RemyDuron: I seriously, seriously doubt it. If it becomes common, it would not have to be made mandatory, in a generation it will be accepted.

I know I'd get one, along with a cell phone implant in the head. I'd really wish the implanted cellphone got made mandatory, because I HATE not being able to get ahold of people.


// does anyone think the 'internet' was implemented at the cost of over a trillion$ for the benefit of the 'people'???
the infrastructure is almost complete, chip readers & transmitters can be made for pennies.
A generation?
it takes about 3 days with no food to break the will of most people..

the chipping can be implemented in about 6 months, worldwide, another 6 months to flush out and kill off dissidents.
Family members and spouses will turn in those who won't comply, since giving food or shelter to non chipped persons is a capital offense [off wit you head!]

Linux_Yes: it won't happen in the Land of the Free. because we are....Free. i guess, anyways.

er...i think so.

that's what they said on TV anyway.

// will the chip readers use Linux or microsoft?
China's govt uses Linux...

Alacritous: ZAZ: Today's businesses get employees to take drug tests.

The thing I don't get is the employers running credit checks on employees. What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Not in California. An potential employer must ask permission to run a credit check and your refusal is not a legal reason to deny employment. I NEVER sign the document that gives permission.

JSTACAT: RemyDuron: I seriously, seriously doubt it. If it becomes common, it would not have to be made mandatory, in a generation it will be accepted.

I know I'd get one, along with a cell phone implant in the head. I'd really wish the implanted cellphone got made mandatory, because I HATE not being able to get ahold of people.


// does anyone think the 'internet' was implemented at the cost of over a trillion$ for the benefit of the 'people'???
the infrastructure is almost complete, chip readers & transmitters can be made for pennies.
A generation?
it takes about 3 days with no food to break the will of most people..

the chipping can be implemented in about 6 months, worldwide, another 6 months to flush out and kill off dissidents.
Family members and spouses will turn in those who won't comply, since giving food or shelter to non chipped persons is a capital offense [off wit you head!]

I read that as "chip readers & transmitters can be made for penises."

TopoGigo:

I read that as "chip readers & transmitters can be made for penises.""


// well, if thats chipped, theres a Bobbit for that.
digging one out of bone or connective tissue without damaging it is unlikely.
Do not try this @ home!
Cyanide tooth implants..FTW

The next true tyranny will be a corporate one.

The Mark of the beast!
sixsixsix
Naughty jungle of love!

Sgt Otter: Approves.

/"Good news, everyone! I've invented a device that when you read this post, you will hear it in your head in the sound of my voice!"

damn you to hell

Weaver95: You people are slipping:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

If you're quoting a great song, you farked it up.

OLD news and speculation is OLD.

OLD technology is also OLD.

The day you start putting chips in people is the day I hack and mod mine. Credit scores? Cool, mines 800 now. Medical history, chronic pain and I need lots of medical chronic. Voting, hey Ill go to the polls, change it out and vote again.

They can't START with requiring chips for employment - that's way too invasive. You have to make it voluntary at first, and you have to use incentives. Shorter lines for shopping. Fewer forms to fill out for taxes, the DMV, and other government necessities. Once chips become more ubiquitous, it will be nearly impossible to obtain a bank account or insurance without one. Employment will be the last thing to REQUIRE a chip, although by that point, as with the bank account and insurance, chipped-persons will be preferred.

/takes off tin-foil hat.

jicon: Weaver95: You people are slipping:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

If you're quoting a great song, you farked it up.

I thought he was quoting that big book with the flimsy pages that all the church people seem to like carrying or waving around.

I think the Trojan horse will be kids. With RFID tags they will know who is at school or not immediately. It will be promoted as a safety issue. Of course, the chips will still be there when they grow up. The rest of the story writes itself.

Helloooooo, EMP generator!

somedoctorguy: I think the Trojan horse will be kids. With RFID tags they will know who is at school or not immediately. It will be promoted as a safety issue. Of course, the chips will still be there when they grow up. The rest of the story writes itself.

Homeschool FTW?

How many read/writes will this chip be capable of withstanding before needing replacement?

erik-k: Helloooooo, EMP generator!

//Thats an excellent thought:
EMP may be ineffective against protein based chips of any kind.
the same way animal life survives solar storms a lot better than metal wires.

what am i thinking?
that new computing systems and hardware are currently in R&D [mil] that are protein based, computing by enzymes and bacterium,
self powered, almost immune to EMP.. the perfect military chip.

why is it called the mark of the beast? [how did St. John know?]
because the technology was first deployed on beasts, certainly the govt realised the sheeple would be next.

Okay, we have "mark of the beast" and "Jennifer Government" covered, so I will go with the other reference that came immediately to mind...

I blame it on the megacorps.

me texan: Friggin unscannables. Apes.. the lot of you.

Blank is beautiful!

The obvious next step in the nanny-state tyranny. After all, won't somebody think of the children?

This is change we can believe in.

/Demolition Man is now 16 years old
//Fiction is becoming reality

OgreMagi: Alacritous: ZAZ: Today's businesses get employees to take drug tests.

The thing I don't get is the employers running credit checks on employees. What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Not in California. An potential employer must ask permission to run a credit check and your refusal is not a legal reason to deny employment. I NEVER sign the document that gives permission.

Wanna bet that some employers just find another reason to not employ you?

JSTACAT: China's govt uses Linux...

Haha Linux is for commies haha!

:p

JSTACAT: EMP may be ineffective against protein based chips of any kind.
the same way animal life survives solar storms a lot better than metal wires.

what am i thinking?
that new computing systems and hardware are currently in R&D [mil] that are protein based, computing by enzymes and bacterium,
self powered, almost immune to EMP.. the perfect military chip.

Tell me more... I love it when you talk dirty, baby.

/no, srsly
//MORE!

I wonder if I'll some day be the "ultra-conservative" who refuses to get his children "implanted".

what no one's said "Mark of the Beat" yet? Where's Bevets?

Not in this life time.

SharkTrager: OgreMagi: Alacritous: ZAZ: Today's businesses get employees to take drug tests.

The thing I don't get is the employers running credit checks on employees. What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Not in California. An potential employer must ask permission to run a credit check and your refusal is not a legal reason to deny employment. I NEVER sign the document that gives permission.

Wanna bet that some employers just find another reason to not employ you?

Hint: in a state with workplace protection laws, you can sue if you think it's for a certain illegal reason even if they tell you something else. And win more often then not.

You know, this technology is not nearly as awesome or as scary as people seem to think it is.

I know of half a dozen ways to screw up RFIDs without even trying - I shudder to think what would happen if I actually wanted to make them not work.

Also, an RFID sends out a signal that is easily detectable and unless they attach that also to an unbreakable encryption algorithm there is no way people are going to be able to use these devices as any sort of identification. Imagine some teenager running around the mall capturing everyone's RFID signals, decoding them, and then encoding a hand held device that transmits on the same frequency. Instantly you could impersonate hundreds, or even thousands, of people.

People who write fear mongering articles like this don't even deserve to be called tinfoil hat wearers - they are just criminally stupid.

damageddude

Seeing that fellow making a joke of RF exposure (and conspiracy theorists) makes me wonder...how easy is it to burn out an RFID tag with exposure to strong RF fields? There have been times when I've been in contact with operating multi-kilowatt HF and VHF transmitters and accidently close to operating highish-power radars (microwaves). In such situations, would the passive power components of such an ID be fried? If so, forget the tinfoil, I've a more permanent solution in mind. Might suck to be forced to pay for replacements, though.

Anaxphone: I blame it on the megacorps.

I'll just build a few fake SINs now, and when the metahumans come, I'll sell them off for tons of nuyen.

Great, so all you'll need to completely steal someone's identity would be a radio antenna and a tape recorder. That sounds like a GREAT idea.

//Seriously, pretty sure even a government could figure out how this idea does the opposite of what it's supposed to do for security.

//Current-generation RFID tags more or less have to be a hard-coded signal, btw, for those unfamiliar with why those of us with some idea of how the tech works are laughing at these paranoia rags. Encrypt it all you want, but a direct copy of the actual signal would still be a perfectly acceptable spoof since the signal doesn't change from use to use. It's basically a complicated barcode.

Employers will start making implants a condition of employment



/hot like they're not

sephjnr: Employers will start making implants a condition of employment



/hot like they're not

Stole my joke... but golf clap nonetheless.

/mickie james FTW
//melina a close second

In the USA? Maybe.

In the civilized world? Hell no.

Seriously, mandatory drug tests? WTF is wrong with you people?

Ultrasonic vibration smooths off micro-circuitry.

The more compact and important the micro-circuit, the more destruction is achieved with ultrasonic shaking. If you're worried about RFID in your skin, purchase an ultrasonic transducer and ultra-vibrate the RFID to dust.

Pxtl: In the USA? Maybe.

In the civilized world? Hell no.

Seriously, mandatory drug tests? WTF is wrong with you people?

I'm ok with mandatory drug tests for, say, airline pilots. I can understand why a bank would want people with access to large sums of money to not do heroin. But I had to take a drug test to do tech support at a crappy early '90s ISP. (Easily the worst job I ever had - I quit after two weeks.)

Revelations Chapter 13 Verses 16-17

13:16 He causes all, the small and the great, the rich and the poor, and the free and the slave, to be given marks on their right hands, or on their foreheads;

13:17 and that no one would be able to buy or to sell, unless he has that mark, the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Alacritous: ZAZ: More specifically, people with bad credit may have more motive to steal.

I have bad credit, but it's a carefully cultivated bad credit. I don't want anyone to give me credit because I don't want to go into debt. and keeping a few black marks on my credit rating keeps the credit card junk mail to a minimum. But I'm not going to steal from my employer.

I haven't gotten any junk mail like that for 2 years. You can go to this site: https://www.optoutprescreen.com/?rf=t to opt out of receiving those offers. It even raises your score a little if you do it.

Lost Thought 00: people will learn real fast that tinkering with genetics almost always results in sterility

Technically, selective breeding is "tinkering with genetics" and horses, cows, dogs, and cats do not appear to be steril (until we cut off their testicles) so I think you're wrong.

I can't remember the exact quote, but it's from one of Steven Pinker's books; I'll paraphrase: "you and your partner could fill the solar system with offspring and not get two with exactly the same genome (except for twins obviously)."

The point is, you seem to think that "tinkering" means that we manually yank out one gene and implant another. That's not necessary at all. All we have to do is be able to cheaply and quickly sequence an egg and a sperm. You sequence hundreds of eggs and millions of sperm, then you discard all those that would produce children that are too short, or too dumb, or have red hair, or whatever you want. With that many potential children to choose from, you can be pretty selective and still find at least one that you like. The one that you pick is still your child - it's a child that you could have conceived naturally.

Gattaca‽ Why bother with RFID?

dustman81: /Demolition Man is now 16 years old
//Fiction is becoming reality

I was wondering how long it was going to be before someone referenced that. I read the headline and said "Demolition Man in three posts."
It took a lot longer than that, but it got done eventually.
So, thanks a lot, you shiat brained, ball breaking, duck farking pain in the ass!

What happens if you have an allergy to one of these implants?