I just picked up my new 3D Hologram display at Costco.

japlemon: fallingcow: AnubisMan: alienchickenpie: My TV is one meter thick.

36" Sony Wega?

Hahaha, I had a 36" Sony Wega (so I'm getting a kick...).

Gave it away on Craigslist when we got the new one (42" LCD). Didn't figure anyone would actually pay money for that big, heavy, non-HD sonofabiatch.

It was awesome for a CRT, but it was still a CRT. 350lb of glorious SD picture.

Hear, hear...but it was only (ONLY) 268 pounds, but it easily felt like 350 cuz it was awkward as all hell

Great friggin' picture, though. Was yours HD??? Mine was and the HD picture was better than my friends' DLPs and LCDs at the time because those TVs just don't get those nice blacks. The problem was once the picture was shrunk down vertically it was like a 28-30" widescreen, which is pretty damn tiny

I got some dude to pay 200 for it, though. Says he doesn't "trust" thin, flat panels yet because they seem too "chincy" (sp?) but he wanted a way to hook up a Blu Ray player he got for Christmas from his kids and he just needed something with HDMI

he also had a pristine mid 70's Lincoln in the driveway...probably doesn't "trust" those cheap uni-body cars, either

/damn right I stayed off his lawn

I had the non HD version, just Standard def, but great freakin picture. Unfortunatly after this 3rd move in three years I said F it. Got $200 for it on Craigslist as well + TV stand. The kid I sold it to comes over in a GMC Jimmy, it was almost impossible to fit it in. I will have fond memories of that boat anchor, but the 50" 1080p plasma keeps me company with deep blacks and the nice winter living room heater.

Cytokine Storm: The_Fuzz: Mine is only 3/4" thick. Of course, it's a projector screen. But it's 96" diagonal, which makes it full of awesomeness.

I went with some DW Laminate for my projector screen, but I still have to get the trim put on. I like the quality, but one giant sheet of laminate (110" diagonal) mounted on a pegboard backing is a pain to work on in my apartment. Wish I had done a simple screen stretched over a frame.

What'd you go with?

I went to Home Depot, picked out a nice sheet of 4x8x3/4 particle board with the white melamine coating (just like ikea furniture) for $24. I had them cut a bit (can't remember how much) off the 8 foot side to get the 16x9 aspect ratio. I then took 1x3 board, made a border and painted it flat black. I used a french cleat (made from closet railing) to hang it on the wall. Total cost was about $50. The picture is really good. Not quite as good as a $500 screen, there are a few hotspots I can notice, but only because I look for them. Sorry, no pics with the lights on, to see what is going on. Oh, and I have since installed a power socket above the projector, and got rid of the hideous couches.





/megman rocks

DslainteC: Wait, so I can now brag about having something that's 1" thick? Woohoo! I'm finally going to be desirable.

I believe the correct line is "Hey baby, why don't you come back to my place and I'll show you how impressive 1 inch can be."

What's the magic size for watching Hi-Def porn? I imagine at some point, the screen shows too much detail, at it quickly goes from "hot" to "ewwwwwww, look at all those pimples"!!!

I have a flat screen tv that I now call the fuse destroyer. It incinerates them on contact.

@ mitEj:
I was referring to the Samsung LED (sidelit) LCD tvs that are monster in price right now. I understand the difference to OLED but it seems that the company that makes them (Sony?) can't get a thirdworld nation to manufacture them cheap enough yet.

@Khanmots:
I have a Samsung with the matte finish and it works great in my brightly lit living room. I like a bunch of natural light. With the 650 super reflective screens, all you will see in the dark areas of the picture is a reflection of you (if straight on) or the table lamp beside the sitting position or even the brightly lit wall. You can always increase the backlight to help with the reflection, but that will still not help with dark scenes. At normal viewing distances I have not had any issue with a fuzzy or less sharp picture.

I'm just glad that the article decided to give these sets their proper name, unlike many of the posters here... Flat PANEL, not Flat SCREEN. Tube televisions can have flat screens, but they are not flat panels.
/peeve
//a pet one

The_Fuzz: I went to Home Depot, picked out a nice sheet of 4x8x3/4 particle board with the white melamine coating (just like ikea furniture) for $24. I had them cut a bit (can't remember how much) off the 8 foot side to get the 16x9 aspect ratio. I then took 1x3 board, made a border and painted it flat black. I used a french cleat (made from closet railing) to hang it on the wall. Total cost was about $50. The picture is really good. Not quite as good as a $500 screen, there are a few hotspots I can notice, but only because I look for them. Sorry, no pics with the lights on, to see what is going on. Oh, and I have since installed a power socket above the projector, and got rid of the hideous couches.

Oh very nice Unfortunately I don't have any good pics of mine (except this one that is blurry as heck), since I want to wait till it's all finished*.

The flat black paint works alright for the trim? I'd be concerned about some reflection or sheen there, but I'm also not very familiar with paints. I still have a lot of work to do, but the plan was to wrap some pine in black velvet, then affix it to the screen/frame either with rare earth magnets or just some contact cement, but paint would certainly be cheaper.

*Been procrastinating. Need to take the screen off the wall, trim off all the excess on top and the sides, reinforce the backing with a simple wood frame, and then apply the trim and rehang. Since it's just an apartment it's a pain to work with since I don't have much room to spread out, and I've been lazy.

Anyways, awesome pics. Really should get this done so I can take some *good* pictures for showing off.

I have a 25 inch RCA CRT dinosaur that was made in 1984. I paid $50 for it about 10 years ago. It just won't die.

/from the days when electronics were made in Japan

japlemon: Great friggin' picture, though. Was yours HD??? Mine was and the HD picture was better than my friends' DLPs and LCDs at the time because those TVs just don't get those nice blacks. The problem was once the picture was shrunk down vertically it was like a 28-30" widescreen, which is pretty damn tiny

Not HD, but it had a DVD mode where it could fire all its little ray guns (pew pew!) in a 16:9 area to give effectively full DVD resolution to movies (as opposed to most CRTs, which waste scan lines on the black bars at the top and bottom)

You could buy an HD addon, but I think it was just a tuner and the picture would still be SD. Didn't know they had full-HD models.

Cytokine Storm:
I considered the velvet wrap as well, but figured I'd give the paint a try first, since it was cheap and easy, and I could always wrap it afterwards if needed. I think it works really well, and haven't given a second thought to wrapping. Just get nice flat black paint, a small tin is plenty.

dead_dangler: What's the magic size for watching Hi-Def porn? I imagine at some point, the screen shows too much detail, at it quickly goes from "hot" to "ewwwwwww, look at all those pimples"!!!

That really depends on the resolution of the camera, subsequent lack of retouching and the video compression/resolution more than the screen. Your laptop screen is big enough to display all of the imperfections of human skin perfectly well. The blurry videos you download just simply don't contain the information.

I imagine with a lot of porn stars, once you see the onsetting wrinkles, the scar where the implants went in and the obvious skin damage due to tanning so goddamn much -- which I will never understand, I happen to think pale skin is lovely -- it'll quickly change from hot fantasy to watching your parents fark.

Clent: *Yawn*

Let me know when I can roll a TV screen on like wallpaper.

It's called a projector.The_Fuzz: Cytokine Storm: The_Fuzz: Mine is only 3/4" thick. Of course, it's a projector screen. But it's 96" diagonal, which makes it full of awesomeness.

I went with some DW Laminate for my projector screen, but I still have to get the trim put on. I like the quality, but one giant sheet of laminate (110" diagonal) mounted on a pegboard backing is a pain to work on in my apartment. Wish I had done a simple screen stretched over a frame.

What'd you go with?

I went to Home Depot, picked out a nice sheet of 4x8x3/4 particle board with the white melamine coating (just like ikea furniture) for $24. I had them cut a bit (can't remember how much) off the 8 foot side to get the 16x9 aspect ratio. I then took 1x3 board, made a border and painted it flat black. I used a french cleat (made from closet railing) to hang it on the wall. Total cost was about $50. The picture is really good. Not quite as good as a $500 screen, there are a few hotspots I can notice, but only because I look for them. Sorry, no pics with the lights on, to see what is going on. Oh, and I have since installed a power socket above the projector, and got rid of the hideous couches.

/megman rocks

But...but etching! (new window)

These aren't really "LED" TV's per se. They use an LED for the backlighting but still display the image using an LCD.

Actual LED (be they organic material or not) TV's will be a huge jump up. The lack of a backlight will solve the "burn in" problem, use significantly less power and have a wider dynamic range.

Cool, that give me more space for storable food, guns and ammunition.

IlGreven:

But...but etching! (new window)

It's a DLP projector. As far as I am aware, they don't have image retention issues. I haven't noticed any, and believe me, I probably would have by this point!

Another reason I got a projector over Plasma, btw. No worries about burn-in!

FTFA: Lee Richman installs high-end home theater systems that can cost as much as $170,000.

Wow. That's only a little more than twice what I paid for my home theater system.

My Samsung 52" Series 8 is 1.9" deep.That is as thick as a nice picture frame.

The_Fuzz: It's a DLP projector. As far as I am aware, they don't have image retention issues. I haven't noticed any, and believe me, I probably would have by this point!

Another reason I got a projector over Plasma, btw. No worries about burn-in!

I'm running the Planar PD7150, which one do you have? Got it last year and so far only racked up about 600 hours in use. Bulb states it's approx. 3000 on eco, but I think I'm noticing it's a little dimmer than it used to be. Might be time to try cashing in on those warranty bulb replacements.

Holy Crap! You didn't cheap out. I got the Optoma HD70 for $1000 almost 3 years ago. Still on the original bulb, I think I have around 2000 hours, that's watching almost every day, it is really my only TV. I should probably start looking for a new bulb, but it hasn't seamed to have dimmed to much.

The_Fuzz: Holy Crap! You didn't cheap out. I got the Optoma HD70 for $1000 almost 3 years ago. Still on the original bulb, I think I have around 2000 hours, that's watching almost every day, it is really my only TV. I should probably start looking for a new bulb, but it hasn't seamed to have dimmed to much.

I got real lucky and grabbed it on Woot for $599, it was a deal I couldn't pass up at that price. They ended up upgrading some models to the 7150 and I caught another break...made me a lifelong wooter after that! I haven't seen another deal like it yet.

Anyways, was nice chattin projectors - helped pass the work day a little faster. I'll look into the black paint option instead of velvet, definitely cheaper and from your pics looks damn nice.

The_Fuzz: Holy Crap! You didn't cheap out. I got the Optoma HD70 for $1000 almost 3 years ago. Still on the original bulb, I think I have around 2000 hours, that's watching almost every day, it is really my only TV. I should probably start looking for a new bulb, but it hasn't seamed to have dimmed to much.

It's difficult to tell as you go. You'll notice a huge change after installing the new bulb, though. I used to handle these at a movie theater so I could compare them from screen to screen. By itself, it's too hard to tell, though that really means you don't have a problem... it's just not optimal. We had advertisers depend on them so we had to be really concerned with the picture quality. If it was for my home theater, I'd probably run them a lot longer. It's all about what you perceive.

/jealous

OLEDs produce a true white as well. That will most likely make them easier to calibrate. Right now the only issues other than prohibitive costs are only about a 5 year life and the test sets have a tendency to drift in color and tint. I'm sure it won't be too long before they figure that out.



archichris: ...

The only problem I can foresee is that we own historic homes and we always wind up mounting the TV above the mantle....which is in front of a 24" thick brick chimney. But hey, I like challenges.



I've never understood the reasoning behind that. Televisions need to be at eye level, not up on a f@cking mantle where you have to look up at it.

Dumb.

Tsar_Bomba1: I've never understood the reasoning behind that. Televisions need to be at eye level, not up on a f@cking mantle where you have to look up at it.

Dumb.

Agreed. My parents have done that with their gigantic LCD, and it sucks balls. It's in a large room, but the angle is still uncomfortable.

Cytokine Storm: The_Fuzz: Holy Crap! You didn't cheap out. I got the Optoma HD70 for $1000 almost 3 years ago. Still on the original bulb, I think I have around 2000 hours, that's watching almost every day, it is really my only TV. I should probably start looking for a new bulb, but it hasn't seamed to have dimmed to much.

I got real lucky and grabbed it on Woot for $599, it was a deal I couldn't pass up at that price. They ended up upgrading some models to the 7150 and I caught another break...made me a lifelong wooter after that! I haven't seen another deal like it yet.

Anyways, was nice chattin projectors - helped pass the work day a little faster. I'll look into the black paint option instead of velvet, definitely cheaper and from your pics looks damn nice.

I wouldn't pass up that deal either, nice score. Whatever you decide on for the border, I'm sure it will look good. And ditto on passin' the work day!

The_Fuzz:
Anyways, was nice chattin projectors - helped pass the work day a little faster. I'll look into the black paint option instead of velvet, definitely cheaper and from your pics looks damn nice.

I wouldn't pass up that deal either, nice score. Whatever you decide on for the border, I'm sure it will look good. And ditto on passin' the work day!



Jeez, get a room already...

The_Fuzz: I went to Home Depot, picked out a nice sheet of 4x8x3/4 particle board with the white melamine coating

Go to Lowes or Home depot, and get a can of Behr's 'SilverScreen'. 770-E2 is the code number.

Even better than plain white.

my tv isn't 1 inch thick, nor is it 3 or 4 inches thick. but my dick is farking huge so i got that going for me.

i don't own a TV.

/not including my 46" Samsung 120mHZ LCD, which can play torrented bluray movies off a USB thumb drive.

Milkbeer: When is laservue going commercial?

According to the Mitsubishi website, the Model L65-A90 is out right now.

I wonder how my LaserDiscs will look on a LaserVUE television...

I don't own a TV or a computer monitor. I'm typing blind right now.

BlorfMaster: I got one of these bad boys hulking in my living room, and I plan to keep on using it till it dies.

You don't watch tv.

Tsar_Bomba1: I've never understood the reasoning behind that. Televisions need to be at eye level, not up on a f@cking mantle where you have to look up at it.

I have my 37" wall-mounted above the fireplace in my living room. (Though there is no mantle- it's one of those flush-mounted 70's style gas jobbydos.)

I find the slight angle quite comfortable to watch for extended periods of time. Because my chair reclines. I'm looking straight ahead at a screen tilted forward on the wall. It's no problem for anyone sitting on the couch along the opposite wall, either.

You sit well below the screen in the theater, too, but I've never heard anyone biatch about the setup there.

Lamune_Baba: Tsar_Bomba1: I've never understood the reasoning behind that. Televisions need to be at eye level, not up on a f@cking mantle where you have to look up at it.

I have my 37" wall-mounted above the fireplace in my living room. (Though there is no mantle- it's one of those flush-mounted 70's style gas jobbydos.)

I find the slight angle quite comfortable to watch for extended periods of time. Because my chair reclines. I'm looking straight ahead at a screen tilted forward on the wall. It's no problem for anyone sitting on the couch along the opposite wall, either.

You sit well below the screen in the theater, too, but I've never heard anyone biatch about the setup there.

If you sit in the front row... The best seats are dead center, thats why those ones fill up first.

StRalphTheLiar: "Hey baby, why don't you come back to my place and I'll show you how impressive 1 inch can be."



/for some reason, I read your post in Zap Brannigan's voice

This sucks. All stores have now are flatscreens. 4 years ago when I went to college, I bought a 19" for $100. Now $100 gets me this:

Inch-thick TV sets debut, hoping to replace 3"-4" thick versions. If your house is that cramped for space, perhaps moving is the more economical choice
=====================================

THIS.

If 3-4 inch tvs aren't small enough for you, you need mental help.

I can understand wanting to get rid of that big-screen CRT that's about 3 feet in diameter, but seriously, why.

It's like $2000 extra so you can go from thin to really really thin. It's stupid.

stickintehmud: This sucks. All stores have now are flatscreens. 4 years ago when I went to college, I bought a 19" for $100. Now $100 gets me this:

I'd say it'd be worth it to double your budget, or hit up craigslist. Or keep it as is and let everyone who enters your place to watch their kids around you very carefully.

The_Fuzz: Cytokine Storm: The_Fuzz: Mine is only 3/4" thick. Of course, it's a projector screen. But it's 96" diagonal, which makes it full of awesomeness.

I went with some DW Laminate for my projector screen, but I still have to get the trim put on. I like the quality, but one giant sheet of laminate (110" diagonal) mounted on a pegboard backing is a pain to work on in my apartment. Wish I had done a simple screen stretched over a frame.

What'd you go with?

I went to Home Depot, picked out a nice sheet of 4x8x3/4 particle board with the white melamine coating (just like ikea furniture) for $24. I had them cut a bit (can't remember how much) off the 8 foot side to get the 16x9 aspect ratio. I then took 1x3 board, made a border and painted it flat black. I used a french cleat (made from closet railing) to hang it on the wall. Total cost was about $50. The picture is really good. Not quite as good as a $500 screen, there are a few hotspots I can notice, but only because I look for them. Sorry, no pics with the lights on, to see what is going on. Oh, and I have since installed a power socket above the projector, and got rid of the hideous couches.


/megman rocks

nice set up

I too would love to get an OLED, but unfortunately, everything I have read says that it is going to be 8-10 years before they get anywhere near the size that I would want.

still waiting for SED tv, but it will probably be a long wait

I'm holding out for this bad boy:

Dammit. Imagine a pip boy where that blank below my comment is.

IronTom: still waiting for SED tv, but it will probably be a long wait

I'm with you, but for now, I bought the best price/size/picture quality TV I could afford, and got great energy consumption to boot: a Samsung LED DLP.

No lamps to buy, great picture quality, and it's 3D ready. Sure it's about 16 inches deep, but so what. It's 60 inches of great TV for a great price, and I don't have any intention on hanging a TV from the wall anytime soon.

But I've been waiting for SED forever and a day and it seems they will never come out or be replaced by something better. I wonder what the hold up is....

imgod2u: These aren't really "LED" TV's per se. They use an LED for the backlighting but still display the image using an LCD.

Actual LED (be they organic material or not) TV's will be a huge jump up. The lack of a backlight will solve the "burn in" problem, use significantly less power and have a wider dynamic range.

Is that what the screen at Yankee Stadium is?
HD LED Billboard TV?

(Thank you Mr Yankovick.)

A home version would be nice also.

Tsar_Bomba1: OLEDs produce a true white as well. That will most likely make them easier to calibrate. Right now the only issues other than prohibitive costs are only about a 5 year life and the test sets have a tendency to drift in color and tint. I'm sure it won't be too long before they figure that out.



archichris: ...

The only problem I can foresee is that we own historic homes and we always wind up mounting the TV above the mantle....which is in front of a 24" thick brick chimney. But hey, I like challenges.



I've never understood the reasoning behind that. Televisions need to be at eye level, not up on a f@cking mantle where you have to look up at it.

Dumb.

As seen in the 1952 motion picture "Red Planet Mars".
I swear, it's an HTG HDTV over the fireplace! In 1952!!!

jake3988: Inch-thick TV sets debut, hoping to replace 3"-4" thick versions. If your house is that cramped for space, perhaps moving is the more economical choice
=====================================

THIS.

If 3-4 inch tvs aren't small enough for you, you need mental help.

I can understand wanting to get rid of that big-screen CRT that's about 3 feet in diameter, but seriously, why.

It's like $2000 extra so you can go from thin to really really thin. It's stupid.

The fun part is, for the 2k extra you could easily get a high end HD projector that project a really thin image. You can actually use the wall for other things and just mount a motorized screen up in the ceiling. Of course the price for a 144 inch projector screen is a biatch and a half, but it is damn nice to watch sports on or play HD video games.

/needed a crowbar to get the kids off the couch post install

I work in an electronics department, big kick, etc.

Plasma is the most economical and has the best contrast ratio for the money. The problem with burn-in is also so minimal now that adult owners won't see a difference. LCD is brighter and will look good in a sunshiny room, (I presume curtains are too much for the average consumer,) but beyond 46" across, it's a thousand-dollar difference for roughly the same features.

Also, if you're buying a TV for your kid, who is under 5? Get the damn Disney Princess or Lightning McQueen CRT and STFU. Kids can break an LCD pixel with a finger and plasmas are one baseball from oblivion. A library card is a better pick than any modern TV technology.

LED is very nice, but for the same amount of money you could get a just-above-beater car and still have something left over for beer. I'd buy one for my grandmother if I had the money (for her Xbox & PS3 habit,) but unless you have someone you really love who really, really gives a shiat...don't bother. Wait 5 years and LEDs will have replaced LCDs.

And Blu-ray is a nice technology, but if you're over 80 and I could use your glasses to kill ants with, you don't need it. A 1080p upconvert DVD player or even a plain one will suit nicely. Everyone who expects to live long enough for Blu-ray discs to come down in price, Blu-ray players are fine and will do a great job of upconverting your standard DVD discs -but again, you old people who think $70 is a lot? Don't get Blu-ray. I'll just have to deal with your whining again when the 'Dancing With the Stars' box set costs more than your utility bill.

Also, it is not the electronics associate's job to babysit your screen-poking, obscenity-howling shriek-prone children, no matter what kid-friendly film the management has decided best shows off the Blu-ray player. If your child is quiet and doesn't raise Cain where we have to work, I won't object, but one more Satan-spawn up in the place and I swear to God I will not prevent my coworkers from putting on 'Sin City' and cranking the volume to 'brain-rape' so that you come get your kid from all the way over in Dishwashers or whatever the hell people buy when they're failing as parents.

Also, if 'Sin City' is on in an electronics store, it's because some douche had an obnoxious kid and we'd rather be yelled at for an inappropriate movie than fired or sued for letting a 70-pound, $2800 TV fall and crush someone's broken condom.

Finally, to the woman whose little girl and boy asked permission to sit and watch 'Kung Fu Panda' while their Mom picked out a vacuum cleaner, and who then asked me questions about how TVs work, and who finished up by telling said Mother that I knew how to make a TV work and could help her...thank you for buying that universal remote, I appreciate the tip and the TV you liked is cheaper at the competition but we'll match it anyway. And your children are welcome there any time.

Clent: *Yawn*

Let me know when I can roll a TV screen on like wallpaper.

OLED technology will get us there eventually.
In fact, probably sooner than you might imagine.