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2xhelix
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2009-07-03 08:51:29 PM |
If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
| St_Francis_P
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2009-07-03 08:55:32 PM |
2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
| deadapostle
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2009-07-03 08:56:08 PM |
St_Francis_P: 2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
| St_Francis_P
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2009-07-03 08:59:08 PM |
deadapostle: St_Francis_P: 2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
It very well might be. It does explain the snappy resignation.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
It very well might be. It does explain the snappy resignation.
| Cubansaltyballs
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2009-07-03 09:09:05 PM |
I'm just looking for the Daffy Duck beating off gif....
| GAT_00
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2009-07-03 09:15:46 PM |
deadapostle: St_Francis_P: 2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
Something caused her to up and quit without warning, and as the article points out, something worse than what Sanford did. And she has a history of abusing her power. It's more than plausible.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
Something caused her to up and quit without warning, and as the article points out, something worse than what Sanford did. And she has a history of abusing her power. It's more than plausible.
| acanuck
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2009-07-03 09:18:18 PM |
She's just being a Republican, trying to fit in with all the boys in The Party of The American Dream...in that case, what's the big deal about embezzlement?
| Bathia_Mapes
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2009-07-03 09:18:51 PM |
I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
| GAT_00
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2009-07-03 09:20:50 PM |
Bathia_Mapes: I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either. But something big happened, that's for sure. And the concept is plausible given her history of abuse of power.
Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either. But something big happened, that's for sure. And the concept is plausible given her history of abuse of power.
| Roook
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2009-07-03 09:25:34 PM |
This is what happens when women get into politics
| Bathia_Mapes
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2009-07-03 09:25:45 PM |
GAT_00: Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either. But something big happened, that's for sure. And the concept is plausible given her history of abuse of power.
Oh, I agree that something major happened that caused her to resign so abruptly, but what it was is pure speculation at this point.
Oh, I agree that something major happened that caused her to resign so abruptly, but what it was is pure speculation at this point.
| ne2d
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2009-07-03 09:25:52 PM |
Check out the big blog on Brad!
/got nuthin
/got nuthin
| ThatGuyGreg
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2009-07-03 09:28:56 PM |
| basemetal
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2009-07-03 09:29:35 PM |
This would make sense but I'd like to hear it from another source than a dude's blog.
| basemetal
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2009-07-03 09:31:32 PM |
Something tells me Brad better be able to back up his mouth, Kos is now quoting him.
| deadapostle
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2009-07-03 09:31:36 PM |
St_Francis_P: deadapostle: St_Francis_P: 2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
It very well might be. It does explain the snappy resignation.
GAT_00: deadapostle: St_Francis_P: 2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
Something caused her to up and quit without warning, and as the article points out, something worse than what Sanford did. And she has a history of abusing her power. It's more than plausible.
Why is it that when I have an asswipe comment the thread goes green, but when I have an awesome statement regarding the issue it gets redlit? Are the admins trying to make the fark community at large think that I'm a jerk?
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
It very well might be. It does explain the snappy resignation.
GAT_00: deadapostle: St_Francis_P: 2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
Something caused her to up and quit without warning, and as the article points out, something worse than what Sanford did. And she has a history of abusing her power. It's more than plausible.
Why is it that when I have an asswipe comment the thread goes green, but when I have an awesome statement regarding the issue it gets redlit? Are the admins trying to make the fark community at large think that I'm a jerk?
| LordOfThePings
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2009-07-03 09:31:41 PM |
She has a lover in Honduras.
It's Zelaya.
It's Zelaya.
| MasterThief
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2009-07-03 09:31:46 PM |
Indictment papers or GTFO.
| drnugget
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2009-07-03 09:31:58 PM |
it's not too late to get whoever leaked this fired.
Procedural Texture
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2009-07-03 09:32:57 PM |
St_Francis_P: It does explain the snappy resignation.
Well, lots of things would explain the resignation.
Almost all plausible explanations would involve bad news for Palin, however. Almost all.
This fits what we'd expect, but further corroboration is needed before we pop the champagne cork.
/puts champagne on ice
Well, lots of things would explain the resignation.
Almost all plausible explanations would involve bad news for Palin, however. Almost all.
This fits what we'd expect, but further corroboration is needed before we pop the champagne cork.
/puts champagne on ice
| sentex
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2009-07-03 09:33:15 PM |
| deadapostle
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2009-07-03 09:34:52 PM |
drnugget: it's not too late to get whoever leaked this fired.
I say that to my pets any time I find urine on the floor.
I say that to my pets any time I find urine on the floor.
| SilentStrider
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2009-07-03 09:34:59 PM |
wow. This will be... downright epic.
| DamnYankees
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2009-07-03 09:35:09 PM |
Well that's a little boring. I was hoping for some scandal involving a pan-sexual bazaar.
| GAT_00
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2009-07-03 09:35:10 PM |
deadapostle: Why is it that when I have an asswipe comment the thread goes green, but when I have an awesome statement regarding the issue it gets redlit? Are the admins trying to make the fark community at large think that I'm a jerk?
You aren't?
/ducks
You aren't?
/ducks
| drnugget
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2009-07-03 09:35:22 PM |
um, I hope this bad news doesn't have her kids feeling down.
| Procedural Texture
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2009-07-03 09:35:23 PM |
Oh, and this is worth repeating:
GOOD JOB VETTING YOUR RUNNING MATE, McCAIN!
| orbitalfreak | 2009-07-03 09:35:34 PM |
There was no South American hottie. Sanford was sleeping with Palin.
| Edsel | 2009-07-03 09:36:26 PM |
Who cares? She's done politically anyway. At this point it's just pure schadenfraude.
| GAT_00
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2009-07-03 09:37:04 PM |
DamnYankees: Well that's a little boring. I was hoping for some scandal involving a pan-sexual bazaar.
I remember someone joking that it was one of the other daughters got pregnant. THAT would be one hell of a story.
I remember someone joking that it was one of the other daughters got pregnant. THAT would be one hell of a story.
| LordOfThePings
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2009-07-03 09:38:41 PM |
Edsel: Who cares? She's done politically anyway. At this point it's just pure schadenfraude.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
| SpinStopper
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2009-07-03 09:39:32 PM |
deadapostle: Are the admins trying to make the fark community at large think that I'm a jerk?
Naw. They don't have to ;)
Naw. They don't have to ;)
| deadapostle
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2009-07-03 09:39:43 PM |
| NewportBarGuy
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2009-07-03 09:39:58 PM |
I can see prison from my house!
| ApocoLypstick
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2009-07-03 09:40:47 PM |
| DamnYankees
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2009-07-03 09:41:25 PM |
GAT_00: DamnYankees: Well that's a little boring. I was hoping for some scandal involving a pan-sexual bazaar.
I remember someone joking that it was one of the other daughters got pregnant. THAT would be one hell of a story.
And TRIG IS THE FATHER!!!
I remember someone joking that it was one of the other daughters got pregnant. THAT would be one hell of a story.
And TRIG IS THE FATHER!!!
| TheOnion
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2009-07-03 09:41:52 PM |
Palin is pregnant
| What in The | 2009-07-03 09:44:09 PM |
If found guilty, will the sentence be a nailin' for Palin?
| deadapostle
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2009-07-03 09:44:57 PM |
| Awea
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2009-07-03 09:45:40 PM |
deadapostle:
Why is it that when I have an asswipe comment the thread goes green, but when I have an awesome statement regarding the issue it gets redlit? Are the admins trying to make the fark community at large think that I'm a jerk?
He knows! Go to plan Charlie Two Niner Delta.
Why is it that when I have an asswipe comment the thread goes green, but when I have an awesome statement regarding the issue it gets redlit? Are the admins trying to make the fark community at large think that I'm a jerk?
He knows! Go to plan Charlie Two Niner Delta.
| deadapostle
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2009-07-03 09:47:31 PM |
She's going to cut a deal and go into witless protection.
Now they just have to find a city in America where nobody knows who she is.
Now they just have to find a city in America where nobody knows who she is.
| Hagbardr
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2009-07-03 09:48:43 PM |
I wonder what Triggered the investigation.
| Hagbardr
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2009-07-03 09:50:14 PM |
| TheGreatZarquon | 2009-07-03 09:51:11 PM |
"I'd like to announce that I'm nominating Sarah Palin as my VP!"
"You chose...poorly. And you obviously didn't do your vetting very well, either."
| GAT_00
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2009-07-03 09:51:23 PM |
Could this have been prophetic?
| DamnYankees
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2009-07-03 09:52:18 PM |
I must say - I'm so happy the analogy meme is back. I missed it.
| Bathia_Mapes
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2009-07-03 09:53:58 PM |
| ne2d
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2009-07-03 09:54:03 PM |
Hagbardr: I wonder what Triggered the investigation.
With her Track record, you knew she was going to have to pay the Piper at some point. Bristol.
With her Track record, you knew she was going to have to pay the Piper at some point. Bristol.
| Hagbardr
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2009-07-03 09:54:22 PM |
DamnYankees: I must say - I'm so happy the analogy meme is back. I missed it.
Shot at 2009-07-03
Here ya go.
Shot at 2009-07-03
Here ya go.
| TheGreatZarquon | 2009-07-03 09:56:09 PM |
Is it Palin Image Macro Season again? Sweet.
| Snarfangel
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2009-07-03 09:56:14 PM |
orbitalfreak: There was no South American hottie. Sanford was sleeping with Palin.
It was the three-way tryst with Michael Jackson that did the pop singer in.
It was the three-way tryst with Michael Jackson that did the pop singer in.
| Bathia_Mapes
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2009-07-03 09:56:53 PM |
| orbitalfreak | 2009-07-03 09:59:33 PM |
| Klingon Penis | 2009-07-03 09:59:56 PM |
Bathia_Mapes: I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
basemetal: This would make sense but I'd like to hear it from another source than a dude's blog.
Did a Scandal Sink the U.S.S. Palin? (new window)
basemetal: This would make sense but I'd like to hear it from another source than a dude's blog.
Did a Scandal Sink the U.S.S. Palin? (new window)
| KickahaOta
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2009-07-03 10:05:46 PM |
This is all a conspiracy to get us to forget about Iran.
And Michael Jackson's killers are behind it.
And Michael Jackson's killers are behind it.
| Procedural Texture
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2009-07-03 10:07:57 PM |
It makes you start to wonder if McCain didn't deliberately do all this to wipe the irretrievably corrupted Republican Party off the face of the planet.
It's the best explanation for his utter descent into wharrgarbl after winning the nomination.
This is just the latest play. There will be more.
/Manchuria!
It's the best explanation for his utter descent into wharrgarbl after winning the nomination.
This is just the latest play. There will be more.
/Manchuria!
| GAT_00
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2009-07-03 10:08:36 PM |
Klingon Penis: Did a Scandal Sink the U.S.S. Palin? (new window)
No sources on where they got the building material skimming though. If it's true, we'll probably see indictments on Monday given her sudden resignation.
No sources on where they got the building material skimming though. If it's true, we'll probably see indictments on Monday given her sudden resignation.
| Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo
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2009-07-03 10:10:47 PM |
| deadapostle
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2009-07-03 10:14:09 PM |
Okay, I just watched her resignation video (new window).
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
| ThatGuyGreg
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2009-07-03 10:22:15 PM |
deadapostle: Okay, I just watched her resignation video (new window).
Not to mention taking about a zillion quick forced breaths, while speaking just a lil' too fast - she must've been nervous as SHIAT.
Not to mention taking about a zillion quick forced breaths, while speaking just a lil' too fast - she must've been nervous as SHIAT.
| deadapostle
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2009-07-03 10:24:35 PM |
ThatGuyGreg: Not to mention taking about a zillion quick forced breaths, while speaking just a lil' too fast - she must've been nervous as SHIAT.
I'm guessing that she had the plane behind her so that if the feds showed up, she'd be able to make a quick getaway.
I'm guessing that she had the plane behind her so that if the feds showed up, she'd be able to make a quick getaway.
| DamnYankees
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2009-07-03 10:26:35 PM |
Is there *anything* worthwhile in the GOP? I mean anything? I can't think of a single elected Republican I actually admire/like/don't think is a liar and an idiot.
| TommyymmoT
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2009-07-03 10:27:00 PM |
deadapostle: Okay, I just watched her resignation video (new window).
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
I thought the animal noises were hilarious.
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
I thought the animal noises were hilarious.
| TheOther
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2009-07-03 10:28:05 PM |
DamnYankees: Is there *anything* worthwhile in the GOP? I mean anything? I can't think of a single elected Republican I actually admire/like/don't think is a liar and an idiot.
Is Pawlenty that bad?
Is Pawlenty that bad?
| ne2d
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2009-07-03 10:28:07 PM |
deadapostle: Okay, I just watched her resignation video (new window).
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
Damn, that was painful--I could only stand it for about 30 seconds in.
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
Damn, that was painful--I could only stand it for about 30 seconds in.
| DamnYankees
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2009-07-03 10:28:51 PM |
From Ezra Klein:
The main thing I'd point out about Sarah Palin's dazzlingly incoherent farewell is that it's pretty clear she wrote it herself. The proof is in the punctuation. The transcript was posted to her official Web site earlier today. The style is closer to a high schooler's angry diary entry than to an official speech. I've read a lot of speech transcripts. They tend to have fewer words in all capital letters. And fewer things in quotation marks that aren't actually, you know, quotes. And I've never seen an official speech transcript, written by an actual speechwriter, that contains this:
*((Gotta put First Things First))*
And that's not even getting into the self-pitying shots at the press, the fact that she mocked those who take "the quitter's way out" in a speech dedicated to quitting, or this agonizing sports metaphor:
All of which suggests that today's speech wasn't the carefully vetted product of the team quietly masterminding her presidential run (What's the difference between a pitbull going for a walk and Sarah Palin? The pitbull has a plan.) I don't know if Palin is leaving office to preempt a coming scandal or simply because she's finished with the job. But this looks like the impulsive decision of an impulsive politician. It doesn't exactly scream president-in-waiting.
| what_now
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2009-07-03 10:32:51 PM |
DamnYankees: I can't think of a single elected Republican I actually admire/like/don't think is a liar and an idiot.
Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe.
Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe.
| DamnYankees
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2009-07-03 10:33:49 PM |
what_now: DamnYankees: I can't think of a single elected Republican I actually admire/like/don't think is a liar and an idiot.
Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe.
Yeah, they are ok. I retract my statement.
Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe.
Yeah, they are ok. I retract my statement.
| ChiliBoots
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2009-07-03 10:35:49 PM |
After reading the article, I was somewhat disappointed to see that the 'iceberg scandal' does not involve an actual iceberg. That would have been interesting.
| Klingon Penis | 2009-07-03 10:36:33 PM |
Nothing makes sense other than her either being in big trouble (other shoe about to drop, etc.) or that she's a complete moron.
Quitting her only term as governor early hurts her brand (even with conservatives, who don't like quitters), so a Presidential run is out. The Senate seat in Alaska coming up for election in 2010 is already held by a Republican.
My guess is if she doesn't end up indicted, Fox News will take her in. (Clearly, they'll take anyone.) Her days running in electoral politics are over.
Quitting her only term as governor early hurts her brand (even with conservatives, who don't like quitters), so a Presidential run is out. The Senate seat in Alaska coming up for election in 2010 is already held by a Republican.
My guess is if she doesn't end up indicted, Fox News will take her in. (Clearly, they'll take anyone.) Her days running in electoral politics are over.
| dahmers love zombie
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2009-07-03 10:38:20 PM |
ThatGuyGreg: deadapostle: Okay, I just watched her resignation video (new window).
Not to mention taking about a zillion quick forced breaths, while speaking just a lil' too fast - she must've been nervous as SHIAT.
Meth's a helluva drug.
Not to mention taking about a zillion quick forced breaths, while speaking just a lil' too fast - she must've been nervous as SHIAT.
Meth's a helluva drug.
| deadapostle
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2009-07-03 10:38:22 PM |
ne2d: Damn, that was painful--I could only stand it for about 30 seconds in.
If you listen from 3:20 - 3:40, you get to hear her refer to her children, point to the right, and then a bunch of wild animal noises come from that direction implying that her children are the animals. It is my favorite part.
If you listen from 3:20 - 3:40, you get to hear her refer to her children, point to the right, and then a bunch of wild animal noises come from that direction implying that her children are the animals. It is my favorite part.
| shivashakti
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2009-07-03 10:38:40 PM |
Klingon Penis: My guess is if she doesn't end up indicted, Fox News will take her in. (Clearly, they'll take anyone.) Her days running in electoral politics are over.
I think she'd probably make a successful talk show host. The white-trash fundamentalist Christian version of Oprah.
I think she'd probably make a successful talk show host. The white-trash fundamentalist Christian version of Oprah.
| theorellior | 2009-07-03 10:39:35 PM |
(What's the difference between a pitbull going for a walk and Sarah Palin? The pitbull has a plan.)
LOL.
LOL.
| FuturePastNow
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2009-07-03 10:39:57 PM |
That's the worst web site I ever saw.
| SilentStrider
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2009-07-03 10:40:01 PM |
| Klingon Penis | 2009-07-03 10:40:51 PM |
shivashakti: Klingon Penis: My guess is if she doesn't end up indicted, Fox News will take her in. (Clearly, they'll take anyone.) Her days running in electoral politics are over.
I think she'd probably make a successful talk show host. The white-trash fundamentalist Christian version of Oprah.
Yeah - I said Fox News would take her in.
If they'll program Huckabee, anyone can get a show.
I think she'd probably make a successful talk show host. The white-trash fundamentalist Christian version of Oprah.
Yeah - I said Fox News would take her in.
If they'll program Huckabee, anyone can get a show.
| pnjunction
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2009-07-03 10:41:05 PM |
Got nothin'...just wanted to make one.
Regarding indictment, couldn't happen to a bigger biatch.
| DamnYankees
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2009-07-03 10:41:24 PM |
| Soumac
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2009-07-03 10:42:02 PM |
And monkeys may fly out of my butt.
There's definitely something big around the corner, but I'd rather get it from someone other than an overzealous staffer.
There's definitely something big around the corner, but I'd rather get it from someone other than an overzealous staffer.
| ne2d
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2009-07-03 10:42:36 PM |
DamnYankees: Is there *anything* worthwhile in the GOP? I mean anything? I can't think of a single elected Republican I actually admire/like/don't think is a liar and an idiot.
I have nothing against Richard Lugar.
I have nothing against Richard Lugar.
| SilentStrider
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2009-07-03 10:42:39 PM |
Klingon Penis: If they'll program Huckabee, anyone can get a show.
hey, be nice to Huckabee. I may disagree a lot with his politics, but he actually comes across as reasonable, intelligent, and friendly.
I'd never vote for him, but I wouldn't mind having some barbecue with him.
hey, be nice to Huckabee. I may disagree a lot with his politics, but he actually comes across as reasonable, intelligent, and friendly.
I'd never vote for him, but I wouldn't mind having some barbecue with him.
| Bucky Katt
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2009-07-03 10:43:12 PM |
I need to buy more towels. If this is true I know I'll wet myself from laughing so hard.
| what_now
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2009-07-03 10:43:49 PM |
| TheGreatZarquon | 2009-07-03 10:44:16 PM |
dahmers love zombie: ThatGuyGreg: deadapostle: Okay, I just watched her resignation video (new window).
Not to mention taking about a zillion quick forced breaths, while speaking just a lil' too fast - she must've been nervous as SHIAT.
Meth's a helluva drug.
Either she'd had too much caffeine, was on uppers or was goddamn scared.
Well, it may have been all three.
Not to mention taking about a zillion quick forced breaths, while speaking just a lil' too fast - she must've been nervous as SHIAT.
Meth's a helluva drug.
Either she'd had too much caffeine, was on uppers or was goddamn scared.
Well, it may have been all three.
| what_now
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2009-07-03 10:44:57 PM |
SilentStrider: I'd never vote for him, but I wouldn't mind having some barbecue with him.
I agree. But you'd have to bring your own booze.
I agree. But you'd have to bring your own booze.
| Bucky Katt
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2009-07-03 10:46:00 PM |
DamnYankees: Well that's a little boring. I was hoping for some scandal involving a pan-sexual bazaar.
think of the prison films to be made...
think of the prison films to be made...
| themeaningoflifeisnot
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2009-07-03 10:46:26 PM |
Never gonna happen. Nothing to see here.
| Klingon Penis | 2009-07-03 10:47:02 PM |
SilentStrider: hey, be nice to Huckabee. I may disagree a lot with his politics, but he actually comes across as reasonable, intelligent, and friendly.
I'd never vote for him, but I wouldn't mind having some barbecue with him.
I hear the same sorts of compliments about Jerry Springer.
Wouldn't want to watch his show, either.
I'd never vote for him, but I wouldn't mind having some barbecue with him.
I hear the same sorts of compliments about Jerry Springer.
Wouldn't want to watch his show, either.
| dorko16
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2009-07-03 10:47:58 PM |
Might anyone have a link to the old Palin/Biden photoshop thread? The google does nothing.
| SilentStrider
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2009-07-03 10:49:13 PM |
Klingon Penis: I hear the same sorts of compliments about Jerry Springer.
Wouldn't want to watch his show, either.
same here. although when i've seen him interviewed on the daily show, the discussions he has with Stewart are always excellent.
Wouldn't want to watch his show, either.
same here. although when i've seen him interviewed on the daily show, the discussions he has with Stewart are always excellent.
| theorellior | 2009-07-03 10:50:10 PM |
TheGreatZarquon: Either she'd had too much caffeine, was on uppers or was goddamn scared.
Well, Tripp's other grandmother does have the hookup on ice.
Well, Tripp's other grandmother does have the hookup on ice.
| SilentStrider
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2009-07-03 10:51:32 PM |
dorko16: Might anyone have a link to the old Palin/Biden photoshop thread? The google does nothing.
here you go (new window)
here you go (new window)
| Majick Thise
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2009-07-03 10:55:43 PM |
ohpleaseohpleaseohplease
| whizbang
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2009-07-03 10:57:46 PM |
Klingon Penis: Bathia_Mapes: I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
basemetal: This would make sense but I'd like to hear it from another source than a dude's blog.
Did a Scandal Sink the U.S.S. Palin? (new window)
We knew about the Caribou Barbie's Dreamhouse irregularities back in August; some more dirt must have come up recently.
basemetal: This would make sense but I'd like to hear it from another source than a dude's blog.
Did a Scandal Sink the U.S.S. Palin? (new window)
We knew about the Caribou Barbie's Dreamhouse irregularities back in August; some more dirt must have come up recently.
| FuturePastNow
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2009-07-03 10:58:00 PM |
what_now: Someone has never seen TimeCube.
As I was posting that, I knew someone would take it as a challenge and top it.
As I was posting that, I knew someone would take it as a challenge and top it.
| dorko16
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2009-07-03 10:58:07 PM |
SilentStrider: dorko16: Might anyone have a link to the old Palin/Biden photoshop thread? The google does nothing.
here you go (new window)
Thank you
You have no idea how happy that makes me
here you go (new window)
Thank you
You have no idea how happy that makes me
| Da Bum
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2009-07-03 10:58:38 PM |
Real America would scream in pain if this is even remotely true.
And I'll be laughing my ass completely off.
And I'll be laughing my ass completely off.
| John Paul Jones
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2009-07-03 11:00:03 PM |
BOOOOOOOOOO.
This is bullshiat. Yes, it will take this f*cking moron out of US politics for good, but dammit woman, I wanted a fiery crash followed by an entire city block exploding. I wanted a sex scandal with Lance Bass, discovery of a Cabo tryst with Tina Fey, a porno shot/movie of you with Tommy Lee, maybe even a suggestive phone call recording with Larry the Cable Guy (git 'r dun indeed). Pedestrian and obvious Republican corruption isn't enough.
Look, lady, you have a woefully subpar IQ and are basically a poster child for the problems facing the GOP, couldn't you do it in style? If you need pointers, call Larry Craig. That dude knows how it's done.
This is bullshiat. Yes, it will take this f*cking moron out of US politics for good, but dammit woman, I wanted a fiery crash followed by an entire city block exploding. I wanted a sex scandal with Lance Bass, discovery of a Cabo tryst with Tina Fey, a porno shot/movie of you with Tommy Lee, maybe even a suggestive phone call recording with Larry the Cable Guy (git 'r dun indeed). Pedestrian and obvious Republican corruption isn't enough.
Look, lady, you have a woefully subpar IQ and are basically a poster child for the problems facing the GOP, couldn't you do it in style? If you need pointers, call Larry Craig. That dude knows how it's done.
| TheGreatZarquon | 2009-07-03 11:03:55 PM |
Da Bum: Real America would scream in pain if this is even remotely true.
And I'll be laughing my ass completely off.
You know, the usage of the word "real" in contexts such as this has always bothered me. Is that "Real America" as opposed to some fake one we're seeing? Or "Real People" shopping at Wal-Mart rather than fake animatronic shoppers that other stores must put up in the windows?
And I'll be laughing my ass completely off.
You know, the usage of the word "real" in contexts such as this has always bothered me. Is that "Real America" as opposed to some fake one we're seeing? Or "Real People" shopping at Wal-Mart rather than fake animatronic shoppers that other stores must put up in the windows?
| Megain
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2009-07-03 11:04:37 PM |
this should get fun
| John Dewey | 2009-07-03 11:07:26 PM |
Only Sarah Palin could get 100+ comments before hitting the main page.
| Walker
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2009-07-03 11:07:36 PM |
Hey GOP, she was your hope to win back the White House in 2012. How's that working out for ya?
BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
| Donald_McRonald | 2009-07-03 11:08:55 PM |
She sounded nervous and hurried in her speech today.
| John Paul Jones
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2009-07-03 11:10:32 PM |
TheGreatZarquon: You know, the usage of the word "real" in contexts such as this has always bothered me. Is that "Real America" as opposed to some fake one we're seeing? Or "Real People" shopping at Wal-Mart rather than fake animatronic shoppers that other stores must put up in the windows?
You... you do understand the concept of sarcasm, yes? If not, start here (^).
You... you do understand the concept of sarcasm, yes? If not, start here (^).
| alonzinator
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2009-07-03 11:12:03 PM |
| John Paul Jones
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2009-07-03 11:13:10 PM |
John Dewey: Only Sarah Palin could get 100+ comments before hitting the main page.
Yep. She's the validation that the GOP has completely destroyed itself. Permanent majority indeed.
Yep. She's the validation that the GOP has completely destroyed itself. Permanent majority indeed.
| TheGreatZarquon | 2009-07-03 11:16:38 PM |
John Paul Jones: TheGreatZarquon: You know, the usage of the word "real" in contexts such as this has always bothered me. Is that "Real America" as opposed to some fake one we're seeing? Or "Real People" shopping at Wal-Mart rather than fake animatronic shoppers that other stores must put up in the windows?
You... you do understand the concept of sarcasm, yes? If not, start here (^).
I understand sarcasm perfectly well. It was just an observation.
/
You... you do understand the concept of sarcasm, yes? If not, start here (^).
I understand sarcasm perfectly well. It was just an observation.
/
| Donald_McRonald | 2009-07-03 11:20:06 PM |
DamnYankees: The proof is in the punctuation. The transcript was posted to her official Web site earlier today. The style is closer to a high schooler's angry diary entry than to an official speech. I've read a lot of speech transcripts. They tend to have fewer words in all capital letters. And fewer things in quotation marks that aren't actually, you know, quotes.
Not to mention eighteen exclamation points!
Not to mention eighteen exclamation points!
| eyehate
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2009-07-03 11:26:10 PM |
The only thing that would make this even better is finding out Letterman got her axed.
| Da Bum
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2009-07-03 11:27:36 PM |
TheGreatZarquon: You know, the usage of the word "real" in contexts such as this has always bothered me. Is that "Real America" as opposed to some fake one we're seeing? Or "Real People" shopping at Wal-Mart rather than fake animatronic shoppers that other stores must put up in the windows?
I'm sure you knew that I was mocking her by using the term "Real America". That bothered me too, because obviously I used to live in "Real America" but now live in "Fake America" so I'm sad that I'm not living where she considers real people to live.
What a cunning stunt! And a stunning... well... you know.
I'm sure you knew that I was mocking her by using the term "Real America". That bothered me too, because obviously I used to live in "Real America" but now live in "Fake America" so I'm sad that I'm not living where she considers real people to live.
What a cunning stunt! And a stunning... well... you know.
| ragekage
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2009-07-03 11:31:16 PM |
John Dewey: Only Sarah Palin could get 100+ comments before hitting the main page.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
| muck4doo
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2009-07-03 11:32:29 PM |
Of course this will be much worse than Obamas deal with Rezko if it turns out to be true.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
| WorldCitizen
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2009-07-03 11:32:33 PM |
John Paul Jones: John Dewey: Only Sarah Palin could get 100+ comments before hitting the main page.
Yep. She's the validation that the GOP has completely destroyed itself. Permanent majority indeed.
The only thing that I am more certain of than the GOP having become an awful party of anti-intellectualism is the capacity of the Democratic Party to ruin the political opportunity of a century. The GOP will come back not because they have good ideas, but because the Democrats will self implode. Just look at Congress.
Yep. She's the validation that the GOP has completely destroyed itself. Permanent majority indeed.
The only thing that I am more certain of than the GOP having become an awful party of anti-intellectualism is the capacity of the Democratic Party to ruin the political opportunity of a century. The GOP will come back not because they have good ideas, but because the Democrats will self implode. Just look at Congress.
| Benjamin the Rogue | 2009-07-03 11:33:09 PM |
If she ends up in jail, who's gonna run in 2012 with Joe the Plumber?
| John Paul Jones
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2009-07-03 11:33:30 PM |
WorldCitizen: The GOP will come back not because they have good ideas, but because the Democrats will self implode. Just look at Congress.
Sadly, you're right. And I'm definitely not a Democrat.
Sadly, you're right. And I'm definitely not a Democrat.
| John Paul Jones
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2009-07-03 11:34:05 PM |
Benjamin the Rogue: If she ends up in jail, who's gonna run in 2012 with Joe the Plumber?
Wally the Fixer?
Wally the Fixer?
| Joey JoJo Junior Shabadoo | 2009-07-03 11:35:22 PM |
The Republican party is crumbling. Good.
/Conservative
/Conservative
| John Paul Jones
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2009-07-03 11:36:48 PM |
Joey JoJo Junior Shabadoo: The Republican party is crumbling. Good.
/Conservative
Same here. Maybe someone will show up who knows what Ike meant.
/Conservative
Same here. Maybe someone will show up who knows what Ike meant.
| Klingon Penis | 2009-07-03 11:37:22 PM |
Joey JoJo Junior Shabadoo: The Republican party is crumbling. Good.
/Conservative
Bring on the Constitution Party!
/Conservative
Bring on the Constitution Party!
| GAT_00
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2009-07-03 11:39:17 PM |
muck4doo: Of course this will be much worse than Obamas deal with Rezko if it turns out to be true.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
That's the best spin you've got? "No matter how bad it is, someone else did something worse, right? I'm sure they did. I have no idea what she did, but I'm sure the other guy did something worse." Oh, this is going to be so much fun to watch the GOP spin.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
That's the best spin you've got? "No matter how bad it is, someone else did something worse, right? I'm sure they did. I have no idea what she did, but I'm sure the other guy did something worse." Oh, this is going to be so much fun to watch the GOP spin.
| John Paul Jones
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2009-07-03 11:40:34 PM |
muck4doo: Of course this will be much worse than Obamas deal with Rezko if it turns out to be true.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
So I assume the keyboard drool guard is working? Fantastic!
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
So I assume the keyboard drool guard is working? Fantastic!
| muck4doo
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2009-07-03 11:44:34 PM |
John Paul Jones: muck4doo: Of course this will be much worse than Obamas deal with Rezko if it turns out to be true.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
So I assume the keyboard drool guard is working? Fantastic!
I've never heard of that. Can I try out yours?GAT_00: muck4doo: Of course this will be much worse than Obamas deal with Rezko if it turns out to be true.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
That's the best spin you've got? "No matter how bad it is, someone else did something worse, right? I'm sure they did. I have no idea what she did, but I'm sure the other guy did something worse." Oh, this is going to be so much fun to watch the GOP spin.
If you can come up with something more solid than hearsay from Brads' Blog, get back to me. You didn't mind this kind of shiat when it was Obama doing scumbag shiat with Rezko. You don't mind it at all as long as there is a (D) after the shiatbags name.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
So I assume the keyboard drool guard is working? Fantastic!
I've never heard of that. Can I try out yours?GAT_00: muck4doo: Of course this will be much worse than Obamas deal with Rezko if it turns out to be true.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
That's the best spin you've got? "No matter how bad it is, someone else did something worse, right? I'm sure they did. I have no idea what she did, but I'm sure the other guy did something worse." Oh, this is going to be so much fun to watch the GOP spin.
If you can come up with something more solid than hearsay from Brads' Blog, get back to me. You didn't mind this kind of shiat when it was Obama doing scumbag shiat with Rezko. You don't mind it at all as long as there is a (D) after the shiatbags name.
| Donald_McRonald | 2009-07-03 11:47:08 PM |
muck4doo: If you can come up with something more solid than hearsay from Brads' Blog, get back to me. You didn't mind this kind of shiat when it was Obama doing scumbag shiat with Rezko. You don't mind it at all as long as there is a (D) after the shiatbags name.
Please continue.
Please continue.
| ragekage
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2009-07-03 11:48:48 PM |
muck4doo: John Paul Jones: muck4doo: Of course this will be much worse than Obamas deal with Rezko if it turns out to be true.
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
So I assume the keyboard drool guard is working? Fantastic!
I've never heard of that. Can I try out yours?
DUDE!
You said "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?"
BURN! BURN, DUDE! OH, DUDE! BURN!
/Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
So I assume the keyboard drool guard is working? Fantastic!
I've never heard of that. Can I try out yours?
DUDE!
You said "I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?"
BURN! BURN, DUDE! OH, DUDE! BURN!
| kaminariko
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2009-07-03 11:51:00 PM |
I'd like to say it's good riddance to bad rubbish, but something tells me, like a big dinner at Taco Bell, we're not really finished with Sarah Palin
| Da Bum
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2009-07-03 11:51:20 PM |
muck4doo: If you can come up with something more solid than hearsay from Brads' Blog, get back to me. You didn't mind this kind of shiat when it was Obama doing scumbag shiat with Rezko. You don't mind it at all as long as there is a (D) after the shiatbags name.
And Bush was a great President too! You forgot that.
Careful though Muck4doo, you notice that vein bulging in your face? You may cause yourself that have a stroke and we don't need a Real American strokin' out on us.
By the way, tell me how you really feel about Obama. You don't have to sugar coat it for me.
/Voted for Obama
//Registered Republican too
///Wishes that the party was actually "conservative"
And Bush was a great President too! You forgot that.
Careful though Muck4doo, you notice that vein bulging in your face? You may cause yourself that have a stroke and we don't need a Real American strokin' out on us.
By the way, tell me how you really feel about Obama. You don't have to sugar coat it for me.
/Voted for Obama
//Registered Republican too
///Wishes that the party was actually "conservative"
| kashari
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2009-07-03 11:51:55 PM |
| whizbang
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2009-07-03 11:56:51 PM |
Donald_McRonald: muck4doo: If you can come up with something more solid than hearsay from Brads' Blog, get back to me. You didn't mind this kind of shiat when it was Obama doing scumbag shiat with Rezko. You don't mind it at all as long as there is a (D) after the shiatbags name.
Please continue.
Please continue.
| Procedural Texture
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2009-07-04 12:03:07 AM |
A prescient one by The Why Not Guy:
| GAT_00
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2009-07-04 12:08:01 AM |
muck4doo: You don't mind it at all as long as there is a (R) after the shiatbags name.
While your statement isn't true for me, that one is true for you. And like I said earlier, given how quickly she resigned, there might even be indictments by Monday or Tuesday. Let's see how quiet you get then.
While your statement isn't true for me, that one is true for you. And like I said earlier, given how quickly she resigned, there might even be indictments by Monday or Tuesday. Let's see how quiet you get then.
| muck4doo
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2009-07-04 12:10:54 AM |
GAT_00: muck4doo: You don't mind it at all as long as there is a (R) after the shiatbags name.
While your statement isn't true for me, that one is true for you. And like I said earlier, given how quickly she resigned, there might even be indictments by Monday or Tuesday. Let's see how quiet you get then.
Let's see something happen and go from there rather than rely on hearsay from Brad's Blog. If there is wrong doing I'll be there with you to criticize her. Right now this is just stupid. You go with Brad though.
While your statement isn't true for me, that one is true for you. And like I said earlier, given how quickly she resigned, there might even be indictments by Monday or Tuesday. Let's see how quiet you get then.
Let's see something happen and go from there rather than rely on hearsay from Brad's Blog. If there is wrong doing I'll be there with you to criticize her. Right now this is just stupid. You go with Brad though.
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 12:13:55 AM |
Why'd she dive for the mat, then, muck4doo? I'm not saying that this is necessarily the correct scenario, but whatever it is, it's pretty damn bad.
Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
| furiousxgeorge
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2009-07-04 12:17:15 AM |
muck4doo: tard
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
| muck4doo
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2009-07-04 12:20:15 AM |
Occam's Chainsaw: Why'd she dive for the mat, then, muck4doo? I'm not saying that this is necessarily the correct scenario, but whatever it is, it's pretty damn bad.
Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
You obviously don't know me if that is what you think. It does look good in the browser though, so let's run with it from there.
Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
You obviously don't know me if that is what you think. It does look good in the browser though, so let's run with it from there.
| GAT_00
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2009-07-04 12:20:45 AM |
muck4doo: Let's see something happen and go from there rather than rely on hearsay from Brad's Blog. If there is wrong doing I'll be there with you to criticize her. Right now this is just stupid. You go with Brad though.
So why do you think she without warning quit her governorship and basically quit politics? Yesterday she was gearing up already for 2012, and now she's done, now warning. Yeah, nothing bad brewing for her and the GOP.
Occam's Chainsaw: Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
He's confused, because he knows he'll back up any Repub, so he assumes that we must do the same for the Democratic Party. I can think of a bunch of times I didn't defend Obama, you'll never see me defending people like Jefferson either, but nope, that kind of reality doesn't matter.
So why do you think she without warning quit her governorship and basically quit politics? Yesterday she was gearing up already for 2012, and now she's done, now warning. Yeah, nothing bad brewing for her and the GOP.
Occam's Chainsaw: Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
He's confused, because he knows he'll back up any Repub, so he assumes that we must do the same for the Democratic Party. I can think of a bunch of times I didn't defend Obama, you'll never see me defending people like Jefferson either, but nope, that kind of reality doesn't matter.
| muck4doo
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2009-07-04 12:21:48 AM |
furiousxgeorge: muck4doo: tard
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
You have anything else to say, tard?
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
You have anything else to say, tard?
| elvisbloom
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2009-07-04 12:23:13 AM |
Obvious tag out to lunch?
| GAT_00
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2009-07-04 12:23:20 AM |
muck4doo: You obviously don't know me if that is what you think. It does look good in the browser though, so let's run with it from there.
Funny, I don't recall an instance where you weren't defending a Repub.
Funny, I don't recall an instance where you weren't defending a Repub.
| whizbang
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2009-07-04 12:23:25 AM |
muck4doo: Let's see something happen and go from there rather than rely on hearsay from Brad's Blog. If there is wrong doing I'll be there with you to criticize her. Right now this is just stupid. You go with Brad though.
The suddenness of her announcement raises the question about whether Palin resigned to avert a major scandal. One logical place to start looking is the affair that has Alaska political circles buzzing: an alleged scandal centered around a building contractor, Spenard Building Supplies, with close ties to Palin and her husband, Todd.
Many political observers in Alaska are fixated on rumors that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002.
source: klingon's link
The suddenness of her announcement raises the question about whether Palin resigned to avert a major scandal. One logical place to start looking is the affair that has Alaska political circles buzzing: an alleged scandal centered around a building contractor, Spenard Building Supplies, with close ties to Palin and her husband, Todd.
Many political observers in Alaska are fixated on rumors that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002.
source: klingon's link
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 12:24:36 AM |
muck4doo: Lovely non-answer. Let's try this again, shall we: why'd she dive for the mat?
GAT_00: He's confused, because he knows he'll back up any Repub, so he assumes that we must do the same for the Democratic Party. I can think of a bunch of times I didn't defend Obama, you'll never see me defending people like Jefferson either, but nope, that kind of reality doesn't matter.
I voted for Obama. Wanna watch me criticize him, right here and now, off-the-cuff? His policies regarding all things space is stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. NASA and the NSF don't need cuts, they need quintuple the budget and a mandate for a permanent presence on the moon by the early 2020s.
GAT_00: He's confused, because he knows he'll back up any Repub, so he assumes that we must do the same for the Democratic Party. I can think of a bunch of times I didn't defend Obama, you'll never see me defending people like Jefferson either, but nope, that kind of reality doesn't matter.
I voted for Obama. Wanna watch me criticize him, right here and now, off-the-cuff? His policies regarding all things space is stupid. Stupid stupid stupid. NASA and the NSF don't need cuts, they need quintuple the budget and a mandate for a permanent presence on the moon by the early 2020s.
| horse-pheathers
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2009-07-04 12:24:49 AM |
what_now: DamnYankees: I can't think of a single elected Republican I actually admire/like/don't think is a liar and an idiot.
Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe.
This. Especially Olympia.
/One of the few Republicans to ever get my vote.
Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe.
This. Especially Olympia.
/One of the few Republicans to ever get my vote.
| muck4doo
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2009-07-04 12:25:10 AM |
GAT_00: muck4doo: Let's see something happen and go from there rather than rely on hearsay from Brad's Blog. If there is wrong doing I'll be there with you to criticize her. Right now this is just stupid. You go with Brad though.
So why do you think she without warning quit her governorship and basically quit politics? Yesterday she was gearing up already for 2012, and now she's done, now warning. Yeah, nothing bad brewing for her and the GOP.
Occam's Chainsaw: Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
He's confused, because he knows he'll back up any Repub, so he assumes that we must do the same for the Democratic Party. I can think of a bunch of times I didn't defend Obama, you'll never see me defending people like Jefferson either, but nope, that kind of reality doesn't matter.
Keep speculating guy. That's all you're doing. That's all Brad is doing. You are doing yourself a disfavor by running with crap yanked out of Brads' ass as if it is farking gold nuggets.
So why do you think she without warning quit her governorship and basically quit politics? Yesterday she was gearing up already for 2012, and now she's done, now warning. Yeah, nothing bad brewing for her and the GOP.
Occam's Chainsaw: Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
He's confused, because he knows he'll back up any Repub, so he assumes that we must do the same for the Democratic Party. I can think of a bunch of times I didn't defend Obama, you'll never see me defending people like Jefferson either, but nope, that kind of reality doesn't matter.
Keep speculating guy. That's all you're doing. That's all Brad is doing. You are doing yourself a disfavor by running with crap yanked out of Brads' ass as if it is farking gold nuggets.
| Da Bum
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2009-07-04 12:27:23 AM |
muck4doo: furiousxgeorge: muck4doo: tard
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
You have anything else to say, tard?
You should just give up now before you make yourself look like an even larger twatwaffle.
Whats the difference between your mouth, Sarah's mouth, and Sarahs vagina? Not everything that comes out of her vagina is retarded.
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
You have anything else to say, tard?
You should just give up now before you make yourself look like an even larger twatwaffle.
Whats the difference between your mouth, Sarah's mouth, and Sarahs vagina? Not everything that comes out of her vagina is retarded.
| muck4doo
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2009-07-04 12:27:38 AM |
whizbang: muck4doo: Let's see something happen and go from there rather than rely on hearsay from Brad's Blog. If there is wrong doing I'll be there with you to criticize her. Right now this is just stupid. You go with Brad though.
The suddenness of her announcement raises the question about whether Palin resigned to avert a major scandal. One logical place to start looking is the affair that has Alaska political circles buzzing: an alleged scandal centered around a building contractor, Spenard Building Supplies, with close ties to Palin and her husband, Todd.
Many political observers in Alaska are fixated on rumors that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002.
source: klingon's link
*facepalm*
The suddenness of her announcement raises the question about whether Palin resigned to avert a major scandal. One logical place to start looking is the affair that has Alaska political circles buzzing: an alleged scandal centered around a building contractor, Spenard Building Supplies, with close ties to Palin and her husband, Todd.
Many political observers in Alaska are fixated on rumors that federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months, searching for evidence that Palin and her husband Todd steered lucrative contracts to the well-connected company in exchange for gifts like the construction of their home on pristine Lake Lucille in 2002.
source: klingon's link
*facepalm*
| WorldCitizen
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2009-07-04 12:28:51 AM |
I like how Fox News is taking every angle on this other than that perhaps something has gone wrong and is forcing her out.
Fox has her quitting because the partisan sniping from the other side was stopping her from doing her job or too much for her family or that she's running for higher office. The only possible negative context they will give it as through "Democrats immediately pounced on the news."
Fox has her quitting because the partisan sniping from the other side was stopping her from doing her job or too much for her family or that she's running for higher office. The only possible negative context they will give it as through "Democrats immediately pounced on the news."
| heap | 2009-07-04 12:30:45 AM |
Klingon Penis: Nothing makes sense other than her either being in big trouble (other shoe about to drop, etc.) or that she's a complete moron.
one should never relegate to either/or what may be better explained by both/and.
one should never relegate to either/or what may be better explained by both/and.
| muck4doo
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2009-07-04 12:31:43 AM |
Da Bum: muck4doo: furiousxgeorge: muck4doo: tard
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
You have anything else to say, tard?
You should just give up now before you make yourself look like an even larger twatwaffle.
Whats the difference between your mouth, Sarah's mouth, and Sarahs vagina? Not everything that comes out of her vagina is retarded.
You think that one up all by yourself?
/Come up with a reliable source, and I'll shut up.
//You are happy though with blogs as a source as long as they say something you want to hear.
///Thank the gods you've never touched a vagina.
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
You have anything else to say, tard?
You should just give up now before you make yourself look like an even larger twatwaffle.
Whats the difference between your mouth, Sarah's mouth, and Sarahs vagina? Not everything that comes out of her vagina is retarded.
You think that one up all by yourself?
/Come up with a reliable source, and I'll shut up.
//You are happy though with blogs as a source as long as they say something you want to hear.
///Thank the gods you've never touched a vagina.
| Bucky Katt
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2009-07-04 12:32:28 AM |
muck4doo: Occam's Chainsaw: Why'd she dive for the mat, then, muck4doo? I'm not saying that this is necessarily the correct scenario, but whatever it is, it's pretty damn bad.
Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
You obviously don't know me if that is what you think. It does look good in the browser though, so let's run with it from there.
Oh, and call me when you see a non-troll defending William Jefferson (D). You'll defend any and every Repub to the death, no matter how heinous.
You obviously don't know me if that is what you think. It does look good in the browser though, so let's run with it from there.
| dahmers love zombie
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2009-07-04 12:32:54 AM |
ragekage: John Dewey: Only Sarah Palin could get 100+ comments before hitting the main page.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 12:35:17 AM |
| whizbang
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2009-07-04 12:36:17 AM |
muck4doo: /Libtard tools are being libtardish.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
//Good thing you have Brad's Blog to be Johnny on the spot.
| muck4doo
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2009-07-04 12:38:16 AM |
Brad's Blog. A trusted news source for Libtards since 2009.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
| ragekage
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2009-07-04 12:39:58 AM |
dahmers love zombie: ragekage: John Dewey: Only Sarah Palin could get 100+ comments before hitting the main page.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
I actually chortled, sir. Bravo.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
I actually chortled, sir. Bravo.
| Donald_McRonald | 2009-07-04 12:42:23 AM |
muck4doo: Brad's Blog. A trusted news source for Libtards since 2009.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
It's funny enough that you repeatedly get the name wrong. Your inability to punctuate is just icing on the cake.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
It's funny enough that you repeatedly get the name wrong. Your inability to punctuate is just icing on the cake.
| muck4doo
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2009-07-04 12:44:32 AM |
Donald_McRonald: muck4doo: Brad's Blog. A trusted news source for Libtards since 2009.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
It's funny enough that you repeatedly get the name wrong. Your inability to punctuate is just icing on the cake.
That must mean the conspiracy is true! Thanks for your brilliant insight into the matter.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
It's funny enough that you repeatedly get the name wrong. Your inability to punctuate is just icing on the cake.
That must mean the conspiracy is true! Thanks for your brilliant insight into the matter.
| Sid_6.7
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2009-07-04 12:44:35 AM |
Say this is true...why resign?
It just makes you look guilty as hell. I'm not buying it. I despise her, but I don't think this is accurate.
It just makes you look guilty as hell. I'm not buying it. I despise her, but I don't think this is accurate.
| Da Bum
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2009-07-04 12:45:08 AM |
muck4doo: You think that one up all by yourself?
/Come up with a reliable source, and I'll shut up.
//You are happy though with blogs as a source as long as they say something you want to hear.
///Thank the gods you've never touched a vagina.
Nope... I just made a play on a joke. But you already knew that because it always gets your anus twisted up.
Am I claiming that this source is 100% true? No. However, it does raise interesting questions about the suddenness of Sarah's resignation and how poor her speech was.
//I'm sure Brad's Blog is more reliable then "Pajamas Media" or "World Net Daily"
///You think that an asshole is a vagina and you've touched millions of vaginas.
/Come up with a reliable source, and I'll shut up.
//You are happy though with blogs as a source as long as they say something you want to hear.
///Thank the gods you've never touched a vagina.
Nope... I just made a play on a joke. But you already knew that because it always gets your anus twisted up.
Am I claiming that this source is 100% true? No. However, it does raise interesting questions about the suddenness of Sarah's resignation and how poor her speech was.
//I'm sure Brad's Blog is more reliable then "Pajamas Media" or "World Net Daily"
///You think that an asshole is a vagina and you've touched millions of vaginas.
| GAT_00
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2009-07-04 12:46:24 AM |
muck4doo: Keep speculating guy. That's all you're doing. That's all Brad is doing. You are doing yourself a disfavor by running with crap yanked out of Brads' ass as if it is farking gold nuggets.
Her speech transcript is in a green up the page. Go read it and tell me she isn't fleeing for her life.
Her speech transcript is in a green up the page. Go read it and tell me she isn't fleeing for her life.
| Megain
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2009-07-04 12:46:40 AM |
dahmers love zombie: ragekage: John Dewey: Only Sarah Palin could get 100+ comments before hitting the main page.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
very nice
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
very nice
| Da Bum
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2009-07-04 12:46:40 AM |
Sid_6.7: Say this is true...why resign?
It just makes you look guilty as hell. I'm not buying it. I despise her, but I don't think this is accurate.
She's just being a Maverick and doing Mavericky things.
It just makes you look guilty as hell. I'm not buying it. I despise her, but I don't think this is accurate.
She's just being a Maverick and doing Mavericky things.
| kxs401 | 2009-07-04 12:48:00 AM |
Huh, maybe dad was right -- Sarah Palin is the next Ronald Regan. Except Regan was never indicted... he only should have been.
| GAT_00
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2009-07-04 12:48:23 AM |
muck4doo: Brad's Blog. A trusted news source for Libtards since 2009.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
GAT_00: Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either
2xhelix: If this is true,
Bathia_Mapes: I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
Yep, everyone here is taking this as truth. And that was only in the first what, dozen comments?
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
GAT_00: Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either
2xhelix: If this is true,
Bathia_Mapes: I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
Yep, everyone here is taking this as truth. And that was only in the first what, dozen comments?
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 12:48:47 AM |
Sid_6.7: Say this is true...why resign?
It just makes you look guilty as hell. I'm not buying it. I despise her, but I don't think this is accurate.
Because it's better to quit than to be fired.
It just makes you look guilty as hell. I'm not buying it. I despise her, but I don't think this is accurate.
Because it's better to quit than to be fired.
| Donald_McRonald | 2009-07-04 12:49:58 AM |
GAT_00: muck4doo: Keep speculating guy. That's all you're doing. That's all Brad is doing. You are doing yourself a disfavor by running with crap yanked out of Brads' ass as if it is farking gold nuggets.
Her speech transcript is in a green up the page. Go read it and tell me she isn't fleeing for her life.
You really have to watch it to get a sense of how unnerved she seemed.
Her speech transcript is in a green up the page. Go read it and tell me she isn't fleeing for her life.
You really have to watch it to get a sense of how unnerved she seemed.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 12:50:00 AM |
| CaptainWes | 2009-07-04 12:51:01 AM |
| Lost Thought 00 | 2009-07-04 12:53:09 AM |
SilentStrider: I'd never vote for him, but I wouldn't mind having some barbecue with him.
Particularly since he's fallen off the wagon. I'll bet he dug up all his old delicious recipe's.
Particularly since he's fallen off the wagon. I'll bet he dug up all his old delicious recipe's.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 12:53:37 AM |
Shocking. Her stepping down makes this news so surprising.
| sgilman | 2009-07-04 12:53:57 AM |
GAT_00: Bathia_Mapes: I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either. But something big happened, that's for sure. And the concept is plausible given her history of abuse of power.
Given the history behind this story and the official story of Todd and a few contracting buddies (that Sarah blocked from the record) built the house, I'd say it's very plausible.
It would also explain why the house is so ugly.
Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either. But something big happened, that's for sure. And the concept is plausible given her history of abuse of power.
Given the history behind this story and the official story of Todd and a few contracting buddies (that Sarah blocked from the record) built the house, I'd say it's very plausible.
It would also explain why the house is so ugly.
| Oh No Melon | 2009-07-04 12:54:59 AM |
DAMN Im good. I call this when I saw it break on TV. I award myself one internets!
| whizbang
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2009-07-04 12:55:51 AM |
Donald_McRonald: GAT_00: muck4doo: Keep speculating guy. That's all you're doing. That's all Brad is doing. You are doing yourself a disfavor by running with crap yanked out of Brads' ass as if it is farking gold nuggets.
Her speech transcript is in a green up the page. Go read it and tell me she isn't fleeing for her life.
You really have to watch it to get a sense of how unnerved she seemed.
U.S. Senator Mark Begich released the following statement today after Governor Sarah Palin's announcement that she is resigning:
"I'm as surprised as all Alaskans by Governor Palin's decision to step down with nearly two years left in her term. There was speculation she would not seek re-election, but she gave no indication of a resignation when I met with her for 45 minutes in her Anchorage office two days ago."
Her speech transcript is in a green up the page. Go read it and tell me she isn't fleeing for her life.
You really have to watch it to get a sense of how unnerved she seemed.
U.S. Senator Mark Begich released the following statement today after Governor Sarah Palin's announcement that she is resigning:
"I'm as surprised as all Alaskans by Governor Palin's decision to step down with nearly two years left in her term. There was speculation she would not seek re-election, but she gave no indication of a resignation when I met with her for 45 minutes in her Anchorage office two days ago."
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 12:56:07 AM |
basemetal: This would make sense but I'd like to hear it from another source than a dude's blog.
bradblog is hardly just some dude's blog, despite the name. It is a pretty big one. I will wait for confirmation but bradblog isn't small-time in the blog department.
bradblog is hardly just some dude's blog, despite the name. It is a pretty big one. I will wait for confirmation but bradblog isn't small-time in the blog department.
| Lost Thought 00 | 2009-07-04 12:56:14 AM |
You realize that this whole affair opens up a hole in the 2012 nomination scene. A hole which can only be filled by none other than Michele Bachman herself.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 12:56:53 AM |
sgilman: GAT_00: Bathia_Mapes: I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either. But something big happened, that's for sure. And the concept is plausible given her history of abuse of power.
Given the history behind this story and the official story of Todd and a few contracting buddies (that Sarah blocked from the record) built the house, I'd say it's very plausible.
It would also explain why the house is so ugly.
Bolstered also by the fact that several prominent politicians in the state have already been caught laundering graft through real estate investments/improvements.
It seems to be the trend.
/Sad for SBS if it's true, though. That'd leave us with just Home Depot & Lowes.
Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either. But something big happened, that's for sure. And the concept is plausible given her history of abuse of power.
Given the history behind this story and the official story of Todd and a few contracting buddies (that Sarah blocked from the record) built the house, I'd say it's very plausible.
It would also explain why the house is so ugly.
Bolstered also by the fact that several prominent politicians in the state have already been caught laundering graft through real estate investments/improvements.
It seems to be the trend.
/Sad for SBS if it's true, though. That'd leave us with just Home Depot & Lowes.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 12:58:02 AM |
deadapostle: She's going to cut a deal and go into witless protection.
Now they just have to find a city in America where nobody knows who she is.
She should have taken a left at Albeqoikie.
Now they just have to find a city in America where nobody knows who she is.
She should have taken a left at Albeqoikie.
| Dr.Zom | 2009-07-04 12:59:22 AM |
When Sanford went missing I was joking about the Obama Secret Team but now I'm starting to wonder.......
deadapostle: I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
It definitely had a Miss South Carolina vibe to it.
deadapostle: I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
It definitely had a Miss South Carolina vibe to it.
| deadsanta | 2009-07-04 01:00:20 AM |
Although this is just pure bullshiat atm, I still wonder about items like these: "Todd Palin told Fox News that he built the two-story, 3,450-square-foot, four-bedroom, four-bath, wood house himself, with the help of contractors he described as 'buddies.'"
Built a 3500 sq ft home with just a bit of help from his friends, eh? Are his buddies Amish or something?
Built a 3500 sq ft home with just a bit of help from his friends, eh? Are his buddies Amish or something?
| Podna | 2009-07-04 01:01:00 AM |
muck4doo: Brad's Blog. A trusted news source for Libtards since 2009.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
Maybe even a flashing police Light that spins when something big pops up... oh wait
//at work cant post images (they disabled right click Feels like a mac user)
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
Maybe even a flashing police Light that spins when something big pops up... oh wait
//at work cant post images (they disabled right click Feels like a mac user)
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 01:01:22 AM |
Sabyen91: basemetal: This would make sense but I'd like to hear it from another source than a dude's blog.
bradblog is hardly just some dude's blog, despite the name. It is a pretty big one. I will wait for confirmation but bradblog isn't small-time in the blog department.
So tallest midget?
bradblog is hardly just some dude's blog, despite the name. It is a pretty big one. I will wait for confirmation but bradblog isn't small-time in the blog department.
So tallest midget?
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:01:33 AM |
GAT_00: muck4doo: Brad's Blog. A trusted news source for Libtards since 2009.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
GAT_00: Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either
2xhelix: If this is true,
Bathia_Mapes: I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
Yep, everyone here is taking this as truth. And that was only in the first what, dozen comments?
Well, alternate-world looks different when you are inside it.
/You guys should come up with a catchy tune for Brads' Blog breaking news.
GAT_00: Oh hell, I wouldn't take it as true either
2xhelix: If this is true,
Bathia_Mapes: I might believe this if another reliable source and not this guy's blog.
Yep, everyone here is taking this as truth. And that was only in the first what, dozen comments?
Well, alternate-world looks different when you are inside it.
| whizbang
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2009-07-04 01:02:26 AM |
U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, today made the following statement after Gov. Sarah Palin's announcement that she plans to step down as governor later this month.
"I am deeply disappointed that the Governor has decided to abandon the State and her constituents before her term has concluded."
"I am deeply disappointed that the Governor has decided to abandon the State and her constituents before her term has concluded."
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:02:30 AM |
deadsanta:
Built a 3500 sq ft home with just a bit of help from his friends, eh? Are his buddies Amish or something?
Ahhh, it was... uh... Habitat for Humanity. Yeah, that's the ticket!
Built a 3500 sq ft home with just a bit of help from his friends, eh? Are his buddies Amish or something?
Ahhh, it was... uh... Habitat for Humanity. Yeah, that's the ticket!
| Semi-Sane | 2009-07-04 01:02:34 AM |
It is amusing that such credible sources like the Brag Blog and anonymous Twitter posts are assumed to be true by Farkers. There is no need for verification. Just believe everything you read.
My money is the article linked above is nothing but a hoax.
My money is the article linked above is nothing but a hoax.
| moriarty23 | 2009-07-04 01:03:07 AM |
I hate the right, and love the right, hate the right, love the right:
It really isn't funny when you guys try to treat my government like a Sunday school lesson, but it does tickle me when the adults call you out for running a party like a Sunday school lesson.
It really isn't funny when you guys try to treat my government like a Sunday school lesson, but it does tickle me when the adults call you out for running a party like a Sunday school lesson.
| Snake Vargas | 2009-07-04 01:03:25 AM |
Wow. You can see her almost cry in the video as she forces out her words while thinking of the coming storm.
Sad.
Sad.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:03:39 AM |
Occam's Chainsaw: Sabyen91: basemetal: This would make sense but I'd like to hear it from another source than a dude's blog.
bradblog is hardly just some dude's blog, despite the name. It is a pretty big one. I will wait for confirmation but bradblog isn't small-time in the blog department.
So tallest midget?
Maybe. That midget will grow if this news proves out.
bradblog is hardly just some dude's blog, despite the name. It is a pretty big one. I will wait for confirmation but bradblog isn't small-time in the blog department.
So tallest midget?
Maybe. That midget will grow if this news proves out.
| cchris_39 | 2009-07-04 01:04:20 AM |
WTF is brad's blog?
For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one. If "brad" is even remotely correct, she would not be resigning with nothing in exchange, but saving that trump card for when it's needed most.
Idiots.
I guess hopefuls will greenlight about anything.........
For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one. If "brad" is even remotely correct, she would not be resigning with nothing in exchange, but saving that trump card for when it's needed most.
Idiots.
I guess hopefuls will greenlight about anything.........
| speedballtucker | 2009-07-04 01:04:45 AM |
It's Fitzmas in July!
| sgilman | 2009-07-04 01:05:15 AM |
dahmers love zombie: ragekage: John Dewey: Only Sarah Palin could get 100+ comments before hitting the main page.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
You win 5 internet tubes.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
You win 5 internet tubes.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:05:26 AM |
cchris_39: WTF is brad's blog?
For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one. If "brad" is even remotely correct, she would not be resigning with nothing in exchange, but saving that trump card for when it's needed most.
Idiots.
I guess hopefuls will greenlight about anything.........
You think she resigned for nothing? I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one. If "brad" is even remotely correct, she would not be resigning with nothing in exchange, but saving that trump card for when it's needed most.
Idiots.
I guess hopefuls will greenlight about anything.........
You think she resigned for nothing? I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:06:04 AM |
whizbang: U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, today made the following statement after Gov. Sarah Palin's announcement that she plans to step down as governor later this month.
"I am deeply disappointed that the Governor has decided to abandon the State and her constituents before her term has concluded."
Wrong graphic (if implying fleeing from the sinking ship).
Palin doesn't have a lot of support from the Alaskan Republicans. She alienated most of them.
As a matter of fact, the GOP formed a coalition with the Dems there to keep her in line.
"I am deeply disappointed that the Governor has decided to abandon the State and her constituents before her term has concluded."
Wrong graphic (if implying fleeing from the sinking ship).
Palin doesn't have a lot of support from the Alaskan Republicans. She alienated most of them.
As a matter of fact, the GOP formed a coalition with the Dems there to keep her in line.
| Wombatzu | 2009-07-04 01:07:17 AM |
Semi-Sane: It is amusing that such credible sources like the Brag Blog and anonymous Twitter posts are assumed to be true by Farkers. There is no need for verification. Just believe everything you read.
My money is the article linked above is nothing but a hoax.
but you're to smart to fall for that shiat! good for you!
the way this has gone down, i'll be surprised if it is just embezzlement.
as an Obama voter full of liberal hate for Republicans, this is all very disappointing for me. i was looking forward to Palin farking things up for the GOP for years to come. her going down gives the Reps a better chance at 2012.
My money is the article linked above is nothing but a hoax.
but you're to smart to fall for that shiat! good for you!
the way this has gone down, i'll be surprised if it is just embezzlement.
as an Obama voter full of liberal hate for Republicans, this is all very disappointing for me. i was looking forward to Palin farking things up for the GOP for years to come. her going down gives the Reps a better chance at 2012.
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:07:32 AM |
whizbang: federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months
Betcha Obama gets blamed by the nutters for hunting down his opponents
Betcha Obama gets blamed by the nutters for hunting down his opponents
| Podna | 2009-07-04 01:08:01 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: Palin doesn't have a lot of support from the Alaskan Republicans. She alienated most of them.
didn't she go and stab a lot of people who helped her in Alaska in the back? I feel bad for jean boy did he ever get his GED?
didn't she go and stab a lot of people who helped her in Alaska in the back? I feel bad for jean boy did he ever get his GED?
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 01:08:38 AM |
Semi-Sane: It is amusing that such credible sources like the Brag Blog and anonymous Twitter posts are assumed to be true by Farkers. There is no need for verification. Just believe everything you read.
He's citing a well-known investigation. This can't be the first you've heard of it.
I agree that one single blog isn't a very reliable foundation, but he isn't making up shiat we've never heard of. We'll know if he's right in the next few days, I'm sure...
He's citing a well-known investigation. This can't be the first you've heard of it.
I agree that one single blog isn't a very reliable foundation, but he isn't making up shiat we've never heard of. We'll know if he's right in the next few days, I'm sure...
| Mcavity | 2009-07-04 01:08:47 AM |
dammit.
I was looking forward to the inevitable Palin gay sex scandle.
I was looking forward to the inevitable Palin gay sex scandle.
| Donald_McRonald | 2009-07-04 01:08:56 AM |
elchip: whizbang: federal investigators have been seizing paperwork from SBS in recent months
Betcha Obama gets blamed by the nutters for hunting down his opponents
It's what he was trained to do in his birthplace of Kenya.
Betcha Obama gets blamed by the nutters for hunting down his opponents
It's what he was trained to do in his birthplace of Kenya.
| moriarty23 | 2009-07-04 01:09:01 AM |
Sabyen91: cchris_39: WTF is brad's blog?
For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one. If "brad" is even remotely correct, she would not be resigning with nothing in exchange, but saving that trump card for when it's needed most.
Idiots.
I guess hopefuls will greenlight about anything.........
You think she resigned for nothing? I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Shame isn't a variable.
For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one. If "brad" is even remotely correct, she would not be resigning with nothing in exchange, but saving that trump card for when it's needed most.
Idiots.
I guess hopefuls will greenlight about anything.........
You think she resigned for nothing? I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Shame isn't a variable.
| rackrent
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2009-07-04 01:09:08 AM |
| furiousxgeorge
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2009-07-04 01:09:18 AM |
muck4doo: furiousxgeorge: muck4doo: tard
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
You have anything else to say, tard?
Aww, poor baby. Go to bed, everything will be okay in the morning. This is just a bad dream, Sarah is okay!
Tard as an insult? I don't think Sarah Palin will appreciate you defending her by insulting young Trig.
You have anything else to say, tard?
Aww, poor baby. Go to bed, everything will be okay in the morning. This is just a bad dream, Sarah is okay!
| Dr.Zom | 2009-07-04 01:09:21 AM |
Palin Resignation: 11 Theories Why (new window)
| cchris_39 | 2009-07-04 01:09:49 AM |
Sabyen91: You think she resigned for nothing? I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Yeah yeah.......and you are the same guy who (if she didn't resign) would be spouting off about how meaningless it was to get two more years governing a remote state of 700,000.
Sorry that she cut off that argument for you and put herself squarely in the middle of the debate, but not everybody on our side builds their career by voting "present" all the time.
Yeah yeah.......and you are the same guy who (if she didn't resign) would be spouting off about how meaningless it was to get two more years governing a remote state of 700,000.
Sorry that she cut off that argument for you and put herself squarely in the middle of the debate, but not everybody on our side builds their career by voting "present" all the time.
| TheShavingofOccam123
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2009-07-04 01:10:26 AM |
Har Dee Har Har.
I hope she suffers the rest of her life for the atrocity of embezzlement.
Har Har Har.
/what do you expect from someone who would share a ticket with a guy who worked for a Mafia member and married the guy's daughter. She inherited all of her father's mob money.
I hope she suffers the rest of her life for the atrocity of embezzlement.
Har Har Har.
/what do you expect from someone who would share a ticket with a guy who worked for a Mafia member and married the guy's daughter. She inherited all of her father's mob money.
| Harry_Seldon | 2009-07-04 01:10:56 AM |
Mark Sanford has got to be feeling pretty good right now in consideration of the stories which continue to bury him under the fold.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:11:10 AM |
cchris_39: WTF is brad's blog?
For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one. If "brad" is even remotely correct, she would not be resigning with nothing in exchange, but saving that trump card for when it's needed most.
Idiots.
I guess hopefuls will greenlight about anything.........
Brad's Blog I don't know. But I do know Shannyn Moore, the cited source.
Shannyn was an Alaska TV journalist, is now a contributor to MSNBC and Huffington Post. She's been following Palin closely for years.
There's also Andrew Halcro, a former Alaskan legislator (R), who has a post on his blog saying to expect the scandal to break open soon.
They've been talking about this for several weeks up there. Looks like talk is soon turning into action....
For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one. If "brad" is even remotely correct, she would not be resigning with nothing in exchange, but saving that trump card for when it's needed most.
Idiots.
I guess hopefuls will greenlight about anything.........
Brad's Blog I don't know. But I do know Shannyn Moore, the cited source.
Shannyn was an Alaska TV journalist, is now a contributor to MSNBC and Huffington Post. She's been following Palin closely for years.
There's also Andrew Halcro, a former Alaskan legislator (R), who has a post on his blog saying to expect the scandal to break open soon.
They've been talking about this for several weeks up there. Looks like talk is soon turning into action....
| rohar
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2009-07-04 01:12:24 AM |
cchris_39: Sorry that she cut off that argument for you and put herself squarely in the middle of the debate, but not everybody on our side builds their career by voting "present" all the time.
Damn I wish they would sometimes.
Damn I wish they would sometimes.
| Fjornir
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2009-07-04 01:12:44 AM |
I'm about as anti-Palin as you could fine but... "same windows, same wood, same products." kinda sounds hollow when you realize you're talking about a town with a population of less than six thousand. How many contractors are in town who can take on such a project? How many suppliers for them to order from?
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-04 01:12:47 AM |
| numb3r5ev3n | 2009-07-04 01:12:55 AM |
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:13:30 AM |
| Oakenshield | 2009-07-04 01:13:41 AM |
Oh boy. It's already been said 200 times, but this is gonna be sweet. The old ignore list has been cleared in preparation, relevant retards highlighted in bright blue. Can't wait.
| Podna | 2009-07-04 01:13:46 AM |
cchris_39: Sorry that she cut off that argument for you and put herself squarely in the middle of the debate, but not everybody on our side builds their career by voting "present" all the time.
don't see how someone who can't even do a full term (winning election not withstanding IE, Bush/Obama ect) I mean the talking points against her are going to to be easy and not hard to nail her ass to the wall.
Mitt can just say "How can you be qualified to be President when you can't even do a full term as gov of alaska?"
I mean crap atleast Mitt and Mike did serve full terms for their respective offices
don't see how someone who can't even do a full term (winning election not withstanding IE, Bush/Obama ect) I mean the talking points against her are going to to be easy and not hard to nail her ass to the wall.
Mitt can just say "How can you be qualified to be President when you can't even do a full term as gov of alaska?"
I mean crap atleast Mitt and Mike did serve full terms for their respective offices
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:14:07 AM |
cchris_39: Sabyen91: You think she resigned for nothing? I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Yeah yeah.......and you are the same guy who (if she didn't resign) would be spouting off about how meaningless it was to get two more years governing a remote state of 700,000.
Sorry that she cut off that argument for you and put herself squarely in the middle of the debate, but not everybody on our side builds their career by voting "present" all the time.
You can tell me all you like about what kind of guy I am but you still can't deny that Palin leaving office is not slightly odd. Or you would but you are a right-wing tool.
Yeah yeah.......and you are the same guy who (if she didn't resign) would be spouting off about how meaningless it was to get two more years governing a remote state of 700,000.
Sorry that she cut off that argument for you and put herself squarely in the middle of the debate, but not everybody on our side builds their career by voting "present" all the time.
You can tell me all you like about what kind of guy I am but you still can't deny that Palin leaving office is not slightly odd. Or you would but you are a right-wing tool.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:15:49 AM |
Fjornir: I'm about as anti-Palin as you could fine but... "same windows, same wood, same products." kinda sounds hollow when you realize you're talking about a town with a population of less than six thousand. How many contractors are in town who can take on such a project? How many suppliers for them to order from?
Dude. She just quit her gravy job for no reason. I have a hard time believing you are as "anti-Palin" as they come if you don't think something is coming down the pike.
Dude. She just quit her gravy job for no reason. I have a hard time believing you are as "anti-Palin" as they come if you don't think something is coming down the pike.
| InmanRoshi | 2009-07-04 01:15:52 AM |
Putting aside Palin and the Cult of Personality that entials ... it's not totally out there to suspect that a high ranking politician from one of the most corrupt state's in the union with close political connections to one of the most corrupt senator's in recent history might have some dirt on their hands.
And yes, we've "known" about some of her dirty laundry for a while (the house, the Wasilla sports complex), but it takes time to build federal cases. High profile cases take months, if not years to build ... and this one is about as high profile as it gets. The prosecutors aren't going indict until the evidence is air tight and the ducks are all in a row.
And yes, we've "known" about some of her dirty laundry for a while (the house, the Wasilla sports complex), but it takes time to build federal cases. High profile cases take months, if not years to build ... and this one is about as high profile as it gets. The prosecutors aren't going indict until the evidence is air tight and the ducks are all in a row.
| GAT_00
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2009-07-04 01:16:51 AM |
| cchris_39 | 2009-07-04 01:18:16 AM |
Sabyen91: You can tell me all you like about what kind of guy I am but you still can't deny that Palin leaving office is not slightly odd. Or you would but you are a right-wing tool.
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:18:35 AM |
InmanRoshi: Putting aside Palin and the Cult of Personality that entials ... it's not totally out there to suspect that a high ranking politician from one of the most corrupt state's in the union with close political connections to one of the most corrupt senator's in recent history might have some dirt on their hands.
She doesn't have close ties to Ted. Again, she back-stabbed the party while she won the governorship. She doesn't have a lot of friends amongst the Alaska GOP.
She doesn't have close ties to Ted. Again, she back-stabbed the party while she won the governorship. She doesn't have a lot of friends amongst the Alaska GOP.
| strothgar | 2009-07-04 01:18:42 AM |
What if, now this is a big if....someone just made her think an indictment was coming.
Imagine, setting her up to think she is going to take a big fall, and then nothing happens.
It would be LOLworthy
Imagine, setting her up to think she is going to take a big fall, and then nothing happens.
It would be LOLworthy
| AtomPeepers | 2009-07-04 01:19:13 AM |
I bet she would be crazy in the sack right now....
RAWRRRRRR!!!!!!
/TMZ here I come!
/email in profile Sexy Sarah. I respect your Alaskian Hillbilly Wauz.
RAWRRRRRR!!!!!!
/TMZ here I come!
/email in profile Sexy Sarah. I respect your Alaskian Hillbilly Wauz.
| Oscar_Madisons_cleaning_lady | 2009-07-04 01:19:34 AM |
Surprising farewell address; she's usually so erudite and articulate.
| Tsunami Ditka | 2009-07-04 01:19:59 AM |
strothgar: What if, now this is a big if....someone just made her think an indictment was coming.
Imagine, setting her up to think she is going to take a big fall, and then nothing happens.
It would be LOLworthy
I'll bet she blames it on Letterman.
Imagine, setting her up to think she is going to take a big fall, and then nothing happens.
It would be LOLworthy
I'll bet she blames it on Letterman.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:20:43 AM |
cchris_39: Sabyen91: You can tell me all you like about what kind of guy I am but you still can't deny that Palin leaving office is not slightly odd. Or you would but you are a right-wing tool.
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
You really deny that if she wanted a political career she should get through her term?
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
You really deny that if she wanted a political career she should get through her term?
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:20:56 AM |
GAT_00: Oh, that is hilarious.
Not as hilarious as
\from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
Not as hilarious as
\from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:21:30 AM |
cchris_39: Sabyen91: You can tell me all you like about what kind of guy I am but you still can't deny that Palin leaving office is not slightly odd. Or you would but you are a right-wing tool.
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
She is finished, thank the good lord above.
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
She is finished, thank the good lord above.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:22:06 AM |
elchip: GAT_00: Oh, that is hilarious.
Not as hilarious as
\from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
Oh, that is harsh.
Not as hilarious as
\from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
Oh, that is harsh.
| Nina_Hartley's_Ass | 2009-07-04 01:23:19 AM |
cchris_39: Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
Heh.
Heh.
| Antonio_Talibanderas | 2009-07-04 01:25:17 AM |
deadapostle: Okay, I just watched her resignation video (new window).
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
Smacking and licking lips repeatedly.... Ridiculously fast talking... disjointed, jumbled thoughts... Vague, seemingly unplanned and unexplained behavior (quitting)... She RAN off camera - could not get out of there fast enough.
Having been around a few cocaine fiends back in the day, I can't tell you how familiar this all looks. If she's not on stimulants, she's in the middle of an emotional crisis that is producing an insane amount of adrenaline. It looked similar to a bipolar 'mania' episode as well.
She was in a panic. Plain and simple. This was not the look of someone who is off to do something she believes is bigger and better for the state - or the nation. She put on her best game face, but she did not present as someone truly optimistic about her future.
Bizarre = calling people who stick around to finish the job they signed up to do as "quitters" in a speech announcing that she is quitting the job SHE signed up to do. Freepers are claiming she finished everything she wanted to accomplish in Alaska and can go home now. She's not quitting - she already finished! WTF?!
I think she is having a nervous breakdown - and true to Palin style, she wanted to go out there and announce herself. She could have released a statement, but that's not her style.
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
Smacking and licking lips repeatedly.... Ridiculously fast talking... disjointed, jumbled thoughts... Vague, seemingly unplanned and unexplained behavior (quitting)... She RAN off camera - could not get out of there fast enough.
Having been around a few cocaine fiends back in the day, I can't tell you how familiar this all looks. If she's not on stimulants, she's in the middle of an emotional crisis that is producing an insane amount of adrenaline. It looked similar to a bipolar 'mania' episode as well.
She was in a panic. Plain and simple. This was not the look of someone who is off to do something she believes is bigger and better for the state - or the nation. She put on her best game face, but she did not present as someone truly optimistic about her future.
Bizarre = calling people who stick around to finish the job they signed up to do as "quitters" in a speech announcing that she is quitting the job SHE signed up to do. Freepers are claiming she finished everything she wanted to accomplish in Alaska and can go home now. She's not quitting - she already finished! WTF?!
I think she is having a nervous breakdown - and true to Palin style, she wanted to go out there and announce herself. She could have released a statement, but that's not her style.
| strothgar | 2009-07-04 01:26:25 AM |
Sabyen91: elchip: GAT_00: Oh, that is hilarious.
Not as hilarious as
\from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
Oh, that is harsh.
Not as hilarious as
\from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
Oh, that is harsh.
| Klingon Penis | 2009-07-04 01:26:56 AM |
cchris_39: For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one.
She's neither in a war, nor fighting hard. She's quitting.
She's neither in a war, nor fighting hard. She's quitting.
| rohar
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2009-07-04 01:27:50 AM |
cchris_39: Sabyen91: You can tell me all you like about what kind of guy I am but you still can't deny that Palin leaving office is not slightly odd. Or you would but you are a right-wing tool.
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
Except that she's working with a party that advertises (read doesn't necessarily follow) the idea of personal responsibility and she is obviously shirking that responsibility.
No matter what happens, she's no longer a viable candidate and could never make it through the primaries. One more cake walk adversary for the Democrats has been removed.
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
Except that she's working with a party that advertises (read doesn't necessarily follow) the idea of personal responsibility and she is obviously shirking that responsibility.
No matter what happens, she's no longer a viable candidate and could never make it through the primaries. One more cake walk adversary for the Democrats has been removed.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:29:30 AM |
I take back everything I have said. Quitting your job is a good idea, Sarah.
| 12349876 | 2009-07-04 01:29:40 AM |
Does this means A-Rod is the next one to go crazy?
| Dr.Zom | 2009-07-04 01:29:47 AM |
Some people in the Mudflats thread said they had relatives with meth problems and Palin's delivery during her resignation speech was similar to meth users.
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
| strothgar | 2009-07-04 01:29:54 AM |
Klingon Penis: cchris_39: For you novices out there, resignation is the last step in a hard fought brutal war, not the first one.
She's neither in a war, nor fighting hard. She's quitting.
I think this is all an internet circle jerk right now. We won't get a full grasp on this until at least next Thursday or Friday, as this long weekend is the time when these stories break to throw the 24 news cycles off their rotation. With the Jackson story being more popular, she picked a great time to cut and run.
She's neither in a war, nor fighting hard. She's quitting.
I think this is all an internet circle jerk right now. We won't get a full grasp on this until at least next Thursday or Friday, as this long weekend is the time when these stories break to throw the 24 news cycles off their rotation. With the Jackson story being more popular, she picked a great time to cut and run.
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 01:30:20 AM |
The thing I keep thinking about is, if Palin truly did this out of sincerely wanting to protect her family and get out of this vicious racket -- or even if she did it to kick off her '12 presidential campaign ...
Why did you do it in a press conference called so hastily even the Alaskan press couldn't get there, in the news blackhole and political vacuum that is Friday, July 3?
That's a tactic used to hide BAD news. So the parlor game becomes, what's the bad news here being hidden?
Why did you do it in a press conference called so hastily even the Alaskan press couldn't get there, in the news blackhole and political vacuum that is Friday, July 3?
That's a tactic used to hide BAD news. So the parlor game becomes, what's the bad news here being hidden?
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 01:31:26 AM |
I get no kick from champagne!
Mere alcohol, doesn't thrill me at all!
So tell me why should it be true?
That I give a shiat about you!
Mere alcohol, doesn't thrill me at all!
So tell me why should it be true?
That I give a shiat about you!
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:31:40 AM |
FishingWithFredo: That's a tactic used to hide BAD news. So the parlor game becomes, what's the bad news here being hidden?
It's fascinating, isn't it?
I'm sure you were a bigger fan of Palin than I was, but this story has something in it for everyone!
It's fascinating, isn't it?
I'm sure you were a bigger fan of Palin than I was, but this story has something in it for everyone!
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:32:15 AM |
FishingWithFredo: The thing I keep thinking about is, if Palin truly did this out of sincerely wanting to protect her family and get out of this vicious racket -- or even if she did it to kick off her '12 presidential campaign ...
Why did you do it in a press conference called so hastily even the Alaskan press couldn't get there, in the news blackhole and political vacuum that is Friday, July 3?
That's a tactic used to hide BAD news. So the parlor game becomes, what's the bad news here being hidden?
Well, yeah, it is because she has a spontaneous personality.
Why did you do it in a press conference called so hastily even the Alaskan press couldn't get there, in the news blackhole and political vacuum that is Friday, July 3?
That's a tactic used to hide BAD news. So the parlor game becomes, what's the bad news here being hidden?
Well, yeah, it is because she has a spontaneous personality.
| strothgar | 2009-07-04 01:32:31 AM |
FishingWithFredo: ...what's the bad news here being hidden?
I don't think we even know or will for at least a week. Hell, it could be something terribly personal, like a terminal illness of someone in the family, or the cash/sport complex thing has enough steam to actually get them popped.
I don't think we even know or will for at least a week. Hell, it could be something terribly personal, like a terminal illness of someone in the family, or the cash/sport complex thing has enough steam to actually get them popped.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:32:33 AM |
Dr.Zom: Some people in the Mudflats thread said they had relatives with meth problems and Palin's delivery during her resignation speech was similar to meth users.
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
That's just stupid trolling. There's a thread at Kos that implies it, too.
/hate when people who agree with me also embarrass me....
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
That's just stupid trolling. There's a thread at Kos that implies it, too.
/hate when people who agree with me also embarrass me....
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 01:32:35 AM |
rohar: No matter what happens, she's no longer a viable candidate and could never make it through the primaries. One more cake walk adversary for the Democrats has been removed.
I'm starting to get worried that this is some kind of Machiavellian plot by Romney to knock off all of his opponents.
I'm starting to get worried that this is some kind of Machiavellian plot by Romney to knock off all of his opponents.
| monkeyinafez | 2009-07-04 01:33:26 AM |
Breaking News! Alex Rodriguez has just announced he is taking an extended leave from the Yankees. What the hell is going on here?
| ju66l3r
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2009-07-04 01:33:37 AM |
So much for a pitbull with lipstick...
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:34:41 AM |
Mentat: I'm starting to get worried that this is some kind of Machiavellian plot by Romney to knock off all of his opponents.
Or by Obama!!1!
"Wonder if Barry found some damning dirt on her. All the potential 2012 candidates for the GOP have been dropping like flies lately. Chicago thug politics at work."
Or by Obama!!1!
"Wonder if Barry found some damning dirt on her. All the potential 2012 candidates for the GOP have been dropping like flies lately. Chicago thug politics at work."
| strothgar | 2009-07-04 01:34:42 AM |
| propasaurus
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2009-07-04 01:35:42 AM |
Sabyen91: You think she resigned for nothing? I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
... and it goes nowhere.
... and it goes nowhere.
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:35:57 AM |
ju66l3r: So much for a pitbull with lipstick...
What's the difference between a hockey mom and a lily?
One has both male and female sexual organs, and the other is a flower.
\thank you, i'll be here all night... ripping off a jon stewart joke
What's the difference between a hockey mom and a lily?
One has both male and female sexual organs, and the other is a flower.
\thank you, i'll be here all night... ripping off a jon stewart joke
| 12349876 | 2009-07-04 01:36:06 AM |
elchip: "Wonder if Barry found some damning dirt on her. All the potential 2012 candidates for the GOP have been dropping like flies lately. Chicago thug politics at work."
So it's okay to make dirt but it's bad to find it?
So it's okay to make dirt but it's bad to find it?
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:36:20 AM |
propasaurus: Sabyen91: You think she resigned for nothing? I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
... and it goes nowhere.
Shush, you want to drive the price down?
... and it goes nowhere.
Shush, you want to drive the price down?
| strothgar | 2009-07-04 01:37:01 AM |
12349876: elchip: "Wonder if Barry found some damning dirt on her. All the potential 2012 candidates for the GOP have been dropping like flies lately. Chicago thug politics at work."
So it's okay to make dirt but it's bad to find it?
Well, half the people who vote for those guys are under six feet of it.
So it's okay to make dirt but it's bad to find it?
Well, half the people who vote for those guys are under six feet of it.
| emkajii | 2009-07-04 01:38:24 AM |
That article was pure speculation.
She probably quite so that she could go Parah Salin.
She probably quite so that she could go Parah Salin.
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 01:38:35 AM |
Lost Thought 00: You realize that this whole affair opens up a hole in the 2012 nomination scene. A hole which can only be filled by none other than Michele Bachman herself.
I need to go to bed, all I could read on your post, over and over again were the highlighted words, and I kept saying to myself, yes I agree, she is an asshole.
I need to go to bed, all I could read on your post, over and over again were the highlighted words, and I kept saying to myself, yes I agree, she is an asshole.
| OgreMagi | 2009-07-04 01:39:04 AM |
When someone references a blog that mentions something bad about Obama and friends, it's quickly rejected since it's "just a blog". Why is everyone so quick to accept this crap that's from just a blog?
I love double standards.
I love double standards.
| hej | 2009-07-04 01:39:47 AM |
I understand that she normally has a hard time forming a sentence, but she sounded nervous as hell. I couldn't stand to actually watch the whole thing, and she was only marginally coherent, so I'm curious if she actually cited a reason for resigning when she gave this press conference.
| whizbang
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2009-07-04 01:40:15 AM |
| strothgar | 2009-07-04 01:40:30 AM |
OgreMagi: When someone references a blog that mentions something bad about Obama and friends, it's quickly rejected since it's "just a blog". Why is everyone so quick to accept this crap that's from just a blog?
I love double standards.
Why are you racist?
/I keed
I love double standards.
Why are you racist?
/I keed
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:41:14 AM |
OgreMagi: When someone references a blog that mentions something bad about Obama and friends, it's quickly rejected since it's "just a blog". Why is everyone so quick to accept this crap that's from just a blog?
I love double standards.
Well, jeez, I guess Palin is just resigning for the hell of it. You convinced me!
I love double standards.
Well, jeez, I guess Palin is just resigning for the hell of it. You convinced me!
| Dr.Zom | 2009-07-04 01:41:16 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: Dr.Zom: Some people in the Mudflats thread said they had relatives with meth problems and Palin's delivery during her resignation speech was similar to meth users.
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
That's just stupid trolling. There's a thread at Kos that implies it, too.
/hate when people who agree with me also embarrass me....
I've never spent any time around meth users so I have no idea how they act.
She did seem jacked up on something, probably adrenalin. Listen to her breath in while she's speaking. She's tight as a tick. She can barely inhale.
And her speech makes no kind of sense whatsoever. It's just buzzwords linked together with sports metaphors.
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
That's just stupid trolling. There's a thread at Kos that implies it, too.
/hate when people who agree with me also embarrass me....
I've never spent any time around meth users so I have no idea how they act.
She did seem jacked up on something, probably adrenalin. Listen to her breath in while she's speaking. She's tight as a tick. She can barely inhale.
And her speech makes no kind of sense whatsoever. It's just buzzwords linked together with sports metaphors.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:41:57 AM |
hej: ...so I'm curious if she actually cited a reason for resigning when she gave this press conference.
None credible.
None credible.
| MrCab
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2009-07-04 01:42:00 AM |
And tonight I shall feast upon the sweet delicious tears of Palin supporters.
Slight tangent - am I the only one thinking that some McCain aide, in picking her as the VP candidate, has ended up ruining her life? In exchange for 15 minutes of fame, a bunch of scandals that, sadly, would probably have just gotten swept under the rug, are now going to make her get pwned into prison or huge fines. Her career in politics is pretty much over at this point (though I'm sure Fox News will find a slot for her between 11 and 2).
Ah well. The country is better off for it.
Slight tangent - am I the only one thinking that some McCain aide, in picking her as the VP candidate, has ended up ruining her life? In exchange for 15 minutes of fame, a bunch of scandals that, sadly, would probably have just gotten swept under the rug, are now going to make her get pwned into prison or huge fines. Her career in politics is pretty much over at this point (though I'm sure Fox News will find a slot for her between 11 and 2).
Ah well. The country is better off for it.
| OgreMagi | 2009-07-04 01:42:06 AM |
strothgar: OgreMagi: When someone references a blog that mentions something bad about Obama and friends, it's quickly rejected since it's "just a blog". Why is everyone so quick to accept this crap that's from just a blog?
I love double standards.
Why are you racist?
/I keed
I'm not racist. I hate everyone equally.
Except the Irish. Fark the Irish.
I love double standards.
Why are you racist?
/I keed
I'm not racist. I hate everyone equally.
Except the Irish. Fark the Irish.
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 01:42:31 AM |
DNC Spokesman Brad Woodhouse:
"Either Sarah Palin is leaving the people of Alaska high and dry to pursue her long shot national political ambitions or she simply can't handle the job now that her popularity has dimmed and oil revenues are down. Either way - her decision to abandon her post and the people of Alaska who elected her continues a pattern of bizarre behavior that more than anything else may explain the decision she made today."
I don't know if I would go so far as to say "continues a pattern of bizarre behavior" ...
But unless Palin comes forward soon with an explanation that makes all of this nonsense make sense ...
I ...
Uh ...
Agree completely with the DNC's statement.
/Can someone please put up the exploding "Scanners" head guy?
"Either Sarah Palin is leaving the people of Alaska high and dry to pursue her long shot national political ambitions or she simply can't handle the job now that her popularity has dimmed and oil revenues are down. Either way - her decision to abandon her post and the people of Alaska who elected her continues a pattern of bizarre behavior that more than anything else may explain the decision she made today."
I don't know if I would go so far as to say "continues a pattern of bizarre behavior" ...
But unless Palin comes forward soon with an explanation that makes all of this nonsense make sense ...
I ...
Uh ...
Agree completely with the DNC's statement.
/Can someone please put up the exploding "Scanners" head guy?
| strothgar | 2009-07-04 01:42:33 AM |
Dr.Zom: Lenny_da_Hog: Dr.Zom: Some people in the Mudflats thread said they had relatives with meth problems and Palin's delivery during her resignation speech was similar to meth users.
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
That's just stupid trolling. There's a thread at Kos that implies it, too.
/hate when people who agree with me also embarrass me....
I've never spent any time around meth users so I have no idea how they act.
She did seem jacked up on something, probably adrenalin. Listen to her breath in while she's speaking. She's tight as a tick. She can barely inhale.
And her speech makes no kind of sense whatsoever. It's just buzzwords linked together with sports metaphors.
She is going for the gold, and will re-purpose herself at the start of this new period of play
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
That's just stupid trolling. There's a thread at Kos that implies it, too.
/hate when people who agree with me also embarrass me....
I've never spent any time around meth users so I have no idea how they act.
She did seem jacked up on something, probably adrenalin. Listen to her breath in while she's speaking. She's tight as a tick. She can barely inhale.
And her speech makes no kind of sense whatsoever. It's just buzzwords linked together with sports metaphors.
She is going for the gold, and will re-purpose herself at the start of this new period of play
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 01:42:51 AM |
Let me guess. Sarah Palin's resignation has something to do with her lying about her pussy being so wet?
/David Letterman should never have apologized.
/David Letterman should never have apologized.
| Antonio_Talibanderas | 2009-07-04 01:43:29 AM |
cchris_39: Sabyen91: You can tell me all you like about what kind of guy I am but you still can't deny that Palin leaving office is not slightly odd. Or you would but you are a right-wing tool.
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
Not when one of her biggest problems as a national candidate was that she was still a little green and needed more experience governing. I recall Pat Buchanan lecturing Chris Matthews on this - something like: "she needs to go back to Alaska, continue to govern with tremendous popularity and support and come back in 2012 with a record of successful conservative leadership."
She absolutely can not run for president with a record of quitting halfway through her first term - a term she needed to finish in order to form a record of successful leadership.
Campaigning and fundraising for other politicians != political leadership experience. For God's sake, any celeb/athlete/musician, etc. with a little star power can rally a crowd.
Politically, she is done. That doesn't mean she can't be influential in other ways, but she certainly isn't bolstering her credentials by doing what she claims she is doing.
It's out of the box (no pun intended) but really, how does she benefit from staying up there and governing God's Frozen People for one more year.
She's a long shot at best. Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
Not when one of her biggest problems as a national candidate was that she was still a little green and needed more experience governing. I recall Pat Buchanan lecturing Chris Matthews on this - something like: "she needs to go back to Alaska, continue to govern with tremendous popularity and support and come back in 2012 with a record of successful conservative leadership."
She absolutely can not run for president with a record of quitting halfway through her first term - a term she needed to finish in order to form a record of successful leadership.
Campaigning and fundraising for other politicians != political leadership experience. For God's sake, any celeb/athlete/musician, etc. with a little star power can rally a crowd.
Politically, she is done. That doesn't mean she can't be influential in other ways, but she certainly isn't bolstering her credentials by doing what she claims she is doing.
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 01:43:32 AM |
elchip: Mentat: I'm starting to get worried that this is some kind of Machiavellian plot by Romney to knock off all of his opponents.
Or by Obama!!1!
"Wonder if Barry found some damning dirt on her. All the potential 2012 candidates for the GOP have been dropping like flies lately. Chicago thug politics at work."
Please tag URL's from free republic as such. I hate giving them clicks, also I find the need to use CC cleaner every time I click a freeper or wharrgarbl net daily link by accident; just to purify my computer.
This gets annoying, because then I have to go in and re-enter all my passwords for FARK, Amazon, the Weather Channel etc.
Or by Obama!!1!
"Wonder if Barry found some damning dirt on her. All the potential 2012 candidates for the GOP have been dropping like flies lately. Chicago thug politics at work."
Please tag URL's from free republic as such. I hate giving them clicks, also I find the need to use CC cleaner every time I click a freeper or wharrgarbl net daily link by accident; just to purify my computer.
This gets annoying, because then I have to go in and re-enter all my passwords for FARK, Amazon, the Weather Channel etc.
| Nina_Hartley's_Ass | 2009-07-04 01:44:15 AM |
OgreMagi: When someone references a blog that mentions something bad about Obama and friends, it's quickly rejected since it's "just a blog".
If Obama and friends suddenly resign for NO APPARENT REASON those blogs may gain some credibility.
Or at least some interest.
If Obama and friends suddenly resign for NO APPARENT REASON those blogs may gain some credibility.
Or at least some interest.
| rohar
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2009-07-04 01:45:03 AM |
Mentat: rohar: No matter what happens, she's no longer a viable candidate and could never make it through the primaries. One more cake walk adversary for the Democrats has been removed.
I'm starting to get worried that this is some kind of Machiavellian plot by Romney to knock off all of his opponents.
Nah, there's a couple of intelligent republicans out there, they scare the hell out of me, but they're intelligent. I'd put Romney on the end of the long list of suspects.
I'm starting to get worried that this is some kind of Machiavellian plot by Romney to knock off all of his opponents.
Nah, there's a couple of intelligent republicans out there, they scare the hell out of me, but they're intelligent. I'd put Romney on the end of the long list of suspects.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:45:19 AM |
Dr.Zom:
And her speech makes no kind of sense whatsoever. It's just buzzwords linked together with sports metaphors.
That part of her speech is normal. That's how she's always spoken, until McCainCorp trained her to be a Coen Bros. movie caricature.
As tight as she was on the information (like, not telling the Lite Gov until less than 48 hours before the announcement), I'll bet either she or Meghan Stapleton wrote it. No professional speechwriters to make her look competent to America.
And her speech makes no kind of sense whatsoever. It's just buzzwords linked together with sports metaphors.
That part of her speech is normal. That's how she's always spoken, until McCainCorp trained her to be a Coen Bros. movie caricature.
As tight as she was on the information (like, not telling the Lite Gov until less than 48 hours before the announcement), I'll bet either she or Meghan Stapleton wrote it. No professional speechwriters to make her look competent to America.
| mud_shark | 2009-07-04 01:45:31 AM |
St_Francis_P: 2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
You can count on that - Today, my uber-Republican friend and co-worker said (after I informed him of her resignation) said that there are 2 camps - those that love Palin and those that hate her.
I disagreed and said I didn't belong in either camp. A scandal wouldn't surprise me, but I would find it surprising that she resigned ahead of any news or rumors of a scandal. Most people of her caliber (or lack thereof) seem to think they can ride out the storm.
Then again, she is batshiat-crazy as demonstrated by her campaign against Letterman - Letterman is not funny, but he wasn't actually making a joke about screwing her 14-year old and even if he was those types of things are best left ignored.
It's like HST once wrote about LBJ....According to HST, LBJ once told his campaign manager to start a rumor about his opponent farking farm animals. His campaign manager told him that was crazy because no one would ever believe it. LBJ told him that didn't matter - let's make the farker deny it. I don't know if all this is true, but LBJ was elected president after that.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
You can count on that - Today, my uber-Republican friend and co-worker said (after I informed him of her resignation) said that there are 2 camps - those that love Palin and those that hate her.
I disagreed and said I didn't belong in either camp. A scandal wouldn't surprise me, but I would find it surprising that she resigned ahead of any news or rumors of a scandal. Most people of her caliber (or lack thereof) seem to think they can ride out the storm.
Then again, she is batshiat-crazy as demonstrated by her campaign against Letterman - Letterman is not funny, but he wasn't actually making a joke about screwing her 14-year old and even if he was those types of things are best left ignored.
It's like HST once wrote about LBJ....According to HST, LBJ once told his campaign manager to start a rumor about his opponent farking farm animals. His campaign manager told him that was crazy because no one would ever believe it. LBJ told him that didn't matter - let's make the farker deny it. I don't know if all this is true, but LBJ was elected president after that.
| cchris_39 | 2009-07-04 01:45:33 AM |
Sabyen91: You really deny that if she wanted a political career she should get through her term?
Yes. If she resigns, she gets to do whatever she wants.
So let me throw it back at you: Do you really that another year as Governor of Alaska adds anything to her resume?
Moreover, I have more respect for her than I do Obama, McCain, Bush, Clinton, etc.........who continued to technically hold their office at taxpayer expense (on several levels) while spending 100% of their time campaigning for President.
Yes. If she resigns, she gets to do whatever she wants.
So let me throw it back at you: Do you really that another year as Governor of Alaska adds anything to her resume?
Moreover, I have more respect for her than I do Obama, McCain, Bush, Clinton, etc.........who continued to technically hold their office at taxpayer expense (on several levels) while spending 100% of their time campaigning for President.
| Ontos | 2009-07-04 01:46:06 AM |
I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
Most of you act like children.
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 01:46:14 AM |
strothgar: Dr.Zom: Lenny_da_Hog: Dr.Zom: Some people in the Mudflats thread said they had relatives with meth problems and Palin's delivery during her resignation speech was similar to meth users.
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
That's just stupid trolling. There's a thread at Kos that implies it, too.
/hate when people who agree with me also embarrass me....
I've never spent any time around meth users so I have no idea how they act.
She did seem jacked up on something, probably adrenalin. Listen to her breath in while she's speaking. She's tight as a tick. She can barely inhale.
And her speech makes no kind of sense whatsoever. It's just buzzwords linked together with sports metaphors.
She is going for the gold, and will re-purpose herself at the start of this new period of play
BTW. Emotions can cause an adrenaline rush that is very similar to a stimulant (which is one of several reasons stimulants can be so addicting), I think we have all been in that situation where we have felt a sense of panic and made asses of ourselves. Hopefully it wasn't on CNN though....
Anyone with experience in this field want to comment?
That's just stupid trolling. There's a thread at Kos that implies it, too.
/hate when people who agree with me also embarrass me....
I've never spent any time around meth users so I have no idea how they act.
She did seem jacked up on something, probably adrenalin. Listen to her breath in while she's speaking. She's tight as a tick. She can barely inhale.
And her speech makes no kind of sense whatsoever. It's just buzzwords linked together with sports metaphors.
She is going for the gold, and will re-purpose herself at the start of this new period of play
BTW. Emotions can cause an adrenaline rush that is very similar to a stimulant (which is one of several reasons stimulants can be so addicting), I think we have all been in that situation where we have felt a sense of panic and made asses of ourselves. Hopefully it wasn't on CNN though....
| steamingpile | 2009-07-04 01:47:17 AM |
Who is the douchebag farker who frequents that idiots site? Hasnt he been wrong like 3 or 4 times before? Who really cares though, it seems if you were a smart liberal you would want this to be false since she will be somewhere in the conservative ticket for a presidential run, therefore making it easier for you to keep the whitehouse.
Still, that guys site sucks and his smugness comes across in his shiatty writing style, I bet he reeks of patchouli.
Still, that guys site sucks and his smugness comes across in his shiatty writing style, I bet he reeks of patchouli.
| 12349876 | 2009-07-04 01:47:28 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
We've been acting like that with Hillary Clinton for years and she's doing just fine.
We've been acting like that with Hillary Clinton for years and she's doing just fine.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:47:33 AM |
cchris_39: Sabyen91: You really deny that if she wanted a political career she should get through her term?
Yes. If she resigns, she gets to do whatever she wants.
So let me throw it back at you: Do you really that another year as Governor of Alaska adds anything to her resume?
Moreover, I have more respect for her than I do Obama, McCain, Bush, Clinton, etc.........who continued to technically hold their office at taxpayer expense (on several levels) while spending 100% of their time campaigning for President.
I think her quitting in the middle of her term makes her resume look like total shiat.
Yes. If she resigns, she gets to do whatever she wants.
So let me throw it back at you: Do you really that another year as Governor of Alaska adds anything to her resume?
Moreover, I have more respect for her than I do Obama, McCain, Bush, Clinton, etc.........who continued to technically hold their office at taxpayer expense (on several levels) while spending 100% of their time campaigning for President.
I think her quitting in the middle of her term makes her resume look like total shiat.
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 01:47:36 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
As a leader she should be able to rise above that and not let it affect her.
May I recommend searching leader, leadership and leadership qualities, on M-W.com, wikipedia and Google respectively?
Most of you act like children.
As a leader she should be able to rise above that and not let it affect her.
May I recommend searching leader, leadership and leadership qualities, on M-W.com, wikipedia and Google respectively?
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 01:47:50 AM |
Fjornir: I'm about as anti-Palin as you could fine but... "same windows, same wood, same products." kinda sounds hollow when you realize you're talking about a town with a population of less than six thousand. How many contractors are in town who can take on such a project? How many suppliers for them to order from?
I FINALLY SORTED OUT THE WEB SURROUNDING THE HOUSE BUILT BY THE PALINS:
It's more than just the same building supplies showing up in both their house and the Wasill sports complex.
The architect at the design firm that was awarded a $500k contract to design the complex is the son of one of Palin's mentors.
Palin then named that architect to the committee that then chose a contractor owned by a guy who contributed $4,000 to Palin's campaigns -- which was a lot of money for the level of politics she was at at the time. The other bidding contractors protested the bidding process.
One of the subcontractors, a company called Spenard (remember that name), was a sponsor of Todd Palin's snowmobile team and had hired Sarah to do a commercial for them a couple of years earlier. This is where the supplies come in, as Spenard also supposedly supplied the Palins with some of the materials for their new house.
Todd Palin claims he built their house with help from some "buddies," but he won't say who they were. And Sarah blocked an effort to require the filing of building permits in Wasilla, which ensured that Todd's "helpers" remained a secret.
Tangentially, around the same time that the above was happening, Palin was running for Lt. Governor. About 10% of her campaign funds came from an oil field service company called Veco.
Veco is at the heart of the Sen. Ted Stevens scandal. The company's top execs have been indicted for bribing Alaskan politicians. They allegedly had paid $250k for an extensive remodeling job on Ted Stevens' house in 2000. Spenard was also involved in the work on Stevens' house. (Sounding familiar?)
Shortly after the new Palin house was built, Sarah took over as head of Ted Stevens' PAC.
And here's where it comes together today: The indicted Veco execs are supposed to be cooperating with the Feds. June 30th was a deadline set for the prosecutors to report on the extent of their cooperation. Three days later Sarah Palin suddenly resigns from her office as governor, with so little warning that even local media in Alaska has trouble making it to her press conference in time, and her head spokesperson is in NYC, apparently unprepared and with no coherent cover story.
I FINALLY SORTED OUT THE WEB SURROUNDING THE HOUSE BUILT BY THE PALINS:
It's more than just the same building supplies showing up in both their house and the Wasill sports complex.
The architect at the design firm that was awarded a $500k contract to design the complex is the son of one of Palin's mentors.
Palin then named that architect to the committee that then chose a contractor owned by a guy who contributed $4,000 to Palin's campaigns -- which was a lot of money for the level of politics she was at at the time. The other bidding contractors protested the bidding process.
One of the subcontractors, a company called Spenard (remember that name), was a sponsor of Todd Palin's snowmobile team and had hired Sarah to do a commercial for them a couple of years earlier. This is where the supplies come in, as Spenard also supposedly supplied the Palins with some of the materials for their new house.
Todd Palin claims he built their house with help from some "buddies," but he won't say who they were. And Sarah blocked an effort to require the filing of building permits in Wasilla, which ensured that Todd's "helpers" remained a secret.
Tangentially, around the same time that the above was happening, Palin was running for Lt. Governor. About 10% of her campaign funds came from an oil field service company called Veco.
Veco is at the heart of the Sen. Ted Stevens scandal. The company's top execs have been indicted for bribing Alaskan politicians. They allegedly had paid $250k for an extensive remodeling job on Ted Stevens' house in 2000. Spenard was also involved in the work on Stevens' house. (Sounding familiar?)
Shortly after the new Palin house was built, Sarah took over as head of Ted Stevens' PAC.
And here's where it comes together today: The indicted Veco execs are supposed to be cooperating with the Feds. June 30th was a deadline set for the prosecutors to report on the extent of their cooperation. Three days later Sarah Palin suddenly resigns from her office as governor, with so little warning that even local media in Alaska has trouble making it to her press conference in time, and her head spokesperson is in NYC, apparently unprepared and with no coherent cover story.
| ju66l3r
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2009-07-04 01:48:05 AM |
I bet she slept with A-Rod the last time she was at Yankee Stadium.
| Tsunami Ditka | 2009-07-04 01:48:16 AM |
I wonder what Rush Limbaugh will have to say about this.
Oh, wait. I already know, and I already don't care anymore.
Oh, wait. I already know, and I already don't care anymore.
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-04 01:48:28 AM |
It should be interesting when this comes out. I'm looking forward to her taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY like she espouses.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:48:33 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
Then she needs to go the fark away.
Most of you act like children.
Then she needs to go the fark away.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:49:08 AM |
MrCab:
Slight tangent - am I the only one thinking that some McCain aide, in picking her as the VP candidate, has ended up ruining her life? In exchange for 15 minutes of fame, a bunch of scandals that, sadly, would probably have just gotten swept under the rug, are now going to make her get pwned into prison or huge fines. Her career in politics is pretty much over at this point (though I'm sure Fox News will find a slot for her between 11 and 2).
Ah well. The country is better off for it.
a.) The scandals wouldn't have gotten swept under the rug, regardless. Alaskans are truly getting sick of the corruption and have busted over a dozen of their own in the last year or two.
b.) As I said in the other thread, she is solely to blame. If someone came to me and said, "Hey, Lenny, I need a nuclear physicist to work on my power plant!" -- well, I might like the money and prestige of the title, but I know damned well I'm unqualified for the job, and leave my old job to take it.
That's the position she was in when she got tagged for VP. She knew damned well she was unqualified, but chased it anyway. Her own fault.
Slight tangent - am I the only one thinking that some McCain aide, in picking her as the VP candidate, has ended up ruining her life? In exchange for 15 minutes of fame, a bunch of scandals that, sadly, would probably have just gotten swept under the rug, are now going to make her get pwned into prison or huge fines. Her career in politics is pretty much over at this point (though I'm sure Fox News will find a slot for her between 11 and 2).
Ah well. The country is better off for it.
a.) The scandals wouldn't have gotten swept under the rug, regardless. Alaskans are truly getting sick of the corruption and have busted over a dozen of their own in the last year or two.
b.) As I said in the other thread, she is solely to blame. If someone came to me and said, "Hey, Lenny, I need a nuclear physicist to work on my power plant!" -- well, I might like the money and prestige of the title, but I know damned well I'm unqualified for the job, and leave my old job to take it.
That's the position she was in when she got tagged for VP. She knew damned well she was unqualified, but chased it anyway. Her own fault.
| rohar
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2009-07-04 01:49:37 AM |
cchris_39: Do you really that another year as Governor of Alaska adds anything to her resume?
As long as she doesn't accidentally the whole thing? Yes.
As long as she doesn't accidentally the whole thing? Yes.
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 01:49:41 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
/oblig
Most of you act like children.
/oblig
| Dr.Zom | 2009-07-04 01:50:23 AM |
Has Fox News called her a Democrat yet?
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-04 01:50:40 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
So that whole "Pitbull" and "Barracuda" thing was bullshiat?
So that whole "Pitbull" and "Barracuda" thing was bullshiat?
| hej | 2009-07-04 01:50:49 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: hej: ...so I'm curious if she actually cited a reason for resigning when she gave this press conference.
None credible.
But did she actually give any reason (credible or not)? I caught the part where she complained about Letterman, but she didn't seem to actually say she was resigning because she was being picked on. It seemed to me like it was just 10 minutes of babbling farewell.
None credible.
But did she actually give any reason (credible or not)? I caught the part where she complained about Letterman, but she didn't seem to actually say she was resigning because she was being picked on. It seemed to me like it was just 10 minutes of babbling farewell.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:51:04 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
I guess that's why she went on those tough-talk tours accusing people of terrorism, anti-Americanism, etc.
Because she likes to play nice.
Most of you act like children.
I guess that's why she went on those tough-talk tours accusing people of terrorism, anti-Americanism, etc.
Because she likes to play nice.
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-04 01:51:28 AM |
| cchris_39 | 2009-07-04 01:51:34 AM |
Antonio_Talibanderas: Not when one of her biggest problems as a national candidate was that she was still a little green and needed more experience governing. I recall Pat Buchanan lecturing Chris Matthews on this - something like: "she needs to go back to Alaska, continue to govern with tremendous popularity and support and come back in 2012 with a record of successful conservative leadership."
Ya know, 20 years ago I would have agreed with you - well ok 2 years ago. But things have changed. Obama was just as green, probably even worse. But despite what the press says, ideology IS important. Obama is an ideologue, so is Palin, so was Reagan. That's why the Dem's fear her, they know she is the mirror to Obama.
Ya know, 20 years ago I would have agreed with you - well ok 2 years ago. But things have changed. Obama was just as green, probably even worse. But despite what the press says, ideology IS important. Obama is an ideologue, so is Palin, so was Reagan. That's why the Dem's fear her, they know she is the mirror to Obama.
| Harry_Seldon | 2009-07-04 01:51:49 AM |
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: OgreMagi: When someone references a blog that mentions something bad about Obama and friends, it's quickly rejected since it's "just a blog".
If Obama and friends suddenly resign for NO APPARENT REASON those blogs may gain some credibility.
Or at least some interest.
I finally got curious to who Nina Hartley is. She is a 50 year old former porn star from 80's. Odd Fark handle.
If Obama and friends suddenly resign for NO APPARENT REASON those blogs may gain some credibility.
Or at least some interest.
I finally got curious to who Nina Hartley is. She is a 50 year old former porn star from 80's. Odd Fark handle.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:52:01 AM |
hej: Lenny_da_Hog: hej: ...so I'm curious if she actually cited a reason for resigning when she gave this press conference.
None credible.
But did she actually give any reason (credible or not)? I caught the part where she complained about Letterman, but she didn't seem to actually say she was resigning because she was being picked on. It seemed to me like it was just 10 minutes of babbling farewell.
No, no reason at all.
None credible.
But did she actually give any reason (credible or not)? I caught the part where she complained about Letterman, but she didn't seem to actually say she was resigning because she was being picked on. It seemed to me like it was just 10 minutes of babbling farewell.
No, no reason at all.
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:52:43 AM |
Ed Finnerty: Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
So that whole "Pitbull" and "Barracuda" thing was bullshiat?
Obviously high school basketball isn't the same thing as being mayor of a small town, which isn't the same thing as being governor of a state, which isn't the same thing as being in the national spotlight.
So that whole "Pitbull" and "Barracuda" thing was bullshiat?
Obviously high school basketball isn't the same thing as being mayor of a small town, which isn't the same thing as being governor of a state, which isn't the same thing as being in the national spotlight.
| Dr.Zom | 2009-07-04 01:52:59 AM |
| Tsunami Ditka | 2009-07-04 01:53:12 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
Yeah. She left the governorship because David Letterman made a misguided joke, and because of the image macros posted on Fark.
On the other hand, though, you could actually be right - although that doesn't make her look any better. It's obvious that she's rather rash and impulsive, and that she sports about the thinnest skin in politics. Hell, she wasted a ton of effort going after some two-bit blogger. She went after the father of her only grandchild in the media. It's possible she was so hurt by the "liberal wharrgarbl" that something in her made her say (with no warning), "Screw you guys, I'm goin' home."
Most of you act like children.
Yeah. She left the governorship because David Letterman made a misguided joke, and because of the image macros posted on Fark.
On the other hand, though, you could actually be right - although that doesn't make her look any better. It's obvious that she's rather rash and impulsive, and that she sports about the thinnest skin in politics. Hell, she wasted a ton of effort going after some two-bit blogger. She went after the father of her only grandchild in the media. It's possible she was so hurt by the "liberal wharrgarbl" that something in her made her say (with no warning), "Screw you guys, I'm goin' home."
| rohar
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2009-07-04 01:53:53 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
Dude, have you seen the metric tons of shiat we throw at our president? If she can't handle this, what right does she have getting in front of that freight train?
And yes, yes we do act like children. An entire nation of the most powerful children on the planet. If she can't handle Alaska, she certainly cannot handle POTUS.
Most of you act like children.
Dude, have you seen the metric tons of shiat we throw at our president? If she can't handle this, what right does she have getting in front of that freight train?
And yes, yes we do act like children. An entire nation of the most powerful children on the planet. If she can't handle Alaska, she certainly cannot handle POTUS.
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 01:53:55 AM |
I was never a Palin supporter necessarily; just saw the Katie Couric interview for the hit piece it was always intended to be, and all of the interjection of Palin's family and personal attacking as wrong.
But I'm seeing Palin-supporting pundits on TV saying stuff like, "Well, don't ever count her out ..." "... she loves proving people wrong..." And, as has been said here, "Now she can go down to the Lower 48, get involved in more policy matters in a more high-profile way, and help her national aspirations."
Sorry. That's all utter crap.
It would be the easiest, most damning attack ad ever: "She quit on Alaskans; why should YOU trust her?"
And the game ends right there. There's no overcoming it; she'll carry it forever.
You'd almost think there'd be a peace about you if you were leaving on your own terms, for reasons you believed in. As has been pointed out, she was unprepared, rambling, and almost manic.
This is beyond weird.
But I'm seeing Palin-supporting pundits on TV saying stuff like, "Well, don't ever count her out ..." "... she loves proving people wrong..." And, as has been said here, "Now she can go down to the Lower 48, get involved in more policy matters in a more high-profile way, and help her national aspirations."
Sorry. That's all utter crap.
It would be the easiest, most damning attack ad ever: "She quit on Alaskans; why should YOU trust her?"
And the game ends right there. There's no overcoming it; she'll carry it forever.
You'd almost think there'd be a peace about you if you were leaving on your own terms, for reasons you believed in. As has been pointed out, she was unprepared, rambling, and almost manic.
This is beyond weird.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:54:01 AM |
hej: Lenny_da_Hog: hej: ...so I'm curious if she actually cited a reason for resigning when she gave this press conference.
None credible.
But did she actually give any reason (credible or not)? I caught the part where she complained about Letterman, but she didn't seem to actually say she was resigning because she was being picked on. It seemed to me like it was just 10 minutes of babbling farewell.
She didn't give a single reason, per se. She rambled on about wanting to help America, not wanting to be a lame duck since she's not running for another term as governor... but there was no solid reason provided.
None credible.
But did she actually give any reason (credible or not)? I caught the part where she complained about Letterman, but she didn't seem to actually say she was resigning because she was being picked on. It seemed to me like it was just 10 minutes of babbling farewell.
She didn't give a single reason, per se. She rambled on about wanting to help America, not wanting to be a lame duck since she's not running for another term as governor... but there was no solid reason provided.
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:54:07 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
Most of you act like children.
| Ed Grubermann
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2009-07-04 01:54:34 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
Most of you act like children.
| Born to Die | 2009-07-04 01:54:34 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
Most of you act like children.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:55:35 AM |
cchris_39: Antonio_Talibanderas: Not when one of her biggest problems as a national candidate was that she was still a little green and needed more experience governing. I recall Pat Buchanan lecturing Chris Matthews on this - something like: "she needs to go back to Alaska, continue to govern with tremendous popularity and support and come back in 2012 with a record of successful conservative leadership."
Ya know, 20 years ago I would have agreed with you - well ok 2 years ago. But things have changed. Obama was just as green, probably even worse. But despite what the press says, ideology IS important. Obama is an ideologue, so is Palin, so was Reagan. That's why the Dem's fear her, they know she is the mirror to Obama.
Oh, bullshiat. Palin /=Obama. You can deny it all you want but Palin is not a popular person in the US (except among the most ridiculous Republicans).
Ya know, 20 years ago I would have agreed with you - well ok 2 years ago. But things have changed. Obama was just as green, probably even worse. But despite what the press says, ideology IS important. Obama is an ideologue, so is Palin, so was Reagan. That's why the Dem's fear her, they know she is the mirror to Obama.
Oh, bullshiat. Palin /=Obama. You can deny it all you want but Palin is not a popular person in the US (except among the most ridiculous Republicans).
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 01:56:10 AM |
Tsunami Ditka: Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
Yeah. She left the governorship because David Letterman made a misguided joke, and because of the image macros posted on Fark.
On the other hand, though, you could actually be right - although that doesn't make her look any better. It's obvious that she's rather rash and impulsive, and that she sports about the thinnest skin in politics. Hell, she wasted a ton of effort going after some two-bit blogger. She went after the father of her only grandchild in the media. It's possible she was so hurt by the "liberalwharrgarbl Moonbattery" that something in her made her say (with no warning), "Screw you guys, I'm goin' home."
We do moonbattery; conservatives do wharrgarbl.
Get it right next time!
Most of you act like children.
Yeah. She left the governorship because David Letterman made a misguided joke, and because of the image macros posted on Fark.
On the other hand, though, you could actually be right - although that doesn't make her look any better. It's obvious that she's rather rash and impulsive, and that she sports about the thinnest skin in politics. Hell, she wasted a ton of effort going after some two-bit blogger. She went after the father of her only grandchild in the media. It's possible she was so hurt by the "liberal
We do moonbattery; conservatives do wharrgarbl.
Get it right next time!
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 01:56:45 AM |
Ed Finnerty: Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
So that whole "Pitbull" and "Barracuda" thing was bullshiat?
WIN!
So that whole "Pitbull" and "Barracuda" thing was bullshiat?
WIN!
| MrCab
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2009-07-04 01:56:53 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: That's the position she was in when she got tagged for VP. She knew damned well she was unqualified, but chased it anyway. Her own fault.
Hmm, good point. An aid picked her, but it's true she could have just said no. Granted I don't know how many people say "no" to Vice President, who are unknowns as it is (read - I can see Hilary doing it), and survive as politicians.
Ah well. As the boobies said, I'm gonna go get some popcorn.
Hmm, good point. An aid picked her, but it's true she could have just said no. Granted I don't know how many people say "no" to Vice President, who are unknowns as it is (read - I can see Hilary doing it), and survive as politicians.
Ah well. As the boobies said, I'm gonna go get some popcorn.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:56:56 AM |
By the way, Dems don't fear Palin. Dems want her to run...BIG TIME.
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 01:57:39 AM |
Sabyen91: By the way, Dems don't fear Palin. Dems want her to run...BIG TIME.
Dems, Greens, Progressives, and all the liberals want her to run.
Dems, Greens, Progressives, and all the liberals want her to run.
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:58:00 AM |
Sabyen91: Oh, bullshiat. Palin /=Obama. You can deny it all you want but Palin is not a popular person in the US (except among the most ridiculous Republicans).
Her approval ratings are roughly equal to her disapproval ratings. Not as good as Obama's, but not as bad some.
Her approval ratings are roughly equal to her disapproval ratings. Not as good as Obama's, but not as bad some.
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 01:58:08 AM |
| Ed Grubermann
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2009-07-04 01:58:40 AM |
Harry_Seldon: I finally got curious to who Nina Hartley is. She is a 50 year old former porn star from 80's. Odd Fark handle.
Back in the day she had the best ass in porn.
Back in the day she had the best ass in porn.
| rohar
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2009-07-04 01:59:20 AM |
Harry_Seldon:
And here's where it comes together today: The indicted Veco execs are supposed to be cooperating with the Feds. June 30th was a deadline set for the prosecutors to report on the extent of their cooperation. Three days later Sarah Palin suddenly resigns from her office as governor, with so little warning that even local media in Alaska has trouble making it to her press conference in time, and her head spokesperson is in NYC, apparently unprepared and with no coherent cover story.
The lesson here for all you perspective politicians. No matter how many screwed up things you've done, always (AND I MEAN ALWAYS) tell your handlers. They work for you so they won't sell you out knowing a POTUS spot is in the offing. If you don't tell, you're butt will be on national TV and you won't have a decent explanation.
And here's where it comes together today: The indicted Veco execs are supposed to be cooperating with the Feds. June 30th was a deadline set for the prosecutors to report on the extent of their cooperation. Three days later Sarah Palin suddenly resigns from her office as governor, with so little warning that even local media in Alaska has trouble making it to her press conference in time, and her head spokesperson is in NYC, apparently unprepared and with no coherent cover story.
The lesson here for all you perspective politicians. No matter how many screwed up things you've done, always (AND I MEAN ALWAYS) tell your handlers. They work for you so they won't sell you out knowing a POTUS spot is in the offing. If you don't tell, you're butt will be on national TV and you won't have a decent explanation.
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 01:59:24 AM |
Suddenly, the prospect of President Palin isn't so frightening. She would quit after six months so that she could get away from the gotcha questions of the drive-by media and instead focus on the Real Americans in Real America you betcha.
OK, amnesty time. Any remaining Palin supporters who want to admit her failure can do so for the next 24 hours without fear of reprisal.
OK, amnesty time. Any remaining Palin supporters who want to admit her failure can do so for the next 24 hours without fear of reprisal.
| Tsunami Ditka | 2009-07-04 01:59:32 AM |
detfrost1: We do moonbattery; conservatives do wharrgarbl.
Get it right next time!
Duly noted. Thanks for the protip.
Get it right next time!
Duly noted. Thanks for the protip.
| cardex | 2009-07-04 01:59:38 AM |
cchris_39: Ya know, 20 years ago I would have agreed with you - well ok 2 years ago. But things have changed. Obama was just as green, probably even worse. But despite what the press says, ideology IS important. Obama is an ideologue, so is Palin, so was Reagan. That's why the Dem's fear her, they know she is the mirror to Obama.
sorry to pop your bubble but nobody fears her, there is no reason to ever fear someone that stupid the only person that she is able to hurt is herself.
sorry to pop your bubble but nobody fears her, there is no reason to ever fear someone that stupid the only person that she is able to hurt is herself.
| brainiac-dumdum
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2009-07-04 01:59:50 AM |
politicians do this all the time, and most don't resign after it's been brought to light.
maybe it's juicer than we suspect.
maybe it's juicer than we suspect.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 01:59:55 AM |
elchip: Sabyen91: Oh, bullshiat. Palin /=Obama. You can deny it all you want but Palin is not a popular person in the US (except among the most ridiculous Republicans).
Her approval ratings are roughly equal to her disapproval ratings. Not as good as Obama's, but not as bad some.
Well, she shouldn't give up!!
Her approval ratings are roughly equal to her disapproval ratings. Not as good as Obama's, but not as bad some.
Well, she shouldn't give up!!
| QU!RK1019 | 2009-07-04 01:59:57 AM |
Sabyen91: By the way, Dems don't fear Palin. Dems want her to run...BIG TIME.
Even more so after today.
Even more so after today.
| Nina_Hartley's_Ass | 2009-07-04 01:59:59 AM |
Harry_Seldon: I finally got curious to who Nina Hartley is. She is a 50 year old former porn star from 80's. Odd Fark handle.
FTFY.
FTFY.
| detfrost1
|
2009-07-04 02:00:51 AM |
FishingWithFredo: I was never a Palin supporter necessarily; just saw the Katie Couric interview for the hit piece it was always intended to be, and all of the interjection of Palin's family and personal attacking as wrong.
But I'm seeing Palin-supporting pundits on TV saying stuff like, "Well, don't ever count her out ..." "... she loves proving people wrong..." And, as has been said here, "Now she can go down to the Lower 48, get involved in more policy matters in a more high-profile way, and help her national aspirations."
Sorry. That's all utter crap.
It would be the easiest, most damning attack ad ever: "She quit on Alaskans; why should YOU trust her?"
And the game ends right there. There's no overcoming it; she'll carry it forever.
You'd almost think there'd be a peace about you if you were leaving on your own terms, for reasons you believed in. As has been pointed out, she was unprepared, rambling, and almost manic.
This is beyond weird.
Asking someone what farking magazines they read, and they can't even farking read one is a hit job!?
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiight.
and here play with this while you're there.
But I'm seeing Palin-supporting pundits on TV saying stuff like, "Well, don't ever count her out ..." "... she loves proving people wrong..." And, as has been said here, "Now she can go down to the Lower 48, get involved in more policy matters in a more high-profile way, and help her national aspirations."
Sorry. That's all utter crap.
It would be the easiest, most damning attack ad ever: "She quit on Alaskans; why should YOU trust her?"
And the game ends right there. There's no overcoming it; she'll carry it forever.
You'd almost think there'd be a peace about you if you were leaving on your own terms, for reasons you believed in. As has been pointed out, she was unprepared, rambling, and almost manic.
This is beyond weird.
Asking someone what farking magazines they read, and they can't even farking read one is a hit job!?
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiight.
and here play with this while you're there.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 02:01:05 AM |
QU!RK1019: Sabyen91: By the way, Dems don't fear Palin. Dems want her to run...BIG TIME.
Even more so after today.
Today is a dark day. No Palin? That hurts me.
Even more so after today.
Today is a dark day. No Palin? That hurts me.
| rohar
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2009-07-04 02:01:28 AM |
elchip: Sabyen91: Oh, bullshiat. Palin /=Obama. You can deny it all you want but Palin is not a popular person in the US (except among the most ridiculous Republicans).
Her approval ratings are roughly equal to her disapproval ratings. Not as good as Obama's, but not as bad some.
We should talk about this again next week. I'm guessing there's going to be an adjustment.
/Yes, hers aren't as bad as some
//mine for instance
Her approval ratings are roughly equal to her disapproval ratings. Not as good as Obama's, but not as bad some.
We should talk about this again next week. I'm guessing there's going to be an adjustment.
/Yes, hers aren't as bad as some
//mine for instance
| phoenixdan
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2009-07-04 02:01:34 AM |
| bobbette
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2009-07-04 02:01:55 AM |
Her embezzlement house is on Lake Lucille? What is it filled with, gin?
| whizbang
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2009-07-04 02:01:55 AM |
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 02:01:58 AM |
Tsunami Ditka: detfrost1: We do moonbattery; conservatives do wharrgarbl.
Get it right next time!
Duly noted. Thanks for the protip.
I'm here to help.
:D
Get it right next time!
Duly noted. Thanks for the protip.
I'm here to help.
:D
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 02:02:01 AM |
I just talked to my mom about this. Her reaction was, "They were just going to keep on digging and digging until they found something on her."
Ok, mom, who are "They?" and Mom, they didn't really have to try THAT hard.
/she's mad at me now.
Ok, mom, who are "They?" and Mom, they didn't really have to try THAT hard.
/she's mad at me now.
| Sabyen91
|
2009-07-04 02:02:18 AM |
detfrost1: FishingWithFredo: I was never a Palin supporter necessarily; just saw the Katie Couric interview for the hit piece it was always intended to be, and all of the interjection of Palin's family and personal attacking as wrong.
But I'm seeing Palin-supporting pundits on TV saying stuff like, "Well, don't ever count her out ..." "... she loves proving people wrong..." And, as has been said here, "Now she can go down to the Lower 48, get involved in more policy matters in a more high-profile way, and help her national aspirations."
Sorry. That's all utter crap.
It would be the easiest, most damning attack ad ever: "She quit on Alaskans; why should YOU trust her?"
And the game ends right there. There's no overcoming it; she'll carry it forever.
You'd almost think there'd be a peace about you if you were leaving on your own terms, for reasons you believed in. As has been pointed out, she was unprepared, rambling, and almost manic.
This is beyond weird.
Asking someone what farking magazines they read, and they can't even farking read one is a hit job!?
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiight.
and here play with this while you're there.
I hear that asking what your favorite color is is a hardball question.
But I'm seeing Palin-supporting pundits on TV saying stuff like, "Well, don't ever count her out ..." "... she loves proving people wrong..." And, as has been said here, "Now she can go down to the Lower 48, get involved in more policy matters in a more high-profile way, and help her national aspirations."
Sorry. That's all utter crap.
It would be the easiest, most damning attack ad ever: "She quit on Alaskans; why should YOU trust her?"
And the game ends right there. There's no overcoming it; she'll carry it forever.
You'd almost think there'd be a peace about you if you were leaving on your own terms, for reasons you believed in. As has been pointed out, she was unprepared, rambling, and almost manic.
This is beyond weird.
Asking someone what farking magazines they read, and they can't even farking read one is a hit job!?
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiight.
and here play with this while you're there.
I hear that asking what your favorite color is is a hardball question.
| elchip
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2009-07-04 02:02:20 AM |
rohar: We should talk about this again next week. I'm guessing there's going to be an adjustment.
I had better unload my Sarah Palin-backed securities, stat.
I had better unload my Sarah Palin-backed securities, stat.
| ragekage
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2009-07-04 02:02:28 AM |
FishingWithFredo: I was never a Palin supporter necessarily; just saw the Katie Couric interview for the hit piece it was always intended to be...
In what respect, Charlie?
In what respect, Charlie?
| QU!RK1019 | 2009-07-04 02:02:57 AM |
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Harry_Seldon: I finally got curious to who Nina Hartley is. She is a 50 year old former porn star from 80's. Odd Fark handle.
FTFY.
Oh wow, yeah. She's still pretty hot.
/The googles actually did something!
FTFY.
Oh wow, yeah. She's still pretty hot.
/The googles actually did something!
| Ed Grubermann
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2009-07-04 02:03:20 AM |
FishingWithFredo: I was never a Palin supporter necessarily; just saw the Katie Couric interview for the hit piece it was always intended to be...
Interrogation Cop: In English, please?
Fenster: Excuse me?
Interrogation Cop: In English.
Interrogation Cop: In English, please?
Fenster: Excuse me?
Interrogation Cop: In English.
| elchip
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2009-07-04 02:03:29 AM |
Sabyen91: I hear that asking what your favorite color is is a hardball question.
Blue... no, yelllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
Blue... no, yelllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow
| Wombatzu | 2009-07-04 02:03:39 AM |
Ontos: I don't know what the true reasons are. Perhaps she's simply tired of people -such as many of you- behaving like insufferable assholes for sport.
Most of you act like children.
hah. butthurt proto-fascists. i love it!
Most of you act like children.
hah. butthurt proto-fascists. i love it!
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 02:04:21 AM |
My only fear of Sarah Palin is the same fear I have of any profoundly stupid person: fear that they will chew on an extension cord, or walk in front of a train, or choke on a pretzel.
| locopolitico | 2009-07-04 02:06:02 AM |
| brainiac-dumdum
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2009-07-04 02:06:19 AM |
lstywnch: I just talked to my mom about this. Her reaction was, "They were just going to keep on digging and digging until they found something on her."
Ok, mom, who are "They?" and Mom, they didn't really have to try THAT hard.
/she's mad at me now.
Now she knows how Clinton felt.
Ok, mom, who are "They?" and Mom, they didn't really have to try THAT hard.
/she's mad at me now.
Now she knows how Clinton felt.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 02:06:19 AM |
rohar: Harry_Seldon:
And here's where it comes together today: The indicted Veco execs are supposed to be cooperating with the Feds. June 30th was a deadline set for the prosecutors to report on the extent of their cooperation. Three days later Sarah Palin suddenly resigns from her office as governor, with so little warning that even local media in Alaska has trouble making it to her press conference in time, and her head spokesperson is in NYC, apparently unprepared and with no coherent cover story.
Dunno where this came from, but Sarah is completely uninvolved in the Veco Scandal. It all happened before she ran for state office, and she doesn't associate with the legislators who were already in office.
She simply didn't have enough power to be important to Veco.
And here's where it comes together today: The indicted Veco execs are supposed to be cooperating with the Feds. June 30th was a deadline set for the prosecutors to report on the extent of their cooperation. Three days later Sarah Palin suddenly resigns from her office as governor, with so little warning that even local media in Alaska has trouble making it to her press conference in time, and her head spokesperson is in NYC, apparently unprepared and with no coherent cover story.
Dunno where this came from, but Sarah is completely uninvolved in the Veco Scandal. It all happened before she ran for state office, and she doesn't associate with the legislators who were already in office.
She simply didn't have enough power to be important to Veco.
| propasaurus
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2009-07-04 02:07:39 AM |
Wonder what they have to say about this over at TeamSarah
Link (new window)
Link (new window)
| the opposite of charity is justice | 2009-07-04 02:08:43 AM |
Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
Just watched her resignation speech and that thing took rambling incoherence to an entirely new level.
Watching it a 2nd time, why is she resigning again? Is she actually saying that she'd just waste money if she stayed in office taking fact-finding missions around the globe? That she could do more political good outside of politics? WHAT?
The "truthfully and honestly" comment stands out, the only people who say such stuff are lying bastards in the middle of a lie. This speech sounds like she expected whatever the scandal is that prompted it to have come out before the speech.
There is no political upside for her leaving the office early but plenty of downside. This 100% completely kills her Prez aspirations, we do not vote for quitters.
Friday evening announcements are bad enough but holiday announcements = "we want this shiat buried as deeply as humanly possible".
I have no idea what the underlying scandal could be but it has to be huge. I'm wondering if its even a political scandal in that I'd think she'd be better able to weather such while in the office than outside as a regular citizen. Sex scandal?
Just watched her resignation speech and that thing took rambling incoherence to an entirely new level.
Watching it a 2nd time, why is she resigning again? Is she actually saying that she'd just waste money if she stayed in office taking fact-finding missions around the globe? That she could do more political good outside of politics? WHAT?
The "truthfully and honestly" comment stands out, the only people who say such stuff are lying bastards in the middle of a lie. This speech sounds like she expected whatever the scandal is that prompted it to have come out before the speech.
There is no political upside for her leaving the office early but plenty of downside. This 100% completely kills her Prez aspirations, we do not vote for quitters.
Friday evening announcements are bad enough but holiday announcements = "we want this shiat buried as deeply as humanly possible".
I have no idea what the underlying scandal could be but it has to be huge. I'm wondering if its even a political scandal in that I'd think she'd be better able to weather such while in the office than outside as a regular citizen. Sex scandal?
| Kimball_Kinnison | 2009-07-04 02:10:57 AM |
Sure glad she wasn't VP. Imagine that the GOP could get any wacko they wanted to be the VP without having to worry about voters meddling into their worlds domination plans.
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 02:11:44 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: Dunno where this came from, but Sarah is completely uninvolved in the Veco Scandal. It all happened before she ran for state office, and she doesn't associate with the legislators who were already in office.
She simply didn't have enough power to be important to Veco.
According to the Veco wikipedia page:
"Sarah Palin is another Alaskan politician that received campaign support from VECO. The International Herald Tribune reported on September 3, 2008, "As Palin campaigned unsuccessfully in 2002 to become lieutenant governor, she received contributions from executives at VECO Corp., a powerful Alaska oil field services company." The questionable donations totaled $4,500, over 10% of all her funding that year."
And shortly after the Palin home is built, Palin takes over as the head of Ted Stevens' PAC.
UNINVOLVED???
She simply didn't have enough power to be important to Veco.
According to the Veco wikipedia page:
"Sarah Palin is another Alaskan politician that received campaign support from VECO. The International Herald Tribune reported on September 3, 2008, "As Palin campaigned unsuccessfully in 2002 to become lieutenant governor, she received contributions from executives at VECO Corp., a powerful Alaska oil field services company." The questionable donations totaled $4,500, over 10% of all her funding that year."
And shortly after the Palin home is built, Palin takes over as the head of Ted Stevens' PAC.
UNINVOLVED???
| BuckTurgidson | 2009-07-04 02:11:49 AM |
Sounds like somebody's found the REAL Trig Palin birth certificate.
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 02:13:50 AM |
| brainiac-dumdum
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2009-07-04 02:14:06 AM |
BuckTurgidson: Sounds like somebody's found the REAL Trig Palin birth certificate.
is he's Kenyan too?
is he's Kenyan too?
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 02:14:19 AM |
BuckTurgidson: Sounds like somebody's found the REAL Trig Palin birth certificate.
I heard he was actually born down under.
I heard he was actually born down under.
| Fjornir
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2009-07-04 02:14:41 AM |
Sabyen91: Dude. She just quit her gravy job for no reason. I have a hard time believing you are as "anti-Palin" as they come if you don't think something is coming down the pike.
Sorry. I'm just as "anti-Palin" as rational people come. If there's more evidence than what's presented in this blogpost then I'll certainly consider it. I'm also not at all dismissive of the idea that some scandal is going to erupt any moment...
That said, the blogpost is far from compelling evidence in my estimation.
Sorry. I'm just as "anti-Palin" as rational people come. If there's more evidence than what's presented in this blogpost then I'll certainly consider it. I'm also not at all dismissive of the idea that some scandal is going to erupt any moment...
That said, the blogpost is far from compelling evidence in my estimation.
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 02:14:52 AM |
FishingWithFredo: I was never a Palin supporter necessarily; just saw the Katie Couric interview for the hit piece it was always intended to be
Of all the pathetic Palin defenses, this is the dumbest.
SHE ... COULDN'T... ANSWER... BASIC.. COMMON SENSE... QUESTIONS.
And then she whined "gotcha" for the rest of campaign!
Repeated, slowly, for the republicans in the audience...
SHE ... COULDN'T... ANSWER... BASIC.. COMMON SENSE... QUESTIONS.
(And that was the LEAST of her stupidities.)
Though I do like how some repubs are suddenly, "Hey, I wasn't ever actually for her, I just thought blah blah blah." Sort of like how they flip-flopped when Dubya's failure was too big for even partisan hacks to ignore.
Nice backpeddlin', losers.
Of all the pathetic Palin defenses, this is the dumbest.
SHE ... COULDN'T... ANSWER... BASIC.. COMMON SENSE... QUESTIONS.
And then she whined "gotcha" for the rest of campaign!
Repeated, slowly, for the republicans in the audience...
SHE ... COULDN'T... ANSWER... BASIC.. COMMON SENSE... QUESTIONS.
(And that was the LEAST of her stupidities.)
Though I do like how some repubs are suddenly, "Hey, I wasn't ever actually for her, I just thought blah blah blah." Sort of like how they flip-flopped when Dubya's failure was too big for even partisan hacks to ignore.
Nice backpeddlin', losers.
| brainiac-dumdum
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2009-07-04 02:15:03 AM |
Mentat: BuckTurgidson: Sounds like somebody's found the REAL Trig Palin birth certificate.
OMFG HE'S KENYAN!
A pox on you!!!!
OMFG HE'S KENYAN!
A pox on you!!!!
| fosborb | 2009-07-04 02:15:56 AM |
cchris_39: That's why the Dem's fear her, they know she is the mirror to Obama.
Oh absolutely. Just like a mirror.
Obama is left handed, Palin is right handed. Obama is male, Palin is female. Obama is black, Palin is white. Obama is a centrist Democrat, Palin is a conservative Republican. Obama ran for President, Palin was picked for Vice President. Obama has a trim, proper and elite family, Palin's family would fit in well at our 4th of July family picnic tomorrow. Obama had a tightly controlled message, Palin was reactionary. Biden's foreign policy experience helped Obama, McCain's domestic experience hurt Palin.
Obama won. Palin lost.
And Obama hasn't yet cut and run from his job.
Oh absolutely. Just like a mirror.
Obama is left handed, Palin is right handed. Obama is male, Palin is female. Obama is black, Palin is white. Obama is a centrist Democrat, Palin is a conservative Republican. Obama ran for President, Palin was picked for Vice President. Obama has a trim, proper and elite family, Palin's family would fit in well at our 4th of July family picnic tomorrow. Obama had a tightly controlled message, Palin was reactionary. Biden's foreign policy experience helped Obama, McCain's domestic experience hurt Palin.
Obama won. Palin lost.
And Obama hasn't yet cut and run from his job.
| Sabyen91
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2009-07-04 02:18:12 AM |
Fjornir: Sabyen91: Dude. She just quit her gravy job for no reason. I have a hard time believing you are as "anti-Palin" as they come if you don't think something is coming down the pike.
Sorry. I'm just as "anti-Palin" as rational people come. If there's more evidence than what's presented in this blogpost then I'll certainly consider it. I'm also not at all dismissive of the idea that some scandal is going to erupt any moment...
That said, the blogpost is far from compelling evidence in my estimation.
Evidence? There isn't much right now? What was your first thought when you first found out she was quitting?
Sorry. I'm just as "anti-Palin" as rational people come. If there's more evidence than what's presented in this blogpost then I'll certainly consider it. I'm also not at all dismissive of the idea that some scandal is going to erupt any moment...
That said, the blogpost is far from compelling evidence in my estimation.
Evidence? There isn't much right now? What was your first thought when you first found out she was quitting?
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 02:18:16 AM |
detfrost1: Asking someone what farking magazines they read, and they can't even farking read one is a hit job!?
Palin had figured out that Couric wasn't there to do an impartial interview, and was there to play "Gotcha!" on behalf of the political party she works for.
Palin wasn't experienced enough, however, to just get up and walk out of the interview; instead she shut down, and it came off looking bad.
There was also selective editing of the interview to make her look more extreme and less informed.
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
What the fark is the Bush Doctrine? Charles Krauthammer said it changed four times, and Charlie Gibson's reference wasn't the most up-to-date one. Krauthammer's only the one who invented the term and first discussed the Bush Doctrine, and is only about 1,052 times smarter than you or me.
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i i iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiight.
Right. You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
Palin had figured out that Couric wasn't there to do an impartial interview, and was there to play "Gotcha!" on behalf of the political party she works for.
Palin wasn't experienced enough, however, to just get up and walk out of the interview; instead she shut down, and it came off looking bad.
There was also selective editing of the interview to make her look more extreme and less informed.
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
What the fark is the Bush Doctrine? Charles Krauthammer said it changed four times, and Charlie Gibson's reference wasn't the most up-to-date one. Krauthammer's only the one who invented the term and first discussed the Bush Doctrine, and is only about 1,052 times smarter than you or me.
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii i i iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiight.
Right. You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:18:19 AM |
Someone mentioned upthread (I think jokingly) that Fox News would still hire her. Maybe just maybe she WAS offered a lucrative job offer and she didn't want to wait for her term to end to take it. Still makes her a biatch for quitting her responsibilites to Alaska.
| Black Lagoon | 2009-07-04 02:19:02 AM |
Harry_Seldon: I finally got curious to who Nina Hartley is. She is a 50 year old former porn star from 80's. Odd Fark handle.
The best ass in porn ever.
The best ass in porn ever.
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-04 02:19:02 AM |
VINCE FOOOOOOOOSTER!!!11!!1ACORN!!1!!HUSSEIN!!!1!!!111MUSLIN!!1!ARRUGALA!!!1!FIST-JAB! !1!!!TELEPROMTORZ!!11!aaaaaaAAAAAaaAAAAAAAA
| brainiac-dumdum
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2009-07-04 02:19:03 AM |
Anderson Cooper's bit w/ Palin's adviser or whatever she is, is hilarious.
"I don't know anything about basketball, all I know is politics"
"I don't know anything about basketball, all I know is politics"
| SeismicJizzer | 2009-07-04 02:19:27 AM |
fosborb: Oh absolutely. Just like a mirror.
Obama is left handed, Palin is right handed. Obama is male, Palin is female. Obama is black, Palin is white. Obama is a centrist Democrat, Palin is a conservative Republican. Obama ran for President, Palin was picked for Vice President. Obama has a trim, proper and elite family, Palin's family would fit in well at our 4th of July family picnic tomorrow. Obama had a tightly controlled message, Palin was reactionary. Biden's foreign policy experience helped Obama, McCain's domestic experience hurt Palin.
Obama won. Palin lost.
And Obama hasn't yet cut and run from his job.
win!
I just hope this hillbilly doesn't completely leave politics, I enjoy watching a meltdown.
Obama is left handed, Palin is right handed. Obama is male, Palin is female. Obama is black, Palin is white. Obama is a centrist Democrat, Palin is a conservative Republican. Obama ran for President, Palin was picked for Vice President. Obama has a trim, proper and elite family, Palin's family would fit in well at our 4th of July family picnic tomorrow. Obama had a tightly controlled message, Palin was reactionary. Biden's foreign policy experience helped Obama, McCain's domestic experience hurt Palin.
Obama won. Palin lost.
And Obama hasn't yet cut and run from his job.
win!
I just hope this hillbilly doesn't completely leave politics, I enjoy watching a meltdown.
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 02:19:31 AM |
brainiac-dumdum: Mentat: BuckTurgidson: Sounds like somebody's found the REAL Trig Palin birth certificate.
OMFG HE'S KENYAN!
A pox on you!!!!
When you can steal the simulpost from my keyboard Grasshopper, then your fark-fu will be as strong as mine.
OMFG HE'S KENYAN!
A pox on you!!!!
When you can steal the simulpost from my keyboard Grasshopper, then your fark-fu will be as strong as mine.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 02:20:05 AM |
shower_in_my_socks:
"Sarah Palin is another Alaskan politician that received campaign support from VECO.
According to Lenny's memory from doing very hard work researching Veco's donations during the course of the investigation (yes, those were my close friends who took everyone down)....
Veco contributed to nearly every single Alaskan GOP candidate, maximum amounts, usually. When you look at *any* GOP fund-raising form from the APOC, you'll see a pattern -- Veco Execs would give the max to nearly everyone, whether or not they were running in their district.
The Veco money machine is a completely different issue from the Veco Scandal. In that instance, Veco paid legislators to vote against a tax restructuring. Direct payment, quid-pro-quo.
Again, Sarah had no power. She is not part of the Veco Scandal.
"Sarah Palin is another Alaskan politician that received campaign support from VECO.
According to Lenny's memory from doing very hard work researching Veco's donations during the course of the investigation (yes, those were my close friends who took everyone down)....
Veco contributed to nearly every single Alaskan GOP candidate, maximum amounts, usually. When you look at *any* GOP fund-raising form from the APOC, you'll see a pattern -- Veco Execs would give the max to nearly everyone, whether or not they were running in their district.
The Veco money machine is a completely different issue from the Veco Scandal. In that instance, Veco paid legislators to vote against a tax restructuring. Direct payment, quid-pro-quo.
Again, Sarah had no power. She is not part of the Veco Scandal.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:20:44 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Right. You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth
No, that would be Trig Palin.
No, that would be Trig Palin.
| elchip
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2009-07-04 02:21:19 AM |
FishingWithFredo: (But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
Maybe according to you, but not according to the public opinion polls taken afterwards that showed Biden winning by a 20% margin or so.
Maybe according to you, but not according to the public opinion polls taken afterwards that showed Biden winning by a 20% margin or so.
| Shrugging Atlas | 2009-07-04 02:21:28 AM |
I called my parents the day McCain picked Palin for VP. The first word out of my mother's mouth when I said the name was, "Who?"
A week later and they were both talking about her as if she was the second coming. All I've heard from them at family gatherings since the election is pissing and moaning about how unfairly she was treated.
My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
A week later and they were both talking about her as if she was the second coming. All I've heard from them at family gatherings since the election is pissing and moaning about how unfairly she was treated.
My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
| SeismicJizzer | 2009-07-04 02:23:18 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Right. You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
bwahahah I do hope this attention whore stays in the news. Even though she loves to deride the liberal media, her cooter isn't far from a camera, besides other than Ron Paul who else in the republican party can bring out the lolz?
Come on Sarah don't leave!
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
bwahahah I do hope this attention whore stays in the news. Even though she loves to deride the liberal media, her cooter isn't far from a camera, besides other than Ron Paul who else in the republican party can bring out the lolz?
Come on Sarah don't leave!
| propasaurus
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2009-07-04 02:23:22 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
Nah, that would be the person who thought Palin did better than Biden... oh, wait.
Nah, that would be the person who thought Palin did better than Biden... oh, wait.
| technicolor-misfit | 2009-07-04 02:24:01 AM |
deadapostle - Okay, I just watched her resignation video (new window).
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
Seriously... She's so awful, and not just in the verbal diarrhea she can stumble into or the fake folksiness.
She's awful because she simply cannot help herself and inevitably turns into a sorority girl... she gets all self-aggrandizing and defensive and starts trying to build a coalition looking for support in numbers.
Here it was "you have to be naive to not see an effort on the national level..." and "a good point guard makes her way down the court, blah, blah, blah," but she might as well have been saying:
"C'mon, you guys...You know she's only doing this because Chuck liked me better than her... That's the reason she's singling me out. You know it's not fair... Who was up all night hangin' streamers, Christina? Who's idea was the 'Evening in Morocco' theme, huh Cathy? Stacey, who got her dad's neon "Rick's Cafe" sign that everybody said really set off the whole theme? huh? You guys know I worked harder on this than annnyybodyyyy!"
Is it just me or did she:
A - Take WAAAAY too long babbling on
B - Sound like a blithering idiot
C - Make a really bad choice of location with all of the animal noises
D - Keep referencing her kids and pointing to her left and then when they pan out, her kids were on her right
E - Perform that speech in front of about 10 people
?
I've seen better speeches by children in elementary school.
Seriously... She's so awful, and not just in the verbal diarrhea she can stumble into or the fake folksiness.
She's awful because she simply cannot help herself and inevitably turns into a sorority girl... she gets all self-aggrandizing and defensive and starts trying to build a coalition looking for support in numbers.
Here it was "you have to be naive to not see an effort on the national level..." and "a good point guard makes her way down the court, blah, blah, blah," but she might as well have been saying:
"C'mon, you guys...You know she's only doing this because Chuck liked me better than her... That's the reason she's singling me out. You know it's not fair... Who was up all night hangin' streamers, Christina? Who's idea was the 'Evening in Morocco' theme, huh Cathy? Stacey, who got her dad's neon "Rick's Cafe" sign that everybody said really set off the whole theme? huh? You guys know I worked harder on this than annnyybodyyyy!"
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:24:20 AM |
Shrugging Atlas: I called my parents the day McCain picked Palin for VP. The first word out of my mother's mouth when I said the name was, "Who?"
A week later and they were both talking about her as if she was the second coming. All I've heard from them at family gatherings since the election is pissing and moaning about how unfairly she was treated.
My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
Isn't that what Holidays with families are all about? (rhetorical, not testing your knowledge) Just be glad you are not a part of my clan, where broken windows and crying moms and aunts are par for the god damn course.
A week later and they were both talking about her as if she was the second coming. All I've heard from them at family gatherings since the election is pissing and moaning about how unfairly she was treated.
My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
Isn't that what Holidays with families are all about? (rhetorical, not testing your knowledge) Just be glad you are not a part of my clan, where broken windows and crying moms and aunts are par for the god damn course.
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 02:24:26 AM |
Shrugging Atlas: My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
Heh, I actually wasn't going to mention it to my mom when I talked to her earlier, but she brought it up. She was wondering if the reporter hubby had any scoop on things. NOTHING has come through the wire or the news desk yet.
Heh, I actually wasn't going to mention it to my mom when I talked to her earlier, but she brought it up. She was wondering if the reporter hubby had any scoop on things. NOTHING has come through the wire or the news desk yet.
| brainiac-dumdum
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2009-07-04 02:25:45 AM |
Mentat: brainiac-dumdum: Mentat: BuckTurgidson: Sounds like somebody's found the REAL Trig Palin birth certificate.
OMFG HE'S KENYAN!
A pox on you!!!!
When you can steal the simulpost from my keyboard Grasshopper, then your fark-fu will be as strong as mine.
You'll rue the day you posted a joke before I did. Oh, yes. you will rue it indeed.
*fly hands*
OMFG HE'S KENYAN!
A pox on you!!!!
When you can steal the simulpost from my keyboard Grasshopper, then your fark-fu will be as strong as mine.
You'll rue the day you posted a joke before I did. Oh, yes. you will rue it indeed.
*fly hands*
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 02:25:56 AM |
FishingWithFredo: (But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
Yeah, he sure looked stupid standing there winking and blinking, and pulling sleazy cowardly hamfisted pre-planned "say it isn't so, Joe" slams on ...
...oops. Wait a minute.
Yeah, he sure looked stupid standing there winking and blinking, and pulling sleazy cowardly hamfisted pre-planned "say it isn't so, Joe" slams on ...
...oops. Wait a minute.
| Dr.Zom | 2009-07-04 02:26:43 AM |
the opposite of charity is justice: Is she actually saying that she'd just waste money if she stayed in office taking fact-finding missions around the globe? That she could do more political good outside of politics? WHAT?
Yes. She is putting Alaska and the American people first by abandoning her governorship to become a private citizen because that will be more effective. Apathy is a problem you see, and it would be apathetic to continue to perform the duties that she swore on a Bible to perform. To continue as governor would be quitting!
Don't you see?
This speech sounds like she expected whatever the scandal is that prompted it to have come out before the speech.
Indictments coming Monday?
Friday evening announcements are bad enough but holiday announcements = "we want this shiat buried as deeply as humanly possible".
Ohh, and Michael Jackson died! This is our week!
I have no idea what the underlying scandal could be but it has to be huge. I'm wondering if its even a political scandal in that I'd think she'd be better able to weather such while in the office than outside as a regular citizen. Sex scandal?
If it is a scandal, better to work it out off the national stage - her core fanbase won't pay attention.
I still think she's following the money. Whatever this is it's to protect her payday.
Yes. She is putting Alaska and the American people first by abandoning her governorship to become a private citizen because that will be more effective. Apathy is a problem you see, and it would be apathetic to continue to perform the duties that she swore on a Bible to perform. To continue as governor would be quitting!
Don't you see?
This speech sounds like she expected whatever the scandal is that prompted it to have come out before the speech.
Indictments coming Monday?
Friday evening announcements are bad enough but holiday announcements = "we want this shiat buried as deeply as humanly possible".
Ohh, and Michael Jackson died! This is our week!
I have no idea what the underlying scandal could be but it has to be huge. I'm wondering if its even a political scandal in that I'd think she'd be better able to weather such while in the office than outside as a regular citizen. Sex scandal?
If it is a scandal, better to work it out off the national stage - her core fanbase won't pay attention.
I still think she's following the money. Whatever this is it's to protect her payday.
| servoled
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2009-07-04 02:26:58 AM |
Shrugging Atlas: A week later and they were both talking about her as if she was the second coming. All I've heard from them at family gatherings since the election is pissing and moaning about how unfairly she was treated.
My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
You know that all they are going to do is piss and moan even more about how unfairly she's been treated?
My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
You know that all they are going to do is piss and moan even more about how unfairly she's been treated?
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:27:48 AM |
brainiac-dumdum: Mentat: brainiac-dumdum: Mentat: BuckTurgidson: Sounds like somebody's found the REAL Trig Palin birth certificate.
OMFG HE'S KENYAN!
A pox on you!!!!
When you can steal the simulpost from my keyboard Grasshopper, then your fark-fu will be as strong as mine.
You'll rue the day you posted a joke before I did. Oh, yes. you will rue it indeed.
*fly hands*
Rue the day? Who talks like that?
OMFG HE'S KENYAN!
A pox on you!!!!
When you can steal the simulpost from my keyboard Grasshopper, then your fark-fu will be as strong as mine.
You'll rue the day you posted a joke before I did. Oh, yes. you will rue it indeed.
*fly hands*
Rue the day? Who talks like that?
| Ms.Maus | 2009-07-04 02:27:53 AM |
Doctrines have been around for a long time (new window). I don't think Krauthammer invented it.
Yes, the question was confusing, but she could have answered any one of what, four ways, i think, and still been correct. But she had no idea what a doctrine was in relation to the presidency and so she managed to fall flat on her face. I can forgive that though, she was a local, then state level politician.
But 'what newspapers do you read' is not a tough question. There's also her basic history failings, like thinking the Pledge of Allegiance was written when the Founding Fathers were around -- well, that's troubling.
Yes, the question was confusing, but she could have answered any one of what, four ways, i think, and still been correct. But she had no idea what a doctrine was in relation to the presidency and so she managed to fall flat on her face. I can forgive that though, she was a local, then state level politician.
But 'what newspapers do you read' is not a tough question. There's also her basic history failings, like thinking the Pledge of Allegiance was written when the Founding Fathers were around -- well, that's troubling.
| kasmel | 2009-07-04 02:28:24 AM |
the opposite of charity is justice: Whisky Tango Foxtrot.
Just watched her resignation speech and that thing took rambling incoherence to an entirely new level.
Watching it a 2nd time, why is she resigning again?
"... Todd and I are looking at more than half a million dollars in legal bills"
"I cannot stand here as your Governor and allow millions upon millions of our dollars go to waste just so I can hold the title of Governor."
Sounds like they're going broke. 500k is probably a LOT of money for them.
Just watched her resignation speech and that thing took rambling incoherence to an entirely new level.
Watching it a 2nd time, why is she resigning again?
"... Todd and I are looking at more than half a million dollars in legal bills"
"I cannot stand here as your Governor and allow millions upon millions of our dollars go to waste just so I can hold the title of Governor."
Sounds like they're going broke. 500k is probably a LOT of money for them.
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 02:28:37 AM |
FishingWithFredo:
Mr. Fredo -- I'm going to give you the same challenge I give every Palin defender. Give me one Palin quote on a major world issue that you consider an articulate and intelligent commentary on that issue.
Just one.
While you're Googling that, I'll remind you that the McCain campaign refused to let Palin give interviews or press conferences, and when they finally caved to public outrage, they HANDPICKED the Gibson and Couric interviews as creampuff opportunities. In both interviews, the looks of surprise and befuddlement on both Gibson's and Couric's faces when Palin falls on her face are as genuine as it gets. Far from trying to "get her," they were genuinely shocked at how ignorant and unprepared she was.
What's more, everything on Palin's plane/bus was required to be OFF THE RECORD. And I think she eventually gave just one press conference, toward the end of the campaign, where she actually took questions, but it was short. They were terrified of letting her speak off-the-cuff.
And to cap it all off, in this weekend's "press conference" where Palin announced her resignation, she refused to take any questions. Heh.
Mr. Fredo -- I'm going to give you the same challenge I give every Palin defender. Give me one Palin quote on a major world issue that you consider an articulate and intelligent commentary on that issue.
Just one.
While you're Googling that, I'll remind you that the McCain campaign refused to let Palin give interviews or press conferences, and when they finally caved to public outrage, they HANDPICKED the Gibson and Couric interviews as creampuff opportunities. In both interviews, the looks of surprise and befuddlement on both Gibson's and Couric's faces when Palin falls on her face are as genuine as it gets. Far from trying to "get her," they were genuinely shocked at how ignorant and unprepared she was.
What's more, everything on Palin's plane/bus was required to be OFF THE RECORD. And I think she eventually gave just one press conference, toward the end of the campaign, where she actually took questions, but it was short. They were terrified of letting her speak off-the-cuff.
And to cap it all off, in this weekend's "press conference" where Palin announced her resignation, she refused to take any questions. Heh.
| WhoIsWillo
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2009-07-04 02:28:43 AM |
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 02:30:32 AM |
Shrugging Atlas: My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
Tomorrow's Fark headline:
Beloved Farker Shrugging Atlas killed at family 4th of July gathering. OMGWTFBBQDIAF
Tomorrow's Fark headline:
Beloved Farker Shrugging Atlas killed at family 4th of July gathering. OMGWTFBBQDIAF
| brainiac-dumdum
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2009-07-04 02:30:34 AM |
| QU!RK1019 | 2009-07-04 02:30:35 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Palin had figured out that Couric wasn't there to do an impartial interview, and was there to play "Gotcha!" on behalf of the political party she works for.
Couric and her network knew they had found a golden goose. Making her look stupid was a business move, not a political one.
/So blame the free market?
Couric and her network knew they had found a golden goose. Making her look stupid was a business move, not a political one.
/So blame the free market?
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 02:30:54 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: The Veco money machine is a completely different issue from the Veco Scandal. In that instance, Veco paid legislators to vote against a tax restructuring. Direct payment, quid-pro-quo.
Again, Sarah had no power. She is not part of the Veco Scandal.
She's part of a NEW one. Involving many of the same players. That's the point that's being made here.
Again, Sarah had no power. She is not part of the Veco Scandal.
She's part of a NEW one. Involving many of the same players. That's the point that's being made here.
| Fjornir
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2009-07-04 02:31:05 AM |
Sabyen91: Evidence? There isn't much right now? What was your first thought when you first found out she was quitting?
Well, when I first found out she was quitting it was mixed with a story of a 2012 presidential bid so my first thoughts were conflicted... "thank god" mixed with equal parts of "oh god anything but that" and "god it would be nice to watch Obama curbstomp her"
Well, when I first found out she was quitting it was mixed with a story of a 2012 presidential bid so my first thoughts were conflicted... "thank god" mixed with equal parts of "oh god anything but that" and "god it would be nice to watch Obama curbstomp her"
| wejash
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2009-07-04 02:31:29 AM |
Keep in mind that the U.S. Attorney has discretion to pursue cases in different ways.
For example, they chose not to pursue anything against Spitzer when he resigned.
The Spitzer situation would have been a tough federal case to make and the U.S. Attorney has not been on a roll indicting Alaskan politicians (making Ted Stevens into a victim takes some extra special level stupid).
So, purely speculating my butt off, this could have been a rush deal done to end further digging. The feds can drop pursuing a case which they might lose -- and would no doubt be accused of pursuing purely to "get" an Obama opponent. And she gets to keep her ambitions alive theoretically. Just have to rebuild without being able to prove what a great executive she really is. Er, yeah, that was the claim, right?
For example, they chose not to pursue anything against Spitzer when he resigned.
The Spitzer situation would have been a tough federal case to make and the U.S. Attorney has not been on a roll indicting Alaskan politicians (making Ted Stevens into a victim takes some extra special level stupid).
So, purely speculating my butt off, this could have been a rush deal done to end further digging. The feds can drop pursuing a case which they might lose -- and would no doubt be accused of pursuing purely to "get" an Obama opponent. And she gets to keep her ambitions alive theoretically. Just have to rebuild without being able to prove what a great executive she really is. Er, yeah, that was the claim, right?
| rohar
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2009-07-04 02:32:09 AM |
FishingWithFredo: What the fark is the Bush Doctrine? Charles Krauthammer said it changed four times, and Charlie Gibson's reference wasn't the most up-to-date one.
Funny, I know the basics of 3 of the Bush Doctorins, and I don't even work in politics.elchip: FishingWithFredo: (But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
Maybe according to you, but not according to the public opinion polls taken afterwards that showed Biden winning by a 20% margin or so.
Biden got extra points for using complete sentences. I know, it seems unfair, but that's how elitist we've become.
Funny, I know the basics of 3 of the Bush Doctorins, and I don't even work in politics.elchip: FishingWithFredo: (But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
Maybe according to you, but not according to the public opinion polls taken afterwards that showed Biden winning by a 20% margin or so.
Biden got extra points for using complete sentences. I know, it seems unfair, but that's how elitist we've become.
| GitOffaMyLawn | 2009-07-04 02:33:29 AM |
elchip: GAT_00: Oh, that is hilarious.
Not as hilarious as
[picture from the resignation speech]
from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
At first I thought that the image was gimped, so I went back and looked at the video.
If it's gimped, then it's a reasonably good job.
/ Am not a graphics person
// has not done gimp hackery
/// does not have a copy of Photoshop
Not as hilarious as
[picture from the resignation speech]
from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
At first I thought that the image was gimped, so I went back and looked at the video.
If it's gimped, then it's a reasonably good job.
/ Am not a graphics person
// has not done gimp hackery
/// does not have a copy of Photoshop
| Harry_Seldon | 2009-07-04 02:35:00 AM |
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Harry_Seldon: I finally got curious to who Nina Hartley is. She is a 50 year old former porn star from 80's. Odd Fark handle.
FTFY.
Much better than Britney Spear's Speculum.
FTFY.
Much better than Britney Spear's Speculum.
| randomjsa | 2009-07-04 02:35:12 AM |
I can't decide what's worse, the fact that a left wing blogger from Alaska hates Palin so much that she just can't let it go or the number of people who believe the left wing blogger from Alaska because they hate Palin so much that they can't let it go.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
| Fjornir
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2009-07-04 02:35:22 AM |
Has anyone got link handy to the Palin vs. Biden debate images thread?
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:35:34 AM |
brainiac-dumdum: Jakevol2: Rue the day? Who talks like that?
I don't get it
This may help. But honestly you should know this without my help. Hell I provided you with a visual clue in my initial post. (new window)
I don't get it
This may help. But honestly you should know this without my help. Hell I provided you with a visual clue in my initial post. (new window)
| cardex | 2009-07-04 02:35:47 AM |
rohar: Funny, I know the basics of 3 of the Bush Doctorins, and I don't even work in politics.
all of the Bush Doctorins are basically "In any situation look at all the options and pick the one with the worst outcome for the American people".
all of the Bush Doctorins are basically "In any situation look at all the options and pick the one with the worst outcome for the American people".
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 02:36:12 AM |
propasaurus: FishingWithFredo: Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
Nah, that would be the person who thought Palin did better than Biden... oh, wait.
Nah, that would be the person who thought Biden did.
Or perhaps you've forgotten The Biden Debate Error/Lie/Hallucination List (new window)
Perhaps you'd like to address all 22 of his minor to major gaffes and tell us how he kicked Palin's ass in the debate.
Nah, that would be the person who thought Palin did better than Biden... oh, wait.
Nah, that would be the person who thought Biden did.
Or perhaps you've forgotten The Biden Debate Error/Lie/Hallucination List (new window)
Perhaps you'd like to address all 22 of his minor to major gaffes and tell us how he kicked Palin's ass in the debate.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:36:57 AM |
randomjsa: I can't decide what's worse, the fact that a left wing blogger from Alaska hates Palin so much that she just can't let it go or the number of people who believe the left wing blogger from Alaska because they hate Palin so much that they can't let it go.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
did she or did she not resign under hasty and mysterious circumstances?
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
did she or did she not resign under hasty and mysterious circumstances?
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 02:37:02 AM |
randomjsa: I can't decide what's worse, the fact that a left wing blogger from Alaska hates Palin so much that she just can't let it go or the number of people who believe the left wing blogger from Alaska because they hate Palin so much that they can't let it go.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
thank you for showing up to keep this one hilarious.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
thank you for showing up to keep this one hilarious.
| tallguywithglasseson
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2009-07-04 02:37:08 AM |
*wink*
| Dr.Zom | 2009-07-04 02:37:08 AM |
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 02:38:00 AM |
Elements of the Bush Doctrine were evident in the first months of Bush's presidency. Conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer used the term in February 2001 to refer to the president's increased unilateralism in foreign policy, specifically regarding the president's decision to withdraw from the ABM treaty.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 02:38:16 AM |
shower_in_my_socks:
She's part of a NEW one. Involving many of the same players. That's the point that's being made here.
Don't you believe it. It's nonsense.
Believe me, I think Sarah is one of the worst people ever to hold any public office (and being Alaskan, I've seen some reaaaaal doosies), but she is not part of that crowd.
Bill Allen worked with the old-school Alaska GOP Guard. When Sarah was trying to be part of that an not rocking the boat, she reaped the Veco rewards.
However, once she caved to public pressure and revisited the tax that Veco killed, she was the enemy.
Now, while the investigation was underway, we *did* get some by-catch convictions that weren't part of the main scandal -- Ted Stevens was by-catch. He was taking money because Bill owed him for many, many years of lucrative deals, no quid-pro-quo. We also found a couple of crooked prison lobbyists and such. Veco was dirty, now it's dead.
She's part of a NEW one. Involving many of the same players. That's the point that's being made here.
Don't you believe it. It's nonsense.
Believe me, I think Sarah is one of the worst people ever to hold any public office (and being Alaskan, I've seen some reaaaaal doosies), but she is not part of that crowd.
Bill Allen worked with the old-school Alaska GOP Guard. When Sarah was trying to be part of that an not rocking the boat, she reaped the Veco rewards.
However, once she caved to public pressure and revisited the tax that Veco killed, she was the enemy.
Now, while the investigation was underway, we *did* get some by-catch convictions that weren't part of the main scandal -- Ted Stevens was by-catch. He was taking money because Bill owed him for many, many years of lucrative deals, no quid-pro-quo. We also found a couple of crooked prison lobbyists and such. Veco was dirty, now it's dead.
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 02:39:22 AM |
The only way this can get better is if it turns out that Trig is actually a Mini-Me evil supergenius who has been pulling the strings all along.
| Crown_of_Shoes | 2009-07-04 02:39:32 AM |
back for an encore!
| wejash
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2009-07-04 02:40:13 AM |
FishingWithFredo: You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
You're really going to go down with the ship, aren't you?
Well, hat's off to you. Here's the lyrics for Nearer My God To Thee, Mr. Titanic Dude.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
You're really going to go down with the ship, aren't you?
Well, hat's off to you. Here's the lyrics for Nearer My God To Thee, Mr. Titanic Dude.
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 02:40:52 AM |
randomjsa 2009-07-04 02:35:12 AM
I can't decide what's worse, the fact that a left wing blogger from Alaska hates Palin so much that she just can't let it go or the number of people who believe the left wing blogger from Alaska because they hate Palin so much that they can't let it go.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
Translation: Reality is a concept that I not only do not subscribe to, I refuse to acknowledge it even exists.
I can't decide what's worse, the fact that a left wing blogger from Alaska hates Palin so much that she just can't let it go or the number of people who believe the left wing blogger from Alaska because they hate Palin so much that they can't let it go.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
Translation: Reality is a concept that I not only do not subscribe to, I refuse to acknowledge it even exists.
| Crown_of_Shoes | 2009-07-04 02:41:16 AM |
Another from the vault:
| Crown_of_Shoes | 2009-07-04 02:42:14 AM |
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 02:42:23 AM |
Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 02:45:18 AM |
this just keeps getting better. Fredo, how long is your little show going to be ? it's late here but I hate to miss any of this.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:45:32 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
| Crown_of_Shoes | 2009-07-04 02:45:37 AM |
Shrugging Atlas: I called my parents the day McCain picked Palin for VP. The first word out of my mother's mouth when I said the name was, "Who?"
A week later and they were both talking about her as if she was the second coming. All I've heard from them at family gatherings since the election is pissing and moaning about how unfairly she was treated.
My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
You don't understand. Your parents and Sarah Palin alike think that it should be legal to offer no-bid contracts to political cronies.
/worth suc'ceedin' over.
A week later and they were both talking about her as if she was the second coming. All I've heard from them at family gatherings since the election is pissing and moaning about how unfairly she was treated.
My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
You don't understand. Your parents and Sarah Palin alike think that it should be legal to offer no-bid contracts to political cronies.
/worth suc'ceedin' over.
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 02:46:10 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: shower_in_my_socks:
She's part of a NEW one. Involving many of the same players. That's the point that's being made here.
Don't you believe it. It's nonsense.
Believe me, I think Sarah is one of the worst people ever to hold any public office (and being Alaskan, I've seen some reaaaaal doosies), but she is not part of that crowd.
Bill Allen worked with the old-school Alaska GOP Guard. When Sarah was trying to be part of that an not rocking the boat, she reaped the Veco rewards.
However, once she caved to public pressure and revisited the tax that Veco killed, she was the enemy.
Now, while the investigation was underway, we *did* get some by-catch convictions that weren't part of the main scandal -- Ted Stevens was by-catch. He was taking money because Bill owed him for many, many years of lucrative deals, no quid-pro-quo. We also found a couple of crooked prison lobbyists and such. Veco was dirty, now it's dead.
I appreciate your perspective. But according to media sources, as recently as this May, both Allen and Smith were part of an "ongoing investigation." And their sentencing was supposed to be delayed until June 30th, when the feds are/were due to give a report on the extent of their cooperation.
I haven't heard about them getting sentenced this past week, but the timing of all of it is a bit coincidental.
If it isn't this, it's something else. The resignation reeks of scandal. But I can see why people are looking at this first.
She's part of a NEW one. Involving many of the same players. That's the point that's being made here.
Don't you believe it. It's nonsense.
Believe me, I think Sarah is one of the worst people ever to hold any public office (and being Alaskan, I've seen some reaaaaal doosies), but she is not part of that crowd.
Bill Allen worked with the old-school Alaska GOP Guard. When Sarah was trying to be part of that an not rocking the boat, she reaped the Veco rewards.
However, once she caved to public pressure and revisited the tax that Veco killed, she was the enemy.
Now, while the investigation was underway, we *did* get some by-catch convictions that weren't part of the main scandal -- Ted Stevens was by-catch. He was taking money because Bill owed him for many, many years of lucrative deals, no quid-pro-quo. We also found a couple of crooked prison lobbyists and such. Veco was dirty, now it's dead.
I appreciate your perspective. But according to media sources, as recently as this May, both Allen and Smith were part of an "ongoing investigation." And their sentencing was supposed to be delayed until June 30th, when the feds are/were due to give a report on the extent of their cooperation.
I haven't heard about them getting sentenced this past week, but the timing of all of it is a bit coincidental.
If it isn't this, it's something else. The resignation reeks of scandal. But I can see why people are looking at this first.
| brainiac-dumdum
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2009-07-04 02:46:34 AM |
Jakevol2: brainiac-dumdum: Jakevol2: Rue the day? Who talks like that?
I don't get it
This may help. But honestly you should know this without my help. Hell I provided you with a visual clue in my initial post. (new window)
it's just some guys name I don't recognize. am I just supposed use the internet to find out who he is or something?
I don't get it
This may help. But honestly you should know this without my help. Hell I provided you with a visual clue in my initial post. (new window)
it's just some guys name I don't recognize. am I just supposed use the internet to find out who he is or something?
| triple | 2009-07-04 02:47:11 AM |
woo, rumors!
let me know when there's something real
shes out of politics now you can stop harassing the poor woman
let me know when there's something real
shes out of politics now you can stop harassing the poor woman
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-04 02:47:22 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
I just wanted to point out that the link you posted says 27.
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
I just wanted to point out that the link you posted says 27.
| Bender The Offender | 2009-07-04 02:47:31 AM |
randomjsa:
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
Okay, I admit... I LOL'd a little.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
Okay, I admit... I LOL'd a little.
| rohar
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2009-07-04 02:47:50 AM |
randomjsa: I can't decide what's worse, the fact that a left wing blogger from Alaska hates Palin so much that she just can't let it go or the number of people who believe the left wing blogger from Alaska because they hate Palin so much that they can't let it go.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
I can't understand what's worse. That we've seen this series of events a thousand times and it always ends the same way, or that you, much like Charlie when Lucy is holding the ball, don't see it coming.
The only reason the left has any "fear" of Palin, was the possibility that over half the country could have put her in national office, bot because of her ability to take a bite out of a serious platform.
That's not to say I agree with the democratic platform, but come on, teletubies on crack could have put better talking points together than what the republicans came up with last round.
You investigated her 10 ways from Sunday for every conceivable crime under the sun, and when that failed miserably you just went back to ad hominem attacks. All because she scared the hell out of you for about two weeks when it looked as if the Chosen One could actually lose after all.
I can't understand what's worse. That we've seen this series of events a thousand times and it always ends the same way, or that you, much like Charlie when Lucy is holding the ball, don't see it coming.
The only reason the left has any "fear" of Palin, was the possibility that over half the country could have put her in national office, bot because of her ability to take a bite out of a serious platform.
That's not to say I agree with the democratic platform, but come on, teletubies on crack could have put better talking points together than what the republicans came up with last round.
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2009-07-04 02:48:09 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
You just hang in there, Captain.
I'm sure you can save the ship.
/Hot as an M80.
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
You just hang in there, Captain.
I'm sure you can save the ship.
/Hot as an M80.
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2009-07-04 02:48:10 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Really? In a thread where we're being called partisan hacks for linking some guy's blog, you use the farking Zero Sheep BLOG as your unimpeachable source?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Really? In a thread where we're being called partisan hacks for linking some guy's blog, you use the farking Zero Sheep BLOG as your unimpeachable source?
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:48:32 AM |
brainiac-dumdum: Jakevol2: brainiac-dumdum: Jakevol2: Rue the day? Who talks like that?
I don't get it
This may help. But honestly you should know this without my help. Hell I provided you with a visual clue in my initial post. (new window)
it's just some guys name I don't recognize. am I just supposed use the internet to find out who he is or something?
Why do I get the feeling like I am Brer Fox getting trapped in the tar baby?
I don't get it
This may help. But honestly you should know this without my help. Hell I provided you with a visual clue in my initial post. (new window)
it's just some guys name I don't recognize. am I just supposed use the internet to find out who he is or something?
Why do I get the feeling like I am Brer Fox getting trapped in the tar baby?
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 02:50:05 AM |
wejash: FishingWithFredo: You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
You're really going to go down with the ship, aren't you?
Well, hat's off to you. Here's the lyrics for Nearer My God To Thee, Mr. Titanic Dude.
A Joe Biden defender! All right!
How you coming on that list of 28 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
Yeah; that's what I thought.
/Trying to figure out how I've been put in the position of defending a person I've been criticizing all day.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
You're really going to go down with the ship, aren't you?
Well, hat's off to you. Here's the lyrics for Nearer My God To Thee, Mr. Titanic Dude.
A Joe Biden defender! All right!
How you coming on that list of 28 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
Yeah; that's what I thought.
/Trying to figure out how I've been put in the position of defending a person I've been criticizing all day.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 02:50:34 AM |
Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
Especially considering he's explicitly attacked the source of this article. It's like they don't even pretend to be intellectually honest anymore. Silly idiots.
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
Especially considering he's explicitly attacked the source of this article. It's like they don't even pretend to be intellectually honest anymore. Silly idiots.
| Phoenix_M | 2009-07-04 02:51:43 AM |
I think some rag like the national enquirer has proof that Trig is the daughter's kid and is going to run the story soon.
| Sgt. Pepper | 2009-07-04 02:51:54 AM |
Some of you farkers really suck hard at the "Obama = x..." meme.It's gotta go down like:
Obama = something cool/trendy
Biden = something wise/experienced
McCain = something absurdly old
Palin = wtf
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 02:51:56 AM |
Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
Page 1 in The Playbook. "Ignore the merits; focus on the source." Well played.
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
Page 1 in The Playbook. "Ignore the merits; focus on the source." Well played.
| rohar
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2009-07-04 02:52:03 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
I'll grant you that Palin didn't lie. Her utterings were so random and undecipherable that they couldn't possibly be understood, much less vetted as truth. The moderator would ask a question, and she'd start a sentence that had nothing to do with the question and end the sentence with a completely different subject that had nothing to do with the question. I have no idea how this would work while trying to iron out a treaty with another country, but it terrifies me.
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
I'll grant you that Palin didn't lie. Her utterings were so random and undecipherable that they couldn't possibly be understood, much less vetted as truth. The moderator would ask a question, and she'd start a sentence that had nothing to do with the question and end the sentence with a completely different subject that had nothing to do with the question. I have no idea how this would work while trying to iron out a treaty with another country, but it terrifies me.
| Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin | 2009-07-04 02:52:18 AM |
ne2d: Check out the big blog on Brad!
/got nuthin
It's "Brett" not "Brad".
/always thought it was Brad too
/LOL'd anyhow
/got nuthin
It's "Brett" not "Brad".
/always thought it was Brad too
/LOL'd anyhow
| palexc | 2009-07-04 02:52:55 AM |
After watching that video, there is no way in hell there isn't something coming. She's rambling, unsure of what she's saying, breathing awkwardly.
| kasmel | 2009-07-04 02:52:59 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Biden is a terrible speaker. The funny thing is, he still came across better than Palin.
As for making stuff up...can you see Russia from that bridge to nowhere?
I'm largely indifferent to Palin. I do not wish her ill. I do not think that she's necessarily a stupid person, just, perhaps, not as informed as I would want a Federal level administrator to be. I want to think that the person I'm voting for is at least as intelligent and informed as I am. Palin not only demonstrated that she could not express herself well, she came across as legitimately not knowing what she was talking about.
I do not, however, think that treatment of her has necessarily been 'unfair'. She has not endured anything that hasn't already been done to dozens of other people that chose to participate in the national spotlight. She chose to be McCain's runningmate. I do sort of feel sorry for her in that she may have had a relatively quiet and happy life/career out of the way. But, honestly, she has no one to blame but herself. Her ambition coupled with her general ignorance are to blame for the problems that she's experiencing.
Take that how you will.
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Biden is a terrible speaker. The funny thing is, he still came across better than Palin.
As for making stuff up...can you see Russia from that bridge to nowhere?
I'm largely indifferent to Palin. I do not wish her ill. I do not think that she's necessarily a stupid person, just, perhaps, not as informed as I would want a Federal level administrator to be. I want to think that the person I'm voting for is at least as intelligent and informed as I am. Palin not only demonstrated that she could not express herself well, she came across as legitimately not knowing what she was talking about.
I do not, however, think that treatment of her has necessarily been 'unfair'. She has not endured anything that hasn't already been done to dozens of other people that chose to participate in the national spotlight. She chose to be McCain's runningmate. I do sort of feel sorry for her in that she may have had a relatively quiet and happy life/career out of the way. But, honestly, she has no one to blame but herself. Her ambition coupled with her general ignorance are to blame for the problems that she's experiencing.
Take that how you will.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:53:38 AM |
Joliet_Jake: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
Especially considering he's explicitly attacked the source of this article. It's like they don't even pretend to be intellectually honest anymore. Silly idiots.
and I want to add for the record that I do think the Brad Blog holds much weight either. But I do believe there is something fishy going on with her hasty and mysterious resignation.
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
Especially considering he's explicitly attacked the source of this article. It's like they don't even pretend to be intellectually honest anymore. Silly idiots.
and I want to add for the record that I do think the Brad Blog holds much weight either. But I do believe there is something fishy going on with her hasty and mysterious resignation.
| brainiac-dumdum
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2009-07-04 02:54:01 AM |
Jakevol2: Why do I get the feeling like I am Brer Fox getting trapped in the tar baby?
you made me google "tar baby"
yer gonna do some ruing as well
you made me google "tar baby"
yer gonna do some ruing as well
| Harry_Seldon | 2009-07-04 02:54:38 AM |
I hate to see a story like this get green light. It is such a unsubstantiated allegation. That doesn't me I support her, but I like to think there is actually some semblance of fair play.
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 02:55:00 AM |
Phoenix_M: I think some rag like the national enquirer has proof that Trig is the daughter's kid and is going to run the story soon.
how would that hurt her as governor ? and as a personal issue it doesn't go away.
something is up with resigning, despite the gifted ones trying desperately to ignore it.
how would that hurt her as governor ? and as a personal issue it doesn't go away.
something is up with resigning, despite the gifted ones trying desperately to ignore it.
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 02:55:23 AM |
/Trying to figure out how I've been put in the position of defending a person I've been criticizing all day.
By making the moronic statement that she--winky! blinky!-- performed better--sorry, I'm not going to answer the question you in the media want me to answer! Even though that's what I'm up here for!-- in the debate.
Wink! Blink!
By making the moronic statement that she--winky! blinky!-- performed better--sorry, I'm not going to answer the question you in the media want me to answer! Even though that's what I'm up here for!-- in the debate.
Wink! Blink!
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 02:55:26 AM |
shower_in_my_socks:
I appreciate your perspective. But according to media sources, as recently as this May, both Allen and Smith were part of an "ongoing investigation." And their sentencing was supposed to be delayed until June 30th, when the feds are/were due to give a report on the extent of their cooperation.
I haven't heard about them getting sentenced this past week, but the timing of all of it is a bit coincidental.
If it isn't this, it's something else. The resignation reeks of scandal. But I can see why people are looking at this first.
They have not yet been sentenced. The ongoing investigation concerns two legislators.
Ted Stevens' son Ben Stevens was president of the AK Senate and is alleged to have taken the most money from Veco as part of the main scandal. Nobody is really sure why the Feds haven't charged him yet, but the most evidence gathered for anyone was against Ben. Ben had a "consultant" position with Veco at the same time he was the Senate lead, and took a $50K/year salary, but could not explain what he "consulted" on for the money. There are other irregularities.
The other is Former state Rep. Bruce Weyhrauch, whose trial is being held up on a possible SCOTUS appeal.
I appreciate your perspective. But according to media sources, as recently as this May, both Allen and Smith were part of an "ongoing investigation." And their sentencing was supposed to be delayed until June 30th, when the feds are/were due to give a report on the extent of their cooperation.
I haven't heard about them getting sentenced this past week, but the timing of all of it is a bit coincidental.
If it isn't this, it's something else. The resignation reeks of scandal. But I can see why people are looking at this first.
They have not yet been sentenced. The ongoing investigation concerns two legislators.
Ted Stevens' son Ben Stevens was president of the AK Senate and is alleged to have taken the most money from Veco as part of the main scandal. Nobody is really sure why the Feds haven't charged him yet, but the most evidence gathered for anyone was against Ben. Ben had a "consultant" position with Veco at the same time he was the Senate lead, and took a $50K/year salary, but could not explain what he "consulted" on for the money. There are other irregularities.
The other is Former state Rep. Bruce Weyhrauch, whose trial is being held up on a possible SCOTUS appeal.
| paygun | 2009-07-04 02:57:02 AM |
Harry_Seldon: I hate to see a story like this get green light. It is such a unsubstantiated allegation. That doesn't me I support her, but I like to think there is actually some semblance of fair play.
In politics, or on Fark? Cause you're shiat out of luck on both.
In politics, or on Fark? Cause you're shiat out of luck on both.
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 02:57:23 AM |
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Please don't go Sarah, we will miss you!!!
We want you to run in 2012, to seal Obama's reelection.
Please don't go Sarah, we will miss you!!!
We want you to run in 2012, to seal Obama's reelection.
| Jocundry | 2009-07-04 02:57:26 AM |
| wejash
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2009-07-04 02:57:27 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Trying to figure out how I've been put in the position of defending a person I've been criticizing all day.
You elected yourself the Defender of Madame Failboat, you farkwit.
You're busily citing right-wing loon blogs as a source for attacking Joe Biden over who "won" a debate. Who won? Are you tryingfor a recount of the damn election? That's how you know who won.
Otherwise, your entire exercise is to defend Sarah Palin. The ship's taking on water mightily there, Cap'n. But Im' sure you can salvage it. Maybe you can get a Recount 2008 Election Fund started.
You elected yourself the Defender of Madame Failboat, you farkwit.
You're busily citing right-wing loon blogs as a source for attacking Joe Biden over who "won" a debate. Who won? Are you tryingfor a recount of the damn election? That's how you know who won.
Otherwise, your entire exercise is to defend Sarah Palin. The ship's taking on water mightily there, Cap'n. But Im' sure you can salvage it. Maybe you can get a Recount 2008 Election Fund started.
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 02:57:46 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: The other is Former state Rep. Bruce Weyhrauch, whose trial is being held up on a possible SCOTUS appeal.
I think out of all of them I was most disappointed in Bruce. He seemed like such a nice, down to earth man. His kid was in scouts with my kid, he showed up to all the public radio fundraisers, etc.
I think out of all of them I was most disappointed in Bruce. He seemed like such a nice, down to earth man. His kid was in scouts with my kid, he showed up to all the public radio fundraisers, etc.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 02:58:13 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: Sorry; did I say there were 22 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
Page 1 in The Playbook. "Ignore the merits; focus on the source." Well played.
When Michael Jackson's death was reported by TMZ first, I waited for other more respectable sources to confirm his death. TMZ got it right but the sun even shines on a dog's ass once in while.
I am not going to hold my breath for conformation from other more reliable sources to concur with the sources you have provided.
And yes it does come from page one, because that is one of the most important aspects of an effective argument! Citation of reliable sources! Jesus Christ! Did you even go to college?
There were 28. (new window)
But Biden won the debate because of his grasp of the issues. Or at least his grasp of saying whatever the hell you want, factual or not, and those in the media with an agenda will do the rest.
Considering the validity of your sources I must conclude your points are moot.
Page 1 in The Playbook. "Ignore the merits; focus on the source." Well played.
When Michael Jackson's death was reported by TMZ first, I waited for other more respectable sources to confirm his death. TMZ got it right but the sun even shines on a dog's ass once in while.
I am not going to hold my breath for conformation from other more reliable sources to concur with the sources you have provided.
And yes it does come from page one, because that is one of the most important aspects of an effective argument! Citation of reliable sources! Jesus Christ! Did you even go to college?
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 02:58:40 AM |
FishingWithFredo: How you coming on that list of 28 errors/lies/hallucinations by Biden in the debate?
Yeah; that's what I thought.
How are you coming along with coming up with just one Palin quote on a major world issue that you consider an articulate and intelligent commentary on that issue?
Should be easy. I can give you a dozen from Obama. I think I'm 0 for 10 on Palin supporters answering my challenge. I guess it's a pretty hardball question, eh? Very gotcha-y.
Nothing?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Yeah; that's what I thought.
How are you coming along with coming up with just one Palin quote on a major world issue that you consider an articulate and intelligent commentary on that issue?
Should be easy. I can give you a dozen from Obama. I think I'm 0 for 10 on Palin supporters answering my challenge. I guess it's a pretty hardball question, eh? Very gotcha-y.
Nothing?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
| Clickscope | 2009-07-04 02:58:53 AM |
ahh she blew it, how did I not see this coming? well when it rains it pours, i'd like to see her try to get out of this one
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 02:59:19 AM |
Jakevol2:
and I want to add for the record that I do think the Brad Blog holds much weight either. But I do believe there is something fishy going on with her hasty and mysterious resignation.
Brad Blog pulls no weight.
However, Shannyn Moore and Andrew Halcro know Alaska politics. They're both saying the same thing. Shannyn is the one cited in Brad Blog... but she also has a tweet up about it atm, and spoke about it on MSNBC earlier this evening.
and I want to add for the record that I do think the Brad Blog holds much weight either. But I do believe there is something fishy going on with her hasty and mysterious resignation.
Brad Blog pulls no weight.
However, Shannyn Moore and Andrew Halcro know Alaska politics. They're both saying the same thing. Shannyn is the one cited in Brad Blog... but she also has a tweet up about it atm, and spoke about it on MSNBC earlier this evening.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 02:59:25 AM |
wejash: FishingWithFredo: Trying to figure out how I've been put in the position of defending a person I've been criticizing all day.
You elected yourself the Defender of Madame Failboat, you farkwit.
You're busily citing right-wing loon blogs as a source for attacking Joe Biden over who "won" a debate. Who won? Are you tryingfor a recount of the damn election? That's how you know who won.
Otherwise, your entire exercise is to defend Sarah Palin. The ship's taking on water mightily there, Cap'n. But Im' sure you can salvage it. Maybe you can get a Recount 2008 Election Fund started.
Not to defend the Palinator, but winning an election doesn't mean you won the debates. Al Gore clearly won every debate of the 2000 election.
Well, I guess it could be argued he also won in 2000, but still.
You elected yourself the Defender of Madame Failboat, you farkwit.
You're busily citing right-wing loon blogs as a source for attacking Joe Biden over who "won" a debate. Who won? Are you tryingfor a recount of the damn election? That's how you know who won.
Otherwise, your entire exercise is to defend Sarah Palin. The ship's taking on water mightily there, Cap'n. But Im' sure you can salvage it. Maybe you can get a Recount 2008 Election Fund started.
Not to defend the Palinator, but winning an election doesn't mean you won the debates. Al Gore clearly won every debate of the 2000 election.
Well, I guess it could be argued he also won in 2000, but still.
| destructor muffin | 2009-07-04 02:59:32 AM |
My dad, the super conservative, said it was probably because she wants to care for her special needs kid.
If this is true, I'm going to be the world's biggest smart ass.
If this is true, I'm going to be the world's biggest smart ass.
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 02:59:55 AM |
Harry_Seldon: I hate to see a story like this get green light. It is such a unsubstantiated allegation. That doesn't me I support her, but I like to think there is actually some semblance of fair play.
Yeah like it would be horrible if Fark green lit that people had a tape of Michele Obama blaming things on "whitey" during an election again and again for days and it turned out it didn't actually exist.
Something like that would be bad.
Yeah like it would be horrible if Fark green lit that people had a tape of Michele Obama blaming things on "whitey" during an election again and again for days and it turned out it didn't actually exist.
Something like that would be bad.
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 03:02:20 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: They have not yet been sentenced. The ongoing investigation concerns two legislators.
Ted Stevens' son Ben Stevens was president of the AK Senate and is alleged to have taken the most money from Veco as part of the main scandal. Nobody is really sure why the Feds haven't charged him yet, but the most evidence gathered for anyone was against Ben. Ben had a "consultant" position with Veco at the same time he was the Senate lead, and took a $50K/year salary, but could not explain what he "consulted" on for the money. There are other irregularities.
The other is Former state Rep. Bruce Weyhrauch, whose trial is being held up on a possible SCOTUS appeal.
Fair enough.
So, for the Fark.com record, you don't think there's any connection between the June 30th report date and Palin resigning just 3 days later?
I'm willing to admit, for now, that it's all just a giant coincidence.
Ted Stevens' son Ben Stevens was president of the AK Senate and is alleged to have taken the most money from Veco as part of the main scandal. Nobody is really sure why the Feds haven't charged him yet, but the most evidence gathered for anyone was against Ben. Ben had a "consultant" position with Veco at the same time he was the Senate lead, and took a $50K/year salary, but could not explain what he "consulted" on for the money. There are other irregularities.
The other is Former state Rep. Bruce Weyhrauch, whose trial is being held up on a possible SCOTUS appeal.
Fair enough.
So, for the Fark.com record, you don't think there's any connection between the June 30th report date and Palin resigning just 3 days later?
I'm willing to admit, for now, that it's all just a giant coincidence.
| technicolor-misfit | 2009-07-04 03:02:40 AM |
FishingWithFredo - You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
Dude, how often have you ever seen a politician so farking stupid they don't even have to caricatured, but can simply be quoted directly?
But, I'm glad you couldn't maintain the facade of cool distance...
FishingWithFredo Quote 2009-07-04 01:53:55 AM
I was never a Palin supporter necessarily;"
It lasted what... maybe 10-15 minutes?
It's okay, dude. She can still be your pretend girlfriend. It's just that now she's gonna have to be a pretend governor too...
I've said it a hundred times... but I'll say it again, she's farking awful... and why people squander their credibility trying to pretend she's not is baffling.
And before anyone says it again... fear her? My god, I'm farking devastated right now. I feel the way I felt when 'Journeyman' was cancelled. I feel the way I felt when the perfect Telecaster got sniped out from under me on eBay.
Sadly, this is the best thing that's happened to the GOP in years. If Palin was around (assuming she could survive the primaries) she was gonna take the base. Period. She was going to cut the Republican party in half and push away independents... She'd lock up the fundies and Real AmericansTM, leave non-fundies going "WTF?" and send undecideds and moderates heading for the hills.
I'm hoping like hell she still tosses her hat in the ring.
Dude, how often have you ever seen a politician so farking stupid they don't even have to caricatured, but can simply be quoted directly?
But, I'm glad you couldn't maintain the facade of cool distance...
FishingWithFredo Quote 2009-07-04 01:53:55 AM
I was never a Palin supporter necessarily;"
It lasted what... maybe 10-15 minutes?
It's okay, dude. She can still be your pretend girlfriend. It's just that now she's gonna have to be a pretend governor too...
I've said it a hundred times... but I'll say it again, she's farking awful... and why people squander their credibility trying to pretend she's not is baffling.
And before anyone says it again... fear her? My god, I'm farking devastated right now. I feel the way I felt when 'Journeyman' was cancelled. I feel the way I felt when the perfect Telecaster got sniped out from under me on eBay.
Sadly, this is the best thing that's happened to the GOP in years. If Palin was around (assuming she could survive the primaries) she was gonna take the base. Period. She was going to cut the Republican party in half and push away independents... She'd lock up the fundies and Real AmericansTM, leave non-fundies going "WTF?" and send undecideds and moderates heading for the hills.
I'm hoping like hell she still tosses her hat in the ring.
| wejash
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2009-07-04 03:04:20 AM |
Joliet_Jake: wejash: FishingWithFredo: Trying to figure out how I've been put in the position of defending a person I've been criticizing all day.
You elected yourself the Defender of Madame Failboat, you farkwit.
You're busily citing right-wing loon blogs as a source for attacking Joe Biden over who "won" a debate. Who won? Are you tryingfor a recount of the damn election? That's how you know who won.
Otherwise, your entire exercise is to defend Sarah Palin. The ship's taking on water mightily there, Cap'n. But Im' sure you can salvage it. Maybe you can get a Recount 2008 Election Fund started.
Not to defend the Palinator, but winning an election doesn't mean you won the debates. Al Gore clearly won every debate of the 2000 election.
Well, I guess it could be argued he also won in 2000, but still.
The sport of ranking who "won" a debate is cute and all that. If you're on the high school debate team. But I'm damn sure the point is to win the election. Winning the debate but not the election is taking your sister to the prom.
To "win" a debate, you basically have to convince people you did better than they expected you to do. So, in her case, she had to avoid falling off the stage onto her actual face. Overcoming expectations did not prove she was competent for the job. It failed utterly to move people out of undecided into the McCain-Palin camp.
You elected yourself the Defender of Madame Failboat, you farkwit.
You're busily citing right-wing loon blogs as a source for attacking Joe Biden over who "won" a debate. Who won? Are you tryingfor a recount of the damn election? That's how you know who won.
Otherwise, your entire exercise is to defend Sarah Palin. The ship's taking on water mightily there, Cap'n. But Im' sure you can salvage it. Maybe you can get a Recount 2008 Election Fund started.
Not to defend the Palinator, but winning an election doesn't mean you won the debates. Al Gore clearly won every debate of the 2000 election.
Well, I guess it could be argued he also won in 2000, but still.
The sport of ranking who "won" a debate is cute and all that. If you're on the high school debate team. But I'm damn sure the point is to win the election. Winning the debate but not the election is taking your sister to the prom.
To "win" a debate, you basically have to convince people you did better than they expected you to do. So, in her case, she had to avoid falling off the stage onto her actual face. Overcoming expectations did not prove she was competent for the job. It failed utterly to move people out of undecided into the McCain-Palin camp.
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 03:04:38 AM |
shower_in_my_socks: FishingWithFredo:
Mr. Fredo -- I'm going to give you the same challenge I give every Palin defender.
The only thing I've "defended Palin" from is the idea that she's some slobbering idiot who can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
Palin was inexperienced in many areas, because they simply don't come up for a governor of Alaska all that often.
What she seems to be showing today, however, is that she wants to keep aspiring for national office, yet not be bothered with doing the work it takes to govern her state as she promised to do, or to learn the things she needs to to be a sharper political candidate on the national scale.
So fark her!
Is my position really that difficult to understand?
1. Liberal assholes destroying people and their families for political purposes can generally die in a fire.
2. Sarah Palin clearly was, and is, not ready for prime time.
3. Sarah Palin is not a stupid individual, as evidenced by the success she's already had in her life.
4. See 2 again.
5. Sarah Palin could have disappeared post-election, went up to Alaska, put her nose to the grindstone, kept a low profile, did the people's business well, got Republican advisors to come up and help her on her shortcomings as a national candidate.
6. Sarah Palin didn't do that.
7. Now Sarah Palin's quit on her constituents. There's either a criminal matter or a scandal that's about to drop, or she just wants all the reward without doing the hard work.
8. In any of the scenarios from #7, Palin is toast. Forever.
Mr. Fredo -- I'm going to give you the same challenge I give every Palin defender.
The only thing I've "defended Palin" from is the idea that she's some slobbering idiot who can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
Palin was inexperienced in many areas, because they simply don't come up for a governor of Alaska all that often.
What she seems to be showing today, however, is that she wants to keep aspiring for national office, yet not be bothered with doing the work it takes to govern her state as she promised to do, or to learn the things she needs to to be a sharper political candidate on the national scale.
So fark her!
Is my position really that difficult to understand?
1. Liberal assholes destroying people and their families for political purposes can generally die in a fire.
2. Sarah Palin clearly was, and is, not ready for prime time.
3. Sarah Palin is not a stupid individual, as evidenced by the success she's already had in her life.
4. See 2 again.
5. Sarah Palin could have disappeared post-election, went up to Alaska, put her nose to the grindstone, kept a low profile, did the people's business well, got Republican advisors to come up and help her on her shortcomings as a national candidate.
6. Sarah Palin didn't do that.
7. Now Sarah Palin's quit on her constituents. There's either a criminal matter or a scandal that's about to drop, or she just wants all the reward without doing the hard work.
8. In any of the scenarios from #7, Palin is toast. Forever.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 03:05:14 AM |
technicolor-misfit:
Dude, how often have you ever seen a politician so farking stupid they don't even have to caricatured, but can simply be quoted directly?
Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.
-President George W. Bush
Dude, how often have you ever seen a politician so farking stupid they don't even have to caricatured, but can simply be quoted directly?
Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.
-President George W. Bush
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 03:05:20 AM |
brainiac-dumdum: Jakevol2: Why do I get the feeling like I am Brer Fox getting trapped in the tar baby?
you made me google "tar baby"
yer gonna do some ruing as well
I'm definitely ruing this dialogue
you made me google "tar baby"
yer gonna do some ruing as well
I'm definitely ruing this dialogue
| rnld | 2009-07-04 03:07:08 AM |
If there is something coming in scandal land or not, what happened today with 18 months left as Governor was VERY unusual, to say the least.
BTW, what is so tough about the question what newspapers do you read? She was the Governor of Alaska. If you answer "all of them" you set yourself up for a follow up.
BTW, what is so tough about the question what newspapers do you read? She was the Governor of Alaska. If you answer "all of them" you set yourself up for a follow up.
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 03:07:21 AM |
FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
| Dr.Zom | 2009-07-04 03:08:10 AM |
Some fine wharrgarrbl from Free Republic:
Frankly I think Sarah Palin made a really smart move.
I saw this post and can't really take credit for it...but it expresses my thoughts exactly...
Since 15 minutes after her acceptance of the VP candidate slot the Obama campaign went into a paranoic frenzy because she was smarter, more charismatic, more successful, and her constituents loved her...whereas Obama is a dullard, not very smart, limited to parroted teleprompter speeches and statements and hasn't so much as run a popsicle stand...and he started driving a manure truck down the highway trying to run Sarah Palin into the ground...
The election was lost...
And the manure truck just kept driving down the highway at her...even ran off the roads of the national scene onto the Alaska scene and kept up the frenzy of paranoic smears and law suites, trumped up ethics BS, et al...
If a manure truck is driving at you full speed ahead constantly, are you going to stand there and let it run you over? That would be kind of a dumb move....
The smart thing to do is step aside...let the manure truck keep speeding down the highway until Obama and his communist ideology crashes into an oak tree...then come back and hit him HARD from the flanks...meanwhile, who's he going to aim is his manure truck at now? He's null and void!
Smoove move, Sarah...you go!
What are the CBS and ACORN operatives running their comment boards going to amuse themselves with now as they make their $7.68 an hour to post under several different nic names smear campaigns against Palin if she's not in office?
Frankly I think Sarah Palin made a really smart move.
I saw this post and can't really take credit for it...but it expresses my thoughts exactly...
Since 15 minutes after her acceptance of the VP candidate slot the Obama campaign went into a paranoic frenzy because she was smarter, more charismatic, more successful, and her constituents loved her...whereas Obama is a dullard, not very smart, limited to parroted teleprompter speeches and statements and hasn't so much as run a popsicle stand...and he started driving a manure truck down the highway trying to run Sarah Palin into the ground...
The election was lost...
And the manure truck just kept driving down the highway at her...even ran off the roads of the national scene onto the Alaska scene and kept up the frenzy of paranoic smears and law suites, trumped up ethics BS, et al...
If a manure truck is driving at you full speed ahead constantly, are you going to stand there and let it run you over? That would be kind of a dumb move....
The smart thing to do is step aside...let the manure truck keep speeding down the highway until Obama and his communist ideology crashes into an oak tree...then come back and hit him HARD from the flanks...meanwhile, who's he going to aim is his manure truck at now? He's null and void!
Smoove move, Sarah...you go!
What are the CBS and ACORN operatives running their comment boards going to amuse themselves with now as they make their $7.68 an hour to post under several different nic names smear campaigns against Palin if she's not in office?
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 03:08:15 AM |
shower_in_my_socks:
So, for the Fark.com record, you don't think there's any connection between the June 30th report date and Palin resigning just 3 days later?
I'm willing to admit, for now, that it's all just a giant coincidence.
Complete coincidence. The story about SBS, though, seems very plausible.
Although it would make me sad. I liked SBS a lot more than Palin... I'm thinking SBS might have gone dirty because of the competition. Nobody really expected them to survive after Home Depot and Eagle/Lowes moved into Anchorage in the 90s. That sports complex contract probably helped them stay afloat.
So, for the Fark.com record, you don't think there's any connection between the June 30th report date and Palin resigning just 3 days later?
I'm willing to admit, for now, that it's all just a giant coincidence.
Complete coincidence. The story about SBS, though, seems very plausible.
Although it would make me sad. I liked SBS a lot more than Palin... I'm thinking SBS might have gone dirty because of the competition. Nobody really expected them to survive after Home Depot and Eagle/Lowes moved into Anchorage in the 90s. That sports complex contract probably helped them stay afloat.
| Crown_of_Shoes | 2009-07-04 03:08:48 AM |
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 03:09:05 AM |
Joliet_Jake: Not to defend the Palinator, but winning an election doesn't mean you won the debates. Al Gore clearly won every debate of the 2000 election.
Well, I guess it could be argued he also won in 2000, but still.
The only way you can possibly gauge who won an individual debate is on the polling that is conducted asking people who they think won.
The CNN poll gave the win to Biden by 15%. A CBS News poll gave it to him by 25%.
So if the idiot above claiming that Palin won has a better way of gauging it than the post-debate polls, let's hear it. Otherwise, he should probably STFU.
Well, I guess it could be argued he also won in 2000, but still.
The only way you can possibly gauge who won an individual debate is on the polling that is conducted asking people who they think won.
The CNN poll gave the win to Biden by 15%. A CBS News poll gave it to him by 25%.
So if the idiot above claiming that Palin won has a better way of gauging it than the post-debate polls, let's hear it. Otherwise, he should probably STFU.
| palexc | 2009-07-04 03:09:14 AM |
shiat is definitely going to go down.
When McGreevey came out of the closet and quit, it was because he was about to get his ass nailed (no pun intended) for using state resources to handle is indescretions, and giving a state job to his lover, who was in no way qualified. Coming out of the closet was the non-story for him.
When McGreevey came out of the closet and quit, it was because he was about to get his ass nailed (no pun intended) for using state resources to handle is indescretions, and giving a state job to his lover, who was in no way qualified. Coming out of the closet was the non-story for him.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 03:09:41 AM |
Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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| FuturePastNow
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2009-07-04 03:09:55 AM |
cchris_39: Her best strategy is to get to the lower 48, shake hands, kiss babies, and be on TV ALOT.
No way. Being "on TV ALOT" is what destroyed her during the presidential election. The more she has to speak to cameras and answer even simple questions, the worse she looks.
No way. Being "on TV ALOT" is what destroyed her during the presidential election. The more she has to speak to cameras and answer even simple questions, the worse she looks.
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 03:10:56 AM |
Joliet_Jake: Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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he probably never noticed anything like that.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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he probably never noticed anything like that.
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 03:11:12 AM |
Sarah Palin is not a stupid individual, as evidenced by the success she's already had in her life.
Yes. Stupid people are never successful.
Yes. Stupid people are never successful.
| wejash
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2009-07-04 03:12:00 AM |
FishingWithFredo:
I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
This is really hilarious. Since conservatives have organized personal attacks on Democrats for decades. But the watermelons on the White House lawn, Kenyan seekrit muslim, and attacks on Michelle Obama, as well as the constant personal attacks on Hillary Clinton, those are just liberal memes too...
You have got to love someone who thinks LIBERALS cornered the market on personal attacks. Especially when conservatives routinely resort to calling their opponents traitors. Actual traitors to the country. Occasionally being so generous as to refer to us supporting terrorists and belonging in inernment camps.
Take up arms with Malkin, Coutler, Hannity, Rove et al, you get burned, Sparky.
I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
This is really hilarious. Since conservatives have organized personal attacks on Democrats for decades. But the watermelons on the White House lawn, Kenyan seekrit muslim, and attacks on Michelle Obama, as well as the constant personal attacks on Hillary Clinton, those are just liberal memes too...
You have got to love someone who thinks LIBERALS cornered the market on personal attacks. Especially when conservatives routinely resort to calling their opponents traitors. Actual traitors to the country. Occasionally being so generous as to refer to us supporting terrorists and belonging in inernment camps.
Take up arms with Malkin, Coutler, Hannity, Rove et al, you get burned, Sparky.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 03:12:50 AM |
Crown_of_Shoes: I have to disagree with your assesment. The Mooninites are the Crowing Achievement of Awesome. If anything I would plug Master Shake at top, then Meatwad, then Dr. Weird and finally Sir Loin.
| kasmel | 2009-07-04 03:12:57 AM |
Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
Well...you have to admit...between Clinton and Obama the Right wing attack machine has been on the fritz for a while. Though they did get it running for a bit just for Kerry. So it's hit and miss at best.
/though not for lack of trying I'd say
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
Well...you have to admit...between Clinton and Obama the Right wing attack machine has been on the fritz for a while. Though they did get it running for a bit just for Kerry. So it's hit and miss at best.
/though not for lack of trying I'd say
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 03:13:27 AM |
Mordant: Joliet_Jake: Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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he probably never noticed anything like that.
Nor mustard, socialism, elitist, date night, appeaser, "He's an arab", secret muslin...
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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he probably never noticed anything like that.
Nor mustard, socialism, elitist, date night, appeaser, "He's an arab", secret muslin...
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 03:13:52 AM |
| rohar
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2009-07-04 03:14:06 AM |
FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
Holy hell, what do you think of a conservative like me attacking her?
/You see, that was a fairly complete sentence
//barely ever see her do that
///didn't have to leave my job today because my skeletons are commin to get me
Holy hell, what do you think of a conservative like me attacking her?
/You see, that was a fairly complete sentence
//barely ever see her do that
///didn't have to leave my job today because my skeletons are commin to get me
| Hobodeluxe
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2009-07-04 03:14:30 AM |
you libs won't have Sarah Palin to kick around any more.
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 03:14:36 AM |
they get so used to projecting themselves as victims that they actually start to believe it.
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-04 03:14:38 AM |
Dr.Zom: Some fine wharrgarrbl from Free Republic:
Communist Manure Truck would be a pretty good name for a band.
Communist Manure Truck would be a pretty good name for a band.
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 03:14:51 AM |
FishingWithFredo:
The only thing I've "defended Palin" from is the idea that she's some slobbering idiot who can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
Unless I'm confusing you now with someone else, didn't you say that the Couric and Gibson interviews were hit-pieces?
You're admitting that she wasn't ready for primetime and then claiming that if she looked like an idiot in an interview, then those interviewers must have been after her. My immediate response whenever someone makes that claim is to give me any quote from Palin, made at any time, that makes her look better than she looked in those two interviews. And nobody can ever do it.
I watched both interviews multiple times and they were VERY kind to her -- much kinder than O'Reilly was when he interviewed Obama, for example (although to O'Reilly's credit, he was at least polite).
The only thing I've "defended Palin" from is the idea that she's some slobbering idiot who can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
Unless I'm confusing you now with someone else, didn't you say that the Couric and Gibson interviews were hit-pieces?
You're admitting that she wasn't ready for primetime and then claiming that if she looked like an idiot in an interview, then those interviewers must have been after her. My immediate response whenever someone makes that claim is to give me any quote from Palin, made at any time, that makes her look better than she looked in those two interviews. And nobody can ever do it.
I watched both interviews multiple times and they were VERY kind to her -- much kinder than O'Reilly was when he interviewed Obama, for example (although to O'Reilly's credit, he was at least polite).
| whizbang
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2009-07-04 03:15:18 AM |
SpyVsSpy: Sarah Palin is not a stupid individual, as evidenced by the success she's already had in her life.
Yes. Stupid people are never successful.
Yes. Stupid people are never successful.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 03:15:20 AM |
| rohar
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2009-07-04 03:16:59 AM |
Joliet_Jake: Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 03:19:17 AM |
Yeah the left is just unfairly attacking poor Palin.
Like Remember when those two armed guys plan to attack her?
Oh no that was Obama.
Remember when they said she "pals around with terrorists".
Oh yeah that was Obama too.
Remember when they said she was a "Secret Muslim"?
Oh yeah, that was Obama too.
Remember when they spent thousands of dollars to put up billboards saying that Sarah Palin was not an actual American citizen?
Oh wait that was Obama too.
SO STFU!!!
Like Remember when those two armed guys plan to attack her?
Oh no that was Obama.
Remember when they said she "pals around with terrorists".
Oh yeah that was Obama too.
Remember when they said she was a "Secret Muslim"?
Oh yeah, that was Obama too.
Remember when they spent thousands of dollars to put up billboards saying that Sarah Palin was not an actual American citizen?
Oh wait that was Obama too.
SO STFU!!!
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 03:19:28 AM |
rohar: Joliet_Jake: Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
What was I defending, now?
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
What was I defending, now?
| rnld | 2009-07-04 03:20:41 AM |
SpyVsSpy: Sarah Palin is not a stupid individual, as evidenced by the success she's already had in her life.
Yes. Stupid people are never successful.
She was mayor of a town with 5.5K people when she was elected.
She is Governor of a state with less than 700K people. She is resigning.
Yes. Stupid people are never successful.
She was mayor of a town with 5.5K people when she was elected.
She is Governor of a state with less than 700K people. She is resigning.
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 03:21:55 AM |
Corvus: Yeah the left is just unfairly attacking poor Palin.
Like Remember when those two armed guys plan to attack her?
Oh no that was Obama.
Remember when they said she "pals around with terrorists".
Oh yeah that was Obama too.
Remember when they said she was a "Secret Muslim"?
Oh yeah, that was Obama too.
Remember when they spent thousands of dollars to put up billboards saying that Sarah Palin was not an actual American citizen?
Oh wait that was Obama too.
SO STFU!!!
OH I forgot:
Remember when they said her and her spouse hated white people?
Oh yeah that was Obama too.
I think Palin has a bit to go before she can blame pretend she is treated poorly in comparison.
Like Remember when those two armed guys plan to attack her?
Oh no that was Obama.
Remember when they said she "pals around with terrorists".
Oh yeah that was Obama too.
Remember when they said she was a "Secret Muslim"?
Oh yeah, that was Obama too.
Remember when they spent thousands of dollars to put up billboards saying that Sarah Palin was not an actual American citizen?
Oh wait that was Obama too.
SO STFU!!!
OH I forgot:
Remember when they said her and her spouse hated white people?
Oh yeah that was Obama too.
I think Palin has a bit to go before she can blame pretend she is treated poorly in comparison.
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 03:22:16 AM |
Mordant: they get so used to projecting themselves as victims that they actually start to believe it.
The last decade or so has been a constant cycle of the GOP manufacturing shiny new lies, then eventually buying into their own lie. It's like watching an Ouroboros eat itself, except the Ouroboros doesn't take everything else with it in the process.
The last decade or so has been a constant cycle of the GOP manufacturing shiny new lies, then eventually buying into their own lie. It's like watching an Ouroboros eat itself, except the Ouroboros doesn't take everything else with it in the process.
| AdamK | 2009-07-04 03:22:43 AM |
wait...
no yeah
now masturbating
no yeah
now masturbating
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 03:23:35 AM |
You realize I was responding sarcastically to the Fredo guy, right?
| kasmel | 2009-07-04 03:23:38 AM |
Occam's Chainsaw: Mordant: they get so used to projecting themselves as victims that they actually start to believe it.
The last decade or so has been a constant cycle of the GOP manufacturing shiny new lies, then eventually buying into their own lie. It's like watching an Ouroboros eat itself, except the Ouroboros doesn't take everything else with it in the process.
it's eating time man!
The last decade or so has been a constant cycle of the GOP manufacturing shiny new lies, then eventually buying into their own lie. It's like watching an Ouroboros eat itself, except the Ouroboros doesn't take everything else with it in the process.
it's eating time man!
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 03:23:51 AM |
SpyVsSpy: Sarah Palin is not a stupid individual, as evidenced by the success she's already had in her life.
Who said that?
Who said that?
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 03:25:08 AM |
If Saraha Palin would of just been a governor of Alaska and not got involved in national affairs after the election, people would have left her alone.
If you going to go and be an ass on the national stage, then nationally people are going to call you an ass.
If you going to go and be an ass on the national stage, then nationally people are going to call you an ass.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 03:25:12 AM |
rnld: SpyVsSpy: Sarah Palin is not a stupid individual, as evidenced by the success she's already had in her life.
Yes. Stupid people are never successful.
She was mayor of a town with 5.5K people when she was elected.
She is Governor of a state with less than 700K people. She is resigning.
*AND* she screwed up both jobs. That sports complex cost Wasilla a ton of money out of incompetence in acquiring the land rights. They got sued over it... it was pretty screwed up.
Then as governor, she did nothing. The legislature set the agenda, not her. She went against the will of Alaskans by committing to a gas pipeline that wasn't all-Alaskan.
She didn't bring one idea or solution to the table the entire time she was in office. She just stayed in the spotlight, biatched, and acted like she was powerful.
Yes. Stupid people are never successful.
She was mayor of a town with 5.5K people when she was elected.
She is Governor of a state with less than 700K people. She is resigning.
*AND* she screwed up both jobs. That sports complex cost Wasilla a ton of money out of incompetence in acquiring the land rights. They got sued over it... it was pretty screwed up.
Then as governor, she did nothing. The legislature set the agenda, not her. She went against the will of Alaskans by committing to a gas pipeline that wasn't all-Alaskan.
She didn't bring one idea or solution to the table the entire time she was in office. She just stayed in the spotlight, biatched, and acted like she was powerful.
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 03:25:27 AM |
Sigh...
Guys, that's not my quote.
Guys, that's not my quote.
| technicolor-misfit | 2009-07-04 03:25:44 AM |
FishingWithFredo - shower_in_my_socks: FishingWithFredo:
Mr. Fredo -- I'm going to give you the same challenge I give every Palin defender.
The only thing I've "defended Palin" from is the idea that she's some slobbering idiot who can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
Palin was inexperienced in many areas, because they simply don't come up for a governor of Alaska all that often.
Dude... she couldn't come up with the name of a single news magazine or newspaper! She's a farking idiot.
If you aspire to be farking President, you should be curious about world affairs whether they come up at your job or not. President of the United States of America is not an entry-level position.
And who else, besides Bush, has the "liberal attack machine" treated like a "slobbering idiot?" Not Cheney, not Rumsfeld, not Karl Rove, not Rush Limbaugh, not Condi Rice, not Alberto Gonzalez... There are plenty of Republicans that liberals don't like who do not get treated like idiots... You know why? They're not idiots.
They're crass and crooked and oftentimes downright evil, but they're smart and they know their shiat. None of the would ever fall apart because someone asked them what magazines they read. None of them would collapse when asked to discuss the Bush doctrine. None of them would engage verbal diarrhea mode because they couldn't think of a single farking disagreeable Supreme Court decision besides Roe v. Wade... I mean shiat, man... she couldn't even come up with Plessy v. Ferguson. (though maybe she doesn't disagree with that one)
She gets called an idiot because she's a farking idiot. She's like one of the strippers/models Howard Stern used to have trivia contests with.
Someone in the executive office should not exhibit all the cultural literacy of some idiot tourist Jay Leno cornered on a sidewalk.
Mr. Fredo -- I'm going to give you the same challenge I give every Palin defender.
The only thing I've "defended Palin" from is the idea that she's some slobbering idiot who can't walk and chew gum at the same time.
I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
Palin was inexperienced in many areas, because they simply don't come up for a governor of Alaska all that often.
Dude... she couldn't come up with the name of a single news magazine or newspaper! She's a farking idiot.
If you aspire to be farking President, you should be curious about world affairs whether they come up at your job or not. President of the United States of America is not an entry-level position.
And who else, besides Bush, has the "liberal attack machine" treated like a "slobbering idiot?" Not Cheney, not Rumsfeld, not Karl Rove, not Rush Limbaugh, not Condi Rice, not Alberto Gonzalez... There are plenty of Republicans that liberals don't like who do not get treated like idiots... You know why? They're not idiots.
They're crass and crooked and oftentimes downright evil, but they're smart and they know their shiat. None of the would ever fall apart because someone asked them what magazines they read. None of them would collapse when asked to discuss the Bush doctrine. None of them would engage verbal diarrhea mode because they couldn't think of a single farking disagreeable Supreme Court decision besides Roe v. Wade... I mean shiat, man... she couldn't even come up with Plessy v. Ferguson. (though maybe she doesn't disagree with that one)
She gets called an idiot because she's a farking idiot. She's like one of the strippers/models Howard Stern used to have trivia contests with.
Someone in the executive office should not exhibit all the cultural literacy of some idiot tourist Jay Leno cornered on a sidewalk.
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| wejash
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2009-07-04 03:26:24 AM |
Jakevol2: lstywnch: wejash: belonging in inernment camps.
I miss skookum
A moment of silence. please
All we're left with are sweet memories.
I miss skookum
A moment of silence. please
All we're left with are sweet memories.
| rohar
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2009-07-04 03:27:20 AM |
Joliet_Jake: rohar: Joliet_Jake: Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
What was I defending, now?
So you were attacking something? Whatever your intent, after that question I'm pretty sure you missed your mark. Feel free to come back and explain.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
What was I defending, now?
So you were attacking something? Whatever your intent, after that question I'm pretty sure you missed your mark. Feel free to come back and explain.
| Tickle Mittens | 2009-07-04 03:28:15 AM |
Jakevol2: Crown_of_Shoes: I have to disagree with your assesment. The Mooninites are the Crowing Achievement of Awesome. If anything I would plug Master Shake at top, then Meatwad, then Dr. Weird and finally Sir Loin.
No way, Palin is the one of the swarm of flying shiat sandwiches.
No way, Palin is the one of the swarm of flying shiat sandwiches.
| Jacques Lestrap | 2009-07-04 03:28:20 AM |
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 03:29:29 AM |
Tickle Mittens: Jakevol2: Crown_of_Shoes: I have to disagree with your assesment. The Mooninites are the Crowing Achievement of Awesome. If anything I would plug Master Shake at top, then Meatwad, then Dr. Weird and finally Sir Loin.
No way, Palin is the one of the swarm of flying shiat sandwiches.
oh man! I forgot about that.
No way, Palin is the one of the swarm of flying shiat sandwiches.
oh man! I forgot about that.
| rnld | 2009-07-04 03:29:44 AM |
No matter how people try to spin this - the fact remains.
Out of the blue, with 18 months left as Governor, Palin just walked out to the podium and resigned with a rambling, hopped up speech that had a crazy talk slant to it.
That is a huge bowl of fishy right there.
Out of the blue, with 18 months left as Governor, Palin just walked out to the podium and resigned with a rambling, hopped up speech that had a crazy talk slant to it.
That is a huge bowl of fishy right there.
| crab66 | 2009-07-04 03:30:45 AM |
Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: ne2d: Check out the big blog on Brad!
/got nuthin
It's "Brett" not "Brad".
/always thought it was Brad too
/LOL'd anyhow
It's both actually.
In the opening scene, in the apartment, Jules asks Brett why they call a quarter-pounder with cheese a royale with cheese in France. When Brett answers correctly, Jules exclaims, "Look at the big brains on Brad!" though he has clearly referred to Brett by his proper name before.
/got nuthin
It's "Brett" not "Brad".
/always thought it was Brad too
/LOL'd anyhow
It's both actually.
In the opening scene, in the apartment, Jules asks Brett why they call a quarter-pounder with cheese a royale with cheese in France. When Brett answers correctly, Jules exclaims, "Look at the big brains on Brad!" though he has clearly referred to Brett by his proper name before.
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 03:31:49 AM |
rohar: Joliet_Jake: rohar: Joliet_Jake: Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
What was I defending, now?
So you were attacking something? Whatever your intent, after that question I'm pretty sure you missed your mark. Feel free to come back and explain.
his presentation wasn't very stylish, but do you recognize any of the words in caps ? remember where we heard them ?
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
What was I defending, now?
So you were attacking something? Whatever your intent, after that question I'm pretty sure you missed your mark. Feel free to come back and explain.
his presentation wasn't very stylish, but do you recognize any of the words in caps ? remember where we heard them ?
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 03:32:57 AM |
technicolor-misfit:
Dude... she couldn't come up with the name of a single news magazine or newspaper! She's a farking idiot.
This one bugs me, too.
Sarah was being an idiot, but not in the way you say.
Sarah *could* have named newspapers and magazines, I'm sure. Instead, she was playing the Alaskan angle too tough, like everyone in America was a tourist getting off the boat in Juneau.
Remember she followed it up by saying something like, "We get them all up here...." She was trying to make it look like Couric was belittling Alaska, implying we don't get newspapers there.
We go through a lot of that kind of stuff with tourists. But Couric wasn't a tourist, and neither were the American people. She got defensive for no reason.
Same with the "You can see Russia from Alaska" schpiel. It's a tourist thing. She kept acting like people had just gotten off the plane, and she had to explain these little Alaska nuances to everyone. Thing is, by doing so, she wasn't answering the questions.
She did that a lot. Idiot still, but different kind of idiot.
Dude... she couldn't come up with the name of a single news magazine or newspaper! She's a farking idiot.
This one bugs me, too.
Sarah was being an idiot, but not in the way you say.
Sarah *could* have named newspapers and magazines, I'm sure. Instead, she was playing the Alaskan angle too tough, like everyone in America was a tourist getting off the boat in Juneau.
Remember she followed it up by saying something like, "We get them all up here...." She was trying to make it look like Couric was belittling Alaska, implying we don't get newspapers there.
We go through a lot of that kind of stuff with tourists. But Couric wasn't a tourist, and neither were the American people. She got defensive for no reason.
Same with the "You can see Russia from Alaska" schpiel. It's a tourist thing. She kept acting like people had just gotten off the plane, and she had to explain these little Alaska nuances to everyone. Thing is, by doing so, she wasn't answering the questions.
She did that a lot. Idiot still, but different kind of idiot.
| rohar
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2009-07-04 03:34:01 AM |
Mordant: rohar: Joliet_Jake: rohar: Joliet_Jake: Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
What was I defending, now?
So you were attacking something? Whatever your intent, after that question I'm pretty sure you missed your mark. Feel free to come back and explain.
his presentation wasn't very stylish, but do you recognize any of the words in caps ? remember where we heard them ?
Shiat, I can't believe I needed a hint on that. I'm a pathetic excuse for a farker. That was huge and I just watched it sail by.
/the power better come back up in the noc
//it's been 20 hours and I'm running on fumes
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Yup, that's about the level of intelligent oration we got from Palin as well. You realize you are defining what you are trying to defend right?
What was I defending, now?
So you were attacking something? Whatever your intent, after that question I'm pretty sure you missed your mark. Feel free to come back and explain.
his presentation wasn't very stylish, but do you recognize any of the words in caps ? remember where we heard them ?
Shiat, I can't believe I needed a hint on that. I'm a pathetic excuse for a farker. That was huge and I just watched it sail by.
/the power better come back up in the noc
//it's been 20 hours and I'm running on fumes
| Bender The Offender | 2009-07-04 03:36:58 AM |
FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
Really? You hypocritical farktard. Rush, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Malkin, etc... When have you spoken out against them? How much misery has the Rovian spin machine that is Newscorp visited on so called "liberals"? You have these insensate motherfarkers calling their own fellow countrymen traitors, advocating violence, cheering on murderers and you have the motherfarking audacity to try and claim a moral highground while wallowing in the fetid human excrement of Fox? You have just jammed a sword into the scrotum of your credibility.
Really? You hypocritical farktard. Rush, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Malkin, etc... When have you spoken out against them? How much misery has the Rovian spin machine that is Newscorp visited on so called "liberals"? You have these insensate motherfarkers calling their own fellow countrymen traitors, advocating violence, cheering on murderers and you have the motherfarking audacity to try and claim a moral highground while wallowing in the fetid human excrement of Fox? You have just jammed a sword into the scrotum of your credibility.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 03:37:36 AM |
rohar:
Shiat, I can't believe I needed a hint on that. I'm a pathetic excuse for a farker. That was huge and I just watched it sail by.
/the power better come back up in the noc
//it's been 20 hours and I'm running on fumes
It wasn't exactly the most subtle post I've ever made.
Shiat, I can't believe I needed a hint on that. I'm a pathetic excuse for a farker. That was huge and I just watched it sail by.
/the power better come back up in the noc
//it's been 20 hours and I'm running on fumes
It wasn't exactly the most subtle post I've ever made.
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 03:37:41 AM |
Joliet_Jake: Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
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Um, if Palin goes to a racist pastor, or gets her political start in a domestic terrorist's home, or has shady deals with corrupt Alaskans ... that would ALL be fair game.
If you want the equivalent of Palin put on Obama, first when he announced his presidential run Obama:
1. Should have been given an immediate quiz on his feelings on Uzbekistan.
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
Then you'd be getting warm.
/Palin is toast
//Don't like Palin
///The media was unfair to her, her family, McCain and Hillary Clinton, because they had an agenda.
////Mission Accomplished!
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Um, if Palin goes to a racist pastor, or gets her political start in a domestic terrorist's home, or has shady deals with corrupt Alaskans ... that would ALL be fair game.
If you want the equivalent of Palin put on Obama, first when he announced his presidential run Obama:
1. Should have been given an immediate quiz on his feelings on Uzbekistan.
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
Then you'd be getting warm.
/Palin is toast
//Don't like Palin
///The media was unfair to her, her family, McCain and Hillary Clinton, because they had an agenda.
////Mission Accomplished!
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 03:38:10 AM |
cchris_39: Sabyen91: You think she resigned for nothing? I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
Yeah yeah.......and you are the same guy who (if she didn't resign) would be spouting off about how meaningless it was to get two more years governing a remote state of 700,000.
[1 Sorry that she cut off that argument for you] and [2 put herself squarely in the middle of the debate], [3 but not everybody on our side builds their career by voting "present" all the time.]
[1] So, this is some dazzling trick to pull away a (rather weak) argument from the Democratics? In her resignation words (can't call it a 'speech'; language has limits) she refers twice to getting out to avoid a 'waste of taxpayer time and resources'. It seems to be the only semistable reason given. Do you think this refers to anything other than investigation(s) against her?
[2] She's incapable of doing otherwise. All Sarah, all the time. This is not the good thing you appear to believe it to be.
[3] Sarah Palin's political career has left no back left unstabbed. Inevitably and hilariously, she has now ended up stabbing herself and still refuses to accept she is the one doing it.
Yeah yeah.......and you are the same guy who (if she didn't resign) would be spouting off about how meaningless it was to get two more years governing a remote state of 700,000.
[1 Sorry that she cut off that argument for you] and [2 put herself squarely in the middle of the debate], [3 but not everybody on our side builds their career by voting "present" all the time.]
[1] So, this is some dazzling trick to pull away a (rather weak) argument from the Democratics? In her resignation words (can't call it a 'speech'; language has limits) she refers twice to getting out to avoid a 'waste of taxpayer time and resources'. It seems to be the only semistable reason given. Do you think this refers to anything other than investigation(s) against her?
[2] She's incapable of doing otherwise. All Sarah, all the time. This is not the good thing you appear to believe it to be.
[3] Sarah Palin's political career has left no back left unstabbed. Inevitably and hilariously, she has now ended up stabbing herself and still refuses to accept she is the one doing it.
| dofus | 2009-07-04 03:38:33 AM |
Bender The Offender: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
Really? You hypocritical farktard. Rush, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Malkin, etc... When have you spoken out against them? How much misery has the Rovian spin machine that is Newscorp visited on so called "liberals"? You have these insensate motherfarkers calling their own fellow countrymen traitors, advocating violence, cheering on murderers and you have the motherfarking audacity to try and claim a moral highground while wallowing in the fetid human excrement of Fox? You have just jammed a sword into the scrotum of your credibility.
Not bad for 3:40 in the morning. Not bad at all...
Really? You hypocritical farktard. Rush, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Malkin, etc... When have you spoken out against them? How much misery has the Rovian spin machine that is Newscorp visited on so called "liberals"? You have these insensate motherfarkers calling their own fellow countrymen traitors, advocating violence, cheering on murderers and you have the motherfarking audacity to try and claim a moral highground while wallowing in the fetid human excrement of Fox? You have just jammed a sword into the scrotum of your credibility.
Not bad for 3:40 in the morning. Not bad at all...
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 03:39:06 AM |
Bender The Offender: You have just jammed a sword into the scrotum of your credibility.
best line all day
best line all day
| wejash
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2009-07-04 03:39:15 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: Same with the "You can see Russia from Alaska" schpiel. It's a tourist thing. She kept acting like people had just gotten off the plane, and she had to explain these little Alaska nuances to everyone. Thing is, by doing so, she wasn't answering the questions.
She did that a lot. Idiot still, but different kind of idiot.
That makes sense. She spends a lot of time sounding like the little guy who thinks everyone is cracking "small" jokes.
I didn't come close to seeing that since she's got the chance to live in one of the most beautiful wild places left in the world.
She did that a lot. Idiot still, but different kind of idiot.
That makes sense. She spends a lot of time sounding like the little guy who thinks everyone is cracking "small" jokes.
I didn't come close to seeing that since she's got the chance to live in one of the most beautiful wild places left in the world.
| Mordant
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2009-07-04 03:42:16 AM |
FishingWithFredo: 4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
um... were you in a coma at any point in the last year ?
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
um... were you in a coma at any point in the last year ?
| whizbang
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2009-07-04 03:42:40 AM |
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 03:43:03 AM |
wejash:
That makes sense. She spends a lot of time sounding like the little guy who thinks everyone is cracking "small" jokes.
Exactly. She was on the defensive in both the Couric and Gibson interviews, and it made her completely misinterpret questions and sound like an idiot.
By the way, she is a total dolt. I don't want to diminish that fact.
That makes sense. She spends a lot of time sounding like the little guy who thinks everyone is cracking "small" jokes.
Exactly. She was on the defensive in both the Couric and Gibson interviews, and it made her completely misinterpret questions and sound like an idiot.
By the way, she is a total dolt. I don't want to diminish that fact.
| Bonanza Jellybean | 2009-07-04 03:43:21 AM |
Mordant: Bender The Offender: You have just jammed a sword into the scrotum of your credibility.
best line all day
I would amend it to "you have just jabbed a knitting needle into the tender scrotum that is your credibility."
best line all day
I would amend it to "you have just jabbed a knitting needle into the tender scrotum that is your credibility."
| House of Tards
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2009-07-04 03:43:49 AM |
FishingWithFredo:
1. Liberal assholes destroying people and their families for political purposes can generally die in a fire.
Hey, anyone remember Michelle Malkin staking out Graeme Frost's house to see what kind of countertops they had? That was good times.
1. Liberal assholes destroying people and their families for political purposes can generally die in a fire.
Hey, anyone remember Michelle Malkin staking out Graeme Frost's house to see what kind of countertops they had? That was good times.
| skykid | 2009-07-04 03:43:52 AM |
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 03:45:23 AM |
1. Should have been given an immediate quiz on his feelings on Uzbekistan.
Which he probably could have answered without sounding defensive and whining and accusing "gotcha!" even if he didn't know the answer.
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
That one I never got.
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
If one gets pregnant out of wedlock we'll let you know.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
There were plenty of "he's too inexperienced" stories. Still are.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
If you can find endless footage of Obama answering a question with a sentence that never ends, goes off on bizarre tangents, and makes no sense whatsoever at the end--and he does this as often as she did-- we'll get back to you.
Dance all you want, when it came to being a political embarrassment, Palin was in a class all her own. She surpassed even Bush.
Which he probably could have answered without sounding defensive and whining and accusing "gotcha!" even if he didn't know the answer.
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
That one I never got.
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
If one gets pregnant out of wedlock we'll let you know.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
There were plenty of "he's too inexperienced" stories. Still are.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
If you can find endless footage of Obama answering a question with a sentence that never ends, goes off on bizarre tangents, and makes no sense whatsoever at the end--and he does this as often as she did-- we'll get back to you.
Dance all you want, when it came to being a political embarrassment, Palin was in a class all her own. She surpassed even Bush.
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 03:46:03 AM |
rnld: No matter how people try to spin this - the fact remains.
Out of the blue, with 18 months left as Governor, Palin just walked out to the podium and resigned with a rambling, hopped up speech that had a crazy talk slant to it.
That is a huge bowl of fishy right there.
I could not concur with you more.
I'm beginning to take Occam's Razor to this ... I think it may be as simple as Palin thinking she's "the hot commodity" post the 2008 veep run, and that anonymity being a governor in Alaska will kill that.
So she's got to get to the lower 48 and lose the shackles of having to do governing.
The timing of this on a news and political black hole of Friday July 3 is to suppress the worst part of the story: That she's quitting, breaking her promise to Alaskans.
She's gambling that three years from now, that part of the story won't matter to the cheering throngs she's gathering for her movement toward '12.
If this is really all this is, it is one of the worst political miscalculations I can ever remember in my lifetime.
She's now The Quitter. The ONE THING she had going for her bona fides was she was governor of an American state. She's bailing on that 2.5 years into her first term.
And she thinks Republicans and Conservatives are going to overlook these things?
She's done.
/Still want to see her naked.
Out of the blue, with 18 months left as Governor, Palin just walked out to the podium and resigned with a rambling, hopped up speech that had a crazy talk slant to it.
That is a huge bowl of fishy right there.
I could not concur with you more.
I'm beginning to take Occam's Razor to this ... I think it may be as simple as Palin thinking she's "the hot commodity" post the 2008 veep run, and that anonymity being a governor in Alaska will kill that.
So she's got to get to the lower 48 and lose the shackles of having to do governing.
The timing of this on a news and political black hole of Friday July 3 is to suppress the worst part of the story: That she's quitting, breaking her promise to Alaskans.
She's gambling that three years from now, that part of the story won't matter to the cheering throngs she's gathering for her movement toward '12.
If this is really all this is, it is one of the worst political miscalculations I can ever remember in my lifetime.
She's now The Quitter. The ONE THING she had going for her bona fides was she was governor of an American state. She's bailing on that 2.5 years into her first term.
And she thinks Republicans and Conservatives are going to overlook these things?
She's done.
/Still want to see her naked.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 03:46:10 AM |
FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
| Argh2 | 2009-07-04 03:46:30 AM |
I'm...just..so...Happy. *sniff*
/Seriously, I know so many contractors. The idea that they would get together and build a huge house for one of their "buds" in anything less than a decade is ludicrous. In the real world, Palin would be telling jokes about how she's still waiting for the bathroom to be tiled.
/Seriously, I know so many contractors. The idea that they would get together and build a huge house for one of their "buds" in anything less than a decade is ludicrous. In the real world, Palin would be telling jokes about how she's still waiting for the bathroom to be tiled.
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 03:48:28 AM |
FishingWithFredo: 2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
Ummm They ran stories that OBAMA IS NOT EVEN A CITZEN.
I think that is worse.
Obama showed HIS birth certificate, Palin did not show her kids birth certificate in question.
So yes it's still worse.
Ummm They ran stories that OBAMA IS NOT EVEN A CITZEN.
I think that is worse.
Obama showed HIS birth certificate, Palin did not show her kids birth certificate in question.
So yes it's still worse.
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 03:48:39 AM |
FishingWithFredo: I'm beginning to take Occam's Razor to this ...
I want nothing to do with this whatsoever.
Ohh... wait, you want that other guy. M'bad.
I want nothing to do with this whatsoever.
Ohh... wait, you want that other guy. M'bad.
| rnld | 2009-07-04 03:49:56 AM |
FishingWithFredo: ///The media was unfair to her, her family, McCain and Hillary Clinton, because they had an agenda.
When you say "media" you are leaving out the biggest part of the media.
Fox New Channel beats all the other cable news networks combined and they are on 24 hours a day.
Conservative radio is heard by tens of millions of people per day. Nothing tops their numbers.
"Fox" owns the Wall Street Journal, NY Post and the Fox broadcast network, currently the #1 network.
"Mainstream liberal media" is a myth - it's made up by conservatives.
When you say "media" you are leaving out the biggest part of the media.
Fox New Channel beats all the other cable news networks combined and they are on 24 hours a day.
Conservative radio is heard by tens of millions of people per day. Nothing tops their numbers.
"Fox" owns the Wall Street Journal, NY Post and the Fox broadcast network, currently the #1 network.
"Mainstream liberal media" is a myth - it's made up by conservatives.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 03:50:03 AM |
Occam's Chainsaw: FishingWithFredo: I'm beginning to take Occam's Razor to this ...
I want nothing to do with this whatsoever.
Ohh... wait, you want that other guy. M'bad.
I had to read Fredo's post twice because I did think he was refering to you. Go figure.
I want nothing to do with this whatsoever.
Ohh... wait, you want that other guy. M'bad.
I had to read Fredo's post twice because I did think he was refering to you. Go figure.
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 03:50:07 AM |
FishingWithFredo: 2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
Yeah, no one does something like that to Obama.
Yeah, no one does something like that to Obama.
| LordJiro | 2009-07-04 03:50:10 AM |
Occam's Chainsaw: Mordant: Joliet_Jake: Mordant: FishingWithFredo: I'm fairly well sick of the liberal attack machine doing that to people they don't like.
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO
he probably never noticed anything like that.
Nor mustard, socialism, elitist, date night, appeaser, "He's an arab", secret muslin...
Birth certificate, fist-jab, iPod...
f*ck you if you believe that's a one way street you little piece of crap.
BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO BILL AYERS REVEREND WRIGHT TONY REZKO
he probably never noticed anything like that.
Nor mustard, socialism, elitist, date night, appeaser, "He's an arab", secret muslin...
Birth certificate, fist-jab, iPod...
| skykid | 2009-07-04 03:50:38 AM |
rnld: FishingWithFredo: ///The media was unfair to her, her family, McCain and Hillary Clinton, because they had an agenda.
When you say "media" you are leaving out the biggest part of the media.
Fox New Channel beats all the other cable news networks combined and they are on 24 hours a day.
Conservative radio is heard by tens of millions of people per day. Nothing tops their numbers.
"Fox" owns the Wall Street Journal, NY Post and the Fox broadcast network, currently the #1 network.
"Mainstream liberal media" is a myth - it's made up by conservatives.
THIS. QFT.
When you say "media" you are leaving out the biggest part of the media.
Fox New Channel beats all the other cable news networks combined and they are on 24 hours a day.
Conservative radio is heard by tens of millions of people per day. Nothing tops their numbers.
"Fox" owns the Wall Street Journal, NY Post and the Fox broadcast network, currently the #1 network.
"Mainstream liberal media" is a myth - it's made up by conservatives.
THIS. QFT.
| Xerxes99 | 2009-07-04 03:50:52 AM |
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 03:50:58 AM |
Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 03:52:28 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
I am starting to think I would have a more coherent conversation with Jani and 400 The Cat.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
I am starting to think I would have a more coherent conversation with Jani and 400 The Cat.
| The Name | 2009-07-04 03:52:51 AM |
rnld: If there is something coming in scandal land or not, what happened today with 18 months left as Governor was VERY unusual, to say the least.
BTW, what is so tough about the question what newspapers do you read? She was the Governor of Alaska. If you answer "all of them" you set yourself up for a follow up.
Mine would have been, "Echt? Lesen Sie denn 'Der Spiegel'?"
BTW, what is so tough about the question what newspapers do you read? She was the Governor of Alaska. If you answer "all of them" you set yourself up for a follow up.
Mine would have been, "Echt? Lesen Sie denn 'Der Spiegel'?"
| GratuityIncluded | 2009-07-04 03:53:42 AM |
If you are a conservative, like myself, looking for any rationality about Palin ... you will not find it here in this thread. The uninformed (whether by no experience or by choice) don't understand what you and I like best in America and don't have the proclivity to fight about it.
/ uneducated foolishness, that's about what it is
/ uneducated foolishness, that's about what it is
| Giltric | 2009-07-04 03:53:53 AM |
Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 03:54:28 AM |
FishingWithFredo: 4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
O really?
Want to pay me a dollar for every "Obama not experienced to be president" article I can find?
O really?
Want to pay me a dollar for every "Obama not experienced to be president" article I can find?
| WhyteRaven74
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2009-07-04 03:55:07 AM |
FishingWithFredo: And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
If you're going to try to abstinence only sex ed, it helps if there isn't a member of your family that demonstrates it may not be such a good idea.
If you're going to try to abstinence only sex ed, it helps if there isn't a member of your family that demonstrates it may not be such a good idea.
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-04 03:55:36 AM |
| Xerxes99 | 2009-07-04 03:55:42 AM |
Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
/Perhaps not.. but maybe they will get knocked up by Alex Rodriguez
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
/Perhaps not.. but maybe they will get knocked up by Alex Rodriguez
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 03:55:44 AM |
Giltric: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
so nearly dying in a drunk driving accident is akin to having premarital sex from your point of view? I feel sorry for your hand.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
so nearly dying in a drunk driving accident is akin to having premarital sex from your point of view? I feel sorry for your hand.
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 03:56:02 AM |
LordJiro: Birth certificate, fist-jab, iPod...
Former druggie, militant / racist wife, inexperienced, empty suit, teleprompter, ACORN, arugula...
/We probably could actually do this all day.
Former druggie, militant / racist wife, inexperienced, empty suit, teleprompter, ACORN, arugula...
/We probably could actually do this all day.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 03:56:03 AM |
Giltric: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
Except the anti-drunk driving people don't tell you the only way to avoid it is to stop driving.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
Except the anti-drunk driving people don't tell you the only way to avoid it is to stop driving.
| kasmel | 2009-07-04 03:56:42 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
The daughter/fiance was human interest. They were cynically used as props by the campaign. I noticed the distinct lack of McCain's other daughter and yet there was no real looking into that was there?
Out of sight, out of mind. They could have said, 'she's pregnant, they're getting married, she needs to be left alone to work on school/prepare for being a mom, we ask that you respectfully leave them alone.'
Instead, they were given talk show gigs and put in front of as many cameras and microphones as possible because it kept them in the news.
Don't hate on the media folks for doing what they do. Hate the people feeding them.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
The daughter/fiance was human interest. They were cynically used as props by the campaign. I noticed the distinct lack of McCain's other daughter and yet there was no real looking into that was there?
Out of sight, out of mind. They could have said, 'she's pregnant, they're getting married, she needs to be left alone to work on school/prepare for being a mom, we ask that you respectfully leave them alone.'
Instead, they were given talk show gigs and put in front of as many cameras and microphones as possible because it kept them in the news.
Don't hate on the media folks for doing what they do. Hate the people feeding them.
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 03:56:44 AM |
Corvus: FishingWithFredo: 2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
Yeah, no one does something like that to Obama.
You might want to re-read the part about the mainstream media doing it in Palin's case. Multiple outlets, all day, every day.
Obama had nothing of the sort. Even on the stories that were difficult for him, the media fell all over themselves to make it as quick and painless as possible. Thus the Reverend Wright examination ended with "Obama's Speech on Race is the greatest speech since the Gettysburg Address!"
Rather than, "We're reporters. Let's prove Obama lied when he said he wasn't in the pews for some of Wright's Greatest Hits. Let's find footage of Obama nodding and clapping and Amen-ing along."
You know. That stuff that journalists sometimes do. Dig into a relevant story and take it farther.
Yeah, no one does something like that to Obama.
You might want to re-read the part about the mainstream media doing it in Palin's case. Multiple outlets, all day, every day.
Obama had nothing of the sort. Even on the stories that were difficult for him, the media fell all over themselves to make it as quick and painless as possible. Thus the Reverend Wright examination ended with "Obama's Speech on Race is the greatest speech since the Gettysburg Address!"
Rather than, "We're reporters. Let's prove Obama lied when he said he wasn't in the pews for some of Wright's Greatest Hits. Let's find footage of Obama nodding and clapping and Amen-ing along."
You know. That stuff that journalists sometimes do. Dig into a relevant story and take it farther.
| rnld | 2009-07-04 03:57:12 AM |
FishingWithFredo: So she's got to get to the lower 48 and lose the shackles of having to do governing.
GWB ran for President while Governor of Texas.
GWB ran for President while Governor of Texas.
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 03:57:26 AM |
If you are a conservative, like myself, looking for any rationality about Palin ... you will not find it here in this thread. The uninformed (whether by no experience or by choice) don't understand what you and I like best in America and don't have the proclivity to fight about it.
/ uneducated foolishness, that's about what it is
Smugly Accusatory but Conveniently Vague--that's the Republican way.
/ uneducated foolishness, that's about what it is
Smugly Accusatory but Conveniently Vague--that's the Republican way.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 03:57:30 AM |
GratuityIncluded: The uninformed (whether by no experience or by choice) don't understand what you and I like best in America and don't have the proclivity to fight about it.
/ uneducated foolishness, that's about what it is
(smirk)
Uneducated foolishness is what you like best in America?
/ uneducated foolishness, that's about what it is
(smirk)
Uneducated foolishness is what you like best in America?
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 03:58:20 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Corvus: FishingWithFredo: 2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
Yeah, no one does something like that to Obama.
You might want to re-read the part about the mainstream media doing it in Palin's case. Multiple outlets, all day, every day.
Obama had nothing of the sort. Even on the stories that were difficult for him, the media fell all over themselves to make it as quick and painless as possible. Thus the Reverend Wright examination ended with "Obama's Speech on Race is the greatest speech since the Gettysburg Address!"
Rather than, "We're reporters. Let's prove Obama lied when he said he wasn't in the pews for some of Wright's Greatest Hits. Let's find footage of Obama nodding and clapping and Amen-ing along."
You know. That stuff that journalists sometimes do. Dig into a relevant story and take it farther.
What mainstream news outlet covered the pregnancy controversy for more than one day?
Yeah, no one does something like that to Obama.
You might want to re-read the part about the mainstream media doing it in Palin's case. Multiple outlets, all day, every day.
Obama had nothing of the sort. Even on the stories that were difficult for him, the media fell all over themselves to make it as quick and painless as possible. Thus the Reverend Wright examination ended with "Obama's Speech on Race is the greatest speech since the Gettysburg Address!"
Rather than, "We're reporters. Let's prove Obama lied when he said he wasn't in the pews for some of Wright's Greatest Hits. Let's find footage of Obama nodding and clapping and Amen-ing along."
You know. That stuff that journalists sometimes do. Dig into a relevant story and take it farther.
What mainstream news outlet covered the pregnancy controversy for more than one day?
| Giltric | 2009-07-04 03:59:07 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
I can't think of any but I think thats because we're in a new age of politics. We jumped the shark somewhere in the last 10 years.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
I can't think of any but I think thats because we're in a new age of politics. We jumped the shark somewhere in the last 10 years.
| WhyteRaven74
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2009-07-04 03:59:52 AM |
GratuityIncluded: don't understand what you and I like best in America
You know what I like about America? That it's possible for a poor black kid from Little Jamaica in Queens to end up one of the most read historians of economics ever, and to end up a tenured professor at Stanford. Know what I really really like? That this same professor gives not a whit for what he's supposed to think about anything. Which apparently is a point of being an American lost on you. Among other things.
You know what I like about America? That it's possible for a poor black kid from Little Jamaica in Queens to end up one of the most read historians of economics ever, and to end up a tenured professor at Stanford. Know what I really really like? That this same professor gives not a whit for what he's supposed to think about anything. Which apparently is a point of being an American lost on you. Among other things.
| rnld | 2009-07-04 04:00:17 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Obama had nothing of the sort. Even on the stories that were difficult for him, the media fell all over themselves to make it as quick and painless as possible. Thus the Reverend Wright examination ended with "Obama's Speech on Race is the greatest speech since the Gettysburg Address!"
Fox ran with this story every day. So did conservative radio.
Fox ran with this story every day. So did conservative radio.
| rynthetyn | 2009-07-04 04:00:19 AM |
My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
| Casanova.Frankensteir | 2009-07-04 04:01:13 AM |
My bet is she either agreed to GTFO to avoid a pending scandal, or she and the family are barricading themselves in right now, because the scandal's unavoidable...
| GratuityIncluded | 2009-07-04 04:01:18 AM |
The challenges
| tallguywithglasseson
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2009-07-04 04:02:33 AM |
This is a bit of a bummer if true, I was really hoping for Palin to run in 2012.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 04:02:40 AM |
rynthetyn: My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
Know what I would do. Take her off my friends list and block her. Mom flips you shiat? Tell mom that it's your page and you can add or block whomever you like.
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
Know what I would do. Take her off my friends list and block her. Mom flips you shiat? Tell mom that it's your page and you can add or block whomever you like.
| rnld | 2009-07-04 04:03:24 AM |
GratuityIncluded: If you are a conservative, like myself, looking for any rationality about Palin ... you will not find it here in this thread. The uninformed (whether by no experience or by choice) don't understand what you and I like best in America and don't have the proclivity to fight about it.
She resigned as Governor today. Pure and simple. Odd indeed. Quitter.
She resigned as Governor today. Pure and simple. Odd indeed. Quitter.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 04:03:49 AM |
Casanova.Frankensteir: My bet is she either agreed to GTFO to avoid a pending scandal, or she and the family are barricading themselves in right now, because the scandal's unavoidable...
Oh that pic made LULZ,
Oh that pic made LULZ,
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 04:04:01 AM |
Jakevol2: rynthetyn: My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
Know what I would do. Take her off my friends list and block her. Mom flips you shiat? Tell mom that it's your page and you can add or block whomever you like.
And to bring you down some more bagel pizzas. It wouldn't even be an issue if she would just let you put a toaster oven downstairs. GOD. WHAT A biatch.
e/n
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
Know what I would do. Take her off my friends list and block her. Mom flips you shiat? Tell mom that it's your page and you can add or block whomever you like.
And to bring you down some more bagel pizzas. It wouldn't even be an issue if she would just let you put a toaster oven downstairs. GOD. WHAT A biatch.
e/n
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 04:06:40 AM |
Joliet_Jake: Jakevol2: rynthetyn: My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
Know what I would do. Take her off my friends list and block her. Mom flips you shiat? Tell mom that it's your page and you can add or block whomever you like.
And to bring you down some more bagel pizzas. It wouldn't even be an issue if she would just let you put a toaster oven downstairs. GOD. WHAT A biatch.
e/n
Bagel pizza's? Are you shiattin' me? Bring me down a six pack of those White Castle sliders from the freezer section.
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
Know what I would do. Take her off my friends list and block her. Mom flips you shiat? Tell mom that it's your page and you can add or block whomever you like.
And to bring you down some more bagel pizzas. It wouldn't even be an issue if she would just let you put a toaster oven downstairs. GOD. WHAT A biatch.
e/n
Bagel pizza's? Are you shiattin' me? Bring me down a six pack of those White Castle sliders from the freezer section.
| The Name | 2009-07-04 04:10:32 AM |
tallguywithglasseson: This is a bit of a bummer if true, I was really hoping for Palin to run in 2012.
Same here. I was totally hoping for a Palin/Plumber ticket. Just imagine a year and a half long Tea Party, except twice as stupid and (non-threateningly) inflammatory. It would officially be The Most Hilarious Political Campaign in History.
Same here. I was totally hoping for a Palin/Plumber ticket. Just imagine a year and a half long Tea Party, except twice as stupid and (non-threateningly) inflammatory. It would officially be The Most Hilarious Political Campaign in History.
| GratuityIncluded | 2009-07-04 04:11:20 AM |
WhyteRaven74: GratuityIncluded: don't understand what you and I like best in America
You know what I like about America? That it's possible for a poor black kid from Little Jamaica in Queens to end up one of the most read historians of economics ever, and to end up a tenured professor at Stanford. Know what I really really like? That this same professor gives not a whit for what he's supposed to think about anything. Which apparently is a point of being an American lost on you. Among other things.
You're wrong if you think she's against what you just stated.
More pointedly, you're a bigot if you don't give her the chance to prove it. On what basis do you confine her? Media??? Be open. Zealot. That type of behavior is evil and wrong. You'll be shown to be wrong when time rolls on.
You know what I like about America? That it's possible for a poor black kid from Little Jamaica in Queens to end up one of the most read historians of economics ever, and to end up a tenured professor at Stanford. Know what I really really like? That this same professor gives not a whit for what he's supposed to think about anything. Which apparently is a point of being an American lost on you. Among other things.
You're wrong if you think she's against what you just stated.
More pointedly, you're a bigot if you don't give her the chance to prove it. On what basis do you confine her? Media??? Be open. Zealot. That type of behavior is evil and wrong. You'll be shown to be wrong when time rolls on.
| technicolor-misfit | 2009-07-04 04:11:27 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog - technicolor-misfit:
Dude... she couldn't come up with the name of a single news magazine or newspaper! She's a farking idiot.
This one bugs me, too.
Sarah was being an idiot, but not in the way you say.
Sarah *could* have named newspapers and magazines, I'm sure. Instead, she was playing the Alaskan angle too tough, like everyone in America was a tourist getting off the boat in Juneau.
Remember she followed it up by saying something like, "We get them all up here...." She was trying to make it look like Couric was belittling Alaska, implying we don't get newspapers there.
We go through a lot of that kind of stuff with tourists. But Couric wasn't a tourist, and neither were the American people. She got defensive for no reason.
Same with the "You can see Russia from Alaska" schpiel. It's a tourist thing. She kept acting like people had just gotten off the plane, and she had to explain these little Alaska nuances to everyone. Thing is, by doing so, she wasn't answering the questions.
She did that a lot. Idiot still, but different kind of idiot.
We get different impressions of that then... I felt the "It's not like Alaska's a foreign country, Katie... Where you're all like 'how could you possibly keep up with what people are doin' in Washington D.C." was indeed bizarre and overly defensive... but I think she launched into that precisely because she couldn't come up with a single news magazine.
Sure, in a less stressful setting, I'm sure she could have at least come up with the name of Time or Newsweek or USA Today if given a few moments to think about it. But therein lies the rub... that's not an arcane trivia question. For anyone who actually reads, that answer would come right off the top of your head without even thinking about it no matter how stressful the situation... just like "what bands do you listen to," or "what TV shows do you watch," or "what are some of your favorite movies." She couldn't think of any she reads because she doesn't read any.
I mean, I'm sure she reads magazines... just probably not any that don't have perfume sample inserts. And as I said once before, I will at least give her credit for being smart enough to know that Vogue, Cosmopolitan, Us Weekly, and People were NOT acceptable responses to the question.
She's incurious and anti-intellectual. She reminds me of a cousin of mine who, when over at my house one afternoon while VH1 or TV Land or somebody was running the old Dick Cavett show with John and Yoko, looked up the screen and said "I cain't believe that guy's wearin' them cowboy boots."
They're just very small people who live in a very small world and don't have any interest in anything outside of it... and that's fine if you want to sell real estate or be a loan officer or even a doctor or an engineer or an attorney... but as POTUS, taking a keen interest in the outside world is AT LEAST half the job.
You need an understanding of the history of the world before you became a part of it. You need an understanding of philosophies and religions and beliefs that don't match your own. You need to have at least a rudimentary grasp of economics and law and sociology and a familiarity with technology... and on and on and on.... and you need the sort of curiosity wherein you would gain this sort of knowledge regardless of where you are or what you do.
Is she dumb for my office or your office? Maybe not SUPER-dumb... (especially for mine, I work in TV... we've got Sarah Palins crawling out of the woodwork ) but we're talking about the OVAL OFFICE.
That's what kills me about people who keep saying "she's not THAT dumb..." Yeah, maybe not compared to my cousin.
Dude... she couldn't come up with the name of a single news magazine or newspaper! She's a farking idiot.
This one bugs me, too.
Sarah was being an idiot, but not in the way you say.
Sarah *could* have named newspapers and magazines, I'm sure. Instead, she was playing the Alaskan angle too tough, like everyone in America was a tourist getting off the boat in Juneau.
Remember she followed it up by saying something like, "We get them all up here...." She was trying to make it look like Couric was belittling Alaska, implying we don't get newspapers there.
We go through a lot of that kind of stuff with tourists. But Couric wasn't a tourist, and neither were the American people. She got defensive for no reason.
Same with the "You can see Russia from Alaska" schpiel. It's a tourist thing. She kept acting like people had just gotten off the plane, and she had to explain these little Alaska nuances to everyone. Thing is, by doing so, she wasn't answering the questions.
She did that a lot. Idiot still, but different kind of idiot.
We get different impressions of that then... I felt the "It's not like Alaska's a foreign country, Katie... Where you're all like 'how could you possibly keep up with what people are doin' in Washington D.C." was indeed bizarre and overly defensive... but I think she launched into that precisely because she couldn't come up with a single news magazine.
Sure, in a less stressful setting, I'm sure she could have at least come up with the name of Time or Newsweek or USA Today if given a few moments to think about it. But therein lies the rub... that's not an arcane trivia question. For anyone who actually reads, that answer would come right off the top of your head without even thinking about it no matter how stressful the situation... just like "what bands do you listen to," or "what TV shows do you watch," or "what are some of your favorite movies." She couldn't think of any she reads because she doesn't read any.
I mean, I'm sure she reads magazines... just probably not any that don't have perfume sample inserts. And as I said once before, I will at least give her credit for being smart enough to know that Vogue, Cosmopolitan, Us Weekly, and People were NOT acceptable responses to the question.
She's incurious and anti-intellectual. She reminds me of a cousin of mine who, when over at my house one afternoon while VH1 or TV Land or somebody was running the old Dick Cavett show with John and Yoko, looked up the screen and said "I cain't believe that guy's wearin' them cowboy boots."
They're just very small people who live in a very small world and don't have any interest in anything outside of it... and that's fine if you want to sell real estate or be a loan officer or even a doctor or an engineer or an attorney... but as POTUS, taking a keen interest in the outside world is AT LEAST half the job.
You need an understanding of the history of the world before you became a part of it. You need an understanding of philosophies and religions and beliefs that don't match your own. You need to have at least a rudimentary grasp of economics and law and sociology and a familiarity with technology... and on and on and on.... and you need the sort of curiosity wherein you would gain this sort of knowledge regardless of where you are or what you do.
Is she dumb for my office or your office? Maybe not SUPER-dumb... (especially for mine, I work in TV... we've got Sarah Palins crawling out of the woodwork ) but we're talking about the OVAL OFFICE.
That's what kills me about people who keep saying "she's not THAT dumb..." Yeah, maybe not compared to my cousin.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 04:14:10 AM |
The Name: tallguywithglasseson: This is a bit of a bummer if true, I was really hoping for Palin to run in 2012.
Same here. I was totally hoping for a Palin/Plumber ticket. Just imagine a year and a half long Tea Party, except twice as stupid and (non-threateningly) inflammatory. It would officially be The Most Hilarious Political Campaign in History.
Sorry. Nothing will ever beat the '91 Edwin Edwards/David Duke campaign.
Link (new window)
/vote for the crook, it's important
Same here. I was totally hoping for a Palin/Plumber ticket. Just imagine a year and a half long Tea Party, except twice as stupid and (non-threateningly) inflammatory. It would officially be The Most Hilarious Political Campaign in History.
Sorry. Nothing will ever beat the '91 Edwin Edwards/David Duke campaign.
Link (new window)
/vote for the crook, it's important
| Dr. Mojo PhD
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2009-07-04 04:14:28 AM |
Ed Finnerty: Cubansaltyballs: I'm just looking for the Daffy Duck beating off gif....
dtdstudios.com
I just saw that gif crop up one day and never really knew why it did, other than it was Daffy Duck pulling his pecker.
But here's the thing, it's always struck me as funnier, and it finally hit me as to why. The motherfarker looks like Drudge. If that was the point all along, colour me stupid. But Jesus H the resemblance is uncanny.
dtdstudios.com
I just saw that gif crop up one day and never really knew why it did, other than it was Daffy Duck pulling his pecker.
But here's the thing, it's always struck me as funnier, and it finally hit me as to why. The motherfarker looks like Drudge. If that was the point all along, colour me stupid. But Jesus H the resemblance is uncanny.
| kingflower | 2009-07-04 04:14:59 AM |
Todd Palin is perfectly capable of pouring a foundation all by himself.....roughing in plumbing and bending tubes, installing drywall, installing electrical conduit, landscaping/grading......for christsake the man is a snow-machine champion....HE IS A GOD AMONGST MEN!!!
Maverick.
Maverick.
| Giltric | 2009-07-04 04:16:05 AM |
Joliet_Jake: Giltric: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
Except the anti-drunk driving peopledon't tell you the only way to avoid it is to stop drinking and driving.
FTFY
be honest, don't be a moran.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
Except the anti-drunk driving people
FTFY
be honest, don't be a moran.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 04:18:44 AM |
Giltric: Joliet_Jake: Giltric: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
Except the anti-drunk driving people don't tell you the only way to avoid it is to stop drinking and driving.
FTFY
be honest, don't be a moran.
Way to edit two parts of my post and only point one out to make your point seem credible. Yes, they tell you to stop drinking and driving. Not to stop driving. Just like the anti-abstinence people don't tell you to stop having unsafe sex, they tell you to stop having sex.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
Did they ever have assemblies on the dangers of drunk driving hosted by a quadropalegic who got that way from crashing their car while drunk?
/pffft as if hes an athority on drunk driving.
Except the anti-drunk driving people don't tell you the only way to avoid it is to stop drinking and driving.
FTFY
be honest, don't be a moran.
Way to edit two parts of my post and only point one out to make your point seem credible. Yes, they tell you to stop drinking and driving. Not to stop driving. Just like the anti-abstinence people don't tell you to stop having unsafe sex, they tell you to stop having sex.
| Tickle Mittens | 2009-07-04 04:19:07 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Jakevol2: FishingWithFredo: 3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
A plank of the Republican Part platform is Abstinence Only Sex Education. Bristol Palin had it. Sarah Palin supports it. Results speak for themselves.
Those of the GOP believe ignorance is a virtue. It's not. It's poverty. And to deny knowledge to your fellows is a cruelty.
It speaks to wisdom, intelligence and integrity. Or rather a deficit in some combination of the three.
Oh, and Bill Clinton was accused of raping a black child and covering it up in Primary Colors. Chelsea Clinton; various including Saturday Night Live reguarding factors BTW completely out of her control. I could probably dig up more particularly if I went to the library and started reading old newspapers, but what's the point? It's clear the team you support is the that with the approved ideology, irrespective of whatever form a successful national agenda might take.
I don't recall Sasha or Mia getting knocked up by some bohunk, "getting engaged" to said bohunk and the calling off the engagement when Mommy lost the election. I also don't recall Sasha or Mia preaching abstinence only to people their age while breastfeeding their crotchfruit.
And if you can tell me what any of those things had to do with John McCain and Sarah Palin running for president and vice president, respectively, that would be great.
And point me to examples of how other politicians' children were treated similarly in election coverage historically, that would be spiffy, too.
A plank of the Republican Part platform is Abstinence Only Sex Education. Bristol Palin had it. Sarah Palin supports it. Results speak for themselves.
Those of the GOP believe ignorance is a virtue. It's not. It's poverty. And to deny knowledge to your fellows is a cruelty.
It speaks to wisdom, intelligence and integrity. Or rather a deficit in some combination of the three.
Oh, and Bill Clinton was accused of raping a black child and covering it up in Primary Colors. Chelsea Clinton; various including Saturday Night Live reguarding factors BTW completely out of her control. I could probably dig up more particularly if I went to the library and started reading old newspapers, but what's the point? It's clear the team you support is the that with the approved ideology, irrespective of whatever form a successful national agenda might take.
| DemonEater | 2009-07-04 04:19:11 AM |
When whatever it is finally comes out, brace for a 1000+ post thread full of people like NYZooman insisting it's an Obama frame job because he was afraid of her beating him in 2012.
They'll do it. And they'll be absolutely serious.
I bet Beck and Limbaugh pick it up, actually.
They'll do it. And they'll be absolutely serious.
I bet Beck and Limbaugh pick it up, actually.
| GratuityIncluded | 2009-07-04 04:20:27 AM |
rnld: GratuityIncluded: If you are a conservative, like myself, looking for any rationality about Palin ... you will not find it here in this thread. The uninformed (whether by no experience or by choice) don't understand what you and I like best in America and don't have the proclivity to fight about it.
She resigned as Governor today. Pure and simple. Odd indeed. Quitter.
Pure and simple. You're a partisan. Hey, that's okay with me! But her motivations -- equated by your simpleton line of thinking ------ aren't necessarily what others like me think. I choose to believe it wasn't about quitting -- which would be easy to swallow if I were a hater. I choose to believe things I'm not fed by posts on blogs. I accept her at her word until facts dictate otherwise.
That's the American way mf'er. Or it should be! Get with the program or you and your kind are going to drag us all into the mud of history.
She resigned as Governor today. Pure and simple. Odd indeed. Quitter.
Pure and simple. You're a partisan. Hey, that's okay with me! But her motivations -- equated by your simpleton line of thinking ------ aren't necessarily what others like me think. I choose to believe it wasn't about quitting -- which would be easy to swallow if I were a hater. I choose to believe things I'm not fed by posts on blogs. I accept her at her word until facts dictate otherwise.
That's the American way mf'er. Or it should be! Get with the program or you and your kind are going to drag us all into the mud of history.
| bmasso | 2009-07-04 04:21:31 AM |
GAT_00: Klingon Penis: Did a Scandal Sink the U.S.S. Palin? (new window)
No sources on where they got the building material skimming though. If it's true, we'll probably see indictments on Monday given her sudden resignation.
Sooo.....
The windows on a convention center and the windows of their personal residence are the same?
Pics, or it didn't happen.
Seriously, does she supposedly have 40-foot window panes or something?
No sources on where they got the building material skimming though. If it's true, we'll probably see indictments on Monday given her sudden resignation.
Sooo.....
The windows on a convention center and the windows of their personal residence are the same?
Pics, or it didn't happen.
Seriously, does she supposedly have 40-foot window panes or something?
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 04:21:47 AM |
kasmel: The daughter/fiance was human interest. They were cynically used as props by the campaign.
Yeah. Don't you hate when that happens?
Out of sight, out of mind. They could have said, 'she's pregnant, they're getting married, she needs to be left alone to work on school/prepare for being a mom, we ask that you respectfully leave them alone.'
And if you believe that would have made the story go away, I've got several bridges I'd like to sell you.
Instead, they were given talk show gigs and put in front of as many cameras and microphones as possible because it kept them in the news.
[Citation Needed]
The only time I recall Bristol Palin on TV talking about abstinence was well after the election was over. I could be wrong, so I'll wait to see what you show me to back up your point.
Yeah. Don't you hate when that happens?
Out of sight, out of mind. They could have said, 'she's pregnant, they're getting married, she needs to be left alone to work on school/prepare for being a mom, we ask that you respectfully leave them alone.'
And if you believe that would have made the story go away, I've got several bridges I'd like to sell you.
Instead, they were given talk show gigs and put in front of as many cameras and microphones as possible because it kept them in the news.
[Citation Needed]
The only time I recall Bristol Palin on TV talking about abstinence was well after the election was over. I could be wrong, so I'll wait to see what you show me to back up your point.
| technicolor-misfit | 2009-07-04 04:24:03 AM |
kingflower - Todd Palin is perfectly capable of pouring a foundation all by himself.....roughing in plumbing and bending tubes, installing drywall, installing electrical conduit, landscaping/grading......for christsake the man is a snow-machine champion....HE IS A GOD AMONGST MEN!!!
Maverick.
Hey... he had help from some "buddies." I'm sure they were manly Real AmericanTM men one and all... something you Dem's wouldn't know anything about... but hey, if I need someone to make a froth heart in my latte, you lib homos will be the first I call.
Maverick.
Hey... he had help from some "buddies." I'm sure they were manly Real AmericanTM men one and all... something you Dem's wouldn't know anything about... but hey, if I need someone to make a froth heart in my latte, you lib homos will be the first I call.
| Benevolent Misanthrope
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2009-07-04 04:24:05 AM |
Fredo, if you don't like her, why are you spending so much time defending her? I guess for Republicans these days, liking Palin is like riding a moped - fun, but you don't want people knowing about it.
Some points, though:
1. Should have been given an immediate quiz on his feelings on Uzbekistan.
At least he can identify it and can handle a simple question about an issue that, while perhaps not the most pressing, still is important for a President.
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
MSM never circulated the rumor about Bristol being Trig's mother. But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
SpyvsSpy: If one gets pregnant out of wedlock we'll let you know.
And if you run on the "family values" ticket, including dragging your kids everywhere with you and using them as props on stage, don't be surprised when people notice that the image you're projecting is falling apart.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
During the election, that was done. Daily stories. Non-stop stories. I didn't see you protesting the injustice of it, though.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
You're kidding, right? How many damn "OMG - USELESS Without TELEPROMPTER!!!" stories have we seen?
Ask Obama where he gets his news, I bet he names 5 sources off the bat, at the very least. If he had been in that interview with Couric, he'd have nailed it. I mean, seriously - how bad to you have to be to get totally PWN3D in an interview with Katie Farking Couric?
Palin was no more abused than anyone else running in a national campaign. She earned the reputation of being a blithering idiot by proving it repeatedly. She couldn't answer basic questions, and then during a debate acted indignant that she would be expected to answer questions. She's a nut, and she's a hypocrite, and she's corrupt.
Why does anyone like her or even defend her?
Some points, though:
1. Should have been given an immediate quiz on his feelings on Uzbekistan.
At least he can identify it and can handle a simple question about an issue that, while perhaps not the most pressing, still is important for a President.
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
MSM never circulated the rumor about Bristol being Trig's mother. But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
SpyvsSpy: If one gets pregnant out of wedlock we'll let you know.
And if you run on the "family values" ticket, including dragging your kids everywhere with you and using them as props on stage, don't be surprised when people notice that the image you're projecting is falling apart.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
During the election, that was done. Daily stories. Non-stop stories. I didn't see you protesting the injustice of it, though.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
You're kidding, right? How many damn "OMG - USELESS Without TELEPROMPTER!!!" stories have we seen?
Ask Obama where he gets his news, I bet he names 5 sources off the bat, at the very least. If he had been in that interview with Couric, he'd have nailed it. I mean, seriously - how bad to you have to be to get totally PWN3D in an interview with Katie Farking Couric?
Palin was no more abused than anyone else running in a national campaign. She earned the reputation of being a blithering idiot by proving it repeatedly. She couldn't answer basic questions, and then during a debate acted indignant that she would be expected to answer questions. She's a nut, and she's a hypocrite, and she's corrupt.
Why does anyone like her or even defend her?
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 04:24:10 AM |
Well this has been about as much fun as I can have on a Friday night that does not include silk ropes and astro glide. But I am wiped. I will never get my Circadian rythym back on track as it is. I must bid all of you adieu,
But before I go let me leave you with this: Sarah Palin is a dumb twat, Bristol is a cock goblin, Willow is a slut in training and Trig is the smartest of the bunch.
Good night Farkers.
But before I go let me leave you with this: Sarah Palin is a dumb twat, Bristol is a cock goblin, Willow is a slut in training and Trig is the smartest of the bunch.
Good night Farkers.
| rynthetyn | 2009-07-04 04:24:16 AM |
Joliet_Jake: J
And to bring you down some more bagel pizzas. It wouldn't even be an issue if she would just let you put a toaster oven downstairs. GOD. WHAT A biatch.
e/n
Well, the funny thing is, I actually am back home at the moment, I was teaching English in Vietnam and just moved back to America a couple of weeks ago. It's why I got talked into accepting the friend request in the first place, the lady wanted to see my pictures that I took over the last year.
/teaching foreign relations majors during the US elections was quite the experience
//Especially foreign relations majors in Vietnam when John POW McCain was running
And to bring you down some more bagel pizzas. It wouldn't even be an issue if she would just let you put a toaster oven downstairs. GOD. WHAT A biatch.
e/n
Well, the funny thing is, I actually am back home at the moment, I was teaching English in Vietnam and just moved back to America a couple of weeks ago. It's why I got talked into accepting the friend request in the first place, the lady wanted to see my pictures that I took over the last year.
/teaching foreign relations majors during the US elections was quite the experience
//Especially foreign relations majors in Vietnam when John POW McCain was running
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 04:24:43 AM |
GratuityIncluded: You're wrong if you think she's against what you just stated.
The economic reality of the world that her compatriots would build would be such that said poor kid from Little Jamaica would've died in a sweatshop factory before hitting majority. The GOP power players have a copy of The Jungle in their spank bank.
It matters naught what she says she espouses. It's what she does, and who she surrounds herself with.
The economic reality of the world that her compatriots would build would be such that said poor kid from Little Jamaica would've died in a sweatshop factory before hitting majority. The GOP power players have a copy of The Jungle in their spank bank.
It matters naught what she says she espouses. It's what she does, and who she surrounds herself with.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 04:26:43 AM |
rynthetyn: Joliet_Jake: J
And to bring you down some more bagel pizzas. It wouldn't even be an issue if she would just let you put a toaster oven downstairs. GOD. WHAT A biatch.
e/n
Well, the funny thing is, I actually am back home at the moment, I was teaching English in Vietnam and just moved back to America a couple of weeks ago. It's why I got talked into accepting the friend request in the first place, the lady wanted to see my pictures that I took over the last year.
/teaching foreign relations majors during the US elections was quite the experience
//Especially foreign relations majors in Vietnam when John POW McCain was running
I've decided to turn 'teaching English in Vietnam' into a euphemism for something else. I just haven't decided what yet.
And to bring you down some more bagel pizzas. It wouldn't even be an issue if she would just let you put a toaster oven downstairs. GOD. WHAT A biatch.
e/n
Well, the funny thing is, I actually am back home at the moment, I was teaching English in Vietnam and just moved back to America a couple of weeks ago. It's why I got talked into accepting the friend request in the first place, the lady wanted to see my pictures that I took over the last year.
/teaching foreign relations majors during the US elections was quite the experience
//Especially foreign relations majors in Vietnam when John POW McCain was running
I've decided to turn 'teaching English in Vietnam' into a euphemism for something else. I just haven't decided what yet.
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 04:26:52 AM |
GratuityIncluded: you and your kind are going to drag us all into the mud of history.
You and your kind already did.
You and your kind already did.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 04:28:34 AM |
technicolor-misfit:
We get different impressions of that then... I felt the "It's not like Alaska's a foreign country, Katie... Where you're all like 'how could you possibly keep up with what people are doin' in Washington D.C." was indeed bizarre and overly defensive... but I think she launched into that precisely because she couldn't come up with a single news magazine.
Another nuance for you, then.
In Alaska, asking you what you read *is* a trap question. There were two major newspapers here for a while, back in the 90s -- polar opposites. People learned to judge others by which newspaper ended up on their lawn in the morning.
Admitting you read the wrong publication was a death sentence. Every campaign manager I ever met there would caution you against committing to any publications (and yes, I was a politician there at one time).
She didn't grasp that Americans as a whole aren't that polarized, and that this wasn't a gotcha question.
Is she dumb for my office or your office? Maybe not SUPER-dumb... (especially for mine, I work in TV... we've got Sarah Palins crawling out of the woodwork ) but we're talking about the OVAL OFFICE.
She's far too dumb to work in my field, yes, which is mostly oil and aviation. She's a whole different kind of dumb than you're used to.
We get different impressions of that then... I felt the "It's not like Alaska's a foreign country, Katie... Where you're all like 'how could you possibly keep up with what people are doin' in Washington D.C." was indeed bizarre and overly defensive... but I think she launched into that precisely because she couldn't come up with a single news magazine.
Another nuance for you, then.
In Alaska, asking you what you read *is* a trap question. There were two major newspapers here for a while, back in the 90s -- polar opposites. People learned to judge others by which newspaper ended up on their lawn in the morning.
Admitting you read the wrong publication was a death sentence. Every campaign manager I ever met there would caution you against committing to any publications (and yes, I was a politician there at one time).
She didn't grasp that Americans as a whole aren't that polarized, and that this wasn't a gotcha question.
Is she dumb for my office or your office? Maybe not SUPER-dumb... (especially for mine, I work in TV... we've got Sarah Palins crawling out of the woodwork ) but we're talking about the OVAL OFFICE.
She's far too dumb to work in my field, yes, which is mostly oil and aviation. She's a whole different kind of dumb than you're used to.
| I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body | 2009-07-04 04:31:31 AM |
Dr. Mojo PhD: Ed Finnerty: Cubansaltyballs: I'm just looking for the Daffy Duck beating off gif....
dtdstudios.com
I just saw that gif crop up one day and never really knew why it did, other than it was Daffy Duck pulling his pecker.
But here's the thing, it's always struck me as funnier, and it finally hit me as to why. The motherfarker looks like Drudge. If that was the point all along, colour me stupid. But Jesus H the resemblance is uncanny.
dtdstudios.com
I just saw that gif crop up one day and never really knew why it did, other than it was Daffy Duck pulling his pecker.
But here's the thing, it's always struck me as funnier, and it finally hit me as to why. The motherfarker looks like Drudge. If that was the point all along, colour me stupid. But Jesus H the resemblance is uncanny.
| Dr. Mojo PhD
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2009-07-04 04:31:41 AM |
Benevolent Misanthrope: 4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
During the election, that was done. Daily stories. Non-stop stories. I didn't see you protesting the injustice of it, though.
Wow, that question was actually asked? My God, the community organizer/lack of experience shiat was pounded non-stop by pundits and breathless reported on by the Media.
You saved your "You're kidding?" for the one after that?
During the election, that was done. Daily stories. Non-stop stories. I didn't see you protesting the injustice of it, though.
Wow, that question was actually asked? My God, the community organizer/lack of experience shiat was pounded non-stop by pundits and breathless reported on by the Media.
You saved your "You're kidding?" for the one after that?
| WhyteRaven74
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2009-07-04 04:32:00 AM |
GratuityIncluded: You're wrong if you think she's against what you just stated.
I somehow doubt she's much concerned with turning back the clock and making sure all public schools get enough funding so that those in poor areas are as well run as those in better to do areas.
I somehow doubt she's much concerned with turning back the clock and making sure all public schools get enough funding so that those in poor areas are as well run as those in better to do areas.
| Kierkegaard's Pseudonym | 2009-07-04 04:32:23 AM |
I really hope that blog is wrong and it's another Republican same-sex scandal.
We never get lucky with these.
We never get lucky with these.
| Benevolent Misanthrope
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2009-07-04 04:32:25 AM |
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 04:33:19 AM |
rynthetyn: /teaching foreign relations majors during the US elections was quite the experience
//Especially foreign relations majors in Vietnam when John POW McCain was running
I am interested in your experiences. I don't suppose you happen to have a newsletter?
//Especially foreign relations majors in Vietnam when John POW McCain was running
I am interested in your experiences. I don't suppose you happen to have a newsletter?
| GratuityIncluded | 2009-07-04 04:33:35 AM |
Being clever will not win what you want to win. It'll be the same old fight until you and I are gone.
/ I'm down for it.
// I urge you to take a step back and look deeper. You are wrong in your misplaced hatred.
/ I'm down for it.
// I urge you to take a step back and look deeper. You are wrong in your misplaced hatred.
| Benevolent Misanthrope
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2009-07-04 04:34:07 AM |
Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: I really hope that blog is wrong and it's another Republican same-sex scandal.
We never get lucky with these.
When I first saw this story break, I did make a friend snort beer out of her nose by blurting out, "What the hell - does Palin have an Argentinian mistress, too?"
We never get lucky with these.
When I first saw this story break, I did make a friend snort beer out of her nose by blurting out, "What the hell - does Palin have an Argentinian mistress, too?"
| svejker_14 | 2009-07-04 04:34:22 AM |
Democracy is a fragile little thing.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 04:34:31 AM |
Kierkegaard's Pseudonym: I really hope that blog is wrong and it's another Republican same-sex scandal.
We never get lucky with these.
Here's hoping she was visiting Michelle Bachman at a hometown airport bathroom.
We never get lucky with these.
Here's hoping she was visiting Michelle Bachman at a hometown airport bathroom.
| Cucullen | 2009-07-04 04:34:45 AM |
I kinda hate to see her go, its been so much fun. But I love to watch her burn. Here's hoping she runs for senate and we can put her in a cage match with Bachmann.
Palin/Bachmann 2012
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 04:36:01 AM |
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: Dr. Mojo PhD: Ed Finnerty: Cubansaltyballs: I'm just looking for the Daffy Duck beating off gif....
dtdstudios.com
I just saw that gif crop up one day and never really knew why it did, other than it was Daffy Duck pulling his pecker.
But here's the thing, it's always struck me as funnier, and it finally hit me as to why. The motherfarker looks like Drudge. If that was the point all along, colour me stupid. But Jesus H the resemblance is uncanny.
Again, sometimes the combination of User ID and post content are just priceless....
dtdstudios.com
I just saw that gif crop up one day and never really knew why it did, other than it was Daffy Duck pulling his pecker.
But here's the thing, it's always struck me as funnier, and it finally hit me as to why. The motherfarker looks like Drudge. If that was the point all along, colour me stupid. But Jesus H the resemblance is uncanny.
Again, sometimes the combination of User ID and post content are just priceless....
| Cucullen | 2009-07-04 04:39:49 AM |
GIS you read my mind.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 04:41:12 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: Another nuance for you, then.
In Alaska, asking you what you read *is* a trap question. There were two major newspapers here for a while, back in the 90s -- polar opposites. People learned to judge others by which newspaper ended up on their lawn in the morning.
Admitting you read the wrong publication was a death sentence. Every campaign manager I ever met there would caution you against committing to any publications (and yes, I was a politician there at one time).
She didn't grasp that Americans as a whole aren't that polarized, and that this wasn't a gotcha question.
"What newspapers do you read?"
"All of them."
"Locally, both of them. That is, we have two major newspapers in Alaska, which taken, together cover the broad political spectrum. I have always believed in ensuring I have access to diverse views so that I can appreciate the needs of all Alaskans. It's a bipartisan, knowledgeable approach that lets the real work get done even where we respectfully disagree. At a national level I read digests produced by my staff of all national newspapers so that, again, in a bipartisan and inclusive manner I can make sure that mavrik."
In Alaska, asking you what you read *is* a trap question. There were two major newspapers here for a while, back in the 90s -- polar opposites. People learned to judge others by which newspaper ended up on their lawn in the morning.
Admitting you read the wrong publication was a death sentence. Every campaign manager I ever met there would caution you against committing to any publications (and yes, I was a politician there at one time).
She didn't grasp that Americans as a whole aren't that polarized, and that this wasn't a gotcha question.
"What newspapers do you read?"
"Locally, both of them. That is, we have two major newspapers in Alaska, which taken, together cover the broad political spectrum. I have always believed in ensuring I have access to diverse views so that I can appreciate the needs of all Alaskans. It's a bipartisan, knowledgeable approach that lets the real work get done even where we respectfully disagree. At a national level I read digests produced by my staff of all national newspapers so that, again, in a bipartisan and inclusive manner I can make sure that mavrik."
| Kierkegaard's Pseudonym | 2009-07-04 04:42:12 AM |
Joliet_Jake: Here's hoping she was visiting Michelle Bachman at a hometown airport bathroom.
Something like that at least. The good ship Palin can't end like this. It's so unsatisfying. I will have serious schadenfreude blue balls if we end this movie with a pedestrian embezzlement scandal, because we had so much potential for the truly spectacular.
Something like that at least. The good ship Palin can't end like this. It's so unsatisfying. I will have serious schadenfreude blue balls if we end this movie with a pedestrian embezzlement scandal, because we had so much potential for the truly spectacular.
| rynthetyn | 2009-07-04 04:42:28 AM |
Jakevol2: rynthetyn: My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
Know what I would do. Take her off my friends list and block her. Mom flips you shiat? Tell mom that it's your page and you can add or block whomever you like.
My mom wouldn't care if I unfriended her, the problem is that it makes it pretty awkward when it's somebody that you actually know in real life, especially when they're someone who's given you money while you were off on the other side of the planet working for peanuts for an NGO.
Meanwhile, a few weeks back, against my better judgement I let my mom talk me into accepting a facebook friend request from a family friend who's extremely far right because she wanted to see the pictures I'd posted. As I said, it was against my better judgement, and now I've got her going full retard all over my facebook wall because of what I posted about Palin. It makes the freepers and fark trolls sound sane. She's going on and on about how the evil dems didn't let the media say anything about Michelle Obama but the Palin kids can get attacked, and calling Chelsea the White House dog isn't anywhere near the same as all of the horrible mean spirited things against poor Sarah and other Republican politicians. Moral of the story there is, don't ever let a parent talk you into friending people who you know will flip out over what you post, even if they claim that they've already been warned that they won't agree with you.
Know what I would do. Take her off my friends list and block her. Mom flips you shiat? Tell mom that it's your page and you can add or block whomever you like.
My mom wouldn't care if I unfriended her, the problem is that it makes it pretty awkward when it's somebody that you actually know in real life, especially when they're someone who's given you money while you were off on the other side of the planet working for peanuts for an NGO.
| GratuityIncluded | 2009-07-04 04:43:01 AM |
WhyteRaven74: GratuityIncluded: You're wrong if you think she's against what you just stated.
I somehow doubt she's much concerned with turning back the clock and making sure all public schools get enough funding so that those in poor areas are as well run as those in better to do areas.
I'm not sure I'd go that route. She is from Alaska after all and I'm sure her state has seen the benefits of funding rural education.
Federally funding sex changes (and the like) for scientifically ambiguous reasons ... that may be another story.
I somehow doubt she's much concerned with turning back the clock and making sure all public schools get enough funding so that those in poor areas are as well run as those in better to do areas.
I'm not sure I'd go that route. She is from Alaska after all and I'm sure her state has seen the benefits of funding rural education.
Federally funding sex changes (and the like) for scientifically ambiguous reasons ... that may be another story.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 04:46:45 AM |
rynthetyn: My mom wouldn't care if I unfriended her, the problem is that it makes it pretty awkward when it's somebody that you actually know in real life, especially when they're someone who's given you money while you were off on the other side of the planet working for peanuts for an NGO.
I have a facebook friend who does little else but promote her holistic complimentary therapy business. I hide her posts.
But if this friend is disrespectfully giving your page grief, I guess just adopt troll tactics and ignore her/don't engage online. Or just -- once -- ask her to stop because it's really not how you want to be perceived. You can do this all friendly-like.
I have a facebook friend who does little else but promote her holistic complimentary therapy business. I hide her posts.
But if this friend is disrespectfully giving your page grief, I guess just adopt troll tactics and ignore her/don't engage online. Or just -- once -- ask her to stop because it's really not how you want to be perceived. You can do this all friendly-like.
| Thorak
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2009-07-04 04:46:54 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: She didn't grasp that Americans as a whole aren't that polarized, and that this wasn't a gotcha question.
You spent several paragraphs explaining that Palin wasn't ignorant because she couldn't name a newspaper, she was ignorant because she didn't know a damn thing about how the US works outside of Alaska.
And she was running for VP of the entire friggin' USA.
I'm not sure how you think this "nuance" is at all an improvement. It still proves her to be grossly inept. Perhaps grossly inept and insular rather than grossly inept and illiterate, but it's a pretty tiny difference.
Kind of like claiming she doesn't go around kicking babies every day, she kicks puppies.
You spent several paragraphs explaining that Palin wasn't ignorant because she couldn't name a newspaper, she was ignorant because she didn't know a damn thing about how the US works outside of Alaska.
And she was running for VP of the entire friggin' USA.
I'm not sure how you think this "nuance" is at all an improvement. It still proves her to be grossly inept. Perhaps grossly inept and insular rather than grossly inept and illiterate, but it's a pretty tiny difference.
Kind of like claiming she doesn't go around kicking babies every day, she kicks puppies.
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 04:48:00 AM |
bmasso: Pics, or it didn't happen.
Seriously, does she supposedly have 40-foot window panes or something?
They're pretty farking huge windows.
Seriously, does she supposedly have 40-foot window panes or something?
They're pretty farking huge windows.
| FishingWithFredo | 2009-07-04 04:48:41 AM |
Benevolent Misanthrope: Fredo, if you don't like her, why are you spending so much time defending her?
I think she's a not-ready-for-primetime politician who was absolutely treated unfairly by the media and by liberal haters in general, who I find detestable.
I had no illusions that Palin's going to be president in '12 or whenever. We quite clearly need some economically experienced adults in charge.
I gave Palin the benefit of the doubt on some things you no doubt do not. That ended today. She's a quitter, and her speech as to why is obviously not the full truth.
I've said that enough times. I guess I'm done. Nothing more to say, really. I'll make this my parting shot.
Some points, though:
1. Should have been given an immediate quiz on his feelings on Uzbekistan.
At least he can identify it and can handle a simple question about an issue that, while perhaps not the most pressing, still is important for a President.
Could he have a week into running? The point is, he wasn't asked those kinds of questions. His deep, lengthy, distinguished experience was accepted by the mainstream media. Palin -- the governor of a state -- got the gotcha shiat instead. She decided not to play along, and it made her look really bad.
This isn't about defending Palin; it's about once again pointing out the corruption of the agenda-driven media.
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
MSM never circulated the rumor about Bristol being Trig's mother.
According to This news story, you are incorrect:
Rumors that Bristol was Trig's mother swirled on the Internet shortly after McCain chose Palin as his running mate. But the mainstream media did not report the story until the McCain campaign announced that Bristol was pregnant, in part to tamp down the rumors about Trig.
But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.
When and where did the mainstream media say that?
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
SpyvsSpy: If one gets pregnant out of wedlock we'll let you know.
Interesting criteria you have for what makes a politician's children fair game.
And if you run on the "family values" ticket, including dragging your kids everywhere with you and using them as props on stage,
See my Obama family photo above. I'll dig up a few dozen more from the campaign, if you'd like.
Your hypocrisy is showing.
don't be surprised when people notice that the image you're projecting is falling apart.
Which makes dragging a political candidate you don't like's children through the mud no less despicable. But you either get that or you don't.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
During the election, that was done. Daily stories. Non-stop stories. I didn't see you protesting the injustice of it, though.
By somebody other than Fox? Do share.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
You're kidding, right? How many damn "OMG - USELESS Without TELEPROMPTER!!!" stories have we seen?
Stories in the mainstream media? That are seriously, caustically attacking Obama on this issue? Outside of maybe a couple stories on Fox?
That simply never happened.
Ask Obama where he gets his news, I bet he names 5 sources off the bat, at the very least. If he had been in that interview with Couric, he'd have nailed it. I mean, seriously - how bad to you have to be to get totally PWN3D in an interview with Katie Farking Couric?
I've already explained what I believe happened there. Could be wrong.
And the point you're missing, anyway, is nobody in the Obama-fellating media would have even considered asking him such a question. My point's that; not Palin's qualifications for president or vice president; or lack thereof.
I think she's a not-ready-for-primetime politician who was absolutely treated unfairly by the media and by liberal haters in general, who I find detestable.
I had no illusions that Palin's going to be president in '12 or whenever. We quite clearly need some economically experienced adults in charge.
I gave Palin the benefit of the doubt on some things you no doubt do not. That ended today. She's a quitter, and her speech as to why is obviously not the full truth.
I've said that enough times. I guess I'm done. Nothing more to say, really. I'll make this my parting shot.
Some points, though:
1. Should have been given an immediate quiz on his feelings on Uzbekistan.
At least he can identify it and can handle a simple question about an issue that, while perhaps not the most pressing, still is important for a President.
Could he have a week into running? The point is, he wasn't asked those kinds of questions. His deep, lengthy, distinguished experience was accepted by the mainstream media. Palin -- the governor of a state -- got the gotcha shiat instead. She decided not to play along, and it made her look really bad.
This isn't about defending Palin; it's about once again pointing out the corruption of the agenda-driven media.
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
MSM never circulated the rumor about Bristol being Trig's mother.
According to This news story, you are incorrect:
Rumors that Bristol was Trig's mother swirled on the Internet shortly after McCain chose Palin as his running mate. But the mainstream media did not report the story until the McCain campaign announced that Bristol was pregnant, in part to tamp down the rumors about Trig.
But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.
When and where did the mainstream media say that?
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
SpyvsSpy: If one gets pregnant out of wedlock we'll let you know.
Interesting criteria you have for what makes a politician's children fair game.
And if you run on the "family values" ticket, including dragging your kids everywhere with you and using them as props on stage,
See my Obama family photo above. I'll dig up a few dozen more from the campaign, if you'd like.
Your hypocrisy is showing.
don't be surprised when people notice that the image you're projecting is falling apart.
Which makes dragging a political candidate you don't like's children through the mud no less despicable. But you either get that or you don't.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
During the election, that was done. Daily stories. Non-stop stories. I didn't see you protesting the injustice of it, though.
By somebody other than Fox? Do share.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
You're kidding, right? How many damn "OMG - USELESS Without TELEPROMPTER!!!" stories have we seen?
Stories in the mainstream media? That are seriously, caustically attacking Obama on this issue? Outside of maybe a couple stories on Fox?
That simply never happened.
Ask Obama where he gets his news, I bet he names 5 sources off the bat, at the very least. If he had been in that interview with Couric, he'd have nailed it. I mean, seriously - how bad to you have to be to get totally PWN3D in an interview with Katie Farking Couric?
I've already explained what I believe happened there. Could be wrong.
And the point you're missing, anyway, is nobody in the Obama-fellating media would have even considered asking him such a question. My point's that; not Palin's qualifications for president or vice president; or lack thereof.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 04:48:46 AM |
Thorak: Lenny_da_Hog: She didn't grasp that Americans as a whole aren't that polarized, and that this wasn't a gotcha question.
You spent several paragraphs explaining that Palin wasn't ignorant because she couldn't name a newspaper, she was ignorant because she didn't know a damn thing about how the US works outside of Alaska.
And she was running for VP of the entire friggin' USA.
I'm not sure how you think this "nuance" is at all an improvement. It still proves her to be grossly inept. Perhaps grossly inept and insular rather than grossly inept and illiterate, but it's a pretty tiny difference.
Kind of like claiming she doesn't go around kicking babies every day, she kicks puppies.
If you weren't so much like Palin yourself, you'd realize that I wasn't defending her. Go back and read.
You spent several paragraphs explaining that Palin wasn't ignorant because she couldn't name a newspaper, she was ignorant because she didn't know a damn thing about how the US works outside of Alaska.
And she was running for VP of the entire friggin' USA.
I'm not sure how you think this "nuance" is at all an improvement. It still proves her to be grossly inept. Perhaps grossly inept and insular rather than grossly inept and illiterate, but it's a pretty tiny difference.
Kind of like claiming she doesn't go around kicking babies every day, she kicks puppies.
If you weren't so much like Palin yourself, you'd realize that I wasn't defending her. Go back and read.
| Joliet_Jake | 2009-07-04 04:48:57 AM |
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 04:52:23 AM |
I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body
Heh, the mister can't even breathe now. He's choking on his beer.
Heh, the mister can't even breathe now. He's choking on his beer.
| Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin | 2009-07-04 04:55:01 AM |
lstywnch: bmasso: Pics, or it didn't happen.
Seriously, does she supposedly have 40-foot window panes or something?
They're pretty farking huge windows.
they are pretty big.
Seriously, does she supposedly have 40-foot window panes or something?
They're pretty farking huge windows.
they are pretty big.
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-04 04:55:17 AM |
Palin's the VICTIM!1!
Not to distract from PALIN'S ABRUPT RESIGNATION, but has anyone noticed how fat barry is?
Not to distract from PALIN'S ABRUPT RESIGNATION, but has anyone noticed how fat barry is?
| Benevolent Misanthrope
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2009-07-04 04:55:43 AM |
<shrug> Enjoy that moped, Fredo.
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 04:56:45 AM |
Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: they are pretty big.
I couldn't find a good pic of the Wasilla sports complex to compare.
I couldn't find a good pic of the Wasilla sports complex to compare.
| VwlssWndr | 2009-07-04 04:57:46 AM |
| Thorak
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2009-07-04 04:58:49 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: If you weren't so much like Palin yourself, you'd realize that I wasn't defending her. Go back and read.
You provided a rationale that could explain why Palin may have been justified in responding "all of them". It was a dumb rationale, but a rationale. That's a defense of her comment, even if you're acknowledging that it's a dumb defense from the get-go. Mitigation, rather than outright contradiction.
Pretty sure I'm not that far off-base to see that as defending her comment. Maybe you didn't intend it to be one, but as written, it certainly reads like one.
You provided a rationale that could explain why Palin may have been justified in responding "all of them". It was a dumb rationale, but a rationale. That's a defense of her comment, even if you're acknowledging that it's a dumb defense from the get-go. Mitigation, rather than outright contradiction.
Pretty sure I'm not that far off-base to see that as defending her comment. Maybe you didn't intend it to be one, but as written, it certainly reads like one.
| Nina_Hartley's_Ass | 2009-07-04 05:01:24 AM |
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 05:01:46 AM |
And the point you're missing, anyway, is nobody in the Obama-fellating media would have even considered asking him such a question.
No, that's wrong. He got asked--like every single politician ever--TONS of silly little warm-up questions (what do you read? what's your favorite team?)...
...the difference is he didn't answer them in the defensive, clueless manner Palin did.
Get it? It's only an issue because of the way she non-answered it. She made it a story by answering it in a dumb way.
For instance, O'reilly asked Obama plenty of tough questions--Obama just didn't CHOKE in a mockable way like Palin did. He didn't sit there and spew out A Paragraph To Nowhere or blink and wink like a doofus. If he had, it would have been a story. He didn't; so it wasn't.
PALIN made those things stories--not the so-called "gotcha" press.
No, that's wrong. He got asked--like every single politician ever--TONS of silly little warm-up questions (what do you read? what's your favorite team?)...
...the difference is he didn't answer them in the defensive, clueless manner Palin did.
Get it? It's only an issue because of the way she non-answered it. She made it a story by answering it in a dumb way.
For instance, O'reilly asked Obama plenty of tough questions--Obama just didn't CHOKE in a mockable way like Palin did. He didn't sit there and spew out A Paragraph To Nowhere or blink and wink like a doofus. If he had, it would have been a story. He didn't; so it wasn't.
PALIN made those things stories--not the so-called "gotcha" press.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 05:02:17 AM |
Thorak: Lenny_da_Hog: If you weren't so much like Palin yourself, you'd realize that I wasn't defending her. Go back and read.
You provided a rationale that could explain why Palin may have been justified in responding "all of them". It was a dumb rationale, but a rationale. That's a defense of her comment, even if you're acknowledging that it's a dumb defense from the get-go. Mitigation, rather than outright contradiction.
Pretty sure I'm not that far off-base to see that as defending her comment. Maybe you didn't intend it to be one, but as written, it certainly reads like one.
I never said she was justified. I said she was a whole different kind of stupid than people are used to.
It reads like one because you jumped in halfway through the thread without knowing WTF you were talking about.
You provided a rationale that could explain why Palin may have been justified in responding "all of them". It was a dumb rationale, but a rationale. That's a defense of her comment, even if you're acknowledging that it's a dumb defense from the get-go. Mitigation, rather than outright contradiction.
Pretty sure I'm not that far off-base to see that as defending her comment. Maybe you didn't intend it to be one, but as written, it certainly reads like one.
I never said she was justified. I said she was a whole different kind of stupid than people are used to.
It reads like one because you jumped in halfway through the thread without knowing WTF you were talking about.
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 05:05:55 AM |
| Thorak
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2009-07-04 05:06:19 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: It reads like one because you jumped in halfway through the thread without knowing WTF you were talking about.
You're being awfully hostile for someone who just got caught defending Palin.
You're being awfully hostile for someone who just got caught defending Palin.
| Hobodeluxe
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2009-07-04 05:07:22 AM |
poor,poor Sarah. Honey the world been treatin' you bad? That mean old MSM still talking bad about you? Maybe you guys just got off on the wrong foot. The first thing I recall is you giving a speech after the announcement of your selection for VP on McCain's ticket.
You kept going on about turning down the "Bridge to Nowhere" when it was already widely known that you had wanted the bridge and kept the money any way. But yet you continued to lie. I think this is where it all started. Then came the news out of Alaska of the ethics investigations. Seems you had fired a man for not firing your brother in law who was in a custody battle with your sister.
At first you denied having anything to do with it. That your office would be completely transparent about it.
Then came the audio tapes of the recorded phone calls.
Then Todd's emails etc. Suddenly it's time to batten down the hatches. Pull out the old tried and true executive privilege excuse for refusing to work with the investigators.
Suddenly the lawyers from the RNC,McCain Campaign and even James Dobson descend on Alaska to cover this up and try to squash it.
This is probably where it went from bad to worse. Then we had the Couric interview. Then you went and hid for a while.
then there was the convention,the divisive rhetoric from you. you really are a divisive speaker. those who believe as you do are the only "real Americans"
that tends to put people off.
but yeah blame it on the media. it always works with the base.
You kept going on about turning down the "Bridge to Nowhere" when it was already widely known that you had wanted the bridge and kept the money any way. But yet you continued to lie. I think this is where it all started. Then came the news out of Alaska of the ethics investigations. Seems you had fired a man for not firing your brother in law who was in a custody battle with your sister.
At first you denied having anything to do with it. That your office would be completely transparent about it.
Then came the audio tapes of the recorded phone calls.
Then Todd's emails etc. Suddenly it's time to batten down the hatches. Pull out the old tried and true executive privilege excuse for refusing to work with the investigators.
Suddenly the lawyers from the RNC,McCain Campaign and even James Dobson descend on Alaska to cover this up and try to squash it.
This is probably where it went from bad to worse. Then we had the Couric interview. Then you went and hid for a while.
then there was the convention,the divisive rhetoric from you. you really are a divisive speaker. those who believe as you do are the only "real Americans"
that tends to put people off.
but yeah blame it on the media. it always works with the base.
| rynthetyn | 2009-07-04 05:07:45 AM |
PartTimeBuddha: rynthetyn: /teaching foreign relations majors during the US elections was quite the experience
//Especially foreign relations majors in Vietnam when John POW McCain was running
I am interested in your experiences. I don't suppose you happen to have a newsletter?
I do in fact have a newsletter, of which I need to stop putting off writing my final edition. :)
I think the craziest moment during the election was when one of my students decided to argue in class that she liked John McCain better than Barack Obama because John McCain was a war hero who had stood up under torture. While I was trying to pick myself up off the floor, the rest of the class was sitting there snickering. That was also the girl who admired Sarah Palin for her ability to be in high office and regain her figure so soon after giving birth.
I tried not to show my disdain for Palin though, because in teaching a class that was 95% female, all aspiring to go into politics or government service in a country with very few female role models, Palin (well, until her meltdown, anyway), represented a role model that it was possible for a woman to be successful in their chosen field and still have a family and children. That's what pisses me off with Palin, she had the potential to be a great role model to young women around the world, and she screwed it up by being such a moron.
We also had John McCain pay a visit to the university, it was pretty surreal to stand there watching a leader from your home country getting questioned, on foreign soil, about human rights abuses committed by your government at Gitmo. It's especially surreal when the leader in question was tortured in that same country.
Then there was the time that a student decided that there wasn't enough debate in class and started arguing that suicide bombing was an effective military strategy for the Palestinians because Vietnam had used it successfully against American troops, thus appalling the other 99% of the class that had all already concluded that suicide bombing was never morally acceptable.
//Especially foreign relations majors in Vietnam when John POW McCain was running
I am interested in your experiences. I don't suppose you happen to have a newsletter?
I do in fact have a newsletter, of which I need to stop putting off writing my final edition. :)
I think the craziest moment during the election was when one of my students decided to argue in class that she liked John McCain better than Barack Obama because John McCain was a war hero who had stood up under torture. While I was trying to pick myself up off the floor, the rest of the class was sitting there snickering. That was also the girl who admired Sarah Palin for her ability to be in high office and regain her figure so soon after giving birth.
I tried not to show my disdain for Palin though, because in teaching a class that was 95% female, all aspiring to go into politics or government service in a country with very few female role models, Palin (well, until her meltdown, anyway), represented a role model that it was possible for a woman to be successful in their chosen field and still have a family and children. That's what pisses me off with Palin, she had the potential to be a great role model to young women around the world, and she screwed it up by being such a moron.
We also had John McCain pay a visit to the university, it was pretty surreal to stand there watching a leader from your home country getting questioned, on foreign soil, about human rights abuses committed by your government at Gitmo. It's especially surreal when the leader in question was tortured in that same country.
Then there was the time that a student decided that there wasn't enough debate in class and started arguing that suicide bombing was an effective military strategy for the Palestinians because Vietnam had used it successfully against American troops, thus appalling the other 99% of the class that had all already concluded that suicide bombing was never morally acceptable.
| Kierkegaard's Pseudonym | 2009-07-04 05:09:38 AM |
rynthetyn: Then there was the time that a student decided that there wasn't enough debate in class and started arguing that suicide bombing was an effective military strategy for the Palestinians because Vietnam had used it successfully against American troops, thus appalling the other 99% of the class that had all already concluded that suicide bombing was never morally acceptable.
That student's name? Saul Tigh.
That student's name? Saul Tigh.
| Nickers | 2009-07-04 05:10:20 AM |
Ba-da-dah-da-daaaah, I'm lovin' it!
/Canadian
//Would've voted Obama in the 2008 election were I American
///Palin's a farking joke, it's about time she stepped down
/Canadian
//Would've voted Obama in the 2008 election were I American
///Palin's a farking joke, it's about time she stepped down
| The Why Not Guy
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2009-07-04 05:14:43 AM |
Sarah Palin: Quitbull with Lipstick
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 05:15:28 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Which makes dragging a political candidate you don't like's children through the mud no less despicable. But you either get that or you don't.
AND OBAMA TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO DO IT!!
AND WHEN PALIN WAS ASKED ABOUT WRIGHT SHE SAID THE MEDIA SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT MORE.
OBAMA SAID THAT STUFF WAS OFF LIMITS.
PALIN ENCOURAGED THAT BULLshiat!
AND OBAMA TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO DO IT!!
AND WHEN PALIN WAS ASKED ABOUT WRIGHT SHE SAID THE MEDIA SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT MORE.
OBAMA SAID THAT STUFF WAS OFF LIMITS.
PALIN ENCOURAGED THAT BULLshiat!
| rynthetyn | 2009-07-04 05:18:11 AM |
PartTimeBuddha: rynthetyn: My mom wouldn't care if I unfriended her, the problem is that it makes it pretty awkward when it's somebody that you actually know in real life, especially when they're someone who's given you money while you were off on the other side of the planet working for peanuts for an NGO.
I have a facebook friend who does little else but promote her holistic complimentary therapy business. I hide her posts.
But if this friend is disrespectfully giving your page grief, I guess just adopt troll tactics and ignore her/don't engage online. Or just -- once -- ask her to stop because it's really not how you want to be perceived. You can do this all friendly-like.
Yeah, that's probably what I'm going to have to do, just ignore it. That's what my mom had to do during the election when the same lady kept sending her emails making fun of Obama's Kenyan relatives for their Africanness, and kept it up even after my mom brought up the point that in insulting Obama's relatives on that point, she was also insulting my mom's relatives because my mom has a Nigerian cousin who's story is fairly similar to Obama's except that unlike Obama, my mom's cousin really WAS born in Africa.
/in other words, other than me whining about it, it's pretty hopeless
I have a facebook friend who does little else but promote her holistic complimentary therapy business. I hide her posts.
But if this friend is disrespectfully giving your page grief, I guess just adopt troll tactics and ignore her/don't engage online. Or just -- once -- ask her to stop because it's really not how you want to be perceived. You can do this all friendly-like.
Yeah, that's probably what I'm going to have to do, just ignore it. That's what my mom had to do during the election when the same lady kept sending her emails making fun of Obama's Kenyan relatives for their Africanness, and kept it up even after my mom brought up the point that in insulting Obama's relatives on that point, she was also insulting my mom's relatives because my mom has a Nigerian cousin who's story is fairly similar to Obama's except that unlike Obama, my mom's cousin really WAS born in Africa.
/in other words, other than me whining about it, it's pretty hopeless
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 05:18:42 AM |
Thorak: Lenny_da_Hog: It reads like one because you jumped in halfway through the thread without knowing WTF you were talking about.
You're being awfully hostile for someone who just got caught defending Palin.
Well, if you'd like to believe that, go ahead. Or you can see the truth by searching for "lenny" in this thread and seeing how pro-Palin I might be.
HA!
If not, shoo. I have no time for a personal troll. I'm too busy celebrating.
Me, pro-Palin. Jesus, you don't understand how freakin' funny that would be if you knew anything about my last 20 years in Alaskan politics....
You're being awfully hostile for someone who just got caught defending Palin.
Well, if you'd like to believe that, go ahead. Or you can see the truth by searching for "lenny" in this thread and seeing how pro-Palin I might be.
HA!
If not, shoo. I have no time for a personal troll. I'm too busy celebrating.
Me, pro-Palin. Jesus, you don't understand how freakin' funny that would be if you knew anything about my last 20 years in Alaskan politics....
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 05:20:39 AM |
FishingWithFredo: But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.
When and where did the mainstream media say that?
Rumor: A Michelle Obama Video (new window)
Yeah it was never picked up.
Or are you going to do a bullshiat "Rush doesn't count".
When and where did the mainstream media say that?
Rumor: A Michelle Obama Video (new window)
Yeah it was never picked up.
Or are you going to do a bullshiat "Rush doesn't count".
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 05:20:51 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: Me, pro-Palin. Jesus, you don't understand how freakin' funny that would be if you knew anything about my last 20 years in Alaskan politics....
I think you and I are pretty much in the same boat with her. Neither of us likes her, neither of us thinks she can rub two coherent thoughts together, but neither of us has a problem pointing out when the media has gone too far. As evidenced by that weak ethics complaint on the arctic fox jacket bs.
The fireworks were lovely. soosh didn't make it.
I think you and I are pretty much in the same boat with her. Neither of us likes her, neither of us thinks she can rub two coherent thoughts together, but neither of us has a problem pointing out when the media has gone too far. As evidenced by that weak ethics complaint on the arctic fox jacket bs.
The fireworks were lovely. soosh didn't make it.
| rynthetyn | 2009-07-04 05:24:01 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: Thorak: Lenny_da_Hog: It reads like one because you jumped in halfway through the thread without knowing WTF you were talking about.
You're being awfully hostile for someone who just got caught defending Palin.
Well, if you'd like to believe that, go ahead. Or you can see the truth by searching for "lenny" in this thread and seeing how pro-Palin I might be.
HA!
If not, shoo. I have no time for a personal troll. I'm too busy celebrating.
Me, pro-Palin. Jesus, you don't understand how freakin' funny that would be if you knew anything about my last 20 years in Alaskan politics....
It's hilarious to any of us who've been paying even remote attention to your posts since Palin got picked to run for VP.
You're being awfully hostile for someone who just got caught defending Palin.
Well, if you'd like to believe that, go ahead. Or you can see the truth by searching for "lenny" in this thread and seeing how pro-Palin I might be.
HA!
If not, shoo. I have no time for a personal troll. I'm too busy celebrating.
Me, pro-Palin. Jesus, you don't understand how freakin' funny that would be if you knew anything about my last 20 years in Alaskan politics....
It's hilarious to any of us who've been paying even remote attention to your posts since Palin got picked to run for VP.
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 05:25:00 AM |
FishingWithFredo: When and where did the mainstream media say that?
Here is the video on FOX news.
Waiting for you to admit you wrong (which you never will)
Michelle Obama Whitey Tape Reported on Fox (new window)
Here is the video on FOX news.
Waiting for you to admit you wrong (which you never will)
Michelle Obama Whitey Tape Reported on Fox (new window)
| Hobodeluxe
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2009-07-04 05:27:12 AM |
Corvus: FishingWithFredo: But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.
When and where did the mainstream media say that?
Rumor: A Michelle Obama Video (new window)
Yeah it was never picked up.
Or are you going to do a bullshiat "Rush doesn't count".
How bout Fox News?
or on Fox again?
When and where did the mainstream media say that?
Rumor: A Michelle Obama Video (new window)
Yeah it was never picked up.
Or are you going to do a bullshiat "Rush doesn't count".
How bout Fox News?
or on Fox again?
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 05:28:52 AM |
lstywnch:
I think you and I are pretty much in the same boat with her. Neither of us likes her, neither of us thinks she can rub two coherent thoughts together, but neither of us has a problem pointing out when the media has gone too far. As evidenced by that weak ethics complaint on the arctic fox jacket bs.
The fireworks were lovely. soosh didn't make it.
I really, really wish I were there. Still stuck in OR, where it can be hot and dark at the same time, and it's roasting tonight.
I think you and I are pretty much in the same boat with her. Neither of us likes her, neither of us thinks she can rub two coherent thoughts together, but neither of us has a problem pointing out when the media has gone too far. As evidenced by that weak ethics complaint on the arctic fox jacket bs.
The fireworks were lovely. soosh didn't make it.
I really, really wish I were there. Still stuck in OR, where it can be hot and dark at the same time, and it's roasting tonight.
| Corvus | 2009-07-04 05:29:58 AM |
Hobodeluxe: Corvus: FishingWithFredo: But they did circulate stories about Obama's wife being a white-hating racist.
When and where did the mainstream media say that?
Rumor: A Michelle Obama Video (new window)
Yeah it was never picked up.
Or are you going to do a bullshiat "Rush doesn't count".
How bout Fox News?
or on Fox again?
The hilarious thing is with all the right wing commentators they try to have it both ways. They use them as a source of "facts" but when people point out they lie all the time they say "Well they are just commentators, they don't have to tell the truth."
When and where did the mainstream media say that?
Rumor: A Michelle Obama Video (new window)
Yeah it was never picked up.
Or are you going to do a bullshiat "Rush doesn't count".
How bout Fox News?
or on Fox again?
The hilarious thing is with all the right wing commentators they try to have it both ways. They use them as a source of "facts" but when people point out they lie all the time they say "Well they are just commentators, they don't have to tell the truth."
| VwlssWndr | 2009-07-04 05:30:22 AM |
This is just the requisite martyrdom for the further beatification of Saint Sarah.
Regardless of what the actual reason for her resignation is, it will be blamed on "liberals": the gotcha media, left-wing fear/hatred of The Blessed Mother, or sexism.
If the reason for her resignation has anything to do with illegal activites, the investigations and subsequent precedings will be deemed a "partisan witch hunt."
Palin won't be dropping out of the public eye anytime soon. There are still too many hangers-on who'll defend everything the woman does because they want to have sex with her. She'll be bigger than Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy COMBINED.
Regardless of what the actual reason for her resignation is, it will be blamed on "liberals": the gotcha media, left-wing fear/hatred of The Blessed Mother, or sexism.
If the reason for her resignation has anything to do with illegal activites, the investigations and subsequent precedings will be deemed a "partisan witch hunt."
Palin won't be dropping out of the public eye anytime soon. There are still too many hangers-on who'll defend everything the woman does because they want to have sex with her. She'll be bigger than Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy COMBINED.
| Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin | 2009-07-04 05:33:57 AM |
lstywnch: Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: they are pretty big.
I couldn't find a good pic of the Wasilla sports complex to compare.
Nor could I. Although I am finding the name "Spenard Builders Supply" popping up a lot. This whole building issue is getting very interesting very quickly.
Although I am surprised Palin would resign over any type of scandal. These days it seems like nothing seems to phase politicians and have to be removed kicking and screaming. Ted "the tubes" Stevens is a perfect example.
I couldn't find a good pic of the Wasilla sports complex to compare.
Nor could I. Although I am finding the name "Spenard Builders Supply" popping up a lot. This whole building issue is getting very interesting very quickly.
Although I am surprised Palin would resign over any type of scandal. These days it seems like nothing seems to phase politicians and have to be removed kicking and screaming. Ted "the tubes" Stevens is a perfect example.
| Insolent | 2009-07-04 05:43:31 AM |
Crap, I just ran out of popcorn
| Crocodilly_Pontifex
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2009-07-04 05:48:31 AM |
Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: Ted "the tubes" Stevens is a perfect example.
I find it funny that he was exonerated for prosecutorial misconduct after the election, (thus saying that theres at least a chance he didnt do anything wrong) and this biatch kept her job.
I can see the headline now:
"SARAH PALIN ATTEMPTS SWIM TO RUSSIA FROM HER HOUSE, SAID " ITS NOT THAT FAR, I CAN SEE IT!"
I find it funny that he was exonerated for prosecutorial misconduct after the election, (thus saying that theres at least a chance he didnt do anything wrong) and this biatch kept her job.
I can see the headline now:
"SARAH PALIN ATTEMPTS SWIM TO RUSSIA FROM HER HOUSE, SAID " ITS NOT THAT FAR, I CAN SEE IT!"
| InmanRoshi | 2009-07-04 05:49:44 AM |
rynthetyn 2009-07-04 04:00:19 AM
My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.
Not an unlikely guess on the heals of Vanity Fair article where it was leaked that McCain campaign aids were worried about her mental state and considered the possibility that she suffered from post-partum depression.
Chick is nuts, yo.
My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.
Not an unlikely guess on the heals of Vanity Fair article where it was leaked that McCain campaign aids were worried about her mental state and considered the possibility that she suffered from post-partum depression.
Chick is nuts, yo.
| rynthetyn | 2009-07-04 06:02:32 AM |
InmanRoshi: rynthetyn 2009-07-04 04:00:19 AM
My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.
Not an unlikely guess on the heals of Vanity Fair article where it was leaked that McCain campaign aids were worried about her mental state and considered the possibility that she suffered from post-partum depression.
Chick is nuts, yo.
Reading her speech reminded me of the way that my two nutty aunts write emails when their medicine is off.
Either that or the way I tend to start talking when I'm buzzed on my asthma inhaler.
My initial take when I watched her press conference was that she's just up and lost it. That something snapped, mentally. I think the reason we're all searching for some kind of scandal to explain it is because it was just so incredibly bizarre.
Not an unlikely guess on the heals of Vanity Fair article where it was leaked that McCain campaign aids were worried about her mental state and considered the possibility that she suffered from post-partum depression.
Chick is nuts, yo.
Reading her speech reminded me of the way that my two nutty aunts write emails when their medicine is off.
Either that or the way I tend to start talking when I'm buzzed on my asthma inhaler.
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 06:18:19 AM |
Crocodilly_Pontifex: (thus saying that theres at least a chance he didnt do anything wrong)
That's the absolute wrong conclusion to draw. They had Stevens dead to rights; the odds of him being innocent of the charges leveled are about those that Jack Ruby was the 2nd shooter in Dealy Plaza. The prosecutors just cocked up so badly that the judge had no choice but to throw the whole damn case out.
That's the absolute wrong conclusion to draw. They had Stevens dead to rights; the odds of him being innocent of the charges leveled are about those that Jack Ruby was the 2nd shooter in Dealy Plaza. The prosecutors just cocked up so badly that the judge had no choice but to throw the whole damn case out.
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-04 06:19:57 AM |
| shower_in_my_socks
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2009-07-04 06:30:31 AM |
| sn0r | 2009-07-04 06:32:27 AM |
I personally hope she goes down in flames and during the trial comes up with some 'God made me do it' excuse. The Republican party can then finally have an excuse to disenfranchise themselves from the stupid god loving wingnuts which scare the hell out of the general public.
We need a strong Republican party which adheres to the core values of fiscal responsibility and hands-off government management. A democracy only works well if the people are offered a viable alternative to the current people in power.
We need a strong Republican party which adheres to the core values of fiscal responsibility and hands-off government management. A democracy only works well if the people are offered a viable alternative to the current people in power.
| InmanRoshi | 2009-07-04 06:33:03 AM |
rynthetyn: Reading her speech reminded me of the way that my two nutty aunts write emails when their medicine is off.
Either that or the way I tend to start talking when I'm buzzed on my asthma inhaler.
Listening to her manic, crazed screeds about how the media is out to get her, I can't help but think about how Todd Palin's nightly routine must be just like from Chris Rock's bit from Bigger and Blacker, except replace the word "biatch" with "media".
Fellas, you want your woman to be happy? All you got to say is, 'How was your day?"
'Honey, how was your day?'
Know why? 'Cause "How was your day?" is a -minute conversation to a woman. And as a man, you don't really gotta talk. You gotta just act like you're talking.
"Get out of here !!! Go on! l don't believe it!!! You don't say!! Really? Get out of here!! Go on !! l don't believe it !! You don't say? Get out of here !! I told you that biatch crazy!'
You gotta throw in, "I told you that biatch crazy !!" You know why? 'Cause every woman's got another woman at her job that she can't stand.
Women, y'all exaggerate everything. You turn it into some Dynasty shiat, like: "She's trying to destroy me!"
What the fark are you talking about? You wrap up bags at J.C. Penney's! What's she doing, ripping up your paper?
Either that or the way I tend to start talking when I'm buzzed on my asthma inhaler.
Listening to her manic, crazed screeds about how the media is out to get her, I can't help but think about how Todd Palin's nightly routine must be just like from Chris Rock's bit from Bigger and Blacker, except replace the word "biatch" with "media".
Fellas, you want your woman to be happy? All you got to say is, 'How was your day?"
'Honey, how was your day?'
Know why? 'Cause "How was your day?" is a -minute conversation to a woman. And as a man, you don't really gotta talk. You gotta just act like you're talking.
"Get out of here !!! Go on! l don't believe it!!! You don't say!! Really? Get out of here!! Go on !! l don't believe it !! You don't say? Get out of here !! I told you that biatch crazy!'
You gotta throw in, "I told you that biatch crazy !!" You know why? 'Cause every woman's got another woman at her job that she can't stand.
Women, y'all exaggerate everything. You turn it into some Dynasty shiat, like: "She's trying to destroy me!"
What the fark are you talking about? You wrap up bags at J.C. Penney's! What's she doing, ripping up your paper?
| BalugaJoe | 2009-07-04 06:37:59 AM |
Joe the Plumber stole the money to buy a plumbing business.
| biglot | 2009-07-04 06:38:48 AM |
Sarah Palin = a Radio City Rockette, or somewhere thereabouts.
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-04 06:39:11 AM |
BalugaJoe: Joe the Plumber stole the money to buy a plumbing business.
He needed it to cover the tax increase on those making over $250,000 net. Then someone explained what "net" means.
He needed it to cover the tax increase on those making over $250,000 net. Then someone explained what "net" means.
| RevMercutio
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2009-07-04 06:40:29 AM |
FishingWithFredo: kasmel: The daughter/fiance was human interest. They were cynically used as props by the campaign.
Yeah. Don't you hate when that happens?
Your example is from right after Obama gave his speech accepting the nomination for President.
Palin, on the other hand, brought her kids to a hockey game to drop a puck on the hope that she wouldn't get booed and heckled (which she did).
Yeah. Don't you hate when that happens?
Your example is from right after Obama gave his speech accepting the nomination for President.
Palin, on the other hand, brought her kids to a hockey game to drop a puck on the hope that she wouldn't get booed and heckled (which she did).
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 06:46:45 AM |
sn0r: We need a strong Republicanopposition party which adheres to the core values of fiscal responsibility and hands-off government management. A democracy only works well if the people are offered a viable alternative to the current people in power.
FTFY. We don't need the GOP, they need us. We'll always have a two-party system (or be transitioning back to one), but there's nothing that says that it has to be the GOP.
FTFY. We don't need the GOP, they need us. We'll always have a two-party system (or be transitioning back to one), but there's nothing that says that it has to be the GOP.
| SpyVsSpy | 2009-07-04 06:58:01 AM |
Well, that was an entertaining day.
Just when you thought the conservative circus couldn't shoot itself in the foot even worse--
Thanks you teabaggin', Argentina-bangin', responsibility-quittin' republican moroons. You're better than free cable.
Just when you thought the conservative circus couldn't shoot itself in the foot even worse--
Thanks you teabaggin', Argentina-bangin', responsibility-quittin' republican moroons. You're better than free cable.
| Occam's Chainsaw
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2009-07-04 07:01:15 AM |
Seriously. It's like the first bullet point on the RNC agenda for 2009 was "vigorously test Poe's Law until it breaks".
| Casanova.Frankensteir | 2009-07-04 07:08:07 AM |
RevMercutio: Your example is from right after Obama gave his speech accepting the nomination for President.
Yep. I also recall Obama telling reporters to buzz off when he took Sasha trick-or-treating (new window)
The Obama's kids participated in some campaign events, sure. But it was nowhere near the level of political proppery the Palin kids went through. Track represented Palin Supports The Troops, Trig and Bristol were the Palin Is Adamantly Pro-Life footballs. Piper and Willow didn't specifically symbolize anything that I know of, but they were photogenic and available.
I won't go as far as some and say this means Palin is a bad mom - hell, Piper found out there was a whole world outside of Alaska simultaneously with her own mother, and at a much younger age. I think that was probably great for her.
But if we're comparing the Obamas vs the Palins on the deliberate use of their kids as political tools, it's not much of a contest.
Yep. I also recall Obama telling reporters to buzz off when he took Sasha trick-or-treating (new window)
The Obama's kids participated in some campaign events, sure. But it was nowhere near the level of political proppery the Palin kids went through. Track represented Palin Supports The Troops, Trig and Bristol were the Palin Is Adamantly Pro-Life footballs. Piper and Willow didn't specifically symbolize anything that I know of, but they were photogenic and available.
I won't go as far as some and say this means Palin is a bad mom - hell, Piper found out there was a whole world outside of Alaska simultaneously with her own mother, and at a much younger age. I think that was probably great for her.
But if we're comparing the Obamas vs the Palins on the deliberate use of their kids as political tools, it's not much of a contest.
| Gulper Eel
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2009-07-04 07:24:59 AM |
So she starts out as "normal person goes into bigtime politics", and ends up as...John Rowland?
Maybe this Parnell guy has his shiat together.
Maybe this Parnell guy has his shiat together.
| Tor_Eckman
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2009-07-04 07:34:23 AM |
For a second there I thought Fredo had posted under the wrong alt when he so clearly recognized what an epic crash and burn this is for Palin.
But he almost immediately reverted back to the cognitive dissonance we've all come to expect from him and all the other idiot Fox-watchers here on Fark. I especially liked the weird tangent about Palin's superb performance in a debate where she announced that she wasn't going to answer the questions she was being asked by the moderator. That was one for the ages.
Meanwhile, the rest of you knuckleheads here (Cchris, Muck, Random, and especially Canis) and on Fox keep trying to make a silk purse out of this nasty, dirty, stinky sow's ear. We will find out soon enough what this is all about. And then we can all have a good laugh.
But he almost immediately reverted back to the cognitive dissonance we've all come to expect from him and all the other idiot Fox-watchers here on Fark. I especially liked the weird tangent about Palin's superb performance in a debate where she announced that she wasn't going to answer the questions she was being asked by the moderator. That was one for the ages.
Meanwhile, the rest of you knuckleheads here (Cchris, Muck, Random, and especially Canis) and on Fox keep trying to make a silk purse out of this nasty, dirty, stinky sow's ear. We will find out soon enough what this is all about. And then we can all have a good laugh.
| vomitsmuggler | 2009-07-04 07:44:44 AM |
It's like putting your dick in a freezer burnt moose cassarole
| sn0r | 2009-07-04 07:48:58 AM |
Occam's Chainsaw: FTFY. We don't need the GOP, they need us. We'll always have a two-party system (or be transitioning back to one), but there's nothing that says that it has to be the GOP.
Good point, though it'll be hard to set something up from scratch.
Good point, though it'll be hard to set something up from scratch.
| museisluse | 2009-07-04 08:06:31 AM |
I am not a Palin fan, but I will not get over the top upset about "almost a half a million dollar contract", "people with connections getting a contract" and "oops, it fell off a truck", "the doors and windows are the same". Her opposition doesn't like her [no surprise] and her own party in Alaska doesn't like her because she went after dirty republicans [surprise].
On the national level, Rangel, Franks, Murtha, Dodd etc., are STILL on the national scene. Where is the outrage?!?
On the national level, Rangel, Franks, Murtha, Dodd etc., are STILL on the national scene. Where is the outrage?!?
| Tor_Eckman
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2009-07-04 08:14:10 AM |
museisluse: I am not a Palin fan, but I will not get over the top upset about "almost a half a million dollar contract", "people with connections getting a contract" and "oops, it fell off a truck", "the doors and windows are the same". Her opposition doesn't like her [no surprise] and her own party in Alaska doesn't like her because she went after dirty republicans [surprise].
On the national level, Rangel, Franks, Murtha, Dodd etc., are STILL on the national scene. Where is the outrage?!?
I haven't seen any "outrage" over this little bit of speculation. But when you abruptly resign your governorship on a Friday before a holiday with what appears to be a hastily (and poorly) written speech, people will speculate.
It's really quite like what happened when she was picked as McCain's VP. They trotted her out, she gave a speech that they admitted was written for someone else, then sequestered her. So the rest of us were left to try and figure out wtf just happened. As you might recall, there was a pretty good amount of speculation about her and her family after that little dog and pony show too.
On the national level, Rangel, Franks, Murtha, Dodd etc., are STILL on the national scene. Where is the outrage?!?
I haven't seen any "outrage" over this little bit of speculation. But when you abruptly resign your governorship on a Friday before a holiday with what appears to be a hastily (and poorly) written speech, people will speculate.
It's really quite like what happened when she was picked as McCain's VP. They trotted her out, she gave a speech that they admitted was written for someone else, then sequestered her. So the rest of us were left to try and figure out wtf just happened. As you might recall, there was a pretty good amount of speculation about her and her family after that little dog and pony show too.
| Jimmy Devil Rocket Science | 2009-07-04 08:20:34 AM |
GitOffaMyLawn: At first I thought that the image was gimped, so I went back and looked at the video.
If it's gimped, then it's a reasonably good job.
/ Am not a graphics person
// has not done gimp hackery
/// does not have a copy of Photoshop
I do have a copy of Photoshop, but I did not alter that image in any way. It is what it is.
If it's gimped, then it's a reasonably good job.
/ Am not a graphics person
// has not done gimp hackery
/// does not have a copy of Photoshop
I do have a copy of Photoshop, but I did not alter that image in any way. It is what it is.
| Bigger Leftist Intarweb Schlong | 2009-07-04 08:28:47 AM |
dahmers love zombie: ragekage: John Dewey: Only Sarah Palin could get 100+ comments before hitting the main page.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
Holy shiat, you win a million internets.
I actually choked on my bagel while reading this. There ought to be a warning on this post.
The Caturday thread is well on it's way.
Not sure what comparison you want to draw from that.
Threads focusing on illiterate pussy tend to be really active?
Holy shiat, you win a million internets.
I actually choked on my bagel while reading this. There ought to be a warning on this post.
| immrlizard | 2009-07-04 08:29:06 AM |
| T-Boy | 2009-07-04 08:42:26 AM |
Who else is putting in a pre-order for "Nailin' Palin 2: Women's Prison."
| Gulper Eel
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2009-07-04 08:42:57 AM |
museisluse: On the national level, Rangel, Franks, Murtha, Dodd etc., are STILL on the national scene. Where is the outrage?!?
Doesn't matter. If she's corrupt she needs to go even if the far more corrupt dirtballs you mention never suffer any consequences.
If that means prison, so be it. The max. Seal the farking vault.
At this point, with as much money as there is rolling into and out of DC, it's safest to assume they are all on the take until they repeatedly and regularly prove otherwise.
Doesn't matter. If she's corrupt she needs to go even if the far more corrupt dirtballs you mention never suffer any consequences.
If that means prison, so be it. The max. Seal the farking vault.
At this point, with as much money as there is rolling into and out of DC, it's safest to assume they are all on the take until they repeatedly and regularly prove otherwise.
| immrlizard | 2009-07-04 08:47:21 AM |
dorko16: Might anyone have a link to the old Palin/Biden photoshop thread? The google does nothing.
Now with more meaning
Now with more meaning
| chrismac | 2009-07-04 08:51:35 AM |
FishingWithFredo: If you want the equivalent of Palin put on Obama, first when he announced his presidential run Obama:
1. Should have been given an immediate quiz on his feelings on Uzbekistan.
Naturally. Because this is the equivalent to such hard hitting topics as "What do you read?"
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
When was this ever in the mainstream media? And how is this any different than the constant accusations that he is a Kenyan Muslim?
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
Sarah Palin goes to great lengths to force her bizarre "abstinence only" beliefs into public policy. Her daughter ended up pregnant at 17.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
First, Obama did get a healthy dose of the "unqualified" treatment from the media. Second, Sarah Palin was governor of a state with a population on par with Columbus Ohio for not even two years before being tapped for VP. She wasn't experienced. At all.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
There's a difference between being caught off-guard by technical difficulty and a complete and total ignorance of every aspect of the job you're campaigning for. Palin pretended in front of a national audience that she played a part of US-Russian relations every time Vladimir Putin "rears his head." I mean, that's what I think she was saying since she fell to pieces talking to Katie Couric. This is who the GOP wanted to lead them, somebody who couldn't maintain her composure while talking to a vapid network news anchor.
Then you'd be getting warm.
/Palin is toast
//Don't like Palin
///The media was unfair to her, her family, McCain and Hillary Clinton, because they had an agenda.
////Mission Accomplished!
Sarah Barracuda, the mavericky bulldog with lipstick wasn't tough enough to deal with the standard media treatment. Good thing she didn't get elected to anything important.
1. Should have been given an immediate quiz on his feelings on Uzbekistan.
Naturally. Because this is the equivalent to such hard hitting topics as "What do you read?"
2. Had stories on how Sasha and Malia may not even be his kids -- in the mainstream media; not some obscure Freep-like site.
When was this ever in the mainstream media? And how is this any different than the constant accusations that he is a Kenyan Muslim?
3.Have stories on how Sasha and/or Malia are the class slut in their elementary school. And then do mainstream media stories on the kid in class who's banging Sasha.
Sarah Palin goes to great lengths to force her bizarre "abstinence only" beliefs into public policy. Her daughter ended up pregnant at 17.
4. Have endless stories on how unqualified Obama is because he's never run a business, a city, a state. Daily stories. Non-stop stories.
First, Obama did get a healthy dose of the "unqualified" treatment from the media. Second, Sarah Palin was governor of a state with a population on par with Columbus Ohio for not even two years before being tapped for VP. She wasn't experienced. At all.
5. Have his intelligence questioned endlessly for the times he sounded dumb when his teleprompter stopped working correctly. Or when he "uuhhhhed" his way through an interminable sentence.
There's a difference between being caught off-guard by technical difficulty and a complete and total ignorance of every aspect of the job you're campaigning for. Palin pretended in front of a national audience that she played a part of US-Russian relations every time Vladimir Putin "rears his head." I mean, that's what I think she was saying since she fell to pieces talking to Katie Couric. This is who the GOP wanted to lead them, somebody who couldn't maintain her composure while talking to a vapid network news anchor.
Then you'd be getting warm.
/Palin is toast
//Don't like Palin
///The media was unfair to her, her family, McCain and Hillary Clinton, because they had an agenda.
////Mission Accomplished!
Sarah Barracuda, the mavericky bulldog with lipstick wasn't tough enough to deal with the standard media treatment. Good thing she didn't get elected to anything important.
| jules_siegel | 2009-07-04 08:57:03 AM |
Jakevol2: lstywnch: wejash: belonging in inernment camps.
I miss skookum
A moment of silence. please
The greatest troll of all time.
I miss skookum
A moment of silence. please
The greatest troll of all time.
| damageddude
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2009-07-04 08:57:40 AM |
| chipspastic | 2009-07-04 09:22:57 AM |
jules_siegel: Jakevol2: lstywnch: wejash: belonging in inernment camps.
I miss skookum
A moment of silence. please
The greatest troll of all time.
Wait! skookum was a troll?!?!
I miss skookum
A moment of silence. please
The greatest troll of all time.
Wait! skookum was a troll?!?!
| Podna | 2009-07-04 09:24:45 AM |
Occam's Chainsaw: Mordant: they get so used to projecting themselves as victims that they actually start to believe it.
The last decade or so has been a constant cycle of the GOP manufacturing shiny new lies, then eventually buying into their own lie. It's like watching an Ouroboros eat itself, except the Ouroboros doesn't take everything else with it in the process.
When do you think global saturation will be complete?
The last decade or so has been a constant cycle of the GOP manufacturing shiny new lies, then eventually buying into their own lie. It's like watching an Ouroboros eat itself, except the Ouroboros doesn't take everything else with it in the process.
When do you think global saturation will be complete?
| todangst | 2009-07-04 09:25:59 AM |
excuse me, but where are all the folks who keep telling me that the democrats are 'angry' with palin, because we're afraid of her..... where'd you all go?
| todangst | 2009-07-04 09:37:11 AM |
SilentStrider: dorko16: Might anyone have a link to the old Palin/Biden photoshop thread? The google does nothing.
here you go (new window)
from that thread:
here you go (new window)
from that thread:
| Podna | 2009-07-04 09:37:21 AM |
GratuityIncluded: More pointedly, you're a bigot if you don't give her the chance to prove it. On what basis do you confine her? Media??? Be open. Zealot. That type of behavior is evil and wrong. You'll be shown to be wrong when time rolls on.
yes cause if time has shown us anything conservatives are usually in the right.....
yes cause if time has shown us anything conservatives are usually in the right.....
| Salt Lick Steady | 2009-07-04 09:39:29 AM |
todangst: excuse me, but where are all the folks who keep telling me that the democrats are 'angry' with palin, because we're afraid of her..... where'd you all go?
No. Get it right. You hate her because you're afraid of her.
No. Get it right. You hate her because you're afraid of her.
| AnnoyingKidNextDoor | 2009-07-04 09:43:36 AM |
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 09:51:23 AM |
FishingWithFredo: detfrost1: Asking someone what farking magazines they read, and they can't even farking read one is a hit job!?
Palin had figured out that Couric wasn't there to do an impartial interview, and was there to play "Gotcha!" on behalf of the political party she works for.
Palin wasn't experienced enough, however, to just get up and walk out of the interview; instead she shut down, and it came off looking bad.
There was also selective editing of the interview to make her look more extreme and less informed.
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
What the fark is the Bush Doctrine? Charles Krauthammer said it changed four times, and Charlie Gibson's reference wasn't the most up-to-date one. Krauthammer's only the one who invented the term and first discussed the Bush Doctrine, and is only about 1,052 times smarter than you or me.
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Right. You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
ALL she had to say regarding the Bush Doctrine, (incidentally ANY president has a "Doctrine" when they are done with office, go back to 9th grade history)....was
PREEMPTIVE STRIKES TO AVOID TERROR ON OUR HOME SOIL it wouldn't have been 100% accurate, or a complete answer, but she would have gotten a farking pass for just saying that.
She couldn't even come up with that!
Palin had figured out that Couric wasn't there to do an impartial interview, and was there to play "Gotcha!" on behalf of the political party she works for.
Palin wasn't experienced enough, however, to just get up and walk out of the interview; instead she shut down, and it came off looking bad.
There was also selective editing of the interview to make her look more extreme and less informed.
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
What the fark is the Bush Doctrine? Charles Krauthammer said it changed four times, and Charlie Gibson's reference wasn't the most up-to-date one. Krauthammer's only the one who invented the term and first discussed the Bush Doctrine, and is only about 1,052 times smarter than you or me.
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Right. You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
ALL she had to say regarding the Bush Doctrine, (incidentally ANY president has a "Doctrine" when they are done with office, go back to 9th grade history)....was
PREEMPTIVE STRIKES TO AVOID TERROR ON OUR HOME SOIL it wouldn't have been 100% accurate, or a complete answer, but she would have gotten a farking pass for just saying that.
She couldn't even come up with that!
| detfrost1
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2009-07-04 09:55:16 AM |
SpyVsSpy: If you can find endless footage of Obama answering a question with a sentence that never ends, goes off on bizarre tangents, and makes no sense whatsoever at the end--and he does this as often as she did-- we'll get back to you.
Very good post SpyvsSpy
Very good post SpyvsSpy
| todangst | 2009-07-04 10:01:12 AM |
Salt Lick Steady: todangst: excuse me, but where are all the folks who keep telling me that the democrats are 'angry' with palin, because we're afraid of her..... where'd you all go?
No. Get it right. You hate her because you're afraid of her.
Um., that's what I just said.
No. Get it right. You hate her because you're afraid of her.
Um., that's what I just said.
| todangst | 2009-07-04 10:03:30 AM |
oops - angry/hate.....
| jules_siegel | 2009-07-04 10:04:09 AM |
todangst: No. Get it right. You hate her because you're afraid of her.
Um., that's what I just said.
Anger is not the same as hate.
Um., that's what I just said.
Anger is not the same as hate.
| Bob16 | 2009-07-04 10:06:50 AM |
When she takes her clothes off those tits hit the ground.
"No, no. Don't let them out." Walter Matthau in A New Leaf
"No, no. Don't let them out." Walter Matthau in A New Leaf
| Thorndyke Barnhard | 2009-07-04 10:20:53 AM |
I can't seem to interpret this resignation of Palin's as "sudden" like alot of others around here.
Considering how much of a train wreck she's been for her party, for McCain, for her family, for herself the only thing that surprises me is that she waited this frigging long.
Considering how much of a train wreck she's been for her party, for McCain, for her family, for herself the only thing that surprises me is that she waited this frigging long.
| CrawlingKingSnake | 2009-07-04 10:22:20 AM |
You might say, her term as governor has been...aborted?
| jcooli09 | 2009-07-04 10:30:22 AM |
Wake me when a credible source has this story
| brigid_fitch
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2009-07-04 10:32:41 AM |
jcooli09: Wake me when a credible source has this story
What story? That she resigned? Here's a link to her resignation speech:
Link (new window)
What story? That she resigned? Here's a link to her resignation speech:
Link (new window)
| AgeOfReason | 2009-07-04 10:32:53 AM |
elchip: GAT_00: Oh, that is hilarious.
Not as hilarious as
\from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
Damn A-Rod!
Not as hilarious as
\from Jimmy Devil Rocket Science in the previous thread
Damn A-Rod!
| Steve Zodiac | 2009-07-04 10:36:54 AM |
Thorndyke Barnhard: I can't seem to interpret this resignation of Palin's as "sudden" like alot of others around here.
Considering how much of a train wreck she's been for her party, for McCain, for her family, for herself the only thing that surprises me is that she waited this frigging long.
It's sudden as in no one saw it coming. Neither her supporters or her detractors were dropping hints that 'something big' was on it's way concerning Palin. The rumor that there are Federal charges seems weak to me, as usually someone leaks this type of information to the press no matter how tight they try to keep a cover on it. But there hasn't been any creditable rumors floating around about a Palin Federal investigation. I am sure there have been some blogs about it, but there are nutcase blogs on both sides of the political aisle. No one with a good track record was saying anything was about to happen, so that's why it's 'sudden'.
Considering how much of a train wreck she's been for her party, for McCain, for her family, for herself the only thing that surprises me is that she waited this frigging long.
It's sudden as in no one saw it coming. Neither her supporters or her detractors were dropping hints that 'something big' was on it's way concerning Palin. The rumor that there are Federal charges seems weak to me, as usually someone leaks this type of information to the press no matter how tight they try to keep a cover on it. But there hasn't been any creditable rumors floating around about a Palin Federal investigation. I am sure there have been some blogs about it, but there are nutcase blogs on both sides of the political aisle. No one with a good track record was saying anything was about to happen, so that's why it's 'sudden'.
| FeedTheCollapse | 2009-07-04 10:48:23 AM |
brigid_fitch: jcooli09: Wake me when a credible source has this story
What story? That she resigned? Here's a link to her resignation speech:
Link (new window)
Jesus, the transcript was painful to read, but it was even worse coming out of someone very obviously pissed. The transcript at least seemed like they were aiming for playful, but pointed... but watching it, you could practically see the bile spewing out of her mouth.
What story? That she resigned? Here's a link to her resignation speech:
Link (new window)
Jesus, the transcript was painful to read, but it was even worse coming out of someone very obviously pissed. The transcript at least seemed like they were aiming for playful, but pointed... but watching it, you could practically see the bile spewing out of her mouth.
| GQueue | 2009-07-04 10:50:05 AM |
elchip: "Wonder if Barry found some damning dirt on her. All the potential 2012 candidates for the GOP have been dropping like flies lately. Chicago thug politics at work."
Freepers don't think very much. You have to think "who benefits" and it isn't Obama, it's the Republican contenders for 2012, and the party brand as a whole since the people going down have been vocal morons. While these folks still had loud voices, it was going to be hard to get everyone other then the right-wing moron base to take the party seriously. They're not winning until they can bring the independents back. Palin and Sanford would drive them away.
Freepers don't think very much. You have to think "who benefits" and it isn't Obama, it's the Republican contenders for 2012, and the party brand as a whole since the people going down have been vocal morons. While these folks still had loud voices, it was going to be hard to get everyone other then the right-wing moron base to take the party seriously. They're not winning until they can bring the independents back. Palin and Sanford would drive them away.
| The Only Good Moran | 2009-07-04 10:50:30 AM |
I have to say it was quite entertaining to see FishingWithFredo go out of his way to say he hates Palin all the while defendinf her like he always does, as a complete and innocent victim undeserving of any criticism whatsoever.
"I don't like her, she's just my queen that I worship".
"I don't like her, she's just my queen that I worship".
| senator_mendoza | 2009-07-04 10:56:31 AM |
i love all the complaints about a double standard as if a double standard wouldn't be entirely justifiable when comparing someone who needed 5 colleges in 6 years for a journalism degree against the prez of the harvard law review. we're talking about completely different calibers of people here.
| todangst | 2009-07-04 11:03:06 AM |
jules_siegel: todangst: No. Get it right. You hate her because you're afraid of her.
Um., that's what I just said.
Anger is not the same as hate.
already corrected it, and it was never made clear that 'hate' was the operative word here....
Um., that's what I just said.
Anger is not the same as hate.
already corrected it, and it was never made clear that 'hate' was the operative word here....
| CanisNoir
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2009-07-04 11:03:25 AM |
brigid_fitch: What story? That she resigned? Here's a link to her resignation speech:
I'm pretty sure they were referring to the baseless speculation that is the article linked. Nobody knows why she resigned and it was a shock to most people, so speculation is rampant. Those who support her knee-jerked into the "OMFG She's running in 2012" (myself included) and those who dislike her knee-jerked into the "OMFG SCANDAL!" corner. It was bound to happen.
As many have pointed out, this *could* be a bid for 2012 but that's fairly unlikely. This *could* be about a scandal, but that too is highly unlikely; resigning this soon before hand only draws attention to it, not help in burying it.
The most likely scenario is, as someone wiser than myself pointed out, that she's taking the Nixon route. She will sit out 2012 and instead work on other campaigns, do fund raisers for the party, travel around and collect some political favors while building contacts and getting the National Experience she truly needs to mount a successful campaign.
2016 is the far more likely date that we'll see Palin come out strong nationally imho. She's probably gambling correctly that Obama is going to be very hard to beat in 2012 so it's better to go below the radar and build strength, let other Republicans try to hammer Obama, and if, by chance, a Republican wins in 2016, she's young enough to make a viable shot at 2020 and beyond.
She's not done politically imho, but we won't be seeing much of her until shortly before Primaries where she'll just be a prominent keynote speaker for people.
I'm pretty sure they were referring to the baseless speculation that is the article linked. Nobody knows why she resigned and it was a shock to most people, so speculation is rampant. Those who support her knee-jerked into the "OMFG She's running in 2012" (myself included) and those who dislike her knee-jerked into the "OMFG SCANDAL!" corner. It was bound to happen.
As many have pointed out, this *could* be a bid for 2012 but that's fairly unlikely. This *could* be about a scandal, but that too is highly unlikely; resigning this soon before hand only draws attention to it, not help in burying it.
The most likely scenario is, as someone wiser than myself pointed out, that she's taking the Nixon route. She will sit out 2012 and instead work on other campaigns, do fund raisers for the party, travel around and collect some political favors while building contacts and getting the National Experience she truly needs to mount a successful campaign.
2016 is the far more likely date that we'll see Palin come out strong nationally imho. She's probably gambling correctly that Obama is going to be very hard to beat in 2012 so it's better to go below the radar and build strength, let other Republicans try to hammer Obama, and if, by chance, a Republican wins in 2016, she's young enough to make a viable shot at 2020 and beyond.
She's not done politically imho, but we won't be seeing much of her until shortly before Primaries where she'll just be a prominent keynote speaker for people.
| CanisNoir
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2009-07-04 11:07:49 AM |
senator_mendoza: i love all the complaints about a double standard as if a double standard wouldn't be entirely justifiable when comparing someone who needed 5 colleges in 6 years for a journalism degree against the prez of the harvard law review. we're talking about completely different calibers of people here.
Yea, because we know only the truly worthy people are those with enough money and 'contacts' to get into the "right" schools no?
Judging a persons capacity for intellect based only upon their choice of schooling and desired profession not only makes you an elitist prick who feels duty bound to be lead by your "betters", but an ignorant one at that. (Though one could say they are one in the same).
/Your Harvard Law Review President sure seems comfortable violating the spirit of the Constitution though so he's got that going for him.
Yea, because we know only the truly worthy people are those with enough money and 'contacts' to get into the "right" schools no?
Judging a persons capacity for intellect based only upon their choice of schooling and desired profession not only makes you an elitist prick who feels duty bound to be lead by your "betters", but an ignorant one at that. (Though one could say they are one in the same).
/Your Harvard Law Review President sure seems comfortable violating the spirit of the Constitution though so he's got that going for him.
| Bender The Offender | 2009-07-04 11:07:57 AM |
chipspastic: jules_siegel: Jakevol2: lstywnch: wejash: belonging in inernment camps.
I miss skookum
A moment of silence. please
The greatest troll of all time.
Wait! skookum was a troll?!?!
Skookum is whidbey's alt, I recall the thread when he accidentally outed himself. I'm pretty sure libbynomore2 is danlpoon (I believe he got mixed up on his posting accts while "traveling" and outed himself.
I miss skookum
A moment of silence. please
The greatest troll of all time.
Wait! skookum was a troll?!?!
Skookum is whidbey's alt, I recall the thread when he accidentally outed himself. I'm pretty sure libbynomore2 is danlpoon (I believe he got mixed up on his posting accts while "traveling" and outed himself.
| brigid_fitch
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2009-07-04 11:09:06 AM |
FeedTheCollapse: brigid_fitch: jcooli09: Wake me when a credible source has this story
What story? That she resigned? Here's a link to her resignation speech:
Link (new window)
Jesus, the transcript was painful to read, but it was even worse coming out of someone very obviously pissed. The transcript at least seemed like they were aiming for playful, but pointed... but watching it, you could practically see the bile spewing out of her mouth.
Yeah, something must have happened. I read that she was talking to an AK legislator on Wed. about enacting some sort of abortion restriction and then 2 days later she announces she's quitting?
There are rumors about some fishy relationship w/a builder who may have built their house as well as a multi-million dollar sports complex in Wasilla when she was mayor, but they're just rumors right now.
It could just be that she's gearing up for the 2012 election. By leaving AK, she can concentrate on that & won't lose a day traveling to key states. However, that doesn't explain the hastily-called press conference that you watched, or why she's so obviously pissed.
But you have to love the wild animal noises in the background. :)
What story? That she resigned? Here's a link to her resignation speech:
Link (new window)
Jesus, the transcript was painful to read, but it was even worse coming out of someone very obviously pissed. The transcript at least seemed like they were aiming for playful, but pointed... but watching it, you could practically see the bile spewing out of her mouth.
Yeah, something must have happened. I read that she was talking to an AK legislator on Wed. about enacting some sort of abortion restriction and then 2 days later she announces she's quitting?
There are rumors about some fishy relationship w/a builder who may have built their house as well as a multi-million dollar sports complex in Wasilla when she was mayor, but they're just rumors right now.
It could just be that she's gearing up for the 2012 election. By leaving AK, she can concentrate on that & won't lose a day traveling to key states. However, that doesn't explain the hastily-called press conference that you watched, or why she's so obviously pissed.
But you have to love the wild animal noises in the background. :)
| Steve Zodiac | 2009-07-04 11:10:59 AM |
The Only Good Moran: I have to say it was quite entertaining to see FishingWithFredo go out of his way to say he hates Palin all the while defendinf her like he always does, as a complete and innocent victim undeserving of any criticism whatsoever.
"I don't like her, she's just my queen that I worship".
If the MSM, none of which have an army, navy, airforce, covert forces, intelligence service or secret police to direct campaigns against her or her state is capable of driving her from office, how is she supposed to stand up to Russia (I know, she can see it), China and all the other nations which might find it convenient to use all of the above services against her? Because that could include leaking bad or stupid things about her and her government to the MSM. And they already know that that hurts her feelings and makes her quit.
"I don't like her, she's just my queen that I worship".
If the MSM, none of which have an army, navy, airforce, covert forces, intelligence service or secret police to direct campaigns against her or her state is capable of driving her from office, how is she supposed to stand up to Russia (I know, she can see it), China and all the other nations which might find it convenient to use all of the above services against her? Because that could include leaking bad or stupid things about her and her government to the MSM. And they already know that that hurts her feelings and makes her quit.
| chipspastic | 2009-07-04 11:11:42 AM |
Bender The Offender: chipspastic: Wait! skookum was a troll?!?!
Skookum is whidbey's alt, I recall the thread when he accidentally outed himself. I'm pretty sure libbynomore2 is danlpoon (I believe he got mixed up on his posting accts while "traveling" and outed himself.
Thanks...I guess. As a token of my appreciation, let me bestow upon you this gift of a new sarcasm detector:
Skookum is whidbey's alt, I recall the thread when he accidentally outed himself. I'm pretty sure libbynomore2 is danlpoon (I believe he got mixed up on his posting accts while "traveling" and outed himself.
Thanks...I guess. As a token of my appreciation, let me bestow upon you this gift of a new sarcasm detector:
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 11:11:58 AM |
CanisNoir: Those who support her knee-jerked into the "OMFG She's running in 2012" (myself included) and those who dislike her knee-jerked into the "OMFG SCANDAL!" corner. It was bound to happen.
I find it so difficult to understand why you support her. I can't see anything about her that inspires confidence, and the resignation speech itself seems ... well, I can't say it's her finest hour.
Honestly, I'm not trying to troll or anything. I respect your opinions, but your support of her I simply do not get. Yes, I can see she energises the base -- but I see that as a rather different point: supporting someone who is useful, rather than someone whose views coincide with your own.
I find it so difficult to understand why you support her. I can't see anything about her that inspires confidence, and the resignation speech itself seems ... well, I can't say it's her finest hour.
Honestly, I'm not trying to troll or anything. I respect your opinions, but your support of her I simply do not get. Yes, I can see she energises the base -- but I see that as a rather different point: supporting someone who is useful, rather than someone whose views coincide with your own.
| Tor_Eckman
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2009-07-04 11:13:53 AM |
CanisNoir: brigid_fitch: What story? That she resigned? Here's a link to her resignation speech:
I'm pretty sure they were referring to the baseless speculation that is the article linked. Nobody knows why she resigned and it was a shock to most people, so speculation is rampant. Those who support her knee-jerked into the "OMFG She's running in 2012" (myself included) and those who dislike her knee-jerked into the "OMFG SCANDAL!" corner. It was bound to happen.
As many have pointed out, this *could* be a bid for 2012 but that's fairly unlikely. This *could* be about a scandal, but that too is highly unlikely; resigning this soon before hand only draws attention to it, not help in burying it.
The most likely scenario is, as someone wiser than myself pointed out, that she's taking the Nixon route. She will sit out 2012 and instead work on other campaigns, do fund raisers for the party, travel around and collect some political favors while building contacts and getting the National Experience she truly needs to mount a successful campaign.
2016 is the far more likely date that we'll see Palin come out strong nationally imho. She's probably gambling correctly that Obama is going to be very hard to beat in 2012 so it's better to go below the radar and build strength, let other Republicans try to hammer Obama, and if, by chance, a Republican wins in 2016, she's young enough to make a viable shot at 2020 and beyond.
She's not done politically imho, but we won't be seeing much of her until shortly before Primaries where she'll just be a prominent keynote speaker for people.
It didn't take you very long to go from denial to bargaining.
I actually think you are in the first stages of depression. My guess is you will be out of by the time the Repubs take another beating in 2010 and finally accept that the object of your unrequited puppy-dog love is Fertig! Verfallen! Verlumpt! Verblunget! Verkackt!
I'm pretty sure they were referring to the baseless speculation that is the article linked. Nobody knows why she resigned and it was a shock to most people, so speculation is rampant. Those who support her knee-jerked into the "OMFG She's running in 2012" (myself included) and those who dislike her knee-jerked into the "OMFG SCANDAL!" corner. It was bound to happen.
As many have pointed out, this *could* be a bid for 2012 but that's fairly unlikely. This *could* be about a scandal, but that too is highly unlikely; resigning this soon before hand only draws attention to it, not help in burying it.
The most likely scenario is, as someone wiser than myself pointed out, that she's taking the Nixon route. She will sit out 2012 and instead work on other campaigns, do fund raisers for the party, travel around and collect some political favors while building contacts and getting the National Experience she truly needs to mount a successful campaign.
2016 is the far more likely date that we'll see Palin come out strong nationally imho. She's probably gambling correctly that Obama is going to be very hard to beat in 2012 so it's better to go below the radar and build strength, let other Republicans try to hammer Obama, and if, by chance, a Republican wins in 2016, she's young enough to make a viable shot at 2020 and beyond.
She's not done politically imho, but we won't be seeing much of her until shortly before Primaries where she'll just be a prominent keynote speaker for people.
It didn't take you very long to go from denial to bargaining.
I actually think you are in the first stages of depression. My guess is you will be out of by the time the Repubs take another beating in 2010 and finally accept that the object of your unrequited puppy-dog love is Fertig! Verfallen! Verlumpt! Verblunget! Verkackt!
| brigid_fitch
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2009-07-04 11:14:47 AM |
CanisNoir: I'm pretty sure they were referring to the baseless speculation that is the article linked.
Ah, thank you. Yes, I know rumors & speculation are flying right now and I'm pretty much in the "OMG SCANDAL" camp. It's just too odd to call a press conference about this so quickly that only a handful of journalists can actually make it. It also doesn't explain why she looks so pissed during it.
But if she does plan to fly under the radar as you suggest, that would be pretty interesting to see. I honestly don't think she can. Her supporters are too vocal and, quite frankly, I really don't think she's smart enough to keep her mouth shut for that long. And by quitting 2 years before her term is up, that leaves her with even LESS qualifications for president.
Again, should be interesting to see how this unfolds.
Ah, thank you. Yes, I know rumors & speculation are flying right now and I'm pretty much in the "OMG SCANDAL" camp. It's just too odd to call a press conference about this so quickly that only a handful of journalists can actually make it. It also doesn't explain why she looks so pissed during it.
But if she does plan to fly under the radar as you suggest, that would be pretty interesting to see. I honestly don't think she can. Her supporters are too vocal and, quite frankly, I really don't think she's smart enough to keep her mouth shut for that long. And by quitting 2 years before her term is up, that leaves her with even LESS qualifications for president.
Again, should be interesting to see how this unfolds.
| ramblemn | 2009-07-04 11:27:42 AM |
St_Francis_P: deadapostle: St_Francis_P: 2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
It very well might be. It does explain the snappy resignation.
Correlation .....
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
It very well might be. It does explain the snappy resignation.
Correlation .....
| Steve Zodiac | 2009-07-04 11:28:09 AM |
brigid_fitch: Ah, thank you. Yes, I know rumors & speculation are flying right now and I'm pretty much in the "OMG SCANDAL" camp. It's just too odd to call a press conference about this so quickly that only a handful of journalists can actually make it. It also doesn't explain why she looks so pissed during it.
I don't like Palin, but I also don't like baseless rumors. IF there is something substantial to the scandal rumors then nothing has made it to semi-reputable news sources yet. Of course, MJ having died seems to have bumped almost everything else off of news services, so that may be part of the problem. But until there is some evidence to back up the claims, I won't believe them.
And she was largely the reason I voted against McCain, so I don't have any reason to support her.
I don't like Palin, but I also don't like baseless rumors. IF there is something substantial to the scandal rumors then nothing has made it to semi-reputable news sources yet. Of course, MJ having died seems to have bumped almost everything else off of news services, so that may be part of the problem. But until there is some evidence to back up the claims, I won't believe them.
And she was largely the reason I voted against McCain, so I don't have any reason to support her.
| ghare | 2009-07-04 11:28:38 AM |
Damn, I had some sort of sex scandal (someone in her family) in the pool. PLain ol' embezzlement, graft, and coverups? Bo-ring.
| The Only Good Moran | 2009-07-04 11:30:23 AM |
CanisNoir: senator_mendoza: i love all the complaints about a double standard as if a double standard wouldn't be entirely justifiable when comparing someone who needed 5 colleges in 6 years for a journalism degree against the prez of the harvard law review. we're talking about completely different calibers of people here.
Yea, because we know only the truly worthy people are those with enough money and 'contacts' to get into the "right" schools no?
Judging a persons capacity for intellect based only upon their choice of schooling and desired profession not only makes you an elitist prick who feels duty bound to be lead by your "betters", but an ignorant one at that. (Though one could say they are one in the same).
/Your Harvard Law Review President sure seems comfortable violating the spirit of the Constitution though so he's got that going for him.
Mustard.
Yea, because we know only the truly worthy people are those with enough money and 'contacts' to get into the "right" schools no?
Judging a persons capacity for intellect based only upon their choice of schooling and desired profession not only makes you an elitist prick who feels duty bound to be lead by your "betters", but an ignorant one at that. (Though one could say they are one in the same).
/Your Harvard Law Review President sure seems comfortable violating the spirit of the Constitution though so he's got that going for him.
Mustard.
| error 303 | 2009-07-04 11:31:46 AM |
While I won't believe it until I see something a bit more substantial than Brad's Blog, I really don't understand why you would give a resignation speech without resigning...
Like... isn't the entire point of calling a press conference and giving a speech to clarify why you're doing something, not just to announce that you're doing it?
If she just wanted out, she could have just resigned.
I are confused :L
Like... isn't the entire point of calling a press conference and giving a speech to clarify why you're doing something, not just to announce that you're doing it?
If she just wanted out, she could have just resigned.
I are confused :L
| CanisNoir
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2009-07-04 11:35:12 AM |
PartTimeBuddha: I find it so difficult to understand why you support her.
To say I *support her* I think goes a bit overboard; I was always a tad wary. I liked her during the campaign because I felt the duo of McCain\Palin was a good one; McCain was an experienced moderate while Palin was an inexperienced but passionate small government type who knew a whole lot about Energy. To me I felt she could learn the ropes at McCain's feet and come out strong in four to eight years with that type of experience; I wasn't in the camp that thought McCain would stroke out the moment his hand left the bible so I never feared her actually having to be President within four years.
After the campaign I became more of an interested party; I still like her small government, fiscally conservative ideal's and she does know a shait ton about energy and environmental conservation. However, I liked her as second bannanna but still felt she lacked experience on National Issues.
So, I don't support her as much as see tremendous potential in her; it's up to her to live up to that :)
brigid_fitch: And by quitting 2 years before her term is up, that leaves her with even LESS qualifications for president.
I think Obama put the whole "Executive Experience" argument to rest; there's no way that could hit her without a boomerang effect coming back to slam the Dem who used it.
Americans have short memories and if she can go on to do great "background" things, I think quitting 2 years early is easily spinnable, especially in a few years when peoples memories are more faded and they are more susceptible to the "old news is boring" syndrome.
To say I *support her* I think goes a bit overboard; I was always a tad wary. I liked her during the campaign because I felt the duo of McCain\Palin was a good one; McCain was an experienced moderate while Palin was an inexperienced but passionate small government type who knew a whole lot about Energy. To me I felt she could learn the ropes at McCain's feet and come out strong in four to eight years with that type of experience; I wasn't in the camp that thought McCain would stroke out the moment his hand left the bible so I never feared her actually having to be President within four years.
After the campaign I became more of an interested party; I still like her small government, fiscally conservative ideal's and she does know a shait ton about energy and environmental conservation. However, I liked her as second bannanna but still felt she lacked experience on National Issues.
So, I don't support her as much as see tremendous potential in her; it's up to her to live up to that :)
brigid_fitch: And by quitting 2 years before her term is up, that leaves her with even LESS qualifications for president.
I think Obama put the whole "Executive Experience" argument to rest; there's no way that could hit her without a boomerang effect coming back to slam the Dem who used it.
Americans have short memories and if she can go on to do great "background" things, I think quitting 2 years early is easily spinnable, especially in a few years when peoples memories are more faded and they are more susceptible to the "old news is boring" syndrome.
| Tor_Eckman
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2009-07-04 11:36:04 AM |
error 303: While I won't believe it until I see something a bit more substantial than Brad's Blog, I really don't understand why you would give a resignation speech without resigning...
Like... isn't the entire point of calling a press conference and giving a speech to clarify why you're doing something, not just to announce that you're doing it?
If she just wanted out, she could have just resigned.
I are confused :L
She did resign. She didn't use those exact words, but she said she was turning over her power to her lieutenant governor. She didn't say she was doing it temporarily, or that she would be back or anything, so that's a resignation if I ever heard one.
Like... isn't the entire point of calling a press conference and giving a speech to clarify why you're doing something, not just to announce that you're doing it?
If she just wanted out, she could have just resigned.
I are confused :L
She did resign. She didn't use those exact words, but she said she was turning over her power to her lieutenant governor. She didn't say she was doing it temporarily, or that she would be back or anything, so that's a resignation if I ever heard one.
| CanisNoir
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2009-07-04 11:38:56 AM |
The Only Good Moran: Mustard.
I happily and proudly have...
/hot like a good mustard
...and only that in my fridge.
Suck it libby's ;P
I happily and proudly have...
/hot like a good mustard
...and only that in my fridge.
Suck it libby's ;P
| The Only Good Moran | 2009-07-04 11:39:09 AM |
CanisNoir: PartTimeBuddha: I find it so difficult to understand why you support her.
To say I *support her* I think goes a bit overboard; I was always a tad wary. I liked her during the campaign because I felt the duo of McCain\Palin was a good one; McCain was an experienced moderate while Palin was an inexperienced but passionate small government type who knew a whole lot about Energy. To me I felt she could learn the ropes at McCain's feet and come out strong in four to eight years with that type of experience; I wasn't in the camp that thought McCain would stroke out the moment his hand left the bible so I never feared her actually having to be President within four years.
After the campaign I became more of an interested party; I still like her small government, fiscally conservative ideal's and she does know a shait ton about energy and environmental conservation. However, I liked her as second bannanna but still felt she lacked experience on National Issues.
So, I don't support her as much as see tremendous potential in her; it's up to her to live up to that :)
brigid_fitch: And by quitting 2 years before her term is up, that leaves her with even LESS qualifications for president.
I think Obama put the whole "Executive Experience" argument to rest; there's no way that could hit her without a boomerang effect coming back to slam the Dem who used it.
Americans have short memories and if she can go on to do great "background" things, I think quitting 2 years early is easily spinnable, especially in a few years when peoples memories are more faded and they are more susceptible to the "old news is boring" syndrome.
Of course you think its spinnable, you'll be spinning it as the single greatest move of her life for years to come most likely, regardless of the outcome.
To say I *support her* I think goes a bit overboard; I was always a tad wary. I liked her during the campaign because I felt the duo of McCain\Palin was a good one; McCain was an experienced moderate while Palin was an inexperienced but passionate small government type who knew a whole lot about Energy. To me I felt she could learn the ropes at McCain's feet and come out strong in four to eight years with that type of experience; I wasn't in the camp that thought McCain would stroke out the moment his hand left the bible so I never feared her actually having to be President within four years.
After the campaign I became more of an interested party; I still like her small government, fiscally conservative ideal's and she does know a shait ton about energy and environmental conservation. However, I liked her as second bannanna but still felt she lacked experience on National Issues.
So, I don't support her as much as see tremendous potential in her; it's up to her to live up to that :)
brigid_fitch: And by quitting 2 years before her term is up, that leaves her with even LESS qualifications for president.
I think Obama put the whole "Executive Experience" argument to rest; there's no way that could hit her without a boomerang effect coming back to slam the Dem who used it.
Americans have short memories and if she can go on to do great "background" things, I think quitting 2 years early is easily spinnable, especially in a few years when peoples memories are more faded and they are more susceptible to the "old news is boring" syndrome.
Of course you think its spinnable, you'll be spinning it as the single greatest move of her life for years to come most likely, regardless of the outcome.
| error 303 | 2009-07-04 11:39:38 AM |
Tor_Eckman: She did resign. She didn't use those exact words, but she said she was turning over her power to her lieutenant governor. She didn't say she was doing it temporarily, or that she would be back or anything, so that's a resignation if I ever heard one.
Right, I get that she resigned. What I don't get is why she didn't say why she would be resigning... why would you call a press conference to give a speech that did nothing to clarify or justify your actions?
Right, I get that she resigned. What I don't get is why she didn't say why she would be resigning... why would you call a press conference to give a speech that did nothing to clarify or justify your actions?
| Farker T | 2009-07-04 11:41:00 AM |
A politician that may be guilty of CORRUPTION???
Color me shocked.
Color me shocked.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 11:42:43 AM |
CanisNoir:
I happily and proudly have...
/hot like a good mustard
...and only that in my fridge.
Suck it libby's ;P
"A house full of condiments and no food... How embarrassing."
I happily and proudly have...
/hot like a good mustard
...and only that in my fridge.
Suck it libby's ;P
"A house full of condiments and no food... How embarrassing."
| Shatner's Bassoon
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2009-07-04 11:44:48 AM |
CanisNoir: Americans have short memories and if she can go on to do great "background" things, I think quitting 2 years early is easily spinnable
I can't see how. If she bailed on a small state when the press coverage got a little rough, how the fark would she stand up on the world stage where the scrutiny is infinitely more intense? That's the kind of serious question that would be real hard to fend off during a presidential campaign. This is a really weird move, even for Palin; I very much doubt she's going to be running for president, ever.
I can't see how. If she bailed on a small state when the press coverage got a little rough, how the fark would she stand up on the world stage where the scrutiny is infinitely more intense? That's the kind of serious question that would be real hard to fend off during a presidential campaign. This is a really weird move, even for Palin; I very much doubt she's going to be running for president, ever.
| Tor_Eckman
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2009-07-04 11:44:49 AM |
CanisNoir: PartTimeBuddha: I find it so difficult to understand why you support her.
To say I *support her* I think goes a bit overboard; I was always a tad wary. I liked her during the campaign because I felt the duo of McCain\Palin was a good one; McCain was an experienced moderate while Palin was an inexperienced but passionate small government type who knew a whole lot about Energy. To me I felt she could learn the ropes at McCain's feet and come out strong in four to eight years with that type of experience; I wasn't in the camp that thought McCain would stroke out the moment his hand left the bible so I never feared her actually having to be President within four years.
After the campaign I became more of an interested party; I still like her small government, fiscally conservative ideal's and she does know a shait ton about energy and environmental conservation. However, I liked her as second bannanna but still felt she lacked experience on National Issues.
So, I don't support her as much as see tremendous potential in her; it's up to her to live up to that :)
brigid_fitch: And by quitting 2 years before her term is up, that leaves her with even LESS qualifications for president.
I think Obama put the whole "Executive Experience" argument to rest; there's no way that could hit her without a boomerang effect coming back to slam the Dem who used it.
Americans have short memories and if she can go on to do great "background" things, I think quitting 2 years early is easily spinnable, especially in a few years when peoples memories are more faded and they are more susceptible to the "old news is boring" syndrome.
She really showed that here:
"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know, the molecules, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first." --Sarah Palin, billed by John McCain as the nation's foremost expert on energy, clumsily answering a question while speaking off the cuff at a town hall meeting, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Sept. 17, 2008
And here:
"Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." --Sarah Palin, misstating the actual amount of energy produced by Alaska, which is only 3.5 percent, Sept. 11, 2008
Yes, a shiat ton indeed.
To say I *support her* I think goes a bit overboard; I was always a tad wary. I liked her during the campaign because I felt the duo of McCain\Palin was a good one; McCain was an experienced moderate while Palin was an inexperienced but passionate small government type who knew a whole lot about Energy. To me I felt she could learn the ropes at McCain's feet and come out strong in four to eight years with that type of experience; I wasn't in the camp that thought McCain would stroke out the moment his hand left the bible so I never feared her actually having to be President within four years.
After the campaign I became more of an interested party; I still like her small government, fiscally conservative ideal's and she does know a shait ton about energy and environmental conservation. However, I liked her as second bannanna but still felt she lacked experience on National Issues.
So, I don't support her as much as see tremendous potential in her; it's up to her to live up to that :)
brigid_fitch: And by quitting 2 years before her term is up, that leaves her with even LESS qualifications for president.
I think Obama put the whole "Executive Experience" argument to rest; there's no way that could hit her without a boomerang effect coming back to slam the Dem who used it.
Americans have short memories and if she can go on to do great "background" things, I think quitting 2 years early is easily spinnable, especially in a few years when peoples memories are more faded and they are more susceptible to the "old news is boring" syndrome.
She really showed that here:
"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know, the molecules, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first." --Sarah Palin, billed by John McCain as the nation's foremost expert on energy, clumsily answering a question while speaking off the cuff at a town hall meeting, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Sept. 17, 2008
And here:
"Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." --Sarah Palin, misstating the actual amount of energy produced by Alaska, which is only 3.5 percent, Sept. 11, 2008
Yes, a shiat ton indeed.
| jfarkinB
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2009-07-04 11:45:54 AM |
CanisNoir: The Only Good Moran: Mustard.
I happily and proudly have...
/hot like a good mustard
...and only that in my fridge.
Suck it libby's ;P
Nah, leave the grey poop off.
I happily and proudly have...
/hot like a good mustard
...and only that in my fridge.
Suck it libby's ;P
Nah, leave the grey poop off.
| CanisNoir
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2009-07-04 11:46:09 AM |
Lenny_da_Hog: "A house full of condiments and no food... How embarrassing."
Bah, food is for the Plebes. Those in the know are quite happy with a chunky or creamy Dijon Mustard.
Bah, food is for the Plebes. Those in the know are quite happy with a chunky or creamy Dijon Mustard.
| yelmrog | 2009-07-04 11:48:30 AM |
CanisNoir:
2016 is the far more likely date that we'll see Palin come out strong nationally imho. She's probably gambling correctly that Obama is going to be very hard to beat in 2012 so it's better to go below the radar and build strength, let other Republicans try to hammer Obama, and if, by chance, a Republican wins in 2016, she's young enough to make a viable shot at 2020 and beyond.
She's not done politically imho, but we won't be seeing much of her until shortly before Primaries where she'll just be a prominent keynote speaker for people.
It's amazing that people are talking about when Sarah Palin is going to run again. Almost anticipating it with bated breath. This is a woman who, when asked about which magazines she was fond of, could not name one. Not one. Couldn't even throw one out there and fake it. I mean, what was the deal there? She couldn't just say "Field and Stream" or some other outdoorsy magazine? Or maybe toss in The Weekly Standard or National Review just to win some points with the more intellectual end of the Republican party? The ineptitude is staggering.
This lady is pure poison. If the GOP wants to send itself further into oblivion, they should keep supporting people exactly like her.
2016 is the far more likely date that we'll see Palin come out strong nationally imho. She's probably gambling correctly that Obama is going to be very hard to beat in 2012 so it's better to go below the radar and build strength, let other Republicans try to hammer Obama, and if, by chance, a Republican wins in 2016, she's young enough to make a viable shot at 2020 and beyond.
She's not done politically imho, but we won't be seeing much of her until shortly before Primaries where she'll just be a prominent keynote speaker for people.
It's amazing that people are talking about when Sarah Palin is going to run again. Almost anticipating it with bated breath. This is a woman who, when asked about which magazines she was fond of, could not name one. Not one. Couldn't even throw one out there and fake it. I mean, what was the deal there? She couldn't just say "Field and Stream" or some other outdoorsy magazine? Or maybe toss in The Weekly Standard or National Review just to win some points with the more intellectual end of the Republican party? The ineptitude is staggering.
This lady is pure poison. If the GOP wants to send itself further into oblivion, they should keep supporting people exactly like her.
| CanisNoir
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2009-07-04 11:50:15 AM |
Shatner's Bassoon: I can't see how. If she bailed on a small state when the press coverage got a little rough, how the fark would she stand up on the world stage where the scrutiny is infinitely more intense?
Part of the problem you're having is that your premise is completely wrong. She didn't quit because press coverage got too difficult, she quit because every time she went out of State, blew her nose or sneezed, someone was filing Ethics complaints against her. Not only was it becoming financially burdensome, but it was adversely effecting her staff and hindering her administrations attempts at pursuing their policy aims. Turning it over to the similar minded but less controversial Lt. Governor she is ensuring that the policy goals she got elected to pursue are actually being pursued. It's a very defensible position.
I agree it was odd and a shock, but in that light, it's also perfectly understandable. If Hillary can run a successful and potential presidential campaign with all the skeletons in her closet, do you really think leaving the Governorship 2 years early is a campaign killer?
Part of the problem you're having is that your premise is completely wrong. She didn't quit because press coverage got too difficult, she quit because every time she went out of State, blew her nose or sneezed, someone was filing Ethics complaints against her. Not only was it becoming financially burdensome, but it was adversely effecting her staff and hindering her administrations attempts at pursuing their policy aims. Turning it over to the similar minded but less controversial Lt. Governor she is ensuring that the policy goals she got elected to pursue are actually being pursued. It's a very defensible position.
I agree it was odd and a shock, but in that light, it's also perfectly understandable. If Hillary can run a successful and potential presidential campaign with all the skeletons in her closet, do you really think leaving the Governorship 2 years early is a campaign killer?
| t3knomanser | 2009-07-04 11:52:30 AM |
CanisNoir: She didn't quit because press coverage got too difficult, she quit because every time she went out of State, blew her nose or sneezed, someone was filing Ethics complaints against her.
Mostly because abandoning your post to go jaunt around the country to build your national reputation is unethical. Stunning, I know.
CanisNoir: do you really think leaving the Governorship 2 years early is a campaign killer?
No, but going to the Federal Pen for embezzlement will probably do it.
Mostly because abandoning your post to go jaunt around the country to build your national reputation is unethical. Stunning, I know.
CanisNoir: do you really think leaving the Governorship 2 years early is a campaign killer?
No, but going to the Federal Pen for embezzlement will probably do it.
| Mentat
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2009-07-04 11:54:58 AM |
FishingWithFredo: Yeah. Don't you hate when that happens?
OMFG OBAMA BROUGHT HIS FAMILY OUT ON THE STAGE THE NIGHT HE WAS NOMINATED TELEPROMPTER TEABAG IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH!!!!
OMFG OBAMA BROUGHT HIS FAMILY OUT ON THE STAGE THE NIGHT HE WAS NOMINATED TELEPROMPTER TEABAG IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH!!!!
| CanisNoir
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2009-07-04 11:56:02 AM |
yelmrog: This is a woman who, when asked about which magazines she was fond of, could not name one. Not one. Couldn't even throw one out there and fake it. I mean, what was the deal there?
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
What do you think is more important? The fact that a possible presidential candidate didn't lie quick enough to cover the fact that they don't spend hours pouring over the latest 'zine or the fact that they know the Oil industry like the back of their hand and has succeeded in keeping that industry as environmentally conscious as possible? Me, I'm throwing my weight behind the second.
I mean really, of all the stupid shait to latch on to, an avid outdoors person who's also governor of a state doesn't want to come right out and say "None" and instead bumbles the redirect, is the battlefield you chose? Farking amazing.
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
What do you think is more important? The fact that a possible presidential candidate didn't lie quick enough to cover the fact that they don't spend hours pouring over the latest 'zine or the fact that they know the Oil industry like the back of their hand and has succeeded in keeping that industry as environmentally conscious as possible? Me, I'm throwing my weight behind the second.
I mean really, of all the stupid shait to latch on to, an avid outdoors person who's also governor of a state doesn't want to come right out and say "None" and instead bumbles the redirect, is the battlefield you chose? Farking amazing.
| sallyjuneabigailmay | 2009-07-04 11:56:54 AM |
Mentat: Shrugging Atlas: My wife and I just let them piss and moan without bothering to resond as they aren't looking for reasoned debate. But I can tell you I cannot farking wait to see them tomorrow. I'm going to rub their noses in this all damn day.
Tomorrow's Fark headline:
Beloved Farker Shrugging Atlas killed at family 4th of July gathering. OMGWTFBBQDIAF
Late as always, and forgive me if someone else caught this, but wouldn't that be "...OMGWTFDIABBQF?"
/Mexican kids are shooting fireworks below
Tomorrow's Fark headline:
Beloved Farker Shrugging Atlas killed at family 4th of July gathering. OMGWTFBBQDIAF
Late as always, and forgive me if someone else caught this, but wouldn't that be "...OMGWTFDIABBQF?"
/Mexican kids are shooting fireworks below
| Loading My Guns | 2009-07-04 11:57:30 AM |
This Thread Is Full Of Fear And Hate.I Wonder What The Fear Is All About. Anyone Care To Enlighten Me?
| CanisNoir
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2009-07-04 11:58:01 AM |
t3knomanser: Mostly because abandoning your post to go jaunt around the country to build your national reputation is unethical. Stunning, I know.
So Obama is unethical now eh?
t3knomanser: No, but going to the Federal Pen for embezzlement will probably do it.
Yea, baseless speculation looks as good on you as over inflated hyperbole.
/By that I mean you wear it poorly.
So Obama is unethical now eh?
t3knomanser: No, but going to the Federal Pen for embezzlement will probably do it.
Yea, baseless speculation looks as good on you as over inflated hyperbole.
/By that I mean you wear it poorly.
| Shatner's Bassoon
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2009-07-04 11:58:04 AM |
CanisNoir: Part of the problem you're having is that your premise is completely wrong. She didn't quit because press coverage got too difficult, she quit because every time she went out of State, blew her nose or sneezed, someone was filing Ethics complaints against her.
Oh, well that's so much easier to overcome when you're president. Good point.
I agree it was odd and a shock, but in that light, it's also perfectly understandable. If Hillary can run a successful and potential presidential campaign with all the skeletons in her closet, do you really think leaving the Governorship 2 years early is a campaign killer?
Hillary's closet didn't contain anything as bad as a track record of quitting positions she'd been elected to. And I hate to point it out but, Hillary's campaign was not successful. She lost.
Oh, well that's so much easier to overcome when you're president. Good point.
I agree it was odd and a shock, but in that light, it's also perfectly understandable. If Hillary can run a successful and potential presidential campaign with all the skeletons in her closet, do you really think leaving the Governorship 2 years early is a campaign killer?
Hillary's closet didn't contain anything as bad as a track record of quitting positions she'd been elected to. And I hate to point it out but, Hillary's campaign was not successful. She lost.
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2009-07-04 11:58:26 AM |
CanisNoir: yelmrog: This is a woman who, when asked about which magazines she was fond of, could not name one. Not one. Couldn't even throw one out there and fake it. I mean, what was the deal there?
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
What do you think is more important? The fact that a possible presidential candidate didn't lie quick enough to cover the fact that they don't spend hours pouring over the latest 'zine or the fact that they know the Oil industry like the back of their hand and has succeeded in keeping that industry as environmentally conscious as possible? Me, I'm throwing my weight behind the second.
I mean really, of all the stupid shait to latch on to, an avid outdoors person who's also governor of a state doesn't want to come right out and say "None" and instead bumbles the redirect, is the battlefield you chose? Farking amazing.
You're just making a spectacle out of yourself now.
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
What do you think is more important? The fact that a possible presidential candidate didn't lie quick enough to cover the fact that they don't spend hours pouring over the latest 'zine or the fact that they know the Oil industry like the back of their hand and has succeeded in keeping that industry as environmentally conscious as possible? Me, I'm throwing my weight behind the second.
I mean really, of all the stupid shait to latch on to, an avid outdoors person who's also governor of a state doesn't want to come right out and say "None" and instead bumbles the redirect, is the battlefield you chose? Farking amazing.
You're just making a spectacle out of yourself now.
| Bob16 | 2009-07-04 11:58:27 AM |
Anybody read the stories about Palin meeting with McCain consultants half nude after coming out of the shower.
She's a fruitcake.
Damn i hope she runs again.
She's a fruitcake.
Damn i hope she runs again.
| Free Radical | 2009-07-04 11:58:53 AM |
If this turns out to be true how the hell will Fox News backpedal their way out of all the slathering that went on yesterday?
| Truncks1 | 2009-07-04 12:01:42 PM |
CanisNoir: I agree it was odd and a shock, but in that light, it's also perfectly understandable. If Hillary can run a successful and potential presidential campaign with all the skeletons in her closet, do you really think leaving the Governorship 2 years early is a campaign killer?
Yeah, it will be.
And don't kid yourself, she liked being in the spotlight.
Yeah, it will be.
And don't kid yourself, she liked being in the spotlight.
| ghare | 2009-07-04 12:01:49 PM |
Loading My Guns: This Thread Is Full Of Fear And Hate.I Wonder What The Fear Is All About. Anyone Care To Enlighten Me?
The "fear" is from Democrats, that now the Republicans might find someone competent to run against Obama (really low chance, but it's there) instead of Palin, who had NO chance.
The "hate" is from Republicans, who consider rightful criticism of their holy annointed ones and the use of facts "liberal hate."
The "fear" is from Democrats, that now the Republicans might find someone competent to run against Obama (really low chance, but it's there) instead of Palin, who had NO chance.
The "hate" is from Republicans, who consider rightful criticism of their holy annointed ones and the use of facts "liberal hate."
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2009-07-04 12:02:01 PM |
Free Radical: If this turns out to be true how the hell will Fox News backpedal their way out of all the slathering that went on yesterday?
They won't. It will all be spun as a conspiracy by the left to disgrace and destroy their queen. Like dogboy, they will never admit that she is completely unfit to hold any position higher than game warden.
They won't. It will all be spun as a conspiracy by the left to disgrace and destroy their queen. Like dogboy, they will never admit that she is completely unfit to hold any position higher than game warden.
| From_The_Year_2000 | 2009-07-04 12:05:00 PM |
CanisNoir: yelmrog: This is a woman who, when asked about which magazines she was fond of, could not name one. Not one. Couldn't even throw one out there and fake it. I mean, what was the deal there?
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
What do you think is more important? The fact that a possible presidential candidate didn't lie quick enough to cover the fact that they don't spend hours pouring over the latest 'zine or the fact that they know the Oil industry like the back of their hand and has succeeded in keeping that industry as environmentally conscious as possible? Me, I'm throwing my weight behind the second.
I mean really, of all the stupid shait to latch on to, an avid outdoors person who's also governor of a state doesn't want to come right out and say "None" and instead bumbles the redirect, is the battlefield you chose? Farking amazing.
You wouldn't have bungled it as badly as she did, I'd imagine. For your sake. But yes, it's just one of the funnier of a million things to make fun of her for, like you said. It's funny you pick oil though as her expertise within 10 posts of that being debunked.
It's weird, for someone that isn't a huge fan of hers you seem to spend an awful lot of time white knighting for her
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
What do you think is more important? The fact that a possible presidential candidate didn't lie quick enough to cover the fact that they don't spend hours pouring over the latest 'zine or the fact that they know the Oil industry like the back of their hand and has succeeded in keeping that industry as environmentally conscious as possible? Me, I'm throwing my weight behind the second.
I mean really, of all the stupid shait to latch on to, an avid outdoors person who's also governor of a state doesn't want to come right out and say "None" and instead bumbles the redirect, is the battlefield you chose? Farking amazing.
You wouldn't have bungled it as badly as she did, I'd imagine. For your sake. But yes, it's just one of the funnier of a million things to make fun of her for, like you said. It's funny you pick oil though as her expertise within 10 posts of that being debunked.
It's weird, for someone that isn't a huge fan of hers you seem to spend an awful lot of time white knighting for her
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 12:06:20 PM |
Shatner's Bassoon: CanisNoir: Part of the problem you're having is that your premise is completely wrong. She didn't quit because press coverage got too difficult, she quit because every time she went out of State, blew her nose or sneezed, someone was filing Ethics complaints against her.
Oh, well that's so much easier to overcome when you're president. Good point.
There's a little irony in the fact that Sarah herself used ethics charges to pump up her career. She filed charges against the head of the oil & gas commission, who was also the head of the AK GOP, for working on party business with state resources.
Oh, yeah. She abruptly quit that job, too.
It worked, but Karma is a biatch.
Oh, well that's so much easier to overcome when you're president. Good point.
There's a little irony in the fact that Sarah herself used ethics charges to pump up her career. She filed charges against the head of the oil & gas commission, who was also the head of the AK GOP, for working on party business with state resources.
Oh, yeah. She abruptly quit that job, too.
It worked, but Karma is a biatch.
| yelmrog | 2009-07-04 12:07:08 PM |
CanisNoir: yelmrog: This is a woman who, when asked about which magazines she was fond of, could not name one. Not one. Couldn't even throw one out there and fake it. I mean, what was the deal there?
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
What do you think is more important? The fact that a possible presidential candidate didn't lie quick enough to cover the fact that they don't spend hours pouring over the latest 'zine or the fact that they know the Oil industry like the back of their hand and has succeeded in keeping that industry as environmentally conscious as possible? Me, I'm throwing my weight behind the second.
Sarah Palin had nothing to do with mellowing out the oil industry in Alaska. The Exxon Valdez spill however, did have more than a little to do with it.
And yes, I expect politicians to be quicker on their feet than that. If I were asked the same question, I'd probably say "You know, apart from the odd Foreign Affairs or Rolling Stone, I don't really read magazines very often at all. I prefer newspapers or the Internet to keep up to date on current events." Then they would have asked me which sites I visit, and I would have said Fark, and then MY political career would be in the tank. Instead we heard Palin say something like "oh, you know, all of them"...
WTF? The problem wasn't that she didn't "lie quick enough" the problem is she came up with the exact same lie that I'd expect out of a 13-year-old trying to convince someone that they indeed read magazines. That's the problem here, not the fact that she doesn't read them.
In all honesty, in the last go-round I was 100% on board for McCain until I heard the stuff coming out of Palin's mouth.
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
What do you think is more important? The fact that a possible presidential candidate didn't lie quick enough to cover the fact that they don't spend hours pouring over the latest 'zine or the fact that they know the Oil industry like the back of their hand and has succeeded in keeping that industry as environmentally conscious as possible? Me, I'm throwing my weight behind the second.
Sarah Palin had nothing to do with mellowing out the oil industry in Alaska. The Exxon Valdez spill however, did have more than a little to do with it.
And yes, I expect politicians to be quicker on their feet than that. If I were asked the same question, I'd probably say "You know, apart from the odd Foreign Affairs or Rolling Stone, I don't really read magazines very often at all. I prefer newspapers or the Internet to keep up to date on current events." Then they would have asked me which sites I visit, and I would have said Fark, and then MY political career would be in the tank. Instead we heard Palin say something like "oh, you know, all of them"...
WTF? The problem wasn't that she didn't "lie quick enough" the problem is she came up with the exact same lie that I'd expect out of a 13-year-old trying to convince someone that they indeed read magazines. That's the problem here, not the fact that she doesn't read them.
In all honesty, in the last go-round I was 100% on board for McCain until I heard the stuff coming out of Palin's mouth.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 12:13:33 PM |
yelmrog:
Sarah Palin had nothing to do with mellowing out the oil industry in Alaska. The Exxon Valdez spill however, did have more than a little to do with it.
As a matter of fact, Alaska's oil industry has had a horrible environmental record under Palin. Don't you recall the large manifold pipe blowing on the North Slope because of lack of maintenance, and the subsequent Congressional hearings?
Then there was that stuck pig that nearly blew up the top of the pipeline when the idiots increased gas pressure behind the pig, the gas bypassed the pig and went right into the pumps at the Pump Station 1...
Not that it's her fault, but she certainly didn't do anything to improve HSE for the oil industry.
Sarah Palin had nothing to do with mellowing out the oil industry in Alaska. The Exxon Valdez spill however, did have more than a little to do with it.
As a matter of fact, Alaska's oil industry has had a horrible environmental record under Palin. Don't you recall the large manifold pipe blowing on the North Slope because of lack of maintenance, and the subsequent Congressional hearings?
Then there was that stuck pig that nearly blew up the top of the pipeline when the idiots increased gas pressure behind the pig, the gas bypassed the pig and went right into the pumps at the Pump Station 1...
Not that it's her fault, but she certainly didn't do anything to improve HSE for the oil industry.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 12:15:24 PM |
CanisNoir: To say I *support her* I think goes a bit overboard; I was always a tad wary.
Noted.
CanisNoir: I liked her during the campaign because I felt the duo of McCain\Palin was a good one; McCain was an experienced moderate while Palin was an inexperienced but passionate
I agree this holds for her initial appeal.
CanisNoir: (A) small government type who (B) knew a whole lot about Energy.
On (A) I don't think she's small government, on the facts. She appears to be a big talker on cutting spending and particularly enjoyed getting rid of big ticket items, but in terms of governmental intrusion she seems to have behaved in much the same way as an hereditary monarch.
On (B)... I don't think she could discuss this intelligently in a forum of experts, but -- yes -- she certainly recognises the importance of energy policy for Alaska (as would any ruler of a Gulf state). I think it's the difference between an engineer and a salesman here. I wouldn't mark her down for it, but I think your description overstates her knowledge.
Alaska is not a normal part of the US. It's an oil state. And -- as with every other oil state -- there is a tremendous corruption the closer one gets to the legislative head.
Talk of drilling ANWR to achieve energy self-sufficiency for the US, however, is just loony. And the way she danced/flailed around on the issue of commodity trade in oil (we can't flag the molecules but we must find a way... of flagging the molecules) (not a quote) really gave me the impression of someone who had heard someone else say something clever but then mangled it up beyond human recognition when trying to repeat it.
CanisNoir: and (C) environmental conservation.
(C) I've had a look at her environmental positions (Link (new window) and I think the items quoted indicate that she is not insane, given the amount of hunting-for-survival that takes place in Alaska. However, the first quote bothers me:
This month, Ms. Palin issued a last-minute statement of opposition to a ballot measure that would have provided added protections for salmon from potential contamination from mining, an action seen as crucial to its defeat.
I realise it's part of the Resource First philosophy, but that sort of thing seems inimical to good practice. I think it's fair to say she is positive about the environment unless an issue would cause a company to spend an additional penny. (Contrary to her pro-subsistence stance.)
CanisNoir: So, I don't support her as much as see tremendous potential in her; it's up to her to live up to that :)
I do see where you're coming from in that. However, I really think she's an empty-suit. She looks good, she is confident, she is ambitious, she is cunning. But I think that all those qualities merely bamboozle into the feeling that someone has potential when, once you get behind the charm, there's just someone very shallow and really quite vindictive. People want her to be good at what she does. That's a gift. But she isn't, and that's a curse.
It's not just unfamiliarity with national issues. It's the way she processes information. It's the way she lies, betrays, makes enemies (and then pretends it's a virtue!). I can't ever see someone like that really leading and I have no perception -- at all -- that she has a moral centre beyond her own narcissism.
Noted.
CanisNoir: I liked her during the campaign because I felt the duo of McCain\Palin was a good one; McCain was an experienced moderate while Palin was an inexperienced but passionate
I agree this holds for her initial appeal.
CanisNoir: (A) small government type who (B) knew a whole lot about Energy.
On (A) I don't think she's small government, on the facts. She appears to be a big talker on cutting spending and particularly enjoyed getting rid of big ticket items, but in terms of governmental intrusion she seems to have behaved in much the same way as an hereditary monarch.
On (B)... I don't think she could discuss this intelligently in a forum of experts, but -- yes -- she certainly recognises the importance of energy policy for Alaska (as would any ruler of a Gulf state). I think it's the difference between an engineer and a salesman here. I wouldn't mark her down for it, but I think your description overstates her knowledge.
Alaska is not a normal part of the US. It's an oil state. And -- as with every other oil state -- there is a tremendous corruption the closer one gets to the legislative head.
Talk of drilling ANWR to achieve energy self-sufficiency for the US, however, is just loony. And the way she danced/flailed around on the issue of commodity trade in oil (we can't flag the molecules but we must find a way... of flagging the molecules) (not a quote) really gave me the impression of someone who had heard someone else say something clever but then mangled it up beyond human recognition when trying to repeat it.
CanisNoir: and (C) environmental conservation.
(C) I've had a look at her environmental positions (Link (new window) and I think the items quoted indicate that she is not insane, given the amount of hunting-for-survival that takes place in Alaska. However, the first quote bothers me:
This month, Ms. Palin issued a last-minute statement of opposition to a ballot measure that would have provided added protections for salmon from potential contamination from mining, an action seen as crucial to its defeat.
I realise it's part of the Resource First philosophy, but that sort of thing seems inimical to good practice. I think it's fair to say she is positive about the environment unless an issue would cause a company to spend an additional penny. (Contrary to her pro-subsistence stance.)
CanisNoir: So, I don't support her as much as see tremendous potential in her; it's up to her to live up to that :)
I do see where you're coming from in that. However, I really think she's an empty-suit. She looks good, she is confident, she is ambitious, she is cunning. But I think that all those qualities merely bamboozle into the feeling that someone has potential when, once you get behind the charm, there's just someone very shallow and really quite vindictive. People want her to be good at what she does. That's a gift. But she isn't, and that's a curse.
It's not just unfamiliarity with national issues. It's the way she processes information. It's the way she lies, betrays, makes enemies (and then pretends it's a virtue!). I can't ever see someone like that really leading and I have no perception -- at all -- that she has a moral centre beyond her own narcissism.
| FeedTheCollapse | 2009-07-04 12:17:14 PM |
CanisNoir: The most likely scenario is, as someone wiser than myself pointed out, that she's taking the Nixon route. She will sit out 2012 and instead work on other campaigns, do fund raisers for the party, travel around and collect some political favors while building contacts and getting the National Experience she truly needs to mount a successful campaign.
National Experience, maybe. Though I fail to see how stepping down from executive experience will do anything but harm her chances in '12 or '16. I agree that "scandal!" may be knee-jerk, but it really does seem the most likely as stepping down from Governorship can do nothing but harm her Presidential aspirations, especially 3 years early.
National Experience, maybe. Though I fail to see how stepping down from executive experience will do anything but harm her chances in '12 or '16. I agree that "scandal!" may be knee-jerk, but it really does seem the most likely as stepping down from Governorship can do nothing but harm her Presidential aspirations, especially 3 years early.
| FeedTheCollapse | 2009-07-04 12:18:18 PM |
FeedTheCollapse: stepping down from Governorship can do nothing but harm her Presidential aspirations, especially 3 years early.
edit: 3 years early to the Presidential Primaries.
edit: 3 years early to the Presidential Primaries.
| t3knomanser | 2009-07-04 12:22:23 PM |
CanisNoir: So Obama is unethical now eh?
Absolutely. Anyone that holds office and runs for another office is unethical.
Absolutely. Anyone that holds office and runs for another office is unethical.
| colon_pow | 2009-07-04 12:23:35 PM |
palin is an existential threat to the democrats. they know this. if she was a buffoon like they claim, she would have faded away after the election.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
| mud_shark | 2009-07-04 12:25:34 PM |
hej: I understand that she normally has a hard time forming a sentence, but she sounded nervous as hell. I couldn't stand to actually watch the whole thing, and she was only marginally coherent, so I'm curious if she actually cited a reason for resigning when she gave this press conference.
That's funny - yesterday a co-worker said everyone either hates her or loves her. I respectfully disagreed - I don't give a shiat about her. What was it that made you actually pay attention to a governor of Alaska that was resigning?
Do you really think she matters enough to pay attention to?
That's funny - yesterday a co-worker said everyone either hates her or loves her. I respectfully disagreed - I don't give a shiat about her. What was it that made you actually pay attention to a governor of Alaska that was resigning?
Do you really think she matters enough to pay attention to?
| heap | 2009-07-04 12:27:00 PM |
PartTimeBuddha: I don't think she could discuss this intelligently in a forum of experts
i have it on good authority she cannot flag molecules.
her fungibility is still a matter for debate, however.
i have it on good authority she cannot flag molecules.
her fungibility is still a matter for debate, however.
| Apik0r0s | 2009-07-04 12:29:56 PM |
FeedTheCollapse: but watching it, you could practically see the bile spewing out of her mouth.
When has anything else ever come out of that mouth?
Some buddies of mine told me yesterday that she was talking with FOX about getting her own show, but by the end of the day Fox seemed to be backtracking. Something big is up.
I sincerely hope this hateful hillbilly ends up in prison, and all of her family secrets exposed.
A lifetime of shame is too good for her.
When has anything else ever come out of that mouth?
Some buddies of mine told me yesterday that she was talking with FOX about getting her own show, but by the end of the day Fox seemed to be backtracking. Something big is up.
I sincerely hope this hateful hillbilly ends up in prison, and all of her family secrets exposed.
A lifetime of shame is too good for her.
| yelmrog | 2009-07-04 12:29:56 PM |
mud_shark
What was it that made you actually pay attention to a governor of Alaska that was resigning?
I'm not 100% sure why she still garners attention, but it may be for the same reason that people still pay attention to Britney Spears.
What was it that made you actually pay attention to a governor of Alaska that was resigning?
I'm not 100% sure why she still garners attention, but it may be for the same reason that people still pay attention to Britney Spears.
| heap | 2009-07-04 12:30:17 PM |
btw, canis - do you remember, just yesterday or the day before - how the self labeled pitbull and queen of the attack supposedly didn't cry foul at being attacked herself?
is this at all a mind-changer on that one?
is this at all a mind-changer on that one?
| Skleenar | 2009-07-04 12:31:15 PM |
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 12:32:57 PM |
Palin's energy experience:
Frank Murkowski saw she made a good showing in the 2002 race for lt. gov., so he appointed her to the oil and gas commission. She abruptly resigned a year later because people picked on her.
The end.
Nothing before, nothing after.
(Being married to a sometime-roughneck is not experience with the energy industry.)
Frank Murkowski saw she made a good showing in the 2002 race for lt. gov., so he appointed her to the oil and gas commission. She abruptly resigned a year later because people picked on her.
The end.
Nothing before, nothing after.
(Being married to a sometime-roughneck is not experience with the energy industry.)
| rnld | 2009-07-04 12:34:20 PM |
GratuityIncluded: rnld: GratuityIncluded: If you are a conservative, like myself, looking for any rationality about Palin ... you will not find it here in this thread. The uninformed (whether by no experience or by choice) don't understand what you and I like best in America and don't have the proclivity to fight about it.
She resigned as Governor today. Pure and simple. Odd indeed. Quitter.
Pure and simple. You're a partisan. Hey, that's okay with me! But her motivations -- equated by your simpleton line of thinking ------ aren't necessarily what others like me think. I choose to believe it wasn't about quitting -- which would be easy to swallow if I were a hater. I choose to believe things I'm not fed by posts on blogs. I accept her at her word until facts dictate otherwise.
That's the American way mf'er. Or it should be! Get with the program or you and your kind are going to drag us all into the mud of history.
You say you accept her word, but the problem is her "word" was disjointed, unclear and scattered.
She claimed she didn't want to be a "lame duck" after serving about half of her term.
She didn't even inform the Lt Governor until Wed night.
You may call laying out simple facts and staying with the non speculative issues simpleton, but in reality, anything outside of the fact that Palin decided she didn't want to continue doing the job she was elected to do it's all as speculative as the blogs.
She resigned as Governor today. Pure and simple. Odd indeed. Quitter.
Pure and simple. You're a partisan. Hey, that's okay with me! But her motivations -- equated by your simpleton line of thinking ------ aren't necessarily what others like me think. I choose to believe it wasn't about quitting -- which would be easy to swallow if I were a hater. I choose to believe things I'm not fed by posts on blogs. I accept her at her word until facts dictate otherwise.
That's the American way mf'er. Or it should be! Get with the program or you and your kind are going to drag us all into the mud of history.
You say you accept her word, but the problem is her "word" was disjointed, unclear and scattered.
She claimed she didn't want to be a "lame duck" after serving about half of her term.
She didn't even inform the Lt Governor until Wed night.
You may call laying out simple facts and staying with the non speculative issues simpleton, but in reality, anything outside of the fact that Palin decided she didn't want to continue doing the job she was elected to do it's all as speculative as the blogs.
| rnld | 2009-07-04 12:37:58 PM |
t3knomanser: Absolutely. Anyone that holds office and runs for another office is unethical.
And when Bush ran for President in 2000 while the Governor of Texas?
McCain as a US Senator?
Palin as the Governor of Alaska?
And when Bush ran for President in 2000 while the Governor of Texas?
McCain as a US Senator?
Palin as the Governor of Alaska?
| heap | 2009-07-04 12:42:49 PM |
for reference sake...
CanisNoir [TotalFark] Quote 2009-07-03 11:01:12 AM
She's laughed off the attacks on herself and correctly been upset by attacks on her children; you need to learn to differentiate between the two.
i guess i'm just still a bit baffled that somebody (anybody. not ragging on you, just conceptually mindfarked at seeing it) can not see the double standard she wants - she wants to sling shiat like a whole cage full of angry monkeys, but expects to be treated like a delicate flower herself. i just have to wonder if yesterday's events still slide under that radar, or if even this cracks the crust.
CanisNoir [TotalFark] Quote 2009-07-03 11:01:12 AM
heap: take a step back on this one. she advertises herself proudly as an attack dog (or a pissed off fish, depending on mood apparently) yet displays asspain the likes of which hasn't been seen since Mr. Hands if anybody even comes close to returning the favor.
She's laughed off the attacks on herself and correctly been upset by attacks on her children; you need to learn to differentiate between the two.
i guess i'm just still a bit baffled that somebody (anybody. not ragging on you, just conceptually mindfarked at seeing it) can not see the double standard she wants - she wants to sling shiat like a whole cage full of angry monkeys, but expects to be treated like a delicate flower herself. i just have to wonder if yesterday's events still slide under that radar, or if even this cracks the crust.
| theorellior | 2009-07-04 12:43:02 PM |
CanisNoir: She didn't quit because press coverage got too difficult, she quit because every time she went out of State, blew her nose or sneezed, someone was filing Ethics complaints against her. Not only was it becoming financially burdensome, but it was adversely effecting her staff and hindering her administrations attempts at pursuing their policy aims.
I'm assuming you're saying that these complaints weren't justified? That the people filing them were fishing for scandal and figured if they kept at it, they'd be able to bring her down? That the suspicions people had about her house and how it was built were just a red herring thrown up to go rake muck?
Funny, that sounds just like what happened to an investigation of some real estate deals in Arkansas in the 90s.
I'm assuming you're saying that these complaints weren't justified? That the people filing them were fishing for scandal and figured if they kept at it, they'd be able to bring her down? That the suspicions people had about her house and how it was built were just a red herring thrown up to go rake muck?
Funny, that sounds just like what happened to an investigation of some real estate deals in Arkansas in the 90s.
| Skleenar | 2009-07-04 12:44:50 PM |
theorellior: Funny, that sounds just like what happened to an investigation of some real estate deals in Arkansas in the 90s.
Projection.
Is there anything it can't do?
Projection.
Is there anything it can't do?
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2009-07-04 12:45:06 PM |
colon_pow: carry on farktards. do your best.
We don't need to. She's done it to herself much better than we ever could. I am disappointed. I was so hoping she could be the Republican's candidate for 2012. She does a fantastic job of showing the moderates exactly how crazy and morally bankrupt your ideology is. If I were to design the perfect false flag for the Republican party... Sarah would have been it. Nothing turns off the moderates and the fence sitters like seeing y'alls base froth at the mouth at her rallies. Hell, she caused so much extra money to flow into the Democrats war chest just simply by existing. I'd love her to continue to be the face of the Republican party. Too bad it looks like she has cracked and hell, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if she an heroed herself sometime soon.
We don't need to. She's done it to herself much better than we ever could. I am disappointed. I was so hoping she could be the Republican's candidate for 2012. She does a fantastic job of showing the moderates exactly how crazy and morally bankrupt your ideology is. If I were to design the perfect false flag for the Republican party... Sarah would have been it. Nothing turns off the moderates and the fence sitters like seeing y'alls base froth at the mouth at her rallies. Hell, she caused so much extra money to flow into the Democrats war chest just simply by existing. I'd love her to continue to be the face of the Republican party. Too bad it looks like she has cracked and hell, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if she an heroed herself sometime soon.
| The Only Good Moran | 2009-07-04 12:50:55 PM |
colon_pow: palin is an existential threat to the democrats. they know this. if she was a buffoon like they claim, she would have faded away after the election.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
Anything to defend your Queen eh?
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
Anything to defend your Queen eh?
| The Why Not Guy
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2009-07-04 12:54:11 PM |
heap: she wants to sling shiat like a whole cage full of angry monkeys, but expects to be treated like a delicate flower herself. i just have to wonder if yesterday's events still slide under that radar, or if even this cracks the crust.
Exactly. Governor Palin came out swinging at the convention, and Republicans cheered the Pitbull with Lipstick who was really sticking it to the Libs (as if that's what the GOP had been lacking thus far). Then when anyone swings back, they cry foul.
I'll be the first to agree that attacking her children - or any politician's children - is a cheap attack. But Governor Palin has plenty to be attacked on: her incoherent interviews void of any comprehension of world affairs, her hateful, divisive speeches aimed at "Real Americans", her seeming belief that being moderately attractive and flirty (wink!) is enough to earn her national office.
There's a line in a Nanci Griffith song: "When beauty's all you offer, how soon the world discovers that your beauty's gone." It may as well have been written about Sarah.
Exactly. Governor Palin came out swinging at the convention, and Republicans cheered the Pitbull with Lipstick who was really sticking it to the Libs (as if that's what the GOP had been lacking thus far). Then when anyone swings back, they cry foul.
I'll be the first to agree that attacking her children - or any politician's children - is a cheap attack. But Governor Palin has plenty to be attacked on: her incoherent interviews void of any comprehension of world affairs, her hateful, divisive speeches aimed at "Real Americans", her seeming belief that being moderately attractive and flirty (wink!) is enough to earn her national office.
There's a line in a Nanci Griffith song: "When beauty's all you offer, how soon the world discovers that your beauty's gone." It may as well have been written about Sarah.
| The Homer Tax | 2009-07-04 12:54:16 PM |
How can anyone with a straight face call former Governor Palin a "small government conservative" when her single greatest achievement as Governor was increasing corporate Taxes on Oil Companies so she could increase the amount of money redistributed to her consituents?
It's literally "Income Redistribution" in its purest form.
It's literally "Income Redistribution" in its purest form.
| DirkValentine | 2009-07-04 12:55:31 PM |
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| rnld | 2009-07-04 12:55:33 PM |
The Only Good Moran: colon_pow: palin is an existential threat to the democrats. they know this. if she was a buffoon like they claim, she would have faded away after the election.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
Anything to defend your Queen eh?
Palin destroys herself. Resigning as Governor with 18 months left on her term is whacky. It's news.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
Anything to defend your Queen eh?
Palin destroys herself. Resigning as Governor with 18 months left on her term is whacky. It's news.
| Farkomatic | 2009-07-04 12:56:55 PM |
deadapostle: St_Francis_P: 2xhelix: If this is true, I'm gonna need a hell of a lot of popcorn.
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
I was going to say the same thing. This is the chucklehead who was joined at the hip with Bev Harris of black box voting warning us of how elections were being stolen by republicans. So tell me again how well that conspiracy worked the last few elections? Does the word SIXTY ring a bell?
Can't believe a word this guy says...
Yeah, it's going to be a circus.
With a source like The Brad Blog, how could it be false?
I was going to say the same thing. This is the chucklehead who was joined at the hip with Bev Harris of black box voting warning us of how elections were being stolen by republicans. So tell me again how well that conspiracy worked the last few elections? Does the word SIXTY ring a bell?
Can't believe a word this guy says...
| Skleenar | 2009-07-04 12:58:04 PM |
Conservative eminence, Mark Levin, predicts a presidential run.
It's obvious. Quitting when things get tough is exactly what people want in a president.
It's obvious. Quitting when things get tough is exactly what people want in a president.
| tony41454 | 2009-07-04 12:59:54 PM |
technicolor-misfit
Is she dumb for my office or your office? Maybe not SUPER-dumb... (especially for mine, I work in TV... we've got Sarah Palins crawling out of the woodwork ) but we're talking about the OVAL OFFICE.
That's what kills me about people who keep saying "she's not THAT dumb..." Yeah, maybe not compared to my cousin.
At least she's smarter than you. You libs laugh now, but you won't be laughing much when Obama gets impeached (like he should).
Is she dumb for my office or your office? Maybe not SUPER-dumb... (especially for mine, I work in TV... we've got Sarah Palins crawling out of the woodwork ) but we're talking about the OVAL OFFICE.
That's what kills me about people who keep saying "she's not THAT dumb..." Yeah, maybe not compared to my cousin.
At least she's smarter than you. You libs laugh now, but you won't be laughing much when Obama gets impeached (like he should).
| Fark It
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2009-07-04 01:01:10 PM |
My new lolmanndidate, let me show you it:
| Maddogjew
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2009-07-04 01:01:19 PM |
DirkValentine, that is awesome. I'm gonna keep that one and show it to Phil sometime;)
/I'm sure Marla will get a kick out of it as well
/I'm sure Marla will get a kick out of it as well
| Sygerrik | 2009-07-04 01:03:51 PM |
CanisNoir: Shatner's Bassoon: I can't see how. If she bailed on a small state when the press coverage got a little rough, how the fark would she stand up on the world stage where the scrutiny is infinitely more intense?
Part of the problem you're having is that your premise is completely wrong. She didn't quit because press coverage got too difficult, she quit because every time she went out of State, blew her nose or sneezed, someone was filing Ethics complaints against her. Not only was it becoming financially burdensome, but it was adversely effecting her staff and hindering her administrations attempts at pursuing their policy aims. Turning it over to the similar minded but less controversial Lt. Governor she is ensuring that the policy goals she got elected to pursue are actually being pursued. It's a very defensible position.
I agree it was odd and a shock, but in that light, it's also perfectly understandable. If Hillary can run a successful and potential presidential campaign with all the skeletons in her closet, do you really think leaving the Governorship 2 years early is a campaign killer?
Canis, please don't do this. I know you're not a troll. I know you're a smart guy. Do you really buy the ethics complaint story?
Here's the problem: you only have a case if every ethics complaint was frivolous. And some of them were. But the clothes the RNC bought her, Troopergate, the banning of books... these are very real issues. These are issues where, even if it's not clear exactly what happened, it's pretty obvious she did something wrong. I agree that stepping down was the right thing for the state of Alaska, just like how I think Mark Sanford should step down (but he's a loon, so who knows what he'll do). I can't believe it's the right thing for her career, though.
Leaving aside the issue of inexperience, she just painted the biggest target possible on her back for the 2012 primaries. Governor Cut'n'run, Moose in Headlights, Quitting is Not an American Value. Can you see the slogans now? The core of a good campaign is image control. Palin's biggest failure is her utter inability to control her image, compounded by her bizarre and ham-handed attempts to do so. She holds the media in contempt-- one of the reasons it's so hostile to her-- and she doesn't understand why they don't do what she says, which betrays not only a fundamental naivete about the political process but a delusional, self-aggrandizing mindset.
Also, you have to think in terms of a general election. Sarah Palin ignites the base to 1000 degrees, but nobody else likes her. She's operating under the fallacious belief that because her supporters would die for her, they'll get counted twice or three times at the voting booth or something. A politician who inspires undying devotion in 10% of the voting population will be trounced by a politician who is mildly approved of by 51%, especially if, as Palin does, the first politician seems to go out of her way to alienate everyone who's not in the base.
Part of the problem you're having is that your premise is completely wrong. She didn't quit because press coverage got too difficult, she quit because every time she went out of State, blew her nose or sneezed, someone was filing Ethics complaints against her. Not only was it becoming financially burdensome, but it was adversely effecting her staff and hindering her administrations attempts at pursuing their policy aims. Turning it over to the similar minded but less controversial Lt. Governor she is ensuring that the policy goals she got elected to pursue are actually being pursued. It's a very defensible position.
I agree it was odd and a shock, but in that light, it's also perfectly understandable. If Hillary can run a successful and potential presidential campaign with all the skeletons in her closet, do you really think leaving the Governorship 2 years early is a campaign killer?
Canis, please don't do this. I know you're not a troll. I know you're a smart guy. Do you really buy the ethics complaint story?
Here's the problem: you only have a case if every ethics complaint was frivolous. And some of them were. But the clothes the RNC bought her, Troopergate, the banning of books... these are very real issues. These are issues where, even if it's not clear exactly what happened, it's pretty obvious she did something wrong. I agree that stepping down was the right thing for the state of Alaska, just like how I think Mark Sanford should step down (but he's a loon, so who knows what he'll do). I can't believe it's the right thing for her career, though.
Leaving aside the issue of inexperience, she just painted the biggest target possible on her back for the 2012 primaries. Governor Cut'n'run, Moose in Headlights, Quitting is Not an American Value. Can you see the slogans now? The core of a good campaign is image control. Palin's biggest failure is her utter inability to control her image, compounded by her bizarre and ham-handed attempts to do so. She holds the media in contempt-- one of the reasons it's so hostile to her-- and she doesn't understand why they don't do what she says, which betrays not only a fundamental naivete about the political process but a delusional, self-aggrandizing mindset.
Also, you have to think in terms of a general election. Sarah Palin ignites the base to 1000 degrees, but nobody else likes her. She's operating under the fallacious belief that because her supporters would die for her, they'll get counted twice or three times at the voting booth or something. A politician who inspires undying devotion in 10% of the voting population will be trounced by a politician who is mildly approved of by 51%, especially if, as Palin does, the first politician seems to go out of her way to alienate everyone who's not in the base.
| mud_shark | 2009-07-04 01:04:06 PM |
yelmrog: mud_shark
What was it that made you actually pay attention to a governor of Alaska that was resigning?
I'm not 100% sure why she still garners attention, but it may be for the same reason that people still pay attention to Britney Spears.
Who?
Okay, I kid. I know who Spears is just as I know who Michael Jackson is, but I don't give a shiat about them. IMO, Farrah Fawcett got ripped off.
I found out about Jackson's literally as I was leaving to go to a bar (I asked my friend why they hell was there a picture of MJ on his computer). We drank at the bar for at least 2 hours and one of the TVs there NEVER showed us anything except Jackson.
I understand you're not excusing it, but just pointing out the reality - someone must care deeply about these people - can Congress pass a law to just eliminate them from society? (I know, that would probably take an amendment, but IMO it would be worth it).
What was it that made you actually pay attention to a governor of Alaska that was resigning?
I'm not 100% sure why she still garners attention, but it may be for the same reason that people still pay attention to Britney Spears.
Who?
Okay, I kid. I know who Spears is just as I know who Michael Jackson is, but I don't give a shiat about them. IMO, Farrah Fawcett got ripped off.
I found out about Jackson's literally as I was leaving to go to a bar (I asked my friend why they hell was there a picture of MJ on his computer). We drank at the bar for at least 2 hours and one of the TVs there NEVER showed us anything except Jackson.
I understand you're not excusing it, but just pointing out the reality - someone must care deeply about these people - can Congress pass a law to just eliminate them from society? (I know, that would probably take an amendment, but IMO it would be worth it).
| DirkValentine | 2009-07-04 01:04:38 PM |
Maddogjew: DirkValentine, that is awesome. I'm gonna keep that one and show it to Phil sometime;)
/I'm sure Marla will get a kick out of it as well
i almost felt bad for Sarah Palin with that comparison
/I'm sure Marla will get a kick out of it as well
i almost felt bad for Sarah Palin with that comparison
| Praise Cheesus
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2009-07-04 01:07:25 PM |
Benjamin the Rogue: If she ends up in jail, who's gonna run in 2012 with Joe the Plumber?
JC the Carpenter?
JC the Carpenter?
| dave2198 | 2009-07-04 01:07:57 PM |
Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: lstywnch: Chelsea Clinton Is Carrot Top's Lost Twin: they are pretty big.
I couldn't find a good pic of the Wasilla sports complex to compare.
Nor could I. Although I am finding the name "Spenard Builders Supply" popping up a lot. This whole building issue is getting very interesting very quickly.
Although I am surprised Palin would resign over any type of scandal. These days it seems like nothing seems to phase politicians and have to be removed kicking and screaming. Ted "the tubes" Stevens is a perfect example.
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
I couldn't find a good pic of the Wasilla sports complex to compare.
Nor could I. Although I am finding the name "Spenard Builders Supply" popping up a lot. This whole building issue is getting very interesting very quickly.
Although I am surprised Palin would resign over any type of scandal. These days it seems like nothing seems to phase politicians and have to be removed kicking and screaming. Ted "the tubes" Stevens is a perfect example.
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:09:52 PM |
dave2198:
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
Oh. And get "Born Again." Gotta get that Born Again thing in there.
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
Oh. And get "Born Again." Gotta get that Born Again thing in there.
| Maddogjew
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2009-07-04 01:11:12 PM |
tony41454: At least she's smarter than you. You libs laugh now, but you won't be laughing much when Obama gets impeached (like he should).
HA! This isn't 2004. Y'all don't have enough votes in the house or the senate to even bring up the issue. Y'all have been hamstrung by your incredible bad judgment. I love watching you wave your tiny little fist in the air and pretend that anything you say matters in the least. Do you know what the best part is? Y'all are only gonna go further downhill from here. As the old folks die off, your party's demographics shrink. The Hispanics hate you, the gays despise you, the blacks never liked you to begin with and the college educated pick the Democrats 2 to 1 over the Republicans. Schadenfreude is a wonderful thing.
/yes, I'm laughing
//and I'm not laughing with you, but at you
HA! This isn't 2004. Y'all don't have enough votes in the house or the senate to even bring up the issue. Y'all have been hamstrung by your incredible bad judgment. I love watching you wave your tiny little fist in the air and pretend that anything you say matters in the least. Do you know what the best part is? Y'all are only gonna go further downhill from here. As the old folks die off, your party's demographics shrink. The Hispanics hate you, the gays despise you, the blacks never liked you to begin with and the college educated pick the Democrats 2 to 1 over the Republicans. Schadenfreude is a wonderful thing.
/yes, I'm laughing
//and I'm not laughing with you, but at you
| heap | 2009-07-04 01:11:21 PM |
The Why Not Guy: I'll be the first to agree that attacking her children - or any politician's children - is a cheap attack.
absolutely - not in the realm of us internet whackos, as...that's pretty much a million-man-thunderdome, but it should be outta bounds to crack wise at her kids from anybody even thinking of wanting credibility beyond pixels on your screen - and she'd be 100% in the right to call foul on that.
thing is, she calls foul on everything. she expects deference, yet gives nothing but attacks...and makes no bones about it. i just get all quizzical-dogish at seeing it go unrecognized.
absolutely - not in the realm of us internet whackos, as...that's pretty much a million-man-thunderdome, but it should be outta bounds to crack wise at her kids from anybody even thinking of wanting credibility beyond pixels on your screen - and she'd be 100% in the right to call foul on that.
thing is, she calls foul on everything. she expects deference, yet gives nothing but attacks...and makes no bones about it. i just get all quizzical-dogish at seeing it go unrecognized.
| dave2198 | 2009-07-04 01:12:12 PM |
Lenny_da_Hog: dave2198:
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
Oh. And get "Born Again." Gotta get that Born Again thing in there.
Book deal announced in 3...2...1...
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
Oh. And get "Born Again." Gotta get that Born Again thing in there.
Book deal announced in 3...2...1...
| sarasotarockstar | 2009-07-04 01:12:57 PM |
deadapostle: 3:20
Thanks for the tip on the "her kids are farm animals" portion - that literally made me cry from laughter. I wasn't able to make it that far in to the "speech" yesterday.
Thanks for the tip on the "her kids are farm animals" portion - that literally made me cry from laughter. I wasn't able to make it that far in to the "speech" yesterday.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 01:13:25 PM |
dave2198: Lenny_da_Hog: dave2198:
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
Oh. And get "Born Again." Gotta get that Born Again thing in there.
Book deal announced in 3...2...1...
Already announced weeks ago. She's hired the ghost-writer.
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
Oh. And get "Born Again." Gotta get that Born Again thing in there.
Book deal announced in 3...2...1...
Already announced weeks ago. She's hired the ghost-writer.
| Komplex | 2009-07-04 01:13:28 PM |
colon_pow: palin is an existential threat to the democrats. they know this. if she was a buffoon like they claim, she would have faded away after the election.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
D@mn straight, she's GWB 2.0. We didn't think it was possible for him to win in 2000, we didn't think it was possible for him to win in 2004 - but the SOB did it. We're not going to take that risk again - Any republican who's staggeringly incompetent, pridefully ignorant and even the slightest biatcharming we are going to attack with all our might, America can't afford another 8 years of that nonsense.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
D@mn straight, she's GWB 2.0. We didn't think it was possible for him to win in 2000, we didn't think it was possible for him to win in 2004 - but the SOB did it. We're not going to take that risk again - Any republican who's staggeringly incompetent, pridefully ignorant and even the slightest biatcharming we are going to attack with all our might, America can't afford another 8 years of that nonsense.
| dave2198 | 2009-07-04 01:14:55 PM |
Lenny_da_Hog: dave2198: Lenny_da_Hog: dave2198:
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
Oh. And get "Born Again." Gotta get that Born Again thing in there.
Book deal announced in 3...2...1...
Already announced weeks ago. She's hired the ghost-writer.
I wonder if the middle part will fold out.
The only way to salvage her political career is to get out ahead of the scandal. Resign before it can come out under your own power, let it settle for a couple years, hope that they fail to find any evidence, then run again in 2012 if the tide looks right.
Oh. And get "Born Again." Gotta get that Born Again thing in there.
Book deal announced in 3...2...1...
Already announced weeks ago. She's hired the ghost-writer.
I wonder if the middle part will fold out.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 01:21:16 PM |
dave2198: I wonder if the middle part will fold out.
*Shakes tiny fist in envy of your wit.*
Nice one!
*Shakes tiny fist in envy of your wit.*
Nice one!
| NewportBarGuy
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2009-07-04 01:24:02 PM |
wejash: Keep in mind that the U.S. Attorney has discretion to pursue cases in different ways.
For example, they chose not to pursue anything against Spitzer when he resigned.
The Spitzer situation would have been a tough federal case to make and the U.S. Attorney has not been on a roll indicting Alaskan politicians (making Ted Stevens into a victim takes some extra special level stupid).
So, purely speculating my butt off, this could have been a rush deal done to end further digging. The feds can drop pursuing a case which they might lose -- and would no doubt be accused of pursuing purely to "get" an Obama opponent. And she gets to keep her ambitions alive theoretically. Just have to rebuild without being able to prove what a great executive she really is. Er, yeah, that was the claim, right?
Sounds entirely plausible. Until further details are revealed, this makes the most sense.
For example, they chose not to pursue anything against Spitzer when he resigned.
The Spitzer situation would have been a tough federal case to make and the U.S. Attorney has not been on a roll indicting Alaskan politicians (making Ted Stevens into a victim takes some extra special level stupid).
So, purely speculating my butt off, this could have been a rush deal done to end further digging. The feds can drop pursuing a case which they might lose -- and would no doubt be accused of pursuing purely to "get" an Obama opponent. And she gets to keep her ambitions alive theoretically. Just have to rebuild without being able to prove what a great executive she really is. Er, yeah, that was the claim, right?
Sounds entirely plausible. Until further details are revealed, this makes the most sense.
| rnld | 2009-07-04 01:28:43 PM |
Komplex: D@mn straight, she's GWB 2.0
But GWB had a term and a half under his belt as Governor of Texas when he ran in 2000. He also had the Bush dynasty behind him.
He still lost the general election by 500K votes and only won the state controlled by his brother by a few hundred.
Not a viable showing if - 1. you aren't a Bush and 2. The contested state is not run by your brother.
But GWB had a term and a half under his belt as Governor of Texas when he ran in 2000. He also had the Bush dynasty behind him.
He still lost the general election by 500K votes and only won the state controlled by his brother by a few hundred.
Not a viable showing if - 1. you aren't a Bush and 2. The contested state is not run by your brother.
| SVenus | 2009-07-04 01:34:45 PM |
Dr.Zom: Has Fox News called her a Democrat yet?
Came here to say something like this.
Let's start a betting pool as to when the first legit screen capture of Fox putting a (D) after Palin's name hits the internets.
Came here to say something like this.
Let's start a betting pool as to when the first legit screen capture of Fox putting a (D) after Palin's name hits the internets.
| The Fourth Karamazov
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2009-07-04 01:41:49 PM |
FishingWithFredo: detfrost1: Asking someone what farking magazines they read, and they can't even farking read one is a hit job!?
Palin had figured out that Couric wasn't there to do an impartial interview, and was there to play "Gotcha!" on behalf of the political party she works for.
Palin wasn't experienced enough, however, to just get up and walk out of the interview; instead she shut down, and it came off looking bad.
There was also selective editing of the interview to make her look more extreme and less informed.
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
What the fark is the Bush Doctrine? Charles Krauthammer said it changed four times, and Charlie Gibson's reference wasn't the most up-to-date one. Krauthammer's only the one who invented the term and first discussed the Bush Doctrine, and is only about 1,052 times smarter than you or me.
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Right. You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
You think Krauthammer is smart. BWAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAA!
Palin had figured out that Couric wasn't there to do an impartial interview, and was there to play "Gotcha!" on behalf of the political party she works for.
Palin wasn't experienced enough, however, to just get up and walk out of the interview; instead she shut down, and it came off looking bad.
There was also selective editing of the interview to make her look more extreme and less informed.
Asking someone what the Bush Doctrine is, in her opinion, and she can't even bullshiat her way through that is a hit job!?
What the fark is the Bush Doctrine? Charles Krauthammer said it changed four times, and Charlie Gibson's reference wasn't the most up-to-date one. Krauthammer's only the one who invented the term and first discussed the Bush Doctrine, and is only about 1,052 times smarter than you or me.
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Right. You keep holding your liberal meme close at night. Yep, Sarah Palin's the stupidest person who ever walked the earth.
(But what about when she performed better in the debate than Joe "Gaffe-a-Minute" Biden?)
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You're farking up our politically contrived personal attacks and ridicule!
You think Krauthammer is smart. BWAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAA!
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 01:41:52 PM |
FeedTheCollapse: but watching it, you could practically see the bile spewing out of her mouth.
I didn't see that. I saw someone who didn't really want to resign but had to. There were several moments I thought she was going to break down and cry. (I wanted her to cry SOOOOO much.)
I didn't see that. I saw someone who didn't really want to resign but had to. There were several moments I thought she was going to break down and cry. (I wanted her to cry SOOOOO much.)
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 01:44:43 PM |
Bender The Offender: Skookum is whidbey's alt, I recall the thread when he accidentally outed himself.
That was one of the funniest threads evar...
That was one of the funniest threads evar...
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 01:46:57 PM |
brigid_fitch: Yeah, something must have happened. I read that she was talking to an AK legislator on Wed. about enacting some sort of abortion restriction and then 2 days later she announces she's quitting?
Actually, two of the state's top health officials were told not to tell the legislature about the statistics in other states that have enacted parental consent laws. They were told just to make the governor's wishes known and leave it there. Beverly Wooley said she couldn't do that and was fired. Jay Butler said he couldn't do his job and Wooley's too, so he took his old job at the CDC in Atlanta back. Wooley departed on Wednesday.
Actually, two of the state's top health officials were told not to tell the legislature about the statistics in other states that have enacted parental consent laws. They were told just to make the governor's wishes known and leave it there. Beverly Wooley said she couldn't do that and was fired. Jay Butler said he couldn't do his job and Wooley's too, so he took his old job at the CDC in Atlanta back. Wooley departed on Wednesday.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 01:47:46 PM |
lstywnch: Bender The Offender: Skookum is whidbey's alt, I recall the thread when he accidentally outed himself.
That was one of the funniest threads evar...
I don't suppose anyone has a link to this fabled moment? It seems to have occured during one of my infrequent Fark holidays.
That was one of the funniest threads evar...
I don't suppose anyone has a link to this fabled moment? It seems to have occured during one of my infrequent Fark holidays.
| Jakevol2 | 2009-07-04 01:48:52 PM |
lstywnch: Bender The Offender: Skookum is whidbey's alt, I recall the thread when he accidentally outed himself.
That was one of the funniest threads evar...
That it was. And just to think. I have whidbey as a favorite and I was this close to putting skookum on ignore. Then that thread happened, I felt giddy and nauseated at the same time.
That was one of the funniest threads evar...
That it was. And just to think. I have whidbey as a favorite and I was this close to putting skookum on ignore. Then that thread happened, I felt giddy and nauseated at the same time.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 01:49:39 PM |
lstywnch: brigid_fitch: Yeah, something must have happened. I read that she was talking to an AK legislator on Wed. about enacting some sort of abortion restriction and then 2 days later she announces she's quitting?
Actually, two of the state's top health officials were told not to tell the legislature about the statistics in other states that have enacted parental consent laws. They were told just to make the governor's wishes known and leave it there. Beverly Wooley said she couldn't do that and was fired. Jay Butler said he couldn't do his job and Wooley's too, so he took his old job at the CDC in Atlanta back. Wooley departed on Wednesday.
Sounds good. Surely not enough to force a resignation, though?
Actually, two of the state's top health officials were told not to tell the legislature about the statistics in other states that have enacted parental consent laws. They were told just to make the governor's wishes known and leave it there. Beverly Wooley said she couldn't do that and was fired. Jay Butler said he couldn't do his job and Wooley's too, so he took his old job at the CDC in Atlanta back. Wooley departed on Wednesday.
Sounds good. Surely not enough to force a resignation, though?
| ifarkthereforiam | 2009-07-04 01:50:32 PM |
colon_pow: palin is an existential threat to the democrats. they know this. if she was a buffoon like they claim, she would have faded away after the election.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
I sincerely doubt I could come up with a better delusional statement, so I wil decline yor challenge.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
I sincerely doubt I could come up with a better delusional statement, so I wil decline yor challenge.
| elchip
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2009-07-04 01:55:04 PM |
VwlssWndr: Dude, don't diss Odo, he spoke when I graduated from college.
I love Odo. But McCain is crabby (like Odo) and changes his political positions when necessary (like Odo changes shape).
I love Odo. But McCain is crabby (like Odo) and changes his political positions when necessary (like Odo changes shape).
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 02:04:25 PM |
PartTimeBuddha: Sounds good. Surely not enough to force a resignation, though?
Probably not, but reporter hubby just pointed out something else that's smelling a little odd. When Sean Parnell takes over as Governor, he is supposed to be replaced by Joe Schmidt, the director of Corrections. This was certified by the legislature a LOOOONG time ago. However, for some bizzarro reason Palin has named Lt. General Craig Campbell, head of the AK National Guard and commissioner of the department of military and veteran's affairs, as Parnell's replacement.
Probably not, but reporter hubby just pointed out something else that's smelling a little odd. When Sean Parnell takes over as Governor, he is supposed to be replaced by Joe Schmidt, the director of Corrections. This was certified by the legislature a LOOOONG time ago. However, for some bizzarro reason Palin has named Lt. General Craig Campbell, head of the AK National Guard and commissioner of the department of military and veteran's affairs, as Parnell's replacement.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 02:17:51 PM |
lstywnch: PartTimeBuddha: Sounds good. Surely not enough to force a resignation, though?
Probably not, but reporter hubby just pointed out something else that's smelling a little odd. When Sean Parnell takes over as Governor, he is supposed to be replaced by Joe Schmidt, the director of Corrections. This was certified by the legislature a LOOOONG time ago. However, for some bizzarro reason Palin has named Lt. General Craig Campbell, head of the AK National Guard and commissioner of the department of military and veteran's affairs, as Parnell's replacement.
That kind of scared me. I had to deal with Craig a lot on Assembly issues. He can be a real, true partisan dickhead.
(I was also kind of stupefied that I didn't notice he'd been put in the military oversight position... I though he'd gone back to private industry. Bad, Lenny. Bad, bad Lenny.)
Probably not, but reporter hubby just pointed out something else that's smelling a little odd. When Sean Parnell takes over as Governor, he is supposed to be replaced by Joe Schmidt, the director of Corrections. This was certified by the legislature a LOOOONG time ago. However, for some bizzarro reason Palin has named Lt. General Craig Campbell, head of the AK National Guard and commissioner of the department of military and veteran's affairs, as Parnell's replacement.
That kind of scared me. I had to deal with Craig a lot on Assembly issues. He can be a real, true partisan dickhead.
(I was also kind of stupefied that I didn't notice he'd been put in the military oversight position... I though he'd gone back to private industry. Bad, Lenny. Bad, bad Lenny.)
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 02:18:13 PM |
lstywnch: PartTimeBuddha: Sounds good. Surely not enough to force a resignation, though?
Probably not, but reporter hubby just pointed out something else that's smelling a little odd. When Sean Parnell takes over as Governor, he is supposed to be replaced by Joe Schmidt, the director of Corrections. This was certified by the legislature a LOOOONG time ago. However, for some bizzarro reason Palin has named Lt. General Craig Campbell, head of the AK National Guard and commissioner of the department of military and veteran's affairs, as Parnell's replacement.
Ohhhhh: Link (new window)
Here's one we haven't even thought about. Now if something came of this investigation, that would explain the resignation AND naming Campbell to replaced Parnell instead of keeping Schmidt.
Probably not, but reporter hubby just pointed out something else that's smelling a little odd. When Sean Parnell takes over as Governor, he is supposed to be replaced by Joe Schmidt, the director of Corrections. This was certified by the legislature a LOOOONG time ago. However, for some bizzarro reason Palin has named Lt. General Craig Campbell, head of the AK National Guard and commissioner of the department of military and veteran's affairs, as Parnell's replacement.
Ohhhhh: Link (new window)
Here's one we haven't even thought about. Now if something came of this investigation, that would explain the resignation AND naming Campbell to replaced Parnell instead of keeping Schmidt.
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 02:18:51 PM |
Lenny_da_Hog: That kind of scared me. I had to deal with Craig a lot on Assembly issues. He can be a real, true partisan dickhead.
(I was also kind of stupefied that I didn't notice he'd been put in the military oversight position... I though he'd gone back to private industry. Bad, Lenny. Bad, bad Lenny.)
Yeah, but read that blog post. Something nasty going on with prisons mayhaps?
(I was also kind of stupefied that I didn't notice he'd been put in the military oversight position... I though he'd gone back to private industry. Bad, Lenny. Bad, bad Lenny.)
Yeah, but read that blog post. Something nasty going on with prisons mayhaps?
| sarasotarockstar | 2009-07-04 02:19:20 PM |
colon_pow: palin is an existential threat to the democrats. they know this. if she was a buffoon like they claim, she would have faded away after the election.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
And we wanted her to fade away. Not our fault she wouldn't shut up and go back to governing Alaska.
I realize you're just trolling, however it brings up a larger point I haven't seen talked about much. She WAS quiet for a while but for the last couple months she seemed to keep putting herself out there into the news. I couldn't figure out why she was still relevant or what she was up to.
democrats know that they need to destroy her, at all costs. It's a matter of political life and death.
carry on farktards. do your best.
And we wanted her to fade away. Not our fault she wouldn't shut up and go back to governing Alaska.
I realize you're just trolling, however it brings up a larger point I haven't seen talked about much. She WAS quiet for a while but for the last couple months she seemed to keep putting herself out there into the news. I couldn't figure out why she was still relevant or what she was up to.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 02:25:18 PM |
lstywnch: Lenny_da_Hog: That kind of scared me. I had to deal with Craig a lot on Assembly issues. He can be a real, true partisan dickhead.
(I was also kind of stupefied that I didn't notice he'd been put in the military oversight position... I though he'd gone back to private industry. Bad, Lenny. Bad, bad Lenny.)
Yeah, but read that blog post. Something nasty going on with prisons mayhaps?
Probably just her way of making AK prisons look bad so we can pay for more private prisons. Pete Kott's gonna need a job, after all.
(I was also kind of stupefied that I didn't notice he'd been put in the military oversight position... I though he'd gone back to private industry. Bad, Lenny. Bad, bad Lenny.)
Yeah, but read that blog post. Something nasty going on with prisons mayhaps?
Probably just her way of making AK prisons look bad so we can pay for more private prisons. Pete Kott's gonna need a job, after all.
| SpookyBlues | 2009-07-04 02:25:56 PM |
For all those people that say, oh she's gonna run in 2012. No, she isn't. In the "speech" she is clearly panicking. She is nearly crying at the podium. I don't give Sarah Palin much credit but I know that given enough prep she can deliver a good speech. That was near hysteria. That speech is not the foundation of a presidential run, that's the sound you hear when someone's going to be indicted for something serious that will stick hard.
Whether or not this Brad dude is right about the embezzlement, something scared the crap out of Palin.
A second point to add is she would have to win the republican primaries in order to run. And the repub primaries will either be a snooze or a bruising mudbath that makes the '08 demo primaries look like a tea party. With that wierd resignation hanging over her, people would be wondering whether or not she has the determination and dedication to be president. Unless the field is made of ineligible whackos, she would not survive it.
Whether or not this Brad dude is right about the embezzlement, something scared the crap out of Palin.
A second point to add is she would have to win the republican primaries in order to run. And the repub primaries will either be a snooze or a bruising mudbath that makes the '08 demo primaries look like a tea party. With that wierd resignation hanging over her, people would be wondering whether or not she has the determination and dedication to be president. Unless the field is made of ineligible whackos, she would not survive it.
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 02:26:50 PM |
Lenny_da_Hog: Probably just her way of making AK prisons look bad so we can pay for more private prisons. Pete Kott's gonna need a job, after all
Yeah, but it's still a little weird. Why pick someone just in case, then when the time comes pick someone different? I wonder if there is something going on with the wrongful death suit on that guy that died of tuberculosis while he was incarcerated in Arizona.
Yeah, but it's still a little weird. Why pick someone just in case, then when the time comes pick someone different? I wonder if there is something going on with the wrongful death suit on that guy that died of tuberculosis while he was incarcerated in Arizona.
| Stay Cool Babylon | 2009-07-04 02:34:08 PM |
Tor_Eckman: Free Radical: If this turns out to be true how the hell will Fox News backpedal their way out of all the slathering that went on yesterday?
They won't. It will all be spun as a conspiracy by the left to disgrace and destroy their queen. Like dogboy, they will never admit that she is completely unfit to hold any position higher than game warden.
Oh, this. A favorite tactic of fundies and and/or the new 'conservatives'is to whip up support by claiming to be the target of some organized camapign against them. People are natural suckers for being part of an "us v them" situation. We may find that Palin was on film doing meth with a teenager, and FOX (along with their ilk) would find a way to turn it into a clear case of character assassination.
Seriously, have you ever heard them try to explain the Ollie North phenomenon? He's not a treasonous criminal...no. He's clearly the target of liberal hate! Why do you liberals fear the truth? Why must you insist upon bringing Real Americans down to your level?
They won't. It will all be spun as a conspiracy by the left to disgrace and destroy their queen. Like dogboy, they will never admit that she is completely unfit to hold any position higher than game warden.
Oh, this. A favorite tactic of fundies and and/or the new 'conservatives'is to whip up support by claiming to be the target of some organized camapign against them. People are natural suckers for being part of an "us v them" situation. We may find that Palin was on film doing meth with a teenager, and FOX (along with their ilk) would find a way to turn it into a clear case of character assassination.
Seriously, have you ever heard them try to explain the Ollie North phenomenon? He's not a treasonous criminal...no. He's clearly the target of liberal hate! Why do you liberals fear the truth? Why must you insist upon bringing Real Americans down to your level?
| Rann Xerox | 2009-07-04 02:38:33 PM |
Free Radical: If this turns out to be true how the hell will Fox News backpedal their way out of all the slathering that went on yesterday?
They'll just put a "(D)" after her name.
They'll just put a "(D)" after her name.
| JSTACAT
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2009-07-04 02:57:03 PM |
Roook: This is what happens when women get into politics are allowed to vote"
// ftfy
// my campaign in 2020 will be based on all women staying home, barefoot and pregnant, far away from the voting booth.
// ftfy
// my campaign in 2020 will be based on all women staying home, barefoot and pregnant, far away from the voting booth.
| t3knomanser | 2009-07-04 03:13:29 PM |
rnld: And when Bush ran for President in 2000 while the Governor of Texas?
McCain as a US Senator?
Palin as the Governor of Alaska?
Yep. If you wish to seek another office, at least have the balls to step down from the one you currently hold. I understand that a politician's greatest fear is a "real job", and so they're loathe to risk their position of power and privilege to seek out a position of higher power and privilege, but that should be required, in my opinion.
McCain as a US Senator?
Palin as the Governor of Alaska?
Yep. If you wish to seek another office, at least have the balls to step down from the one you currently hold. I understand that a politician's greatest fear is a "real job", and so they're loathe to risk their position of power and privilege to seek out a position of higher power and privilege, but that should be required, in my opinion.
| SubBass49 | 2009-07-04 03:16:10 PM |
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 03:17:25 PM |
t3knomanser: rnld: And when Bush ran for President in 2000 while the Governor of Texas?
McCain as a US Senator?
Palin as the Governor of Alaska?
Yep. If you wish to seek another office, at least have the balls to step down from the one you currently hold. I understand that a politician's greatest fear is a "real job", and so they're loathe to risk their position of power and privilege to seek out a position of higher power and privilege, but that should be required, in my opinion.
I believe both Bush and Clinton passed responsibility to their Lieutenants during the campaign, at least. Sarah didn't do that.
McCain as a US Senator?
Palin as the Governor of Alaska?
Yep. If you wish to seek another office, at least have the balls to step down from the one you currently hold. I understand that a politician's greatest fear is a "real job", and so they're loathe to risk their position of power and privilege to seek out a position of higher power and privilege, but that should be required, in my opinion.
I believe both Bush and Clinton passed responsibility to their Lieutenants during the campaign, at least. Sarah didn't do that.
| Majick Thise
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2009-07-04 03:23:33 PM |
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 03:28:00 PM |
Magick Thise:
Heh. We both picked the same for Biden.
(from original thread way back when....)
Heh. We both picked the same for Biden.
(from original thread way back when....)
| rnld | 2009-07-04 03:42:28 PM |
t3knomanser: If you wish to seek another office, at least have the balls to step down from the one you currently hold. I understand that a politician's greatest fear is a "real job", and so they're loathe to risk their position of power and privilege to seek out a position of higher power and privilege, but that should be required, in my opinion
She is seeking a job that will not be available until 2 years after her term expires.
She is seeking a job that will not be available until 2 years after her term expires.
| Skleenar | 2009-07-04 04:08:50 PM |
Damn.
Embezzlement, huh? You wouldn't think that a good Christian like Sarah would get caught up in stuff like that.
It must feel good to be gangster.
Embezzlement, huh? You wouldn't think that a good Christian like Sarah would get caught up in stuff like that.
It must feel good to be gangster.
| OgreMagi | 2009-07-04 04:11:33 PM |
JSTACAT: Roook: This is what happens when women get into politics are allowed to vote"
// ftfy
// my campaign in 2020 will be based on all women staying home, barefoot and pregnant, far away from the voting booth.
Seems reasonable. The first thing women did when they got the vote was get Prohibition passed. We should have taken their vote away the moment they did that.
// ftfy
// my campaign in 2020 will be based on all women staying home, barefoot and pregnant, far away from the voting booth.
Seems reasonable. The first thing women did when they got the vote was get Prohibition passed. We should have taken their vote away the moment they did that.
| bronyaur1
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2009-07-04 04:11:39 PM |
cchris_39: Antonio_Talibanderas: Not when one of her biggest problems as a national candidate was that she was still a little green and needed more experience governing. I recall Pat Buchanan lecturing Chris Matthews on this - something like: "she needs to go back to Alaska, continue to govern with tremendous popularity and support and come back in 2012 with a record of successful conservative leadership."
Ya know, 20 years ago I would have agreed with you - well ok 2 years ago. But things have changed. Obama was just as green, probably even worse. But despite what the press says, ideology IS important. Obama is an ideologue, so is Palin, so was Reagan. That's why the Dem's fear her, they know she is the mirror to Obama.
Stop taking drugs. It's affecting your reasoning. NOBODY in the Democratic party is afraid of this idiot.
Ya know, 20 years ago I would have agreed with you - well ok 2 years ago. But things have changed. Obama was just as green, probably even worse. But despite what the press says, ideology IS important. Obama is an ideologue, so is Palin, so was Reagan. That's why the Dem's fear her, they know she is the mirror to Obama.
Stop taking drugs. It's affecting your reasoning. NOBODY in the Democratic party is afraid of this idiot.
| ToeKnee666 | 2009-07-04 04:12:21 PM |
| ayenull | 2009-07-04 04:14:45 PM |
ToeKnee666: eyehate: The only thing that would make this even better is finding out Letterman got her axed.
lol
lol
| JonZ1618 | 2009-07-04 04:19:35 PM |
| JonZ1618 | 2009-07-04 04:29:25 PM |
| Lionel Mandrake
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2009-07-04 04:34:53 PM |
Skleenar: Damn.
Embezzlement, huh? You wouldn't think that a good Christian like Sarah would get caught up in stuff like that.
I guess that exorcism didn't take.
Embezzlement, huh? You wouldn't think that a good Christian like Sarah would get caught up in stuff like that.
I guess that exorcism didn't take.
| technicolor-misfit | 2009-07-04 04:45:04 PM |
CanisNoir - yelmrog: This is a woman who, when asked about which magazines she was fond of, could not name one. Not one. Couldn't even throw one out there and fake it. I mean, what was the deal there?
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
You're not qualified to be VP or POTUS either.
This is precisely the problem. People think she's not dumb because to them, she seems as smart as they are. I don't say this for the sake of insulting you, but if you don't see how dumb Sarah Palin is, the odds are pretty good that it's because you're on or below the same rung of the ladder.
To be a bit blunt in explaining what I'm talking about, do you think retarded people know how dumb they are? I mean, it's probably so extreme that they realize there's a fundamental difference in the way they think and the way everyone else thinks... but they don't have the intellect to grasp the difference. They don't understand what they can't understand.
They believe the things they believe are right just like everyone else... otherwise they wouldn't believe them. The problem is they're using a faulty or less efficient apparatus to arrive at their beliefs. They're less capable of properly implementing reason and logic and perception. No matter how hard they try or how much they work at it, they simply will not ever have an apparatus capable of grasping trigonometry. They're as physically incapable of it as I am physically incapable of throwing a 100 MPH fastball or levitating a pencil with my mind.
Moreover, do you think they know how dumb other retarded people are? Being unable to grasp their own limitations, they are unable to see those same limitations in others of comparable intellect... because they're operating on the same intellectual level.
I can SEE how dumb Sarah Palin is with the very same clarity with which you can see how dumb retarded people are... or even the real-life equivalents of Forrest Gump or Karl Lee from Sling Blade... people where there are no physical indicators, but the deficit is clearly visible just the same. I can see it and hear it because I'm a lot smarter than she is. I can see and hear it in the language she uses and the way she conveys ideas and perceives the things around her. I and a lot of other people can see it as clear as day.
When someone says they can't see it, I'm forced to conclude that they're operating at a comparable level.
"She's just as smart as me" doesn't mean much when you're not that smart.
The fact is that there are some people who can think circles around you. There are people that can comprehend things that won't even fit in my brain. It's like a dog whistle... just because you can't hear it doesn't mean it's not there.
Nearly everyone thinks they're smart, but 50% of people are of below average intelligence. Contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, you can't run out and become a world champion boxer just because you want it bad enough and you can't be the bestest leader of the free world ever just because you're convinced that you're as smart as anyone else... because you're simply not as anyone else. Neither am I... and I'm pretty goddamn smart.
You know, I don't read a single damn magazine; not a one. I read the internet and watch some cable, but Magazines, couldn't be bothered. So given the same question, under the same pressure, I'd probably bumble that one too.
You're not qualified to be VP or POTUS either.
This is precisely the problem. People think she's not dumb because to them, she seems as smart as they are. I don't say this for the sake of insulting you, but if you don't see how dumb Sarah Palin is, the odds are pretty good that it's because you're on or below the same rung of the ladder.
To be a bit blunt in explaining what I'm talking about, do you think retarded people know how dumb they are? I mean, it's probably so extreme that they realize there's a fundamental difference in the way they think and the way everyone else thinks... but they don't have the intellect to grasp the difference. They don't understand what they can't understand.
They believe the things they believe are right just like everyone else... otherwise they wouldn't believe them. The problem is they're using a faulty or less efficient apparatus to arrive at their beliefs. They're less capable of properly implementing reason and logic and perception. No matter how hard they try or how much they work at it, they simply will not ever have an apparatus capable of grasping trigonometry. They're as physically incapable of it as I am physically incapable of throwing a 100 MPH fastball or levitating a pencil with my mind.
Moreover, do you think they know how dumb other retarded people are? Being unable to grasp their own limitations, they are unable to see those same limitations in others of comparable intellect... because they're operating on the same intellectual level.
I can SEE how dumb Sarah Palin is with the very same clarity with which you can see how dumb retarded people are... or even the real-life equivalents of Forrest Gump or Karl Lee from Sling Blade... people where there are no physical indicators, but the deficit is clearly visible just the same. I can see it and hear it because I'm a lot smarter than she is. I can see and hear it in the language she uses and the way she conveys ideas and perceives the things around her. I and a lot of other people can see it as clear as day.
When someone says they can't see it, I'm forced to conclude that they're operating at a comparable level.
"She's just as smart as me" doesn't mean much when you're not that smart.
The fact is that there are some people who can think circles around you. There are people that can comprehend things that won't even fit in my brain. It's like a dog whistle... just because you can't hear it doesn't mean it's not there.
Nearly everyone thinks they're smart, but 50% of people are of below average intelligence. Contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, you can't run out and become a world champion boxer just because you want it bad enough and you can't be the bestest leader of the free world ever just because you're convinced that you're as smart as anyone else... because you're simply not as anyone else. Neither am I... and I'm pretty goddamn smart.
| Ms.Maus | 2009-07-04 04:46:56 PM |
OgreMagi: JSTACAT: Roook: This is what happens when women get into politics are allowed to vote"
// ftfy
// my campaign in 2020 will be based on all women staying home, barefoot and pregnant, far away from the voting booth.
Seems reasonable. The first thing women did when they got the vote was get Prohibition passed. We should have taken their vote away the moment they did that.
While you guys may be kidding, that's what Ann Coulter writes (new window), too.
// ftfy
// my campaign in 2020 will be based on all women staying home, barefoot and pregnant, far away from the voting booth.
Seems reasonable. The first thing women did when they got the vote was get Prohibition passed. We should have taken their vote away the moment they did that.
While you guys may be kidding, that's what Ann Coulter writes (new window), too.
| technicolor-misfit | 2009-07-04 04:52:32 PM |
er. - "Nearly everyone thinks they're smart, but 50% of people are of below average intelligence. Contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe, you can't run out and become a world champion boxer just because you want it bad enough and you can't be the bestest leader of the free world ever just because you're convinced that you're as smart as anyone else... because you're simply not. as anyone else. Neither am I... and I'm pretty goddamn smart."
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 04:54:58 PM |
technicolor-misfit: This is precisely the problem. People think she's not dumb because to them, she seems as smart as they are. I don't say this for the sake of being insulting, but if someone can't see how dumb Sarah Palin is, the odds are pretty good that it's because they're on or below the same rung of the ladder.
I think that puts it a little more fairly.
(Though I anguish over the someone/they're plural a little.)
I think that puts it a little more fairly.
(Though I anguish over the someone/they're plural a little.)
| technicolor-misfit | 2009-07-04 05:05:10 PM |
PartTimeBuddha - technicolor-misfit: This is precisely the problem. People think she's not dumb because to them, she seems as smart as they are. I don't say this for the sake of being insulting, but if someone can't see how dumb Sarah Palin is, the odds are pretty good that it's because they're on or below the same rung of the ladder.
I think that puts it a little more fairly.
(Though I anguish over the someone/they're plural a little.)
You're absolutely right and I appreciate the edit. That's a much better way to put it.
I think that puts it a little more fairly.
(Though I anguish over the someone/they're plural a little.)
You're absolutely right and I appreciate the edit. That's a much better way to put it.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 05:16:04 PM |
technicolor-misfit: "She's just as smart as me" doesn't mean much when you're not that smart.
My difficulty isn't so much that. There are many different types of smarts, though they do have one thing in common: the knack of paying attention. My problem, with Palin, is that I very often cannot understand a single damned thing she's trying to say.
I had to watch the resignation gush three times before I could parse the godawful monotone screech into something with rhetorical meaning. She is the most appalling communicator. It's as if someone had taken the text of Finnegan's Wake, painted it red white & blue, ran it through a shredder and then stapled individual fragments to the foreheads of the True Believers with a nailgun.
The people she's talking to want to believe the wisdom of the words that come out of her mouth, even though it's utter garbage--illogical, self-contradictory, unsubstantiated, poor and dishonest and everything else awful. But they want to believe it's fine stuff, so they suspend their disbelief and do so. Because of the team and abortion and Jesus and all those things.
The issue isn't her (or their) intelligence. It's belief and the need to believe that if you close your eyes and wish real hard and knock the heels of your shoes together three times that Sarah will come good and there won't be any corruption and there won't be any vindictiveness and that abstinence-only does work and ... everything else.
Sarah Palin is not just a woman in Alaska. She is a compelling story, once you invest in her. What is fascinating is that she is such an inutterably poor and compromised candidate that you really do have to be in a kind of fugue-state to deny all the horror she contains.
She is a tale, told of an idiot.
My difficulty isn't so much that. There are many different types of smarts, though they do have one thing in common: the knack of paying attention. My problem, with Palin, is that I very often cannot understand a single damned thing she's trying to say.
I had to watch the resignation gush three times before I could parse the godawful monotone screech into something with rhetorical meaning. She is the most appalling communicator. It's as if someone had taken the text of Finnegan's Wake, painted it red white & blue, ran it through a shredder and then stapled individual fragments to the foreheads of the True Believers with a nailgun.
The people she's talking to want to believe the wisdom of the words that come out of her mouth, even though it's utter garbage--illogical, self-contradictory, unsubstantiated, poor and dishonest and everything else awful. But they want to believe it's fine stuff, so they suspend their disbelief and do so. Because of the team and abortion and Jesus and all those things.
The issue isn't her (or their) intelligence. It's belief and the need to believe that if you close your eyes and wish real hard and knock the heels of your shoes together three times that Sarah will come good and there won't be any corruption and there won't be any vindictiveness and that abstinence-only does work and ... everything else.
Sarah Palin is not just a woman in Alaska. She is a compelling story, once you invest in her. What is fascinating is that she is such an inutterably poor and compromised candidate that you really do have to be in a kind of fugue-state to deny all the horror she contains.
She is a tale, told of an idiot.
| rnld | 2009-07-04 05:24:28 PM |
Palin was picked for the VP slot when Hillary was not Obama's pick.
They looked around, made a bad choice in that they thought ANY woman would pick up the Hillary voters, and ended up with someone who was so far out of her league in every way that even her instant celebrity could not help the ticket.
They tried to bolster their chances by making Joe The Plumber the GOP hero.
Then, after Obama is elected they choose Michael Steele to head the GOP.
So many missteps it's hard to follow.
They looked around, made a bad choice in that they thought ANY woman would pick up the Hillary voters, and ended up with someone who was so far out of her league in every way that even her instant celebrity could not help the ticket.
They tried to bolster their chances by making Joe The Plumber the GOP hero.
Then, after Obama is elected they choose Michael Steele to head the GOP.
So many missteps it's hard to follow.
| Casanova.Frankensteir | 2009-07-04 05:37:05 PM |
PartTimeBuddha: The issue isn't her (or their) intelligence.
Well.. I have to say I think it is, to a degree. Cruise thru Freepertown or HotAir and note all the comments that say Sarah makes perfect sense, while Obama is incoherent because you "can't understand what he's talking about half the time". Ummm, I have an alternate theory about that, kids...
However, that being said:
It's belief and the need to believe that if you close your eyes and wish real hard and knock the heels of your shoes together three times that Sarah will come good and there won't be any corruption and there won't be any vindictiveness and that abstinence-only does work and ... everything else.
Agreed times eleventy. Even if next week she's indicted, arrested, and then goes on Barbara Walters and outright confesses to some heinous crime, her true believers will still say it was the media and the libruls and that awful "Barry" who framed her, and we all know it. There will be no convincing them, ever. It's a waste of time to try.
But I don't have any particular desire to see her life destroyed. There are worse human beings on the planet than poor ignorant deluded Sarah. If she just goes away, makes a lovely living off speaking engagements for the rest of her life, and no longer has any governmental authority over the public ever again, I'm cool with that.
Well.. I have to say I think it is, to a degree. Cruise thru Freepertown or HotAir and note all the comments that say Sarah makes perfect sense, while Obama is incoherent because you "can't understand what he's talking about half the time". Ummm, I have an alternate theory about that, kids...
However, that being said:
It's belief and the need to believe that if you close your eyes and wish real hard and knock the heels of your shoes together three times that Sarah will come good and there won't be any corruption and there won't be any vindictiveness and that abstinence-only does work and ... everything else.
Agreed times eleventy. Even if next week she's indicted, arrested, and then goes on Barbara Walters and outright confesses to some heinous crime, her true believers will still say it was the media and the libruls and that awful "Barry" who framed her, and we all know it. There will be no convincing them, ever. It's a waste of time to try.
But I don't have any particular desire to see her life destroyed. There are worse human beings on the planet than poor ignorant deluded Sarah. If she just goes away, makes a lovely living off speaking engagements for the rest of her life, and no longer has any governmental authority over the public ever again, I'm cool with that.
| Benevolent Misanthrope
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2009-07-04 05:40:17 PM |
rnld: Palin was picked for the VP slot when Hillary was not Obama's pick.
They looked around, made a bad choice in that they thought ANY woman would pick up the Hillary voters, and ended up with someone who was so far out of her league in every way that even her instant celebrity could not help the ticket.
I keep wondering if it wasn't really as simple as that. They needed a woman, they needed someone who would complement the "mavrik"-y-ness of McCain's message. A nice pair of gams didn't hurt, and would appeal to a male-dominated party that hasn't had a looker to admire for a while. They needed someone with enough ambition to do whatever she had to do to get ahead, and not ask too many questions.
What they didn;t count on was her self-image and unshakable belief that she's running the show.
They looked around, made a bad choice in that they thought ANY woman would pick up the Hillary voters, and ended up with someone who was so far out of her league in every way that even her instant celebrity could not help the ticket.
I keep wondering if it wasn't really as simple as that. They needed a woman, they needed someone who would complement the "mavrik"-y-ness of McCain's message. A nice pair of gams didn't hurt, and would appeal to a male-dominated party that hasn't had a looker to admire for a while. They needed someone with enough ambition to do whatever she had to do to get ahead, and not ask too many questions.
What they didn;t count on was her self-image and unshakable belief that she's running the show.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 05:41:39 PM |
Casanova.Frankensteir: PartTimeBuddha: The issue isn't her (or their) intelligence.
Well.. I have to say I think it is, to a degree. Cruise thru Freepertown or HotAir and note all the comments that say Sarah makes perfect sense, while Obama is incoherent because you "can't understand what he's talking about half the time". Ummm, I have an alternate theory about that, kids...
You're right. I should have been clearer. I ought to have said:
"The issue isn't her (or their) intelligence, but their willing suspension of that intelligence because..." (of their beliefs/need to believe).
I was trying to get across the point that some very bright people can be extremely dim, on times.
Well.. I have to say I think it is, to a degree. Cruise thru Freepertown or HotAir and note all the comments that say Sarah makes perfect sense, while Obama is incoherent because you "can't understand what he's talking about half the time". Ummm, I have an alternate theory about that, kids...
You're right. I should have been clearer. I ought to have said:
"The issue isn't her (or their) intelligence, but their willing suspension of that intelligence because..." (of their beliefs/need to believe).
I was trying to get across the point that some very bright people can be extremely dim, on times.
| Wasilla Hillbilly | 2009-07-04 05:47:45 PM |
I hope she is indicted for something. It's been an interesting ride, and she put my hometown in the nation's consciousness, but I'm just ready for her to go away.
| Satyagraha | 2009-07-04 05:59:17 PM |
"same windows, same wood, same products."
If I could just remember...there was story how Todd supposedly designed and built the house but the neighbors had said contractors came in to build the thing...
kind of a coinkydink the house was built at the exact same time as the sports complex.
From October 2008...
Link (new window)
If I could just remember...there was story how Todd supposedly designed and built the house but the neighbors had said contractors came in to build the thing...
kind of a coinkydink the house was built at the exact same time as the sports complex.
From October 2008...
Link (new window)
| farbles | 2009-07-04 06:21:28 PM |
Here's what I see as possibilities.
1. She's going to be hit by some sort of scandal. Whatever it is, it's going to be the iceberg to her Titanic, and she's jumping ship now. When you consider the sorts of scandals people have survived politically in the past, this one should be a doozy if true.
2. Someone with clout told her to go away, now. Explains the sudden resignation and the taking it for the team metaphor but who could have that much clout?
3. She suddenly snapped at all the press with the Vanity Fair piece being the straw that broke the camel's back. It is not easy living any person's life with the whole world's attention focused on you ever but when you're the constant butt of everyone's jokes, it must be awful tempting to just say screw it, I'm going home, and let the world go elsewhere for its finger-pointing. I'd give her props if this one's true and we never see her again.
/thank God for the fools. Without them the rest of us would look none too good.
1. She's going to be hit by some sort of scandal. Whatever it is, it's going to be the iceberg to her Titanic, and she's jumping ship now. When you consider the sorts of scandals people have survived politically in the past, this one should be a doozy if true.
2. Someone with clout told her to go away, now. Explains the sudden resignation and the taking it for the team metaphor but who could have that much clout?
3. She suddenly snapped at all the press with the Vanity Fair piece being the straw that broke the camel's back. It is not easy living any person's life with the whole world's attention focused on you ever but when you're the constant butt of everyone's jokes, it must be awful tempting to just say screw it, I'm going home, and let the world go elsewhere for its finger-pointing. I'd give her props if this one's true and we never see her again.
/thank God for the fools. Without them the rest of us would look none too good.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 06:31:47 PM |
farbles: Here's what I see as possibilities.
1. She's going to be hit by some sort of scandal. Whatever it is, it's going to be the iceberg to her Titanic, and she's jumping ship now.
Suitably enough, they're calling this the "Iceberg Scandal."
/not making that up. Google news it.
1. She's going to be hit by some sort of scandal. Whatever it is, it's going to be the iceberg to her Titanic, and she's jumping ship now.
Suitably enough, they're calling this the "Iceberg Scandal."
/not making that up. Google news it.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-04 06:49:55 PM |
farbles: When you consider the sorts of scandals people have survived politically in the past, this one should be a doozy if true.
Anti-corruption candidate is corrupt? That would finish you.
farbles: It is not easy living any person's life with the whole world's attention focused on you ever but when you're the constant butt of everyone's jokes, it must be awful tempting to just say screw it, I'm going home, and let the world go elsewhere for its finger-pointing
Heh. This, but with an important addition. It's impossible for you to Wield Terrifying Power when people cease to take you seriously.
farbles: 2. Someone with clout told her to go away, now. Explains the sudden resignation and the taking it for the team metaphor but who could have that much clout?
Has she disappointed or been a significant liability to anyone, recently? Maybe someone with a bit of a temper, quite a lot of connections up on the Hill... someone not famous for forgiveness? Someone who has been exquisitely and extraordinarily quiet about things regarding her for several months?
Anti-corruption candidate is corrupt? That would finish you.
farbles: It is not easy living any person's life with the whole world's attention focused on you ever but when you're the constant butt of everyone's jokes, it must be awful tempting to just say screw it, I'm going home, and let the world go elsewhere for its finger-pointing
Heh. This, but with an important addition. It's impossible for you to Wield Terrifying Power when people cease to take you seriously.
farbles: 2. Someone with clout told her to go away, now. Explains the sudden resignation and the taking it for the team metaphor but who could have that much clout?
Has she disappointed or been a significant liability to anyone, recently? Maybe someone with a bit of a temper, quite a lot of connections up on the Hill... someone not famous for forgiveness? Someone who has been exquisitely and extraordinarily quiet about things regarding her for several months?
| rnld | 2009-07-04 07:10:02 PM |
A big issue for Palin is you never know what's lurking behind the scenes.
She took the VP slot on the family values ticket knowing her underage, unmarried daughter was pregnant.
She told the world that they would get married - and many doubted this would happen.
The minute her ticket lost, the boyfriend was wished into the cornfield.
It is amazing the level of "forgiveness" Palin gets from conservatives considering how full of BS she is.
She quits because she doesn't want to be a lame duck and just collect a paycheck. Um how about working at the job you were elected to do?
How about becase your poll numbers as Governor don't matter anymore, working your tail off making this right for you state, doing a great job and then running for President?
This is weird stuff here.
She took the VP slot on the family values ticket knowing her underage, unmarried daughter was pregnant.
She told the world that they would get married - and many doubted this would happen.
The minute her ticket lost, the boyfriend was wished into the cornfield.
It is amazing the level of "forgiveness" Palin gets from conservatives considering how full of BS she is.
She quits because she doesn't want to be a lame duck and just collect a paycheck. Um how about working at the job you were elected to do?
How about becase your poll numbers as Governor don't matter anymore, working your tail off making this right for you state, doing a great job and then running for President?
This is weird stuff here.
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-04 07:16:51 PM |
rnld:
The minute her ticket lost, the boyfriend was wished into the cornfield.
I think they're going to have to do a lot more wishing. Levi is looking to sell a tell-all book, he announced yesterday.
The minute her ticket lost, the boyfriend was wished into the cornfield.
I think they're going to have to do a lot more wishing. Levi is looking to sell a tell-all book, he announced yesterday.
| The Why Not Guy
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2009-07-04 07:25:46 PM |
| rnld | 2009-07-04 07:25:51 PM |
Lenny_da_Hog: rnld:
The minute her ticket lost, the boyfriend was wished into the cornfield.
I think they're going to have to do a lot more wishing. Levi is looking to sell a tell-all book, he announced yesterday.
Can you imagine when the right wing media will work to discredit this guy?
It will be over the top insane.
The minute her ticket lost, the boyfriend was wished into the cornfield.
I think they're going to have to do a lot more wishing. Levi is looking to sell a tell-all book, he announced yesterday.
Can you imagine when the right wing media will work to discredit this guy?
It will be over the top insane.
| AmazingRuss | 2009-07-04 07:38:26 PM |
Lionel Mandrake: Embezzlement, huh? You wouldn't think that a good Christian like Sarah would get caught up in stuff like that.
If you've done business with really religious people, you've learned that god says it's ok for them to rip off anybody not in their church.
Get your money up front.
If you've done business with really religious people, you've learned that god says it's ok for them to rip off anybody not in their church.
Get your money up front.
| evilotto | 2009-07-04 08:32:37 PM |
/late to the party.
| jules_siegel | 2009-07-04 09:17:30 PM |
SpookyBlues: Unless the field is made of ineligible whackos, she would not survive it.
Do they have anything else?
Do they have anything else?
| Somacandra
|
2009-07-04 10:10:32 PM |
Benevolent Misanthrope: I mean, seriously - how bad to you have to be to get totally PWN3D in an interview with Katie Farking Couric...She earned the reputation of being a blithering idiot by proving it repeatedly. She couldn't answer basic questions, and then during a debate acted indignant that she would be expected to answer questions.
Sums it up. The apotheosis of self-righteous, self-indulgent, self-obsessed mediocrity.
Sums it up. The apotheosis of self-righteous, self-indulgent, self-obsessed mediocrity.
| libbynomore2 | 2009-07-04 10:12:36 PM |
farkers with Palin derangement syndrome, like alcoholics, sucking out the last pitiful drops from their vodka bottle before they move on to the cough medicine and listerine....
so sad, so pitiful, so fark
so sad, so pitiful, so fark
| Majick Thise
|
2009-07-04 10:49:11 PM |
farbles: 2. Someone with clout told her to go away, now. Explains the sudden resignation and the taking it for the team metaphor but who could have that much clout?
Nobody left in the republican party has enough clout to get her to concede anything. So I'm thinking the Justice Department might be involved. I doubt President Obama would get involved directly..
Nobody left in the republican party has enough clout to get her to concede anything. So I'm thinking the Justice Department might be involved. I doubt President Obama would get involved directly..
| Maddogjew
|
2009-07-04 11:16:32 PM |
libbynomore2: farkers with Palin derangement syndrome, like alcoholics, sucking out the last pitiful drops from their vodka bottle before they move on to the cough medicine and listerine....
so sad, so pitiful, so fark
You know, no one makes you come here you little whiny biatch. No one is dissuaded by your arguments. No one listens to a single thing you have to say. You are not changing anything by posting here. Go back to Free republic and go suck Rush's dick. You are one single piece of flotsam here and nothing you say matters even a little bit. You are a minority party, singing a minority song. No one here wants to hear it, you are finished. Why do you bother? You have not swayed one single person to your point of view. You must only be here to troll and you do a piss poor job at that. You are a failure and so is your ideology. I pity you and all who are like you. It must be so lonely to be the only idiots who buy Rush's bullshiat. I'll piss on your troll grave freeper.
so sad, so pitiful, so fark
You know, no one makes you come here you little whiny biatch. No one is dissuaded by your arguments. No one listens to a single thing you have to say. You are not changing anything by posting here. Go back to Free republic and go suck Rush's dick. You are one single piece of flotsam here and nothing you say matters even a little bit. You are a minority party, singing a minority song. No one here wants to hear it, you are finished. Why do you bother? You have not swayed one single person to your point of view. You must only be here to troll and you do a piss poor job at that. You are a failure and so is your ideology. I pity you and all who are like you. It must be so lonely to be the only idiots who buy Rush's bullshiat. I'll piss on your troll grave freeper.
| vabeard | 2009-07-04 11:22:28 PM |
So this turned out to be a big non story.
Palin just announced she is on to bigger and better things for the country, or some horseshiat.
/on yahoo news at 23:21 Sat 4jul09
Palin just announced she is on to bigger and better things for the country, or some horseshiat.
/on yahoo news at 23:21 Sat 4jul09
| lstywnch | 2009-07-04 11:31:16 PM |
vabeard: So this turned out to be a big non story.
Palin just announced she is on to bigger and better things for the country, or some horseshiat.
FTFA "I am now looking ahead and how we can advance this country together with our values of less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint," she said.
Damn, did she get a position in Obama's cabinet?
Palin just announced she is on to bigger and better things for the country, or some horseshiat.
FTFA "I am now looking ahead and how we can advance this country together with our values of less government intervention, greater energy independence, stronger national security, and much-needed fiscal restraint," she said.
Damn, did she get a position in Obama's cabinet?
| inglixthemad
|
2009-07-04 11:33:24 PM |
SilentStrider: Klingon Penis: (Clearly, they'll take anyone.)
see North, Oliver
That's one the Marines in my family are disgusted by every time they see him. Farking idiot dishonored the uniform. They'd like nothing better than for him to be in Leavenworth.
see North, Oliver
That's one the Marines in my family are disgusted by every time they see him. Farking idiot dishonored the uniform. They'd like nothing better than for him to be in Leavenworth.
| libbynomore2 | 2009-07-04 11:44:13 PM |
Maddogjew: libbynomore2: farkers with Palin derangement syndrome, like alcoholics, sucking out the last pitiful drops from their vodka bottle before they move on to the cough medicine and listerine....
so sad, so pitiful, so fark
You know, no one makes you come here you little whiny biatch. No one is dissuaded by your arguments. No one listens to a single thing you have to say. You are not changing anything by posting here. Go back to Free republic and go suck Rush's dick. You are one single piece of flotsam here and nothing you say matters even a little bit. You are a minority party, singing a minority song. No one here wants to hear it, you are finished. Why do you bother? You have not swayed one single person to your point of view. You must only be here to troll and you do a piss poor job at that. You are a failure and so is your ideology. I pity you and all who are like you. It must be so lonely to be the only idiots who buy Rush's bullshiat. I'll piss on your troll grave freeper.
no one, no one, no one....
wow how sad you are that you desperately need to believe that " everyone " agrees with you......
so pitiful.....so pathetic.....
it is YOU!!!
so sad, so pitiful, so fark
You know, no one makes you come here you little whiny biatch. No one is dissuaded by your arguments. No one listens to a single thing you have to say. You are not changing anything by posting here. Go back to Free republic and go suck Rush's dick. You are one single piece of flotsam here and nothing you say matters even a little bit. You are a minority party, singing a minority song. No one here wants to hear it, you are finished. Why do you bother? You have not swayed one single person to your point of view. You must only be here to troll and you do a piss poor job at that. You are a failure and so is your ideology. I pity you and all who are like you. It must be so lonely to be the only idiots who buy Rush's bullshiat. I'll piss on your troll grave freeper.
no one, no one, no one....
wow how sad you are that you desperately need to believe that " everyone " agrees with you......
so pitiful.....so pathetic.....
it is YOU!!!
| Lenny_da_Hog | 2009-07-05 01:18:03 AM |
(libby always goes back to dead threads to make sure he has the last post)
| Ed Finnerty | 2009-07-05 01:29:26 AM |
| OgreMagi | 2009-07-05 02:38:19 AM |
libbynomore2: farkers with Palin derangement syndrome, like alcoholics, sucking out the last pitiful drops from their vodka bottle before they move on to the cough medicine and listerine....
so sad, so pitiful, so fark
I agree. They just can't seem to let go.
I never much cared for Palin. When McCain chose her as her running mate, he lost almost the entire moderate base which is far more important than the religious right that he cemented with her. It was a stupid move. But that's in the past. The election is over and Palin should have disappeared into obscurity where she belongs, except the lefty moonbats need her to prove some point that isn't clear and probably isn't all that important.
so sad, so pitiful, so fark
I agree. They just can't seem to let go.
I never much cared for Palin. When McCain chose her as her running mate, he lost almost the entire moderate base which is far more important than the religious right that he cemented with her. It was a stupid move. But that's in the past. The election is over and Palin should have disappeared into obscurity where she belongs, except the lefty moonbats need her to prove some point that isn't clear and probably isn't all that important.
| PartTimeBuddha | 2009-07-05 07:16:05 AM |
OgreMagi: The election is over and Palin should have disappeared into obscurity where she belongs, except the lefty moonbats need her to prove some point that isn't clear and probably isn't all that important.
She gets coverage and likes it. No one forced her to call a press conference and resign in such a bizarre manner. (Unless she was forced by forcing forces, unknown.)
Because she's so unclear, much of the discussion is centred around 'what is she thinking?' and goes like this:
(i) Lefty: She's not thinking anything! She stupid, corrupt and gonna swing so high, massa!
(ii) Righty: She's GENIUS! Three whole years to arrange toy soldiers and turn the country into what we want it to be!
But it's her own actions -- the faux outrages and odd behaviour -- that provoke this. If she did sit down and shut up and get on with her job then I think much of this would die down. None of it comes from a vaccum.
She gets coverage and likes it. No one forced her to call a press conference and resign in such a bizarre manner. (Unless she was forced by forcing forces, unknown.)
Because she's so unclear, much of the discussion is centred around 'what is she thinking?' and goes like this:
(i) Lefty: She's not thinking anything! She stupid, corrupt and gonna swing so high, massa!
(ii) Righty: She's GENIUS! Three whole years to arrange toy soldiers and turn the country into what we want it to be!
But it's her own actions -- the faux outrages and odd behaviour -- that provoke this. If she did sit down and shut up and get on with her job then I think much of this would die down. None of it comes from a vaccum.
| FARK_JOSH | 2009-07-06 09:58:12 AM |
You are sooo sued!
/hawt like Palin.
/hawt like Palin.
| poot_rootbeer | 2009-07-06 01:54:45 PM |
Uns-buzzle? What means that?
| basemetal
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2009-07-06 02:42:36 PM |
So is Brad going to have to put his money where his mouth is?
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