I nominate Sean Hannity for Douchebag of Liberty to replace Robert Novak when he is found dead in a Dominican boy rape den.

You mean the American dream to wreck the economy and lie to the American people for personal gain?

GAT_00: You mean the American dream to wreck the economy and lie to the American people for personal gain?

No, the American dream where you get all the money in the world, and you stick it in your ears and go PTHHHHHHHHHHTTTTTT. As opposed to the European dream to be in the South of Europe - to be in Greece, in Italy, in Spain, and to be on a moped with no helmet on, riding along, going, "ciao!".

And when you die, you look a mess.

NewportBarGuy: I nominate Sean Hannity for Douchebag of Liberty to replace Robert Novak when he is found dead in a Dominican boy rape den.



Can we really afford to take Hannity off the line? No one can handle a big Dijon Interdiction: Light Dragoons Operation like he can.

GAT_00: You mean the American dream to wreck the economy and lie to the American people for personal gain?

Governor GW Bush, 7-22-1999 This is where my campaign is headed. We will carry a message of hope and renewal to every community in this country. We will tell every American, "The dream is for you."

/foreshadowing

Sgt Otter: Can we really afford to take Hannity off the line? No one can handle a big Dijon Interdiction: Light Dragoons Operation like he can.




We WANT him on the front line. We NEED him on the front line. For he... is a GREAT AMERICAN.

Go for it, boys. See how it works.

Link

This is what George Carlin thinks....

NewportBarGuy: img33.imageshack.us

We WANT him on the front line. We NEED him on the front line. For he... is a GREAT AMERICAN.

Oh man, how old is that? Bush looks 30 years older now, but I bet that isn't more than 10-12 years ago?

GAT_00: Oh man, how old is that?

92-96? Guessing.

as long as they're not the party of Americone Dream, I don't care.

That's so hot, Karl.

Then who's Sapphire?

Love the glasses.

As opposed to the President who actually epitomizes the American dream. I mean, where else but America could a socialist fascist communist terrorist empty suit Kenyan seekrit Muslin grow up to continue the job of wrecking the country from a silver spoon draft dodging conniving little frat boy?

JerseyTim: Then who's Sapphire?

Dick Cheney


/RIC FLAIR WHOOPED MY ASS 5023 TIMES BABYYYYY.
//GOT A TOUCH OF THE GOLD.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Since when has the American dream been hate and judgment?

Honestly, what the hell were these guys going to do it McCain won? Sit at their desks with their thumbs up their asses?

NeverDrunk23: Honestly, what the hell were these guys going to do it McCain won? Sit at their desks with their thumbs up their asses?

The same thing they do every night, Pinky.

Be the party of whatever the fark you want. The rest of the world will see you as the party of ignorant bible thumping racists.

The term "American Dream" is such a load of bullshiat.. But to take that and claim it as your own destroys the level of smugness I thought was possible for human beings to emit. Well, fark it --- I hearby claim that the Democratic Party is the party of puppy farts and pixie tits. Beat that, you sanctimonious twats.

NeverDrunk23: Honestly, what the hell were these guys going to do it McCain won? Sit at their desks with their thumbs up their asses?

"B-B-But Clinton!"

ragekage: As opposed to the President who actually epitomizes the American dream. I mean, where else but America could a socialist fascist communist terrorist empty suit Kenyan seekrit Muslin grow up to continue the job of wrecking the country from a silver spoon draft dodging conniving little frat boy?

Myanmar?

It's my American Dream to be born with a silver spoon in my mouth and be handed everything I've ever wanted. Too bad it's a bit too late for that one.

Only if "The American Dream" is two parts "Hostel" mixed with five parts "Top Gun" and a dash of "Buttsex with Little Boys XVII" for flavoring.

But you can't fault them for not living it to the fullest.

The pint of Americone Dream in my freezer will outlast the Republican Party at this rate. Excellent.

Sgt Otter: NeverDrunk23: Honestly, what the hell were these guys going to do it McCain won? Sit at their desks with their thumbs up their asses?

"B-B-But Clinton!"

I am really starting to believe that Beck/OReilly/Rush/Hannity/Coulter/etc all voted for Obama (and voted for Clinton) just so he could get into office and they could biatch about him and get more ratings/attention. None of them give a flying fark about this country and instead just want attention.

Great headline.

Hannity and Rove fap to this picture:

In the photo Rove is wearing a "BUSH" campaign pin.

That would mean that it likely dates from either the '88 or '92 Presidential campaign of "Poppy" Bush. Rove was fired in the midst of the '92 campaign, so it couldn't be later than say summer/early fall of '92. I'm leaning towards the '88 election myself.

lawboy87: That would mean that it likely dates from either the '88 or '92 Presidential campaign of "Poppy" Bush.

Couldn't make out the pin, but the pass around his neck makes it a campaign. I left open the possibility for the Governor's race. It's probably 88' because they look happy. 92', not so much.

OK, the big "F" badge is amusing too. Give him credit, he predicted it many years before.

Free Radical: Since when has the American dream been hate and judgment?

Well, the American Dream has never been, "Got mine, fark you" either...until these guys came to power.

I feel the urge to tounge-kiss someone.

"Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice . . . you don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They've long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying to get what they want.
Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don't want, they don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them. That's against their interests. That's right. They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they're getting farked by a system that threw them overboard 30 farkin' years ago. They don't want that.
You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shaittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they're coming for your Social Security money. They want your farkin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They'll get it. They'll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this farkin' place. It's a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in The big club. By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table has tilted folks.
The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people . . . white collar, blue collar it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don't give a fark about you. They don't care about you at all. At all. And nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their arseholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It's called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it."
--The late, great George Carlin

Well, they can't use "Party of Family Values" anymore.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Well, they can't use "Party of Family Values" anymore.

It is funny. Republican strategists are saying it is something they have to avoid now. It is beautiful.

ChickenTits: The term "American Dream" is such a load of bullshiat.

I don't think so.

People don't realize that all the American Dream is is the self-made life. If you want to be a corporate ladder-climber, go for it. If you want to sit on the sidewalk and play guitar for quarters, go for it. If you want a career, or just a job that gets you by while you pursue fleeting interests; if you want live in a secluded mansion, or a modest apartment; if you want to travel ... whatever you want to do, whatever your dream is, it's (supposed to be) achievable.

Some people have a plastic-wrapped, conformist vision of The American Dream™, and market the hell out of it. Republicans have one vision, Democrats another. But you don't have to buy into anyone else's vision or dream.

One great thing about liberty is you can say no.

The self-made life -- pursuing your own dream in America -- is what the American dream really is. It's what the fundamentalist Pentacostal housewife in rural Kentucky, the leather-chaps-clad gay man in California, the Wall Street Banker, the recently immigrated sidewalk fruit-seller, and hundreds of millions of others have in common.

Don't buy into or ridicule others' dreams; it's the easiest way to ensure you never realize yours.

If it's your dream to take away the 4th and 5th amendments, misinterpret (again) the 2nd amendment and declare this nation christian (which destroys a bit of the 1st)... then sure... that's the american dream?

I thought the american dream entitled keeping the constitution intact? I thought the american dream entitled, you know, freedom for people of all sexual orientations to live freely and without discrimination?

I could rant for about 5 more paragraphs, but I won't

SynthLord: ChickenTits: The term "American Dream" is such a load of bullshiat.

I don't think so.

People don't realize that all the American Dream is is the self-made life. If you want to be a corporate ladder-climber, go for it. If you want to sit on the sidewalk and play guitar for quarters, go for it. If you want a career, or just a job that gets you by while you pursue fleeting interests; if you want live in a secluded mansion, or a modest apartment; if you want to travel ... whatever you want to do, whatever your dream is, it's (supposed to be) achievable.

Some people have a plastic-wrapped, conformist vision of The American Dream™, and market the hell out of it. Republicans have one vision, Democrats another. But you don't have to buy into anyone else's vision or dream.

One great thing about liberty is you can say no.

The self-made life -- pursuing your own dream in America -- is what the American dream really is. It's what the fundamentalist Pentacostal housewife in rural Kentucky, the leather-chaps-clad gay man in California, the Wall Street Banker, the recently immigrated sidewalk fruit-seller, and hundreds of millions of others have in common.

Don't buy into or ridicule others' dreams; it's the easiest way to ensure you never realize yours.

The American Dream is owning your own house and being self-sufficient and providing for your family. That is all. The right has turned it into a race to make the most money.

The American dream isn't more government with more power and new ways to screw us all. Get back to me when you figure that out.

Hell, I'll even listen if they decide to meet me half way and give conservatism a shot. They've tried everything else.

Republican motto of 2012: "We getting funky like a monkey as we go to the pay window on the mothership, if you wiiiiilllllll..."

/

Won't work.

'American Dream' -- okay, that's sort of forward-looking. If that party's going to resurge, it will have to paint a picture of a wealthy, prosperous, educated future for America. However --

The Republican establishment as demonstrated here doesn't have the brainpower to get us there. Watch the video, those two look at Republican rebranding as a sales pitch, nothing more. We hear a few of the same old axioms we've heard since the mid-70s, and all they think they need to do to succeed is find the right ad agency, the right slogan.

Look at recent election results; Americans don't buy it anymore. Here's what they should do: Take a good look at all their cherished beliefs, question every one of them to figure out what's a first principle and what's not. Take the *real* first principles, sit your best thinkers down for a couple months with 'em, and generate some plans for dealing with the world as it is today without thinking about politics or constituencies.

Then, only then, work on the sales shiat. If your ideas are good, the people will follow.

GAT_00: You mean the American dream to wreck the economy and lie to the American people for personal gain?

over in two

paygun: The American dream isn't more government with more power and new ways to screw us all. Get back to me when you figure that out.

Hell, I'll even listen if they decide to meet me half way and give conservatism a shot. They've tried everything else.

We had more taxes and more government when the American Dream was thriving. Get back to me when the middle class has the same opportunity for the American Dream as they did in the 50's.

SynthLord: Don't buy into or ridicule others' dreams; it's the easiest way to ensure you never realize yours

I'm not ridiculing people's dreams. I'm ridiculing the fact that the "American Dream" is not unique at all. People all around the world dream of a better future for themselves, whatever that may be to them, but putting a big fat America in front of it doesn't make it any more meaningful to me.. I understand where you are coming from, but maybe I've just turned against the phrase because it comes off as trite, and it's usually sanctimonious dicks who use it. I love this country, but I dont like the dry humping of it.

Sabyen91: The American Dream is owning your own house and being self-sufficient and providing for your family. That is all.

I agree with the self-sufficiency part, but the rest of that isn't necessarily my dream.

Yes, you have a right to pursue your happiness in whatever form it comes, but that doesn't mean you get to obstruct others from achieving theirs.

The real tragedy is that some people achieve their dreams at the expense of everyone else.

Sabyen91: The right has turned it into a race to make the most money.

In certain circumstances, that may be true, but there's nothing wrong with making as much money as you want to -- as long as you don't do so in a criminal manner.

SynthLord: Sabyen91: The American Dream is owning your own house and being self-sufficient and providing for your family. That is all.

I agree with the self-sufficiency part, but the rest of that isn't necessarily my dream.

Yes, you have a right to pursue your happiness in whatever form it comes, but that doesn't mean you get to obstruct others from achieving theirs.

The real tragedy is that some people achieve their dreams at the expense of everyone else.

Sabyen91: The right has turned it into a race to make the most money.

In certain circumstances, that may be true, but there's nothing wrong with making as much money as you want to -- as long as you don't do so in a criminal manner.

It doesn't matter if it isn't your dream. It is the original American Dream. Now it is a nasty, kick your neighbor to get ahead dream.

Sabyen91: We had more taxes and more government when the American Dream was thriving. Get back to me when the middle class has the same opportunity for the American Dream as they did in the 50's.

I'm sorry, Hannity has told me that if you tax the well-to-do you bring the economy to its knees and socialists run rampant. Comrade Eisenhower presided over the worst economic period this country has ever seen, am I right?

What is it with Republicans and wrapping the same old crap ideas in new packaging and expecting people to buy it.

Hey, heres a thought, how about rethinking your old ideas modifying those you want to keep and throwing out those that don't seem to be be popular.

/DNRTFA

paygun - The American dream isn't more government with more power and new ways to screw us all. Get back to me when you figure that out.

Hell, I'll even listen if they decide to meet me half way and give conservatism a shot. They've tried everything else.



You've had eight years of conservatism. Don't try that disingenuous "that wasn't conservatism!" stuff...

Conservatives liked it so much they voted for it again in 2004 and stayed loyal and true to it right up to the point the wheels came completely off and they figured out they were going to have to distance themselves from Bush in the wake of the devastation that conservatism wrought.

When you hear conservatives talking about it, they start singing the same old 'trickle-down/deregulation/hawkishness' tune. The only complaint they lodge against Bush is spending, but they didn't lodge those complaints for the past eight years... only now, when they HAVE TO do it appear consistent when wailing and gnashing their teeth about Obama's spending.

When you invite someone over to your house time after time after time and he shiats the bed every single time, at a certain point you have to realize that that dude is a bed-shiatter... that's simply the fact of it. That's who he is and what he does.

The GOP is a bed-shiatter. Conservatism shiats the bed.

theorellior: Sabyen91: We had more taxes and more government when the American Dream was thriving. Get back to me when the middle class has the same opportunity for the American Dream as they did in the 50's.

I'm sorry, Hannity has told me that if you tax the well-to-do you bring the economy to its knees and socialists run rampant. Comrade Eisenhower presided over the worst economic period this country has ever seen, am I right?

Yup, you are right. The well-known economist, Sean (Puffy-head) Hannity, or P Hanny, told us taxes are bad.

NeverDrunk23: I am really starting to believe that Beck/OReilly/Rush/Hannity/Coulter/etc all voted for Obama (and voted for Clinton) just so he could get into office and they could biatch about him and get more ratings/attention. None of them give a flying fark about this country and instead just want attention.

They all made money through the lean years of the Bush White House, so I'd assume they don't really care who's in office.

Obviously, there's some compelling reason they don't swing from side to side with each regime change, and I'm guessing it's not ideological.

ChickenTits: I understand where you are coming from, but maybe I've just turned against the phrase because it comes off as trite, and it's usually sanctimonious dicks who use it. I love this country, but I dont like the dry humping of it.

Ever more reason to maintain a proper definition of it.

Yes, everyone wants a better life, and everyone should be free to achieve it. The only reason that "the pursuit of happiness" became the "American" dream is that America was the first nation founded on that particular moral standard, one which rejected the morality of not only every other nation in the world at that time, but that of modern America as well.

Oh, you're free to pursue happiness today -- just don't make too much money, don't do anything politically incorrect, environmentally friendly, in violation of "community standards", offensive to others' sensibilities, annoying, obnoxious, risky, unhealthy, deviant, random, dangerous, fun, or without a helmet and knee pads, and not without first seeking a state-issued permit or license ...

Hhhhmmmmm . . . vague, emotional, unwieldy, deceptively populist . . . yup, sounds like something the Republicans would come up with.

NeverDrunk23: Sgt Otter: NeverDrunk23: Honestly, what the hell were these guys going to do it McCain won? Sit at their desks with their thumbs up their asses?

"B-B-But Clinton!"

I am really starting to believe that Beck/OReilly/Rush/Hannity/Coulter/etc all voted for Obama (and voted for Clinton) just so he could get into office and they could biatch about him and get more ratings/attention. None of them give a flying fark about this country and instead just want attention money.

FTFY

edit: environmentally unfriendly

Maybe Jeff Gannon could help them with their PR brainstorming. I miss that guy, he was a real asset to the White House team.

ChickenTits: SynthLord: Don't buy into or ridicule others' dreams; it's the easiest way to ensure you never realize yours

I'm not ridiculing people's dreams. I'm ridiculing the fact that the "American Dream" is not unique at all. People all around the world dream of a better future for themselves, whatever that may be to them, but putting a big fat America in front of it doesn't make it any more meaningful to me.. I understand where you are coming from, but maybe I've just turned against the phrase because it comes off as trite, and it's usually sanctimonious dicks who use it. I love this country, but I dont like the dry humping of it.


WOW...I bet you're a blast at parties. Do you think it makes you look intelligent when you spew such venom? Grow up loser.

The Name: Hhhhmmmmm . . . vague, emotional, unwieldy, deceptively populist . . . yup, sounds like something the Republicans would come up with.

change
hope

SynthLord: edit: environmentally unfriendly

Just out of curiosity, what environmentally unfriendly thing are you prevented from doing that keeps you from being happy?

theorellior: Maybe Jeff Gannon could help them with their PR brainstorming. I miss that guy, he was a real asset to the White House team Karl Rove..

skipjack: change
hope

Sorry, those are not unwieldy. Anything else, sure, but they're very succinct.

Sabyen91: It doesn't matter if it isn't your dream. It is the original American Dream. Now it is a nasty, kick your neighbor to get ahead dream.

So maybe let's get change that together.

Actually, that's not a bad theme. Give them credit for being smooth manipulators.

Of course, a "freudian" interpretation would have to point out that identifying themselves as the party of dreams, AKA myth, fantasy, or wishful thinking, is very telling. After the oft-repeated contempt they showed for us in the "reality-based" world, I think it's probably the most honest sales pitch they've made in a long time.

I'm sure it will have some resonance with their followers, who were never really big on "reality" anyway. (seekrit-muslin-birth-certificate-mavrik-you-betcha!). All they need now is a candidate with a secret birthmark in the shape of a crown and a magic sword.

Heard his show before seems like he only says that because Obama's raising a lot of taxes and such that go after people who make $100,000+ a year, which doesn't mean a whole lot if you're a millionaire or something but it's fairly significant otherwise.

And technically speaking, every American's dream is to land that big job or make those big moneys... so Hannity likes to point out Obama is trying to kill that dream.

I don't think it will have any significant effect personally, (let's face it if the inauguration wasn't televised and the date wasn't already known no one would have been able to tell Obama was president anyways)

A common Republican mantra is that even though most don't make that much money, and never will have a salary that high, they don't want to tax it more or mess it up because that's their big dream. Sortof like if you made exotic sports cars illegal, you might not ever have enough money for one or ever own one, but it's a nice thought and if you did happen to get the money, you'd want to be able to have one.

skipjack: The Name: Hhhhmmmmm . . . vague, emotional, unwieldy, deceptively populist . . . yup, sounds like something the Republicans would come up with.

change
hope

Obama has brought a hell of a lot more change and hope than the Republicans have support for the American Dream.

SynthLord: Sabyen91: It doesn't matter if it isn't your dream. It is the original American Dream. Now it is a nasty, kick your neighbor to get ahead dream.

So maybe let's get change that together.

I have a feeling you and I would disagree about how we would do that.

The Name: Hhhhmmmmm . . . vague, emotional, unwieldy, deceptively populist . . . yup, sounds like something the Republicans would come up with.

Heck, and until i got to the end of the sentence, I thought you were talking about the current health care reform legislation.

ggggbabybabybaby: And technically speaking, every American's dream is to land that big job or make those big moneys... so Hannity likes to point out Obama is trying to kill that dream.

I'm glad those people weren't around when Comrade Eisenhower was raping the entrepreneurial spirit of the nouveau riche with a 90% marginal tax on millionaires.

The Name: skipjack: The Name: Hhhhmmmmm . . . vague, emotional, unwieldy, deceptively populist . . . yup, sounds like something the Republicans would come up with.

change
hope

Obama has brought a hell of a lot more change and hope than the Republicans have support for the American Dream.

In the end, I think the Republican American Dream is just a dream of an America where the Republicans are in charge

rohar: The Name: Hhhhmmmmm . . . vague, emotional, unwieldy, deceptively populist . . . yup, sounds like something the Republicans would come up with.

Heck, and until i got to the end of the sentence, I thought you were talking about the current health care reform legislation.

As opposed to actual reform?

rjkline: ChickenTits: SynthLord: Don't buy into or ridicule others' dreams; it's the easiest way to ensure you never realize yours

I'm not ridiculing people's dreams. I'm ridiculing the fact that the "American Dream" is not unique at all. People all around the world dream of a better future for themselves, whatever that may be to them, but putting a big fat America in front of it doesn't make it any more meaningful to me.. I understand where you are coming from, but maybe I've just turned against the phrase because it comes off as trite, and it's usually sanctimonious dicks who use it. I love this country, but I dont like the dry humping of it.


WOW...I bet you're a blast at parties. Do you think it makes you look intelligent when you spew such venom? Grow up loser.

The only venom I see is from you. I just said my opinion and you went all Amerikuh Smash on me. Oh, Lee Greenwood, I'm soo sorry for insulting the stupid farking American Dream. Welcome to the internet, dicklips.

I hearby proclaim the Libertarian Party the Party of consensus.

I hearby proclaim the Democaratic party the party of More guns for everyone.

SynthLord: ChickenTits: I understand where you are coming from, but maybe I've just turned against the phrase because it comes off as trite, and it's usually sanctimonious dicks who use it. I love this country, but I dont like the dry humping of it.

Ever more reason to maintain a proper definition of it.

Yes, everyone wants a better life, and everyone should be free to achieve it. The only reason that "the pursuit of happiness" became the "American" dream is that America was the first nation founded on that particular moral standard, one which rejected the morality of not only every other nation in the world at that time, but that of modern America as well.

Oh, you're free to pursue happiness today -- just don't make too much money, don't do anything politically incorrect, environmentally friendly, in violation of "community standards", offensive to others' sensibilities, annoying, obnoxious, risky, unhealthy, deviant, random, dangerous, fun, or without a helmet and knee pads, and not without first seeking a state-issued permit or license ...

Fair enough, but throw around these terms long enough and they eventually mean nothing. I agree with you.

Karl Rove is still one of the best strategists and political thinkers out there. I do not in any way subscribe to his philosophies of statecraft, but that man plays a long game.

Nobody has, in fact, been doing more to rehabilitate the Republican image than Rove at this point. It's less what he says and more what he leaves out.

As I said, brilliant guy. I follow him on Twitter for his history quizzes - they show what he's got on his mind and you can never go wrong knowing what your opponent had for breakfast.

I was kind of shocked when he went on Hannity today at all, given the ground right now, but it is clear what the marketing plan is : "Building a Bridge to the 80's"

This jives with the banking situation, the scandals, and the promised one's return.

Best talking point counterpunch - "SO you want to bring back SNLs and parachute pants?"

Game on.

Sabyen91: I have a feeling you and I would disagree about how we would do that.

Perhaps so. I won't infer anything from that if you don't.

theorellior: Just out of curiosity, what environmentally unfriendly thing are you prevented from doing that keeps you from being happy?

I'll assert my Fifth Amendment rights on that one. :)

And it's not about being prevented from being happy so much as it is about being prevented from realizing my happiness to its fullest extent.

I'll give you the tip of the iceberg though: in a couple of years, I won't be able to purchase light bulbs that don't make my house look like a Soviet-era lab dedicated to discovering light wavelengths that induce uncontrollable retching.

SynthLord: Sabyen91: I have a feeling you and I would disagree about how we would do that.

Perhaps so. I won't infer anything from that if you don't.

Alrighty, let's meet in committee and fix this country.

I saw this live and I hate to admit, Hannity almost made sense with the first parts of his vision, then Rove had to throw in the "Don't forget about values" and it was like a switch went off and Hannity sputtered something about being the "family value" party again. Ugh.Hannity is such as....well, he's Hannity. But that one second, he tiptoed at the dge of a reasonable statement and then scurried back into his comfort zone.

Sabyen91: SynthLord: ChickenTits: The term "American Dream" is such a load of bullshiat.

I don't think so.

People don't realize that all the American Dream is is the self-made life. If you want to be a corporate ladder-climber, go for it. If you want to sit on the sidewalk and play guitar for quarters, go for it. If you want a career, or just a job that gets you by while you pursue fleeting interests; if you want live in a secluded mansion, or a modest apartment; if you want to travel ... whatever you want to do, whatever your dream is, it's (supposed to be) achievable.

Some people have a plastic-wrapped, conformist vision of The American Dream™, and market the hell out of it. Republicans have one vision, Democrats another. But you don't have to buy into anyone else's vision or dream.

One great thing about liberty is you can say no.

The self-made life -- pursuing your own dream in America -- is what the American dream really is. It's what the fundamentalist Pentacostal housewife in rural Kentucky, the leather-chaps-clad gay man in California, the Wall Street Banker, the recently immigrated sidewalk fruit-seller, and hundreds of millions of others have in common.

Don't buy into or ridicule others' dreams; it's the easiest way to ensure you never realize yours.

The American Dream is owning your own house and being self-sufficient and providing for your family. That is all. The right has turned it into a race to make the most money.

I think you're both right and Synthlord's statement is really dead on. I know the idea of throwing out a big "American this" and "American that" label causes people to recoil for various reasons. But I see it all coming back to the individual. Maybe your dream is different that mine, as long as you don't break the law or your dream interferes with mine, more power to you.

Sabyen91: SynthLord: Sabyen91: It doesn't matter if it isn't your dream. It is the original American Dream. Now it is a nasty, kick your neighbor to get ahead dream.

So maybe let's get change that together.

I have a feeling you and I would disagree about how we would do that.

I see you two go back and forth quite a bit in these threads, I wonder if you're closer to being on the same page than you admit.

Besides, just because there's a disagreement on how to do something, that doesn't mean you don't at least try to do it.

Your_Huckleberry: I see you two go back and forth quite a bit in these threads, I wonder if you're closer to being on the same page than you admit.

Perhaps. I did just invite him to committee to fix everything.

SynthLord: I'll give you the tip of the iceberg though: in a couple of years, I won't be able to purchase light bulbs that don't make my house look like a Soviet-era lab dedicated to discovering light wavelengths that induce uncontrollable retching.

Hmmmm. Maybe it's not the wavelengths, but the optical beat frequency of the lights? Just a thought.

globalwarmingpraiser: I hearby proclaim the Libertarian Party the Party of consensus.

I hearby proclaim the Democaratic party the party of More guns for everyone.

I hereby proclaim the Green Party the Party of Sanity and Logic.

ChickenTits: rjkline: ChickenTits: SynthLord: Don't buy into or ridicule others' dreams; it's the easiest way to ensure you never realize yours

I'm not ridiculing people's dreams. I'm ridiculing the fact that the "American Dream" is not unique at all. People all around the world dream of a better future for themselves, whatever that may be to them, but putting a big fat America in front of it doesn't make it any more meaningful to me.. I understand where you are coming from, but maybe I've just turned against the phrase because it comes off as trite, and it's usually sanctimonious dicks who use it. I love this country, but I dont like the dry humping of it.


WOW...I bet you're a blast at parties. Do you think it makes you look intelligent when you spew such venom? Grow up loser.

The only venom I see is from you. I just said my opinion and you went all Amerikuh Smash on me. Oh, Lee Greenwood, I'm soo sorry for insulting the stupid farking American Dream. Welcome to the internet, dicklips.


Man that was really cool how you spelled Amerikuh. You are so super intelligent and people who are patriotic are just ignorant rednecks. Your apathy shows the world how cool and smart you are! You must be a hit with the ladies being so cool and all. You are my new super smart and cool hero. Can you misspell other words to show your massive intelligence and overall coolness?

Occam's Chainsaw: globalwarmingpraiser: I hearby proclaim the Libertarian Party the Party of consensus.

I hearby proclaim the Democaratic party the party of More guns for everyone.

I hereby proclaim the Green Party the Party of Sanity and Logic.

I proclaim the Republican Party the Party of Liking Vagina. Sanford is out.

Sabyen91: Alrighty, let's meet in committee and fix this country.

Thanks, but I'll decline.

I gotta fix my life before I can bother fixing others' ...

SynthLord: Sabyen91: Alrighty, let's meet in committee and fix this country.

Thanks, but I'll decline.

I gotta fix my life before I can bother fixing others' ...

Aw, crap, I would be better at fixing the country than my own life.

Occam's Chainsaw: globalwarmingpraiser: I hearby proclaim the Libertarian Party the Party of consensus.

I hearby proclaim the Democaratic party the party of More guns for everyone.

I hereby proclaim the Green Party the Party of Sanity and Logic.

cough....McKinney....cough. Oh you were kidding as well. Sorry, I hear some greens actually think that.

rjkline:
Man that was really cool how you spelled Amerikuh. You are so super intelligent and people who are patriotic are just ignorant rednecks. Your apathy shows the world how cool and smart you are! You must be a hit with the ladies being so cool and all. You are my new super smart and cool hero. Can you misspell other words to show your massive intelligence and overall coolness?

Okay, okay, now you've just hurt my feelings. I can't spell. Do you know what it's like to not be able to spell? It's AWFUL!!! I have to go around blaming Lee Greenwood and rednecks.. I don't want to hate anymore! I WANNA LOVE! I WANT MUh AMERICUGN DREEEEEAAAAAAAAM. I hope you feel awful for doing this to me in front of all these internet people. I'll never be able to show my face on this forum again.... This isn't the americha I love. I'm off to eat my fried mayonnaise balls untill I die on my flag colored toilet seat.

I think they've been misquoted.
The actual slogan is "The Republican Party: If you think we can win, you i
must be dreaming".

So the GOP is the party of sick, poor, fearful citizens that are happy whatever scraps the top .01% is willing to give them?

I think i will be punching the Democractic ticket from now on until the Neocons pass of this mortal coil

By the way... for those that think the GOP is the way to go, Karl Roves dad is Gay, and i bet Karl himself is to

ggggbabybabybaby: And technically speaking, every American's dream is to land that big job or make those big moneys...

Speak for yourself. That is just the attitude that's been poisoning this country for the last few decades.

Sabyen91: SynthLord: Sabyen91: Alrighty, let's meet in committee and fix this country.

Thanks, but I'll decline.

I gotta fix my life before I can bother fixing others' ...

Aw, crap, I would be better at fixing the country than my own life.

Wouldn't we all. :)

Kittypie070: CHICKEN TITS is MY HERO!!!

You have always wanted to say that :)

Free Radical: Since when has the American dream been hate and judgment?

1972

Sabyen91: Kittypie070: CHICKEN TITS is MY HERO!!!

You have always wanted to say that :)

Garsh... Only in Amerikauh

What happened to the American Dream?

It came true.

Hm.

JigsawX: Link

This is what George Carlin thinks....

George Carlin is sadly still right.

/RIP George.

Mentat: What happened to the American Dream?

It came true.

This.

The American Dream is being the one screwing everyone else over. You can have it.

GAT_00: You mean the American dream to wreck the economy and lie to the American people for personal gain?

Why yes we know what Obama is doing, but thank you for reminding us.

ChickenTits: rjkline:
Man that was really cool how you spelled Amerikuh. You are so super intelligent and people who are patriotic are just ignorant rednecks. Your apathy shows the world how cool and smart you are! You must be a hit with the ladies being so cool and all. You are my new super smart and cool hero. Can you misspell other words to show your massive intelligence and overall coolness?

Okay, okay, now you've just hurt my feelings. I can't spell. Do you know what it's like to not be able to spell? It's AWFUL!!! I have to go around blaming Lee Greenwood and rednecks.. I don't want to hate anymore! I WANNA LOVE! I WANT MUh AMERICUGN DREEEEEAAAAAAAAM. I hope you feel awful for doing this to me in front of all these internet people. I'll never be able to show my face on this forum again.... This isn't the americha I love. I'm off to eat my fried mayonnaise balls untill I die on my flag colored toilet seat.

mmm...fried mayonnaise balls! They are delicious! Now go back to reading your copy of The Daily Worker and I'll finish washing my monster truck.

the American Dream is being a giant bag of wind who sits on their ass all day disrespecting their fellow Americans who disagree with them and get paid handsomely for it.

All the Democrats have to do now is run Terry Funk for office and they will never lose.

AlgertMan: All the Democrats have to do now is run Terry Funk for office and they will never lose.

He will, however, retire from political office on an annual basis... for 25 years.

It's probably best Hunter isn't alive for this

With the fall of Sanford and Palin, looks like the Republicans are cleaning house. Lick the wounds, find something that might stick, and start over. Unfortunately, so many Republicans jammed their foot in their mouths during the 2008 election that it's going to be tough for them to dig themselves out. This oughta be fun. Popcorn, etc...

JigsawX: Link

This is what George Carlin thinks....

Jebus! No wonder they killed him!

i was almost on board with the ideas hannity was saying

then turd blossom had to go "DON'T FORGET THE VALUES"

my american dream is that people will stop caring about the answer to "Penis goes where?"

IN MY AMERICAN DREAM, PENIS GOES WHERE IT WANTS!

/like, say, a random vagina in Argentina

ragekage: As opposed to the President who actually epitomizes the American dream. I mean, where else but America could a socialist fascist communist terrorist empty suit Kenyan seekrit Muslin grow up to continue the job of wrecking the country from a silver spoon draft dodging conniving little frat boy?

You could say the same of Clinton, who came from humble beginnings and didn't even know his father.

Yet Republicans will paint Clinton and Obama as elitists, while GWB, who owes literally everything to his family connections, is a salt-of-the-earth guy.

Hollerin Charlie: I was kind of shocked when he went on Hannity today at all, given the ground right now, but it is clear what the marketing plan is : "Building a Bridge to the 80's"

That's really amusing, because the GOP strategy in the 1980s was essentially "Building a Bridge to the 1950s".

Republican theme: The Party of the American Dream-killers

FTFY Karl.

Logweasel: That's really amusing, because the GOP strategy in the 1980s was essentially "Building a Bridge to the 1950s".

Ask not for whom the pendulum swings, it swings for thee.

So, they are moving on from the plumber the the plumber's son.

Yeah because denying people healthcare and educational opportunities trying to achieve said American dream is a sure fire way to achieve it.

Given the flailing the GOP and their spokesclowns have been doing in recent months, I think they already have a theme:

AlgertMan: All the Democrats have to do now is run Terry Funk for office and they will never lose.



Approves if this means he can be booked.

NewportBarGuy: I nominate Sean Hannity for Douchebag of Liberty to replace Robert Novak when he is found dead in a Dominican boy rape den.

Hannity has proved he is a new kind of douche, Don't worry, it will still wrap around you and suck the wind out of your box.

welcome to my nightmare....

Maybe next election season I should vote Ozzy.

For every political office in the land.

\I so wanna see Ozzy bite Karl Rove's head off.