Is the SATIRE tag taking the holiday off?

That's really a horrible argument.

Repeat after me: Correlation does not imply causation.

Pffft.

Ah, yes, where a girl can post a photo of herself with a turd in the toilet in the background.

I stopped reading after 'racist'.

That was so stupid it hurt. MySpace is losing user hand-over-fist to Facebook because the site is obnoxious as hell.

I couldn't finish the article, so I've no idea if was supposed to be satire.

Well, Facebook did start out as a college-only website...

And if white flight has moved to the internet, why are white people getting the message instead of those they are fleeing?

Glitter + Bling = Negroes?

I do not trust anyone with the last name of Boyd.

/nor should you

glad to see they got something right in that article though "...And Macs are more cultured than PCs."

fenrael23: That was so stupid it hurt. MySpace is losing user hand-over-fist to Facebook because the site is obnoxious as hell.

Came here to say the same. If MySpace didn't sell adspace to every spam site with shiny, sparkly flash banners, people may have wanted to stick around. Oh, and also if they had bothered to work on making things user-friendly. That helps, too.

Inciting headline... check
Lack of proper observation or study... check
Racial thread greenlit on Fark... check

Oh this is gonna be good.
/shares popcorn

embedded video
embedded music
HTML comments
MySpace sucks for these reasons alone.

Yo' Space

yeah, uh nice try but so stupid it could be patented.

I left myspace because they no longer allow people to download my music in mp3 form.

but it's way more personalized and fun than facebook.
facebook is the generic version of a social networking site
for people who just aren't that interesting or different.

Misidea: Inciting headline... check
Lack of proper observation or study... check
Racial thread greenlit on Fark... check

Oh this is gonna be good.
/shares popcorn

Ding! I thought this one would be a winner.

/subby

who cares.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby send a friend request
In the ghetto...

That was awesome.

zpb52: Is the SATIRE tag taking the holiday off?

I hope to god you're right otherwise a facepalm is in order.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby send a friend request
In the ghetto...

in the gheeeeeeetttttttoooooooo...

Seriously though? White flight? The very term is racist by itself. If someone else moved into a neighborhood and they immediately began doing dumb shiat, getting the cops called, not keeping up the house and so on, you bet your ass that the people that had been there, white, black or whatever, would either try to help the new people or look for someplace else to live. Most people like this don't want to be helped, so it's usually the latter option.

Harvard? She'll earn tenure for sure with this.

Sadly, I'm not being sarcastic.

davynelson: yeah, uh nice try but so stupid it could be patented.

I left myspace because they no longer allow people to download my music in mp3 form.

but it's way more personalized and fun than facebook.
facebook is the generic version of a social networking site
for people who just aren't that interesting or different.

unsuccessful musician is unsuccessful, nuts.

I don't understand how there is any barrier to entry for websites, which kind of negates any hope of such argument. People who could afford to leave the city did so. No one is forcing anyone to stay on a social networking site.

That was some serious weapons-grade stupid right there.

Karmadrome: glad to see they got something right in that article though "...And Macs are for fudge packing emo kids."

You got that right.

davynelson: yeah, uh nice try but so stupid it could be patented.

I left myspace because they no longer allow people to download my music in mp3 form.

but it's way more personalized and fun than facebook.
facebook is the generic version of a social networking site
for people who just aren't that interesting or different.

Go to the wayback machine and start reading mid-90's web sites. Tell me how myspace differs at all from that.

When I click on someone's profile, I don't want to have to immediately search for the pause button to turn off some dumb ass country song that that person has up, and have that search hampered by 812343 ani gifs.

davynelson: yeah, uh nice try but so stupid it could be patented.

I left myspace because they no longer allow people to download my music in mp3 form.

but it's way more personalized and fun than facebook.
facebook is the generic version of a social networking site
for people who just aren't that interesting or different.

Yeah that's it. If your page doesn't have flashing backgrounds, dancing gifs, background music playing as it loads, and who can forget 1000 *thanks for the add* pics all over it. You're just not interesting.

I'm thinking it is because MySpace is painful to use given its horrible design and the absurdly obnoxious customization users can do.

I didn't think there was anything racial about MySpace. I stopped going there because I was tired of having to delete a dozen friend invites from people advertising their site with nude pics, with every login.

Wait, wait- so is the speaker saying that it's racist to:

1) Recognize one thing to be objectively and/or subjectively superior than another
2) Act on that observation

and
3) Poor kids are too stupid to do #1 & #2?

So the fact that a typical Myspace page looks like a Geocities website circa 1997 has nothing to do with it?

and come to think of it, who really gives a sh*t about the term 'racist' any more?

It's a reckless, pathetic ad-hominem attack thrown around casually by folks who are unable to find a more solid base for their position.

Ghetto is ghetto.

I'd maybe agree with her if "white flight" was, in the past, caused by Candy and MISS DAISY and XxXx_BaYbE_bUbBlEz_XxXx coming to your door constantly and asking "LOL UR CUTE DO U WANT TO SEE MAH FREE NUDEZ?????"

Max Danger Power: I don't understand how there is any barrier to entry for websites, which kind of negates any hope of such argument. People who could afford to leave the city did so. No one is forcing anyone to stay on a social networking site.

And this.

dfenstrate: and come to think of it, who really gives a sh*t about the term 'racist' any more? It's a reckless, pathetic ad-hominem attack thrown around casually by folks who are unable to find a more solid base for their position.

That's racist!

I have a lot of black friends on facebook. And my girlfriend is on myspace.

Link is cool.

1) Obviously not everyone on Myspace is like Cheyenne Cherry.

2) Perhaps there is someone on Facebook like Cheyenne Cherry.

Which is closer to the truth? Which is more racist? Anybody?

boobsrgood: I do not trust anyone with the last name of Boyd.

/nor should you

What is it with you Farkers and your Irish-hate? If you aren't picking on the Boyds, you're picking on the Morans.

dfenstrate: and come to think of it, who really gives a sh*t about the term 'racist' any more?

It's a reckless, pathetic ad-hominem attack thrown around casually by folks who are unable to find a more solid base for their position.

I want to have your babies.

+1

Comic Book Guy: davynelson: yeah, uh nice try but so stupid it could be patented.

I left myspace because they no longer allow people to download my music in mp3 form.

but it's way more personalized and fun than facebook.
facebook is the generic version of a social networking site
for people who just aren't that interesting or different.

Go to the wayback machine and start reading mid-90's web sites. Tell me how myspace differs at all from that.

When I click on someone's profile, I don't want to have to immediately search for the pause button to turn off some dumb ass country song that that person has up, and have that search hampered by 812343 ani gifs.

THIS! THIS! THIS! Holy shiat that is some farking annoying crap right there!

/left MySpace in '07
//hasn't been happier since

Facebook is the deeeluxe apartment in the skyyyy.


\hmmmm, I have no negro friends on Facebook....

how about digital trailer park? either way...when people sent me their myspace page i knew i had to turn the speakers off.

MySpace is a terrible site and it pretty much always was.

Cormee: Yo' Space

Lawl.

Seriously, talk about trying to find something that's not really there.

I had a MySpace account back in college, but few of my friends were on it; even fewer still are. Most of us are on Facebook, though. My MySpace social network is mostly people I've known on the Intertubes, or my friends' untouched profiles from five years ago. My Facebook network is deeper...at first it was my circle of friends and people I'd met at college, now my co-workers, people I volunteered with for the NH GOP. I think maybe people gravitated more to Facebook because it had a more serious aura to it; you could be a part of a social network without feeling lame if you didn't decorate your profile with eighteen flashing GIFs and five embedded videos. Hell, the proliferation of gaudy profiles is enough to keep me from checking MySpace more than once every few months.

White flight? Attractive and successful African-American, please.

So if MySpace is "Ghetto", then does it follow that FaceBook is "Trailer Park"?

Oh, almost forgot about the eight invites a day from some bikini-clad skank who thinks I'm sexy and wants me to see her Webcam. If I wanted that, I'd go to LiveJasmin or whatever.

That's why I left a few months ago. I never used the profile I had and neither did my friends.

Apart from the goddamned surveys, no one posted anything.

headstone: So if MySpace is "Ghetto", then does it follow that FaceBook is "Trailer Park"?

I guess so

Maybe it just sucks?

Why did my band's page just disappear? fark you, myspace.

Comic Book Guy: davynelson: yeah, uh nice try but so stupid it could be patented.

I left myspace because they no longer allow people to download my music in mp3 form.

but it's way more personalized and fun than facebook.
facebook is the generic version of a social networking site
for people who just aren't that interesting or different.

Go to the wayback machine and start reading mid-90's web sites. Tell me how myspace differs at all from that.

When I click on someone's profile, I don't want to have to immediately search for the pause button to turn off some dumb ass country song that that person has up, and have that search hampered by 812343 ani gifs.

Can I get an AMEN!

This reason alone is why people have left myspace and moved to facebook. If anything myspace allows that "attention whore, look at me" part of our culture to whore it self out online, and for whatever reason that tends to be more associated with black or emo culture than other segments of society. (aka bling, bizarre piercings, etc)

//honest opinion
///not just fanning flames

Wait, I DRTFA. They're saying it's a black site now? That's not why I left. I left because the website in itself is horribly designed and my friends were inactive on it.

Just wanted to clear that up.

I'm surprised no one mentioned that in the "internets" people flock to what is popular at the time,mess it up, and move on. Just like that really popular bar that just opened. Facebook will be obsolete in a couple years as well. A new social site will pop up and the "flight" will be to there, from Facebook. Nothing is permanent in the interwebsnets.

NicoFinn: Wait, I DRTFA. They're saying it's a black site now? That's not why I left. I left because the website in itself is horribly designed and my friends were inactive on it.

If you feel you have to justify yourself, the retards win.

VoiceofGod: I'm surprised no one mentioned that in the "internets" people flock to what is popular at the time,mess it up, and move on. Just like that really popular bar that just opened. Facebook will be obsolete in a couple years as well. A new social site will pop up and the "flight" will be to there, from Facebook. Nothing is permanent in the interwebsnets.

Except Fark.

//oh and I brought an apple for Drew too.

MySpace > Facebook.

/Fark Facebook!

I never had a MySpace account. What does that make me? The geeky white kid in the suburbs?

TWO YEARS AGO:

All my net.friends: "Dude, what's your MySpace addie?"

Me: "I don't have one."

All my net.friends: "Z0MG! No wai! yo HAVE o have a MySpace page!"

Me: "I don't see it really doing anything for me."

All my net.friends: "U R a musician and a songwriter! YOU NEED a MySPace page!!1"

Me: "Nah."

NOW:

All my net.friends: "Dude, MySpace is totally useless."

Me: "Huh."

Karmadrome: glad to see they got something right in that article though "...And Macs are more cultured than PCs."

/Yep!!!!
//Fellow Mac Head

bunner: TWO YEARS AGO:

All my net.friends: "Dude, what's your MySpace addie?"

Me: "I don't have one."

All my net.friends: "Z0MG! No wai! yo HAVE o have a MySpace page!"

Me: "I don't see it really doing anything for me."

All my net.friends: "U R a musician and a songwriter! YOU NEED a MySPace page!!1"

Me: "Nah."

NOW:

All my net.friends: "Dude, MySpace is totally useless."

Me: "Huh."

Is this verbatim?

I always have my pepper spray with me when I browse Myspace.

I left myspace because it was constantly filled with bots, ads and Insane Clown Posse cover bands. Facebook has better privacy settings so only people who I actually know can be my friends. Furthermore, I can edit the page so only certain people can see certain information. Nobody made a big deal when Xanga (or whatever you were into back then) wasn't the big thing anymore. Sometimes a site just outlives it's usefulness, and it's not my responsibility to make sure everybody moves uniformly to the next big thing.

canadianloon: bunner: TWO YEARS AGO:

All my net.friends: "Dude, what's your MySpace addie?"

Me: "I don't have one."

All my net.friends: "Z0MG! No wai! yo HAVE o have a MySpace page!"

Me: "I don't see it really doing anything for me."

All my net.friends: "U R a musician and a songwriter! YOU NEED a MySPace page!!1"

Me: "Nah."

NOW:

All my net.friends: "Dude, MySpace is totally useless."

Me: "Huh."

Is this verbatim?

Close, save for the typos.

Why?

Ahhh the great social divide is still alive and kicking. Well! I think I'm now leaning towards ignorant people being the greatest form of entertainment.

/Butter popcorn & Pepsi please!

tetsoushima: Insane Clown Posse cover bands

that may be the lamest thing on god's green earth.

On the case.

Speakin' of MySpace anybody heard from JBonez lately??

So the migration from myspace to facebook is due to racism, what was the migration from friendster caused by, Zionism?

"There's a cultural wall between users. If there's no way for people to communicate across the divide, you can never expect them to do so."

I'm not interesting in communicating with anyone dumb enough to use MySpace.

FTFA:
"Any high school student who has a Facebook page will tell you MySpace users are more likely to be barely educated and obnoxious... like Peet's is more cultured than Starbucks and jazz is more cultured than bubblegum pop. And Macs are more cultured than PCs."
and:
"If you're on MySpace now, you're a [expletive] cretin. And you're not only a [expletive] cretin, but you're poor. Nobody who has beyond an 8th grade level of education is on MySpace. It is for backwards people."

Evidence:
Some shiatty Bar (pops)

/ I wouldn't click it either
// Myspace is dirty and unsafe
/// like the ghetto
//// You should see the place that Myspace page advertises for
// way dirtier than Myspace

GoldSpider: NicoFinn: Wait, I DRTFA. They're saying it's a black site now? That's not why I left. I left because the website in itself is horribly designed and my friends were inactive on it.

If you feel you have to justify yourself, the retards win.

I think justification is a valid way of arguing a point, however if the point is beating retards, the whole thing is moot. Retards ALWAYS win, but as the old saying goes, they are still retarded.

GoldSpider: That was some serious weapons-grade stupid right there.

This made me chuckle.

MySpace blows chunks for all the reasons previously noted: obnoxious ads, garish pages, not user-friendly. I like Facebook much better. It's a cleaner design and easier to use.

I created a dummy MySpace account about three years ago with a throwaway email account, I never used the email address again, and I never posted a single thing on my page. Not long ago I found my login info and went back to check my account. I had somewhere around 300 friend requests from girls who thought I was hot and wanted to hook up.

Hmm. I guess I really *do* hate black people!

McStubbins: \hmmmm, I have no negro friends on Facebook....

I have one, and she's actually Cape Verdean.

OscarTamerz: So the migration from myspace to facebook is due to racism, what was the migration from friendster caused by, Zionism?

I think there's a joke in there about Tatsuma starting a blog but I'm too lazy to reach for it.

bunner: TWO YEARS AGO:

All my net.friends: "Dude, what's your MySpace addie?"

Me: "I don't have one."

All my net.friends: "Z0MG! No wai! yo HAVE o have a MySpace page!"

Me: "I don't see it really doing anything for me."

All my net.friends: "U R a musician and a songwriter! YOU NEED a MySPace page!!1"

Me: "Nah."

NOW:

All my net.friends: "Dude, MySpace is totally useless."

Me: "Huh."
.
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But, but, but, DUDE! All the exposure your missing.....

giggle, snort


/social networking
//should preferably involve people
///in the same room
//and food
/possibly, booze

jsteiner78: IT IS SATIRE

I can't stand it when the satire tag gets forgotten or eschewed for the sake of trolling the main page.

Note to most wannabe musicians:

No one wants to hear your version of "Pride 'n Joy" on Myspace, Stevie Ray Yawn!

headstone: /social networking
//should preferably involve people
///in the same room
//and food
/possibly, booze

/This.
//Empirically

Marla Singer's Laundry: Note to most wannabe musicians:

No one wants to hear your version of "Pride 'n Joy" on Myspace, Stevie Ray Yawn!

Well, no. They don't.

I worked with Stevie for a hot minute in 83, though and there weren't nothing boring about that ole boy.

OscarTamerz: So the migration from myspace to facebook is due to racism, what was the migration from friendster caused by, Zionism?
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I always thought the name "Friendster" made it sound like a creepy social site for pedos...

jso2897: boobsrgood: I do not trust anyone with the last name of Boyd.

/nor should you

What is it with you Farkers and your Irish-hate? If you aren't picking on the Boyds, you're picking on the Morans.

What Boyds may look like:


/hot like mostaccioli

bunner: headstone: /social networking
//should preferably involve people
///in the same room
//and food
/possibly, booze

/This.
//Empirically
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We're old.
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/sigh

then I guess we can blame OK Cupid on teh J0os and go get a nice cold soda.

Remember, Myspace introduced the world to this:

NicoFinn: Wait, I DRTFA. They're saying it's a black site now? That's not why I left. I left because the website in itself is horribly designed and my friends were inactive on it.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Exactly! I did NOT leave Myspace because of the blacks, and I resent everyone saying I did!

It was the Mexicans.

And Tom is my only friend.

Myspace's only purpose in life will be to remind us of what Geocities looked like after it's shut down by Yahoo.

Gunderson: Remember, Myspace introduced the world to this:

tila-tequila.jpg
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MySpace invented fake tits?
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UNC_Samurai: Myspace's only purpose in life will be to remind us of what Geocities looked like after it's shut down by Yahoo.

Oh my... does anybody remember.. what was that site..?

Something city or town or whatever and the GUI was like all these windows and you clicked on one and it took you to your "neighbourhood" where your easy to generate page was?

There was a neighbourhood for everything. Fanboys, schoolgirls, TeeVee show addicts. The one for musicians was "Tin Pan Alley".

Wait - you don't LIKE my jet-black background with purple text over a scrolling image of mating unicorns while Alice in Chains plays at +11 during the onLoad?

Goddamn racist bastards!

Um what??? I went on MySpace because everyone I knew was using MySpace instead of FaceBook. Then I went on FaceBook because everyone I knew was using FaceBook instead of MySpace. I wasn't running away from people of color, just following the frikkin Web 2.0 social networking herd.

\I can't do anything right, can I????

to quote one of my friends:

"Facebook is for adults."

DarthBrooks: Wait - you don't LIKE my jet-black background with purple text over a scrolling image of mating unicorns while Alice in Chains plays at +11 during the onLoad?

Goddamn racist bastards!

What we all need to do is look at the program files of all of our friends and their kid's computers.

Look for ANYTHING that looks like an audio compression app.

Delete it.

Vtimlin: who cares.

Came for this. Rarely has so much been said with so little...

davynelson:
but it's way more personalized and fun than facebook.
facebook is the generic version of a social networking site
for people who just aren't that interesting or different.

If you define yourself by your social networking page, you just might be a Boring Person. Good luck with that.

PumpUpDaFark: Ah, yes, where a girl can post a photo of herself with a turd in the toilet in the background.

bunner: DarthBrooks: Wait - you don't LIKE my jet-black background with purple text over a scrolling image of mating unicorns while Alice in Chains plays at +11 during the onLoad?

Goddamn racist bastards!

What we all need to do is look at the program files of all of our friends and their kid's computers.

Look for ANYTHING that looks like an audio compression app.

Delete it.
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What? You don't like to giving up the frequency response and the dynamic range? Just because it changes music into barely recognizable noise is no reason to get all uppity.
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/You ain't moving my speakers
//without a damn good handtruck

Gunderson: Remember, Myspace introduced the world to this:

I'd hit that.....don't care if she's invested with STD's not yet classified by the CDC.

Kalashinator: jso2897: boobsrgood: I do not trust anyone with the last name of Boyd.

/nor should you

What is it with you Farkers and your Irish-hate? If you aren't picking on the Boyds, you're picking on the Morans.

What Boyds may look like:


/hot like mostaccioli

+1 to you sir

/wants to stand on top of Scorcese's head.

DarthBrooks 2009-07-03 09:37:21 AM
Wait - you don't LIKE my jet-black background with purple text over a scrolling image of mating unicorns while Alice in Chains plays at +11 during the onLoad?

Nail? Hammer.
Hammer? Nail.

bunner: UNC_Samurai: Myspace's only purpose in life will be to remind us of what Geocities looked like after it's shut down by Yahoo.

Oh my... does anybody remember.. what was that site..?

Something city or town or whatever and the GUI was like all these windows and you clicked on one and it took you to your "neighbourhood" where your easy to generate page was?

There was a neighbourhood for everything. Fanboys, schoolgirls, TeeVee show addicts. The one for musicians was "Tin Pan Alley".

FortuneCity?

pwn3d781: FortuneCity?

HA!

Thank you. : )

bunner: tetsoushima: Insane Clown Posse cover bands

that may be the lamest thing on god's green earth.

You would think, but you would be wrong.

Wasn't Myspace always considered juvenile and immature? I remember getting on there about 3-4 years ago, when Myspace was all the rage amongst high schoolers, and was becoming famous for creepy pedophiles picking up high school girls. I deleted my account several days later.

And I think we all remember what happened to Friendster. Speaking of immature, despite Facebook's supposed maturity, why do I keep getting silly app-generated requests for baby farm animals, virtual drinks and the like?

So I have the choice between a site where I can connect with friends in an easy manner, never have any screwups, annoying ads, password hacks, phishing scams, annoying music playing that I cant turn off, goofy flashing shiat I have no control over, text I cant read on a background I cant see.....or a site where when I go to it it instantly shows me what my friends are doing, whats going on with them, with black text on a plain white background and rarely ever any f-up's?

Yeah, I'll definitely take the latter please.

Oh wait, I did. I've been Myspace free for 3 years now.

So the article is saying that:

White people are well educated and like clean, organized layouts that are arranged in a manner such that you can actually read the profiles...

Black people are solely interested in embedded music, videos, and gifs, e-bling that screams for attention and ultimately makes the page slow, obnoxious, and unworkable.

Yep, that sounds like a reflection of society at large.

(Trolling, am I doing it right?)

Any socioeconomic disparity is probably related to the fact that Facebook began as a tool for people who are in college. It continues to be anchored by this group. People with post-high school education are less likely to be poor and are more likely to climb the socioeconomic ladder a bit.

Myspace is not the ghetto of the internet, it's the digital herpes and crabs and HIV and Hep C infested hooker of the internet.

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Just had a jehovah's witness knock on my door, about a minute and a half ago. Before I closed the door on them, I asked if she had a MySpace or FaceBook page. She said, "FaceBook."
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/snort

bunner: Something city or town or whatever and the GUI was like all these windows and you clicked on one and it took you to your "neighbourhood" where your easy to generate page was?

GeoCities?

bunner: pwn3d781: FortuneCity?

HA!

Thank you. : )

For some reason, that was the one free Web host that had no appeal to me, and I don't remember why. Maybe because Tripod and XOOM and WebJump were good enough that I could get by with their hosting plans.

Ah, the olden days of the Intertubes, when good things were free and turning a profit was overrated.

Gunderson: Remember, Myspace introduced the world to this:

For that, its makers shall burn in hell. Which is now apparently Myspace.

Yes, digital "white flight" is some kind of crack across the face of society.

When will Facebook end its vicious "no coloreds" policy?

PJ_the_Barbarian: Yes, digital "white flight" is some kind of crack across the face of society.

When will Facebook end its vicious "no coloreds" policy?

If you log in really late, you can use the water fountain and nobody yells at you.

headstone: Gunderson: Remember, Myspace introduced the world to this:

tila-tequila.jpg
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MySpace invented fake tits?
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And poorly masked pock-marked crater face. Two for one!

And his motherboard cries...

ObscureNameHere: headstone: Gunderson: Remember, Myspace introduced the world to this:

tila-tequila.jpg
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MySpace invented fake tits?
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And poorly masked pock-marked crater face. Two for one!
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And hair so stiff, you can hear it. Trifecta...
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Myspace has been a digital ghetto for the last couple of years. But this whole "if you migrated to Facebook you are white, if you stayed with Myspace you are black or brown" stuff is B.S. - Myspace is 99% spammers.
Spammers come in all crayola shades.

bigpeeler: Here's proof that the author (Danah Boyd) isn't prejudiced. She has a black friend.

She's laid more carpet than Sears

headstone: So if MySpace is "Ghetto", then does it follow that FaceBook is "Trailer Park"?

Sounds about right. People living actual interesting lives don't usually tweet, blog, or put a webpage up about them.

bigpeeler: Here's proof that the author (Danah Boyd) isn't prejudiced. She has a black friend.

She looks like an annoying hipster coont.

You know, if you're gonna whore attention, you can probably distract people, briefly, from your endless sense of self-importance by writing about a site that people use to whore attention.

Bacontastesgood: headstone: So if MySpace is "Ghetto", then does it follow that FaceBook is "Trailer Park"?

Sounds about right. People living actual interesting lives don't usually tweet, blog, or put a webpage up about them.

Disagree (you're welcome) (new window)

Biness: Disagree (you're welcome) (new window)

God shall smite thee for that.

I think the author is right- did you even notice the way that Facebook always wears polo shirts and MySpace has those baggy pants with the underwear showing?

//Ugh- race and class in the US are frequently overlapping, but not coterminous...//

I think the shift from myspace to facebook is also partly an age thing. All the bells and whistles of my space tend to satisfy junior high appetites. As people on myspace get older (and as older people realize they should join a networking site and look for a place to go), they want something with more content and fewer glittery butterflies. Plus the screeching emo music that plays every time you open up those kids' pages makes me want to gouge my eardrums out with a fondue fork.

headstone: Oscar

I always thought the name "Friendster" made it sound like a creepy social site for pedos...

The same thing has been said much more often about myspace



Hotter than even her

Biness: Bacontastesgood: headstone: So if MySpace is "Ghetto", then does it follow that FaceBook is "Trailer Park"?

Sounds about right. People living actual interesting lives don't usually tweet, blog, or put a webpage up about them.

Disagree (you're welcome) (new window)
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After pointing at the link to check the address, I was expecting a new bizarre flavor of squirrel porn. And I guess, in a manner of speaking, it was...

Myspace: irrelevant.
facebook: irrelevant.
Twitter: irrelevant. (BAWWWW some more, asswipes. Truth hurts.)

If the internet is your single, solitary tool for communication, you will not get anywhere in life. Period.

kirishima: BAWWWW

you sound edgy

bunner: You know, if you're gonna whore attention, you can probably distract people, briefly, from your endless sense of self-importance by writing about a site that people use to whore attention.
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That made my head hurt, a little...
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/An attention whore
//attention-whoring
//by writing about
/attention whores

Bad lyrics ftw...

1) work at Harvard
2) Call anything racist
3) Profit!

Karmadrome: glad to see they got something right in that article though "...And Macs are more cultured than PCs."

THIS

If this is satire then how do all of you explain the presence of the latino myspace?

Wow the author of that one is an asshat. Myspace has all the cutting edge web design of 1996. Same friggin' functionality for the most part, myspace is just annoying so most people don't use it.

These people who constantly play the race card are the ones who keep it in play. They make that kinda crap worse by shoving it down people's throats.

KidKorporate: If this is satire then how do all of you explain the presence of the latino myspace?
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I dunno. The language, maybe?
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andrewhy: Wasn't Myspace always considered juvenile and immature? I remember getting on there about 3-4 years ago, when Myspace was all the rage amongst high schoolers, and was becoming famous for creepy pedophiles picking up high school girls. I deleted my account several days later.

And I think we all remember what happened to Friendster. Speaking of immature, despite Facebook's supposed maturity, why do I keep getting silly app-generated requests for baby farm animals, virtual drinks and the like?

There's a block button. Apply liberally.

Biness: Bacontastesgood: headstone: So if MySpace is "Ghetto", then does it follow that FaceBook is "Trailer Park"?

Sounds about right. People living actual interesting lives don't usually tweet, blog, or put a webpage up about them.

Disagree (you're welcome) (new window)

I love this:

Winterstar: Biness: Bacontastesgood: headstone: So if MySpace is "Ghetto", then does it follow that FaceBook is "Trailer Park"?

Sounds about right. People living actual interesting lives don't usually tweet, blog, or put a webpage up about them.

Disagree (you're welcome) (new window)

I love this:

Yea, that Squirrel News Network sure is up to date

Man, I don't know what yall be talkin about

Danah Boyd gave this talk at the Personal Democracy Forum in NYC last month.

Full text, for anyone who cares to read it, is available here:

http://www.danah.org/papers/talks/PDF2009.html

I left myspace because the damn thing would make me type in my unwieldy password that they gave me every time I tried to log in. My computer could remember every other password out there that I have, but not that one? I got tired of looking it up and went to facebook, which is something my friends were asking me to do anyway.

A new fangled white flight? Are only white people doing this or something?

Where does Second Life fit into all of this?

A relation was telling me how great it is and how she spends every day after work on it. It sounded really creepy and more than a little pathetic.

felixecho: I left myspace because the damn thing would make me type in my unwieldy password that they gave me every time I tried to log in

Um...you never changed the password? Never personalized it? Seriously? And you're blaming THAT on MySpace?!?

What do you mean 'now'?

felixecho: I left myspace because the damn thing would make me type in my unwieldy password that they gave me every time I tried to log in. My computer could remember every other password out there that I have, but not that one? I got tired of looking it up and went to facebook, which is something my friends were asking me to do anyway.

A new fangled white flight? Are only white people doing this or something?

Yep. This is the facebook policy:


Does this mean facebook is going to have its own Rosa Parks?

Biness: felixecho: I left myspace because the damn thing would make me type in my unwieldy password that they gave me every time I tried to log in. My computer could remember every other password out there that I have, but not that one? I got tired of looking it up and went to facebook, which is something my friends were asking me to do anyway.

A new fangled white flight? Are only white people doing this or something?

Yep. This is the facebook policy:


Does this mean facebook is going to have its own Rosa Parks?

Wow, so you were in Georgetown, Ontario, Canada yesterday?

For me, I mainly got sick of getting ear-raped whenever I visited the MySpace pages of other people. No, I don't want to hear your tastes in shiatty music at full volume whenever I try to view your profile.

Top that off with unreadable page designs that makes Geocities look tame, and you start to see why I haven't logged in there in a while.

And don't get me started on the third circle of hell that is the MySpace forums......

it is all Tom's fault.

myspace is proof that you have to dial back on the user creativity to protect your brand. along with that, find other ways to make money than with the same old banner ads. I have rarely gone onto myspace in the last 12 months because everyone I know has switched to facebook; that and at least one of my pcs got a virus from a myspace page.

Biness: Does this mean facebook is going to have its own Rosa Parks?

Get to the back of the 64-Bit PCI Bus!

There's nothing stopping anyone from opening up a facebook account. If they stay on myspace and don't go to facebook the only thing stopping them is their lazy non-white asses.. (I keed)

Kraftyman:Danah Boyd gave this talk at the Personal Democracy Forum in NYC last month.
Full text, (pops) for anyone who cares to read it...

sample:
"The fact that digital migration is revealing the same social patterns as urban white flight should send warning signals to everyone out there. And if we think back to the language used by teens who use Facebook when talking about MySpace, we should be truly alarmed. Those who are from privileged backgrounds tend to be far more condescending towards those who are not than vice versa. Many of us in this room come from privileged worlds where we want to "help" those who are not well-off. Here is where a privilege-check is necessary. How often do our language and mannerisms reflect a problematic level of condescension? Perhaps we should look at our teens. They are certainly speaking in a manner that reveals distrust and condescension."

in other words, blah blah blah blah blah.

although i hope her next "study" will be on the subject of stupid comments on youtube.

MySpace is ghetto because that's where the hos are.

/duh

It's not white flight. It's anyone-any-sense-of-decent-web-design flight. At least on Facebook I can look at someone's profile without risking a seizure.

\Left Myspace because of the glitter gifs and moving backgrounds
\\Also because they use ColdFusion (eww!)

I am too lazy to look up how to change my password. The point is, I want my computer to remember it. It wouldn't populate.

It goes back to the user-friendly issue.

Misidea: Inciting headline... check
Lack of proper observation or study... check
Racial thread greenlit on Fark... check

Oh this is gonna be good.
/shares popcorn

No, cause I think everyone pretty much picked up on the fact its some granola eating, sandal wearing, unkempt mess of a political correct pussy writing that drivel.

Still filled with rage that switching sites is racist though, facebook is just too easy to use over my space.

"now"?

Was the word "always" not available?

felixecho: I am too lazy to look up how to change my password. The point is, I want my computer to remember it. It wouldn't populate.

It goes back to the user-friendly issue.

To be fair, ColdFusion probably doesn't support cookies or something. Or Tom couldn't figure it out. It is a very complex language.

I prefer to not open web pages that induce seizures.


/Waits for the flashing .gif

"White flight" didn't kill Myspace. "Hipster flight" did. Hipsters made Myspace blow up in the first place. They flocked there because the site had obscure bands to listen to and the site itself was little known. (Like a social network version of Pitchfork.) From there, every hipster's mother, sibling, cousin, dog, whatever, signed on to see what the deal the hipsters were crowing about. And from there, those people's friends and whatnot joined as well. That's when the hipsters fled because Myspace had become too popular and wasn't "cool" anymore. (Hipsters don't say "awesome" unless they are being ironic.)

They've moved onto Facebook but that has been getting stale lately. And now they are on Twitter but that too has been becoming lame until the Iranian elections happened and they were able to be a part of the protesting force. (Even if it was from their over priced loft in Williamsburg that mommy and daddy pay rent for. Hipster love to "fight the power" more than anything else.) So, Twitter is back to being cool for the time being.

MySpace made some major mistakes.

The first one is allowing extensive customization of pages with little attention to functionality, lag, interoperability and load times. It comes down to simply one fact; just because you can does not mean that you should.

Second...they let themselves get overrun by second-rate businesses and scams that did more to detract from the user experience. What's worse was that their security was so dodgy that the experience went from annoying banners to user accounts backed by 'bots that users were forced to deal with.

It's funny because at one time MySpace was king of the heap. They owned social networking from stem to stern and managed to let it slip away forever for the sake of bad security practices and making a quick buck.

I think a week into having my FaceBook account I realized that MySpace was going to be abandoned pretty quickly. I got to be right about that. However the brand name is still pretty strong; if they could only police themselves and position themselves as an alternative that's at least equal to FaceBook they might have a chance. The first step would likely be putting a 30 day expiration on all accounts, locking down customization and putting in place some real security provisions.

felixecho: I am too lazy to look up how to change my password. The point is, I want my computer to remember it. It wouldn't populate.

It goes back to the user-friendly issue.

You're too lazy to change it and your COMPUTER had a problem with remembering the password...and it's the website's fault?!?

Brilliant! Did you figure that out in a blamestorming session?

mekki: "White flight" didn't kill Myspace. "Hipster flight" did. Hipsters made Myspace blow up in the first place. They flocked there because the site had obscure bands to listen to and the site itself was little known. (Like a social network version of Pitchfork.) From there, every hipster's mother, sibling, cousin, dog, whatever, signed on to see what the deal the hipsters were crowing about. And from there, those people's friends and whatnot joined as well. That's when the hipsters fled because Myspace had become too popular and wasn't "cool" anymore. (Hipsters don't say "awesome" unless they are being ironic.)

They've moved onto Facebook but that has been getting stale lately. And now they are on Twitter but that too has been becoming lame until the Iranian elections happened and they were able to be a part of the protesting force. (Even if it was from their over priced loft in Williamsburg that mommy and daddy pay rent for. Hipster love to "fight the power" more than anything else.) So, Twitter is back to being cool for the time being.

I've never seen the word "hipster" used so many times in one post. Did a hipster kill your brother or something?

I totally have a black friend on facebook. Not in real life, though. It's best not to get too close to them physically.

Winterstar: You're too lazy to change it and your COMPUTER had a problem with remembering the password...and it's the website's fault?!?

The website has to capability to remember you between sessions, despite it being trivially easy to do so.

The Icelander: Winterstar: You're too lazy to change it and your COMPUTER had a problem with remembering the password...and it's the website's fault?!?

The website has to capability to remember you between sessions, despite it being trivially easy to do so.

So does your web browser.

At this point, MySpace and Facebook are so similar it really doesn't matter anymore. The only thing FB is missing is the seizure backgrounds and music, it's got all the other tacky shiat, and MySpace has done a good job of copping some FB features (embedded chat, first and last names, shiatty applications).

lolz at the people who believe any of the following

-Social Networking Sites are for people with no lives
-Internet communication will never overtake other forms

If the internet isn't your thing I'm cool with that but don't for a second think you are some how above everyone else because you choose not to frequent various areas of the internet. Your the new version of people who don't own TV's gratz

oops, you're! you're!... oh sigh...

"And Macs are more cultured than PCs"

If by culture, you mean simple and made for idiots, then yes.
When facedwith a PC, most of the Mac users I know turn into this:

I'm just waiting for the z-axis to come along so I can really customize. So bored of the flat internets

1. Facebook has potential, but I get annoyed by people sending zombies at me and buying me "drinks" digitally. You wanna buy me a drink, show up at my house with a case of beer, otherwise, shut the fark up.

2. Myspace is OK for promotion if you do music, but even that is getting so saturated with crap that it's almost not worth it any more. Every day I get a dozen add requests from "producers" and "rappers" telling me to "peep their tracks." No thanks. Don't have the time or the stomach for it any more.

3. Twitter is fun if you're bored out of your farking mind and want something amusing to kill a few minutes. Oh, that and the fact that I won a free pair of custom VANS shoes for following a VANS rep at Coachella on Twitter. I follow a few musicians, a few athletes, and a few personal friends, and that's about it.

averagejoe42: "And Macs are more cultured than PCs"

If by culture, you mean simple and made for idiots, then yes.
When facedwith a PC, most of the Mac users I know turn into this:

Yes, OS X is so simple that my friends act like the first cave men to fire when confronted with the dock and want thier familiar start menu back. Because without the start menu, they are incapable of finding any programs.

"The fact that digital migration is revealing the same social patterns as urban white flight should send warning signals to all of us. It should scare the hell out of us."

Really? Freedom of choice should "scare the hell out of us"?

/here's to hoping we can divide this country in two someday with the over-regulating PC crowd on one side, and classical Americans on the other.

soj4life 2009-07-03 11:15:02 AM
it is all Tom's fault.

myspace is proof that you have to dial back on the user creativity to protect your brand. along with that, find other ways to make money than with the same old banner ads. I have rarely gone onto myspace in the last 12 months because everyone I know has switched to facebook; that and at least one of my pcs got a virus from a myspace page.""


//Yeah, but if you wanna party, the ghetto is where its at,
just bring you a pistol, condoms & drugs.


when you no longer enjoy cruisin the ghetto, you might be getting old

I believe the difference has more to with age than anything. I believe that most people over high school age are more apt to find the cluttered up garbage that is a Myspace page to be incredibly annoying. I'm looking at you loudass mp3s. It reminds me of the early days when websites were not much more than a jumble of animated GIFs, blue links and midi sounds.

At least facebook has a clean presentation. I have a facebook page and thought it was cool to find old friends from high school. Most of my friends have facebook, including my "brown" ones. One thing that is similar with most of us is that we are in our early 30's and educated. One way I look at it the is parents have facebook, their teenage kids have Myspace.

averagejoe42: When facedwith a PC Mac, most of the Mac PC users I know turn into this:

This is also true.

fenrael23: That was so stupid it hurt. MySpace is losing user hand-over-fist to Facebook because the site is obnoxious as hell.

Not for long. Facebook seems to be determined to get rid of all the nice white space and clean design on the page and fark it up with shiat on a page like Myspace and Xanga.

This new effort to make it the new twitter is farking garbage.

The day I go to someone's page and have to hear any music auto streamed is the day I cancel my account.

bunner: TWO YEARS AGO:

All my net.friends: "Dude, what's your MySpace addie?"

Me: "I don't have one."

All my net.friends: "Z0MG! No wai! yo HAVE o have a MySpace page!"

Me: "I don't see it really doing anything for me."

All my net.friends: "U R a musician and a songwriter! YOU NEED a MySPace page!!1"

Me: "Nah."

NOW:

All my net.friends: "Dude, MySpace is totally useless."

Me: "Huh."

Myspace is a wasteland, but why would you turn down what is basically a fee billboard, even in a wasteland?

Igor Jakovsky: "....One way I look at it the is parents have facebook, their teenage kids have Myspace."



//aaand who would you rather hang with and chase their tail?
it takes -Skilz- to hunt around myspace, hungry? catch and kill what you eat.

at facebook, they chew your food and digest it before serving


myspace makes more sense if you posses at least 3 of the following attributes:

1] likes music a lot
2] familiar with art and stage
3] high hormone levels
4] born salesman
5] indie musician
6] just wanna have fun
7] Band that has more friends than you can count

MySpace LAWL

If you live in a ghetto, odds are good that you're not on myspace.

JWideman: If you live in a ghetto, odds are good that you're not on myspace.

// we rural touts use MySpace to telecommute to the ghetto

Choosing between Facebook and Myspace forces one to answer a fundamental useability question:
Do I wish to connect to friends, family, co workers etc?

or

Do I wish to show in digital form what a unique snowflake I am?


How that question is answered will determine which site one uses.

You can have fun with myspace. Just make your profile so annoying and broken that it crashes browsers.

/yes I have a band on there, yes it sucks, yes I am working on a proper site for it...

So, myspace is full of grape flavour and menthol?

Myspace is ghetto, yo. As a pimp, me and the biatches swears by it.

I don't do the "social" thing on MySpace- I use it to check out band demos while I wait for their press kits to arrive. Looking at their "Friends" and "Comments" sections is a good way to get an idea of what crowd will show up for their show if booked:
I had an out of town "jazz/funk" band want to book a night but after I checked out their MySpace page I discovered they were a bunch of wigger rappers and the comments all seemed to be about the fights that happened at other venues when they performed.

MySpace is great for a band that is just starting up and doesn't have money for a domain or to have somebody create/maintain a quality site for them. Yes, there are some truly ugly MySpace pages but since the bands generally design their own MySpace pages and maintain it themselves you can get a pretty good insight as to their professionalism and character.

Karmadrome: glad to see they got something right in that article though "...And Macs are more cultured than PCs."

Macs are more cultured than PCs in the same way a sterling silver butter knife is more cultured than an 8" chef's knife. The silver butter knife is pretty and easy to use, but expensive and incompatible with many cutting tasks. If you know what you're doing, the chef's knife is far more useful and usually less expensive.

tripperday: Macs are more cultured than PCs in the same way a sterling silver butter knife is more cultured than an 8" chef's knife. The silver butter knife is pretty and easy to use, but expensive and incompatible with many cutting tasks. If you know what you're doing, the chef's knife is far more useful and usually less expensive.

(Predictably) I disagree. I can do just about as much with my Mac as someone of similar skill can do with their PC. In reality, just about the only thing I can't do is run specific pieces of software, though there will usually be a Mac alternative.

To use your knife analogy, Macs are like Swiss Army Knives, and PCs are like Leatherman tools. Incompatible, but capable of doing largely the same tasks.

tripperday: Myspace is a wasteland, but why would you turn down what is basically a fRee billboard, even in a wasteland?

What's the point?

No label is actually gonna ink somebody off of their myspace hits, it's just a pack of attention whoring kids, mostly, there's no way to actually make it DO anything other than sit there and beg for friends and hits.

It's pathetic.

I can make more people remember my songs and maybe want to buy my record in one hour on stage than in a month of whoring for play counts on some jive assed website where I might not even own my own songs after I upload them.

Live music really *does* sound better.

kirishima: Myspace: irrelevant.
facebook: irrelevant.
Twitter: irrelevant. (BAWWWW some more, asswipes. Truth hurts.)

If the internet is your single, solitary tool for communication, you will not get anywhere in life. Period.

Does that mean the spoken word is irrelevant because it's not an acceptable "single, solitary tool for communication"? Those sites aren't email or instant messaging, but it's absurd to ignore the fact that these are certainly relevant means of communication. (Except for Twitter, which would have been a great idea a few years ago, but is going to die as soon as most people can update their Facebook page directly from their smartphones, which will be very soon.)

Gunderson: Remember, Myspace introduced the world to this:

No....Johndx introduced me to her.

MySpace, Facebook

Mods, rockers

meh

Mouser: MySpace, Facebook

Mods, rockers

meh

I'm a mocker.

I went to Facebook because I run from stupid.

bunner: Mouser: MySpace, Facebook

Mods, rockers

meh

I'm a mocker.

:golf clap::

another fave:

Tell me, how did you find America?
Turn left at Greenland.

I have accounts at both places, but only use Myspace to communicate with two people. It does make me kind of sad. Facebook is so shiny and busy it gives me a headache, though. Being a pretentious jerk, I prefer Goodreads for my social networking.

bunner: tripperday: Myspace is a wasteland, but why would you turn down what is basically a fRee billboard, even in a wasteland?

What's the point?

No label is actually gonna ink somebody off of their myspace hits, it's just a pack of attention whoring kids, mostly, there's no way to actually make it DO anything other than sit there and beg for friends and hits.

It's pathetic.

I can make more people remember my songs and maybe want to buy my record in one hour on stage than in a month of whoring for play counts on some jive assed website where I might not even own my own songs after I upload them.

Live music really *does* sound better.

It can be difficult to find out anything about local bands. I once sat down in front of MySpace and looked up the bands that were playing Friday night and went to the one that seemed most interesting. I didn't waste my time with bands that had too much integrity to upload a few mp3s and a schedule to MySpace.

tripperday: I didn't waste my time with bands that had too much integrity to upload a few mp3s and a schedule to MySpace.

It's not a matter of integrity.

How did you search out only local, new bands playing in your area? Garageband.com does that, too.

It's about the music. Period. And if I thought that MySpace was an actual effective tool to get what I do as a recording artist or live performer across, I'd use it.

There are always going to be certain groups of people who figure out the zeitgeist behind everyone else.

And if they all dress like each other, act the same, and like the same crap...
then they're easier to identify as slow.

Facebook evolved into application shiat storm. Myspace has actually improved a lot compared to a few years ago.

DJMikeWazowski: Wow the author of that one is an asshat. Myspace has all the cutting edge web design of 1996. Same friggin' functionality for the most part, myspace is just annoying so most people don't use it.

These people who constantly play the race card are the ones who keep it in play. They make that kinda crap worse by shoving it down people's throats.

Mmmm fail.

Yogurt is more cultured than cottage cheese

bunner tripperday: I didn't waste my time with bands that had too much integrity to upload a few mp3s and a schedule to MySpace.

It's not a matter of integrity.

How did you search out only local, new bands playing in your area? Garageband.com does that, too.

It's about the music. Period. And if I thought that MySpace was an actual effective tool to get what I do as a recording artist or live performer across, I'd use it.

Why are you such a self-important douche in almost every thread?