The modern parties have very little in common with what they were before civil rights and during the civil war.


You WERE the party of Lincoln. Now you are provably the party of white southerners and religious morons.

crab66: You WERE the party of Lincoln. Now you are provably the party of white southerners and religious morons.

Lincoln was the original RINO

MFL: PascalsGhost The best minds in every country in the world fight to get to go to a U.S. University. Their faculty, facilities, and level of education is unparalleled. This is such a basic reality that your intense partisan buffoonery must really blind you as an American to BASH them rather than be PROUD of them.

lol

At the university level, we do have the best...but we pay out our asses for it and it would not exist if we didn't have a free market economy that allows us to afford it. Being the richest nation on the planet allows us to provide these wonderful universities for many of our nations best and brightest to make 6 figures working 15 hours a week to live inside their own head.


So you were full of shiat, yes? Our University is a huge success.

Are you now claiming our University systems don't heavliy contribute to our economy? REALLY?

Bottom line is that our capitalist system has creates enough wealth to allow a socialistic educational system that is as financially inefficient as ours is to still be the envy of the world. We are that farking rich as a country.

You have no data whatsoever that our University system is financially inefficient. None. None at all. You NEED this to be true because Hannity told you Universities are full of communists.

Why not? Why not rant about anything you can make up or imagine? You aren't base din reality anyway, why not rant? nobody respects your views, you are at least comic fodder.

Huh? Why not? This country is in deep shiat in large part because many people didn't know basics on how to manage their money.

This is whose fault?

you think the banking system collapsed because of average people no being able to balance a budget? Wow, dumbass.


Public schools were too busy preaching that we wouldn't be able to go outside in the year 2000 because hairspray was depleating the ozone that they didn't have time to teach what an APR is or how a mortgage works.

This simply isn't even worth responding to.

LOL, kill yourself dude. I sometimes think you are trolling, but if you are really this bad, you are a negative force of humanity and your country. Take a bullet for the team son.

Seriously dude...that says more about you than it does me.


No, its says tons about you. Again, your complete fantasy induced partisan whackjobbery won't allow you to appreciate the simple reality that your OWN COUNTRY is the educator of the bases student all the way to the elite minds of the world. There are few greater successes in the modern world much greater than the US university system.

But your politics are more important than your country. You could be a good little rightwinger and still appreciate the Universities, but you can't even do that.

You hate imagined socialism or "libruls" more than you love your country. This is true of many people, and I feel sorry for you.

But it does make you worse than worthless. Eat a shell. make room for somebody who deserves what America gave you ingrate.

PascalsGhost: Are you now claiming our University systems don't heavliy contribute to our economy? REALLY?

not to mention they provide valuable research in a variety of fields.

MFL: Being the richest nation on the planet allows us to provide these wonderful universities for many of our nations best and brightest to make 6 figures working 15 hours a week to live inside their own head.

Yup. That's exactly what's happening.

Once again: OH WAIT, NO IT ISN'T. (new window) Damn those pesky facts, getting in the way of a good argument!

brainiac-dumdum: PascalsGhost: Are you now claiming our University systems don't heavliy contribute to our economy? REALLY?

not to mention they provide valuable research in a variety of fields.

TONS. They've directly improve everybody's day to day life in powerful ways.

To have so much partisan hate and fear that you can't, as an American, love and be proud of that must just rot your brain.

No wonder MFL is so goddamned full of shiat. I mean, this thread has been a window into his soul. Amazing.

dems actually used to be the racist ones, they're not anymore.

/anyone else find it ironic when people, mad at other people for making gross generalizations, accuse a large class of other people of some act, paying no heed to whether or not the allegation is true on a case-by-case basis?

MFL: Being the richest nation on the planet allows us to provide these wonderful universities for many of our nations best and brightest to make 6 figures working 15 hours a week to live inside their own head.

Wahh! Americans are lazy and stupid!

LOL, you don't love your country dude. You love your politics, that's all. Inside you'd love to see a nuke hit just to make Obama and the libs look bad. You'd rather the country fall than go to the left.

You are a horrible, horrible human being.

PascalsGhost: MFL: Being the richest nation on the planet allows us to provide these wonderful universities for many of our nations best and brightest to make 6 figures working 15 hours a week to live inside their own head.

Wahh! Americans are lazy and stupid!

LOL, you don't love your country dude. You love your politics, that's all. Inside you'd love to see a nuke hit just to make Obama and the libs look bad. You'd rather the country fall than go to the left.

You are a horrible, horrible human being.

And you still think name calling makes you the winner of a debate, I see.

RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: MFL: Being the richest nation on the planet allows us to provide these wonderful universities for many of our nations best and brightest to make 6 figures working 15 hours a week to live inside their own head.

Wahh! Americans are lazy and stupid!

LOL, you don't love your country dude. You love your politics, that's all. Inside you'd love to see a nuke hit just to make Obama and the libs look bad. You'd rather the country fall than go to the left.

You are a horrible, horrible human being.

And you still think name calling makes you the winner of a debate, I see.

No, you failing to give me proof of King ever voting or being a Republican make me the winner.

I'm honest about MFL. What a horrible way to look at the world.

MFL
Life doesn't have to be reduced to how much money one can rake in, you know.

No, but when you are talking about an economy that's the best way to keep score.

You guys keep using these socialist countries for examples of success but most of them don't have an economy that is even a fraction of the size of the United states. There is a reason the US is only 4% of the world's population and is over 20% of the world's GDP.

MFL: MFL
Life doesn't have to be reduced to how much money one can rake in, you know.

No, but when you are talking about an economy that's the best way to keep score.

You guys keep using these socialist countries for examples of success but most of them don't have an economy that is even a fraction of the size of the United states. There is a reason the US is only 4% of the world's population and is over 20% of the world's GDP.

Patriotic people like you!

MFL: You guys keep using these socialist countries for examples of success but most of them don't have an economy that is even a fraction of the size of the United states. There is a reason the US is only 4% of the world's population and is over 20% of the world's GDP.

So we are talking per capita GDP!

Norway's is higher than the US.

MFL: MFL
Life doesn't have to be reduced to how much money one can rake in, you know.

No, but when you are talking about an economy that's the best way to keep score.

You guys keep using these socialist countries for examples of success but most of them don't have an economy that is even a fraction of the size of the United states. There is a reason the US is only 4% of the world's population and is over 20% of the world's GDP.


We have 20% of the worlds GDP and yet we still let people starve and be homeless. We spend millions on a dieing individual instead of providing basic care for thousands of people.

You are a farking moron. GDP is a retarded way to measure "success".

RevMercutio: And you still think name calling makes you the winner of a debate, I see.

PascalsGhost: You are a horrible, horrible human being.

I second that emotion

MFL: No, but when you are talking about an economy that's the best way to keep score.

What about quality of life? The quality of life index puts the US in the top three. (new window) Right below Switzerland. More on how they reached those conclusions here. (new window)

MFL: No, but when you are talking about an economy that's the best way to keep score.

that would be purchasing power parity actually

"National Black Republican Association calls on Democrat Party to apologize for racism"

Wow. Michael Steele, NBRA, do they think people are retarded?

Great Metal Jesus: MFL: No, but when you are talking about an economy that's the best way to keep score.

What about quality of life? The quality of life index puts the US in the top three. (new window) Right below Switzerland. More on how they reached those conclusions here. (new window)

Wanna read that tomorrow and see what is up, cause I have no idea how France can be number 1. The country and culture is going to Hell in a hand basket. Big time.

PascalsGhost

Yeah, the list may not exactly be spot-on. My overall point is more that there are other valid ways to measure national success than strictly money and the US isn't head and shoulders above everyone else in every aspect. If the population is happier as a whole, who cares who has the biggest GDP?

I have a feeling I'm wasting my breath, though.

crab66 We have 20% of the worlds GDP and yet we still let people starve and be homeless. We spend millions on a dieing individual instead of providing basic care for thousands of people.

Starving? Who are you crappin? We are the only country in the world where obesity is synonymous with poverty. We have the fattest poor people in the world.

PascalsGhost: No, you failing to give me proof of King ever voting or being a Republican make me the winner.


I actually posted two examples, and another by his niece got eaten up. Compare that to your NONE. I offered proof. You offered nothing to disprove it but insults like a child.

So how'd you win, exactly?

Great Metal JesusWhat about quality of life? The quality of life index puts the US in the top three. (new window)


France is #1 on that study...Go figure.

Fart_Machine: RevMercutio: Who voted Republican until 1960. Was Republicanism socialist as well?

Did you look up the reference I gave you? That's OK. I'll wait.

I did (Note to PascalsGhost, this is how you actually debate) now. I see that we're speaking to distinct different timeframes, though.

RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: No, you failing to give me proof of King ever voting or being a Republican make me the winner.


I actually posted two examples, and another by his niece got eaten up. Compare that to your NONE. I offered proof. You offered nothing to disprove it but insults like a child.

So how'd you win, exactly?

Dude, you posted no evidence King ever voted Republican in this thread. WTF are you talking about?

None. Nowhere. Go look. You know why? And this is my only point when I asked it earlier, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NONE. Not one bit. His dad voted Republican. That's it. Could I believe he voted Republican prior to 1960? Yes, its sounds truthy and would make sense, but there exists absolutely no evidence of him ever voting, registering, or endorsing Republican. NONE.

Again, if there was, it would be on the front page of Fox daily. I have no idea what you are saying you posted, but, eh.

RevMercutio: Fart_Machine: RevMercutio: Who voted Republican until 1960. Was Republicanism socialist as well?

Did you look up the reference I gave you? That's OK. I'll wait.

I did (Note to PascalsGhost, this is how you actually debate) now. I see that we're speaking to distinct different timeframes, though.

I have no idea what you posted.

MFL: crab66 We have 20% of the worlds GDP and yet we still let people starve and be homeless. We spend millions on a dieing individual instead of providing basic care for thousands of people.

Starving? Who are you crappin? We are the only country in the world where obesity is synonymous with poverty. We have the fattest poor people in the world.

Do you know why poor people are fat in this country?

They eat food that has less nutritional value than what Africans eat. Just so corporations can make a buck.

Here's the thing: It doesn't matter what King voted for before 1960. The parties before then were not the parties we know now, and any attempt to try to compare the parties before the Civil Rights Act and Southern Strategy and after is the mark of a moron.

Also, King was from Georgia, and I'd imagine any democrat in the running was a racist asshole. I'd vote for a Republican too, even if I disagreed with every policy he had, if he was the only other choice and was not a racist while his opponent was.

So, please, stop the stupid argument. The point is, King, at least the King we know from his speeches and political activism, could never be thought of as a conservative. He advocated policies to combat poverty that make Obama look like Ronald Reagan.

And if he had not been assassinated and was still alive and advocating those policies, he would be written off by right wingers as a liberal kook on the level of Noam Chomsky, and a race baiter.

RevMercutio: OgreMagi: AirForceVet: OK, I admit I didn't read the headline AND the article slow enough to catch the request was from the National Black REPUBLICAN Association.

I humbly withdraw my previous post, go hide in the corner.

So when you thought other democrats were making the demand, you were all for it because it "sounds like a reasonable request".

How is it any less reasonable if someone else asks it?

When they're a party that's embraced racism for a few decades, for example.

So the democratic party. The party of the KKK. The party that fought the civil rights bill with a filibuster.

Yeah, they should apologize.

RemyDuron: And if he had not been assassinated and was still alive and advocating those policies, he would be written off by right wingers as a liberal kook on the level of Noam Chomsky, and a race baiter..

THIS.

King pushed for reparations of 50 billion over 10 years, publicly and on the record.

Goodnight.

OgreMagi: So the democratic party. The party of the KKK. The party that fought the civil rights bill with a filibuster.

Yeah, they should apologize.

You are either being intentionally obtuse or you are a moron. You know it was a Democratic president who made it get passed and signed it right? You know the following Republican president pandered to those Democratic racists who were pissed off at the party for supporting civil rights, right? You know the democrats have ever sense been by far the more committed to civil rights, right?

I mean, you did, at one point, have a US history class? I don't know about your socialist school, but my socialist school made us take that.

PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: Fart_Machine: RevMercutio: Who voted Republican until 1960. Was Republicanism socialist as well?

Did you look up the reference I gave you? That's OK. I'll wait.

I did (Note to PascalsGhost, this is how you actually debate) now. I see that we're speaking to distinct different timeframes, though.

I have no idea what you posted.

Then read again. I put in two links. Other people said the SAME EXACT THING. Yet I'm the one you called an idiot.

You're just as bad as the dipshiats on the right, congratulations on sinking to their level and celebrating your ignorance.

OgreMagi: RevMercutio: OgreMagi: AirForceVet: OK, I admit I didn't read the headline AND the article slow enough to catch the request was from the National Black REPUBLICAN Association.

I humbly withdraw my previous post, go hide in the corner.

So when you thought other democrats were making the demand, you were all for it because it "sounds like a reasonable request".

How is it any less reasonable if someone else asks it?

When they're a party that's embraced racism for a few decades, for example.

So the democratic party. The party of the KKK. The party that fought the civil rights bill with a filibuster.

Yeah, they should apologize.

What makes you think they didn't? You're 60 years too late to the party there, sport.

OgreMagi: So the democratic party. The party of the KKK.

The KKK was non-partisan. Republican Klan all over the place.


The party that fought the civil rights bill with a filibuster.

1964. I'm just saying, who do you think people that aren't 60 look at as the racist party?

OgreMagi: RevMercutio: OgreMagi: AirForceVet: OK, I admit I didn't read the headline AND the article slow enough to catch the request was from the National Black REPUBLICAN Association.

I humbly withdraw my previous post, go hide in the corner.

So when you thought other democrats were making the demand, you were all for it because it "sounds like a reasonable request".

How is it any less reasonable if someone else asks it?

When they're a party that's embraced racism for a few decades, for example.

So the democratic party. The party of the KKK. The party that fought the civil rights bill with a filibuster.

Yeah, they should apologize.

Absolute failure. Try again.

RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: Fart_Machine: RevMercutio: Who voted Republican until 1960. Was Republicanism socialist as well?

Did you look up the reference I gave you? That's OK. I'll wait.

I did (Note to PascalsGhost, this is how you actually debate) now. I see that we're speaking to distinct different timeframes, though.

I have no idea what you posted.

Then read again. I put in two links. Other people said the SAME EXACT THING. Yet I'm the one you called an idiot.

You're just as bad as the dipshiats on the right, congratulations on sinking to their level and celebrating your ignorance.

I challenge you to show me were you posted a single thing in this thread. Seriously.

RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: No, you failing to give me proof of King ever voting or being a Republican make me the winner.


I actually posted two examples, and another by his niece got eaten up. Compare that to your NONE. I offered proof. You offered nothing to disprove it but insults like a child.

So how'd you win, exactly?

You are arguing with a troll. You could special delivery your proof to him in a gold plated box and he'd still say you haven't offered any proof. Name calling is the only way he debates. He's a typical socialist/communist troll. Lot's of noise, no substance.

Here's a recommendation. Go stand facing a wall. State your arguments. Carefully consider the wall's retort. You'll actually have a more productive debate since you get to avoid the name calling. There's also a bonus. The wall is much more intelligent than PascalsGhost.

crab66 Do you know why poor people are fat in this country?

They eat food that has less nutritional value than what Africans eat. Just so corporations can make a buck.

1. All Africans aren't what you see on National Geographic. Some of them are quite rich.

2. Many poor people in this country are lazy and like Big Mac's. It's not the best way to live but it's better than eating bugs and pissing blood because you're malnurished.

3. If McDonalds was healthy the poor wouldn't be able to afford it. A cheesburger off the dollar menu is better than nothing at all.

4. Corporations are a good thing. When they make a buck so do the people that own their stock.

RemyDuron: Here's the thing: It doesn't matter what King voted for before 1960. The parties before then were not the parties we know now, and any attempt to try to compare the parties before the Civil Rights Act and Southern Strategy and after is the mark of a moron.

Also very true. But when the line gets used, and idiots like PascalsGhost resort to name-calling bullshiat rather than actually look into the whole picture, they lose the ability to remove any power the statement has.

We need to look at the whole picture, not just the parts that line up with your narrow worldview. That's just one thing that seperates the intelligent people from the Beckheads.

One, I can't find a single link you posted in this thread, and two, if you have proof King voted, endorsed, or registered Republican, you can make a LOT of money.

some RevMercutio: Note to PascalsGhost, this is how you actually debate

you have to understand that it's difficult, if not impossible, to debate those who are befuddled and anger-ridden.

crab66: OgreMagi: RevMercutio: OgreMagi: AirForceVet: OK, I admit I didn't read the headline AND the article slow enough to catch the request was from the National Black REPUBLICAN Association.

I humbly withdraw my previous post, go hide in the corner.

So when you thought other democrats were making the demand, you were all for it because it "sounds like a reasonable request".

How is it any less reasonable if someone else asks it?

When they're a party that's embraced racism for a few decades, for example.

So the democratic party. The party of the KKK. The party that fought the civil rights bill with a filibuster.

Yeah, they should apologize.

Absolute failure. Try again.

How about you go take an introductory course to logic. Perhaps then you will be able to spot the mistake you made. Alternately, go fark yourself. Your choice. I'm done.

OgreMagi: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: No, you failing to give me proof of King ever voting or being a Republican make me the winner.


I actually posted two examples, and another by his niece got eaten up. Compare that to your NONE. I offered proof. You offered nothing to disprove it but insults like a child.

So how'd you win, exactly?

You are arguing with a troll. You could special delivery your proof to him in a gold plated box and he'd still say you haven't offered any proof. Name calling is the only way he debates. He's a typical socialist/communist troll. Lot's of noise, no substance.

Here's a recommendation. Go stand facing a wall. State your arguments. Carefully consider the wall's retort. You'll actually have a more productive debate since you get to avoid the name calling. There's also a bonus. The wall is much more intelligent than PascalsGhost.

There are no links.


RevMercutio: RemyDuron: Here's the thing: It doesn't matter what King voted for before 1960. The parties before then were not the parties we know now, and any attempt to try to compare the parties before the Civil Rights Act and Southern Strategy and after is the mark of a moron.

Also very true. But when the line gets used, and idiots like PascalsGhost resort to name-calling bullshiat rather than actually look into the whole picture, they lose the ability to remove any power the statement has.

We need to look at the whole picture, not just the parts that line up with your narrow worldview. That's just one thing that seperates the intelligent people from the Beckheads.

There are no links. You can end this by simply pointing them out to me.

MFL: crab66 Do you know why poor people are fat in this country?

They eat food that has less nutritional value than what Africans eat. Just so corporations can make a buck.

1. All Africans aren't what you see on National Geographic. Some of them are quite rich.

2. Many poor people in this country are lazy and like Big Mac's. It's not the best way to live but it's better than eating bugs and pissing blood because you're malnurished.

3. If McDonalds was healthy the poor wouldn't be able to afford it. A cheesburger off the dollar menu is better than nothing at all.

4. Corporations are a good thing. When they make a buck so do the people that own their stock.

Wrong on all counts.

PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: PascalsGhost: RevMercutio: Fart_Machine: RevMercutio: Who voted Republican until 1960. Was Republicanism socialist as well?

Did you look up the reference I gave you? That's OK. I'll wait.

I did (Note to PascalsGhost, this is how you actually debate) now. I see that we're speaking to distinct different timeframes, though.

I have no idea what you posted.

Then read again. I put in two links. Other people said the SAME EXACT THING. Yet I'm the one you called an idiot.

You're just as bad as the dipshiats on the right, congratulations on sinking to their level and celebrating your ignorance.

I challenge you to show me were you posted a single thing in this thread. Seriously.

You challenge me to find links I put in that you're too lazy to search? You're that intellectually lazy?

While you're waiting...

HighOnCraic: These are the same people that argue that Martin Luther King, Jr. was a Republican. He actually supported Eisenhower--the last Republican to get elected while losing heavily in the Deep South--and stayed neutral in the Kennedy vs. Nixon election, and lambasted Republicans for nominating Goldwater.

As long as you stop reading history after the mid-Sixties, they have a point.

Why don't you call him names too? Seeing as he said the same thing.

OgreMagi: He's a typical socialist/communist troll.

Jesus Christ the stupid. It's 2009, only socialist is an approved sheep villain word. Communism is off the list. Terrorist would work to.

crab66: MFL: crab66 Do you know why poor people are fat in this country?

They eat food that has less nutritional value than what Africans eat. Just so corporations can make a buck.

1. All Africans aren't what you see on National Geographic. Some of them are quite rich.

2. Many poor people in this country are lazy and like Big Mac's. It's not the best way to live but it's better than eating bugs and pissing blood because you're malnurished.

3. If McDonalds was healthy the poor wouldn't be able to afford it. A cheesburger off the dollar menu is better than nothing at all.

4. Corporations are a good thing. When they make a buck so do the people that own their stock.

Wrong on all counts.

Now we know you are trolling.

OgreMagi: crab66: MFL: crab66 Do you know why poor people are fat in this country?

They eat food that has less nutritional value than what Africans eat. Just so corporations can make a buck.

1. All Africans aren't what you see on National Geographic. Some of them are quite rich.

2. Many poor people in this country are lazy and like Big Mac's. It's not the best way to live but it's better than eating bugs and pissing blood because you're malnurished.

3. If McDonalds was healthy the poor wouldn't be able to afford it. A cheesburger off the dollar menu is better than nothing at all.

4. Corporations are a good thing. When they make a buck so do the people that own their stock.

Wrong on all counts.

Now we know you are trolling.

We already knew you were trolling.