How bad do we suck as a nation that it took THIS long to do this?

Since I went up the crown last year I am getting a kick on how stupid subby and this article are.

/select groups have been allowed
//stop being a moron and believing everything you read moron

eggrolls: I'm genuinely surprised they reopened the crown at all. I spoke to the NPS Rangers who ran Liberty & Ellis Island several years ago, and they were relieved the statue had been closed to the public. Not because of terrorist threats, but for safety issues. There is NO evacuation possible from the crown if there's a fire in the base, and the statue will basically become a large copper chimney, funneling smoke right up to choke everyone to death even if the fire never reaches them.

That being said, I will absolutely try to get a ticket next time I'm in NYC.

Exactly. The crown was never designed nor intended to be a tourist destination. There's a reason why it's so hellish to get to the top - it was designed for maintenance access only. 9/11 may have been the catalyst for closing it, but it should have stayed closed. This is just another example of the "if we don't do X, the terrorists win" mantra in action.

BrokenDrew: Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp! We're full!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door! Stay the fark out!"

Now, for the more important question: Has anybody actually missed having it open?

BioStormX:
It's over 14% in Michigan.

If you don't factor in Detroit, it's not nearly so bad. And to be fair, no one should ever really factor in Detroit. For anything.

Soon Cheney or Bolton will claim this will allow the terrorists to have an excellent place from which to launch their ICBMs into Staten Island, or somesuch hysterical nonsense.

It should have re-opened a few weeks after September 11th.

Ikahoshi: Soon Cheney or Bolton will claim this will allow the terrorists to have an excellent place from which to launch their ICBMs into Staten Island, or somesuch hysterical nonsense.

It should have re-opened a few weeks after September 11th.

If they could launch an ICBM from the Statute of Liberty, the terrorists really WOULD have won. Not even SPECTRE got that far out of 007's control.

This should have the Sad tag not the Cool tag.

DarthBrooks: Where the hell are the rangers going to stand? It's a fricking spiral staircase!

In related news, the park service is putting out a call for extremely skinny individuals to serve as park rangers

Kevin5280: This should have the Sad tag not the Cool tag.

Technically it's cool that at least some parts of the culture of fear is gone.

Gyrfalcon: Now, for the more important question: Has anybody actually missed having it open?

Not I. I've been to NYC many times in the last 8 years and never bothered going. Went by it on the Circle Line one day, took some amazing photos of it, but didn't see a reason to actually go to the statue. Rather spend my time roaming around the city than hanging on an island.

But that's just me.

Coniferous: Its headless! Ahhhh!

I still have the GOTY edition of that next to my computer.

Too bad #2 stunk.

Remo Williams has returned.

I'm a little jealous of the ships with whom she flirts.

budsterr: Since I went up the crown last year I am getting a kick on how stupid subby and this article are.

You're the most.

You couldn't get on their website until the late afternoon the day the tickets went on sale. I finally got tickets for the end of July, thats how far out they had sold.

//never been to the crown.
//eagerly awaiting the trip.

So does this mean immigrints are free to enter the country again?

Really? You closed the US's biggest symbol of freedom because of terrorists? You really did let them win, you know that...

I guess no one in here has read the "posts devoid of content" part of the FARQ.

No no no.... Barry's promised if his packaged was passed it wouldnt go above 8..... he PROMISED!!!!

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Wow, I'm glad that plane didn't hit the second tower, because my friend of 17 years is in that one.
/I'll give Evan a call

mortimer_ford: Remo Williams has returned.

Man, that movie was 2 hours of my life I wish I had back.

HowlingFrog: Babies with Rabies: Remember, remember 11 September
Dick Cheney's treasonous plot
Constitution be danged, ol' Dick should be hanged
by the neck, and then burned, and then shot.

Not bad.

Not my best work. It was kinda off the cuff.

/filk is the highest art form

It is time like these I have to say what ever happend to

"This great Nation will endure as it has endured, will revive and will prosper. So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself-nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance. In every dark hour of our national life a leadership of frankness and vigor has met with that understanding and support of the people themselves which is essential to victory. I am convinced that you will again give that support to leadership in these critical days."

NittLion78: How bad do we suck as a nation that it took THIS long to do this?

Can you send me your keys to your home.

I went up into the crown back in '98. It's was surprising how small it is, how small he windows are. And you didn't have any time at all to look. There was a Park Ranger up there ushering people past the windows and back down the stairs.

Don't need to do that again.

A Shambling Mound: I'm still not entirely sure why they chose to close it in the first place. Statistically it would make more sense to close every farmer's market in the US than a major landmark if you're worried about bombings.

The rationale was that it's a relatively fragile monument and, because it's on an island, there would be a high density of tourists with no where to go during an attack.

I'll bring the Slime Throwers.

/"Anyone who's a national monument please raise your head!"
//"Hello Miss.."
///Came for the GB reference, leaves satisfied.

Kimball_Kinnison: It is time like these I have to say what ever happend to

Since then politicians have realized that making people afraid of everything allows them to do whatever they want.

The Power Of Nightmares is a good watch if you want to see what other parts of the world make of what's been going on in the US these past couple decades.

KinetiKiteniK: What's so special about November 9th?

Props to the Euros.

k4thrynnn: I remember climbing to the top when I was a little kid. It was horrifying to say the least. Being crammed in a 5 foot by 5 foot room at the top of a giant staircase with a bunch of sweaty strangers. Yeah, can't exactly say it was a highlight of my vacations as a kid. It was just a few months later that 9/11 happened so I guess I was lucky to be able to have gotten to the top of there.

Wow, you must still be young. And, yes, your profile shows you as 17. You might not want to tell the world that, jailbait.

Betcha the people who win the "lottery" aren't named Muhammed, Habib and Ahmed!

/this time the terrorists don't win!

I've been to the top and I would like to reiterate what others have said.

It is totally NOT worth it.

Seriously. Don't go. I promise you will be underwhelmed and disappointed.

Seriously, look at this video, it shows you what is inside. Those stairs really suck. The windows are really dirty, the top is a small platform.

jake3988: thatstremendous: May as well. We've been letting the government rail her in the ass for the past few years.
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That's a pretty frightening image. Maybe we should show the statue of liberty getting raped and people will start to complain :)

/As Obama is carrying over warrantless wiretaps. That's still a missing amendment to the constitution!

Thought that already happened in 1988:


/technically the aftermath
//hot like the porno in my other Firefox tab

jake3988: 7 years after it should have been opened, but better late than never...

If the original security measures had been anything other than random nonsense, I might agree. Unfortunately we got 7 years of retarded, pointless rules but thankfully those rules still exist everywhere else and are in the hands of rent a cops everywhere.

medic2731: Being one of the dozens, nay hundereds if no thougsands thqat have been in the crown, I say it about farking time that these governemtn shiatatains have reopened the people's monument. It is a sin that they closed is in the first place, and that we allowed it.

Yes I am drunk,

So what !!!

Radio host Bruce Williams ran a public campaign years ago to do so. My congressman gave pat replies that were non answers. Reopening was somehow too controversial for many representatives even though they received a pile of requests.

Who the fark would go through a metal detector to get to the Statue of Liberty? Idiots dont deserve freedom and don't have it. These farking slaves talking about freedom on the 4th of July! What a joke. You can keep your freedom.

Eudeyrn: fire

Eudeyrn: eggrolls: I'm genuinely surprised they reopened the crown at all. I spoke to the NPS Rangers who ran Liberty & Ellis Island several years ago, and they were relieved the statue had been closed to the public. Not because of terrorist threats, but for safety issues. There is NO evacuation possible from the crown if there's a fire in the base, and the statue will basically become a large copper chimney, funneling smoke right up to choke everyone to death even if the fire never reaches them.

That being said, I will absolutely try to get a ticket next time I'm in NYC.

Exactly. The crown was never designed nor intended to be a tourist destination. There's a reason why it's so hellish to get to the top - it was designed for maintenance access only. 9/11 may have been the catalyst for closing it, but it should have stayed closed. This is just another example of the "if we don't do X, the terrorists win" mantra in action.

Yeah, that base looks like such a tinder box with it's stone, steel and concrete support of the statue itself. Tough beans to the park rangers on the island. At least they get the easy gigs rather than having to pull someone from a ravine or cliff in Yellowstone.

If someone wants to take a chance having a heart attack or some crazy chance of a fire death, whats it anybody elses business. We have enough people running around trying to remove all the innocuous dangers in life. If you want more mantras to hate, others may point out the drive over the ferry depot is probably more dangerous than the hanging around inside it.

Bob Dolemite: NEDM: Wait, is it just going be open ONLY for the fourth, or is it reopening for good?

RTFA, jackass

When they closed it I sent a shiatty letter to the parks people. Glad to see it's going to be open again.

Well, sorry. I did read the article, and it implied it was only tomorrow. I was asking to make sure, as I am going to visit NYC in a month.

15,000 visitors a day. But 30 people an hour allowed up.
9.30-5pm opening hours so call that once an hour, that's 8 groups a day = 240 people will get to go up.
That's 1.6% of visitors will get to go up.
Not quite as exciting as it sounds, but seeing the video (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8133203.stm) you can totally understand it. Forget about fire risks etc, all you need is one person holding up everyone else or a medical emergency and that's problems galore.

Open for 2 years then closed again for more maintainance, so I guess that'll mean it'll be closed for the 10 year anniversary of 9/11?

Been there, done that. Cool experience for what it is, but pretty miserable getting to the top. It was July in N.Y. after all.

"9.... 11."

(the terrorists are working with the Legion of Doom)