Cornwell: you have to start wondering how many locations the Empire had the plans stashed.

to be fair they were kept at a single location but then someone who worked in maintainence nicked a copy and put it up as a torrent for his empire buddys to check out their new 'l33t' weapon.

This 'torrent' problem eventually leads to the emperor himself making a PSA letting the public of the empire know that torrenting is 'stealing' and one of the paths to the dark side.

zarberg: farbekrieg: so long as lucas doesnt write i think it will be hard to screw up

It's not that he's a bad writer, he's an atrocious director.

we will have to agree to disagree on that one

/i didnt agree to that

TheMysteriousStranger: "Our scouts report that the remains of a LucasFilm base were found on Dantoonine but that it has been abandoned for some time."

Damn. Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener lied to us. Now we can't blow up the LucasFilm base in time to save the world from more crappy Star Wars stuff. Terminate him immediately.


Uh, everything's under control. Situation normal.

Uh... we had a slight posting malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now.

We're fine.

We're all fine here now.

Thank you.

.......................... how are you?

Zagloba: subby: the odds of it being good are 3,720 to 1

Really, subby? You think that it's overwhelmingly likely that, because Lucas wrote it, it'll be good?

Wait, what's that? You think it's unlikely?

Innumerate tard.

It's a reference to the first movie. C3PO got it wrong, too.

Or maybe he got it right. Asteroid fields are mostly empty. THAT is why Han was all pissy about being told the odds, how could he impress the princess by doing something safe?

farbekrieg: Cornwell: you have to start wondering how many locations the Empire had the plans stashed.

to be fair they were kept at a single location but then someone who worked in maintainence nicked a copy and put it up as a torrent for his empire buddys to check out their new 'l33t' weapon.

This 'torrent' problem eventually leads to the emperor himself making a PSA letting the public of the empire know that torrenting is 'stealing' and one of the paths to the dark side.

Wouldn't the emperor approve of people falling to the dark side?

/Behold the power of this fully operational lawyer corps!

For as much as everyone bashes Lucas and the prequels, the originals suffer from pretty much everything that the later ones do also.

Plus, have you recently watched the original Star Wars (77)? It's probably a good half hour longer than it needs to be and it DRAAAAGS through major chunks of the movie.

There were definitely flaws in the prequels, but they are not the soul crushing, childhood raping disappointment people make them out to be.

The last 30-45 minutes of ROTS is probably as good as it could be.

I laugh at the ideas that people pose for people to take the helm of future projects. Kevin Smith (try not to suck an Bantha cocks on your way through the space port) Quentin Tarantino (Did you see a sign that says dead Jawa storage) and others are stupid ideas. Star Wars doesn't need a hip dialogue generator. Stiff acting and stilted dialogue are what Star Wars has ALWAYS been. Harrison Ford said, "You can right this shiat, but you can't say it" about the original movies, not the prequels.

is this a repeat from 20 years ago?

farbekrieg: we will have to agree to disagree on that one

/i didnt agree to that

I didn't say he wasn't a bad writer.

If I had to guess (and this is just my opinion) I'd say the majority of Star Wars fans older than 30 would point to Empire being the best of the Star Wars movies. He came up with the base story and produced it. Someone else directed it. Someone else wrote the screenplay. That was a pretty good formula. Heck, it's not a bad formula to have in real life. When you insist on doing everything yourself there is little room for other people to legitimately say, "you know, this kinda sucks, have you thought of ... "

I could have sworn I read somewhere that Lucas seems to think CGI can solve everything, that actors were complaining they were barely off script when he'd call cut and wrap on a scene. No wonder the Clone Wars are not half bad - they seem to fit more into his vision of what visual media should be.

Mayhem of the Black Underclass: daychilde: Zagloba: subby: the odds of it being good are 3,720 to 1

Really, subby? You think that it's overwhelmingly likely that, because Lucas wrote it, it'll be good?

Wait, what's that? You think it's unlikely?

Innumerate tard.

Came to say this. Disappointed that it has appeared to whoosh right over most other heads here. :|

Why did you douches come to post in a star wars thread? You don't know the history of STAR WARS. I DO.

He used a formulaic line from The Empire Strikes Back:
C3P0: Sir, the possibility of successfully navigating an asteroid field is approximately 3,720 to 1.
subby might not be an innumerate retard, he might be a giant fanboi.

I've got a bad feeling about this.

Dammit. Missed reference.

/must drink vodak, because I'm a moran

That's no battle station, that's a moon.

FunkOut: DarthBrooks: Let me guess: it'll be about the ever-popular Clone Wars, where George Lucas has embedded the series for the entire 21st Century.

Oh no - will General Grievious be killed? Uh, no.
Oh no - will someone figure out Palpatine is a Sith? Uh, no.
Oh no - will Mace Windu be killed? Uh, no.

Etc.



Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

Is her right hand on the blade part of the lightsaber? Sure looks that way.

mjbok: Plus, have you recently watched the original Star Wars (77)? It's probably a good half hour longer than it needs to be and it DRAAAAGS through major chunks of the movie.

This is not necessarily a fault of the movie, it is the changing expectations of the audience. Before the music video and the jump-cut revolution, films actually stayed at one POV for more than ten seconds. When I saw the remastered version of "The Exorcist" I was surprise how languid the editing and pacing was compared to present-day movies.

Mofo_Jones: The only way to show your kids SW is in release order of 4 5 6 1 2 3. Otherwise, the surprises from the original trilogy are ruined by the events in 1 2 and 3. In fact, if anybody gets the dumb idea of showing my daughter SW before I do, there will be hell to pay.

/you don't need to see my identification
//...
///move along/profit

I've always thought it would be a good experiment to show one of your kids the series in 1 2 3 4 5 6 order and the other 4 5 6 1 2 3. I can't imagine what the perception of the series is if you watch 1 2 3 4 5 6.

Fano: Mofo_Jones: The only way to show your kids SW is in release order of 4 5 6 1 2 3. Otherwise, the surprises from the original trilogy are ruined by the events in 1 2 and 3. In fact, if anybody gets the dumb idea of showing my daughter SW before I do, there will be hell to pay.

/you don't need to see my identification
//...
///move along/profit

I've always thought it would be a good experiment to show one of your kids the series in 1 2 3 4 5 6 order and the other 4 5 6 1 2 3. I can't imagine what the perception of the series is if you watch 1 2 3 4 5 6.

The proper order is
#1 - Jar Jar
#6 - Ewoks
#2 - Jar Jar's return
#4 - R2 & Jawas
?
Profit

Meh... I'll complain if I have something to complain about.

A series set between episodes III and IV could have quite a few things going for it.

The growth of the Rebel Alliance and the first few battles with the Empire.
The rescue of Admiral Ackbar.
Quite a few kick-ass X-wing battles.
The death of Jar-Jar Binks (C'mon, he never reappears at a later point, and his death would be welcomed by quite a few fans).

theorellior: mjbok: Plus, have you recently watched the original Star Wars (77)? It's probably a good half hour longer than it needs to be and it DRAAAAGS through major chunks of the movie.

This is not necessarily a fault of the movie, it is the changing expectations of the audience. Before the music video and the jump-cut revolution, films actually stayed at one POV for more than ten seconds. When I saw the remastered version of "The Exorcist" I was surprise how languid the editing and pacing was compared to present-day movies.

This is correct. The pacing in movies has accelerated quite a bit since the late 70s. Also, there used to be a thing called "development" which typically gets short shrift these days.

Cornwell: A series set between episodes III and IV could have quite a few things going for it.

The growth of the Rebel Alliance and the first few battles with the Empire.
The rescue of Admiral Ackbar.
Quite a few kick-ass X-wing Z-95 Headhunter battles.
The death of Jar-Jar Binks (C'mon, he never reappears at a later point, and his death would be welcomed by quite a few fans).

FTFY

Fano: Quite a few kick-ass X-wing Z-95 Headhunter battles.

Nothing wrong with both.
The X-wing was operational prior to the battle of Yavin. There isn't too much canon on when it became operational, apart from things based on Empire at War. And canon has never been a hindrance for George Lucas anyway.

Cornwell: A series set between episodes III and IV could have quite a few things going for it.

The growth of the Rebel Alliance and the first few battles with the Empire.
The rescue of Admiral Ackbar.
Quite a few kick-ass X-wing battles.
The death of Jar-Jar Binks (C'mon, he never reappears at a later point, and his death would be welcomed by quite a few fans).

Plus a bunch of Han Solo adventures. I'm waiting for "Kessel Run: The Episode".

I don't have much hope for it unless the Boba Fett and the Emperor have the personality they do in Robot Chicken.

Wonder how much of it will be on Tatooine.

/It's appeared in every single movie cept Empire and even the Clone Wars.
//Guess which movie was the best.
///"If there's a bright center to the universe then your on the planet that is farthest from" my ass.

Cornwell: A series set between episodes III and IV could have quite a few things going for it.

The growth of the Rebel Alliance and the first few battles with the Empire.
The rescue of Admiral Ackbar.
Quite a few kick-ass X-wing battles.
The death of Jar-Jar Binks (C'mon, he never reappears at a later point, and his death would be welcomed by quite a few fans).

The only thing that would concern me about filming Jar-Jar's death is that Lucas would redeem him with some sort of heroic sacrifice. I want him to die like Michael Corleone at the end of Godfather III. Slumped over, realizing everything he did was wrong.

Cornwell: point, and his death would be welcomed by quite a few fans).

In the shot of Naboo at the end of the new RotJ, you can hear a Gungan yelling "Wesa free!"

flaminio: Plus a bunch of Han Solo adventures. I'm waiting for "Kessel Run: The Episode".

Oh dear, of course they would have to.
Casting a young Han Solo would be a hard job, because the world of fans would expect someone who could be Harrison Ford.
Judging from later experiences, they would probably do a internet search for "Australia's Shia Lebouf" and cast him.

Wedge Antilles would be an easier character to work with. A young Antilles could be just about anyone with a haircut that has been stolen of the head of Paul McCartney in the seventies.

Fano: The only thing that would concern me about filming Jar-Jar's death is that Lucas would redeem him with some sort of heroic sacrifice. I want him to die like Michael Corleone at the end of Godfather III. Slumped over, realizing everything he did was wrong.

Jar-Jar's death should be as he lived. His death should be the result of stupidity. Simple as that. It could well be a spectacular death as a result of spectacular stupidity though.

Cathedralmaster: In the shot of Naboo at the end of the new RotJ, you can hear a Gungan yelling "Wesa free!"

That will be edited out in the next release for the next shiny disc medium.

Cornwell: Casting a young Han Solo would be a hard job, because the world of fans would expect someone who could be Harrison Ford.

I wonder what Sean Patrick Flanery is up to these days...

Cathedralmaster: Cornwell: point, and his death would be welcomed by quite a few fans).

In the shot of Naboo at the end of the new RotJ, you can hear a Gungan yelling "Wesa free!"

So he was a slave in the shiat mines of Naboo?

mjbok:

I laugh at the ideas that people pose for people to take the helm of future projects. Kevin Smith (try not to suck an Bantha cocks on your way through the space port) Quentin Tarantino (Did you see a sign that says dead Jawa storage) and others are stupid ideas. Star Wars doesn't need a hip dialogue generator. Stiff acting and stilted dialogue are what Star Wars has ALWAYS been. Harrison Ford said, "You can right this shiat, but you can't say it" about the original movies, not the prequels.

Christ on a cracker...THIS.

I especially hate that Kevin Smith is often pointed to because he's a big fan of Star Wars (and very, very openly sucks Lucas's cock over it).

Big deal.

I was watching ROTJ last night, the scene where Luke is talking to Leia about Vader before their final confrontation on the Death Star. I forgot how painful that dialogue was, you know, but I kinda 'get' why it's that way, and have even excused some of the inconsistencies between the two sets of trilogies.

It's because there's a sort of muddled 'mythology' aspect to it, where not everything in the story 'gels' together because of being written over a significantly long period of time. And the dialogue? It has a sort of reverent, 'heroic, noble' bent to it.

This is not to say I'd call those movies the bestest things ever. I've never been THAT big a Star Wars fan, but I actually still find the original trilogy still charming in its ways. That's why I guess I don't mind the whole 'stilted' dialogue thing. For me, it just kinda fits. *shrug*

That said, please keep Kevin Smith the fark away from it. Oh, and Joss Whedon, too. (I never thought of Quentin Tarantino for it, but he should be kept away as well.)

I got a bad feeling about this.

/had to be said
//surprised it wasn't already
///slashies ftw

FunkOut
[Aayla Secura pic]
Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

A shapely kickass female jedi in a leather skirt and bra = my viewing assured.

I haven't forgotten that Star Wars has always been for kids and am happy that I can still enjoy it. I feel bad for those who can't.

Cornwell: The death of Jar-Jar Binks (C'mon, he never reappears at a later point, and his death would be welcomed by quite a few fans).

If you have seen the new version of Return Of The Jedi, during the final minutes of the movies - during the time when it is panning over all the cities and all the celebration is going on - when it gets to Naboo listen very closely and look to the top of one of the buildings.

Jar Jar is indeed alive. You hear him say, "Wee-sa free!"

I am not making this up.

DOW: I haven't forgotten that Star Wars has always been for kids and am happy that I can still enjoy it. I feel bad for those who can't.

Where has it ever been said that the original 3 movies were for kids?

Keywork99: Jar Jar is indeed alive. You hear him say, "Wee-sa free!"

Shouldn't that speech impediment among gungans be as common as hearing "Hey y'all, hold my beer and watch this!" on a Friday night south of the Mason-Dixon line?

/Only half kidding

Keywork99: If you have seen the new version of Return Of The Jedi, during the final minutes of the movies - during the time when it is panning over all the cities and all the celebration is going on - when it gets to Naboo listen very closely and look to the top of one of the buildings.

This is another reason why the new version of RotJ kinda sucked balls, besides the revamped songs in the sailbarge and at the end.

At least he's giving SW fans advanced notice now so they have months to prepare their excuses as to why the show sucks.

FunkOut: Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

I read somewhere (io9?) that it's going to be Jedi-less, which makes me wonder WHAT'S THE DAMN POINT?

I mean, I know there's more to it than Jedi/Sith duels, but the best parts of Star Wars begin when you hear keeshVWUUMmmmmmm ...

Cornwell: That's supposed to be "Yub nub"

SynthLord: keeshVWUUMmmmmmm

Excellent onomatopoeia.

Metaluna Mutant: FunkOut
[Aayla Secura pic]
Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

A shapely kickass female jedi in a leather skirt and bra = my viewing assured.

Unfortunately, she was killed on Felucia in Revenge of the Sith.

I wouldn't be surprised to see her show up in either flashbacks or as a blue ghost though. They're total idiots if they don't use the Quinlan Vos character, and Aayla played an important part in his life.

SynthLord: FunkOut: Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

I read somewhere (io9?) that it's going to be Jedi-less, which makes me wonder WHAT'S THE DAMN POINT?

I mean, I know there's more to it than Jedi/Sith duels, but the best parts of Star Wars begin when you hear keeshVWUUMmmmmmm ...

People like you, yes, just you, is the reason why Star Wars is mostly dead to me.

Star Wars is much more than the two things fanbois spooge their loads over (that would be Jedi and Boba Fett, for those not used to Star Wars nerds). 80% of what is epic about episode IV, is NOT jedi. It is clandestine operations, Han shooting first. It is shootouts with imperial stormtroopers, and X-wings in dogfights with TIE-fighters and dodging turbolasers. The rest is an aging jedi in combat with a geriatric who is moving at a third of the speed from when he was young.

Actually, apart from the three lightsaber duels and Luke's training on Dagobah, the rest of the OT is relatively jedi free. And you know what? That still makes them farking excellent movies. The Hoth battle stands out as the greatest example of what I like about Star Wars, that is jedi free apart from luke gutting a AT-AT to throw in a grenade.

SynthLord: FunkOut: Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

I read somewhere (io9?) that it's going to be Jedi-less, which makes me wonder WHAT'S THE DAMN POINT?

If it's set between III and IV, it's almost have to be Jedi-less, as the only two Jedi left are exiled on Dagobah and Tatooine.

theorellior: Cornwell: That's supposed to be "Yub nub"

[Ootini, biatch!]

Cornwell: People like you, yes, just you, is the reason why Star Wars is mostly dead to me.

Oh, get over it. I'd enjoy Star Wars if it didn't have Jedis in it. And I wouldn't want a show exclusively about Jedi, either.

But it's kind of like going to the Cheesecake Factory and finding out they've discontinued your favorite flavor. Sure, the rest of the cheesecake is awesome, but you're just a little less inclined to go back now.

flaminio: SynthLord: FunkOut: Maybe the whole series will be about this character.

I read somewhere (io9?) that it's going to be Jedi-less, which makes me wonder WHAT'S THE DAMN POINT?

If it's set between III and IV, it's almost have to be Jedi-less, as the only two Jedi left are exiled on Dagobah and Tatooine.

It better be about smugglers, the Hutt mafia, mercenaries, and bounty hunters then.

flaminio: If it's set between III and IV, it's almost have to be Jedi-less, as the only two Jedi left are exiled on Dagobah and Tatooine.

The expanded universe added significantly to the number of Jedi who survived the purge. From the Wookieepedia:

Halagad Ventor survived his torturing and was released a shell of a man. He would disappear for years before returning to the Rebel Alliance. Gruu Dunrik, Rahm Kota, Tyneir Renz, Damien Tantrellius, Corwin Shelvay, Drun Cairnwick, Rachi Sitra, Ferus Olin, and Roni von Wasaki would also join the Alliance. Aqinos had been excomunicated from the Order and therefore lived past the fall of the Sith.

Gel raised a family on Dalicron-4 and contacted the Rebel Alliance in 3 ABY when he heard about Luke Skywalker, to try and get Skywalker to take care of his force-sensitive grandchild Caeleb. However, he was killed soon after by the Dark Jedi Tol Skanos.

Beldorion, Maris Brood, Jerec, Danaan Kerr, Maw, Travgen, fell to the dark side and were eventually killed by other Jedi or Vader. Maris, however, was redeemed by Galen Marek, Vader's secret apprentice.

Valara Saar, Ood Bnar, Sinsor Khal, Thracia Cho-Leem, Kina Ha, Codi Ty, and Zao were not active in the Jedi Order and therefore avoided the Sith. Vergere was not in the galaxy at the time and thus was unaffected. Bardan Jusik, fled to Mandalore before the end of the Clone Wars and Ikrit was in hiding.

Taj Junak sacrificed himself to save his academy and was killed by stormtroopers after years of hiding. Nos'lyn would hide on Tatooine and help Force-sensitives learn the ways of the Force. Qid Proko worked as a technician, and Echuu Shen-Jon hid in waiting for a sign from the Force to rebuild the Order. Urootar was killed on Kasshyyyk by a bounty hunter. Jax Pavan and Laranth Tarak would try to undo the Empire on Coruscant. K'Kruhk would eventually take an Unnamed Padawan to the Hidden Temple. Empatojayos Brand, T'ra Saa, and some of Ephaan Kenzon's students later joined Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order. Qu Rahn would help Kyle Katarn in his quest for the Valley of the Jedi. Vima-Da-Boda would hide in shame in the Outer Rim after the Order's fall.

Obi-Wan Kenobi would die at the hands of Vader a few years after the end of the Purge, while Yoda succumbed to illness. Ekria, Drake Lo'gaan, Drakka Judarrl, Dass Jennir, Kai Justiss all went into hiding to avoid the attention of the Sith. A'Sharad Hett would disappear for a century and reemerge as the Dark Lord of the Sith. Celeste Morne was being used as a pawn of Vader and therefore was kept hidden until she escaped Vader's prison. Ephaan Kenzon opened a school in hiding for Force-sensitives. Glovan Thule was not considered powerful enough to be any concern. Tholme died while in hiding after the end of the Purge.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Jedi_Purge

Plus, those who did die weren't all killed at once. There was a conclave on Kessel, a group on Naboo, and Shaak Ti trained others on Felucia before encountering Vader's secret apprentice.

So there are plenty of Jedi for them to choose from. And enough leeway for them to create more if they so wanted.

Dear Lucas,
Please devote the rest of your life to filming the various Star Wars novels that Timothy Zahn has written. Change nothing. Just hire someone qualified to adapt it over to a screenplay and film that biatch.

We're so getting more ewok's aren't we?

Cathedralmaster: flaminio: If it's set between III and IV, it's almost have to be Jedi-less, as the only two Jedi left are exiled on Dagobah and Tatooine.

The expanded universe added significantly to the number of Jedi who survived the purge. From the Wookieepedia:

Halagad Ventor survived his torturing and was released a shell of a man. He would disappear for years before returning to the Rebel Alliance. Gruu Dunrik, Rahm Kota, Tyneir Renz, Damien Tantrellius, Corwin Shelvay, Drun Cairnwick, Rachi Sitra, Ferus Olin, and Roni von Wasaki would also join the Alliance. Aqinos had been excomunicated from the Order and therefore lived past the fall of the Sith.

Gel raised a family on Dalicron-4 and contacted the Rebel Alliance in 3 ABY when he heard about Luke Skywalker, to try and get Skywalker to take care of his force-sensitive grandchild Caeleb. However, he was killed soon after by the Dark Jedi Tol Skanos.

Beldorion, Maris Brood, Jerec, Danaan Kerr, Maw, Travgen, fell to the dark side and were eventually killed by other Jedi or Vader. Maris, however, was redeemed by Galen Marek, Vader's secret apprentice.

Valara Saar, Ood Bnar, Sinsor Khal, Thracia Cho-Leem, Kina Ha, Codi Ty, and Zao were not active in the Jedi Order and therefore avoided the Sith. Vergere was not in the galaxy at the time and thus was unaffected. Bardan Jusik, fled to Mandalore before the end of the Clone Wars and Ikrit was in hiding.

Taj Junak sacrificed himself to save his academy and was killed by stormtroopers after years of hiding. Nos'lyn would hide on Tatooine and help Force-sensitives learn the ways of the Force. Qid Proko worked as a technician, and Echuu Shen-Jon hid in waiting for a sign from the Force to rebuild the Order. Urootar was killed on Kasshyyyk by a bounty hunter. Jax Pavan and Laranth Tarak would try to undo the Empire on Coruscant. K'Kruhk would eventually take an Unnamed Padawan to the Hidden Temple. Empatojayos Brand, T'ra Saa, and some of Ephaan Kenzon's students later joined Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order. Qu Rahn would help Kyle Katarn in his quest for the Valley of the Jedi. Vima-Da-Boda would hide in shame in the Outer Rim after the Order's fall.

Obi-Wan Kenobi would die at the hands of Vader a few years after the end of the Purge, while Yoda succumbed to illness. Ekria, Drake Lo'gaan, Drakka Judarrl, Dass Jennir, Kai Justiss all went into hiding to avoid the attention of the Sith. A'Sharad Hett would disappear for a century and reemerge as the Dark Lord of the Sith. Celeste Morne was being used as a pawn of Vader and therefore was kept hidden until she escaped Vader's prison. Ephaan Kenzon opened a school in hiding for Force-sensitives. Glovan Thule was not considered powerful enough to be any concern. Tholme died while in hiding after the end of the Purge.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Jedi_Purge

Plus, those who did die weren't all killed at once. There was a conclave on Kessel, a group on Naboo, and Shaak Ti trained others on Felucia before encountering Vader's secret apprentice.

So there are plenty of Jedi for them to choose from. And enough leeway for them to create more if they so wanted.

You expressed what I longed to say.

There just wouldn't be jedi ARMIES. I have no problem with the number of jedi being limited. Or not at all. The old West End Games RPG of Star Wars pretty much limited Jedi to only the canon characters.

ha-ha-guy: Dear Lucas,
Please devote the rest of your life to filming the various Star Wars novels that Timothy Zahn has written. Change nothing. Just hire someone qualified to adapt it over to a screenplay and film that biatch.

We're so getting more ewok's aren't we?



You'll get more ewoks and LIKE IT!

ha-ha-guy: Dear Lucas,
Please devote the rest of your life to filming the various Star Wars novels that Timothy Zahn has written. Change nothing. Just hire someone qualified to adapt it over to a screenplay and film that biatch.

Yes, because furry worms that absorb the Force and Clones with extra vowels in their names are so much better than anything Lucas has written.