When you've got THAT much talent, there's going to be some great guys missing the boat....
Plus with injuries some of these guys will get a shot.

Look people, I KNOW we're Canadians, but can we not discuss hockey in friggin' July?

40below: Look people, I KNOW we're Canadians, but can we not discuss hockey in friggin' July?

A member of the special StatsCan CRTC CHL RCMP brute squad will be around shortly to collect your passport and begin your reeducation, comrade. Try not to fight back, it only makes it worse.

40below: Look people, I KNOW we're Canadians, but can we not discuss hockey in friggin' July?

Wow, 40below. You're a great Canadian. This nation owes you a huge debt.

NOW STFU AND LET ME TALK ABOUT HOCKEY!


:)

That's a pretty good list. I'm happy to see some of the younger guys like Getzlaf and Toews on there.

Hockey Canada unveils it is Olympic Team camp invites?

Hockey is 24/7

What? You mean Osgood didn't make it with the likes of Brodeur, Luongo, Fleury, Mason, and Ward?

Colour me surprised.

I wouldn't mind if Heatley got snubbed, but I guess the people in charge aren't jerks like me.

Savard was hosed...

Ofcoarse Osgood wouldnt get an invite. He could have won the cup and STILL not get an invite. Canadians hate the Wings because they're now the enemy of Crosburgh.


And seriously, Cam Ward? He stood on his head through a couple rounds whoopdy farkin do. Osgood has been doing it for how long now?

40below: Look people, I KNOW we're Canadians, but can we not discuss hockey in friggin' July?

We're not actually sure you're Canadian after that...

bobbette: That's a pretty good list. I'm happy to see some of the younger guys like Getzlaf and Toews on there.

Me too. Just about everybody is going to second guess the list and can thing of at least one player that just should be there in place of another.

Tr0mBoNe: Book it. Done.

For whom? It's no sure thing that Canada will win. My money is on Sweden, then either Russia or Canada.

/unless farking Belarus topples Sweden again

Isn't Savard known as a bit of a dick? But really, invite him over Andy McDonald, neither would make the team but at least Savard seems to belong there.

I_Love_Cheesecake: My money is on Sweden, then either Russia or Canada.

Not so sure about Sweden this time around. Some of the serious staples of the Swedish team are going to be missing or moving past their prime. Now Russia, on the other hand, is likely going to be icing a highly talented and young team, much like Canada, but hopefully home ice gives Canada that extra little edge.

Having said all that, it's a one game "playoff" and anything at all can happen in just one game hence the reason that Sweden's womens team managed to knock out the United States for a silver. Mind you, that was about the second best thing that could have happened for women's hockey on the International stage, it was becoming a bit of a farce.

/I'll leave you to guess the best thing that could have happened for women's hockey.

zippolight2002: Ofcoarse Osgood wouldnt get an invite. He could have won the cup and STILL not get an invite. Canadians hate the Wings because they're now the enemy of Crosburgh.

this is obviously why the head coach of Team Canada is Mike Babcock and the Executive Director of Team Canada is Steve Yzerman, and they did all the choosing.

"Executive director Steve Yzerman said that he, in conjunction with Babcock's staff, whittled down their preliminary player list to what they deemed a workable number - 46 - so the coaches could run a proper and manageable orientation camp, which will be held in Calgary during the final week of August."

http://www.ctvolympics.ca/news-centre/newsid=12460.html#hockey+canada+invites+ olympic+camp (new window)

I_Love_Cheesecake: Tr0mBoNe: Book it. Done.

For whom? It's no sure thing that Canada will win. My money is on Sweden, then either Russia or Canada.

/unless farking Belarus topples Sweden again

Bita din tunga!

/Sverige!

I think Spezza was left off of the list because he's too one dimensional.

Stamkos not being on the list is a little surprising, seeing how well he played for Team Canada at the Worlds this past spring...but then again, the same thing happened to Crosby in 2006.

Savard not being on the list is an epic failure on Team canada's part. He's been a point+ per game player since 03-04 on GARBAGE teams (excluding last year's Bruins squad). Other than the fact that he's a notorious jerk, I can't see why he's not on the tryout camp list. Especially with Heatley on the list...

At the end of the day though, it won't matter. Canada's going to win gold this time around and there's nothing the world can do to stop us!

/MWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

zippolight2002: Canadians hate the Wings because they're now the enemy of Crosburgh.

Are you at all aware that the guy making the decision is Steve Yzerman?

Here's the list:

Goaltenders

Martin Brodeur, New Jersey
Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh
Roberto Luongo, Vancouver
Steve Mason, Columbus
Cam Ward, Carolina

Defensemen

Francois Beauchemin, UFA
Jay Bouwmeester, Calgary
Dan Boyle, San Jose
Brent Burns, Minnesota
Drew Doughty, Los Angeles
Mike Green, Washington
Dan Hamhuis, Nashville
Duncan Keith, Chicago
Scott Niedermayer, Anaheim
Dion Phaneuf, Calgary
Chris Pronger, Philadelphia
Robyn Regehr, Calgary
Stephane Robidas, Dallas
Brent Seabrook, Chicago
Marc Staal, New York Rangers
Shea Weber, Nashville

Forwards

Jeff Carter, Philadelphia
Dan Cleary, Detroit
Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh
Shane Doan, Phoenix
Simon Gagne, Philadelphia
Ryan Getzlaf, Anaheim
Dany Heatley, Ottawa
Jarome Iginla, Calgary
Vincent Lecavalier, Tampa Bay
Milan Lucic, Boston
Patrick Marleau, San Jose
Andy McDonald, St. Louis
Brenden Morrow, Dallas
Rick Nash, Columbus
Corey Perry, Anaheim
Mike Richards, Philadelphia
Derek Roy, Buffalo
Joe Sakic, Colorado
Patrick Sharp, Chicago
Ryan Smyth, Colorado
Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay
Eric Staal, Carolina
Jordan Staal, Pittsburgh
Joe Thornton, San Jose
Jonathan Toews, Chicago

There are players better than Savard on that list, so to me that one is not surprising. Osgood... well honestly, when you have Luongo, Brodeur and Ward, you have to expect Osgood not to be invited. Spezza is very talented but is generally too selfish. You can't afford players like that when you play at home. Brad Richards is a good player and could have been invited but not everyone is invited, too bad for him. Same for Stamkos. He did very good in the world championships but you gotta stop inviting people at some point. With 46 invitees and room for 23, there's gonna be a lot more to talk about once they shed half the players.

/would love to have that roster for a full season

spiral8: I think Spezza was left off of the list because he's too one dimensional.

One dimensional? No.

Defensive liability? When he's off his game, then yes.

A well built hockey team needs players to fill a lot of roles: you need a scoring line, preferably two, you have to have goaltending, puckmoving D'men all of the obvious people.
But: to win a championship at the world level what you really need is the top player at each of the depth positions. You have to have the best playmaker ITW at center on your first line, but you also need the best faceoff man ITW on your penalty kill, and if he can also step in on the power play, that is a hell of a bonus. You have to have the best offensive D'man but you need the best stay at home man as well.
In the Worlds here in Halifax last year, the Canadian team had to use Jason Farking Spezza as a checking center!!!

Stevie Y's prliminary list looks to avoid these obvious pitfalls.
I think the Canadian team will do very well.

It is?

Whoops, extra apostrophe in there....

Actually, of the guys I put in the headline, the only one that surprises me is Savard, though Canada is so incredibly deep at centre I could see it happening (that and apparently nobody really likes him).

Some surprises on forward for me where Lucic, Roy, Cleary and Morrow.

I understand after the "debacle" at Turin that Yzerman would want some grit in the lineup, though.

No Ovechkin? I guess he really is overrated. Can't even make the Olympic team.

zippolight2002: Ofcoarse Osgood wouldnt get an invite. He could have won the cup and STILL not get an invite. Canadians hate the Wings because they're now the enemy of Crosburgh.

Yzerman is making the decisions. Plus, look at the guys who got invited. All better than Osgood. Osgood is great, but the five who were selected are better.

Well at least they can run out a line half-consisting of Staals.

zippolight2002: Ofcoarse Osgood wouldnt get an invite. He could have won the cup and STILL not get an invite. Canadians hate the Wings because they're now the enemy of Crosburgh.


And seriously, Cam Ward? He stood on his head through a couple rounds whoopdy farkin do. Osgood has been doing it for how long now?



HAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh wow. Just...wow.

You do know that Yzerman and Babcock made the list of invites...right?

/ofcoarse you do... lol

waiting4godot: No Ovechkin? I guess he really is overrated. Can't even make the Olympic team.

CANADIAN Olympic Team

Dude, seriously, put down the weed

zippolight2002: Ofcoarse Osgood wouldnt get an invite. He could have won the cup and STILL not get an invite. Canadians hate the Wings because they're now the enemy of Crosburgh.


And seriously, Cam Ward? He stood on his head through a couple rounds whoopdy farkin do. Osgood has been doing it for how long now?

Dude, chill. Yzerman and Babcock made this list. Osgood's not better than Brodeur or Luongo, and likely Mason or Fleury will be the third goalie to give them some international experience.

And no, Osgood's NOT that good compared to who was invited. Regular season performances do count.

Vote for Rory Fitpatrick!!

Errrr....Fitzpatrick.

zippolight2002: Ofcoarse Osgood wouldnt get an invite. He could have won the cup and STILL not get an invite. Canadians hate the Wings because they're now the enemy of Crosburgh.

So you're saying that Yzerman and Babcock hate Detroit and would compromise the national team only to appease Pittsburgh?

I've read a ton of stupid stuff on Fark, but this is probably the most stupid thing ever posted here, ever.

This has nothing to do with the Olympic team, but Rick Nash just signed an extension with Columbus tonight. Suck it, Toronto. Suck it for the next 8 years.

People still play and watch hockey?

No Oilers on the Canadian team, AGAIN!

/not really suprised

waiting4godot: No Ovechkin? I guess he really is overrated. Can't even make the Olympic team.

Yeah he's not Canadian....

whereisian Quote 2009-07-03 08:26:45 PM
spiral8: I think Spezza was left off of the list because he's too one dimensional.

One dimensional? No.

Defensive liability? When he's off his game, then yes.

What Spezza are you watching?

Also maybe his coke problem is keeping him off the team.

They picked Cam Ward over Osgood?

I mean, sure I hate ol' diving, cheap shot Osgood, but he is still more talented that people like Ward.

How many of them were born in January?

I bet a lot.

whereisian: spiral8: I think Spezza was left off of the list because he's too one dimensional.

One dimensional? No.

Defensive liability? When he's off his game, then yes.

Having watched Spezza for a number of years now, Spezza is a woefully 1-dimensional player. He is barely able to play defense at an NHL level. His physical play is dental - incidental, accidental. His face-off skills and skating are woefully inconsistent; when he's good, he a deceptively quick skater, and deadly on the face offs. His attitude and work ethic are always suspect; in the same shift, he is liable to make an astoundingly brilliant play in the offensive zone, doggedly go after the puck as the other team is trying to clear it, steal it, make another brilliant play, and then if the puck is cleared... lazily skate back and visibly ponder ending his shift while he should be backchecking.

If his name was Jacek Spezov, he'd be Don Cherry's poster boy for terrible European players. There's no way I'd want to see him representing Canada at the Olympics. Half the time, I don't even want to see him on the Sens. (luckily, half of the time I don't want to see him, I don't see him. Unfortunately, half of the time I do want to see him, I don't see him either.) And without Heatley on the wing, there is absolutely no way he's going to play himself onto that team.

Spezza is an offensive genius, but he's not nearly good enough to warrant much more than a cursory glance by Team Canada. That's it, that's all.

/Go Sens Go!

Up and Atom: This has nothing to do with the Olympic team, but Rick Nash just signed an extension with Columbus tonight. Suck it, Toronto. Suck it for the next 8 years.

Damn, and here we thought Nash was the one to turn everything around up there!

whereisian: Here's the list:

Goaltenders

Martin Brodeur, New Jersey
Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh
Roberto Luongo, Vancouver
Steve Mason, Columbus
Cam Ward, Carolina

Defensemen

Francois Beauchemin, UFA
Jay Bouwmeester, Calgary
Dan Boyle, San Jose
Brent Burns, Minnesota
Drew Doughty, Los Angeles
Mike Green, Washington
Dan Hamhuis, Nashville
Duncan Keith, Chicago
Scott Niedermayer, Anaheim
Dion Phaneuf, Calgary
Chris Pronger, Philadelphia
Robyn Regehr, Calgary
Stephane Robidas, Dallas
Brent Seabrook, Chicago
Marc Staal, New York Rangers
Shea Weber, Nashville

Forwards

Jeff Carter, Philadelphia
Dan Cleary, Detroit
Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh
Shane Doan, Phoenix
Simon Gagne, Philadelphia
Ryan Getzlaf, Anaheim
Dany Heatley, Ottawa
Jarome Iginla, Calgary
Vincent Lecavalier, Tampa Bay
Milan Lucic, Boston
Patrick Marleau, San Jose
Andy McDonald, St. Louis
Brenden Morrow, Dallas
Rick Nash, Columbus
Corey Perry, Anaheim
Mike Richards, Philadelphia
Derek Roy, Buffalo
Joe Sakic, Colorado
Patrick Sharp, Chicago
Ryan Smyth, Colorado
Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay
Eric Staal, Carolina
Jordan Staal, Pittsburgh
Joe Thornton, San Jose
Jonathan Toews, Chicago

Damn...Thats a scary team. Im still surprised that Stamkos wasnt invited

spqr_ca: zippolight2002: Canadians hate the Wings because they're now the enemy of Crosburgh.

Are you at all aware that the guy making the decision is Steve Yzerman?

lol i was about to say the same thing.

With that roster and home ice the rest of the world is competing for silver.

4NSpy: I wouldn't mind if Heatley got snubbed, but I guess the people in charge aren't jerks like me.

Heatley could still find himself as a spectator along with the rest of us. If he decides to pull a hissy fit and not show up to the Senators training camp, or worse, show up and then half-ass it for the rest of the season, it could jeopardize his spot on the Team Canada roster. So, it's either accept a trade that has received a Murray stamp of approval, play your ass off with the Ottawa Senators, or sit out and lose your spot on Team Canada. I have to say, at this point, I really don't have a problem with any of those scenarios.

And while I'm on it, I still don't know why people keep acting surprised that Heatley was named to the Team Canada roster. When was the last time you ever saw a talented player being kept from playing in another organization because of a public spat? Ray Emery has a job in the NHL. Pronger and Comrie are still playing. Lindros was captain of Team Canada back in 1998. Hell, if you want to go to an extreme, even Todd Bertuzzi is still playing, and he almost killed a man.

Yarr, BIG trade news - Avalanche have traded Ryan Smyth to the Kings

Quadraton: And while I'm on it, I still don't know why people keep acting surprised that Heatley was named to the Team Canada roster. When was the last time you ever saw a talented player being kept from playing in another organization because of a public spat? Ray Emery has a job in the NHL. Pronger and Comrie are still playing. Lindros was captain of Team Canada back in 1998. Hell, if you want to go to an extreme, even Todd Bertuzzi is still playing, and he almost killed a man.

I have no problem with Heatley playing after the car accident, but more of a beef with how he's handling himself this offseason.