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(Rolling Stone) Obvious Goldman Sachs has engineered every major market manipulation since the Great Depression . "The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity."   (rollingstone.com) divider line 135
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Last One Left [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 04:51:12 AM  
This isn't the full article that appeared in print. The full version reads better, but is also more hyperbolic. Zero Hedge has it in PDF form.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 06:19:36 AM  
absolutely amazing.

 
snuffy [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 09:21:38 AM  
this piece is the most accurate explanation of how you just got farked and still are being farked by wall street.

where is your 401k now?

 
snuffy [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 09:26:45 AM  
thanks for the green light on this, admins.

now all that is needed for people to actually read it and then act on it.

we deserve what we get.

 
MorrisBird [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 09:27:43 AM  
I read the full article. Now, I'm depressed. Yet another depression started. So they've got that going for them, which is nice.

 
Bored Horde 2009-07-03 09:40:26 AM  
Rolling Stone delivers again.

 
Linux_Yes [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:02:28 AM  
this Country and probably most of the World is run by the International Banking Industry. nobody tells them what's what. at least until the next Revolutionary war anyway......

even the Federal Government does what its told.

 
Linux_Yes [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:05:46 AM  
snuffy: this piece is the most accurate explanation of how you just got farked and still are being farked by wall street.

where is your 401k now?


now we all know why the Owners of this Country love Freedom so much: the Freedom to do as they damn well please, at least until the War anyway.....

 
dragonaut 2009-07-03 10:10:16 AM  
I can't get to the article, can someone summarize with a few specifics so I know it isn't just paranoid finger pointing?

 
Cromar 2009-07-03 10:16:07 AM  
Should I even waste my time reading this? The very premise is retarded.

 
Apik0r0s 2009-07-03 10:16:26 AM  
Anti-Semites!

 
bluefelix 2009-07-03 10:17:41 AM  
I don't know if I want to RTFA... it sounds like my nephew and his weird ass conspiracy theories. I'd probably want my 10 minutes back.

 
Antidamascus 2009-07-03 10:18:03 AM  
Repeat?

 
spill_thrill 2009-07-03 10:18:40 AM  
Don't touch the trim!

 
Last One Left [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:19:11 AM  
eqtworld: If GS was the puppet master of the US economy for the last hundred years, their market cap would not be 55billion less than Google and 50 billion less than Apple (young companies).

It, quite honestly, is less about Goldman Sachs engineering every meltdown than it is a history of their role in every meltdown. But it's obvious they would have some part to play in everything that went on in the last century, given their importance in finance and politics.

Taibbi can be a bit much on the histrionics, and he does omit an awful lot of history, but it is Rolling Stone; it's about entertainment. It's no A Monetary History of the United States.

 
ExperianScaresCthulhu 2009-07-03 10:23:29 AM  
can't Goldman Sachs really just be short hand for 'da joooooooooooooooooozzzz'? is it ok to say 'it' as long as it's a company name and not the actual ethnic group?

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:24:20 AM  
Cromar: Should I even waste my time reading this? The very premise is retarded.

It's like a Dan Brown novel - fun read, neat theory, but brain candy.

 
Shadowknight [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:24:30 AM  
Those things aren't screwing around, either.

img35.imageshack.us

 
ExperianScaresCthulhu 2009-07-03 10:26:19 AM  
Apik0r0s: Anti-Semites!

snuffy: this piece is the most accurate explanation of how you just got farked and still are being farked by wall street.

where is your 401k now?


Linux_Yes: this Country and probably most of the World is run by the International Banking Industry. nobody tells them what's what. at least until the next Revolutionary war anyway......

even the Federal Government does what its told.




so it is ok?

 
Bf+ 2009-07-03 10:27:18 AM  
bluefelix: I don't know if I want to RTFA... it sounds like my nephew and his weird ass conspiracy theories. I'd probably want my 10 minutes back.

Don't bother-- It sounds like your mind is already made up.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:27:44 AM  

the lead in

The first thing you need to know about Goldman Sachs is that it's everywhere. The world's most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.

Any attempt to construct a narrative around all the former Goldmanites in influential positions quickly becomes an absurd and pointless exercise, like trying to make a list of everything. What you need to know is the big picture: If America is circling the drain, Goldman Sachs has found a way to be that drain - an extremely unfortunate loophole in the system of Western democratic capitalism, which never foresaw that in a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.

They achieve this using the same playbook over and over again. The formula is relatively simple: Goldman positions itself in the middle of a speculative bubble, selling investments they know are crap. Then they hoover up vast sums from the middle and lower floors of society with the aid of a crippled and corrupt state that allows it to rewrite the rules in exchange for the relative pennies the bank throws at political patronage. Finally, when it all goes bust, leaving millions of ordinary citizens broke and starving, they begin the entire process over again, riding in to rescue us all by lending us back our own money at interest, selling themselves as men above greed, just a bunch of really smart guys keeping the wheels greased. They've been pulling this same stunt over and over since the 1920s - and now they're preparing to do it again, creating what may be the biggest and most audacious bubble yet.

 
blueyedevil 2009-07-03 10:31:41 AM  
Was there any question that it was Matt Taibbi?

 
godofusa.com 2009-07-03 10:34:27 AM  
Democrats, the party of Wall Street.

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:34:45 AM  
eqtworld: Last One Left: It, quite honestly, is less about Goldman Sachs engineering every meltdown than it is a history of their role in every meltdown. But it's obvious they would have some part to play in everything that went on in the last century, given their importance in finance and politics.

Well yeah, the whole point of an investment bank is to sell high and buy low.

That's like getting pissed at Warren Buffet, he openly does the same thing.


Or George Soros. He's a genius at short selling currency during economic downturns.

 
Pants full of macaroni!! 2009-07-03 10:35:11 AM  
Vampire Squid would be a great band name.

/yeah, got nuffin

 
Certainly You Jest 2009-07-03 10:35:47 AM  
WTF is the best investigative journalism around doing in fugging Rolling Stone?!?

I mean, good for Rolling Stone and all that, but shouldn't this guy be working for the Times or the Post?

Learn much more. (new window)

 
godofusa.com 2009-07-03 10:36:56 AM  
Nabb1: eqtworld: Last One Left: It, quite honestly, is less about Goldman Sachs engineering every meltdown than it is a history of their role in every meltdown. But it's obvious they would have some part to play in everything that went on in the last century, given their importance in finance and politics.

Well yeah, the whole point of an investment bank is to sell high and buy low.

That's like getting pissed at Warren Buffet, he openly does the same thing.

Or George Soros. He's a genius at short selling currency during economic downturns.


Soros is having a "very good crisis".

 
FlashHarry [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:37:11 AM  
godofusa.com: Democrats, the party of Wall Street.

lolwut?

 
FlashHarry [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:38:12 AM  
godofusa.com: Soros is having a "very good crisis".

do you hate capitalism, comrade?

 
crab66 2009-07-03 10:40:55 AM  
godofusa.com: Democrats, the party of Wall Street.

The opposite of truth is always fun.

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:42:53 AM  
FlashHarry: godofusa.com: Soros is having a "very good crisis".

do you hate capitalism, comrade?


Those are Soros's own words. I know he gets a lot of admiration for his stated political views, but he doesn't hesitate to exploit what he decries for personal profit. Of course, he is smart as hell for doing it, but I have no illusions about what the man really is.

 
Lost Thought 00 2009-07-03 10:44:01 AM  
This is like saying Microsoft is behind everything that has every happened in computing for the last 30 years.

 
willfullyobscure 2009-07-03 10:44:24 AM  
Certainly You Jest: WTF is the best investigative journalism around doing in fugging Rolling Stone?!?


you are confused on a few things, i sense. this is the Phil Spector style of investigative journalism.

Matty is not working for a serious rag because he is a lazy, speculative, ethically-challeneged dunce who trades off on histrionics to cover up logical and factual gullies you could hide a jumbo jet in.

 
godofusa.com 2009-07-03 10:44:46 AM  
crab66: godofusa.com: Democrats, the party of Wall Street.

The opposite of truth is always fun.


Goldman Sachs is a Democrat factory. See: John Corzine. The "Wall Street Wizard" who destroyed New Jersey.

 
mloree 2009-07-03 10:46:23 AM  
I say we kill them all

 
FlashHarry [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 10:54:05 AM  
Nabb1: FlashHarry: godofusa.com: Soros is having a "very good crisis".

do you hate capitalism, comrade?

Those are Soros's own words. I know he gets a lot of admiration for his stated political views, but he doesn't hesitate to exploit what he decries for personal profit. Of course, he is smart as hell for doing it, but I have no illusions about what the man really is.


i'm well aware that soros said that. personally, i find the man fascinating. i was merely "feeding the troll" out of boredom.

 
Cucullen 2009-07-03 10:58:55 AM  
eqtworld: Come on, this is like the 9/11 truthers who think Bush blew up the Pentagon with a missile and flew remote control jets into the towers.

Taibbi on the Truthers (new window)

He points out a couple of relevant facts about GS.

They have greatly profited from various bubbles.
They played a big part in creating these bubbles.
They have greatly profited from deregulation.
They have a great deal of influence in Washington, which they have used to get that deregulation.
They get serviced by both (R) and (D), so bend over taxpayer.

Here's something he didn't mention. They report close to $1 Trillion in assets. That has a lot more to say about their influence on the economy and power than their market cap, which is just the icing on the cake.

 
SVenus 2009-07-03 11:04:36 AM  
And the next bubble will be controlled by Goldman-Sachs, too.

Carbon trading. It's like a Ponzi scheme for jobs.

 
Cucullen 2009-07-03 11:05:08 AM  
eqtworld: That's like getting pissed at Warren Buffet, he openly does the same thing.

Buffet specifically does not engage in short term derivative trading.

 
Satan_Sunburn 2009-07-03 11:05:25 AM  
Jesus Christ, get in the car! It's Goldman Sachs!

Seriously, that was a hell of a read. Thanks subby!

 
godofusa.com 2009-07-03 11:06:11 AM  
SVenus: And the next bubble will be controlled by Goldman-Sachs, too.

Carbon trading. It's like a Ponzi scheme for jobs.


GE is going to make a KILLING from the AGW hoax.

 
Metaluna Mutant 2009-07-03 11:09:06 AM  
farm3.static.flickr.com

 
crab66 2009-07-03 11:10:08 AM  
godofusa.com: crab66: godofusa.com: Democrats, the party of Wall Street.

The opposite of truth is always fun.

Goldman Sachs is a Democrat factory. See: John Corzine. The "Wall Street Wizard" who destroyed New Jersey.


Bullshiat.

 
hockeyfarker [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 11:12:50 AM  
that's some good imagery right there.

 
Ruz 2009-07-03 11:13:11 AM  
No mention of Citigroup's Dr. Evil plan?(Yes, they really called it that).

If you're going to massively manipulate the bond market, naming the plan after a film villain is the least you could do. Made me laugh at the time. Other people not so much.

 
Masso 2009-07-03 11:13:35 AM  
I read the article, there's nothing new here. Goldman Sachs sells high and buys low, got connections with DC. Same old Wall Street conspiracy story.

 
winterwhile 2009-07-03 11:13:46 AM  
so just how is that Stim working? Not so well dem-o-rats?

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 11:18:22 AM  
winterwhile: so just how is that Stim working? Not so well dem-o-rats?

only about 1/8th of it has gone out. it's slow getting the money out to the states for some reason. but the money for unemployment benefits has been put to good use. but states still teeter on the edge of bankruptcy. Calif is about to have a day of reckoning if they can't get something done.

 
Erebus1954 2009-07-03 11:19:35 AM  
I wonder if Soros is shorting the US dollar.

 
Mentat [TotalFark] 2009-07-03 11:21:48 AM  
eqtworld: What does that have to do with anything? People making 40k a year bidding on 400k houses caused the problem.

No, because the value of the mortgage market is trivial in terms of the value of the derivatives market that has been built on top of it. When you build a house of cards on a pile of sleeping ferrets, you shouldn't blame the ferrets when they wake up.

 
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