Remember, Pat Robertson quit presidential politics in the 1980's.

He didn't like the constant scrutiny that went along with it.

Palin's probably just done the same thing.

ANY Governor (outside of Sanford) that abruptly resigned their elected office "out of the blue" with a year and a half to go with a rambling, nonsense speech - would have been equally scrutinized as Palin has been this weekend.

People can spin this however they wish, but the FACTS are nutty by themselves.

Sorry if someone already said this, but didn't she already burst on the national scene - as in her head asploded?

biglot: Remember, Pat Robertson quit presidential politics in the 1980's.

He didn't like the constant scrutiny that went along with it.

Palin's probably just done the same thing.

So you think she's going to take over as host of the 700 club?

biglot: Remember, Pat Robertson quit presidential politics in the 1980's.

He didn't like the constant scrutiny that went along with it.

Palin's probably just done the same thing.

He quit because he's more powerful as a right-wing organizer. He's the one who brought the wingnuts into the party in the first place.

karasoth:
LOL I am not being a campaigner

I am making a statement based on the behavior of American voters

I'll like to believe you're a troll, but you've put in a lot of work in these threads, so i think you're just insane.

Your_Huckleberry: She is easily as polarizing a figure as President Bush or Dick Cheney, I know there are liberals who seethe with rage when they think of her.

I think that very few seethe with rage about her, with the exception of Alaska right now. They were furious with her antics during the campaign, but that's then and this is now. Today she is thought of as a sad excuse for a politician.

Hatred is a very strong term. She is now just a footnote in history, and arouses anger in very few these days.

On the other hand, I can show you an unprecedented hatred in Obama.

I think she's just been listening to too much Peter Gabriel.

The place where I come from is a small town
They think so small
They use small words
But not me!
I'm smarter than that
I've worked it out
I'll been stretching my mouth
To let those big words come right out

I've had enough, I'm getting out
To the city, the big big city
I'll be a big noise with all the big boys
There's so much stuff I will own

And I will pray to a big god
As I kneel in the big church

Big time!
I'm on my way, I'm making it
Big time!

Big time!
I've got to make it show yeah

Big time!
So much larger than life

Big time!
I'm going to watch it growing!

My parties all have big names
And I greet them with the widest smile
Tell them how my life is one big adventure
And always they're amazed
When I show them round my house, to my bed
I had it made like a mountain range
With a snow-white pillow for my big fat head

And my heaven will be a big heaven
And I will walk through the front door

Big time
I'm on my way-I'm making it
Big time big time
Ive got to make it show-yeah
Big time big time
So much larger than life
Im going to watch it growing
Big time!

Big time!
My car is getting bigger
Big time!
My house is getting bigger
Big time!
My eyes are getting bigger
Big time!
And my mouth

Big time!
My belly is getting bigger
Big time!
And my bank account
Big time!
Look at my circumstance
Big time!
And the bulge in my big big big big big big
Big

moralpanic: karasoth:
LOL I am not being a campaigner

I am making a statement based on the behavior of American voters

I'll like to believe you're a troll, but you've put in a lot of work in these threads, so i think you're just insane.

I read his blog(s). I think he's just insane. Either that, or he's got a helluva lot of dedication.

Lenny_da_Hog: I think she's just been listening to too much Peter Gabriel.

Right artist. Wrong song.

It's nice here with a view of the trees
Eating with a spoon?
They don't give you knives?
'Spect you watch those trees
Blowing in the breeze
We want to see you lead a normal life

Ed Grubermann: Lenny_da_Hog: I think she's just been listening to too much Peter Gabriel.

Right artist. Wrong song.

It's nice here with a view of the trees
Eating with a spoon?
They don't give you knives?
'Spect you watch those trees
Blowing in the breeze
We want to see you lead a normal life

Heh. I think they both apply on a Perception vs. Reality basis.

clambam: Salt Lick Steady: karasoth: We need a person with Palin's upside

What in the everloving hell is her upside?

She loves America. I think she really does. She has the moral qualifications to be president of the US, as much as anyone else. Perhaps she lacks the intellectual qualifications and experience we'd like to see in a POTUS, but the recent Republican strategy has been to run regular guys like Bush and Palin against Democratic policy wonks like Gore and Kerry, and it was working pretty well until Bush screwed the pooch.

Dude, no she does not "love" America. She "loves" her own dimwitted narrow wacko christian view of what she wants it to be. And even if she did get all weepy at the sight of what actual America is like, that's not the only qualification for the presidency. As for being moral, she's a politician fleeing from her office like it caught on fire. She has over a dozen ethics scandals wandering around plodding on with zombie like stubbornness. That is not a moral person.

As for that regular guys thing, yes, it worked in the polls and now America's going down like the Roman Empire only faster because of that Texan moran. ( And no, Obama cannot stop that, even though I voted for the man, he cannot stop this.) People are realizing that they don't want a "regular guy" in office. Because your average Joe cannot do the job. I wanted the biggest brain this country has to offer, not some loser that I'd like to drink with.

Halli: puswods4ya: Palin says Hillary Clinton shouldn't whine about media tough media coverage....says it's a diservice to all women in politics and business.
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OH....but when it's saint sarah it's ok to cut and run when the going gets just the slightest bit tough. Lord knows nobody on the right ever mentioned Hillarys "cankels" or called Little Chelsea "ugly" or anything mean like that.

Let's not forget that she murdered Vince Foster in cold blood.

Yeah takin' out Vince just shows how tough she really is. No "puzzy" shiat like shootin' a defensless animal from a helicopter.

Palin gives a rambling speech that makes no sense and then has her lawyer threaten to sue if anyone tries to interpret the speech outside of glowing.

Nutty as a fruitcake.

SpookyBlues: clambam: Salt Lick Steady: karasoth: We need a person with Palin's upside

What in the everloving hell is her upside?

She loves America. I think she really does. She has the moral qualifications to be president of the US, as much as anyone else. Perhaps she lacks the intellectual qualifications and experience we'd like to see in a POTUS, but the recent Republican strategy has been to run regular guys like Bush and Palin against Democratic policy wonks like Gore and Kerry, and it was working pretty well until Bush screwed the pooch.

Dude, no she does not "love" America. She "loves" her own dimwitted narrow wacko christian view of what she wants it to be. And even if she did get all weepy at the sight of what actual America is like, that's not the only qualification for the presidency. As for being moral, she's a politician fleeing from her office like it caught on fire. She has over a dozen ethics scandals wandering around plodding on with zombie like stubbornness. That is not a moral person.

As for that regular guys thing, yes, it worked in the polls and now America's going down like the Roman Empire only faster because of that Texan moran. ( And no, Obama cannot stop that, even though I voted for the man, he cannot stop this.) People are realizing that they don't want a "regular guy" in office. Because your average Joe cannot do the job. I wanted the biggest brain this country has to offer, not some loser that I'd like to drink with.

Well, that depends on which America you're talking about. She loves Real Americans. Unlike the folks who've been in the union since the beginning, whose people fought and died in the Revolution, who actually signed the Declaration of Independence, who actually hosted the Constitutional Congress. You know, all the effette East Coasters. Not Real Americans, like those who bravely joined after all the shooting was done. When there was a economic power to side with.

I hate to break this to you clambam--America was founded by intellectuals and Diests. Not Christians who wore their faith on their sleeve, but could actually discuss and debate on the issues before them, and who saw fit to protect even dissenting voices, and dissenting religions, as being essential to the ideals of freedom.

That my own party has elements that are actively looking at restricing said freedoms, hates the idea of discussion, of diplomacy, of reason and debate, and wants nothing more than to restrict rights and exclude citizenship, that is counter to the very ideals that the Republican party was founded upon.

If folks want Conservatives first, and Republicans second, perhaps they should form up their own party, and leave. Because the Republican ideal was the preservation of the Republic. Roll that around the mouth a bit. It's right there in the name. Republic. Not "The Conservative Party." Not "God's Party." If you cannot put republic first, then you have no business being in this party, and that there are so many RINOs who masquerade as Republicans while actively working to subvert Constitution and the state for private profit or idealism to a religious goal, then maybe you need to leave, because those folks the Republicans in Name Only. And you embarrass the hell out of me, and the nation.

Antidamascus: Your latest Freeper comment!

To: Schnucki

Who hinted that she might tour the US with Rush?

Come on Rush, do it with Sarah. The media would follow you both like flies. Bambi would be left with himself. Nothing

4 posted on Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:50:53 PM by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)

I really can't see Geddy Lee getting behind this idea.

sirbissel: i6.photobucket.com

Yuo mispelled "probly"

rnld: Palin gives a rambling speech that makes no sense and then has her lawyer threaten to sue if anyone tries to interpret the speech outside of glowing.

Nutty as a fruitcake.



...and quitting early to avoid the fallout of the decisions you've made doesn't help either.

This is the problem. It's an issue of responsibility.

The GOP has long touted itself as the party of responsibility. That is unfortunate as of late, since the leadership hasn't actually accepted responsibility for a heck of a lot lately. It's an issue across the nation, as we are heading towards more of a shame based culture, and more people think that "responsibility" and "blame" are equal synonyms and interchangable at any time.

Responsibility is accepted. It is taken. You step up to responsibility--and you take those duties onto yourself. Shedding them when things get tough, that isn't responsibility, and it's not leadership. And the sad thing is, Palin is only a tiny symptom of this shift towards a shame based culture, and the myth that "leadership" is "always right."

Palin's sureity is what worries me about her. Her certitude, despite inconvenent facts is not leadership. It is an attempt to press a view on reality, to create reality even when things aren't there. She, and many others, feel that leadership is about expressing your will to make things happen. And that is the problem--responsibility doesn't play into that model. If things go wrong, because you've committed to an action, despite the facts before you, it's hard to accept the responsibility when things go kerflooey. Responsibility is a nice word, it's a nice catch phrase, but it responsibility isn't in her political model.

It's other people to blame. In part, you can look to her religious views--God's Will and Supply Side Jesus will it, so it must be, and if facts don't pan out, then it must be evil doers who have flouted God's Plan. That sort of certitude doesn't jibe well with good governance, because it doesn't lend itself to a simple maxim: Pray to God, but row to shore.

You can certainly pray that the economic and political winds will favor you and yours, but if not, you adjust those sails to meet the actual conditions. Certitude like hers worries me, because it leaves no room for correction, it leaves no room for adjusting policy and tactics if you turn out to be wrong.

Good leaders adjust. They see what exists, and move to take the variables into account. You can certainly have an agenda, and goals, but you can't keep advancing based on a strategy that you declared as being final if things change. And that certitude that has crept into the language of those who like the mantle of "Conservatives" doesn't allow for change. It is a hidebound and politically inflexible mantra that they are right, no matter what the prevailing conditions might be.

The economy is bad, cut taxes. The economy is good, cut taxes. The economy is wobbling, cut taxes. The economy is bad, we need to increase spending. The economy is good, we need to increase spending. The economy is wobbling, we need to increase spending.

Fiscal Conservatism is more than tax cuts. It is efficient spending. It is efficient taxation, and that means consideration that Palin and those like her don't like. Consideration isn't "leadership" in their mind, because leadership has to be bold. It has to be out there in front! Leadership isn't worried or considered, it's exciting!

And it is apparently without a whiff of responsibility. And that is my real worry, is that the responsibility has faded from that side of the leadership, in favor of a certitude that doesn't allow for facts or a changable landscape.

hubiestubert: Fiscal Conservatism is more than tax cuts. It is efficient spending. It is efficient taxation, and that means consideration that Palin and those like her don't like. Consideration isn't "leadership" in their mind, because leadership has to be bold. It has to be out there in front! Leadership isn't worried or considered, it's exciting!

I have come, in the past few years, to realize that conservatism as it practiced in the states has far less to do with any set of consistent principals, and more to do with the ability of its practitioners to see reality as they wish it was instead of how it really is.

Skleenar: hubiestubert: Fiscal Conservatism is more than tax cuts. It is efficient spending. It is efficient taxation, and that means consideration that Palin and those like her don't like. Consideration isn't "leadership" in their mind, because leadership has to be bold. It has to be out there in front! Leadership isn't worried or considered, it's exciting!

I have come, in the past few years, to realize that conservatism as it practiced in the states has far less to do with any set of consistent principals, and more to do with the ability of its practitioners to see reality as they wish it was instead of how it really is.

Over time it has come to that. Social Conservatives are hardly social, nor are they terribly conservative--very much radicals who like to couch their rhetoric and opposition to the Consitution with a veneer of "conservatism" in the sense they don't want anything to change, not in the sense of Conservation and preservation of the republic. And there lies the problem.

We have a lot of folks who have a woefully inadequate political education, and couple that with a myopic view of history and a inability to parse the simplest of critical thinking skills, and you have a movement that eager to serve that market, and use their naivitee and lack of skills and education for their own ends--and the irony of them using the Conservative brand goes right over the Eager Idiots heads...

Wow, do I detect some anger and unrelieved hostility? First of all, I am not defending Sarah Palin. I think she'd make a terrible, a godawful president. Secondly, isn't questioning the patriotism of your opponents a Republican strategy? Nevertheless I believe Palin's love for her country, no matter how distorted her view of the country is, is genuine and no more to be disparaged than my patriotism, or yours.

I agree, we don't need a regular guy in the White House. We don't need an inspiring orator either. What we do need right now, and do not have, is a soulless technocrat, someone who can roll up his or her sleeves and clean up the mess left by the Bush Administration. I don't see any evidence that Obama is particularly fit for that role. The two candidates who best filled our needs were Bill Richardson on the Democratic side and Rudy Guiliani for the Republicans. You'll note that neither made it anywhere near the White House.

I suspect that the Republican Party is in serious danger of making itself obsolete. That would be a bad thing; this country needs two parties, the system has worked well for us in the past. After the current financial disaster is averted (God willing!), I would expect the Republicans to fulfill their traditional role as fiscal conservatives and steer the Democrats away from the drunken sailor spending habits which is their hallmark; just as during a Republican administration, I would expect the Democrats to fulfill their traditional role as the country's social conscience and steer the Republicans away from their proclivity to pave the road to a booming economy with the skulls of illegal alien anchor babies.

If she does decide to run for President of the United States of America; my decision to not vote for her will not be due to her race, religion, or sex.

It will be because I find her to be extremely ignorant to what Americans need right now, and a very stupid person in general.

Richard M Nixon: You know, that comparison almost scared me for a moment, then I remembered that Nixon had held every single office he was ever elligble for other than Captain of the Whittier Community College football team and Governor of California, and Palin was councilwoman and mayor of a town of 6,300 and then less-than-one term Governor of a state of 6,400.

The point about Nixon is that he was pretty much get-out-your-crayons-and-color-him-done in 1962. That situation changed in just six years.

Did you ever think Al Franken would be a Minnesota Senator six years ago?

Did you ever think Arnold Schwarzenegger would be Governor of California six years after he played Mr. Freeze?

Six years after Ronald Reagan was playing a bad guy in The Killers he was already two years into his new job as Governor of California.

Six years after John Glenn quit being an astronaut, he ran for Senate. He lost, then won, then went *back* to space after 24 years in the Senate.

The point is: you're not the same person your whole life, and opportunities constantly change. Thinking that Palin's public life is over is absurd.

DarthBrooks: The point is: you're not the same person your whole life, and opportunities constantly change. Thinking that Palin's public life is over is absurd.

Two months ago, would you have ever predicted that Palin would resign as Governor?

You know, it may be that the aberration here is that she ever was in public office in the first place.

DarthBrooks: Richard M Nixon: You know, that comparison almost scared me for a moment, then I remembered that Nixon had held every single office he was ever elligble for other than Captain of the Whittier Community College football team and Governor of California, and Palin was councilwoman and mayor of a town of 6,300 and then less-than-one term Governor of a state of 6,400.

The point about Nixon is that he was pretty much get-out-your-crayons-and-color-him-done in 1962. That situation changed in just six years.

Did you ever think Al Franken would be a Minnesota Senator six years ago?

Did you ever think Arnold Schwarzenegger would be Governor of California six years after he played Mr. Freeze?

Six years after Ronald Reagan was playing a bad guy in The Killers he was already two years into his new job as Governor of California.

Six years after John Glenn quit being an astronaut, he ran for Senate. He lost, then won, then went *back* to space after 24 years in the Senate.

The point is: you're not the same person your whole life, and opportunities constantly change. Thinking that Palin's public life is over is absurd.

Dan Quayle misspelled potatoe. Immediately his political career was over. Welcome to the modern world. Do you really think this woman's mistaks are as simple as a spelling mistake?

The problem with conservatives, as I've noted before, is that what we now call "conservatives" 30 or 40 years ago would have been labeled "reactionaries." Conservatives, by definition, don't want things to change. Ronald Reagan moved political discourse in this country a giant step to the right by taking reactionary attitudes (i.e., let's set things back to the way they were in the good ol' days) and calling it conservatism. Moderates are the new conservatives, liberalism the new moderation. Imagine how the '60's radicals would laugh if they knew about the timidly progressive politics that now passes for the radical left wing.

True conservatives need to take back their name. They need to reject the John Birch style right wing radicalism currently masquerading as conservatism. A genuine Conservative Party would attract well-meaning voters from both sides of the aisle, those sick of right wing Republican craziness as well as thoughtless Democratic fiscal irresponsibility. If I may fish back in America's history for an appropriate name, just as at the founding of the Republic there was a Democratic-Republican Party, we need a Moderate-Conservative Party to counterbalance the excesses of the existing parties.

rohar: Dan Quayle misspelled potatoe. Immediately his political career was over. Welcome to the modern world. Do you really think this woman's mistaks are as simple as a spelling mistake?

Are these typos deliberate or ironic? Either way, I salute you.

DarthBrooks: Richard M Nixon: You know, that comparison almost scared me for a moment, then I remembered that Nixon had held every single office he was ever elligble for other than Captain of the Whittier Community College football team and Governor of California, and Palin was councilwoman and mayor of a town of 6,300 and then less-than-one term Governor of a state of 6,400.

The point about Nixon is that he was pretty much get-out-your-crayons-and-color-him-done in 1962. That situation changed in just six years.

Did you ever think Al Franken would be a Minnesota Senator six years ago?

Did you ever think Arnold Schwarzenegger would be Governor of California six years after he played Mr. Freeze?

Six years after Ronald Reagan was playing a bad guy in The Killers he was already two years into his new job as Governor of California.

Six years after John Glenn quit being an astronaut, he ran for Senate. He lost, then won, then went *back* to space after 24 years in the Senate.

The point is: you're not the same person your whole life, and opportunities constantly change. Thinking that Palin's public life is over is absurd.

The point you keep missing about the Nixon/Palin comparison is that Nixon had a long career in the House and the Senate, served two terms as vice president, and won the Republican presidential nomination BEFORE he was written off in '62, which made it easier for him to come back in '68. I'm not saying it's impossible for Palin to make a big comeback in six years, but she'll have a much tougher time than Nixon.

Plus, Nixon won in '68 by bringing in Southerners who were pissed off about the civil rights movement. It was part of the biggest political realignment of the 20th century. It will be very difficult to do that again.

Skleenar: Two months ago, would you have ever predicted that Palin would resign as Governor?

You know, it may be that the aberration here is that she ever was in public office in the first place.

Her best move now is what's probably going to happen: expect a TV show ("Sarah Live!") followed by several years of women tuning in with Sarah on their TV every morning. Gradually, she's in the league of Ellen and Kelly Ripa and Oprah-land. It's Sarah this, Sarah that -- she winds up being in a positive PR spin and she's not the boogeyman the press painted her.

Heck, Martha Stewart was in *jail* and she patched up her public image pretty well on TV. Palin's got her best shot in leaving politics for a bit and reconstituting her base.

DarthBrooks: he point about Nixon is that he was pretty much get-out-your-crayons-and-color-him-done in 1962. That situation changed in just six years.

Did you ever think Al Franken would be a Minnesota Senator six years ago?

Did you ever think Arnold Schwarzenegger would be Governor of California six years after he played Mr. Freeze?

Six years after Ronald Reagan was playing a bad guy in The Killers he was already two years into his new job as Governor of California.

Six years after John Glenn quit being an astronaut, he ran for Senate. He lost, then won, then went *back* to space after 24 years in the Senate.

The point is: you're not the same person your whole life, and opportunities constantly change. Thinking that Palin's public life is over is absurd.

Nixon was elected to the House, Senate, served for 8 years as VP under Ike and lost a squeaker to JFK in 1960.

Nixon's 1962 speech was not about resigning any office.

Al Franken was not on any losing ticked and never resigned an elected post. Granted, he had never held elected office either.

Arnold was a HUGE tough guy box office star. Never quit anything.

Reagan was President of the powerful Screen Actor's guild. Didn't quit.

John Glenn was a national hero. He didn't give some rambling speech about "quitting" the space program.

Palin - resigned as Governor of Alaska with almost half her term remaining with a rambling speech that raised more questions than answers. There is NO comparison.

DarthBrooks: Palin's got her best shot in leaving politics for a bit and reconstituting her base.



It's not her base that needs work. More like her blending.

clambam: rohar: Dan Quayle misspelled potatoe. Immediately his political career was over. Welcome to the modern world. Do you really think this woman's mistaks are as simple as a spelling mistake?

Are these typos deliberate or ironic? Either way, I salute you.

I was so hoping someone would get it. It annoyed me no end seeing all those words with red underlining in my post. THANKS!

I beg you, all of you on Fark, please since Sarah Palin will no longer be governor, please please please move Sarah Palin links to the showbiz tab. God knows, she should've been there all along for all the entertainment I've gotten out of her.

DarthBrooks: Palin's got her best shot in leaving politics for a bit and reconstituting her base.

But what about all that valuable executive experience she was gaining as governor?

It's one thing to believe that it's possible for her to make a comeback. It's completely off the wall to think that she just made the most brilliant strategic move in the history of politics.

Sarah Palin did in fact burst on the scene this week.

HighOnCraic: DarthBrooks: Palin's got her best shot in leaving politics for a bit and reconstituting her base.

But what about all that valuable executive experience she was gaining as governor?

It's one thing to believe that it's possible for her to make a comeback. It's completely off the wall to think that she just made the most brilliant strategic move in the history of politics.

It's no more "brillant" than Nixon losing an election and telling the press it was his last press conference and they wouldn't have him to "kick around anymore."

Who said "she just made the most brilliant strategic move in the history of politics?" I mean, besides your post.

DarthBrooks: It's no more "brillant" than Nixon losing an election and telling the press it was his last press conference and they wouldn't have him to "kick around anymore."

At least Nixon waited for the election to be over - no matter what the poll numbers.

Saying it's your last press conference is not what Palin did. She quit her elected position and then keeps doing Twitter updates and Facebook Blogs. She never said she was quitting politics.

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I swear, Palin could have pooped into her left hand and run around holding it in circles doing glossolalia and then punted Trig into a jello mound and there would be these conservative pundits writing about how she is the one who is crafty like a fox.

Sarah Palin can't possibly think she could win the election based on her performance as a VP candidate. I mean what sort of person would vote for her? I mean, you would have to have zero concept of what is going on in the world to ever in a million years believe she would be able to handle the pressures of being in office. Every time she screwed up in an interview or a debate, she blamed it on someone else. We, as a country, cannot possibly be that stupid to elect someone like her.

Oh wait...we elected Bush for two terms. I'll just be quiet and grab some popcorn while this thing unfolds.

Bacontastesgood: I swear, Palin could have pooped into her left hand and run around holding it in circles doing glossolalia and then punted Trig into a jello mound and there would be these conservative pundits writing about how she is the one who is crafty like a fox.

And dozens of guys fapping to that because I'm sure some people think that's erotic.

hubiestubert:


Palin was chiding Hillary for getting weepy during the campaign, when weepiness is the LAST thing Americans want from the CinC.

That's a little bit different from holding office and being acccused by a journalist of corruption - proof of which the journalist claims to have - and of being under federal investigation for it.

DarthBrooks: HighOnCraic: DarthBrooks: Palin's got her best shot in leaving politics for a bit and reconstituting her base.

But what about all that valuable executive experience she was gaining as governor?

It's one thing to believe that it's possible for her to make a comeback. It's completely off the wall to think that she just made the most brilliant strategic move in the history of politics.

It's no more "brillant" than Nixon losing an election and telling the press it was his last press conference and they wouldn't have him to "kick around anymore."

Who said "she just made the most brilliant strategic move in the history of politics?" I mean, besides your post.

I was just being funny.

You did say this was her "best shot," though. I honestly don't see how you can spin this as something that's guaranteed to work.

The Nixon analogy just doesn't work; he left the scene after losing an election in '62. Leaving the scene in the middle of a term raises questions, at the least.

HighOnCraic: The Nixon analogy just doesn't work; he left the scene after losing an election in '62.

He didn't "leave the scene" either. He made a glib comment about it being his last press conference because he felt the media was against him; he spent a lot of the next 5-6 years building up strength for another run, and the way was cleared after Goldwater's superfail.

crab66: Clinton is a very intelligent person. She never constantly biatched and moaned about the other side attacking her or her family.

ooooh, she did.

Meghan Stapleton, Palin's personal spokeswoman, tried to tamp down some of the speculation, saying that Palin's comments about serving outside government were describing her immediate plans. It's too early to say whether Palin would run for president, Stapleton said, and in the meantime, the governor will continue to work to bring "positive change as a citizen without a title right now."

Stapleton called Palin's resignation a "fighting move."

"This is a move that says, 'Enough, I'm not going to keep hitting my head against this wall. I'm not playing politics as usual. You go play that game. I'll go play it another way and at another court,' so she can get something done and make a difference with the issues and values that are important to her," Stapleton told FOX News.

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HighOnCraic: The point you keep missing about the Nixon/Palin comparison is that Nixon had a long career in the House and the Senate, served two terms as vice president, and won the Republican presidential nomination BEFORE he was written off in '62, which made it easier for him to come back in '68. I'm not saying it's impossible for Palin to make a big comeback in six years, but she'll have a much tougher time than Nixon.

Plus, Nixon won in '68 by bringing in Southerners who were pissed off about the civil rights movement. It was part of the biggest political realignment of the 20th century. It will be very difficult to do that again.

Plus Nixon was a capable president, except for the Watergate stuff...and bombing Cambodia...and a couple of other things.

However, look at the amazing comeback he has in the future.

"I remember my body. Flabby, pasty skin, riddled with phlebitis - a good republican body. God, I loved it

Has anyone pointed out in this thread that she is simply a daffy coont?

Sarah Bailin is failin