Cute chick.

Cool story, bro!

Wow, that's a really amazing transgendervestite I don't know what word to use here. Where's WR when you need her?

That's EXTREME!

blonde

There is no way I would know that at one time she was a man.

Bek: Where's WR when you need her?

you called? ;)

mjoven1975: There is no way I would know that at one time she was a man.

Which is actually pretty common. Indeed if you think about it, it's kind of the whole point in a way.

Yeah, definitely would have fooled me. Good for her, and good on the magazine for not tossing her from the list after finding out.

GAT_00: good on the magazine for not tossing her from the list after finding ou

It's an English magazine, they don't have to worry about a bunch of fundy types screaming on FoxNews for a week ;)

WhyteRaven74: mjoven1975: There is no way I would know that at one time she was a man.

Which is actually pretty common. Indeed if you think about it, it's kind of the whole point in a way.

It can go both ways though. There was a transsexual who ran for mayor in my hometown. "She" was about 6 foot 5 and was built like a linebacker.

mjoven1975: There was a transsexual who ran for mayor in my hometown

Yeah results can vary. Though some of that can be remedied if a person chooses to remedy it.

"I thought you said you were born in Iran."

Well. That obviously explains her success.

I am so confused!

that's a man, baby!

/at least by our genetic standards. Gender-wise...its up to the person.
//i wouldn't hit it.

Matthew Gwyther is full of shiat. 'She' has been on TV a number of times, has her own website on sexual identity rights, etc. A cynical person (hi) might think that 'her' position on the list, particularly as 'her' company is a minnow, was nothing more than a PR move - a successful one, it seems.

Heh, haemaker wins it!

Also, this is the Internet and "she" runs an Internet company. There are no girls on the Internet, jut G.I.R.L.s

TRAP THREAD!

yeh.. would.

She...uh

She looks like the majority of any volleyball players I've ever known. She's definitely not bad looking at all.

I'd hit it (her)...

/but then I'm on Fark, so there is that

If you didn;t tell me she was a man, I would never have known, until of course she becomes untucked

She looks like a sort-of-masculine woman. I wouldn't have guessed she was born a dude, but I wouldn't exactly call her "hot."

On second thought, she would be hot for a serious volleyball girl.
And less masculine.

Yankees Team Gynecologist: She looks like a sort-of-masculine woman. I wouldn't have guessed she was born a dude, but I wouldn't exactly call her "hot."

She's hot for a successful IT business woman. But she looks way better in make up.

/I'd hit it

This guy understands




/no obscure, Just Shoot Me reference

Let's see her titties.

I bet she'd let you stick it in her pooper.

haemaker: "I thought you said you were born in Iran."

Came here for this.

/it takes all sorts to make a world

TRAPS!

Just me?

haemaker: "I thought you said you were born in Iran."

Hah, I miss the IT Crowd. Damn everyone else for having such short TV series. I mean six episodes and then wait till 2010?! BS!

Sorry, but taking hormones and turning your penis inside out does not make you a woman.

Do you have a Y Chromosome? Then you're male.

I found this more amusing:

RidesAPaleHorse: Sorry, but taking hormones and turning your penis inside out does not make you a woman.

Do you have a Y Chromosome? Then you're male.

Her sex is male, her gender isn't.

RidesAPaleHorse: Sorry, but taking hormones and turning your penis inside out does not make you a woman.

Do you have a Y Chromosome? Then you're male.

Made it to over thirty posts before a pinhead chimed in. That might be a FARK record for these sort of threads. Worst episode of South Park ever.

timefishblue: RidesAPaleHorse: Sorry, but taking hormones and turning your penis inside out does not make you a woman.

Do you have a Y Chromosome? Then you're male.

Her sex is male, her gender isn't.

Sorry, her gender and sex is male. whether or not you want to believe otherwise.

timefishblue: RidesAPaleHorse: Sorry, but taking hormones and turning your penis inside out does not make you a woman.

Do you have a Y Chromosome? Then you're male.

Her sex is male, her gender isn't.

By what your saying, 100 years ago any girl that wanted to play sports or wear pants would be "transgendered"

In other news, being born with a penis isn't immunity from becoming an attention whore.

Meh, basically a white Serena Williams.

Repo Man: That might be a FARK record for these sort of threads

I've seen a thread go over 50 posts on this topic before the pinheads came around.

/also ever notice most tranny threads show up on Saturdays?

Repo Man: RidesAPaleHorse: Sorry, but taking hormones and turning your penis inside out does not make you a woman.

Do you have a Y Chromosome? Then you're male.

Made it to over thirty posts before a pinhead chimed in. That might be a FARK record for these sort of threads. Worst episode of South Park ever.

Great, here come the FARK ad hominem attack defense force.

RidesAPaleHorse: Sorry, but taking hormones and turning your penis inside out does not make you a woman.

Do you have a Y Chromosome? Then you're male.

That's outrageous, next someone will say a person born in the 20th century can't demand to legally be addressed as a knight of King Arther's round table.

beoswulf: timefishblue: RidesAPaleHorse: Sorry, but taking hormones and turning your penis inside out does not make you a woman.

Do you have a Y Chromosome? Then you're male.

Her sex is male, her gender isn't.

By what your saying, 100 years ago any girl that wanted to play sports or wear pants would be "transgendered"

In other news, being born with a penis isn't immunity from becoming an attention whore.

No, I mean gender in the psychological sense. Having your penis flipped inside out and thinking that you're really a woman is nowhere near anything to do with pants or skirts.

Goldeneye007: Sorry, her gender and sex is male. whether or not you want to believe otherwise.

What you want to believe doesn't overturn what's well accepted in psychological, anthropological and sociological circles.

RidesAPaleHorse: Sorry, but taking hormones and turning your penis inside out does not make you a woman. Do you have a Y Chromosome? Then you're male.

All the genes on your chromosomes do is tell your gonads to develop one way or another. From there, everything developmentally comes down to hormones.

That's why you have intersexed people and people with gender identity issues. Hormones that affect the fetus can come from outside the womb. Or the genes that control the development of the gonads can malfunction, causing a hormone imbalance or hormone insensitivity. That's also why the whole XX/XY thing as an absolute test is kinda bogus, since it is not a guaranteed system.

In the end, who cares. The lady in the article was an adult, she made a choice, and she had the resources to have the job carried out successfully. Now she's making big money and is leading a successful life. More power to her.

So everyone so sure that XY must be male, XX must be female....

Just curious about your other views on evolution and on nature vs. nurture and other things.

For example, do you think being gay is a choice?
What about XXY? Can they be transgendered?

If an XY starts taking hormones at an early age, and for a long duration, what then, are they exclusively male too?

Are all characteristics we associate with male and female behaviors (not just genitals, but behaviors as well) exclusively on the XY gene, and is the Y copy of that gene always dominant?

Goldeneye007: Hmm, ask your parents if you're allowed to read this:
AIS (new window)

This dude suffers from a DSM listed Gender Identity Disorder, if he was treated as a child he could have benefited greatly, there's a 90%+ cure rate, the vast majority of little boys that want to mangle their genitals grow up to be healthy gay adult male and safe from the risks of unnecessary surgery and hormones at inappropriate dosages. ( for more info google the Village Voice article See Tom be Jane)

Unfortunately there is a cult-like community of enablers that are like very much like Scientologists in more ways their one; particularly in their vicious character assassinations of anybody that points the double standard for mentally ill men claiming to be women vs the mentally ill claiming to be historical figures.

beoswulf: the vast majority of little boys that want to mangle their genitals grow up to be healthy gay adult male

you're assuming these boys grow into men who have any sexual interest in men.