GREAT article with lots of truth in it; too bad every lib in here will deny it, even though its in HuffPo.

Sort of like the crazy hate the right has for Obama?

Glass houses, douchebags, glass houses.

I don't "hate" the woman. I just think she's a dumbass.

bingethinker: Sort of like the crazy hate the right has for Obama?

Glass houses, douchebags, glass houses.

too bad every motherless neocon douchef*ck here will deny it.

santadog: I don't "hate" the woman. I just think she's a dumbass.

Ding! ding! ding! ding! and what do we have for the winner, Johnny?

So says Douglas MacKinnon, former press secretary to Sen. Bob Dole.
Quite the lefty there.

See, that's the thing about HuffPo, as much as the wingnuts like to pretend that it's some sort of far left smear machine, they actually run articles, like this one, by moderate and conservative voices.

So, my conservative friends, what part of the Vanity Fair article was false?

There's a fair bit of difference between hate and ridicule. Too bad the Right can't figure out the distinction.

I don't hate her. I think she's dumber than a rock and the best possible thing that could have happened to the GOP. Palin/Plumber 2012!

Alacritous 2009-07-03 12:40:14 AM
There's a fair bit of difference between hate and ridicule. Too bad the Right can't figure out the distinction.

Or the Left.

And you responded just the way I figured you would: insult her, call her stupid, blah blah blah.

As was pointed out, if you folks werent afraid of her you would let it go.

Obama is different for the simple fact that he is lies about and misrepresents almost every idea he brings up:
'I dont want to run a car company'
'Bushs deficits are shameful so I will triple them'
' US Healthcare is terrible' yet 86% of US citizens are happy with their care
'I don't want the US to control healthcare' yet that is exactly what he is trying to do.

And each of you will deny these and the rest of topics he lies about.

mfaby: insult her, call her stupid

That's not hate. Closer to contempt. But not hate. And if the Right hadn't taken her to their bosom and proclaimed her the second coming of christ but female, the left would have dropped it long ago. We're mocking her, and mocking you at the same time. It's win win. She is in actual fact quite scarily stupid.

propasaurus: So says Douglas MacKinnon, former press secretary to Sen. Bob Dole.
Quite the lefty there.

See, that's the thing about HuffPo, as much as the wingnuts like to pretend that it's some sort of far left smear machine, they actually run articles, like this one, by moderate and conservative voices.

why are you peeing in mfaby's cornflakes?

Ariana has right-wing friends who blog on her site. subby fail.

mfaby: GREAT article with lots of truth in it; too bad every lib in here will deny it, even though its in HuffPo.

She is farking brilliant/Jesus. Happy? The way you people react to everything damn thing said about her, you would think she was your new Messiah.

There are people who should lead the country, and there are people who should lead state with the population of a small city. Mrs. Palin is the later.

I wish her all the best, but if she is going to claim she has a degree in journalism and then go on television and be unable to name a single newspaper she reads, I will mock her. If she goes to a church that thinks you can expel demons with prayer, I will mock her. If she has the audacity to call gay and lesbian people unfit to be parents, while her own parenting clearly is less then perfect, I will mock her.

But keep holding her up. Keep forcing her under a spotlight she is unready for. Keep claiming her version of the GOP is the only truth. The Democratic party thanks you for your contributions.

The problem is that the Vanity Fair article is pretty much spot-on. Palin has a massive inferiority complex. She treats the most trivial of slights as attacks on her honor and responds with disproportionate force. How someone so thin-skinned has survived as a politician, I don't know. She has lots of charisma and good political instincts, but she has no governor (har har) that tells her when to let up. The Letterman incident, for example, was the perfect opportunity for her to gain some gravitas and she went for it, but as is her way, she took it to such an extreme that she just ended up making herself look stupid. She's extremely ambitious to the point that she readily betrays her mentors or anyone outside of a few close advisers (named Todd). As a result, she has alienated the support network that she needs if she's ever going to make a serious run for national office. She's an intellectual lightweight and she knows it, which further fuels her inferiority complex. As a result, she tries to hide it with her down-home, you betcha moose-killer shtick. It's blatant pandering, which is why the conservative base loves it, but the moderates she needs to attract are turned off by the crassness of the act. The only people who buy her act are the conservatives suffering battered wife syndrome who believe that "Sarah really does love me".

/And yes, I'm raping you with my mouth

bingethinker: Sort of like the crazy hate the right has for Obama?

Glass houses, douchebags, glass houses.

Or the crazy hate for Bush? or the crazy hate for Clinton?

Wow, this could go on forever!

Klingon Penis: Ariana has right-wing friends who blog on her site. subby fail.

Really? Seems to me that someone at the Huffington Post pointed out Left Wing hate for Palin, or what the author sees as Left Wing hate, where did the Subby fail?

///Not the Subby, by the way.

GAT_00: I don't hate her. I think she's dumber than a rock and the best possible thing that could have happened to the GOP. Palin/Plumber 2012!

Ugh, don't even joke about a ticket like that!

I'm sorry, when even CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER and I agree on something, I think we can say the broad consensus is that she is, in fact, a lying shallow half-wit who is unqualified and unable to become qualified to run for President on her own merit.

America is a pretty big country with many smart citizens who would do a better job as Republican presidential nominee. I know - you're thinking, "Come on, a smart Republican? They're all Fark Independents now" - but I have faith they can do better. A lot better.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the entire farking point of the Vanity Fair article how much her own staff and various GOP campaign operatives couldn't stand her? You know, die-hard Republicans?

mfaby: GREAT article with lots of truth in it; too bad every lib in here will deny it, even though its in HuffPo.

Your fail is getting large enough to have its own zip code.

santadog: I don't "hate" the woman. I just think she's a dumbass.

Yes, ridicule and hate are not the same thing. It's the New Republican binary political thinking:

You're either with us or against us.
If you disagree with McCain, you support Obama.
If Obama makes a decision, I oppose it.
If you think that America could learn from another country in any way, you hate America.

It's disgusting.

Sgt Otter: Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the entire farking point of the Vanity Fair article how much her own staff and various GOP campaign operatives couldn't stand her? You know, die-hard Republicans?

you're wrong.

Good job Huff Po. Glad to see that someone stopped drinking the Kool-Aid.

Recent pieces by MacKinnon on Townhall:

June 30, 2009
Creeping Socialism Awakens Conservative Beliefs

June 26, 2009
Sarah Palin -- The Last Republican Standing?

June 9, 2009
Rush, Hannity, and the America of our Parents

May 13, 2009
What Pat Buchanan Failed to Mention

Apr 30, 2009
Retire the Disgraced Pulitzer Prize

Mar 31, 2009
Book Acts as Barometer Measuring the Fear of Obama

Mar 26, 2009
Shameless Republicans Fuel Mob Anger Against A.I.G.

Mar 24, 2009
Why won't big media probe Democrats' role in economic crisis?

Mar 4, 2009
Liberal Media Unemployment

Feb 24, 2009
We Are NOT Entitled

Jan 30, 2009
Paul Blart: Mall Cop. Please Arrest the Elitist Reviewers

Yeah, I'm going to take whatever he says with half a grain of salt.

Which brings me to a question I've been asking for months of my liberal friends: Why do so many on the left have such an unhinged hatred of this woman? Why do so many alleged feminists and female members of the mainstream media openly and gleefully despise Palin?

Convention address. She basically openly called the opposition her enemies. She's reaping the narrative she opened the national stage with. You want enemies? People will oblige if you ask for them.

^ that is all

I'm pleasantly surprised that Huffpo ran that, dissapointed I couldn't read comments on it though. Palin isn't the idiot many of you think she is, but at the time of the campaign she had some "growing up to do" and for that I blame the campaign staff. They should have made the decision to pick her long before they did, and had one person up there secretly coaching her and getting her ready well before the announcement. Just my opinion.

She's gotten much better but foreign policy still scares her a bit. (She fumbled around the NK missile names in one interview) so we'll see.

As for the rights hatred of Obama, yea it's as unhinged as the lefts for Palin, but to be fair, he's currently president and she's a losing VP Candidate, one is quite a bit more relevant than the other ;P

Don't mistake amusement for hate.

DarnoKonrad: Convention address. She basically openly called the opposition her enemies. She's reaping the narrative she opened the national stage with. You want enemies? People will oblige if you ask for them.

If that's your criteria, Biden basically said he'd slug every conservative in the nation; but I wouldn't recommend trying to pop him one back.

/You're reaching hard with that one.

"Hate" isn't the word. More like "contempt"

In my mind, she exists on the same page as most reality TV
show contestants -- so desperate to always have the camera
aimed at her. And she doesn't get the joke either. She's
a caricature of the attention-deprived female.

I want her to go away for forever. But I keep seeing her
name in the news. I am a bit fascinated by how people
spin her obvious deficiencies into victim hood -- which is
why I read this article.

CanisNoir:

/You're reaching hard with that one.

Nah, that's your shtick.

You simply can't compare any convention speech of the 2008 campaign with the dripping sarcasm, one liners, and vitriol that Palin delivered. And then after that, she went out on the road and said Obama was a socialist and paling around with terrorists. She insinuated he was a traitor.

She's a product of the image she fostered. Hateful and not terribly bright.

Personally I love her. She's the best thing that could have possibly happened to the Democrats in 2008. I hope she sticks around for years to come!

mfaby: Alacritous 2009-07-03 12:40:14 AM
There's a fair bit of difference between hate and ridicule. Too bad the Right can't figure out the distinction.

Or the Left.

And you responded just the way I figured you would: insult her, call her stupid, blah blah blah.

As was pointed out, if you folks werent afraid of her you would let it go.

I am afraid of her. Very afraid. Palin scares that shiat out of me. Why? Because she is

A) a moron
B) a hypocrite (more so than most politicians)
C) the right wing poster child of all things good and conservative despite (B).

She didn't care about McCain/Palin winning the election. She only cared about getting her name out there for herself. She doesn't care about Alaska. She doesn't care about the voters. She cares about her political career and her ambition.

So yes, she scares me.

We hated Bush, we laugh at the other kind of stupidity and hypocrisy of Palin. The beauty of it all, is that she's an evident trainwreck and if the Republican Party still supports her, its more entertainment value for us.

Actually Palin reminds me a lot of Cynthia McKinney

Which brings me to a question I've been asking for months of my liberal friends: Why do so many on the left have such an unhinged hatred of this woman? Why do so many alleged feminists and female members of the mainstream media openly and gleefully despise Palin?

Because we recognize she doesn't have the intellectual capacity or personal makeup to run this country and we are stunned that a huge chunk of conservatives either don't recognize this or ignore it in the name of "winning" something.

Her sneering speeches about intellectuals, science and research scare us even more.

We all knew Dan Quayle and Dennis Kucinich, to name a couple past election seekers, didn't have what it took to run the country, why is it not obvious with Palin?

I don't hate Palin. I hate what she represents.

Pointing out the fact that she's not fit to be president = hate.

Riiiigggghhhhht.

Vomity Fair is afraid of her running. It's quite simple.

I'll say this for Sarah:First impression is she's pretty sexy... then she opens her mouth and it's FacePalm Time. If she could just show a tad more genuine humility then more of America would cut her some slack, but instead she acts like a porn star at the Adult Oscars Awards(Not to impugn the more humble of porn stars)

mfaby: GREAT article with lots of truth in it; too bad every lib in here will deny it, even though its in HuffPo.

Is it really 'hate' to point out that's she's a dumbass?

mfaby: GREAT article with lots of truth in it; too bad every lib in here will deny it, even though its in HuffPo.

Actually, the conclusion reached here (that the article in Vanity Fair was a brutal professional hit with very little redeeming value) stuck me as spot on. But the reasoning used to get there is just farking crazy. So all of Palins critics are particularly vicious because they wan't to have sex with her or want to resemble her? Christ, she's hot, but not bend over a chair hot. She's coffee after church hot at best.

And lets get real, when an article talks about how a number of people in Alaska independantly dig up a medical book to diagnose a candidate...thats got to set off some alarm bells.

I don't hate Palin. I just don't care to be told how I should live my life by someone who has more issues in hers than a magazine stand.

CanisNoir: If that's your criteria, Biden basically said he'd slug every conservative in the nation; but I wouldn't recommend trying to pop him one back.

/You're reaching hard with that one.

when you introduce yourself to the nation as a pitbull with lipstick, you really have little room to react to receiving what you give as tho you are a delicate flower.

well, you should, at least.

Just in case anyone wants to read the article at hand...
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/08/sarah-palin200908?printable = true&currentPage=all
Link (new window)

It Came from Wasilla
Despite her disastrous performance in the 2008 election, Sarah Palin is still the sexiest brand in Republican politics, with a lucrative book contract for her story. But what Alaska's charismatic governor wants the public to know about herself doesn't always jibe with reality. As John McCain's top campaign officials talk more candidly than ever before about the meltdown of his vice-presidential pick, the author tracks the signs-political and personal-that Palin was big trouble, and checks the forecast for her future."

The one thing that really stuck out, for me, is the woman's casual relationship with the truth.

"At one point, trying out a debating point that she believed showed she could empathize with uninsured Americans, Palin told McCain aides that she and Todd in the early years of their marriage had been unable to afford health insurance of any kind, and had gone without it until he got his union card and went to work for British Petroleum on the North Slope of Alaska. Checking with Todd Palin himself revealed that, no, they had had catastrophic coverage all along. She insisted that catastrophic insurance didn't really count and need not be revealed."

"After one meeting between the governor and legislators in 2007, Lyda Green, then the president of the state senate, returned to her office to catch up on some paperwork. She caught Palin on the news. "And she comes on TV and says, 'I want to once again confirm that neither I nor my staff ever holds closed-door meetings.' Well, we had just been in a closed-door meeting for an hour and a half!""

And then there was this winning tidbit:

More than once in my travels in Alaska, people brought up, without prompting, the question of Palin's extravagant self-regard. Several told me, independently of one another, that they had consulted the definition of "narcissistic personality disorder" in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders-"a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy"-and thought it fit her perfectly. When Trig was born, Palin wrote an e-mail letter to friends and relatives, describing the belated news of her pregnancy and detailing Trig's condition; she wrote the e-mail not in her own name but in God's, and signed it "Trig's Creator, Your Heavenly Father."

Euell Gibbons: Vomity Fair is afraid of her running. It's quite simple.

No one in America is afraid of her running. I pray she's the next Republican candidate.

Then we'll get a third party.

santadog: I don't "hate" the woman. I just think she's a dumbass.

I've had to put up with her for years longer than non-Alaskans have. I kinda hate her. AND she's a dumbass.

I don't hate Sarah Palin. I'm practically Green/Red, but I don't hate her at all.

1. She's easy on the eyes. She's got the same politics as Maggie Thatcher, but I never daydreamed that Maggie was walking on my back in shiny white sneakers (btw thanks, rocinante721!)

2. She's a great magnet for Family-Country-God types. Keeps 'em busy while more moderate candidates collar the much larger centrist vote. America needs more moderate politicians. If Palin makes pandering to your base "uncool", it'll be her greatest gift to politics.

3. She's hilarious. Not only is every other cliche out of her mouth instantly repeatable, but the Palin-Biden debate meme is one of my favourites.

4. Not that Tina Fey needed a career boost, but anything that gets that lady more screen time is okay in my book. Ms. Fey: Brains are the new sexy, and it don't hurt none that you're sexy to start with.

5. I figure 2012 is Romney's chance, but he'll lose after Obama takes credit for the natural recovery from recession. Smart backers will get Palin a'studyin' to smarten up for her chance in 2016 (Gingrich will be disqualified by a heterosexual scandal in 2011). And Hillary is gonna demolish Sarah in debates, then just squeak by in the Electoral College by getting all of California, NY and surprisingly Texas, while conceding most of the landlocked states to Palin. Texas would never send a woman from Alaska to Washington. They hate Alaskans a lot more than Arkansans. Looking forward to Bill being co-President again.

Ok, let me be the first to admit it. I hate her. I have known people exactly like her in my life, and I hate them all.

Controlling, conniving, lying, soulless, douchebags that have attained some level of power and would do anything or step over anyone to retain and increase that power.

She, and everyone like her, can EABOD and DIAF. Right now.