Limbaugh got us started down the road of opinion-as-fact--when he was making his first million, he probably never imagined the unintended consequences of that.

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That's actually quite tragic.

FTFA: Media-mocking humor is rampant throughout the reports: there's Jones dressed as the stereotypical foreign correspondent - requisite facial stubble, khaki reporter's vest and dark sunglasses, a Persian scarf draped roguishly around his neck.


When I watched Jones' reporting, that went right over my head - probably because "reporters" such as Rather, Cooper et al helped create a version of Hollywood-style news.

I was about to say, "at least they're on the progressive side." Which made me stop to think, "man, that'd be a dumb thing to say." Which then made me stop to think, "wow... reality is on the progressive side."

Huh.

snuff3r: That's actually quite tragic.

And yet here we are on a 'comedy' website which was an important source for news during the Iranian protests...

I thought the comedic reports from overseas were insightful but I felt badly about Jason Jones going full retard on unsuspecting people, especially when three of those people ended up getting arrested within days. I heard that the one cleric was released but haven't heard about the other two. I hope they are alright.

notmtwain: I thought the comedic reports from overseas were insightful but I felt badly about Jason Jones going full retard on unsuspecting people, especially when three of those people ended up getting arrested within days. I heard that the one cleric was released but haven't heard about the other two. I hope they are alright.

I'm kind of surprises me they still aired the interviews.

SilentStrider: I'm kind of surprises

that should read "IT" kind of surpises me.

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Amen.

/STEWART: You're on CNN. The show that leads into me is puppets making crank phone calls. What is wrong with you?

The best humour is as sharp as a razor, you won't realize how deeply you've been cut until it's too late.

The R.I.P.y's were great

shivashakti: And yet here we are on a 'comedy' website which was an important source for news during the Iranian protests...

This is a news aggregation site with punchy headlines -- links to other's news sites. Hardly a direct line to the likes of Stewart or Colbert. I see the point you're trying to make but it's pretty tragic nonetheless.

Bored Horde: The best humour is as sharp as a razor, you won't realize how deeply you've been cut until it's too late.

That line says it all. I love the way he destroyed that show. Jon Steware, destroyer of worlds.

What many people don't notice is how biting his criticisms of Obama has been. His criticisms have much more traction than the garbage Fox comes up with.

Skail: I was about to say, "at least they're on the progressive side." Which made me stop to think, "man, that'd be a dumb thing to say." Which then made me stop to think, "wow... reality is on the progressive side."

Huh.

It's well known that reality does have a liberal bias.

mrshowrules: What many people don't notice is how biting his criticisms of Obama has been. His criticisms have much more traction than the garbage Fox comes up with.

And yet Fox isn't saying anything about it, probably because they can't comprehend Stewart attacking Obama because independent thinking is beyond them.

GAT_00:

mrshowrules: What many people don't notice is how biting his criticisms of Obama has been. His criticisms have much more traction than the garbage Fox comes up with.

And yet Fox isn't saying anything about it, probably because they can't comprehend Stewart attacking Obama because independent thinking is beyond them.

Bingo! Independent thought is what they lack. Also, they can't even get original ideas from their viewership because they are only capable of regurgitating BS that they hear on Fox. The only info they run with is the speaking points generated from the shattered Republican party.

Any criticism of Obama (similarities to Bush for example) are off the table for Fox because this is not being fed to them by the Republican party. Anything stupid Obama does that be compared to stuff the Republican do/have done is also off the table.

Anytime I see someone talking about bombing Iran, I want to show them that footage of Iranian kids on a playground.

The Icelander: Anytime I see someone talking about bombing Iran, I want to show them that footage of Iranian kids on a playground.

If they start talking about bombing a nuke plant, show them pictures of the kids born around Chernobyl. The heavy metals won't dissapear in a fireball, they'll go right into the water table and haunt Iran for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years.

notmtwain: I thought the comedic reports from overseas were insightful but I felt badly about Jason Jones going full retard on unsuspecting people, especially when three of those people ended up getting arrested within days. I heard that the one cleric was released but haven't heard about the other two. I hope they are alright.

The part about that whole series that go to me was the wrap up at the end. When he came out and talked with Jon, wearing his green wristband and showing video of the protest marches and talking about the people there.

The Icelander: Anytime I see someone talking about bombing Iran, I want to show them that footage of Iranian kids on a playground.

And John Bolton's heart grew three sizes that day.

DistendedPendulusFrenulum: Limbaugh got us started down the road of opinion-as-fact--when he was making his first million, he probably never imagined the unintended consequences of that.

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Well, in his defense, he was probably stoned out of his mind.

Skail: I was about to say, "at least they're on the progressive side." Which made me stop to think, "man, that'd be a dumb thing to say." Which then made me stop to think, "wow... reality is on the progressive side."

Huh.

There are people who want the world to progress normally and those who want to arrest it or retrogress it if possible because they're on top and want to keep it that way.

It's known as good and evil.

Phil Moskowitz: Skail: I was about to say, "at least they're on the progressive side." Which made me stop to think, "man, that'd be a dumb thing to say." Which then made me stop to think, "wow... reality is on the progressive side."

Huh.

There are people who want the world to progress normally and those who want to arrest it or retrogress it if possible because they're on top and want to keep it that way.

It's known as good and evil.

When you've figured out what you're progressing to, let the rest of us in on it :) Meanwhile, I'll stay out of your black and white universe, which as far as I can see is mostly black.

-There's this other place, dominated by "common sense", where the people realize that the best path forward is the best of the old + the best of the new.

-Too many "progressives", a.k.a. liberals, seem to think that anything new coming from the left is some kind of farking manna from heaven. It isn't new, you can find it all either coming out of Jimmy Carter's mouth or in Karl Marx's books. It isn't good or progressive, because it's all been tried before and failed.

Mentat: And John Bolton's heart grew three sizes that day.

Which still put him at only 3% as much of a heart as a normal human.

Which is still magnitudes of order more than Dick Cheney has.

that made me tear up a little

my youtube-fu is weak today, for some reason (I blame last night's gin). Does anyone have a link to the last daily show-iran segment, reference in the article? The sober "round up" thing?

Thanks in advance.

Animatronik: -Too many "progressives", a.k.a. liberals, seem to think that anything new coming from the left is some kind of farking manna from heaven. It isn't new, you can find it all either coming out of Jimmy Carter's mouth or in Karl Marx's books. It isn't good or progressive, because it's all been tried before and failed.

Please tell me you're joking.

shivashakti: snuff3r: That's actually quite tragic.

And yet here we are on a 'comedy' website which was an important source for news during the Iranian protests...

This!

Instead of relying on CNN, Faux and MSNBC/ABC/any of the other US media I relied on BBC News, The Guardian and (holy shiite on a stick) Fark.

It's sad to see that U.S. media has sunken so far since the first Gulf conflict when they were hailed as the example for the rest of the world to follow. Since then the celebrity culture, opinion presented as news and idiotic local stories has dominated, which caused the disconnect between people in the U.S. and the rest of the world.

The piece Jason Jones did on what people in the U.S. knew about Iran compared to what people in Iran knew about the U.S. highlighted this beautifully, as did this report by National Geographic a while ago (new window).

Now the most reliable foreign news comes from a guy who runs a spoof news show. I for one am appalled at this.

Did anyone see the "Michael Douglas does the voiceover of our intro" piece last night? It really sums up how these "branding consultants" have pretty much ruined news. Until "brand re-enforcement whenever possible" stops being the norm on cable news it won't change from the usual garbage in, garbage out.

sn0r: shivashakti: snuff3r: That's actually quite tragic.

And yet here we are on a 'comedy' website which was an important source for news during the Iranian protests...

This!

Instead of relying on CNN, Faux and MSNBC/ABC/any of the other US media I relied on BBC News, The Guardian and (holy shiite on a stick) Fark.

It's sad to see that U.S. media has sunken so far since the first Gulf conflict when they were hailed as the example for the rest of the world to follow. Since then the celebrity culture, opinion presented as news and idiotic local stories has dominated, which caused the disconnect between people in the U.S. and the rest of the world.

The piece Jason Jones did on what people in the U.S. knew about Iran compared to what people in Iran knew about the U.S. highlighted this beautifully, as did this report by National Geographic a while ago (new window).

Now the most reliable foreign news comes from a guy who runs a spoof news show. I for one am appalled at this.

I blame OJ.

Stile4aly: Anthony Bourdain approves.

Wowzers, I'm going to cite that a lot now

The Icelander: Anytime I see someone talking about bombing Iran, I want to show them that footage of Iranian kids on a playground.

QFT

And, yes, I sadly realize that hardened hearts would refuse to budge and would twist into knots inventing rationalizations and justifications.

CalvinMorallis: my youtube-fu is weak today, for some reason (I blame last night's gin). Does anyone have a link to the last daily show-iran segment, reference in the article? The sober "round up" thing?

Thanks in advance.

Here ya go. (pops)

sn0r: Instead of relying on CNN, Faux and MSNBC/ABC/any of the other US media I relied on BBC News, The Guardian and (holy shiite on a stick) Fark.

For all of the talk about how worthless everyone in those threads were, I wonder if CNN would have devoted nearly as much time to the protests than they did had they not been shamed into submission by bloggers and farkers.

Jon (aka God) Stewart and Steven Colbert are two of the few on TV to tell the truth and not be cowed by some corporate hack with a check signing pen and an agenda to push.

Animatronik: There's this other place, dominated by "common sense", where the people realize that the best path forward is the best of the old + the best of the new.

But unless you both question the old and try the new you'll never know the best of either.

Mentat: For all of the talk about how worthless everyone in those threads were, I wonder if CNN would have devoted nearly as much time to the protests than they did had they not been shamed into submission by bloggers and farkers.

None I think. The CNNFail blog and twitter threads are good indications that some if not most of the intelligent news junkies took them to task for it. They back-pedalled until Michael Jackson's death, which gave them a convenient excuse to ignore it again.

It's a sad, sad state of affairs.

Both sets of shows were incredible.

Two small things struck me from those shows. Colbert getting his head shaved---I don't picture any of the "star" journalists on the networks doing that. The fact that even now, when I turn on the show and see Stephen, it reminds me of the troops in Iraq says how important it was for him to do that.

The other was Jason Jones playing Wii with the family in Iraq. Could have been Anytown, USA. That short piece of tape said as much about the Iraqi people as any daily briefing from the White House in the last 7 years.

Mentat: The Icelander: Anytime I see someone talking about bombing Iran, I want to show them that footage of Iranian kids on a playground.

And John Bolton's heart grew three sizes that day.

zero times three is still zero.

CNN was good when they were just news. I don't know what happened but one day I woke up and realize CNN is nothing but pundits after pundits.

"Fake News" Would be making shiat up and presenting them as facts, that's what The Onion does... or Fox News.

The Daily Show and Colbert present REAL political news and then make a joke about it. That's not fake that's just funny.

Animatronik: Phil Moskowitz: Skail: I was about to say, "at least they're on the progressive side." Which made me stop to think, "man, that'd be a dumb thing to say." Which then made me stop to think, "wow... reality is on the progressive side."

Huh.

There are people who want the world to progress normally and those who want to arrest it or retrogress it if possible because they're on top and want to keep it that way.

It's known as good and evil.

When you've figured out what you're progressing to, let the rest of us in on it :) Meanwhile, I'll stay out of your black and white universe, which as far as I can see is mostly black.

-There's this other place, dominated by "common sense", where the people realize that the best path forward is the best of the old + the best of the new.

-Too many "progressives", a.k.a. liberals, seem to think that anything new coming from the left is some kind of farking manna from heaven. It isn't new, you can find it all either coming out of Jimmy Carter's mouth or in Karl Marx's books. It isn't good or progressive, because it's all been tried before and failed.

In many parts of Africa, it's common sense that if your child has a fever and dies it's because that child was cursed by a witch, which must be killed. That witch, of course, could be another child. Alternately, if your child is sick, it's common sense that some albino kidney will clear that right up.

Animatronik:

Look, a boulder in the road insisting that a detour should be built around it. No. Blow the shiat out of the obstacle and keep going.

I used to be a big fan of The Daily show, but I hadn't watched it in quite a while. Over the last few weeks I've watched 4 or 5 episodes (including a couple featuring stuff from Iran) and I was really disappointed. It seems all Jon Stewart does is show clips from the media and make funny faces. Sometimes this is funny and/or deserved, but when he is just showing someone making a legitimate mistake, it is kind of ridiculous. The stuff from Iran also left me really dissapointed. It is one thing to put the joke on someone who knows what is going on (or ought to know), but these guys had no idea. Most of them barely spoke English.

Animatronik:
-Too many "progressives", a.k.a. liberals, seem to think that anything new coming from the left is some kind of farking manna from heaven. It isn't new, you can find it all either coming out of Jimmy Carter's mouth or in Karl Marx's books. It isn't good or progressive, because it's all been tried before and failed.

Ok i'll bite. What's common sense and what has been tried and failed?

nyihockey: It is one thing to put the joke on someone who knows what is going on (or ought to know), but these guys had no idea. Most of them barely spoke English.

I thought the Times Square footage was pretty harsh, too.

jj325:
The other was Jason Jones playing Wii with the family in Iraq Iran. Could have been Anytown, USA. That short piece of tape said as much about the Iraqi Iranian people as any daily briefing from the White House in the last 7 years.




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