RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: Fart_Machine: RevMercutio: Who voted Republican until 1960. Was Republicanism socialist as well?

Did you look up the reference I gave you? That's OK. I'll wait.

I did (Note to PascalsGhost, this is how you actually debate) now. I see that we're speaking to distinct different timeframes, though.

I have no idea what you posted.

Then read again. I put in two links. Other people said the SAME EXACT THING. Yet I'm the one you called an idiot.

You're just as bad as the dipshiats on the right, congratulations on sinking to their level and celebrating your ignorance.

I challenge you to show me were you posted a single thing in this thread. Seriously.

You challenge me to find links I put in that you're too lazy to search? You're that intellectually lazy?

While you're waiting...

I looked. You posted no links. You are lying.

HighOnCraic: These are the same people that argue that Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. He actually supported Eisenhower--the last Republican to get elected while losing heavily in the Deep South--and stayed neutral in the Kennedy vs. Nixon election, and lambasted Republicans for nominating Goldwater.


Why don't you call him names too? Seeing as he said the same thing.

He is wrong. MLK never endorsed Ike. Never. Not even a little.

Again, provide me a link. There isn't one.

Do you understand, you aren't arguing with me anymore, you are arguing with recorded history.

RevMercutio: You challenge me to find links I put in that you're too lazy to search? You're that intellectually lazy?

While you're waiting...

Uh, dude, I just looked for them too. I don't see them. It is 3:30 and I could be missing them, but I searched through each instance of your name in this thread and didn't see them.

PascalsGhost: There are no links. You can end this by simply pointing them out to me.

Ah, my mistake, for which I apologize. It appears the post got eaten. Which may be alright, as I also told you to go fark yourself in it, since your Weeners to me was to insult me despite the fact you had no desire to do it to others who brought it up.

Alveda King, Dr. King's niece is one of the advocates of Dr. King voting Republican. Fark seems to disallow most of the links to her primary statement on the matter, but if you google her name, you can find it.

That was weird. . .

RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: There are no links. You can end this by simply pointing them out to me.

Ah, my mistake, for which I apologize. It appears the post got eaten. Which may be alright, as I also told you to go fark yourself in it, since your Weeners to me was to insult me despite the fact you had no desire to do it to others who brought it up.

Riiggghhhht....

Alveda King, Dr. King's niece is one of the advocates of Dr. King voting Republican. Fark seems to disallow most of the links to her primary statement on the matter, but if you google her name, you can find it.

Alveda is a crazy right winger whose family says lies about MLK all the time.

However, this doesn't matter as Alveda has never once suggest MLK did vote for a Republican or endorse Ike. Ever.

Again, you have amazed me in this thread. Its simple facts. fark does't allow? Cut and paste...

PascalsGhost: He is wrong. MLK never endorsed Ike. Never. Not even a little.


Yet you didn't call him an idiot.

PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: There are no links. You can end this by simply pointing them out to me.

Ah, my mistake, for which I apologize. It appears the post got eaten. Which may be alright, as I also told you to go fark yourself in it, since your Weeners to me was to insult me despite the fact you had no desire to do it to others who brought it up.

Riiggghhhht....

Alveda King, Dr. King's niece is one of the advocates of Dr. King voting Republican. Fark seems to disallow most of the links to her primary statement on the matter, but if you google her name, you can find it.

Alveda is a crazy right winger whose family says lies about MLK all the time.

However, this doesn't matter as Alveda has never once suggest MLK did vote for a Republican or endorse Ike. Ever.

Again, you have amazed me in this thread. Its simple facts. fark does't allow? Cut and paste...

It went to a PDF file. Fark kills off those links. Try it yourself rather than act like an asshole for once.

RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: He is wrong. MLK never endorsed Ike. Never. Not even a little.


Yet you didn't call him an idiot.

He didn't claim to have evidence and not show it.

Now lets just man up and admit this whole thread has been a lie for you.

Say it: There is no evidence anywhere of MLK ever supporting Republicans. EVER.

RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: There are no links. You can end this by simply pointing them out to me.

Ah, my mistake, for which I apologize. It appears the post got eaten. Which may be alright, as I also told you to go fark yourself in it, since your Weeners to me was to insult me despite the fact you had no desire to do it to others who brought it up.

Riiggghhhht....

Alveda King, Dr. King's niece is one of the advocates of Dr. King voting Republican. Fark seems to disallow most of the links to her primary statement on the matter, but if you google her name, you can find it.

Alveda is a crazy right winger whose family says lies about MLK all the time.

However, this doesn't matter as Alveda has never once suggest MLK did vote for a Republican or endorse Ike. Ever.

Again, you have amazed me in this thread. Its simple facts. fark does't allow? Cut and paste...

It went to a PDF file. Fark kills off those links. Try it yourself rather than act like an asshole for once.

You can't cut and paste from a PDF?

Why are you doing this? Why not admit it?

PascalsGhost: One, I can't find a single link you posted in this thread, and two, if you have proof King voted, endorsed, or registered Republican, you can make a LOT of money.

Even if it were true, he's clearly a liberal

PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: He is wrong. MLK never endorsed Ike. Never. Not even a little.


Yet you didn't call him an idiot.

He didn't claim to have evidence and not show it.

Now lets just man up and admit this whole thread has been a lie for you.

Say it: There is no evidence anywhere of MLK ever supporting Republicans. EVER.

Uh, I think Fark ate the post man. That said, after looking up on Alveda King, she seems hardly objective in this matter. Not saying she's for sure lying, but she's a pro-life Brownback supporter who is against gay marriage. She seems wholly taken with the Republican agenda and used MLK's name to promote Prop 8. I don't know if she is lying, but using MLK to promote prop 8. . . That kills any trust I have for her.

PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: He is wrong. MLK never endorsed Ike. Never. Not even a little.


Yet you didn't call him an idiot.

He didn't claim to have evidence and not show it.

Now lets just man up and admit this whole thread has been a lie for you.

Say it: There is no evidence anywhere of MLK ever supporting Republicans. EVER.

I'll say "fark off", instead. Considering that when other said it, you didn't insult them, but did that as your first rebuttal, I don't owe a condescending little shiat like you anything.

Particularly after I apologized for the mistake, as apparently the initial post didn't go through. I may in fact be wrong, and King may not have voted Republican like I believed. However, I didn't act like a little shiat over it because it might have harmed my worldview.

RemyDuron: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: He is wrong. MLK never endorsed Ike. Never. Not even a little.


Yet you didn't call him an idiot.

He didn't claim to have evidence and not show it.

Now lets just man up and admit this whole thread has been a lie for you.

Say it: There is no evidence anywhere of MLK ever supporting Republicans. EVER.

Uh, I think Fark ate the post man. That said, after looking up on Alveda King, she seems hardly objective in this matter. Not saying she's for sure lying, but she's a pro-life Brownback supporter who is against gay marriage. She seems wholly taken with the Republican agenda and used MLK's name to promote Prop 8. I don't know if she is lying, but using MLK to promote prop 8. . . That kills any trust I have for her.

And she has never claimed he supported Republicans. EVER. She just claims he would now.

PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: There are no links. You can end this by simply pointing them out to me.

Ah, my mistake, for which I apologize. It appears the post got eaten. Which may be alright, as I also told you to go fark yourself in it, since your Weeners to me was to insult me despite the fact you had no desire to do it to others who brought it up.

Riiggghhhht....

Alveda King, Dr. King's niece is one of the advocates of Dr. King voting Republican. Fark seems to disallow most of the links to her primary statement on the matter, but if you google her name, you can find it.

Alveda is a crazy right winger whose family says lies about MLK all the time.

However, this doesn't matter as Alveda has never once suggest MLK did vote for a Republican or endorse Ike. Ever.

Again, you have amazed me in this thread. Its simple facts. fark does't allow? Cut and paste...

It went to a PDF file. Fark kills off those links. Try it yourself rather than act like an asshole for once.

You can't cut and paste from a PDF?

Why are you doing this? Why not admit it?

Because you've already dismissed the source.

RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: He is wrong. MLK never endorsed Ike. Never. Not even a little.


Yet you didn't call him an idiot.

He didn't claim to have evidence and not show it.

Now lets just man up and admit this whole thread has been a lie for you.

Say it: There is no evidence anywhere of MLK ever supporting Republicans. EVER.

I'll say "fark off", instead. Considering that when other said it, you didn't insult them, but did that as your first rebuttal, I don't owe a condescending little shiat like you anything.

Particularly after I apologized for the mistake, as apparently the initial post didn't go through. I may in fact be wrong, and King may not have voted Republican like I believed. However, I didn't act like a little shiat over it because it might have harmed my worldview.

Didn't that feel better? Just let the lies flow off your chest like a heavy weight?

There you go big guy....

RevMercutio: You challenge me to find links I put in that you're too lazy to search? You're that intellectually lazy?

where are they?!?!?!?!??!

I don't see them, but it's late so I may be missing them. Please point them out.

PascalsGhost:

Didn't that feel better? Just let the lies flow off your chest like a heavy weight?

There you go big guy....

Did I lie? No. Was I mistaken? Probably. Have you been an absolute twat in this thread? Absolutely.

That's just one difference between you and me.

brainiac-dumdum: RevMercutio: You challenge me to find links I put in that you're too lazy to search? You're that intellectually lazy?

where are they?!?!?!?!??!

I don't see them, but it's late so I may be missing them. Please point them out.

Post got eaten. I've no desire to hunt the links down again, and they offer mostly conjecture like what was seen in this thread by other people who didn't get called names.

brainiac-dumdum: RevMercutio: You challenge me to find links I put in that you're too lazy to search? You're that intellectually lazy?

where are they?!?!?!?!??!

I don't see them, but it's late so I may be missing them. Please point them out.

They aren't there. Fark ate the post apparently. He said to google her name, and I did, but I don't see a PDF on the first page, and I'm not going to go did through her website. Religious right webpages give me the hives.

RevMercutio: PascalsGhost:

Didn't that feel better? Just let the lies flow off your chest like a heavy weight?

There you go big guy....

Did I lie? No. Was I mistaken? Probably. Have you been an absolute twat in this thread? Absolutely.

That's just one difference between you and me.

Well, that and I'd rather admit I was wrong about some obscure political fact than make an asshole of myself with a web of repeated lies.

Fark teaches a man that men will do anything not to admit being wrong. Never ceases to amaze me.

martin luther king jr voted for extra terrestrials.

PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost:

Didn't that feel better? Just let the lies flow off your chest like a heavy weight?

There you go big guy....

Did I lie? No. Was I mistaken? Probably. Have you been an absolute twat in this thread? Absolutely.

That's just one difference between you and me.

Well, that and I'd rather admit I was wrong about some obscure political fact than make an asshole of myself with a web of repeated lies.

Fark teaches a man that men will do anything not to admit being wrong. Never ceases to amaze me.

I've admitted being wrong earlier about my links being up. I admit the possibility of the theory being wrong in the POST YOU JUST QUOTED. It appears now that the most relevant thing to the discussion is how much of an asshole you are.

"fark off" seems like more the proper answer to you, the more you post.

I'm sure the Democrat Party will get right on that.

erveek: I'm sure the Democrat Party will get right on that.

First the Whigs gotta apologize to the Injuns. =D

CanisNoir:

And so does Zo (new window)

Please tell me you linked that ironically.

Helen_Arigby: /
A WASP is a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, actually. But whatever.

Actually, I like White, Angry, Southern Protestant better. White Anglo-Saxon is... not technically redundant, but it doesn't pack the same punch. It's a dumb saying anyway, so why not mess around with it?

There are lots of white's who are neither Anglo-Saxon nor Protestant.

I really don't care except to say that your handle is pretty goddamn awesome.

PascalsGhost: LOL, here

Link (new window)

Get ready for the study to blow your hair back before you click. You won't believe the front page.

House of Tards: Please tell me you linked that ironically.

Aside from the massive Godwin in the middle of his rant, I thought he was kind of to the point. I have to admit, I enjoy the hell out of his video's though. I linked it as an example of a Black Republican because people tend to treat them like Big Foot; you hear stories but never see visual proof that they exist ;)

More ZO (new window)

If there's anybody who has no business pointing their finger at anyone else, and self-righteously shouting "racist!", it's a member of the species Homo Sapiens.
Get real with yourselves, folks. Deeep down at the bottom of our souls, in the back of our brains, we are all "racist", or "tribalist", or "xenophobic", if you prefer. Whenever you, I, or anyone else sees another human being who is notably different from ourselves, our deepest, most hard-wired, and most heartfelt impulse is to kill them. This is what we are - savage, murderous, tribal killer apes.
If we weren't, we would still be scurrying around the veldts and jungles of Africa like our closest cousins - we are just a lot better at it than they are.
Trouble is, what was once a garantor of our survival has now become a liability - we got sticks and stones now that can break the whole world.
If we wish to live and become civilized beings, we must change ourselves. And to change ourselves, we must know ourselves - don't buy that "you have to be carefully taught" bullshiat. Human beings don't have to be taught hatred, racism, and xenophobia - it's in us. The challenge is to suppress it with reason, sublimate it to constructive purposes, and ultimately eliminate the impact it has on the way we behave and live.
But that's going to require some serious self-honesty on mankind's part - and I'm not holding my breath.

brainiac-dumdum: randomjsa: Oh I'm sorry, did you get in to your limited little minds that the Democrats were and always have been great heroes of minorities? Go look up certain quotes from Lyndon Johnson and then come back here.

Your vaunted Reagan was no better, maybe worse because his inner racist was clearly reveled though his actions



So Reagan was a racist?

brainiac-dumdum: Lincoln was the original RINO



...and Lincoln was a RINO?


OK.


lemme guess... Carter was actually great and was just misunderstood.

jso2897: Whenever you, I, or anyone else sees another human being who is notably different from ourselves, our deepest, most hard-wired, and most heartfelt impulse is to kill them. This is what we are - savage, murderous, tribal killer apes.



Wow... can't we just be dicks, pussies and assholes?

Phil Herup: jso2897: Whenever you, I, or anyone else sees another human being who is notably different from ourselves, our deepest, most hard-wired, and most heartfelt impulse is to kill them. This is what we are - savage, murderous, tribal killer apes.



Wow... can't we just be dicks, pussies and assholes?

Only on the internet.

PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: Fart_Machine: RevMercutio: Who voted Republican until 1960. Was Republicanism socialist as well?

Did you look up the reference I gave you? That's OK. I'll wait.

I did (Note to PascalsGhost, this is how you actually debate) now. I see that we're speaking to distinct different timeframes, though.

I have no idea what you posted.

Then read again. I put in two links. Other people said the SAME EXACT THING. Yet I'm the one you called an idiot.

You're just as bad as the dipshiats on the right, congratulations on sinking to their level and celebrating your ignorance.

I challenge you to show me were you posted a single thing in this thread. Seriously.

You challenge me to find links I put in that you're too lazy to search? You're that intellectually lazy?

While you're waiting...

I looked. You posted no links. You are lying.

HighOnCraic: These are the same people that argue that Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. He actually supported Eisenhower--the last Republican to get elected while losing heavily in the Deep South--and stayed neutral in the Kennedy vs. Nixon election, and lambasted Republicans for nominating Goldwater.


Why don't you call him names too? Seeing as he said the same thing.

He is wrong. MLK never endorsed Ike. Never. Not even a little.

Again, provide me a link. There isn't one.

Do you understand, you aren't arguing with me anymore, you are arguing with recorded history.

Not exactly an endorsement, but:

Letter from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. to President Dwight Eisenhower:

5 November 1957

Montgomery, Ala.

Honorable Dwight D. Eisenhower

White House

Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr. President:

The Southern Christian Leadership Conference in session at Memphis, in the state of Tennessee, extends its warmest commendation for the positive and forthright stand that you have taken in the Little Rock school situation. You have shown to the nation and the world that the United States is a nation dedicated to law and order rather than mob rule. In an hour so charged with the tragic possibility of world conflict, America can ill afford to be guilty of sins against her own way of life.

It is regrettable that by intransigence and irresponsibility, the governor and irresponsible elements of the state made it necessary for the use of troops to guarantee the rights of citizenship to Negroes in Little Rock. But the law of this land must be enforced or the result will be anarchy. The irresponsibility and intransigence of public officials must be countered by the stern determination of the chief executive to secure for all citizens the blessings of first-class citizenship.

As regrettable as it is, however, that federal troops were necessary, they must remain until there is every evidence that state and municipal officials in Arkansas will respect and enforce the decrees of the federal court. We, therefore, urge you, Mr. President, to keep troops in Little Rock until it is possible for Negro children to attend school freely without the threat of physical or psychological violence.

Little Rock points a dramatic finger to the urgent necessity for the President to confer with Negro leaders from across the nation. Men and women of good will, both black and white, look for Presidential guidance in solving the problem created by the breakdown of communications between the races in the South. By meeting with Negro leaders as soon as it is conveniently possible, the President will do much to give heart and courage to white people of good will who remain silent when their voices are needed.

We find reason to hope that the civil rights commission that is called for in the recent Civil Rights bill will do much to remove existing inequities in voting in the South. Yet, the time is passing and the effectiveness of the commission is being diminished in proportion to the time that is allowed to pass before the appointment of the commission. It is urgent that this commission be appointed immediately. We further urge you, Mr. President, to include on this commission two qualified Negroes of whom one should be from the South.

May the richest blessings of almighty God continue to be yours,

Sincerely,

Martin Luther King, Jr.

President (Southern Christian Leadership Conference)

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Haha, wow, so many people jumping on me for my comment about Lyndon Johnson that I can't even quote them all. I do appreciate how you assume I'm "ignorant" or using a "bad example" when I say that Democrats are hardly the heroes of minorities that you make them out to be.

But if you insist: "I'll have those n****** voting Democratic for the next 200 years." Lyndon B Johnson

So you can quit pretending Johnson was some great hero, or that he wasn't a racist. Because his actions were calculated.

There was a time when Republicans favored using Federal power to end segregation. Today, the two main parties are pretty much the opposite of what they were back then.

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randomjsa: Haha, wow, so many people jumping on me for my comment about Lyndon Johnson that I can't even quote them all. I do appreciate how you assume I'm "ignorant" or using a "bad example" when I say that Democrats are hardly the heroes of minorities that you make them out to be.

But if you insist: "I'll have those n****** voting Democratic for the next 200 years." Lyndon B Johnson

So you can quit pretending Johnson was some great hero, or that he wasn't a racist. Because his actions were calculated.

Speaking of calculated actions:

"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."

I don't know what's funnier... RevMercutio's stubborn refusal to admit that he was making stuff up and that his feeling are hurt so he's not going to post his sources, or PascalsGhost being a skeptical troll and challenging everyone who says anything nice about the Republicans.

Either way, this thread has been a lot of fun to read.

Can one oppose reparations, entitlements, quotas, AA and voting for BHO solely because we've never had a black president and not be racist?

L82DPRT: Can one oppose reparations, entitlements, quotas, AA and voting for BHO solely because we've never had a black president and not be racist?



Yes... until you said one voted for him solely b/c he was black... so that is still racist.

randomjsa: Haha, wow, so many people jumping on me for my comment about Lyndon Johnson that I can't even quote them all. I do appreciate how you assume I'm "ignorant" or using a "bad example" when I say that Democrats are hardly the heroes of minorities that you make them out to be.

But if you insist: "I'll have those n****** voting Democratic for the next 200 years." Lyndon B Johnson

So you can quit pretending Johnson was some great hero, or that he wasn't a racist. Because his actions were calculated.

LBJ an HERO? Give me a break - I've got no use for the sonofabiatch whatsoever. Not only did he start the bogus "war on" meme, he tried to get me killed (and damn near succeeded).
Fark him.

as soon as you see the noun democrat used as an adjective - you just know you're in a shiatstorm of mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging wharrgarbl.

you 23 percenters really need to stop telegraphing your bullshiat like this.

MFL: brainiac-dumdum Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Belgium, and Switzerland will be surprised to hear about this

They will also be surpised that none of them have a GDP larger than New Jersey.

New Jersey GDP per capita: 49,511

Norway GDP per capita: 53,300

Try again.

jso2897: LBJ an HERO? Give me a break - I've got no use for the sonofabiatch whatsoever.

Approves

Maybe these black republicans are upset because of the fact that they're Truly a minority group. With minor intellect, minor brains, and minor comprehension of what they really are.

secularsage: I don't know what's funnier... RevMercutio's stubborn refusal to admit that he was making stuff up

Not actually true. I posted my sources, they got eaten, and decided not to post them again.

Stay Cool Babylon: That's a powerful incentive to join a bunch of seriously stodgy white guys who would probably be nervous if a real live black person offered them a stick of gum.

Stick your prejudice up your ass where it belongs. People like you are the reason racism won't die.

Sabyen91: Being white doesn't mean you don't understand that being born white is an advantage.

Being born white is a responsibility, any advantage disappeared decades ago.

The birth of the modern Democratic party was the day they realized it was cheaper to suppress the poor minorities by tossing out table scraps than it was to beat them in the street with dogs and water hoses.

Hoopido: Stay Cool Babylon: That's a powerful incentive to join a bunch of seriously stodgy white guys who would probably be nervous if a real live black person offered them a stick of gum.

Stick your prejudice up your ass where it belongs. People like you are the reason racism won't die.

Heh this of course coming from the guy who constantly says racist shiat on fark. Shut up you moronic hypocrite.

evilboyevil: They're black republicans. Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

So you saying that Black Republicans are dumber than their white counterparts?

You sir are a despicable racist.

/see how easy it is to turn that around?