Subby doesn't know what "half-naked" means (though that statue is a bit creepy). Also, except for the self-aggrandizing royal stuff, it's not particularly bizarre.

Robert1966: Subby doesn't know what "half-naked" means (though that statue is a bit creepy). Also, except for the self-aggrandizing royal stuff, it's not particularly bizarre.

Don't bother. There are some people around here who are narrow-minded and bigoted, and who believe everything Diane Diamond and Gloria Aldred tell them on Court TV.

cool link. Interesting look at the mind of Michael Jackson

Barnacles!: cool link. Interesting look at the mind of Michael Jackson

i'd say

What a beautiful house with "secret" rooms.

The life-size Lego Darth Vader owns.

/and the house is gorgeous

He should have hired some neighborhood kids to pull those weeds.

looking at pic 1-12, Is it me or the place looked kinda depressing and badly lit?

Ladies and Gentlemen: NAMBLA's corporate retreat.

It may be neat but there's no way I'm clicking through 42 pages.

Neverland in its heyday:


Neverland today:


/no carnival rides for you. Not yours.

subby: Includes obligatory half-naked young boy statue and some of the most bizarre MJ-themed 'art' you'll see, well, ever


That's ignorant.

I think the emptiness of the place is very ...symbolic.

what a sad sad life he led. I can almost see him begging to be put down now.

How many children's souls are forever locked behind that door?

Walker: Neverland today:

/no carnival rides for you. Not yours.

I can has the go-kart track?

...oh my. I can't decide if that's awesome or kind of sad looking.

thenateman: He should have hired some neighborhood kids to pull those weeds.

That railroad house makes me sad.

But the Star Wars stuff is nice!

Kind of hard to feel sorry for the guy for being bankrupt when he had all that shiat.

That prick had a Han Colo in carbonite? Bastard.

elvis in 24 makes me laugh and cringe at the same time.

Solo

He had rooms with wall to wall carpeting and hallways with windows!

Like Elvis, for a guy with so much money he sure had lousy decorating sense.

Oh and that Han Solo carbonite thing you could pick up at FAO Schwarz for like $5k. Big frickin' deal.

DarthBrooks: Like Elvis, for a guy with so much money he sure had lousy decorating sense.

no way, that house is gorgeous.

but i'll agree with others; all the emptiness is pretty sad.

leahruthie: no way, that house is gorgeous.

but i'll agree with others; all the emptiness is pretty sad.

Imagine that Tudor style house full of plastic Superman statues and then tell me all about MJ's fashion acuity.

Ah, a Star Wars fan. They're all weirdos.

/Trekkie

DarthBrooks: Oh and that Han Solo carbonite thing you could pick up at FAO Schwarz for like $5k. Big frickin' deal.

Yeah! Chump change!

gadian: Ah, a Star Wars fan. They're all weirdos.

/Trekkie

You mean the vast migration of star wars fans?




/hot like 25 star generals

What Neverland looks like now:

The house itself looks wonderful. The man certainly had an eclectic taste. Reminds me a bit of Sir Walter Scott's home, Abbotsford, which is filled to the brim with all sorts of crap.

The actual house is surprisingly banal. Some parts are odd (the railroad section), but the rest looks to be pretty generic. Could put them in a slideshow saying these are from mansions and castles in Europe, and not be out of place. Definitely not something I'd associate with a man-child.

The toys, yeah, man-child. Though to be honest, not nearly as creepy as I expected. Star Wars stuff? If I had millions of dollars, I'd get a crapload of that stuff too. Motorcycle and Rolls Royce are a few things that any rich man might have, man-child or not. Most of the portraits are more narcissistic than immature - Jackson as the King and the Prince? They don't scream out man-child, by themselves at least.

Really, I'm surprised at the banality of most of those pictures. I honestly expected, particularly after the creepy statue at the beginning, that it would descend into madness and depravity. But that first slide is the only one that fits the bill - the rest are boring.

The name of the website it will be sold on? E-Boy.

It's a bizarre mix of English Tudor and Disneyland. I think that's what bothers me about it. It looks like a movie set, where everything is fake, like you could peek around the corner and see it's all an illusion. It's what a child pretending to be a grownup would choose.

I don't think the man even liked any of his possessions, he just bought them to have them.

Anybody else catch the spelling mistake in the URL?

ZOMG A FULL SIZE TUB!!!

Barnacles!: cool link. Interesting look at the mind of Michael Jackson

I came across an article last week about his child molestation court case. A group of court-appointed psychiatrists basically said that Jackson had the mind of a 10-yo. He wasn't having sex w/the kids--he was just surrounding himself with like-minded individuals.

Seeing these pictures, I'm inclined to agree.

The house is gorgeous. The amusement park ruins and train track need demolition, as does all the MJ royalty crap. What a narcissist.

Of course, this has more value with the MJ memorabilia to whichever Arabic oil sheikh is going to buy it, so I'd imagine all that'll stay.


The auction photographers seem to have confused the unique things (MJ was sculpture, glove, awards) with the junk (most of those sculptures look like Sharper Image stuff).

Anybody else catch the spelling mistake in the URL?

Wow. I'd say the fact that the same 'error' appears TWICE means someone at the Daily News has a sense of humor.

I'm a fan of Michael Jackon, I have "HItory" on CD

MJ without makeup?

cretinbob 2009-07-04 01:13:52 PM
what a sad sad life he led. I can almost see him begging to be put down now.

Came in to say essentially THIS.

I think he committed suicide.

Look, I'm not a fan, don't worship him, blah blah blah but not too much of a hater either and after reading all I have over the past week and seeing the interviews I have come to the conclusion that he REALLY didn't want to grow up/become an adult.

I saw a clip last night on ABC and with the make-up he looks to be in his mid 20s and he was 50.

The guy was a washed up, broke, pedophiliac drug addict with very deep mental health issues.

Doing the shows in London was going to force him to deal with at some of his responsibilities and he didn't want to do and killed himself.

Another aspect is that he was committing suicide in slow motion, over the couse of the past 20 years.

E.T. phone gift

The good life was wasted on that douchenozzle.
Pictures of yourself? Good grief, Charlie Brown.

I think Neverland Ranch should be turned into a museum, and serve as a monument to human madness. Kind of like the Winchester house in San Jose.

/still need to go there one of these days

So when does this stuff go up for auction?

SupremeLeader: Cameron_Talley: The house itself looks wonderful. The man certainly had an eclectic taste. Reminds me a bit of Sir Walter Scott's home, Abbotsford, which is filled to the brim with all sorts of crap.

Did he pretend to kill Michael Paine for sleeping with his wife?

No, but Scott did go broke and was in debt in the end....

What a lonely man he must have been. I've always felt sorry for Michael Jackson - he just seemed so endlessly unhappy.



But man, I totally want those Scissorhands!

And I think the 'iconic white glove' will be going for more than $15k. A lot more.

anfrind: I think Neverland Ranch should be turned into a museum, and serve as a monument to human madness. Kind of like the Winchester house in San Jose.

Few things can compare to the Winchester house when it comes to monuments to madness. I would have loved to have seen it before the 1906 earthquake.

\The ghosts of Indians your father helped kill want you to build a magnificent mansion.
\\Really, they do.

To The Escape Zeppelin! Few things can compare to the Winchester house when it comes to monuments to madness. I would have loved to have seen it before the 1906 earthquake.

Went a few years ago. Its still a neat tour. Stairwells to a wall, 2nd story doors that open to air, etc.

I drove by the Neverland ranch back in 2005 when the trial was going on to check out the media circus. What stuck me as creepy was that there was a boarding school for boys across the street to the entrance, plus it was kind of out in the middle of nowhere.

He had the scissor hands from Edward Scissorhands. That's f*cking awesome.

It would be incredible if we could retrace all the times that we lived here
All the collisions
Wasted, I've never been so wasted
I've never been this far out before

Perimeter walk
There's a presence here
I feel could have been ancient, I could have been mystical

There's a presence
A childhood, my childhood
My childhood, childhood
A misplaced childhood
My childhood, a misplaced childhood
Give it back to me, give it back to me
A childhood, that childhood, that childhood, that childhood, that childhood
Oh please give it back to me

tchamber: Robert1966: Subby doesn't know what "half-naked" means (though that statue is a bit creepy). Also, except for the self-aggrandizing royal stuff, it's not particularly bizarre.

Don't bother. There are some people around here who are narrow-minded and bigoted, and who believe everything Diane Diamond and Gloria Aldred tell them on Court TV.

Ditto. I know this is Fark and all, but a statue of what appears to be a leprechaun /= a "half-naked young boy."

To The Escape Zeppelin!: anfrind: I think Neverland Ranch should be turned into a museum, and serve as a monument to human madness. Kind of like the Winchester house in San Jose.

Few things can compare to the Winchester house when it comes to monuments to madness. I would have loved to have seen it before the 1906 earthquake.

\The ghosts of Indians your father helped kill want you to build a magnificent mansion.
\\Really, they do.

I frankly was disappointed in the Winchester house. I visited a few years back and, aside from some tight spaces and poor design, it wasn't terribly interesting. I nearly walked out halfway through the tour.

WFern: tchamber: Robert1966: Subby doesn't know what "half-naked" means (though that statue is a bit creepy). Also, except for the self-aggrandizing royal stuff, it's not particularly bizarre.

Don't bother. There are some people around here who are narrow-minded and bigoted, and who believe everything Diane Diamond and Gloria Aldred tell them on Court TV.

Ditto. I know this is Fark and all, but a statue of what appears to be a leprechaun /= a "half-naked young boy."

This.

Also, I thought the statue was of was Huck Finn.

A friend of mine showed me the picture of Michael being knighted a while back, and all I could think of was, "Knights of Solamnia, represent." :D Also, it makes sense for him to collect stuff like that of himself, as it is memorabilia and hence probably worth something.

MJ paid 19.5 Million for that???


waste of money.

while it is interesting to see the inside of his (very beautiful) house, this (new window) is the auction company's full catalog, which i'd say is definitely worth a lookthrough. the sheer quantity of stuff is crazy, let alone the creepy life-sized statues of adults, etc.

anfrind: I think Neverland Ranch should be turned into a museum, and serve as a monument to human madness. Kind of like the Winchester house in San Jose.

/still need to go there one of these days

The house in TFA was big enough and weird enough (at least from those camera angles) that it was reminding me of the Winchester house, actually.

And I'll recommend the Winchester house tour. True, it's just a regular Queen Anne style house, just like houses all over the US Midwest including my neighborhood, so it's probably more exotic to Californians who don't have so much of that style around.

HOWEVER, while it's "just an ordinary house," it's about 10 minutes into it when you realize that you're walking down more hallways that you've NEVER SEEN YET, and you've been walking for a solid 10 minutes at a pretty quick pace. The sheer SIZE of the place is staggering - it's like a maze. Plus, all those hallways are full of amazing built-in shelves and drawers and all of it.

That's even before you get to some of the truly bizarre features of the house like stairs which go to nowhere, cabinets which open to become stairs, spy holes so the owner could look down on the first floor kitchen workers from the third floor, etc etc ETC.

If you like crazy architecture or just surreal stuff, it's worth it. Very weird house.

Ignorant McNugget


+1 cool point for you, my good man.

Entity79:
+1 cool point for you, my good man.

And I'm sending that +1 right back at you for recognizing it. That entire album seems creepily prescient now...

"Includes obligatory half-naked young boy statue" Wait, which half of the boy is naked, the top half or the bottom half? With Michael Jackson you never known.

lasercannon: "Includes obligatory half-naked young boy statue" Wait, which half of the boy is naked, the top half or the bottom half? With Michael Jackson you never known.

I always thought the shirt with no pants look was tacky on guys. You're either half-ready for sex or totally unprepared to cook bacon.

To The Escape Zeppelin!: lasercannon: "Includes obligatory half-naked young boy statue" Wait, which half of the boy is naked, the top half or the bottom half? With Michael Jackson you never known.

I always thought the shirt with no pants look was tacky on guys. You're either half-ready for sex or totally unprepared to cook bacon.

Or completely ready to have sex with bacon?

brigid_fitch: Barnacles!: cool link. Interesting look at the mind of Michael Jackson

I came across an article last week about his child molestation court case. A group of court-appointed psychiatrists basically said that Jackson had the mind of a 10-yo. He wasn't having sex w/the kids--he was just surrounding himself with like-minded individuals.

Seeing these pictures, I'm inclined to agree.

this.

To The Escape Zeppelin!: I always thought the shirt with no pants look was tacky on guys. You're either half-ready for sex or totally unprepared to cook bacon.

Fark needs a comment of the day feature.

thenateman: He should have hired some neighborhood kids to pull those weeds.

"Those weeds" was his nickname for his junk.

I don't see how this is 'creepy'.

Heck, if I had the money I'd build an amusement park, too.

Khazar-Khum: I don't see how this is 'creepy'.

Heck, if I had the money I'd build an amusement park, too.


That. is. creepy. CREEPY!!!

Khazar-Khum: I don't see how this is 'creepy'.

Heck, if I had the money I'd build an amusement park, too.

It becomes creepy within the context of his other actions. Your own park would be awesome, but when the people you invite are unescorted 10 yo boys, questions start to be raised.

Reminds me of Tom Hanks's apartment in Big. Not surprising.

AtomPeepers: Khazar-Khum: I don't see how this is 'creepy'.

Heck, if I had the money I'd build an amusement park, too.


That. is. creepy. CREEPY!!!


Return this man to Huma's breast
Beyond the wild, impartial skies;
Grant to him a warrior's rest
And set the last spark of his eyes
Free from the smothering clouds of wars,
Upon the torches of stars.
Let the last surge of his breath
Take refuge in the cradling air
Above the dreams of ravens, where
Only the hawk remembers death.
Then let his shade to Huma rise,
Beyond the wild, impartial skies.

/What?

is it just me or does the "half naked yong boy" look more like a leprechaun then a kid ?

This is creepy, period. It's like the tourtured souls of the children coming out of Freddy's Kruger / Michael Jackson , Freddy Jackon... doesn't sound right does it? Let's keep him branded Michael Jackson, but with the Freddy Souls thing.

I tell my Mom I think he was a Pederast, and maybe not too much molestion, or *sigh* don't talk ill of the dead. I'll just remember the good stuff up until "Bad" ~ and leave the rest as his "Fat Elvis" period.

We do need a black Michael Jackson, as Freddy Krueger movie folks.

/Too soon?

leahruthie: brigid_fitch: Barnacles!: cool link. Interesting look at the mind of Michael Jackson

I came across an article last week about his child molestation court case. A group of court-appointed psychiatrists basically said that Jackson had the mind of a 10-yo. He wasn't having sex w/the kids--he was just surrounding himself with like-minded individuals.

Seeing these pictures, I'm inclined to agree.

this.

Ditto on that. I read a similar article which included statements from one of the psychologists who examined both Jackson and the child. He essentially claimed that Jackson didn't fit the profile of a pedophile. He did, however, fit that of a regressed child.

WFern: I read a similar article which included statements from one of the psychologists who examined both Jackson and the child. He essentially claimed that Jackson didn't fit the profile of a pedophile. He did, however, fit that of a regressed child.

Yea, that's pretty much what I think, but he might have gotten a little touchy/bad place with rock-star access to vicodin and Jesus juice... and paying for day long shopping sprees for all...

But I don't want to go there. He was abused by his dad, and clearly not a dangerous, you lock up, pedo. He was in his own private hell these days. He just got out before the July heat.

I shall launch rockets in your honor Mr. Jackson!

That house looks like it needs some serious updating. I don't think he's done anything to it since he bought it in 1988. Needs brightening up or something.

AtomPeepers:
I shall launch rockets in your honor Mr. Jackson!

So that's what North Korea was doing this morning.

The house is very depressing to me. The goofy shiat? Meh. We all have goofy shiat.

AtomPeepers: ...I'll just remember the good stuff up until "Bad" ~ and leave the rest as his "Fat Elvis" period...

Come on, he was good as recently as Scream. He was in Howard Hughes territory by that point, but his music was still good.

AtomPeepers: Yea, that's pretty much what I think, but he might have gotten a little touchy/bad place with rock-star access to vicodin and Jesus juice... and paying for day long shopping sprees for all...

But I don't want to go there. He was abused by his dad, and clearly not a dangerous, you lock up, pedo. He was in his own private hell these days. He just got out before the July heat.

I shall launch rockets in your honor Mr. Jackson!

After seeing Joe's reaction in that video after Michael's death, I can't imagine ever growing up with a father like that.

WFern: I can't imagine ever growing up with a father like that.



kinda says it all

WFern: AtomPeepers: ...I'll just remember the good stuff up until "Bad" ~ and leave the rest as his "Fat Elvis" period...

Come on, he was good as recently as Scream. He was in Howard Hughes territory by that point, but his music was still good.

AtomPeepers: Yea, that's pretty much what I think, but he might have gotten a little touchy/bad place with rock-star access to vicodin and Jesus juice... and paying for day long shopping sprees for all...

But I don't want to go there. He was abused by his dad, and clearly not a dangerous, you lock up, pedo. He was in his own private hell these days. He just got out before the July heat.

I shall launch rockets in your honor Mr. Jackson!

After seeing Joe's reaction in that video after Michael's death, I can't imagine ever growing up with a father like that.

I just feel so badly for him. It's like he never got past the difficult parts of his childhood. And yes, his music was still good. I'm revisiting a lot of his later stuff right now (yay mp3 downloads from Amazon) and I am sad we'll never see his comeback.

WhyteRaven74: WFern: I can't imagine ever growing up with a father like that.



kinda says it all

D:

Just.....gahhh. D: It really does say it all.

numb3r5ev3n: Just.....gahhh. D: It really does say it all.

Pretty much going to be death what he was in his early life sadly, or at least Joe hopes he will be.

WhyteRaven74: numb3r5ev3n: Just.....gahhh. D: It really does say it all.

Pretty much going to be death what he was in his early life sadly, or at least Joe hopes he will be.

I am soooo glad the kids are either going to Michael's mom or Diana Ross instead.

DarthBrooks: Like Elvis, for a guy with so much money he sure had lousy decorating sense.

EVERYBODY had lousy decorating sense in the 70's.

SwingingJohnson: DarthBrooks: Like Elvis, for a guy with so much money he sure had lousy decorating sense.

EVERYBODY had lousy decorating sense in the 70's.

Are you nuts? Pedestal ashtrays are the farking bomb.

Lost Thought 00: So when does this stuff go up for auction?

The auction was canceled just before he died. Strange coincidence.

numb3r5ev3n: I am soooo glad the kids are either going to Michael's mom or Diana Ross instead.

I suspect a couple courthouses in California would suffer structural failure from the rush of lawyers showing up if Joe was to get the kids. Not that the lawyers would be showing up on behalf of specific people, but just to keep the kids away from Joe.

SwingingJohnson: EVERYBODY had lousy decorating sense in the 70's.

Wow. That almost looks as bad as the mobile home my parents bought four years ago.

Fortunately, they fixed it up and gave it a much nicer "Rivendell" style of decor.

SwingingJohnson: DarthBrooks: Like Elvis, for a guy with so much money he sure had lousy decorating sense.

EVERYBODY had lousy decorating sense in the 70's.

Hey, how'd you get into my in-law's house?

I want that kitchen

numb3r5ev3n: WhyteRaven74: numb3r5ev3n: Just.....gahhh. D: It really does say it all.

Pretty much going to be death what he was in his early life sadly, or at least Joe hopes he will be.

I am soooo glad the kids are either going to Michael's mom or Diana Ross instead.

Why can't the mother have the kids? They are her kids after all and her agreement was with Michael. If he's not around, isn't the mother the next in line? I'm not being snide, I'm truly asking why mom(s) isn't/aren't around.

gadian: numb3r5ev3n: WhyteRaven74: numb3r5ev3n: Just.....gahhh. D: It really does say it all.

Pretty much going to be death what he was in his early life sadly, or at least Joe hopes he will be.

I am soooo glad the kids are either going to Michael's mom or Diana Ross instead.

Why can't the mother have the kids? They are her kids after all and her agreement was with Michael. If he's not around, isn't the mother the next in line? I'm not being snide, I'm truly asking why mom(s) isn't/aren't around.

I'm hearing that either Debbie Rowe is either not trying to get custody, or she is. I'm really not sure what's going on there.

/Feels guilty for following the media circus anyway.

some pretty cool shiat
/nerd

numb3r5ev3n: WFern: AtomPeepers: ...I'll just remember the good stuff up until "Bad" ~ and leave the rest as his "Fat Elvis" period...

Come on, he was good as recently as Scream. He was in Howard Hughes territory by that point, but his music was still good.

AtomPeepers: Yea, that's pretty much what I think, but he might have gotten a little touchy/bad place with rock-star access to vicodin and Jesus juice... and paying for day long shopping sprees for all...

But I don't want to go there. He was abused by his dad, and clearly not a dangerous, you lock up, pedo. He was in his own private hell these days. He just got out before the July heat.

I shall launch rockets in your honor Mr. Jackson!

After seeing Joe's reaction in that video after Michael's death, I can't imagine ever growing up with a father like that.

I just feel so badly for him. It's like he never got past the difficult parts of his childhood. And yes, his music was still good. I'm revisiting a lot of his later stuff right now (yay mp3 downloads from Amazon) and I am sad we'll never see his comeback.

I can see Gary Coleman walking on screen after a biopic on Jackson, smoking a blunt and saying "At what cost childhood?"...

/Joe Jackson f*cked him up bad Willis, this is gonna be a hell of a special episode.

/RIP, Oh Vincent Price in Thriller Man. Sleep the sleep of the Captain Eo ~ or something... the ecstacy is working!

I find it hard to imagine Michael Jacksons personal first edition of Peter Pam was estimated to go for a maximum of one hundred dollars.

gayb: He had the scissor hands from Edward Scissorhands. That's f*cking awesome.

A friend of mine bought all the miniature sets and puppets from Nightmare Before Christmas. That is obsession.

Yes, I will be taking a shot a bidding for the "scissor hands from Edward Scissorhands" myself.

GAME ON!

2k? less? u think or more farkers? I sure wouldn't pay more than 2k tops, and that's Johnny Depp and Tim Burton, starring with Vincent "Egghead" Price dammit.

////Let me have my scissorhands!!! s.l.a.s.h.

MJ had the money and access to get the best psychological help out there to deal with his problems. He failed to do so.
He didn't pursue any kind of education. I'm not sure any of those Jackson children did.
While I don't think he actually sexually abused any children, he acted inappropriately with them.

/hard to dredge up sympathy for a grown man who didn't try to get help for himself.
//but for all I know, he may have.

just got this and definitely worth it.

http://02d992c.netsolstores.com/captaineodvd.aspx

Extinct Attractions club.

sbrister: I want that kitchen

THIS. I saw the pictures of the house somewhere and that's the first thing I thought.

And fark Joe Jackson for turning a huge talent into a self-hating freak.

The interior of the small "secret room" with three deadbolt locks used by Jackson to store valuable items.

Does it strike anyone else as strange that the deadbolts are on the OUTSIDE of this door? who or what was he locking in there... ? generally deadbolts on the outside of a door are to lock something inside that has the ability to open said door...

doctorwormwood: The interior of the small "secret room" with three deadbolt locks used by Jackson to store valuable items.

Does it strike anyone else as strange that the deadbolts are on the OUTSIDE of this door? who or what was he locking in there... ? generally deadbolts on the outside of a door are to lock something inside that has the ability to open said door...

No, it's not strange at all. Look who we're talking about.

SwingingJohnson: EVERYBODY had lousy decorating sense in the 70's.

"Lousy"? That's awesome!

Like the impulsive earthy atmosphere more than the brand-loyalist faux-corporate track lighting and barren suburban soullessness that's been in vogue since Gordon Gecko.

/which would you rather fark in? You could tear some pussy up on that crazy green carpet!

doctorwormwood: The interior of the small "secret room"

Does it strike anyone else as strange that the deadbolts are on the OUTSIDE of this door?

I took this to mean that this is a shot of the door from the inside of the room, and the outside presumably is blended in or obscured from view.

/All this crazy expensive shiat all over the property and there is still a need for a secret room for "valuables"?

doctorwormwood: The interior of the small "secret room" with three deadbolt locks used by Jackson to store valuable items.

Does it strike anyone else as strange that the deadbolts are on the OUTSIDE of this door? who or what was he locking in there... ? generally deadbolts on the outside of a door are to lock something inside that has the ability to open said door...

Uhhh, Dude? thats the inside of the room in the photo.
So, yeah, all of the handles for the deadbolts would be on that side.......and the keyholes would be on the other side.

John Buck 41: doctorwormwood: The interior of the small "secret room" with three deadbolt locks used by Jackson to store valuable items.

Does it strike anyone else as strange that the deadbolts are on the OUTSIDE of this door? who or what was he locking in there... ? generally deadbolts on the outside of a door are to lock something inside that has the ability to open said door...

No, it's not strange at all. Look who we're talking about.



He only used it once a month, anyway...

So THATS what a buttload of money and no accountability look like....

For such a great creative artist, his imagination seems limited.

/you know what I'm talking about

glompoc: I drove by the Neverland ranch back in 2005 when the trial was going on to check out the media circus. What stuck me as creepy was that there was a boarding school for boys across the street to the entrance, plus it was kind of out in the middle of nowhere.

Not just for boys, girls go there also:

http://www.midland-school.org/

They're pretty hard core students, not much to worry about from ol MJ. The classrooms all have three walls with one side open to the outside.

gadian: numb3r5ev3n: WhyteRaven74: numb3r5ev3n: Just.....gahhh. D: It really does say it all.

Pretty much going to be death what he was in his early life sadly, or at least Joe hopes he will be.

I am soooo glad the kids are either going to Michael's mom or Diana Ross instead.

Why can't the mother have the kids? They are her kids after all and her agreement was with Michael. If he's not around, isn't the mother the next in line? I'm not being snide, I'm truly asking why mom(s) isn't/aren't around.

She didn't keep the receipt when she sold them to MJ.

John Buck 41: doctorwormwood: The interior of the small "secret room" with three deadbolt locks used by Jackson to store valuable items.
Does it strike anyone else as strange that the deadbolts are on the OUTSIDE of this door? who or what was he locking in there... ? generally deadbolts on the outside of a door are to lock something inside that has the ability to open said door...

No, it's not strange at all. Look who we're talking about.

Exactly what I thought. You can't hold MJ to one standard when you're deciding that he's a pedophile (he's perfectly normal, except he diddled kids), and ignore that he did a lot of other very weird things that probably had nothing to do with diddling kids.

Like paying off the kid who accused him in the first place--weird behavior, makes him look guilty? of course. Weird behavior that would go along with him having the emotional maturity of a 10-year-old, tons of money, and a terror of having his private life exposed? Yeah, that too. It may not NOT make him a pedophile, but it might explain why he'd do that even if he wasn't guilty.

gadian: Ah, a Star Wars fan. They're all weirdos.

/Trekkie

HappyHarryHardOn: looking at pic 1-12, Is it me or the place looked kinda depressing and badly lit?

I never went for the faux Bavarian Castle look. Especially in Cali. It's in such a beautiful spot but the house looks dark and small, like some mouldy theme restaurant with a suit of armor by the door and lots of cabbage on the menu. Of course, he never struck me as a sun worshipper, so the darkness may have been intentional. Does anyone know if the house was there when he bought the land, or if he had it built?

Fano: What Neverland looks like now:

HAHAHA I totally thought of this image when I heard he died. Clown face rusting in the weeds, all the children are safe at home.

To The Escape Zeppelin!: It's a bizarre mix of English Tudor and Disneyland. I think that's what bothers me about it. It looks like a movie set, where everything is fake, like you could peek around the corner and see it's all an illusion. It's what a child pretending to be a grownup would choose.

I don't think the man even liked any of his possessions, he just bought them to have them.

I remember some show about him that showed him in Vegas with the veiled children. He waled into the tackiest tourist trap store packed full of fake sarcophagus lids, fake marble statues, gold plated everything and basically walked around going, " I want that, I want that, I want that, I want 2 of those, I want that, I want that......". He bought enough in one 5 min. spree to fill half that house. Of course the store staff just smiled an nodded the whole time. I wonder if he actually got 1/2 the stuff he pointed at? I'm sure he was charged for it.

itazurakko: anfrind: I think Neverland Ranch should be turned into a museum, and serve as a monument to human madness. Kind of like the Winchester house in San Jose.

/still need to go there one of these days

The house in TFA was big enough and weird enough (at least from those camera angles) that it was reminding me of the Winchester house, actually.

And I'll recommend the Winchester house tour. True, it's just a regular Queen Anne style house, just like houses all over the US Midwest including my neighborhood, so it's probably more exotic to Californians who don't have so much of that style around.

HOWEVER, while it's "just an ordinary house," it's about 10 minutes into it when you realize that you're walking down more hallways that you've NEVER SEEN YET, and you've been walking for a solid 10 minutes at a pretty quick pace. The sheer SIZE of the place is staggering - it's like a maze. Plus, all those hallways are full of amazing built-in shelves and drawers and all of it.

That's even before you get to some of the truly bizarre features of the house like stairs which go to nowhere, cabinets which open to become stairs, spy holes so the owner could look down on the first floor kitchen workers from the third floor, etc etc ETC.

If you like crazy architecture or just surreal stuff, it's worth it. Very weird house.

We call the house next door "the Winchester mansion" because the landlord is nuts and keeps adding more crap to it. First he put siding over it, then added brick trim over the siding. The siding covered half the windows up. One window was covered from inside, but not from the outside. The venetian blinds cooked in the summer sun. A few days ago we noticed he'd finally covered the dead window from the outside.

Inside, everything has been covered in "texture". The electrical socket plates, light switch plates, toilet paper holders, and towel bars---all covered in the texture of a popcorn ceiling. An entire bathroom and laundry nook have been walled over / in. Oh, and he's added barnwood trim to blank walls. He's a loon.

gadian: numb3r5ev3n: WhyteRaven74: numb3r5ev3n: Just.....gahhh. D: It really does say it all.

Pretty much going to be death what he was in his early life sadly, or at least Joe hopes he will be.

I am soooo glad the kids are either going to Michael's mom or Diana Ross instead.

Why can't the mother have the kids? They are her kids after all and her agreement was with Michael. If he's not around, isn't the mother the next in line? I'm not being snide, I'm truly asking why mom(s) isn't/aren't around.

She signed custody rights away.

atomic-age:
Inside, everything has been covered in "texture". The electrical socket plates, light switch plates, toilet paper holders, and towel bars---all covered in the texture of a popcorn ceiling. An entire bathroom and laundry nook have been walled over / in. Oh, and he's added barnwood trim to blank walls. He's a loon.

I WANT TO GO THERE.

Holy crap

Holy crap

Holy crap

Holeeeee crap

Max Awesome: atomic-age:
Inside, everything has been covered in "texture". The electrical socket plates, light switch plates, toilet paper holders, and towel bars---all covered in the texture of a popcorn ceiling. An entire bathroom and laundry nook have been walled over / in. Oh, and he's added barnwood trim to blank walls. He's a loon.

I WANT TO GO THERE.

It's pretty unspectacular. I could probably take some photos for you though.