Yub nub, eee chop yub nub;
Ah toe meet toe peechee keene,
G'noop dock fling oh ah.
Yahwah, eee chop yahwah;
Ah toe meet toe peechee keene,
G'noop dock fling oh ah.
Coatee chah tu yub nub;
Coatee chah tu yahwah;
Coatee chah tu glowah;
Allay loo ta nuv.
Glowah, eee chop glowah;
Ya glowah pee chu nee foam,
Ah toot dee awe goon daa.
*Coatee cha tu goo; (Yub nub!)
Coatee cha tu doo; (Yahwah!)
Coatee cha tu too; (Ya chaa!)
Allay loo ta nuv,
Allay loo ta nuv,
Allay loo ta nuv.
Glowah, eee chop glowah.
Ya glowah pee chu nee foam
Ah toot dee awe goon daa.

/That is incredibly gay
//one of my kids liked to be sung this so he could fall asleep.

What say we stop biatchin and give the guy a bit of credit here. He gave us (or helped give us) massive advancements in movie effects and sound, as well as video games.
He gave us:
THX-1138-Interesting in an artsy sci-fi way.
American Graffiti-really good movie.
The original SW trilogy-pretty much changed cinema forever and had a big impact on generations of people, world-wide.
The Indiana Jones movies-which, if you average them all out, still comes out to 'damn good epic movies'
The Star Wars Christmas Special-one of the most unintentionally hilarious bits of film ever.
The Ewok movies-Crap, but fun for kids.
The Ewok/Droids cartoons-ditto.
Labyrinth-For God's sake, he gave us Jennifer Connelly!!!
Howard the Duck-Crap...But semi-entertaining crap.
Captain EO-Robot Michael Jackson!
Willow-Entertaining enough. And probably employed more midgets than anything since the Wizard of Oz.
Tucker-Really good movie.
The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles-so-so, but a noble attempt to get kids interested in learning about history.
The Land Before Time-never saw it, but must've done good, because there have been 7000 sequels since then.
Radioland Murders-no idea about this one.
The new SW trilogy-Entertaining enough, only really looks bad when compared to the original sequel.
The Clone Wars- Pretty good stuff.

SynthLord: FunkOut: Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

I read somewhere (io9?) that it's going to be Jedi-less, which makes me wonder WHAT'S THE DAMN POINT?

I mean, I know there's more to it than Jedi/Sith duels, but the best parts of Star Wars begin when you hear keeshVWUUMmmmmmm ...


The damn point is the Jedi have been DONE TO DEATH. There's a whole universe of stories out there that don't need to involve Jedi in order to be interesting.

I for one would be happy to see them save any Jedi appearance until the first season cliffhanger. Give them back a little mystique.

Mugato: ha-ha-guy: Yes, because furry worms that absorb the Force and Clones with extra vowels in their names are so much better than anything Lucas has written.

Certainly better than flopeared idiots stepping in poo and atrociously awkward love scenes trying to be acted by a guy who can only convey obnoxious teenage angst.

Why not just call it "The Journal of the Whills" & have it tell a different story each episode (plus the occasional 2 parter) from anywhere in the SW universe or timeline?

Think about it. They could make episodes based off of the most popular comics, novels, or referenced events. With the proper voice actors, they could use established characters like Vader, Fett, Jabba, Maul, & Yoda. Cast young Dooku & Qui-Gon and send them off on master/padawan missions. Mark Hamill could be brought in for an episode or two as an older Luke with the New Jedi Order.

And yes, they could even make an episode about the Ice Cream Man of Cloud City.


/just my 2 republic credits

mjbok: There were definitely flaws in the prequels, but they are not the soul crushing, childhood raping disappointment people make them out to be.

This. Saw a lot of Ep II a few weeks ago for the first time since I was old enough to really look at it critically. The only thing that's changed for me was that my brain automatically screams "FAAAAKEEE!" whenever I see CGI that looks less real that what we saw in EP III.

mjbok: The last 30-45 minutes of ROTS is probably as good as it could be.

Also this. Opinions on that part of the series is a good litmus test on whether or not the person you're talking to really gave each movie a chance or just hated them all.

Mugato: ha-ha-guy: Dear Lucas,
Please devote the rest of your life to filming the various Star Wars novels that Timothy Zahn has written. Change nothing. Just hire someone qualified to adapt it over to a screenplay and film that biatch.

Yes, because furry worms that absorb the Force and Clones with extra vowels in their names are so much better than anything Lucas has written.

I agree about the anti-Force worms. Too many story problems -- no one would have noticed these in the *thousands* of years people have used the Force?

However, the original Zahn story had Obi-Wan as the evil jedi clone in question, and Lucas nixed that. Stupid, since it tainted the whole story with the knowledge that Dark Jedi Obi-Wan is what they should be fighting. Evil Obi-Wan is far more logical story-wise -- it explains why Luke would trust him, listen to him and believe him.

The idea of Obi-Wan with black robes, red lightsaber and using force lightning would be interesting.

I must admit I am impressed at how easily Lucas can suck fans back into the franchise after he has screwed it up so badly.

This show won't be good at all.

Free Radical: I must admit I am impressed at how easily Lucas can suck fans back into the franchise after he has screwed it up so badly.

This show won't be good at all.

This. I went and saw Episode II opening weekend. After somehow avoiding falling asleep, I vowed "never again" and have stayed true to my word. I have not seen Episode III (despite it being "good"), the Clone Wars crap, and I will not watch this abomination. George Lucas has not received a dime from me for new Star Wars material since that day in 2002, and he never will again. This is the only way (other than death) the man will ever freaking stop.

Fano: Cornwell: A series set between episodes III and IV could have quite a few things going for it.

The growth of the Rebel Alliance and the first few battles with the Empire.
The rescue of Admiral Ackbar.
Quite a few kick-ass X-wing battles.
The death of Jar-Jar Binks (C'mon, he never reappears at a later point, and his death would be welcomed by quite a few fans).

The only thing that would concern me about filming Jar-Jar's death is that Lucas would redeem him with some sort of heroic sacrifice. I want him to die like Michael Corleone at the end of Godfather III. Slumped over, realizing everything he did was wrong.

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NeedlesslyCanadian: Fano: Cornwell: A series set between episodes III and IV could have quite a few things going for it.

The growth of the Rebel Alliance and the first few battles with the Empire.
The rescue of Admiral Ackbar.
Quite a few kick-ass X-wing battles.
The death of Jar-Jar Binks (C'mon, he never reappears at a later point, and his death would be welcomed by quite a few fans).

The only thing that would concern me about filming Jar-Jar's death is that Lucas would redeem him with some sort of heroic sacrifice. I want him to die like Michael Corleone at the end of Godfather III. Slumped over, realizing everything he did was wrong.

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Phil Moskowitz: The main character Spoo Choons hails from the Minimbi'Wa system and is half wookie half ewok.

See I could ruin the new franchise just as effectively as Lucas himself.

And still have the rest of the summer to drink!

This show won't even be around for 1 parsec.

FunkOut: flaminio: SynthLord: FunkOut: Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

I read somewhere (io9?) that it's going to be Jedi-less, which makes me wonder WHAT'S THE DAMN POINT?

If it's set between III and IV, it's almost have to be Jedi-less, as the only two Jedi left are exiled on Dagobah and Tatooine.

It better be about smugglers, the Hutt mafia, mercenaries, and bounty hunters then.

I actually spoke to Jay Lagaia about the live action show while he was in Orlando for SW Weekends. He's heard that Fett will be in it and that Daniel Logan (who played young Boba in Ep2) is lobbying hard to get the part. He's buddies with Ray Park and has been training with him in martial arts in hoping to land the part.

I'm an admitted SW geek and what I keep hearing is that they are going for "Deadwood" in the SW universe. We MAY see bits and pieces of the iconic characters but mostly it will be about the universe. The Outer Rim, smugglers, bounty hunters and the beginnings of the Galactic Civil War.

I actually think that a good old fashioned "western" in the SW universe with a dash of the civil war could be pretty kick ass if GL doesn't ruin it. As some have said, the Clone Wars series started off a bit rough but has been improving steadily.

And Barry D'Allyve? Maul and Dooku are dead but I have heard that concepts that are similar to yours. More or less "Tales from the SW Galaxy", not something as epic as Battlestar.

I do think a flashback episode with Hamill as Luke could be pretty sweet (a la Nimoy in Star Trek). And Kevin Smith being involved would be a dream - however I'm not sure how the conversational nature of his writing would play out.

At first I wasn't a huge fan of The Phantom Meanace, but then I saw the episode of the Muppet Show that had Luke, the droids and Chewbacca.

Luke was running around backstage with his blaster, kicking in doors yelling "Down with the Empire! Remember Alderaan!"

That's when it hit me- THAT is what Star Wars really was about. Running around with blasters and lightsabers.

Bad dialoge? Cheesy special effects? Plot holes? None of that matters. As a kid, it was running around without a care in the world as to how silly it looked.

Sad I forgot about it.

sarasotarockstar: FunkOut: flaminio: SynthLord: FunkOut: Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

I read somewhere (io9?) that it's going to be Jedi-less, which makes me wonder WHAT'S THE DAMN POINT?

If it's set between III and IV, it's almost have to be Jedi-less, as the only two Jedi left are exiled on Dagobah and Tatooine.

It better be about smugglers, the Hutt mafia, mercenaries, and bounty hunters then.

I actually spoke to Jay Lagaia about the live action show while he was in Orlando for SW Weekends. He's heard that Fett will be in it and that Daniel Logan (who played young Boba in Ep2) is lobbying hard to get the part. He's buddies with Ray Park and has been training with him in martial arts in hoping to land the part.

I'm an admitted SW geek and what I keep hearing is that they are going for "Deadwood" in the SW universe. We MAY see bits and pieces of the iconic characters but mostly it will be about the universe. The Outer Rim, smugglers, bounty hunters and the beginnings of the Galactic Civil War.

I actually think that a good old fashioned "western" in the SW universe with a dash of the civil war could be pretty kick ass if GL doesn't ruin it. As some have said, the Clone Wars series started off a bit rough but has been improving steadily.

And Barry D'Allyve? Maul and Dooku are dead but I have heard that concepts that are similar to yours. More or less "Tales from the SW Galaxy", not something as epic as Battlestar.

I do think a flashback episode with Hamill as Luke could be pretty sweet (a la Nimoy in Star Trek). And Kevin Smith being involved would be a dream - however I'm not sure how the conversational nature of his writing would play out.

Glad to hear this is the likely course the series will take. TOT was awesome partially because of the "lived-in universe" that had been generally lacking in sci-fi treatments before.

I didn't like the Battle of Geonosis what with tactical idiocy of sending hordes of elite Jedi against killbots, in a battle arena no less. I know it was a trap but still.

A minimal Jedi presence would actually be to the advantage of the series.

ParadoxDice: At first I wasn't a huge fan of The Phantom Meanace, but then I saw the episode of the Muppet Show that had Luke, the droids and Chewbacca.

Luke was running around backstage with his blaster, kicking in doors yelling "Down with the Empire! Remember Alderaan!"

That's when it hit me- THAT is what Star Wars really was about. Running around with blasters and lightsabers.

Bad dialoge? Cheesy special effects? Plot holes? None of that matters. As a kid, it was running around without a care in the world as to how silly it looked.

Sad I forgot about it.

THIS.

Best thing about being a Star Wars fan now is if you have kids and they're nuts about the prequels growing up with it and you see them slowly appreciating the original trilogy. Also, you get to play lightsaber battles with them with stuff that makes their mom yell, "Oi! You two! Quit it!"

Aboleth: Best thing about being a Star Wars fan now is if you have kids and they're nuts about the prequels growing up with it and you see them slowly appreciating the original trilogy

The only one my little ones never ask to watch is the original (77) one. The bad romance/dialogue don't bother them. It is interesting watching them wrap their heads around the fact that the hero becomes the enemy because of his choices and greed.

ParadoxDice: At first I wasn't a huge fan of The Phantom Meanace, but then I saw the episode of the Muppet Show that had Luke, the droids and Chewbacca.

Luke was running around backstage with his blaster, kicking in doors yelling "Down with the Empire! Remember Alderaan!"

That's when it hit me- THAT is what Star Wars really was about. Running around with blasters and lightsabers.

Bad dialoge? Cheesy special effects? Plot holes? None of that matters. As a kid, it was running around without a care in the world as to how silly it looked.

Sad I forgot about it.

And THAT is what killed the first 3.
No kid I know walked into Star Wars and thought, "MAN! I hope they have a lot of political situations like voting, Senate arguments and blockades!!"
"Hey! My Palpatine figure comes with VOTING ACTION!!"

This could be epic. The scale of Babylon 5, the grit, humanity and hope in the face of hopelessness of Battlestar, chuck in a bit of Firefly and it could be the best sci-fi TV show in years.

The subjugation of all non-human races, the extermination of the Jedi, the beginnings of the resistance. Jedi forgoing all the noble crap they were taught in favor of survival, becoming mercenaries, bounty-hunters, gunslingers. Rebels.

The final season can pretty much write itself with everything being built up to the Battle of Turkana and the discovery of the Death Star.

Too bad it'll probably be more Bantha crap.

Metaluna Mutant: FunkOut
[Aayla Secura pic]
Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

A shapely kickass female jedi in a leather skirt and bra = my viewing assured.

I'll gladly massage her lekku..

Mugato: ha-ha-guy: Dear Lucas,
Please devote the rest of your life to filming the various Star Wars novels that Timothy Zahn has written. Change nothing. Just hire someone qualified to adapt it over to a screenplay and film that biatch.

Yes, because furry worms that absorb the Force and Clones with extra vowels in their names are so much better than anything Lucas has written.

Grand Admiral Thrawn. A highly intelligent and dangerous enemy respected and feared by all. THAT would be worth watching!

Metaluna Mutant: However, the original Zahn story had Obi-Wan as the evil jedi clone in question, and Lucas nixed that. Stupid, since it tainted the whole story with the knowledge that Dark Jedi Obi-Wan is what they should be fighting. Evil Obi-Wan is far more logical story-wise -- it explains why Luke would trust him, listen to him and believe him.

The idea of Obi-Wan with black robes, red lightsaber and using force lightning would be interesting.

I never heard that. It would be a LOT different than Jorus C'aobath(sp) of Outbound Flight.. but I don't see how even an Obi Wan clone would aid the remnants of the Empire. You can only stretch the original personality so far before suspension of disbelief breaks.

Alphax: Metaluna Mutant: However, the original Zahn story had Obi-Wan as the evil jedi clone in question, and Lucas nixed that. Stupid, since it tainted the whole story with the knowledge that Dark Jedi Obi-Wan is what they should be fighting. Evil Obi-Wan is far more logical story-wise -- it explains why Luke would trust him, listen to him and believe him.

The idea of Obi-Wan with black robes, red lightsaber and using force lightning would be interesting.

I never heard that. It would be a LOT different than Jorus C'aobath(sp) of Outbound Flight.. but I don't see how even an Obi Wan clone would aid the remnants of the Empire. You can only stretch the original personality so far before suspension of disbelief breaks.

It's true. He mentioned as much in an interview in a Star Wars Adventure Journal periodical back in the early 90s. Also, the Noghri were supposed to be a species called the Sith which would explained why Vader was the "Dark Lord of the Sith", but Lucasfilm nixed that as well for reasons which became clear to us later in the decade.

Whoever made the trailer for "The Old Republic" should make this show. Lucas should not be involved at all.

SuburbanCowboy: Whoever made the trailer for "Knights of The Old Republic" should make this show. Lucas should not be involved at all.

FTFM

FREDIOHEAD: The article says it will focus on relationships and emotional landscapes. You Star Wars nerds will have no clue what's going on.

/It was a joke.
//Settle down.

I take it back. I'm not joking.

Cathedralmaster: flaminio: If it's set between III and IV, it's almost have to be Jedi-less, as the only two Jedi left are exiled on Dagobah and Tatooine.

The expanded universe added significantly to the number of Jedi who survived the purge.

[[[snip]]]

So there are plenty of Jedi for them to choose from. And enough leeway for them to create more if they so wanted.

Yeah, I get that, but I have a problem with the EU in this regard: having so many leftover Jedi running around rather destroys the entire premise and ultimate resolution of Episodes IV-VI. What's the point of saying "that boy is our last hope" if there are dozens of other Jedi hiding out somewhere? Why even call the final film Return of the Jedi if the Jedi never really went away?

Damn it, I hate it when these threads happen on the weekend and I miss them!

All I know is that if we're going to have a live action TV show, I *really* want it to be KoTOR with Revan and then later the Exile. Yes, we fans know what happens, but damn, that would be soooooo awesome.

But, I'm sure I'll watch whatever SW show they decide to put on tv... at least for a little while.

I think the TV series should be from the opposite point of view. Make it about the Empire hunting down the last of the Jedi. Take 2-3 episodes to catch/kill each one. Give Vader and the Emperor occasional cameos. Make the hunt for Yoda an overarching plot.

Metaluna Mutant: FunkOut
[Aayla Secura pic]
Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

A shapely kickass female jedi in a leather skirt and bra = my viewing assured.


Mara Jade would be better.

Image too big. Pops

SuperChuck: I think the TV series should be from the opposite point of view. Make it about the Empire hunting down the last of the Jedi. Take 2-3 episodes to catch/kill each one. Give Vader and the Emperor occasional cameos. Make the hunt for Yoda an overarching plot.

This is part of what made TIE Fighter such a fun game.

rukusrazor: Mara Jade would be better.

I'm such a nerd, I have the signed CCG version of this:



/hot like that model.

George Lucas, thoroughly ass raping his legacy since 1997.

It's a shame that everything Lucas has done since Jedi (including the Special Ed Editions) was lightyears behind a couple of videogames.

Zombie Eater: It's a shame that everything Lucas has done since Jedi (including the Special Ed Editions) was lightyears behind a couple of videogames.

How much of a nerd am I that I used to make Bastilla run around naked?

zarberg: How much of a nerd am I that I used to make Bastilla run around naked?

Hell, I'm female and I left my Exile in the dancer's outfit the last time I played through. I never could stand Bastila, though. She's *such* a biatch! And it really pissed me off when I finally played as a male PC and she actually warmed up to him and started flirting... UGH!

QT_3.14159: Hell, I'm female and I left my Exile in the dancer's outfit the last time I played through. I never could stand Bastila, though. She's *such* a biatch! And it really pissed me off when I finally played as a male PC and she actually warmed up to him and started flirting... UGH!

Ok, pretty nerdy. I'm slowly replaying KotOR II just to see the various romantic connections I can make. I'm pretty sure there's a lot more opportunity if you play a male character.

KotOR was enough to make me try and re-start my Star Wars RPG campaign.

sarasotarockstar: FunkOut: flaminio: SynthLord: FunkOut: Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

I read somewhere (io9?) that it's going to be Jedi-less, which makes me wonder WHAT'S THE DAMN POINT?

If it's set between III and IV, it's almost have to be Jedi-less, as the only two Jedi left are exiled on Dagobah and Tatooine.

It better be about smugglers, the Hutt mafia, mercenaries, and bounty hunters then.

I actually spoke to Jay Lagaia about the live action show while he was in Orlando for SW Weekends. He's heard that Fett will be in it and that Daniel Logan (who played young Boba in Ep2) is lobbying hard to get the part. He's buddies with Ray Park and has been training with him in martial arts in hoping to land the part.

I'm an admitted SW geek and what I keep hearing is that they are going for "Deadwood" in the SW universe. We MAY see bits and pieces of the iconic characters but mostly it will be about the universe. The Outer Rim, smugglers, bounty hunters and the beginnings of the Galactic Civil War.

I actually think that a good old fashioned "western" in the SW universe with a dash of the civil war could be pretty kick ass if GL doesn't ruin it. As some have said, the Clone Wars series started off a bit rough but has been improving steadily.

And Barry D'Allyve? Maul and Dooku are dead but I have heard that concepts that are similar to yours. More or less "Tales from the SW Galaxy", not something as epic as Battlestar.

I do think a flashback episode with Hamill as Luke could be pretty sweet (a la Nimoy in Star Trek). And Kevin Smith being involved would be a dream - however I'm not sure how the conversational nature of his writing would play out.

Hey! Somebody finally brought back Firefly!

zarberg: Ok, pretty nerdy. I'm slowly replaying KotOR II just to see the various romantic connections I can make. I'm pretty sure there's a lot more opportunity if you play a male character.

KotOR was enough to make me try and re-start my Star Wars RPG campaign.

I wouldn't say there's more opportunity... just that those plot lines are more finished for the male characters. But there's not much there for either gender honestly. One of the developers at Obsidian can't stand romantic plot lines, so that really shows in their complete lack of development in K2.

KotOR 2's unfinished plot lines made me start writing fan fiction....

/hangs head in shame...

QT_3.14159: I wouldn't say there's more opportunity... just that those plot lines are more finished for the male characters. But there's not much there for either gender honestly. One of the developers at Obsidian can't stand romantic plot lines, so that really shows in their complete lack of development in K2.

KotOR 2's unfinished plot lines made me start writing fan fiction....

/hangs head in shame...

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