Q.: Why does this serial killer exist?

I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some, people out there in our nation don't have maps and, uh, I believe that our, uh, education like such as, uh, South Africa and, uh, the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and, I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, or, uh, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future, for our children.

/Scary story though

Keep it up and you'll tie the swine flu.

Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

Yes.

Residents have "their guard up and their gun handy,"

waiting for all the followup stories

"3rd mailman shot dead, trying to do his jorb"
"he was coming right for me"

wait, spree and serial?
where is the overlap??

A spree killer, also known as a rampage killer, is someone who embarks on a murderous assault on his or her victims (2 or more) in a short time in multiple locations.

A serial killer is a person who murders usually three or more people[1][2] over a period of more than 30 days with a "cooling off" period between each murder,

mkay, so serial killer take there time, spree killers are just shooting their load as quickly as they can

It's Sanford. And he won't stop... he's got a genuine taste for it now.

Why is it that serial killers always get the blame when people get killed?

"There is no greater fear than the fear of the unknown and nobody knows. You can cut the tension with a knife," Peeler said. "People are locking their doors, even in broad daylight."

Locking their doors in the daylight? That is madness.

/former NYer.

Other than that Gaffney is quite lovely this time of year.

Why not make it #5?

Joelogon: It's Sanford. And he won't stop... he's got a genuine taste for it now.

This is what happens when you take away a man's Argentinian Lover. People die.

Well, hopefully the 15 year old victim who survived being shot recovers, and she can give the investigation some more information.

deadapostle: Locking their doors in the daylight? That is madness.

/former NYer.

SRSLY.

Not anything remotely as serious as TFA but in my neighborhood lately there's been some person (people?) opening cars and night and going through the glove boxes, stealing petty shiat. The response on the neighborhood mailing list? "Oh my, we always leave our car unlocked, you mean we should lock it now?" "yeah my car was hit too, of course we always leave it unlocked" etc etc. WTF?

I don't live in crime central or anything (though clearly there's some, as evidenced by this) but it's always just been pure REFLEX for me to lock my stuff and my house when I walk away from it. Lock my bike up too.

I stopped in Gaffney (my old hometown) to see the family yesterday on the way back from a business trip. The shooting last night was about a 5 minute drive from Mom's, and about a 5 minute walk from the sheriff's office, right next door to an auto shop that was still open.

This guy has some balls. The shooting of the two women happened during visitation for Mr. Cash. According to "he-said-she-said", from the scanner listeners, the TV/furniture shop from last night's shooting was closing but they got a call from someone asking them to stay open for a few more minutes. Then, last night, the police chased a suspect vehicle which ended with the driver letting out two teenagers and then shooting herself--paroled meth dealer with stuff in the car.

Leaving Mom's this morning at 5:30, I passed 20 sheriff's cars from 3 different counties. So, if you're driving through or near Gaffney this weekend, be sure to obey the speed limits.

smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

Exactly. Serial killers generally have some kind of sexual motivations regarding their killings, whereas spree killers generally do not. This killer is more akin to Andrew Cunanan.

BigBaum: Joelogon: It's Sanford. And he won't stop... he's got a genuine taste for it now.

This is what happens when you take away a man's Argentinian Lover. People die.

Is it still safe to hike the Appalachian Trail?

Bathia_Mapes: smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

Exactly. Serial killers generally have some kind of sexual motivations regarding their killings, whereas spree killers generally do not. This killer is more akin to Andrew Cunanan.

The sheriff is calling him a serial killer because the FBI told him it's a serial killer. He said that during one of the news conferences yesterday. One of the "he-said-she-saids" in Gaffney yesterday said that some of the evidence they're not discussing was part of the reason.

WSPA Spartanburg

But wait - is SweetKaroline safe!!???

Nothing could be finer than to die in Carolina...


/former upstate resident

Bathia_Mapes: smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

Exactly. Serial killers generally have some kind of sexual motivations regarding their killings, whereas spree killers generally do not. This killer is more akin to Andrew Cunanan.

I came here to say something like that -- I thought a specific serial killer's victims were similar in age, physical type, etc and killed in a similar way to each other. Then I was worried that I've just read way too much crime fiction, which isn't exactly the same as having knowledge.

Glad to have my instincts confirmed.

I heard they had a TWO THOUSAND dollar reward out...

...dang, South Carolina was gonna use that money to put new tires on the State Capitol...

Its because of how liberals are being PC that white conservative men feel they have no other outlet except to become serial killers.

dahmers love zombie: smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

Yes.

No. You need 5 kills to be on a killing spree.

/noobs

just in case... i am not paul avery...

jghanc:
Leaving Mom's this morning at 5:30, I passed 20 sheriff's cars from 3 different counties. So, if you're driving through or near Gaffney this weekend, be sure to obey the speed limits.


Dude, stop giving the killer hints. Geez.

Another reason why it is a good idea to own a gun.

you are a puppet: Its because of how liberals are being PC that white conservative men feel they have no other outlet except to become serial killers.

I don't know what's scarier, the fact that I could see that coming out of that cracker's mouth or the fact that it's broadcast on a station masquerading as a news network.

/Why do psychos snap and kill people like Lennon and MLK and not pricks like Glenn Beck?

just came to say that Donald "Pee Wee" Gaskins was one sick motherfarker.

FarkingMonday: dahmers love zombie: smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

Yes.

No. You need 5 kills to be on a killing spree.

/noobs

I think it is a mass murderer. If he is planning them out, it may be considered a serial killer.

fusillade762: jghanc:
Leaving Mom's this morning at 5:30, I passed 20 sheriff's cars from 3 different counties. So, if you're driving through or near Gaffney this weekend, be sure to obey the speed limits.


Dude, stop giving the killer hints. Geez.

I do like the idea that the killer posts on Fark. Overheard as the killer left the scene "You'll get over it"

Excen: you are a puppet: Its because of how liberals are being PC that white conservative men feel they have no other outlet except to become serial killers.

I don't know what's scarier, the fact that I could see that coming out of that cracker's mouth or the fact that it's broadcast on a station masquerading as a news network.

/Why do psychos snap and kill people like Lennon and MLK and not pricks like Glenn Beck?

I basically just reworded something he said when all the spree shootings happened at once a few months back.

BECK: But as I'm listening to him. I'm thinking about the American people that feel disenfranchised right now. That feel like nobody's hearing their voice. The government isn't hearing their voice. Even if you call, they don't listen to you on both sides. If you're a conservative, you're called a racist. You want to starve children.

O'REILLY: Sure.

BECK: Yada yada yada. And every time they do speak out, they're shut down by political correctness. How do you not have those people turn into that guy?

Link (new window)

FTA: "There is no greater fear than the fear of the unknown and nobody knows. You can cut the tension with a knife," Peeler said.

With a knife... not a bad idea!

I live outside the city limits of Gaffney, so I'm currently loading my shotgun getting a kick...

Seriously, this guy has some balls. The police and SLED are doing their hardest to weed out this guy before the crazed locals do.

itazurakko:
I don't live in crime central or anything (though clearly there's some, as evidenced by this) but it's always just been pure REFLEX for me to lock my stuff and my house when I walk away from it. Lock my bike up too.

I grew up in a neighborhood where almost everyone keeps the key in the ignition and the house unlocked with a key under the mat when you do lock it. Moved to the city (Bos) for years and never locked the apt door. (Bike got stolen 4 times, though, even with the Kryptonite.) Moved to Europe and luckily I'm in a small town again where every most everyone keeps things unlocked. It's a good feeling. I dunno... I think there's something psychologically-damning about always feeling the obligation to lock everything up. Personally, as a kid, when people locked stuff up or hid stuff from me, it made me want to break in/take stuff. When people seemed/acted trusting, I didn't want to violate that trust. Trust/distrust is contagious in smaller towns, I think.

yes, I realize there are junkies everywhere who will steal, regardless

The difficult thing about being a mass murderer isn't the "murdering" part, it's the "mass" part. It's the pace you've got to keep up -- the sheer volume of murdering.

The truly sad part is that I'm willing to bet more people will be killed by citizens thinking they're being attacked than by the Serial / Spree / Mentos killer.

/SC is like NC's club foot.
//has family down there. does the killer take requests?

you are a puppet: fusillade762: jghanc:
Leaving Mom's this morning at 5:30, I passed 20 sheriff's cars from 3 different counties. So, if you're driving through or near Gaffney this weekend, be sure to obey the speed limits.


Dude, stop giving the killer hints. Geez.

I do like the idea that the killer posts on Fark. Overheard as the killer left the scene "You'll get over it"

I definitely won't mention the name of the person of interest they were looking for last night. It'd sound like I made it up.

Trick E. Dick: The truly sad part is that I'm willing to bet more people will be killed by citizens thinking they're being attacked than by the Serial / Spree / Mentos killer.

/SC is like NC's club foot.
//has family down there. does the killer take requests?

How much do you want to bet? You realize at least 5 people will have to die for you to win the bet.

Has anyone checked to see if the victims were all murders? It isn't THAT far from Florida.

vertiaset: Innocent people being killed and we Farkers are arguing over Venn diagrams.

Welcome to Fark, princess.

skinink: I had no idea that French serial killers liked the South.

nice!

Great movie - just watched it again about 2 months ago - its held up pretty well considering all that was ripped off from it in other films.

FarkingMonday: No. You need 5 kills to be on a killing spree.

U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics defines a spree killing as "killings at two or more locations with almost no time break between murders." According to the FBI the general definition of spree murder is two or more murders committed by an offender or offenders, without a cooling-off period; the lack of a cooling-off period marking the difference between a spree murder and a serial murder.

The term "mass murder" refers to the killing of four or more people during a particular event. Examples would include killing several people in the course of a robbery, or setting a crowded nightclub on fire where four or more deaths occur.

Tell me when he gets to NORTH Carolina, cuz that's where me mummy lives.


/a gun for every nutcase
//somewhere, Charlton Heston is smiling

Bathia_Mapes: FarkingMonday: No. You need 5 kills to be on a killing spree.

U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics defines a spree killing as "killings at two or more locations with almost no time break between murders." According to the FBI the general definition of spree murder is two or more murders committed by an offender or offenders, without a cooling-off period; the lack of a cooling-off period marking the difference between a spree murder and a serial murder.

The term "mass murder" refers to the killing of four or more people during a particular event. Examples would include killing several people in the course of a robbery, or setting a crowded nightclub on fire where four or more deaths occur.

Who else has never played Unreal Tournament?

scott88008: How much do you want to bet? You realize at least 5 people will have to die for you to win the bet.

You've never visited SC have you? Myrtle Beach doesn't count.

Excen:
I don't know what's scarier, the fact that I could see that coming out of that cracker's mouth or the fact that it's broadcast on a station masquerading as a news network.

/Why do psychos snap and kill people like Lennon and MLK and not pricks like Glenn Beck?

You sound black.

smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

I came here to say that. I agree with you. Subby and AP are morons and serially stupid.

the brother of the argentine mistress is angered for the honor of his sister. his cereal is cheerios.

...Residents have "their guard up and their gun handy," said state Sen. Harvey Peeler, R-Gaffney

...He also advised salesmen and others to avoid knocking on strangers' doors with so many on heightened alert. "People are going to start shooting at shadows," Blanton said.

Gotta love the South. What's the over/under on a church/school/flea market/picnic shooting before this is done?

smooshie 2009-07-03 04:55:14 PM
Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?a spree killer???

you mean...



The Skittle killer was unavailable for comment...

budsterr: smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

I came here to say that. I agree with you. Subby and AP are morons and serially stupid.

Serial: At least three kills with a cooling-off period between each.
Spree: At least three kills with little cooling-off period between them. Kills will be geographically apart from each other (not part of the same house/business/school/whatever).
Mass: At least three kills in one discrete event.

/not my definitions, the FBI's

Gotta love the South. What's the over/under on a church/school/flea market/picnic shooting before this is done?

It's the heat/humidity. Also, it's Gaffney. A suburb of Spartanburg. Which is to say, a suburb of Shiatville.

Except the FBI is the ones who have actually labeled him a serial killer because of unreleased evidence.

Also no one one gives a flying fark about this kind of pedantic bullshiat except you and your other autistic friends.

Nothing crazier than a crazy white dude.

/has a pinkish hue; entitled.

one* not ones* or I suppose you could change the is* to are* if you follow certain European styles.

itazurakko: Well, hopefully the 15 year old victim who survived being shot recovers, and she can give the investigation some more information.

deadapostle: Locking their doors in the daylight? That is madness.

/former NYer.

SRSLY.

Not anything remotely as serious as TFA but in my neighborhood lately there's been some person (people?) opening cars and night and going through the glove boxes, stealing petty shiat. The response on the neighborhood mailing list? "Oh my, we always leave our car unlocked, you mean we should lock it now?" "yeah my car was hit too, of course we always leave it unlocked" etc etc. WTF?

I don't live in crime central or anything (though clearly there's some, as evidenced by this) but it's always just been pure REFLEX for me to lock my stuff and my house when I walk away from it. Lock my bike up too.

smear some aconite on your glove box.....

I blame Bush.

So, what we've got here is a typical problem of identifying sufficient and necessary conditions for inclusion in a class.

Bathia_Mapes: FarkingMonday: No. You need 5 kills to be on a killing spree.

U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics defines a spree killing as "killings at two or more locations with almost no time break between murders." According to the FBI the general definition of spree murder is two or more murders committed by an offender or offenders, without a cooling-off period; the lack of a cooling-off period marking the difference between a spree murder and a serial murder.

The term "mass murder" refers to the killing of four or more people during a particular event. Examples would include killing several people in the course of a robbery, or setting a crowded nightclub on fire where four or more deaths occur.

Robert1966: But wait - is SweetKaroline safe!!???

Pray for her and for Omarion!

dahmers love zombie: smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

Damn you....beat me too it. Farkers are just too quick for me!

FarkingMonday: dahmers love zombie: smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

Yes.

No. You need 5 kills to be on a killing spree.

/noobs

Poor guy, I guess if he could count higher he would go farther in life.
How many kills to unlock the achievement?

Serial: At least three kills with a cooling-off period between each.
Spree: At least three kills with little cooling-off period between them. Kills will be geographically apart from each other (not part of the same house/business/school/whatever).
Mass: At least three kills in one discrete event.
fark mass serial spree: three or murders based on internet spelling errors with spectators posting sexually charged midget fetish pictures
/not my definitions, the FBI'sDrew's

brand0n027: Stephen Tyler, 45, was killed, and his 15-year-old daughter was shot and seriously injured.


Steven Tyler is 45? What, is he not counting nights?

TheShavingofOccam123: Nothing crazier than a crazy white dude.

/has a pinkish hue; entitled.


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Regarding "spree" versus "serial", all of you CSI-watching Wikipediaphile pedants are missing some salient points.

1. The Gaffney sheriff said "serial" because that's what the FBI reps who are working with him said.

2. The first two attacks weren't really "geographically apart from each other", if you live in Gaffney or nearby. Mr. Cash and Mrs. Linder are both in the same rural/farm area, and the Tyler store is almost within spitting distance of the sheriff's office. See previous post.

3. It's very easy to imagine some connection between the killer and the victims. I'm 43, and was born in Gaffney and lived there until I moved away for college. Hazel Linder was a geography teacher at my junior high way back when; I knew Kline Cash and his family and their business just like every other person in the Gaffney area did; and, as for the attack last night, it's hard to believe (if it's the same killer) it wasn't done just to taunt the sheriff's office--the sheriff and Tyler's store are basically along the same road within about a 2 minute drive (and probably a 5 minute walk). I haven't lived there in 26 years, and that's still pretty evident.

4. How does the nomenclature matter? Both Mr. Kline and Mrs. Linder had signs advertising hay for sale. Mr. Tyler owned a rent-to-own furniture/appliance store. So maybe he's a destitute livestock owner with rented furniture who was foreclosed--does it matter if he's on a spree or acting serially? He's still at large, and given the small size of the community, he's still a threat to just about anyone who lives there.

Finally, yes, I do have receipts showing I wasn't in Gaffney when Mr. Cash and the Linders were killed, so don't even ask.

badhatharry: Another reason why it is a good idea to own a gun.

Generally by the time a serial killer or spree killer makes himself known, you're too dead to pull out your weapon of choice.

That's why they're so effective. If you knew them in advance, they wouldn't make the second kill that allows them to become serial or spree killers.

However, MASS murderers CAN be stopped in mid-attack by other armed civilians; this may be what you're thinking of.

BTW:
Serial killer: 3 or more killings over a period of more than 30 days, with a "cooling off" period between killings. Usually a ritualistic or sexual component to the killings.

Spree killer: 2 or more killings at 2 or more locations, with no "cooling off" period between the killings except for transit time.

Mass killer: Multiple killings at a single location, often with great violence.

(FBI/DoJ definitions)

So a killer who has a series of killing sprees would be called a spreerial killer.

That's like, what, 8 teeth killed?

Poopspasm: That's like, what, 8 teeth killed?

I think that's like 2.8 in Canadian

What if this would have happened while Governor Sanford was out of country?

As long as the guy is working in SC, I have a few requests...EIP..

/KIDDING!!!!!
//REALLY!!!!
///mostly

jghanc: Regarding "spree" versus "serial", all of you CSI-watching Wikipediaphile pedants are missing some salient points.



Finally, yes, I do have receipts showing I wasn't in Gaffney when Mr. Cash and the Linders were killed, so don't even ask.

Only people with pre-established alibis have something to hide. Please don't plan on leaving town, and could you spit in this cup?

Gyrfalcon: badhatharry: Another reason why it is a good idea to own a gun.

Generally by the time a serial killer or spree killer makes himself known, you're too dead to pull out your weapon of choice.

That's why they're so effective. If you knew them in advance, they wouldn't make the second kill that allows them to become serial or spree killers.

I was mostly referring to the current situation. Anyone living within a couple of miles from the area has gun or is wishing they had a gun. The one's wishing they had a gun probably went to visit a friend or relative that has a gun.

kxs401: I came here to say something like that -- I thought a specific serial killer's victims were similar in age, physical type, etc and killed in a similar way to each other. Then I was worried that I've just read way too much crime fiction, which isn't exactly the same as having knowledge.

Glad to have my instincts confirmed.

In a bout of insomnia, I saw a special about serial killers. There isn't necessarily a pattern of the victims, but of the pathology of the killer.

Somehow their minds are cross-wired and the murders give them a huge sexual release. Many feel guilty and don't want to kill, but it's the only way they feel that release. A sick sort of masturbation.

This is the kind of situation you have to nip in the bud. NIP IT in-THE-BUD!

This conversation reminded me of this, for some reason:

DAISY: I smell a disaster
MASON: Nah, five deaths is not a disaster
GEORGE: How many deaths is a disaster?
MASON: More than five. Five's bullshiat
GEORGE: How many?
MASON: 16-20 disaster, 21 and up catastrophe, 8-15 is a calamity
RUBE: 7 and under?
MASON: That's a crying shame

badhatharry: Gyrfalcon: badhatharry: Another reason why it is a good idea to own a gun.

Generally by the time a serial killer or spree killer makes himself known, you're too dead to pull out your weapon of choice.

That's why they're so effective. If you knew them in advance, they wouldn't make the second kill that allows them to become serial or spree killers.

I was mostly referring to the current situation. Anyone living within a couple of miles from the area has gun or is wishing they had a gun. The one's wishing they had a gun probably went to visit a friend or relative that has a gun.

An interesting fact about Charles Whitman, the Texas Tower sniper, was that when he went on his spree in 1963, most Texans carried their own firearms totally legally. When everyone realized where the shots were coming from, civilians started shooting back before the cops got there. This forced Whitman, an expert marksman and Army sniper, to keep his head down, and limited his shots; most of his kills were made in the first few minute of his rampage.

Not that I'd ever support the idea that everyone ought to have guns "just in case" something like this happens, because it doesn't happen very often; however...

Gyrfalcon: badhatharry: Gyrfalcon: badhatharry: Another reason why it is a good idea to own a gun.

Generally by the time a serial killer or spree killer makes himself known, you're too dead to pull out your weapon of choice.

That's why they're so effective. If you knew them in advance, they wouldn't make the second kill that allows them to become serial or spree killers.

I was mostly referring to the current situation. Anyone living within a couple of miles from the area has gun or is wishing they had a gun. The one's wishing they had a gun probably went to visit a friend or relative that has a gun.

An interesting fact about Charles Whitman, the Texas Tower sniper, was that when he went on his spree in 1963, most Texans carried their own firearms totally legally. When everyone realized where the shots were coming from, civilians started shooting back before the cops got there. This forced Whitman, an expert marksman and Army sniper, to keep his head down, and limited his shots; most of his kills were made in the first few minute of his rampage.

Not that I'd ever support the idea that everyone ought to have guns "just in case" something like this happens, because it doesn't happen very often; however...

I don't know if it a good idea to have everyone carrying them around. To me, a gun is like a fire extinguisher. They good tool to have in case of an emergency, but I am not going to carry it around with me.

namatad: "3rd mailman shot dead, trying to do his jorb"
"he was coming right for me"



" or maybe he was just waving hi!"

Did someone mention Gaffney?


/hot as Gaffney in July

Gyrfalcon: jghanc:
Finally, yes, I do have receipts showing I wasn't in Gaffney when Mr. Cash and the Linders were killed, so don't even ask.

Only people with pre-established alibis have something to hide. Please don't plan on leaving town, and could you spit in this cup?

I already left town, and I'm shorter and thinner than the suspect. I drive a Beetle covered in Grateful Dead stickers. I have a beard that's almost at my sternum, almost 75% gray (the beard, not the sternum), which is pretty hard to miss.

Hell, even if I did it during some weird mental fugue, either the police sketch artist or I should already be in jail.

Poopspasm: That's like, what, 8 teeth killed?

Looks like Gena had at least that many based on the picture in the link below, but her mother may very well have had dentures, on account of being so old. Do they count?

Gaffney Ledger

Sketch just released

Local update :
Update July 3, 2009 6pm

Serial Killer's Identity Sketch Released: Authorities need your help!

Now with a total of five shot leaving four deceased and one teenager in serious condition, authorities are sure they are looking for a serial killer. Cherokee County Sheriff Bill Blanton said evidence connects all five shootings, and investigators believe one man is responsible.

Blanton said the killer is described as having salt and pepper hair, about 6 feet 2 inches tall, driving a silver 1991-1994 Ford Explorer. He said a blue van previously thought to be of interest has been eliminated as a suspect vehicle.



He asked that anyone with information call Cherokee County CrimeStoppers at 864-489-2746 or Spartanburg County CrimeStoppers at 58-CRIME.

Is this him?

deadapostle: Why is it that serial killers always get the blame when people get killed?

"There is no greater fear than the fear of the unknown and nobody knows. You can cut the tension with a knife," Peeler said. "People are locking their doors, even in broad daylight."

Locking their doors in the daylight? That is madness.

/former NYer.

I'm Canadian, and I always lock my door. It's just common sense.

McKeesport Beer Baron: Sketch just released

looks like Ricardo Montalban in a dollar store hat.

smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

My doctor says I'm not allowed to go on sprees.

He's already killed almost EVERYONE!

McKeesport Beer Baron: Local update :
Update July 3, 2009 6pm
Serial Killer's Identity Sketch Released: Authorities need your help!


WSPA is showing a revised sketch:
WSPA Latest Update

The sheriff reminded people they have a right to protect themselves and asked them to call 911 to report anything suspicious. He also advised salesmen and others to avoid knocking on strangers' doors with so many on heightened alert."People are going to start shooting at shadows," Blanton said.

Well, that should keep the LDSs and Jehovs away for a while.

Does anybody know where the governor was? He'd better have an alibi.

The locations of the last 3 killings are like the elaborations of a bad liar.

This man, he covets.

jghanc: Gyrfalcon: jghanc:
Finally, yes, I do have receipts showing I wasn't in Gaffney when Mr. Cash and the Linders were killed, so don't even ask.

Only people with pre-established alibis have something to hide. Please don't plan on leaving town, and could you spit in this cup?

I already left town, and I'm shorter and thinner than the suspect. I drive a Beetle...

You know who else drove a Beetle, don't you?

Dammit people, now I want some Sprees.

/Mentos will have to do

/yes, I know. It's a stretch.
//let's see you do better.

fusillade762:

You know who else drove a Beetle, don't you?

Yoko Ono?

/Yeah, you got in a good one.

McKeesport Beer Baron: Sketch just released



O RLY?

Shooting deaths? Lazy farker.

FarkingMonday: dahmers love zombie: smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

Yes.

No. You need 5 kills to be on a killing spree.

/noobs

McKeesport Beer Baron: Sketch just released

Also: Answers to "Bubba".

Really, 4 in a week makes a spree?

Way to lower the bar there, Lou.

jghanc: fusillade762:

You know who else drove a Beetle, don't you?

Yoko Ono?

/Yeah, you got in a good one.

And here I was thinking the correct answer was Ted Bundy...

so much for the eight thirty rez at dorsia

I8B4U: namatad: "3rd mailman shot dead, trying to do his jorb"
"he was coming right for me"



" or maybe he was just waving hi!"

Peanut butter and Gumbo! My favorite!

katerbug72: I8B4U: namatad: "3rd mailman shot dead, trying to do his jorb"
"he was coming right for me"



" or maybe he was just waving hi!"

Peanut butter and Gumbo! My favorite!

That's "gumballs" there sparky.

This wasn't Freckles' entry into the talent part of the competition, was it? I think she should have stuck with the fiddle.

Seacop: katerbug72: I8B4U: namatad: "3rd mailman shot dead, trying to do his jorb"
"he was coming right for me"



" or maybe he was just waving hi!"

Peanut butter and Gumbo! My favorite!

That's "gumballs" there sparky.

That's what I get for trusting IMDB. If I had trusted my memory I probably would have typed rumballs or something.
Can you call a girl sparky?

katerbug72:
Can you call a girl sparky?

Yep, just did.

IXI Jim IXI: This wasn't Freckles' entry into the talent part of the competition, was it? I think she should have stuck with the fiddle.

Paid assassin is a more lucrative skill. Plus, you get to travel.

Seacop: katerbug72:
Can you call a girl sparky?

Yep, just did.

Righty-o then.
/I deserved it

Spree Killer, Serial Killer, Mass Murderer...

Does it worry anyone else that we have enough large-scale violent crime that we need this many (and more) terms for it?

katerbug72: Seacop: katerbug72:
Can you call a girl sparky?

Yep, just did.

Righty-o then.
/I deserved it

it's not a bad thing.

My brother lives in that town and he's freaking out because this madman is running around. I'm not familiar with this area but isn't it small town America pretty much?

Lafiel: jghanc: fusillade762

And here I was thinking the correct answer was Ted Bundy...

The start of Ted Bundy's murders and John Lennon's "Lost Weekend" are pretty contemporaneous. Did you ever see a picture of Ted Bundy and May Pang together? No!

eraser8: Paid assassin is a more lucrative skill. Plus, you get to travel.

Well yeah, but the judges usually rate it harshly

Seacop: katerbug72: Seacop: katerbug72:
Can you call a girl sparky?

Yep, just did.

Righty-o then.
/I deserved it

it's not a bad thing.

At least you didn't call me Corky.

Wait, you mean there's a South Carolina now?

jghanc: Lafiel: jghanc: fusillade762

And here I was thinking the correct answer was Ted Bundy...

The start of Ted Bundy's murders and John Lennon's "Lost Weekend" are pretty contemporaneous. Did you ever see a picture of Ted Bundy and May Pang together? No!

I once saw Gacy kissing Santa Claus. Does that count for something?


/I'm really stupid tonight

smooshie: Isn't that a spree killer, not a serial killer?

That was the first thing I thought when I saw the headline.

/stickler for the proper use of our language.

TheGhostofFarkPast: My brother lives in that town and he's freaking out because this madman is running around. I'm not familiar with this area but isn't it small town America pretty much?

i take it you don't talk much with your brother.

I didn't think serial killers liked using guns. Too easy to trace, and your victim tends to die too quickly.

Bartleby the Scrivener: TheGhostofFarkPast: My brother lives in that town and he's freaking out because this madman is running around. I'm not familiar with this area but isn't it small town America pretty much?

i take it you don't talk much with your brother.

Nope not really, he just moved there for a new job and works a ton of hours so I don't get a chance to catch up. Plus he's an ultra conservative christian and talking to him to long hurts my brain because he sounds just like Fox news so I want to stab myself in the ear.

Wow. First Obama offs all those celebrities, now spreerial killers are mass rampaging through all 3 Carolinas on the day that Palin aborts her retarded day job. This year is not going to end well.

TheGhostofFarkPast: My brother lives in that town and he's freaking out because this madman is running around. I'm not familiar with this area but isn't it small town America pretty much?

Pretty much, yes.

Example: I try to get back there 2 or 3 times a year to visit family, after leaving 20+ years ago. About 6 years ago, a small Chinese takeout opened within 5 minutes drive of my Mom's house. I've been in there maybe 5 times over those years during my visits to Mom's since they opened. 6 months ago, when I stopped in to get takeout for lunch, the owner yelled as I came in the door "Back for more spicy vegetarian?" I'm pretty confident if I walked in today they'd start my order.

When I'm in Gaffney, in some store or whatnot, I often strike up a conversation with some older person who can tell me my family tree and lineage, and my history, that I've forgotten or maybe never known.

Live in Gaffney and its environs for about 1 year, and you'll realize that "Andy Griffith" and "Mayberry RFD" weren't imaginary. People there REALLY DO leave their doors unlocked (or used to). So far, there have been 5 deaths (and 6 attacked) last week--I think this is 2x the average yearly homicide rate for the area.

Hell, every time I go back, I wonder why I hated it so much.

They caught him.

A killer in South Carolina??!!!???

The question Farkers want to know is...

Is Freckles ok?

Honestly, living in podunk SC will make anyone go on a spree. Pee Wee Gaskins anyone? Yeah, that was my home town. He was right - lots of places to hide a body and no one will ever know how many you did. Makes sense.

Fano: McKeesport Beer Baron: Sketch just released



O RLY?

COULD BE A CRACK HEAD!

Bagelox-99: I didn't think serial killers liked using guns. Too easy to trace, and your victim tends to die too quickly.

Are you joking?

The perfect serial killer would use a gun. The Beltway Sniper could have gone on forever if he had kept moving.

Had this discussion back in the day with a friend taking a criminology course about serial killers. How long could a killer go on if he went several towns over and sniped a person every few weeks/months?

C18H27NO3: They caught him.

Huh?

Dang, replace caught with sought in my previous post. Apparently reading comprehension isn't my top attribute this fine evening and I haven't even been drinking.
/boggle.

BigBaum: Joelogon: It's Sanford. And he won't stop... he's got a genuine taste for it now.

This is what happens when you take away a man's Argentinian Lover. People die.

I thought that was when Mr.Bigglesworth gets angry?

sumbiatch looks just like Ed Gein.



see what i mean? Ed Gein.

no wait.

sumbiatch looks just like Ernest T. Bass.



It's me. It's me. It's Ernest T.

eraser8: /yes, I know. It's a stretch.
//let's see you do better.

Would you ask Tom Petty to do better?

jghanc:

Hell, every time I go back, I wonder why I hated it so much.

Cuz when's the last time the Dead played Gafney?

Since so many of you are speaking of Mayberry RFD and Andy Griffith, I just want to say I'm currently in the real Mayberry (Mt. Airy) visiting my girlfriend, and on Sunday will be going back to Charlotte.

I assume this killer guy will stay in Gaffney, because I think he would get lost on the streets in Charlotte and killed in the ghetto, but I may be wrong. Hope he gets caught soon, don't like someone like that roaming around so close to me and my family. He's not far from Charlotte or Anderson, SC where my family is.

The difficult thing about being a mass murderer isn't the "murdering" part, it's the "mass" part. It's the pace you've got to keep up -- the sheer volume of murdering.

So what if they killed people who were really fat (high mass individuals)? Do they have to kill fewer to still rate as a mass murderer? They get a large volume per murder.

Well, as a person that has studied serial killers for over half his life, I'd be more than happy to help out. I doubt that anything that I know would be anything of any importance, especially if they already have Federal agents on the case but... Fark it, let me give a mild profile just from reading this article and one other.

Your suspect is a white male, somewhere in the usual space between 20 and 50, but what will set him apart is he was recently released from a job or something he held close to him, possibly a relationship. Something made him break. He has lost his faith in humanity, because he's not only robbing, but killing too... Yet he left the young girl alive. There is something there. Even if she was wounded, a true killer will finish the job if he has that hate in him, we've seen it before. He has bound his victims but if judging by this last case, didn't finish what he intended (or atleast didn't kill her when he meant to) which is actually not good. His brazen attitude is a cry to get caught, bound or not, he has left a victim alive. He will continue killing people until he is caught, which will hopefully be soon. He cares about money, but not human life... But I think he is aware. He'll be reading the papers, possibly online, he'll know that everyone is looking for him. I'd be on my guard if I was on the outskirts of town, farms etc. because he's going to still have his hunger for control, money, and what he thinks of as "power", but everyone in the city will be on their guard. He will not stop until he is stopped. He has a taste for this, probably thinks of himself as a peoples hero, with time he will brag. Hopefully he doesn't get that time.

/Just my $.02
//Good luck guys.

jghanc: McKeesport Beer Baron: Local update :
Update July 3, 2009 6pm
Serial Killer's Identity Sketch Released: Authorities need your help!


WSPA is showing a revised sketch:
WSPA Latest Update

From the articles comments section:
"can someone please answer this for me? Im 17 years old and was wonderin if i seen this man and shot him if i would go to jail"

So, either one of you just came up with a truly inspired troll, or I'm seriously frightened.

Also, according to other comments from people with scanners the Police may be pursuing the guy right now.

Also, from experience, don't get caught up on that "over 40" part of the story. Even with the sketch. He looks it to me too, but it can be wrong.

When they finally got Bundy, Ramirez, Dahmer, Gacy, name your serial killer... Look how unlike the sketch they were.

Oh, sure. Blame the serial killer...

Obligatory

PfizerX: Well, as a person that has studied serial killers for over half his life, I'd be more than happy to help out. I doubt that anything that I know would be anything of any importance, especially if they already have Federal agents on the case but... Fark it, let me give a mild profile just from reading this article and one other.

Your suspect is a white male, somewhere in the usual space between 20 and 50, but what will set him apart is he was recently released from a job or something he held close to him, possibly a relationship. Something made him break. He has lost his faith in humanity, because he's not only robbing, but killing too... Yet he left the young girl alive. There is something there. Even if she was wounded, a true killer will finish the job if he has that hate in him, we've seen it before. He has bound his victims but if judging by this last case, didn't finish what he intended (or atleast didn't kill her when he meant to) which is actually not good. His brazen attitude is a cry to get caught, bound or not, he has left a victim alive. He will continue killing people until he is caught, which will hopefully be soon. He cares about money, but not human life... But I think he is aware. He'll be reading the papers, possibly online, he'll know that everyone is looking for him. I'd be on my guard if I was on the outskirts of town, farms etc. because he's going to still have his hunger for control, money, and what he thinks of as "power", but everyone in the city will be on their guard. He will not stop until he is stopped. He has a taste for this, probably thinks of himself as a peoples hero, with time he will brag. Hopefully he doesn't get that time.

/Just my $.02
//Good luck guys.

You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Agent Starling? And that accent you've tried so desperately to shed: pure West Virginia. What is your father, dear? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you... all those tedious sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars... while you could only dream of getting out... getting anywhere... getting all the way to the FBI.

Begoggle: PfizerX: Well, as a person that has studied serial killers for over half his life, I'd be more than happy to help out. I doubt that anything that I know would be anything of any importance, especially if they already have Federal agents on the case but... Fark it, let me give a mild profile just from reading this article and one other.

Your suspect is a white male, somewhere in the usual space between 20 and 50, but what will set him apart is he was recently released from a job or something he held close to him, possibly a relationship. Something made him break. He has lost his faith in humanity, because he's not only robbing, but killing too... Yet he left the young girl alive. There is something there. Even if she was wounded, a true killer will finish the job if he has that hate in him, we've seen it before. He has bound his victims but if judging by this last case, didn't finish what he intended (or atleast didn't kill her when he meant to) which is actually not good. His brazen attitude is a cry to get caught, bound or not, he has left a victim alive. He will continue killing people until he is caught, which will hopefully be soon. He cares about money, but not human life... But I think he is aware. He'll be reading the papers, possibly online, he'll know that everyone is looking for him. I'd be on my guard if I was on the outskirts of town, farms etc. because he's going to still have his hunger for control, money, and what he thinks of as "power", but everyone in the city will be on their guard. He will not stop until he is stopped. He has a taste for this, probably thinks of himself as a peoples hero, with time he will brag. Hopefully he doesn't get that time.

/Just my $.02
//Good luck guys.

You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well scrubbed, hustling rube with a little taste. Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Agent Starling? And that accent you've tried so desperately to shed: pure West Virginia. What is your father, dear? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you... all those tedious sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars... while you could only dream of getting out... getting anywhere... getting all the way to the FBI.

So awesome.

Bagelox-99: I didn't think serial killers liked using guns. Too easy to trace, and your victim tends to die too quickly.

The Zodiac killer would beg to differ.

Then shoot you and your girlfriend as you're neckin' in the park and never get caught.

If i ever end up in south carolina i hope a serial killer offs me.

The actress Andie McDowell was born in Gaffney. Groundhog Day.

As a South Carolina resident, I would just like to remind everyone that our peaches are more juiciful than Georgia's, and our capitol city's (Columbia) new slogan is....drumroll...wait for it... "Famously Hot".

*sigh

The store owner's daughter died - 5th victim.

PfizerX: Your suspect is a white male, somewhere in the usual space between 20 and 50, but what will set him apart is he was recently released from a job or something he held close to him, possibly a relationship. Something made him break. He has lost his faith in humanity, because he's not only robbing, but killing too... Yet he left the young girl alive. There is something there. Even if she was wounded, a true killer will finish the job if he has that hate in him, we've seen it before. He has bound his victims but if judging by this last case, didn't finish what he intended (or atleast didn't kill her when he meant to) which is actually not good. His brazen attitude is a cry to get caught, bound or not, he has left a victim alive. He will continue killing people until he is caught, which will hopefully be soon. He cares about money, but not human life... But I think he is aware. He'll be reading the papers, possibly online, he'll know that everyone is looking for him. I'd be on my guard if I was on the outskirts of town, farms etc. because he's going to still have his hunger for control, money, and what he thinks of as "power", but everyone in the city will be on their guard. He will not stop until he is stopped. He has a taste for this, probably thinks of himself as a peoples hero, with time he will brag. Hopefully he doesn't get that time.

You just described half of Fark, you know.

Need suggestions, Mr. Serial Killer?