"Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke share 33 of the same cancer-causing compounds, according to agency scientists."

Yes...and most tobacco smokers smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. I don't know of anyone that smokes 20 joints in a day.

How about if you're feeding that medicine into a Tornado vape? Or baking cookies? Because smoking is but one of many intake methods.

PacManDreaming: "Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke share 33 of the same cancer-causing compounds, according to agency scientists."

Yes...and most tobacco smokers smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. I don't know of anyone that smokes 20 joints in a day.

Heh. I'd introduce you to some of my friends if they could remember who they were ;)

Occam's Chainsaw: Because smoking is but one the worst of many intake methods.

Headline: "Calif. Regulators Warn of Pot's Cancer Capability"

I have an idea for some jobs that might be cut to save money.

Any burned vegetable matter contains cancer-causing chemicals.

Remember that when you add the hickory chips to your barbecue.

said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

Federal health and drug enforcement officials have widely used Tashkin's previous work on marijuana to make the case that the drug is dangerous. Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful, its cancer-causing effects appear to be of less concern than previously thought.

Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.

Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.

They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.

Newsflash: Inhaling smoke from burning plant matter causes cancer!

/file under "duh"
//vaporize, man, vaporize!

Granted, the insufficiently conclusive research is an obvious reason to remain concerned, but I'll allow it. I salute you, submitter.

I smoke pot because it helps me forget about all of the things that can cause cancer.

/not really

Occam's Chainsaw: How about if you're feeding that medicine into a Tornado vape? Or baking cookies? Because smoking is but one of many intake methods.

Yeah, what this guy said. People have to try so hard to find something truly unhealthy about marijuana, that they forget you don't even have to smoke it to get the THC into your body.

Stay the fark off my body, government.

If Billy Bob next door can legally down 24 Natty-Ices per day, while eating his Triple Whopper with extra, while smoking his unfiltered cigarettes, I really don't see what the huge fuss is about smoking a J now and then.

extra mayo

WALMART.saves: Stay the fark off my body, government.

If Billy Bob next door can legally down 24 Natty-IcesLight per day, while eating his Triple Whopper with extra, while smoking his unfiltered cigarettes, I really don't see what the huge fuss is about smoking a J now and then.

Billy Bob is on a diet, doctors order

PacManDreaming: "Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke share 33 of the same cancer-causing compounds, according to agency scientists."

Yes...and most tobacco smokers smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. I don't know of anyone that smokes 20 joints in a day.

Not to mention the boatloads of research we've all seen about how despite having cancer causing agents it has a negative correlation with cancer numbers.

prove it Mr. I Work for the DEA & got paid to say this.

ZAZ: Headline: "Calif. Regulators Warn of Pot's Cancer Capability"

I have an idea for some jobs that might be cut to save money.

Seems these guys gotta cause a stink to justify their jobs?


But I bet the so called risks of getting cancer from pot is not a worry of someone suffering from the effects of cancer and chemotherapy. Oh, radiation therapy too.


/not a smoker

In California, where marijuana used medicinally, regulators now warn of it's cancer capability

Sentence fail.

There is no link between smoking marijuana and lung cancer. (new window) However smoking it is stupid as most of the links to other articles point out. Vaporise or ingest it.

Everything
Everything gives you cancer
Everything
Everything gives you cancer
There's no cure, there's no answer
Everything gives you cancer
Don't touch that dial
Don't try to smile
Just take this pill
It's in your file
Don't work hard
Don't play hard
Don't plan for the graveyard
Remember -
Everything
Everything gives you cancer
Everything
Everything gives you cancer
There's no cure, there's no answer
Everything gives you cancer
Don't work by night
Don't play by day
You'll feel all right
But you will pay
No caffeine
No protein
No booze or
Nicotine
Remember -

Joe Jackson

Newsflash: You're all going to die of something. Your kids will too.

PacManDreaming: Yes...and most tobacco smokers smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. I don't know of anyone that smokes 20 joints in a day.

You ever notice all of the Palin threads with over 1500 responses? Lots of 20+ a day people on this site. On the plus side they'll die sooner. Yay medical marijuana.

Who cares? In California, bread and potato chips cause cancer.

Ironic, but unfortunately, not unusual. Google "chemotherapy secondary cancer" to see why.

I call Bullsh*t.

Who funded the study?

DrRatchet: Ironic, but unfortunately, not unusual. Google "chemotherapy secondary cancer" to see why.

Came here to note this. I was on 6-MP for a while.

"It is used to treat leukemia. It is also used for pediatric non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, polycythemia vera, psoriatic arthritis, and inflammatory bowel disease (such as Crohn's disease and ulcerative colitis)."

"Mercaptopurine causes changes to chromosomes in animals and humans. In mice these changes have given rise to lethal mutations. Therefore the drug has the potential to be cancer causing in humans."

/Yeah, I'd rather be eating pot brownies.

Kind of a stupid question but I'm curious....

Isn't nicotine the drug smokers get addicted to/want? Isn't there a way to get nicotine (I've never actually heard of nicotine causing problems) without smoking? I know you can chew tobacco, but that has some associated health problems too.

I mean, could you just chew nicotine gum, enjoy your buzz, and not really worry about cancer?

"If they want to classify marijuana smoke as carcinogenic, then that is true. It contains carcinogens," said Donald Tashkin, a longtime University of California, Los Angeles marijuana researcher who led the study. "That doesn't mean it causes cancer."

Personally I don't really care either way on this issue...but I'm curious, how does he define carcinogenic other than "causes cancer"?

SO WHAT??

AT LEAST IT DOES SOMETHING, GETS YOU HIGH.

UNLIKE CIGARETTES.

davynelson: SO WHAT??

AT LEAST IT DOES SOMETHING, GETS YOU HIGH.

UNLIKE CIGARETTES.

Apparently it also causes you to make shiatty music and type in all caps.

El Freak: davynelson: SO WHAT??

AT LEAST IT DOES SOMETHING, GETS YOU HIGH.

UNLIKE CIGARETTES.

Apparently it also causes you to make shiatty music and type in all caps.

Then you need to take ALL of your CDs and music files,

and get rid of them.

Because almost all of those musicians.....

rrrrrrrrrreally f*ckin high on drugs.

Or drunk as sh*t

Fark_Guy_Rob:
I mean, could you just chew nicotine gum, enjoy your buzz, and not really worry about cancer?

Yeah their are transdermal patches, lozenges and now a hand lotion. There is a large psychological aspect as well, as well as just "ritual" bits that people get used to. Been a smoker for almost 20 years, my last attempt was fairly successful until a bunch of stuff went down. Patches for the physical, and sunflower seeds for the "ritual".

When ever I fly long distance, I usually slap on a patch so I am not homicidal by the time we land.

cannabinoids (*pdf)
their boiling points and what they do to the body.

I prefer the Tom Green exercise for cancer prevention (new window).

Fark_Guy_Rob: Kind of a stupid question but I'm curious.... [C]ould you just chew nicotine gum, enjoy your buzz, and not really worry about cancer?

A quick spin through google and wikipedia shows that nicotine contributes to problems such as atherosclerosis. So yes, "plain nicotine" can hurt you.

The major component of the "feel good" high of your first few nicotine doses is due to it screwing with your body's dopamine chemistry. But your body does NOT approve of this, and it stops making as much dopamine. So to get back to the NORMAL level of dopamine, you have to smoke.

Result: a powerful craving and little to no "high." Ask a smoker, they'll confirm that they stopped getting "high" really fast, and their feelings alternate between REALLY craving a cigarette, NOT craving a cigarette, and only craving one a little. I doubt this is what you want.

Also, nicotine is a mild stimulant. That's the other major "feel good" effect. But so is caffeine, with way fewer side effects and addiction problems! So stick to coffee.

Or go for the gusto and get real stimulants.

luckyeddie: Any burned vegetable matter contains cancer-causing chemicals.

Remember that when you add the hickory chips to your barbecue.

PacManDreaming: "Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke share 33 of the same cancer-causing compounds, according to agency scientists."

Yes...and most tobacco smokers smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. I don't know of anyone that smokes 20 joints in a day.

You should meet my neighbor.
Seriously dude, GET OFF YOUR LAZY POTHEAD ASS AND MOW YOUR DAMN LAWN!!!

Fark_Guy_Rob: Kind of a stupid question but I'm curious....

Isn't nicotine the drug smokers get addicted to/want? Isn't there a way to get nicotine (I've never actually heard of nicotine causing problems) without smoking? I know you can chew tobacco, but that has some associated health problems too.

I mean, could you just chew nicotine gum, enjoy your buzz, and not really worry about cancer?

NOPE. If not raising your risk of cancer is a concern of yours, Not One Puff/Pinch Ever.

If you want a nic fix without damaging your lungs, though, you can always go for patches, chew/dip, not inhaling the smoke (you still can get the nicotine through your gums) etc. But ALL forms of nicotine are highly addictive, and if you're looking to quit, don't just pass off your addiction to a different form. You wont end up out of your little nicotine cage.

Cannabis, however, isn't physically addictive. Anyone telling you that it is has never tried smoking it in mass quantities for years and then ceased entirely. There are no negative withdrawals. Unlike cigarettes. There are also great medical and industrial uses for the plant, and smoking it is absolutely not necessary, but a convenient way to quickly extract it's medicinal values at a minor risk. Eating cannabis takes up to an hour and a half to kick in. If it's smoked, the effects become noticed nearly immediately.

/Day 5 of my nicotine quit.
//I love how smokers and non-smokers always quarrel, yet all of them support ex-smokers.
///I'm not a doctor. If you take my anonymous internet ramblings as medical advice, perhaps you should remove some bats from your belfry.

PacManDreaming: Yes...and most tobacco smokers smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. I don't know of anyone that smokes 20 joints in a day.



The man says "Hey...man..."

xombie_a_go_go: PacManDreaming: "Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke share 33 of the same cancer-causing compounds, according to agency scientists."

Yes...and most tobacco smokers smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. I don't know of anyone that smokes 20 joints in a day.

You should meet my neighbor.
Seriously dude, GET OFF YOUR LAZY POTHEAD ASS AND MOW YOUR DAMN LAWN!!!

Take away that guys pot and he still won't mow his lawn. Why not blame it on his choice of clothing as well? Just as valid.

Well, if you already have cancer it doesn't matter much.

PacManDreaming: "Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke share 33 of the same cancer-causing compounds, according to agency scientists."

Yes...and most tobacco smokers smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. I don't know of anyone that smokes 20 joints in a day.

Also, it was my understanding that the main reason cigarettes cause so much cancer is that the tobacco plant is very good at picking up polonium isotopes from fertilizer. In other words cigarettes are sort of nook yoo ler.

Hey, you know what else causes cancer if you smoke it?

So?

Where's the obvious tag, known about this for about 15 years.

ck1938: PacManDreaming: Yes...and most tobacco smokers smoke 20+ cigarettes a day. I don't know of anyone that smokes 20 joints in a day.

You ever notice all of the Palin threads with over 1500 responses? Lots of 20+ a day people on this site. On the plus side they'll die sooner. Yay medical marijuana.

Do you know how much weed that is?

I am a heavy smoker of marijuana, for medicinal and now recreational purposes. I fully admit that. 20 joints in a day would put me in a coma.

For a person to overdose (and die) on THC, they would have to smoke three times their body weight in one sitting. Average male: 900 joints.

Nat'l Inst of Drug abuse considers a heavy smoker of marijuana to fall in the range of: 77 0.5g joints a week to 350 0.5g joints a week.

On the low end that breaks down to 11 joints a day (5.5g) on the upper end...rather the HIGH end, 50 joints a day (25g).

I used to think I fell into this category until I realized I only smoke 4g a day on average.