letrole: Atheism is a Religion.

Religion is a sport.
War is a hobby.
Plastic is a philosophy.
Abrasion is an art form.
Mathematics is a perversion.

Hey - I can do this all day long! :D

So my city having a giant cross on public land is ok but people privately having a billboard like this is not?


This is complete bullshiat.

I am really sick of these intolerant people who believe if your not chritstian you have no right to be an American.

jso2897: letrole: Plastic is a philosophy.


I agree with the rest, but this one's a bit of a stretch.

aselene: This kind of hate speech wouldn't be tolerated if the roles were reversed. The ACLU would already be suing to have it covered over with the Muslim crescent. It just goes to show the double standard between atheist speech and religious speech.

Bullsh*t, you douche.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/159/348533695_32cdf50adc.jpg?v=0

The old "You're going to hell" boogeyman billboard. These are ALL OVER here in Florida. The one thing atheist billboards don't do is lie and tell you you're going to some made up place after death.

vertiaset: One of my main problems with atheists is that all too often in abandoning their faith they also abandon any sense of morality. Many, certainly not all, become moral relativists or, even worse, amoral.

I'm sure you'll be able to cite figures backing that up. After, if atheists are amoral, their crime and imprisonment rates should be substantially higher than those of men and women of faith, right?

Ooopth.

After all, if man is the measure of all things and there is no right or wrong, just "things people do", then there is no evil and, conversely, no good.

Your dog's an atheist. How can you trust him not to eat your entire family the minute your back's turned?

Gee, there must be some other basis for morality besides religion.

When you have something like this here, people don't want to come and patronize us anymore," said Theodore Hamilton

so the problem isnt with the sign, it's with the intolerance, prejudice and pettymindedness of other christians

aselene: This kind of hate speech wouldn't be tolerated if the roles were reversed. The ACLU would already be suing to have it covered over with the Muslim crescent. It just goes to show the double standard between atheist speech and religious speech.

Bullsh*t, you douche.



The old "You're going to hell" boogeyman billboard. These are ALL OVER here in Florida. The one thing atheist billboards don't do is lie and tell you you're going to some made up place after death.

Now with working html goodness and going to hell badness

aselene: This kind of hate speech wouldn't be tolerated if the roles were reversed. The ACLU would already be suing to have it covered over with the Muslim crescent. It just goes to show the double standard between atheist speech and religious speech.

Damn right. Why, if I had a nickel for every Chinaman who's stolen my apricots, Shia LeBouf would be president of Guam!

m2313: vertiaset: Many, certainly not all, become moral relativists or, even worse, amoral.

Most of the nihilists are in a fundamentalist church. You can tell when you hear phrases like "There's nothing in this world for me but Jesus's love", "A world without god is meaningless", and "I look forward to the new world above in Heaven".

Well that would be nihilistic if they stopped believeing in God.

Ahh, America...Land of the Free, Home of the "Believe in what I believe in or else I'll kick your ass and sue the shiat out of you for challenging me and making me think differently."

DarkLancelot:
Oh no you didn't! As a atheist I just follow the Golden Rule. I treat others as I'd like to be treated. Since I'm not a masochist or sociopath I tend to be good following this ideal.

Then why did you do that to me last night?

W. T. Fark: jso2897: letrole: Plastic is a philosophy.


I agree with the rest, but this one's a bit of a stretch.

That was the only one that's actually true, you fool!!

letrole: letrole: Atheism is a Religion.
Uncle Tractor: Letrole is letrole.

My surname is Le Trôle.

Deja vu. It is almost like I've seen this conversation about 30 times before.

Paid with government funds on public property.

And to ward off that response; No one would like it. And I most certainly did not!

mikelfritz: DarkLancelot:
Oh no you didn't! As a atheist I just follow the Golden Rule. I treat others as I'd like to be treated. Since I'm not a masochist or sociopath I tend to be good following this ideal.

Then why did you do that to me last night?

Your happy face button gave implied consent. I thought everyone who wore one of those knew that.

mikelfritz: DarkLancelot:
Oh no you didn't! As a atheist I just follow the Golden Rule. I treat others as I'd like to be treated. Since I'm not a masochist or sociopath I tend to be good following this ideal.

Then why did you do that to me last night?

You did ask him to.

vertiaset:
Durrr ... durrr ...

Tsk, now you're just repeating yourself.

We had one of those signs in KC. Seeing it made me happy, though I was a little disappointed to see their website was a little empty.

Man On Pink Corner: vertiaset:

Your dog's an atheist. How can you trust him not to eat your entire family the minute your back's turned?

Gee, there must be some other basis for morality besides religion.

So we smack everyone who doesn't behave with a rolled up newspaper....that could work.

genner: Well that would be nihilistic if they stopped believeing in God.

That's the thing though, they're more likely to be amoral than the atheists (default and ex-religious) I know. Especially if they think they will get a second chance.

Not that there's not amoral atheists, I'm just sayin'.

vertiaset: I personally like this billboard. It is less a advertisement for atheism than an appeal to atheists to adhere to a moral system. I think this is a good idea.

One of my main problems with atheists is that all too often in abandoning their faith they also abandon any sense of morality. Many, certainly not all, become moral relativists or, even worse, amoral. After all, if man is the measure of all things and there is no right or wrong, just "things people do", then there is no evil and, conversely, no good.

What a strange ... and dangerous ... world view.

0/10

safety-math: I think religious billboards are silly in general. An atheism one, maybe even more so, because some god-fearing motorist isn't going to see it and suddenly have a revelation..."Wait! You don't have to believe in God to be a good person?!" Realizing that, when one has been brought up Christian, takes a lot more effort. In most cases, anyways.


the truly god-fearing is not the target audience.


most religious people are not really all the god-fearing. Talk with them for ten minutes and you'll get a conflicting soup of various beliefs they hold.

This christian group's idiotic behavior fills me with such anti-christian rage that it's hard to form a coherent thought.

Believe what you like. Not everyone on the planet has to agree with you. Why is this so hard for some people to accept?

ZipSplat: bushbot111: Farkers are so confused....they hate religion but they love black people no matter what. What are they to do? This thread is full of torn emotions. I love it

You must be new...

Not hardly....try not to cry

m2313:
Most of the nihilists are in a fundamentalist church. You can tell when you hear phrases like "There's nothing in this world for me but Jesus's love", "A world without god is meaningless", and "I look forward to the new world above in Heaven".

Is that nihilism or solipsism, though?

Also, just because I haven't seen him in a while:

m2313: genner: Well that would be nihilistic if they stopped believeing in God.

That's the thing though, they're more likely to be amoral than the atheists (default and ex-religious) I know. Especially if they think they will get a second chance.

Not that there's not amoral atheists, I'm just sayin'.

All world views have idiots that make the whole group look bad.

vertiaset: I personally like this billboard. It is less a advertisement for atheism than an appeal to atheists to adhere to a moral system. I think this is a good idea.

One of my main problems with atheists is that all too often in abandoning their faith they also abandon any sense of morality. Many, certainly not all, become moral relativists or, even worse, amoral. After all, if man is the measure of all things and there is no right or wrong, just "things people do", then there is no evil and, conversely, no good.

What a strange ... and dangerous ... world view.

no more strange than believing that there's a guy sitting up in the clouds (if you've ever flown you should know this is probably not true) pulling all the strings and judging everyone.

that is a harsh generalization you make that atheists are all amoral heathens. i don't classify myself as atheist, but i know people that do and honestly, they tend to harbor more good intent than a lot of the christians i know.

so, yeah like stuff it and whatnot with that bs.

G2V: Business is going downhill because of an unrelated billboard nearby? If only one could beg the favor of some sort of omnipotent being to spare him/her from the unfairness of it all.

That being said, I hate when atheists call themselves "Free thinkers," as an implicit differentiation between themselves and the religious. Yeah, that'll win people over.

Free thought is a reference to the term phrase 'unfettered thought' meaning able to think critically and rationally without fetters or limitations. The belief is that those who believe in an invisible man are limiting themselves and their thoughts to what their invisible man finds acceptable.

/I cackled with glee when my friend Mohammed ate bacon for the first time and then learned it came from swine.
//He said it was one of the most amazing things he had ever eaten
///He now consumes more pork products than I do and he believes honey-baked ham is damn near sacred.
////yes he is muslim

"Militant Atheists?"

So me saying that you shouldn't force YOUR stupid beliefs onto my life is being militant?

You can't argue with the religious stupids, they think already they won the debate before it starts.

Not hardly....try not to cry

2009-03-17 19:29:40

Relatively speaking, you're new here.

Not that registration date or length of lurking matters - even if you'd been among the first hundred Farkers, that initial comment would still fall somewhere between "troll" and "wtf is this person yammering on about?"

My wish is that a hundred years from now, people look at Christianity, Islam, and Judaism in the same manner that we presently look at Greek mythology.

ZipSplat: GODDAMMIT! Why the hell do local news websites have so much goddamn trouble using working video embeds.

Try one of these (or both):

Fox (new window).

Examiner (new window).

IMO that billboard is pretty tame compared with the things I'd put up.

"Life is too short waste in church!"
"You're too old to have imaginary friends."
"Your God will go the way of Wothun."

Maybe something about the FSM as well.

Loukinen said he felt bad about any collateral affect the sign may have had on businesses in the area. "I apologize if it's going to affect any business. That's definitely not our intention, and we didn't choose this area specifically. This was one of the billboards available to us."

After seeing the billboard, Team of Life community activist Essie "Big Mama" Reed brought her students out to protest it Wednesday afternoon. "Nothing else matters, but that sign needs to come down. In the name of Jesus," Big Mama chanted, as she led her students in protest.

She said the sign affects something much deeper than business. "I don't know the reason for putting this sign up," said Big Mama. "It says 'Do not believe in God.' How are we going to make it? Look at our schools, everyday. Everyday there's something going on. Kids are out here killing each other, kids are here using drugs. Who else are they going to believe in?"

Fark you, you stupid fat biatch. Maybe if the "community" would do a better job raising their farking kids they wouldn't be such wastes of oxygen.

OK I'm going to leave the lambasting of the people from the article to the rest o' y'all because I don't even need to add anything there to draw attention to the extreme farkwittery that is coming from these people.

But in light of the article, I think this billboard is well placed. Why? Because this community is so vociferously anti-atheist, that if I were an atheist living around them, I'd be terrified. At least this way, there is some sort of outreach for these people. A little idealistic, but I think it works.

letrole: My surname is Le Trôle.

That surname doesn't exist. But, my day is always brightened by your thinly veiled comments.

James F. Campbell: My wish is that a hundred years from now, people look at Christianity, Islam, and Judaism in the same manner that we presently look at Greek mythology.

If you don't believe in a imortal soul why do you care about what happens 100 years from now?

letrole: Atheism is a Religion.

My parrot is so religious.

"Being a good person doesn't require God."

Geez at three years old I must have been a little Buddha or something.

James F. Campbell: My wish is that a hundred few years from now, people look at Christianity, Islam, and Judaism in the same manner that we presently look at Greek mythology.

FTFY

If you don't believe in a imortal soul why do you care about what happens 100 years from now?

Why is belief in an immortal soul related, at all, to concern about the future of humanity?

genner: James F. Campbell: My wish is that a hundred years from now, people look at Christianity, Islam, and Judaism in the same manner that we presently look at Greek mythology.

If you don't believe in a imortal soul why do you care about what happens 100 years from now?

Why not?

genner: If you don't believe in a imortal soul why do you care about what happens 100 years from now?

Just because I don't believe in a sky fairy doesn't mean I don't care about the futures of my country, of the planet, of the species, and of my children, you dumb piece of shiat.

James F. Campbell: My wish is that a hundred years from now, people look at Christianity, Islam, and Judaism in the same manner that we presently look at Greek mythology.

Yeah, as if the Big 3 leave that much room for debauchery :/

PlatinumDragon: If you don't believe in a imortal soul why do you care about what happens 100 years from now?

Why is belief in an immortal soul related, at all, to concern about the future of humanity?

Simple you'll be dead in a 100 years. With no soul no continue and no god to reward you why do you care?

does this mean the religious billboards outside of porn stores taken down?

Scifientologist: ggecko: "I don't know the reason for putting this sign up," said Big Mama. "It says 'Do not believe in God.' How are we going to make it? Look at our schools, everyday. Everyday there's something going on. Kids are out here killing each other, kids are here using drugs. Who else are they going to believe in?"




Reason?

genner: PlatinumDragon: If you don't believe in a imortal soul why do you care about what happens 100 years from now?

Why is belief in an immortal soul related, at all, to concern about the future of humanity?

Simple you'll be dead in a 100 years. With no soul no continue and no god to reward you why do you care?


unless you believe in reincarnation, by your logic, you shouldn't care either.

genner: PlatinumDragon: If you don't believe in a imortal soul why do you care about what happens 100 years from now?

Why is belief in an immortal soul related, at all, to concern about the future of humanity?

Simple you'll be dead in a 100 years. With no soul no continue and no god to reward you why do you care?

Because I'm a human, which is a pack animal. I want my pack to thrive as they will include my progeny. Why do I need an immortal soul to hope for continual human progress?

vertiaset: I agree with the author of the billboard atheists SHOULD adopt an ethical system to replace the one they have rejected when they rejected faith.

Because an overwhelming problem amongst atheists is lacking a view of ethics and morality?

I would insist theists SHOULD adopt an ethical system to replace the one they have rejected when they accepted faith. No real review of the good or evil of a deity, merely the word of said deity accepted. Further problems arise because the deity is capable of changing what is good or evil, therefore no objective morality exists, merely a subjective morality removed a step beyond humans. If, of course, the deity is incapable of changing what is good or evil, I would suggest we revere whatever codified such rules which a supposed omnipotent being is incapable of changing.

Dimplehumper: agoratrader: Hindmost: Why would an atheist pay money for an ad? I sure as fark wouldn't bother.


To generate traffic to its site and cause and hopefully recover the costs through donations. Come on man, this is America - get with the program.

Hold on, I think you've just hit on a nice little business plan...

1) Set up website for rational arguments on atheism. Secure sponsorship of Christian paraphenalia companies and associated prayer scams.
2) Install billboard with mildly inflammatory statement re: God
3) Traffic to website and sponsors is driven by the religious, who come to condemn the heretics and vent their displeasure, and end up buying products representing the visitors POV
4) Profit

Alternately, set up the first website as a red herring. The big bucks could come from a second anti-billboard reactionary site. Ooh, the astroturfing potential...

Your newsletter sir...i'd like to subscribe, and invest a substantial sum of money, $10,000,000 in fact, but in order to secure my investment I will need a small advance of $50,000 to prove you are serious about proceeding. These moneys will be used to handle the paperwork, setting up office and whorehouse space for distribution, printing of stock certificates and press releases...etc etc.