McAfee Enterprise Edition is good. Very good, in fact. I've got plenty of clients running it. Combined with ePolicy Orchestrator, it makes management very slick and hands-off.

Any other version of McAfee, though, is bad, bad, bad.

TheWizard: Looks like there is a lot of group-hate in here for McAfee.

Have you ever see what it does to computers after awhile? I'm speaking mostly of the pre-installed crap you get from an OEM computer. Like all of my friends/family bring me asking why nothing works.

Seriously, there's like 50 different McAfee programs running doing different things, eating memory like crazy. Norton is the same.

Look, just run a scan when the user isn't on the computer, kill any viruses, update daily, and do it all quietly. When you're not running a scan- go into some low-memory mode, ok?

For the work environment, I've always suggested Kaspersky. Of course, I've had to disable the user from interfering with the scans and such; due to the older hardware that they were using, they often canceled or disabled the daily scans and updates (which I scheduled to occur during their lunch break, yet they wanted to fark around on Myspace and such. That one, and all other social networking sites were blocked soon after), and it got so bad that when I ran each computer on a full scan after hours, I discovered shiatloads of viruses on our comptroller's computer, along with his large collection of kiddie pr0n. He lost his job, and my department got an increase of budget to upgrade all the hardware in the company.

For the home user, Avast or AVG.

I still like Avast myself.

My mom's computer came with Symantec/Norton pre-installed. One day, she called to say that her computer wouldn't connect to the internet anymore. It took me a while to finally figure out that when the trial subscription expires, it takes the internet connection with it EVEN AFTER IT IS UNINSTALLED. I had to use another computer to download software to remove the spoil-sport.

By the way, if anybody wants MS Security Essentials, you can't get it from Microsoft anymore, but you can get it HERE.

/now using Avast
//and ZoneAlarm (free) without the toolbar/spyware

Comcast gives McAfee away for free to its customers. This should be fun.

Alleyoop: It took me a while to finally figure out that when the trial subscription expires, it takes the internet connection with it EVEN AFTER IT IS UNINSTALLED. I had to use another computer to download software to remove the spoil-sport.

I'm actually going to be heading to a relative's house to do a 'nuke it from orbit' on her HD. After all the bloatware from Dell being installed and her son installing about 50 internet toolbars that "speed up your connection", her computer was running at the speed of snail.

Installing Win7 this afternoon.

I love Norman
www.norman.com. Yes there is a free demo.

Caeldan: Did Avast fall out of favour?
That's what I'm running in preference of AVG ever since they went to that new version that does all the web-site scanning and other stuff I didn't need.

Turning off a checkbox or two during the install process being WAY too complicated for you, of course.

My desktop has McAfee. I'm wondering if I should wait a few days before switching it on again.

Maddogjew: McAfee and Norton both suck giant donkey balls. That being said, this will put some money in my pocket from all the repair calls I'll get.

Marketing tip: You should be saying "McAfee and Norton are great! I recommend that everyone use it."

Why, oh, why is McAfee loved so much by big companies? I think it eats 100 megs of RAM on my work laptop.

Big fan of NOD 32 here; especially the way it updates several times a day vs what the others do.

If McAfee were a woman, she would be a short, obese, hairy troll that followed you around and stayed righ at your side. She would be counting the change in your pockets and bu,ping your elbow as you tried to type. She would remind you how many salories were in eveery snack you ate, and insist that you wipe twiee when you went number two. She would keep you from meeting new women, and fart in bed while you slept at 3 AM. She would charge you for these services, and remind you to pay her on a regular basis.

Mom?

earl_k: IT admins across the globe are letting out a collective groan after servers and PCs running McAfee VirusScan were brought down when the anti-virus program attack their core system files.

If you are an IT admin and you're running McAfee you are a dipshiat.

I came for this. That it was first makes me quite happy indeed.

I am afraid to mention this since no one has condemned it yet, but what about Trend Micro? I have been running it for two years and have not had any troubles. Is that bad, should I not be doing that?

As I read this, I hope my former co-workers are enjoying their 4th of July weekend. Too bad there is nobody in Canada anymore to help you through this eh? Don't worry, you can be there in 3 hours to fix any major problems.

My school's wireless network requires you to install McAfee in order to connect. Hope my laptop is not about to get farked...

If you're still using Norton or McAfee you deserve what's coming to you.

Do people like Avast and AVG just because they're free, or what?

I got an enterprise version of McAfee with a free subscription to updates and it's caught all viruses that have tried to infect my computers over the last 6 years without fail or any issue.

On the other hand, Norton has always pissed me off with its level of molestation in my normal computer usage, and the fact that it works its way into every nook and cranny of my pc system. It's like a damn borg.

the beauty of Linux is that you don't need antivirus/antispyware/adware.

have never run any of that crap in 5 years and still clean as the driven snow. i've never even heard of any Linux users being infected with anything, and 50% of the web servers around the world run Linux, and they havent' been infected with anything, other than passing along infections to windows machines.


Infections are a windows thing because windows was never designed right in the first place.

i work for Comcast and we offer McAfee as a free download...glad i'm off for the weekend

snuff3r: earl_k: If you are an IT admin and you're running McAfee you are a dipshiat.

So very this. Unfortunately, places like entire government departments often get bulk purchase deals and government PCs run it. It's what sustains them, much like Norton.

/uses free avira at home
//eTrust at work

fellow Avira user

Linux_Yes: the beauty of Linux is that you don't need antivirus/antispyware/adware.

That's because nobody writes malware for linux. Because nobody uses linux.

Your local auto mechanic rarely if ever sees a Chinese Haima come in for repairs, but that isn't because they are built solid as a rock.

RoxtarRyan: Alleyoop: It took me a while to finally figure out that when the trial subscription expires, it takes the internet connection with it EVEN AFTER IT IS UNINSTALLED. I had to use another computer to download software to remove the spoil-sport.

I'm actually going to be heading to a relative's house to do a 'nuke it from orbit' on her HD. After all the bloatware from Dell being installed and her son installing about 50 internet toolbars that "speed up your connection", her computer was running at the speed of snail.

Installing Win7 this afternoon.

been running Win7 x64 for a couple of months now...not too bad so far. i have to run Ableton in XP compatibility mode to get my VSTs to work. other than that, not bad.

Linux_Yes: the beauty of Linux is that you don't need antivirus/antispyware/adware.

have never run any of that crap in 5 years and still clean as the driven snow. i've never even heard of any Linux users being infected with anything, and 50% of the web servers around the world run Linux, and they havent' been infected with anything, other than passing along infections to windows machines.


Infections are a windows thing because windows was never designed right in the first place.

ah yes, more bullshiat from the peanut gallery.

if Linux is sooooooo goddamned great why does every Linux user I've ever spoken with recommend a virus scanner? I have 12 different flavors sitting on a disk right next to me...I've installed them all at one oint or another and every one has also installed a virus scanner. Explain that shiat.

I would rather have a virus than McAfee or Norton's.

The average user does not need anti-virus and firewall software. Just don't be a knob and click on stupid ad banners and suspicious e-mails.


/have never had anti-virus/firewall
//have never had a virus or problem.

Toy_Cop: The average user does not need anti-virus and firewall software. Just don't be a knob and click on stupid ad banners and suspicious e-mails.


/have never had anti-virus/firewall
//have never had a virus or problem.

This, but make that the above average user.

The average user is a dumbass.

X15: The average user is a dumbass.

Yes they are. They keep me well supplied with Scotch and Kind. I love them so much!

Another Comodo / Avira fanboy chiming in and feeling smug.

X15: Toy_Cop: The average user does not need anti-virus and firewall software. Just don't be a knob and click on stupid ad banners and suspicious e-mails.


/have never had anti-virus/firewall
//have never had a virus or problem.

This, but make that the above average user.

The average user is a dumbass.

agreed, thanks for FTFM. :D

DjangoStonereaver: real shaman: *smug mac owner giggles*

My Ubuntu laptop just stole your Mac's lunchmoney.

My BSD laptop just burned your school to the ground, while both your laptops were inside.

pxlboy: been running Win7 x64 for a couple of months now...not too bad so far.

Agreed. I've been running it myself since the beta release (now the RC obviously), and feel it is more than stable enough for her to use. Of course, I told her that though it is free now, it will expire next year. She was cool with it, since she'll be buying a new computer before then anyways.

scalpod: DjangoStonereaver: real shaman: *smug mac owner giggles*

My Ubuntu laptop just stole your Mac's lunchmoney.

My BSD laptop just burned your school to the ground, while both your laptops were inside.

You sure the Mac didn't burn the school down by running at nice 198 degrees?

Gotta love all the wannabe sysadmins with their McAfee hate.

I have 80 servers and hundreds of workstations running McAfee, and have done so for many years. In that time, I've had pretty much zero grief from doing so. No outbreaks of anything, no shutdowns. I would have preferred it to have remained a pure AV product instead of adding crap like port blocking, but it's been a quality product for well over a decade.

All you Johnny-come-lately's forget that back in the day, McAfee was far and away the best choice (out of a very small pool), and license renewal fees are a lot smaller than the cost of replacing a perfectly acceptable application with the fad of the month.

If my machines are adversely affected by this, then I may look at switching to something else. But if, as I expect, all continues to go well, then I won't be given a budget for replacing it. And things will continue to chug along just fine.

I got rid of McAfee on my PC, but I just noticed that my husband's laptop has it, so I uninstalled it.

I run Spyware Doctor on my PC, but I see a lot of suggestions in the thread for AVG. Is AVG better?

Funny, this little McAfee glitch will probably let Best Buy sell a few computer to noobs.

An older neighbor brought over her laptop last week to my brother to fix. "it has a virus, can it be fixed or should I just by a new one ? " she asked.

Backed up files & clean install and free antivirus - Good as new.

Glad she didn't try going to Best Buy on her own, I'd hate to think how much it would have cost Her.

These tools corp office is right by my apt here in Plano, TX never install their crap on your PC ever!!!!

Procedural Texture: yogaFLAME: McAfee was on my shiatlist looooong ago. AVG seems to be endeavoring to get on there, too, as of late.

Didn't AVG do something like this last year?
I'm not certain which anti-virus it was, but AVG comes to mind. There was definitely a Fark thread about it.

All of them eventually fark up. I still run Norton, but because it's free. 2009 is above and beyond the best they have had in a long time.

The corporate AV though misses all sorts of things though.

scalpod: DjangoStonereaver: real shaman: *smug mac owner giggles*

My Ubuntu laptop just stole your Mac's lunchmoney.

My BSD laptop just burned your school to the ground, while both your laptops were inside.

THIS

\FreeBSD rules

RoxtarRyan: For the work environment, I've always suggested Kaspersky. Of course, I've had to disable the user from interfering with the scans and such; due to the older hardware that they were using, they often canceled or disabled the daily scans and updates (which I scheduled to occur during their lunch break, yet they wanted to fark around on Myspace and such. That one, and all other social networking sites were blocked soon after), and it got so bad that when I ran each computer on a full scan after hours, I discovered shiatloads of viruses on our comptroller's computer, along with his large collection of kiddie pr0n. He lost his job, and my department got an increase of budget to upgrade all the hardware in the company.

For the home user, Avast or AVG.

We have some rather old equipment, some computers are even still running W2k, but I haven't had this problem with Kaspersky. I disabled all user interaction. Even the icon itself is gone. Also, I have it email me whenever it detects viruses. Which isn't that often, even though nothing is blocked. Maybe once every six months.

BUT, recently we've had a problem with Kaspersky. Every so often, it decides to block all HTTP traffic for some reason. Sometimes reboot helps, but sometimes not. It's really quite annoying.

finnished: We have some rather old equipment, some computers are even still running W2k, but I haven't had this problem with Kaspersky.

The programs the office used (SAP and a couple others) were pretty CPU intensive.

spleef420: ah yes, more bullshiat from the peanut gallery.

Does it really count as a "gallery" if it's just... well... him?

I'm not going to call that one crazy bum singing showtunes a quartet no matter how many voices he hears in his head.

If you are an IT admin and you are not testing new DATs or Engines prior to updating production boxes McDonalds may be hiring....

Comparing the home/commercial version of any AV to the enterprise version is apples and dumptrucks....

ePolicy Orchestrator FTW period.

vudukungfu: TheWizard: Looks like there is a lot of group-hate in here for McAfee.

If McAfee were a woman, she would be a short, obese, hairy troll that followed you around and stayed righ at your side. She would be counting the change in your pockets and bu,ping your elbow as you tried to type. She would remind you how many salories were in eveery snack you ate, and insist that you wipe twiee when you went number two. She would keep you from meeting new women, and fart in bed while you slept at 3 AM. She would charge you for these services, and remind you to pay her on a regular basis.

Looks like you need to to either move your elbow or uninstall McAfee.

I can't speak for McAfee's corporate version, but in my tech support days (this being the last couple of years) I ran into a myriad of instances where McAfee would block someone's internet connection for no apparent reason. By and large, the only way to fix it was to completely uninstall the thing, because just disabling the firewall or even exiting the software wouldn't do the trick. Same goes for Norton and Trend Micro.

I've been using NOD32 for about 5 years now and have never had a problem with it.

RoxtarRyan:
The programs the office used (SAP and a couple others) were pretty CPU intensive.

One of customers uses SAP, a big multinational corporation. So they have the supplier portal set up, where you go check purchase orders and what not.

Don't know about SAP itself, but the portal is horrible. Or maybe they're running it on an underpowered server. But still, when you check a checkbox, it shouldn't require reloading of the entire page. Yet it does.

Linux_Yes: the beauty of Linux is that you don't need antivirus/antispyware/adware.

And the beauty of Windows is that it actually has useful programs. :)

/i kid
//But seriously, GIMP as a photoshop alternative?

Benjimin_Dover: Looks like you need to to either move your elbow or uninstall McAfee.

Can't uninstall it.
I don'r have admin rights.
Our network did get a virus last month w/ Mc Afee on it, too.
You would think that when you have a virus slip through, and one employee who have been playing with computers for almost 4 decades telling you that the app is worthless, you might listen.
Or you could say, nah, let's see what happens. How bad could it get?
Me, I'm already looking for other employment, but that's because of other pisspoor choices of applications upper management has insisted on.
/Don't get me started with Oracle CRMs.

finnished: Don't know about SAP itself

Consider yourself blessed.

Worst part about that job, is that they had us IT guys who worked there (employed by the company), and the company also had a contract with HP for IT support. It was a constant battle between the two of us when it came to things like "who the fark screwed with the Exchange server at 3am on a Saturday" (the logs showing it was HP doing "upgrades" and "performance checks".

Fark, I'm glad I'm not there anymore.