Rockdrummer: We've never had a resolution AND an arrogant ass of a rookie politician who thinks he should be emperor for life.

Oh, come on. Now you are just looking for bites. Goodbye.

sarcastrophe: Oh man... I apologize. I completely misunderstood. I thought this was just a shot in the dark conclusion by you. Certainly then you have some evidence to support your conclusion, right?

Apology accepted. I never made any "conclusion". That was your mistake.

blogwiz: demanton: Right wing whackos are a bunch of sniveling, mewling pussies.

Really? Then what do you call the left wing whackos, demantons whussies? LOL

Hahaha, you told him.

Procedural Texture: The price of freedom is indeed eternal vigilance...but maybe you should actually wait for word that someone's actually proposing a Constitutional Amendment and then campaign against it.

And frankly, even if such an amendment was proposed and legally passed, the integrity of democracy is not significantly harmed, if at all. The integrity of democracy lies in transparent fair elections in which everyone can participate and all votes are counted. Anything else is fine tuning.

It is not hard to make the case that the electoral college and first-past-the-post voting systems do orders of magnitude more harm to the spirit of democracy than revoking the 22nd Amendment would.

Oh, and the reason people were watchful and suspicious of Bush's smooth departure was that his whole administration was characterized by violating the spirit and letter of the law and generally shiatting all over the constitution. It is hard to make that case against Obama.

But again, by all means, be vigilant.

Wikipedia article on the 22nd Amendment (link pops like an October Surprise)

Thanks for your permission I think I will because I believe we need term limits on all politicians, because if they all had term limits maybe just maybe we can actually get some work out of them in their last term! Because the way it stands now they get elected work a few months then the start working on getting re elected and don't do the job we elected them for in the first place!

The 22nd Ammendment was done mostly by Republicans, whe were upset that Democrat FDR was elected to four terms.

So which Presidents were not legally able to run for a third term due to the 22nd?

Eisenhower, Republican

Reagan, Republican

Clinton, Democrat

George W. Bush, Republican.

The others were either assassinated (JFK), didn't run again (Johnson) or were defeated in re-election (Ford, Carter, George H.W. Bush)

simpsonfan: The 22nd Ammendment was done mostly by Republicans, whe were upset that Democrat FDR was elected to four terms.

And the whole damned country ratified it just so you couldn't make the argument partisan.

What was your point again?

Cromar: Left wing loonies said the same thing about Bush. Move along, nothing to see here.

The problem is that you have let your loonies take over the right wing slanted media. This is not just some random dude on the internet, this has been repeated on Fox News and every talk radio show over the last week or so.

I can't believe I'm the first person to notice this:

TFA: Upon Obama's taking office, Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y., introduced legislation in the House to repeal the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution, which limits presidents to two consecutive terms or 10 years in office.

I guess Newsmax is trying to give Bush those two more years he really needs to turn this economy around and get Bin Laden.

No, no I was assured in another thread that only about 1% of his listeners actually believe him. The rest know he is just an entertainer like Stephen Colbert. It is apparently all a big joke played on all of us stupid libs.

You realize how hard you got trolled in that thread right? At the end of thread the guy even said he was, and it was pretty obvious in the actual thread.

I even have that thread bookmarked as an epic example of fine trolling. Lol hilarious that people days later still don't get it even with all the hints. I'm not even conservative and I gotta give that guy props for how hard he nailed you guys, face it he took your frothing Limbaugh rage and made that into a great great thread.

Lost Thought 00: Said the same thing about Bush, and Clinton, and Reagan, and probably Eisenhower too. Happens to all 2 term Presidents.

Some wishful thinking there don't you think? Because once unemployment hit 10%+ and people see his plan was just a bunch of BS he may have a harder time than people think!

He did say when he was trying to get the people behind his stimulus bill that "if we didn't pass this right away that unemployment could reach 10%" but he also said that "if passed now we can keep it to only 8%".....but just this week obama came out and said we would hit 10% and maybe more before it gets better!
So what are we suppose to believe? I know maybe we should believe that a nonprofit insurance company is good competion for an insurance company that depends on profit to stay in business, because thats what obama is telling us now instead of taking the health care system we already have in place and fixing it by working with the doctors and insurers and finding ways to cut cost in the system!

GaryPDX: me_the_farker: GaryPDX: Wow, this place really is the Freeperville of the Left. Funny thing is, most of you are zombie food and don't even know it.

I liked you better when you weren't on this zombie kick your on.

At the rate the economy and debt spending is going, Obama, and the democrats, won't get past 2012.

I believe some dems won't make it past 2010(pelosi I hope)!

Prospero424: Apology accepted. I never made any "conclusion". That was your mistake.

Well it's good to know you admit you were talking out of your ass then.

danwiseman: Oh come on...do they REALLY think this is an option?

Also, of course consider that if Obama was elected again in 2012 and was allowed to run again in 2016 AND WON, that mean he did a heckuva jobTM

Well he is off to a lousy start! He has put my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great (well you get it) grandkids will be paying for what he is doing....people are already calling for him to cancel the rest of the stimulus bill mainly because they aren't seeing anything good coming from it!

I'd actually support that. Without the 22nd ammendment, Bill Clinton would've been elected for a third term and we'd all be drinking liquid gold from platinum chalices.

blogwiz: GaryPDX: me_the_farker: GaryPDX: Wow, this place really is the Freeperville of the Left. Funny thing is, most of you are zombie food and don't even know it.

I liked you better when you weren't on this zombie kick your on.

At the rate the economy and debt spending is going, Obama, and the democrats, won't get past 2012.

I believe some dems won't make it past 2010(pelosi I hope)!

And Dodd and Fwank

blogwiz: danwiseman: Oh come on...do they REALLY think this is an option?

Also, of course consider that if Obama was elected again in 2012 and was allowed to run again in 2016 AND WON, that mean he did a heckuva jobTM

Well he is off to a lousy start! He has put my great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great (well you get it) grandkids will be paying for what he is doing....people are already calling for him to cancel the rest of the stimulus bill mainly because they aren't seeing anything good coming from it!

So, he added a great?

how the hell is a news max link listed as anything other then fascist

cardex: how the hell is a news max link listed as anything other then fascist

We need righty wharrgarbl to balance left-wing reality. It is Drew's idea of fair and balanced.

sarcastrophe: Well it's good to know you admit you were talking out of your ass then.

And it's good to know that you're behaving like a petty little biatch. Noted for future reference.

Sabyen91: We need righty wharrgarbl to balance left-wing reality. It is Drew's idea of fair and balanced.


true but most of the time right wing wharrgable is properly identified as right wing wharrgable, when right wing wharrgable is represented as neutral it throws the balance off.

newsmax should auto flagged as right win wharrgable just like moveon.org should be auto flagged as left wing wharrgable


/likes typing wharrgable
// wharrgable wharrgable wharrgable

I also heard he has moved nuclear warheads to aim at middle america.
Why not? It's as likely as anything else he has been accused of.

cardex: Sabyen91: We need righty wharrgarbl to balance left-wing reality. It is Drew's idea of fair and balanced.


true but most of the time right wing wharrgable is properly identified as right wing wharrgable, when right wing wharrgable is represented as neutral it throws the balance off.

newsmax should auto flagged as right win wharrgable just like moveon.org should be auto flagged as left wing wharrgable


/likes typing wharrgable
// wharrgable wharrgable wharrgable

The PITA rarely shows reality. People just ignore it now.

So Newsmax has already admitted defeat in 2012?

Occulto: NobleHam: Even if this were true, I wouldn't care. I've always thought the 22nd amendment was stupid anyway. If the people want to elect someone three times, let them. It worked out pretty well with FDR, and we might not have had to deal with Bush if Clinton had gotten another chance.

Term limits seem counter productive for elected representatives. You get a rep who just doesn't care what they do (or even if they do anything at all). They don't give a shiat whether they piss off the electorate because they no longer need voters to return them to office.

Isn't the US president basically irrelevant in the final 12 months or so of their second term?

Well they don't do anything after a year anyway because they start working on being re elected!

The president is irrelevant in the final 12 months in any term, because in the first term they spend the last 12 months trying to stay in office and the second term the last 12 months they are lame ducks because the other party is fighting them tooth and nail so they can get their guy in office!

Prospero424: sarcastrophe: Well it's good to know you admit you were talking out of your ass then.

And it's good to know that you're behaving like a petty little biatch. Noted for future reference.

Do you even realize that you put forward somem bizarre conspiracy theory where your political opponents are pretending to be on your side in order to discredit you? Do you even remember doing this? I mean... I know your smarter than this. I've talked to you many times before. Maybe you should go back and read what you said.

blogwiz: Occulto: NobleHam: Even if this were true, I wouldn't care. I've always thought the 22nd amendment was stupid anyway. If the people want to elect someone three times, let them. It worked out pretty well with FDR, and we might not have had to deal with Bush if Clinton had gotten another chance.

Term limits seem counter productive for elected representatives. You get a rep who just doesn't care what they do (or even if they do anything at all). They don't give a shiat whether they piss off the electorate because they no longer need voters to return them to office.

Isn't the US president basically irrelevant in the final 12 months or so of their second term?

Well they don't do anything after a year anyway because they start working on being re elected!

The president is irrelevant in the final 12 months in any term, because in the first term they spend the last 12 months trying to stay in office and the second term the last 12 months they are lame ducks because the other party is fighting them tooth and nail so they can get their guy in office!

Yeah, the lame duck excuse is crazy. Either somebody is focused on reelection or they just get lazy because they only have a couple of years left.

sarcastrophe: Do you even realize that you put forward somem bizarre conspiracy theory where your political opponents are pretending to be on your side in order to discredit you? Do you even remember doing this? I mean... I know your smarter than this. I've talked to you many times before. Maybe you should go back and read what you said.

You know perfectly well it wasn't "bizarre", and that this stuff goes on all the time. I explained to you in clear terms why I thought the site was suspicious. You failed to even try to refute my argument in that regard. You ignored it and went straight to calling me a "retard".

If you were interested in reasonable dialog rather than satisfying some petty grudge or ego boost by ridicule, you wouldn't have started off your responses by ignoring my argument and going straight to juvenile name calling.

Anyone reading this exchange can see exactly who went off the rails, here. And it wasn't me.

Unless you can show that you're interested in adult conversation, I'm done with you for the night.

Prospero424: Also, I'm willing to bet good money that this "end22.com" place the article and some of the rightie blogs are going crazy over was set up by some Glenn Beck types trying to stir the pot.

Alright.... well I guess I should invest in some tinfoil then.

This was nuts when people said it about Bush, it's nuts now.

ghare: This was nuts when people said it about Bush, it's nuts now.

This is something I can agree with... especially considering it's only BEEN 6 GOD DAMNED MONTHS.

Happy Independence Day everyone!

Man, that was a great movie.

Herman Borrach: Happy Independence Day everyone!

Man, that was a great movie.

It was? Was that the one with the black president or the one with the gay guy with the hot chick?

Herman Borrach: Happy Independence Day everyone!

Man, that was a great movie.

RIP, Jeff Goldblum... RIP...

"So this Independence day, those that will bother, will sing songs and give speeches glorifying our Freedom, our Independence. We will wave flags and pay hollow honors to those who have died to protect what others have died to give us. We will puff our chests with pride and glory.

Then come Monday we will meekly return to subservience declaring our distaste for politics, i.e. excuse for not taking action, allowing all that Jesus and other liberators stood for, all that this country stood for, all that generation after generation of American Soldiers have died for, to go straight to farking hell!

And then get indignant should someone suggest, that maybe we ain't so patriotic after all......."

The only problem, RG, is that far too many people who read your post will actually think that government bail-outs, stimulus packages, public option health care plans, trampling civil liberties in the name of freedom, and a military interventionist foreign policy are expressions of our freedom as a people and not the death of them.

Stolen from: http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2009/07/happy-fourth-of-july-suckers.ht m l (new window)

Prospero424: Herman Borrach: Happy Independence Day everyone!

Man, that was a great movie.

RIP, Jeff Goldblum... RIP...

Hehe, dammit. Stop telling everybody I am dead.

sarcastrophe: "So this Independence day, those that will bother, will sing songs and give speeches glorifying our Freedom, our Independence. We will wave flags and pay hollow honors to those who have died to protect what others have died to give us. We will puff our chests with pride and glory.

Then come Monday we will meekly return to subservience declaring our distaste for politics, i.e. excuse for not taking action, allowing all that Jesus and other liberators stood for, all that this country stood for, all that generation after generation of American Soldiers have died for, to go straight to farking hell!

And then get indignant should someone suggest, that maybe we ain't so patriotic after all......."

The only problem, RG, is that far too many people who read your post will actually think that government bail-outs, stimulus packages, public option health care plans, trampling civil liberties in the name of freedom, and a military interventionist foreign policy are expressions of our freedom as a people and not the death of them.

Stolen from: http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2009/07/happy-fourth-of-july-suckers.ht m l (new window)

You should have left it unstolen!

diadelsuerte: Why not.. just like a good employee, once you find the guy you are looking for you don't fire him.

It's not like anyone would be able to compete with him in an election.

I really wouldn't have a problem with him being President for life.

Your another one of those blind followers of obama I see, I quess you believe his idea that we should have a not for profit health insurance company compete agianst companies that have to make a profit to stay in business because he thinks they need competion to keep their cost down....for one they can't compete agianst a not for profit company its just not possible plus they already have competion with other for profit companies!

His idea kills insurance companies putting even more people out of work and makes his insurance company the only one left meaning government run health care system!

We can fix the system we have and offer health care at a reasonable price, for one keep the lawyers out of it and then get all hospitals, doctors and pharmacy's connected through the internet so we can cut out alot of double and triple testing of sick people which will cut cost and a punch of problems can be fix by just doing this one thing and cutting alot of cost!

*fireworks*

moothemagiccow: was I really this ridiculous two years ago?

More than likely! LOL

Crosshair: Dammit can we PLEASE kick the neoconservatives and Moral Conservatives to the curb. The GOP will gain 2 votes for every vote they loose by doing so.

Get rid of the moral issues and the Dems are going to be in for a world of hurt.

I disagree. Get rid of the moral issues and the poor who support the GOP now have no reason to not vote Dem.

blogwiz: diadelsuerte: Why not.. just like a good employee, once you find the guy you are looking for you don't fire him.

It's not like anyone would be able to compete with him in an election.

I really wouldn't have a problem with him being President for life.

Your another one of those blind followers of obama I see, I quess you believe his idea that we should have a not for profit health insurance company compete agianst companies that have to make a profit to stay in business because he thinks they need competion to keep their cost down....for one they can't compete agianst a not for profit company its just not possible plus they already have competion with other for profit companies!

His idea kills insurance companies putting even more people out of work and makes his insurance company the only one left meaning government run health care system!

We can fix the system we have and offer health care at a reasonable price, for one keep the lawyers out of it and then get all hospitals, doctors and pharmacy's connected through the internet so we can cut out alot of double and triple testing of sick people which will cut cost and a punch of problems can be fix by just doing this one thing and cutting alot of cost!

Anybody who says, "blind follower of Obama" automatically gets the douchebag tag.

These people just regurgitate the same stuff liberals said over the past 8 years.


Wingnuts are not known for creativity or originality.

Sygerrik: FishingWithFredo: Hah!

I'd like to see Obama try and go all Hugo.

We need a good civil war every 150 years or so.

You get the Congress, government bureaucrats, trial lawyers and the Judges on your side; we'll have the military and the bitter rural people who cling to their guns.

Wonder who would win?

Any conservative who thinks the military would side against the government in any civil war is encouraged to attempt to test this belief. The chain of command is long and winding, but it ends at the White House, not the chain-link gate to Real America's trailer park.

LOL You never served did you? A chain of command doesn't work when the ones taking the orders don't agree with the orders and believe me the ones with the most guns are the ones who are taking the orders!

blogwiz: Sygerrik: FishingWithFredo: Hah!

I'd like to see Obama try and go all Hugo.

We need a good civil war every 150 years or so.

You get the Congress, government bureaucrats, trial lawyers and the Judges on your side; we'll have the military and the bitter rural people who cling to their guns.

Wonder who would win?

Any conservative who thinks the military would side against the government in any civil war is encouraged to attempt to test this belief. The chain of command is long and winding, but it ends at the White House, not the chain-link gate to Real America's trailer park.

LOL You never served did you? A chain of command doesn't work when the ones taking the orders don't agree with the orders and believe me the ones with the most guns are the ones who are taking the orders!

So you are saying the military is full of traitors? That is weird.

Sabyen91: blogwiz: diadelsuerte: Why not.. just like a good employee, once you find the guy you are looking for you don't fire him.

It's not like anyone would be able to compete with him in an election.

I really wouldn't have a problem with him being President for life.

Your another one of those blind followers of obama I see, I quess you believe his idea that we should have a not for profit health insurance company compete agianst companies that have to make a profit to stay in business because he thinks they need competion to keep their cost down....for one they can't compete agianst a not for profit company its just not possible plus they already have competion with other for profit companies!

His idea kills insurance companies putting even more people out of work and makes his insurance company the only one left meaning government run health care system!

We can fix the system we have and offer health care at a reasonable price, for one keep the lawyers out of it and then get all hospitals, doctors and pharmacy's connected through the internet so we can cut out alot of double and triple testing of sick people which will cut cost and a punch of problems can be fix by just doing this one thing and cutting alot of cost!

Anybody who says, "blind follower of Obama" automatically gets the douchebag tag.

Is that good? LMAO

Elektrohed: FishingWithFredo: Hah!

I'd like to see Obama try and go all Hugo.

We need a good civil war every 150 years or so.

You get the Congress, government bureaucrats, trial lawyers and the Judges on your side; we'll have the military and the bitter rural people who cling to their guns.

Wonder who would win?

Dude, really? And Joe Biden? Man can't form a sentence. What the fark are you talking about??


As far as the Biden thing goes, my humor is so FAIL-tastic. *Hangs head in shame*

blogwiz: Sabyen91: blogwiz: diadelsuerte: Why not.. just like a good employee, once you find the guy you are looking for you don't fire him.

It's not like anyone would be able to compete with him in an election.

I really wouldn't have a problem with him being President for life.

Your another one of those blind followers of obama I see, I quess you believe his idea that we should have a not for profit health insurance company compete agianst companies that have to make a profit to stay in business because he thinks they need competion to keep their cost down....for one they can't compete agianst a not for profit company its just not possible plus they already have competion with other for profit companies!

His idea kills insurance companies putting even more people out of work and makes his insurance company the only one left meaning government run health care system!

We can fix the system we have and offer health care at a reasonable price, for one keep the lawyers out of it and then get all hospitals, doctors and pharmacy's connected through the internet so we can cut out alot of double and triple testing of sick people which will cut cost and a punch of problems can be fix by just doing this one thing and cutting alot of cost!

Anybody who says, "blind follower of Obama" automatically gets the douchebag tag.

Is that good? LMAO

Well, perhaps. I like vinegar on my subs.

Crosshair:

Fair enough. Although I voted Obambi, I know full well both parties are full of shiat.

YodaBlues: Crosshair:

Fair enough. Although I voted Obambi, I know full well both parties are full of shiat.

Obambi? The only place I have seen that is that crazy Hillaryis45 site. You want to admit something?

Sabyen91: YodaBlues: Crosshair:

Fair enough. Although I voted Obambi, I know full well both parties are full of shiat.

Obambi? The only place I have seen that is that crazy Hillaryis45 site. You want to admit something?

Or 44.