<shrug> Enjoy that moped, Fredo.

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: they are pretty big.

I couldn't find a good pic of the Wasilla sports complex to compare.

elchip: img132.imageshack.us

Dude, don't diss Odo, he spoke when I graduated from college.

Lenny_da_Hog: If you weren't so much like Palin yourself, you'd realize that I wasn't defending her. Go back and read.

You provided a rationale that could explain why Palin may have been justified in responding "all of them". It was a dumb rationale, but a rationale. That's a defense of her comment, even if you're acknowledging that it's a dumb defense from the get-go. Mitigation, rather than outright contradiction.

Pretty sure I'm not that far off-base to see that as defending her comment. Maybe you didn't intend it to be one, but as written, it certainly reads like one.

FishingWithFredo: Obama-fellating

Can't get that out of your head, eh?

And the point you're missing, anyway, is nobody in the Obama-fellating media would have even considered asking him such a question.

No, that's wrong. He got asked--like every single politician ever--TONS of silly little warm-up questions (what do you read? what's your favorite team?)...

...the difference is he didn't answer them in the defensive, clueless manner Palin did.

Get it? It's only an issue because of the way she non-answered it. She made it a story by answering it in a dumb way.

For instance, O'reilly asked Obama plenty of tough questions--Obama just didn't CHOKE in a mockable way like Palin did. He didn't sit there and spew out A Paragraph To Nowhere or blink and wink like a doofus. If he had, it would have been a story. He didn't; so it wasn't.

PALIN made those things stories--not the so-called "gotcha" press.

Thorak: Lenny_da_Hog: If you weren't so much like Palin yourself, you'd realize that I wasn't defending her. Go back and read.

You provided a rationale that could explain why Palin may have been justified in responding "all of them". It was a dumb rationale, but a rationale. That's a defense of her comment, even if you're acknowledging that it's a dumb defense from the get-go. Mitigation, rather than outright contradiction.

Pretty sure I'm not that far off-base to see that as defending her comment. Maybe you didn't intend it to be one, but as written, it certainly reads like one.

I never said she was justified. I said she was a whole different kind of stupid than people are used to.

It reads like one because you jumped in halfway through the thread without knowing WTF you were talking about.

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Can't get that out of your headmouth, eh?

FTFY

Lenny_da_Hog: It reads like one because you jumped in halfway through the thread without knowing WTF you were talking about.

You're being awfully hostile for someone who just got caught defending Palin.

poor,poor Sarah. Honey the world been treatin' you bad? That mean old MSM still talking bad about you? Maybe you guys just got off on the wrong foot. The first thing I recall is you giving a speech after the announcement of your selection for VP on McCain's ticket.

You kept going on about turning down the "Bridge to Nowhere" when it was already widely known that you had wanted the bridge and kept the money any way. But yet you continued to lie. I think this is where it all started. Then came the news out of Alaska of the ethics investigations. Seems you had fired a man for not firing your brother in law who was in a custody battle with your sister.
At first you denied having anything to do with it. That your office would be completely transparent about it.
Then came the audio tapes of the recorded phone calls.
Then Todd's emails etc. Suddenly it's time to batten down the hatches. Pull out the old tried and true executive privilege excuse for refusing to work with the investigators.
Suddenly the lawyers from the RNC,McCain Campaign and even James Dobson descend on Alaska to cover this up and try to squash it.

This is probably where it went from bad to worse. Then we had the Couric interview. Then you went and hid for a while.

then there was the convention,the divisive rhetoric from you. you really are a divisive speaker. those who believe as you do are the only "real Americans"

that tends to put people off.

but yeah blame it on the media. it always works with the base.

PartTimeBuddha: rynthetyn: /teaching foreign relations majors during the US elections was quite the experience
//Especially foreign relations majors in Vietnam when John POW McCain was running

I am interested in your experiences. I don't suppose you happen to have a newsletter?

I do in fact have a newsletter, of which I need to stop putting off writing my final edition. :)

I think the craziest moment during the election was when one of my students decided to argue in class that she liked John McCain better than Barack Obama because John McCain was a war hero who had stood up under torture. While I was trying to pick myself up off the floor, the rest of the class was sitting there snickering. That was also the girl who admired Sarah Palin for her ability to be in high office and regain her figure so soon after giving birth.

I tried not to show my disdain for Palin though, because in teaching a class that was 95% female, all aspiring to go into politics or government service in a country with very few female role models, Palin (well, until her meltdown, anyway), represented a role model that it was possible for a woman to be successful in their chosen field and still have a family and children. That's what pisses me off with Palin, she had the potential to be a great role model to young women around the world, and she screwed it up by being such a moron.

We also had John McCain pay a visit to the university, it was pretty surreal to stand there watching a leader from your home country getting questioned, on foreign soil, about human rights abuses committed by your government at Gitmo. It's especially surreal when the leader in question was tortured in that same country.

Then there was the time that a student decided that there wasn't enough debate in class and started arguing that suicide bombing was an effective military strategy for the Palestinians because Vietnam had used it successfully against American troops, thus appalling the other 99% of the class that had all already concluded that suicide bombing was never morally acceptable.

rynthetyn: Then there was the time that a student decided that there wasn't enough debate in class and started arguing that suicide bombing was an effective military strategy for the Palestinians because Vietnam had used it successfully against American troops, thus appalling the other 99% of the class that had all already concluded that suicide bombing was never morally acceptable.

That student's name? Saul Tigh.

Ba-da-dah-da-daaaah, I'm lovin' it!


/Canadian
//Would've voted Obama in the 2008 election were I American
///Palin's a farking joke, it's about time she stepped down

Sarah Palin: Quitbull with Lipstick

FishingWithFredo: Which makes dragging a political candidate you don't like's children through the mud no less despicable. But you either get that or you don't.

AND OBAMA TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO DO IT!!

AND WHEN PALIN WAS ASKED ABOUT WRIGHT SHE SAID THE MEDIA SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT MORE.


OBAMA SAID THAT STUFF WAS OFF LIMITS.

PALIN ENCOURAGED THAT BULLshiat!

PartTimeBuddha: rynthetyn: My mom wouldn't care if I unfriended her, the problem is that it makes it pretty awkward when it's somebody that you actually know in real life, especially when they're someone who's given you money while you were off on the other side of the planet working for peanuts for an NGO.

I have a facebook friend who does little else but promote her holistic complimentary therapy business. I hide her posts.

But if this friend is disrespectfully giving your page grief, I guess just adopt troll tactics and ignore her/don't engage online. Or just -- once -- ask her to stop because it's really not how you want to be perceived. You can do this all friendly-like.

Yeah, that's probably what I'm going to have to do, just ignore it. That's what my mom had to do during the election when the same lady kept sending her emails making fun of Obama's Kenyan relatives for their Africanness, and kept it up even after my mom brought up the point that in insulting Obama's relatives on that point, she was also insulting my mom's relatives because my mom has a Nigerian cousin who's story is fairly similar to Obama's except that unlike Obama, my mom's cousin really WAS born in Africa.

/in other words, other than me whining about it, it's pretty hopeless

Thorak: Lenny_da_Hog: It reads like one because you jumped in halfway through the thread without knowing WTF you were talking about.

You're being awfully hostile for someone who just got caught defending Palin.

Well, if you'd like to believe that, go ahead. Or you can see the truth by searching for "lenny" in this thread and seeing how pro-Palin I might be.

HA!

If not, shoo. I have no time for a personal troll. I'm too busy celebrating.

Me, pro-Palin. Jesus, you don't understand how freakin' funny that would be if you knew anything about my last 20 years in Alaskan politics....

FishingWithFredo: But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.

When and where did the mainstream media say that?

Rumor: A Michelle Obama Video (new window)

Yeah it was never picked up.


Or are you going to do a bullshiat "Rush doesn't count".

Lenny_da_Hog: Me, pro-Palin. Jesus, you don't understand how freakin' funny that would be if you knew anything about my last 20 years in Alaskan politics....

I think you and I are pretty much in the same boat with her. Neither of us likes her, neither of us thinks she can rub two coherent thoughts together, but neither of us has a problem pointing out when the media has gone too far. As evidenced by that weak ethics complaint on the arctic fox jacket bs.

The fireworks were lovely. soosh didn't make it.

Lenny_da_Hog: Thorak: Lenny_da_Hog: It reads like one because you jumped in halfway through the thread without knowing WTF you were talking about.

You're being awfully hostile for someone who just got caught defending Palin.

Well, if you'd like to believe that, go ahead. Or you can see the truth by searching for "lenny" in this thread and seeing how pro-Palin I might be.

HA!

If not, shoo. I have no time for a personal troll. I'm too busy celebrating.

Me, pro-Palin. Jesus, you don't understand how freakin' funny that would be if you knew anything about my last 20 years in Alaskan politics....

It's hilarious to any of us who've been paying even remote attention to your posts since Palin got picked to run for VP.

FishingWithFredo: When and where did the mainstream media say that?

Here is the video on FOX news.

Waiting for you to admit you wrong (which you never will)

Michelle Obama Whitey Tape Reported on Fox (new window)

Corvus: FishingWithFredo: But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.

When and where did the mainstream media say that?

Rumor: A Michelle Obama Video (new window)

Yeah it was never picked up.


Or are you going to do a bullshiat "Rush doesn't count".

How bout Fox News?

or on Fox again?

lstywnch:
I think you and I are pretty much in the same boat with her. Neither of us likes her, neither of us thinks she can rub two coherent thoughts together, but neither of us has a problem pointing out when the media has gone too far. As evidenced by that weak ethics complaint on the arctic fox jacket bs.

The fireworks were lovely. soosh didn't make it.

I really, really wish I were there. Still stuck in OR, where it can be hot and dark at the same time, and it's roasting tonight.

Hobodeluxe: Corvus: FishingWithFredo: But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.

When and where did the mainstream media say that?

Rumor: A Michelle Obama Video (new window)

Yeah it was never picked up.


Or are you going to do a bullshiat "Rush doesn't count".

How bout Fox News?

or on Fox again?

The hilarious thing is with all the right wing commentators they try to have it both ways. They use them as a source of "facts" but when people point out they lie all the time they say "Well they are just commentators, they don't have to tell the truth."

This is just the requisite martyrdom for the further beatification of Saint Sarah.

Regardless of what the actual reason for her resignation is, it will be blamed on "liberals": the gotcha media, left-wing fear/hatred of The Blessed Mother, or sexism.

If the reason for her resignation has anything to do with illegal activites, the investigations and subsequent precedings will be deemed a "partisan witch hunt."

Palin won't be dropping out of the public eye anytime soon. There are still too many hangers-on who'll defend everything the woman does because they want to have sex with her. She'll be bigger than Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy COMBINED.

lstywnch: Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: they are pretty big.

I couldn't find a good pic of the Wasilla sports complex to compare.

Nor could I. Although I am finding the name "Spenard Builders Supply" popping up a lot. This whole building issue is getting very interesting very quickly.

Although I am surprised Palin would resign over any type of scandal. These days it seems like nothing seems to phase politicians and have to be removed kicking and screaming. Ted "the tubes" Stevens is a perfect example.

Crap, I just ran out of popcorn

Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Ted "the tubes" Stevens is a perfect example.

I find it funny that he was exonerated for prosecutorial misconduct after the election, (thus saying that theres at least a chance he didnt do anything wrong) and this biatch kept her job.

I can see the headline now:

"SARAH PALIN ATTEMPTS SWIM TO RUSSIA FROM HER HOUSE, SAID " ITS NOT THAT FAR, I CAN SEE IT!"

rynthetyn 2009-07-04 04:00:19 AM
My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.

Not an unlikely guess on the heals of Vanity Fair article where it was leaked that McCain campaign aids were worried about her mental state and considered the possibility that she suffered from post-partum depression.

Chick is nuts, yo.

InmanRoshi: rynthetyn 2009-07-04 04:00:19 AM
My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.

Not an unlikely guess on the heals of Vanity Fair article where it was leaked that McCain campaign aids were worried about her mental state and considered the possibility that she suffered from post-partum depression.

Chick is nuts, yo.

Reading her speech reminded me of the way that my two nutty aunts write emails when their medicine is off.

Either that or the way I tend to start talking when I'm buzzed on my asthma inhaler.

Crocodilly_Pontifex: (thus saying that theres at least a chance he didnt do anything wrong)

That's the absolute wrong conclusion to draw. They had Stevens dead to rights; the odds of him being innocent of the charges leveled are about those that Jack Ruby was the 2nd shooter in Dealy Plaza. The prosecutors just cocked up so badly that the judge had no choice but to throw the whole damn case out.

I personally hope she goes down in flames and during the trial comes up with some 'God made me do it' excuse. The Republican party can then finally have an excuse to disenfranchise themselves from the stupid god loving wingnuts which scare the hell out of the general public.

We need a strong Republican party which adheres to the core values of fiscal responsibility and hands-off government management. A democracy only works well if the people are offered a viable alternative to the current people in power.

rynthetyn: Reading her speech reminded me of the way that my two nutty aunts write emails when their medicine is off.

Either that or the way I tend to start talking when I'm buzzed on my asthma inhaler.

Listening to her manic, crazed screeds about how the media is out to get her, I can't help but think about how Todd Palin's nightly routine must be just like from Chris Rock's bit from Bigger and Blacker, except replace the word "biatch" with "media".




Fellas, you want your woman to be happy? All you got to say is, 'How was your day?"

'Honey, how was your day?'

Know why? 'Cause "How was your day?" is a -minute conversation to a woman. And as a man, you don't really gotta talk. You gotta just act like you're talking.

"Get out of here !!! Go on! l don't believe it!!! You don't say!! Really? Get out of here!! Go on !! l don't believe it !! You don't say? Get out of here !! I told you that biatch crazy!'

You gotta throw in, "I told you that biatch crazy !!" You know why? 'Cause every woman's got another woman at her job that she can't stand.

Women, y'all exaggerate everything. You turn it into some Dynasty shiat, like: "She's trying to destroy me!"

What the fark are you talking about? You wrap up bags at J.C. Penney's! What's she doing, ripping up your paper?

Joe the Plumber stole the money to buy a plumbing business.

Sarah Palin = a Radio City Rockette, or somewhere thereabouts.

BalugaJoe: Joe the Plumber stole the money to buy a plumbing business.

He needed it to cover the tax increase on those making over $250,000 net. Then someone explained what "net" means.

FishingWithFredo: kasmel: The daughter/fiance was human interest. They were cynically used as props by the campaign.

Yeah. Don't you hate when that happens?



Your example is from right after Obama gave his speech accepting the nomination for President.

Palin, on the other hand, brought her kids to a hockey game to drop a puck on the hope that she wouldn't get booed and heckled (which she did).

sn0r: We need a strong Republicanopposition party which adheres to the core values of fiscal responsibility and hands-off government management. A democracy only works well if the people are offered a viable alternative to the current people in power.

FTFY. We don't need the GOP, they need us. We'll always have a two-party system (or be transitioning back to one), but there's nothing that says that it has to be the GOP.

Well, that was an entertaining day.

Just when you thought the conservative circus couldn't shoot itself in the foot even worse--

Thanks you teabaggin', Argentina-bangin', responsibility-quittin' republican moroons. You're better than free cable.

Seriously. It's like the first bullet point on the RNC agenda for 2009 was "vigorously test Poe's Law until it breaks".

RevMercutio: Your example is from right after Obama gave his speech accepting the nomination for President.

Yep. I also recall Obama telling reporters to buzz off when he took Sasha trick-or-treating (new window)

The Obama's kids participated in some campaign events, sure. But it was nowhere near the level of political proppery the Palin kids went through. Track represented Palin Supports The Troops, Trig and Bristol were the Palin Is Adamantly Pro-Life footballs. Piper and Willow didn't specifically symbolize anything that I know of, but they were photogenic and available.

I won't go as far as some and say this means Palin is a bad mom - hell, Piper found out there was a whole world outside of Alaska simultaneously with her own mother, and at a much younger age. I think that was probably great for her.

But if we're comparing the Obamas vs the Palins on the deliberate use of their kids as political tools, it's not much of a contest.

So she starts out as "normal person goes into bigtime politics", and ends up as...John Rowland?

Maybe this Parnell guy has his shiat together.

For a second there I thought Fredo had posted under the wrong alt when he so clearly recognized what an epic crash and burn this is for Palin.

But he almost immediately reverted back to the cognitive dissonance we've all come to expect from him and all the other idiot Fox-watchers here on Fark. I especially liked the weird tangent about Palin's superb performance in a debate where she announced that she wasn't going to answer the questions she was being asked by the moderator. That was one for the ages.

Meanwhile, the rest of you knuckleheads here (Cchris, Muck, Random, and especially Canis) and on Fox keep trying to make a silk purse out of this nasty, dirty, stinky sow's ear. We will find out soon enough what this is all about. And then we can all have a good laugh.

It's like putting your dick in a freezer burnt moose cassarole

Occam's Chainsaw: FTFY. We don't need the GOP, they need us. We'll always have a two-party system (or be transitioning back to one), but there's nothing that says that it has to be the GOP.

Good point, though it'll be hard to set something up from scratch.

I am not a Palin fan, but I will not get over the top upset about "almost a half a million dollar contract", "people with connections getting a contract" and "oops, it fell off a truck", "the doors and windows are the same". Her opposition doesn't like her [no surprise] and her own party in Alaska doesn't like her because she went after dirty republicans [surprise].
On the national level, Rangel, Franks, Murtha, Dodd etc., are STILL on the national scene. Where is the outrage?!?

museisluse: I am not a Palin fan, but I will not get over the top upset about "almost a half a million dollar contract", "people with connections getting a contract" and "oops, it fell off a truck", "the doors and windows are the same". Her opposition doesn't like her [no surprise] and her own party in Alaska doesn't like her because she went after dirty republicans [surprise].
On the national level, Rangel, Franks, Murtha, Dodd etc., are STILL on the national scene. Where is the outrage?!?

I haven't seen any "outrage" over this little bit of speculation. But when you abruptly resign your governorship on a Friday before a holiday with what appears to be a hastily (and poorly) written speech, people will speculate.

It's really quite like what happened when she was picked as McCain's VP. They trotted her out, she gave a speech that they admitted was written for someone else, then sequestered her. So the rest of us were left to try and figure out wtf just happened. As you might recall, there was a pretty good amount of speculation about her and her family after that little dog and pony show too.

GitOffaMyLawn: At first I thought that the image was gimped, so I went back and looked at the video.

If it's gimped, then it's a reasonably good job.

/ Am not a graphics person
// has not done gimp hackery
/// does not have a copy of Photoshop

I do have a copy of Photoshop, but I did not alter that image in any way. It is what it is.