Madoff's wife is now "available?" Yes, no?

Sometimes I catch myself feeling a little bad for this woman. Then I stop.

Good.

Assholes.

Pocket Ninja: Sometimes I catch myself feeling a little bad for this woman. Then I stop.

Pretty much.

Dear Penthouse...

Hopefully they tazered that coont out the door.

Just waiting for the Feds to go after congress for Social Security,

/which makes Madoff's scheme look like shoplifting.

YOU DON"T STEAL FROM RICH PEOPLE!!!

/the lesson to be learned from this.

Bravo FEDs, Bravo.

Pocket Ninja: SometimesOnce I caught myself feeling a little bad for this woman. Then I stopped.

FTFY.

/seriously, once, for one tiny fraction of a moment I felt sorry for her
//then I stopped, and laughed

So apparently free market capitalism is punishable by 150 years in jail these days...

/in Obama America

I hope they at least let her get her toothbrush. Maybe some pj's. Enough for human dignity. They could have supervised what she took and made sure it was just basics.

Don't like it when anyone gets treated like this.

Am I the only one more pissed off at the SEC than at Madoff?

I'm so happy I could post tits.

YoungSwedishBlonde: So apparently free market capitalism is punishable by 150 years in jail these days...

/in Obama America

You are the worst troll I've ever seen.

She's lucky they didn't bash down the door with a battering ram and shoot her in the back, that's the way the Feds usually do it.

Kick her in the box and shove her.

Hiro's Protagonist: Am I the only one more pissed off at the SEC than at Madoff?

No.

YoungSwedishBlonde: So apparently free market capitalism is punishable by 150 years in jail these days...

/in Obama America

1/10

Your troll-fu is weak.
Watch.
Listen.
Learn.

Hermione_Granger: I hope they at least let her get her toothbrush. Maybe some pj's. Enough for human dignity. They could have supervised what she took and made sure it was just basics.

Don't like it when anyone gets treated like this.

She'd been notified 48 hrs prior. Plenty of time to get her shiat out of there. She was trying to take stuff that wasn't on the approved list.

YoungSwedishBlonde: So apparently free market capitalism fraud and grand larceny is punishable by 150 years in jail these days...

/in Obama America

FTFY. It's a common typo. The keys are like right next to each other.



/The biatch deserves to be bunking with a fat bulldyke named Bertha for the next 25-to-life

FTFA: Ruth Madoff broke her silence Monday when she said in a statement that her husband "stunned us all with his confession and is responsible for this terrible situation in which so many now find themselves."

Don't give me that "Babe in the woods" routine Karen Ruth.

Except for that $2.5 million.

Pretty sure they let her keep that.

But officers, that's the door to the patio.

Hermione_Granger: I hope they at least let her get her toothbrush. Maybe some pj's. Enough for human dignity.

Don't like it when anyone gets treated like this.

Yes, I mean she's had decades of the finest things money could buy and all she had to do was be a good girl and keep her eyes and mouth shut about the true costs of the finest things. You know, all those other people who killed themselves in disgrace or lost all of their money. That cost.

She should be happy that there is no true justice or her pampered white ass would be rendered into dog soap.

/no sympathy. i can just imagine the sort of opinions this harpie was spewing about us regular folks a few short months ago.

They ought to let Bernie out of jail, put him in charge of Social Security and pay him a royalty.

Bernie steals billions/gov't steals trillions, but look who's in jail?

Wrong_Intentions: You are the worst troll I've ever seen.

Hey, it's not Madoff's fault that his customers were too ignorant to learn better, amirite?

don't feed the dumbest/weakest of all trolls!
That was so stupid, that it smashed some old trolling records.



Also,
How is she gonna even survive on just 2.5 mil? the horror!

DBrandisNC: Except for that $2.5 million.

Pretty sure they let her keep that.

I came in to say this. FTFA:

Ruth Madoff agreed to give up all of her possessions in return for a promise that federal prosecutors would not pursue $2.5 million not tied to the fraud.

olddinosaur: They ought to let Bernie out of jail, put him in charge of Social Security and pay him a royalty.

Bernie steals billions/gov't steals trillions, but look who's in jail?

Madoff's scheme made him and a few close associates very rich. SS isn't making anyone rich...

Dear Lady you are just as much a pig as your husband. You fed at the trough, you wore the skins of others, human and animal. What makes you think we give a crap if you end up inside a cardboard box. Justsaying

mikemir: You are the worst troll I've ever seen.Seriously, they're not even trying anymore.

I know. Other than StopArrestingMe they've gotten so uncreatively awful that they're not even worth rating anymore.

Why does everyone want to shiat on Bernie Madoff's wife? She didn't do anything wrong as far as we know. If she had she would have been 1 of the people charged with crimes.

You guys are missing the most important part.

Who the hell pays 7 million dollars to live in that dump? And by dump I mean both the building and the whole farking city itself.

I can see where a fur coat would really be needed... seeing as how it is summer and all right now.

Wow. The troll in this thread is thick. Both headed and in quantity.

I demand to know how they laundered that 2.5 million so I can go into business with some friends people that a friend knows in the recreational pharmaceuticals business.

/She deserves NOTHING
//That 2.5 million should have been confiscated
///They confiscate businesses that launder drug money, it's the same goddamned principle!

About dang time.

Woke up one morning to see 7 squad cars lined up in front of the house at 6am. The feds and police were there to arrest my neighbor who was operating a mortgage fraud scheme. (ie: buy a dump, fix it up, put a buyer into it w/ falsified mtg application, out-of-state lender holds the title, owner defaults, whole thing comes unraveled)

The feds seized everything. (seized the leather pants off his partner at another location) His fiancee was out on her butt with a blanket over her shoulders and her dog in her arms.
By the end of the day, the house was completely empty.

Madoff deserves no better.

Meh, frog march her.
Not one ounce of sympathy for her or for most of those investors. They knew he was up to something. His returns were too perfect, too consistent. They just assumed he was insider trading, you know: cheating someone else and not them.

One of the sons probably has a summer home for her.

Anti Dog-Eat-Dog

/Rand

YoungSwedishBlonde: So apparently free market capitalism is punishable by 150 years in jail these days...

/in Obama America

Lots of bites. Nicely done.

Guess it would have been TOOOOOOO much to ask to do that BEFORE they hid everything,,,

olddinosaur: They ought to let Bernie out of jail, put him in charge of Social Security and pay him a royalty.

Bernie steals billions/gov't steals trillions, but look who's in jail?

Give it time. We're working our way up.

F*CK HER.

If I ever saw her walking down the street, I'd throw an egg at her... then steal her cart full of cans.

Cubansaltyballs: F*CK HER.

If I ever saw her walking down the street, I'd throw an egg at her... then steal her cart full of cans.

Don't waste food on her.

Throw a rock.

olddinosaur: They ought to let Bernie out of jail, put him in charge of Social Security and pay him a royalty.

Bernie steals billions/gov't steals trillions, but look who's in jail?

"And it was she who forfeited the furs last Friday as the publicly filed stipulation states."

Oh, BOO-HOO-HOOOOOOoooooo!!!

Sticky Hands: Cubansaltyballs: F*CK HER.

If I ever saw her walking down the street, I'd throw an egg at her... then steal her cart full of cans.

Don't waste food on her.

Throw a rock.

No. Then she'd just end up in the hospital to get stitches. If I threw an egg... she just have to walk around like that.

:)

YoungSwedishBlonde: So apparently free market capitalism is punishable by 150 years in jail these days...

/in Obama America

You know, I know you aren't usually a troll, and I know you were just trying to be funny, but that's the worst attempt at a troll I've seen in my life, and that's an auto-block

"She will be leaving," he said at midday. "Restitution for the victims government lawyers is the government's top priority."

Let's be real, people.

Excen: FTFY. It's a common typo. The keys are like right next to each other.

PLEASE don't feed the troll.

biatch should be working in a soup kitchen.

Many times you may hear that Old Money dislikes New Money, how is the Stink of any ill gotten money Okay? Again I am Justsaying

dreadprophet: Lots of bites. Nicely done.

;)

Don't steal, the Government HATES the competition.

Nice. Although, let's be real, there's still plenty of money in her family and she'll be quite all right for the rest of her life, a damn sight better off than any of us will be.

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: I'm so happy I could post tits.

How YOU doin?

But did they at least let him keep his Playboy?

shanrick: Madoff's wife is now "available?" Yes, no?

Well, she's never going to see her husband again outside of an observed meeting room.

Why we shiat on Mrs. Madoff:

1. Her first move is to try to claim a "Not Yours!" on about $70 MM in family money that she claims is "hers, and unrelated to the fraud". As if, well, there's one account for all the money we made "legitimately" that Ruth should be allowed to keep; and, there's another account (oddly empty) where the Madoff's stashed all the money we weren't supposed to make. FAIL.

2. Her second move, post quasi-confession of Bernie is to suddenly FedEx majillion$ worth of trinkets to relatives in FL. FAIL!

3. Her third move is to try to go about her usual life getting her hair colored, eating cobb salad and etc. in all the usu. high end 5th Ave places regardless of the fact that many of the other patrons there are also the victims of HER FAMILY! FAIL!!

4. Her fourth move is still to try to run off with fur coats and crap for herself. Now that the $70 MM won't fly, surely a $50,000 fur coat is just "little people money", right? FAIL!!!

Ruth, baby, wake up! Much as you want to claim how "shocked, I mean, shocked!!" you are that Bernie wasn't a superhumanly gifted asset manager, you walked in on his arm to who knows how many parties, you schmoozed the schmoozers, you cut the form, and you acted out the part of a woman who was married to a guy who was full of the most golden shiat. You were only the two legged "accessory" to his fraud, a little more than walnut paneling that talks. FAIL!!!!

In the process he raped and pillaged only about 1,000 of "your most intimate 'friends'", so fark you, Ruth if none of them ever want to see you ever again. You're lucky nobody [yet] put a Molotov in your dumbwaiter, biatch!

But Guccione already owns a Penthouse. Why'd he want another?

Ah, you farkers are showing you true colors. We have suggestions that she be stoned to death, egged in the streets, humiliated, and so on. What's next? Government sanctioned gang rape?

The fact is none of you little keyboard warriors would say a word to her in real life and envy in here is thick and disgusting. Stop pouting on the internet, leave this (innocent) woman alone, and go get a job.

See what happens when you steal from the rich?

I'm so tired. I read that as Bernie Mac's wife got thrown out and I was momentarily outraged.

They didn't even let her out of the building with the clothes on her back.

Fap.

iodine: Why we shiat on Mrs. Madoff:

1. Her first move is to try to claim a "Not Yours!" on about $70 MM in family money that she claims is "hers, and unrelated to the fraud". As if, well, there's one account for all the money we made "legitimately" that Ruth should be allowed to keep; and, there's another account (oddly empty) where the Madoff's stashed all the money we weren't supposed to make. FAIL.

2. Her second move, post quasi-confession of Bernie is to suddenly FedEx majillion$ worth of trinkets to relatives in FL. FAIL!

3. Her third move is to try to go about her usual life getting her hair colored, eating cobb salad and etc. in all the usu. high end 5th Ave places regardless of the fact that many of the other patrons there are also the victims of HER FAMILY! FAIL!!

4. Her fourth move is still to try to run off with fur coats and crap for herself. Now that the $70 MM won't fly, surely a $50,000 fur coat is just "little people money", right? FAIL!!!

Ruth, baby, wake up! Much as you want to claim how "shocked, I mean, shocked!!" you are that Bernie wasn't a superhumanly gifted asset manager, you walked in on his arm to who knows how many parties, you schmoozed the schmoozers, you cut the form, and you acted out the part of a woman who was married to a guy who was full of the most golden shiat. You were only the two legged "accessory" to his fraud, a little more than walnut paneling that talks. FAIL!!!!

In the process he raped and pillaged only about 1,000 of "your most intimate 'friends'", so fark you, Ruth if none of them ever want to see you ever again. You're lucky nobody [yet] put a Molotov in your dumbwaiter, biatch!

Damn! I only get to that level of vitriol when commenting about family members.

Ruth Madoff's future:

fireandashes36: YOU DON"T STEAL FROM RICH PEOPLE!!!

/the lesson to be learned from this.

Yep.

I dont get it, why / what did he do? All I understand is he ran a scheme of some sort and some people lost money. A summation in either interpretative dance or via star wars analogy would be much appreciated.

thevexationman: Ah, you farkers are showing you true colors. We have suggestions that she be stoned to death, egged in the streets, humiliated, and so on. What's next? Government sanctioned gang rape?

The fact is none of you little keyboard warriors would say a word to her in real life and envy in here is thick and disgusting. Stop pouting on the internet, leave this (innocent) woman alone, and go get a job.

7/10

Will she bounce back by doing a softcore porn television biopic of her story, becoming a reporter, working her way up through the ranks by sex and ambition, only to eventually become a tool of the Sentient AI?

/not terribly obscure
//guessing the porn wouldn't do well either

I don't get it. What's with all the hate for Ruth Madoff?

Meh. I'm OK with her getting out with $2.5 million.

As I understand it, Ruth Madoff was not involved in the scam. Maybe she suspected something dishonest was up, but with that much money coming in just about any human would end up in denial.

The investment income on $2.5M would be around $75K a year, I guess. Not too shabby (I wish I was pulling in that kind of money) but an amount that clearly leaves her in the middle class.

Forcing that old woman to move out of the penthouse and into whatever closet sized apartment one can make rent on in NYC on $75K a year is punishment enough.

Of course, she could move to Oklahoma and live pretty darn well on that amount, but that would mean living in _shudder Oklahoma.

Did they taste her tears?

FTFA:

Federal marshals seized disgraced financier Bernard Madoff's...

Why the fark do they call him "disgraced financier"?

That partially digested ball of haggis deserves nothing short of the word "thief" be used when mentioned by name.

/no offense meant to the various and glorious Scottish clans
//it's the partial digestion bit that does it, see?

It is very sad when the Rich take from the Rich. I really feel sorry for those that lost. Well not really, because every dime I make pays a service I agreed to. I do not gamble because I have nothing to gamble with. If they hedged their Extra money and lost then too bad. I cannot say I feel sorry for them. Justsaying

dreadprophet: YoungSwedishBlonde: So apparently free market capitalism is punishable by 150 years in jail these days...

/in Obama America

Lots of bites. Nicely done.

I thought the point was to convince people that you actually held a certain belief and weren't just trolling.

/Damn Farkistanis

nosajghoul: I dont get it, why / what did he do? All I understand is he ran a scheme of some sort and some people lost money. A summation in either interpretative dance or via star wars analogy would be much appreciated.

He took huge sums of money from investors, used that same money to pay "dividends" to other investors to make his business look legit, and pocketed the rest. Repeatedly.

YoungSwedishBlonde: So apparently free market capitalism is punishable by 150 years in jail these days...

/in Obama America

Shut up while adults are talking.

Sgt Otter: mikemir: You are the worst troll I've ever seen.Seriously, they're not even trying anymore.

I know. Other than StopArrestingMe they've gotten so uncreatively awful that they're not even worth rating anymore.

Ever since the Iran threads, they dried themselves. They out-trolled in an uncontrolled binge of trolling. It's depressing, really.

And here's a message to all these greedy bastards (new window).

nosajghoul: I dont get it, why / what did he do? All I understand is he ran a scheme of some sort and some people lost money. A summation in either interpretative dance or via star wars analogy would be much appreciated.

Senator Palpatine calls up Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala to tell them of an awesome investment retirement scheme. They each give him $100.

Palpatine's "fund" now has $200.

Palpatine then calls up Saesee Tiin, Kit Fisto, Mace Windu and Agen Kolar to tell them of his awesome scheme. They each give him $100.

Palpatine's "fund" now has $600. He pays Anakin and Amidala their original $100 investment plus $20 in "dividends," which was actually just money collected from Saesee Tiin, Kit Fisto, Mace Windu and Agen Kolar.

Palpatine's "fund" now has $360. He pays himself $20.

Palpatine's "fund" now has $340.

Palpatine then calls up Han Solo, Chewbacca, Yoda, Obi-Wan, Ki Adi Mundi and Bail Organa to tell them of his awesome scheme. They each give him $100.

Palpatine's "fund" now has $940. He pays Saesee Tiin, Kit Fisto, Mace Windu and Agen Kolar their original $100 investment plus $20 in "dividends."

Palpatine's "fund" now has $460. He pays Anakin and Padme an additional $20 in "dividends."

Palpatine's "fund" now has $420. He pays himself $20.

Palpatine's "fund" now has $400.

The "fund" is in fact just a Ponzi Scheme -- he pretends to be investing people's money, when he's actually just taking money from new investors and using it to pay "earnings" to old investors.

The problem is, if you run out of new investors -- like Madoff eventually did -- the whole thing comes crashing down and people -- especially the newest investors who haven't seen any "returns" yet -- lose their money.

thevexationman: Ah, you farkers are showing you true colors. We have suggestions that she be stoned to death, egged in the streets, humiliated, and so on. What's next? Government sanctioned gang rape?

The fact is none of you little keyboard warriors would say a word to her in real life and envy in here is thick and disgusting. Stop pouting on the internet, leave this (innocent) woman alone, and go get a job.

Nice try puss bucket troll, that guilty dollar whore deserves to be raped by gorillas.

Riche: As I understand it, Ruth Madoff was not involved in the scam. Maybe she suspected something dishonest was up, but with that much money coming in just about any human would end up in denial.

You do realize she not only knew what was going on, but attempted to hide assets for this scumbag before his arrest? The only reason she's not up on charges, I suspect, is because of whatever deal that was worked out with the Justice Department.

"Confused?" "Betrayed?" Please. She gets no sympathy from me.

i think we should look at the other side of the coin. im pretty sure she believed bernie was a wicked investor. she is beautiful, and women go after power and success. she is the cheerleader and he was the quarterback. she probably didnt even know he was 'roided up and cheating his way to the superbowl, you know?

i think its important to take her ignorance into the equation and stop throwing so much bile her way. she probably deserves her 2.5 million, and many many more millions on top of that. She shouldn't suffer because she was unaware any more than the present day jews should suffer because their ancestors killed jesus.

/seriously, if you dont look at the other side of the coin, you will seriously make false accusations.

Saul Good: thevexationman: Ah, you farkers are showing you true colors. We have suggestions that she be stoned to death, egged in the streets, humiliated, and so on. What's next? Government sanctioned gang rape?

The fact is none of you little keyboard warriors would say a word to her in real life and envy in here is thick and disgusting. Stop pouting on the internet, leave this (innocent) woman alone, and go get a job.

Nice try puss bucket troll, that guilty dollar whore deserves to be raped by gorillas.

Stay classy you farkhead pig. I smile knowing that it just eats you up inside that she will walk free with more assets ($2.5M) than you or anybody else in this thread will ever have.

SBinRR: FTFA: Ruth Madoff broke her silence Monday when she said in a statement that her husband "stunned us all with his confession and is responsible for this terrible situation in which so many now find themselves."

Don't give me that "Babe in the woods" routine Karen Ruth.

I approve your reference.

Saul Good: thevexationman: Ah, you farkers are showing you true colors. We have suggestions that she be stoned to death, egged in the streets, humiliated, and so on. What's next? Government sanctioned gang rape?

The fact is none of you little keyboard warriors would say a word to her in real life and envy in here is thick and disgusting. Stop pouting on the internet, leave this (innocent) woman alone, and go get a job.

Nice try puss bucket troll, that guilty dollar whore deserves to be raped by gorillas.

Gorillas have much smaller penes than humans.

thevexationman: she will walk free with more assets ($2.5M) than you or anybody else in this thread will ever have.

Hey, by the time I retire I'll likely have that much ... it will just only go about as far as, oh, $400k today.

@demerdin

You are wrong!

A) She was married to him, same person legally
B) Husband and Wife tell each other everything (as long as it doesn't incriminate one directly to the other, i.e. cheating)
C) Ignorance is no excuse, if you don't know what your spouse is doing financially... well umm, maybe you should get out of the marriage before stuff like this happens perhaps?

DBrandisNC: Except for that $2.5 million.

Pretty sure they let her keep that.


We'll see...


Ruth Madoff agreed to give up all of her possessions in return for a promise that federal prosecutors would not pursue $2.5 million not tied to the fraud. The money, though, is not protected from civil legal actions that might be pursued by a court-appointed trustee liquidating Madoff's assets or by investor lawsuits.

ipeeintheshower: Why does everyone want to shiat on Bernie Madoff's wife? She didn't do anything wrong as far as we know. If she had she would have been 1 of the people charged with crimes.


Exactly. She should get to keep all the stuff he stole.

/moran

iodine: Why we shiat on Mrs. Madoff:

1. Her first move is to try to claim a "Not Yours!" on about $70 MM in family money that she claims is "hers, and unrelated to the fraud". As if, well, there's one account for all the money we made "legitimately" that Ruth should be allowed to keep; and, there's another account (oddly empty) where the Madoff's stashed all the money we weren't supposed to make. FAIL.

2. Her second move, post quasi-confession of Bernie is to suddenly FedEx majillion$ worth of trinkets to relatives in FL. FAIL!

3. Her third move is to try to go about her usual life getting her hair colored, eating cobb salad and etc. in all the usu. high end 5th Ave places regardless of the fact that many of the other patrons there are also the victims of HER FAMILY! FAIL!!

4. Her fourth move is still to try to run off with fur coats and crap for herself. Now that the $70 MM won't fly, surely a $50,000 fur coat is just "little people money", right? FAIL!!!

Ruth, baby, wake up! Much as you want to claim how "shocked, I mean, shocked!!" you are that Bernie wasn't a superhumanly gifted asset manager, you walked in on his arm to who knows how many parties, you schmoozed the schmoozers, you cut the form, and you acted out the part of a woman who was married to a guy who was full of the most golden shiat. You were only the two legged "accessory" to his fraud, a little more than walnut paneling that talks. FAIL!!!!

In the process he raped and pillaged only about 1,000 of "your most intimate 'friends'", so fark you, Ruth if none of them ever want to see you ever again. You're lucky nobody [yet] put a Molotov in your dumbwaiter, biatch!

THIS.

well said, well spoken

demerdin: /seriously, if you dont look at the other side of the coin, you will seriously make false accusations.

Srsly?

danknerd: @demerdin

You are wrong!

A) She was married to him, same person legally
B) Husband and Wife tell each other everything (as long as it doesn't incriminate one directly to the other, i.e. cheating)
C) Ignorance is no excuse, if you don't know what your spouse is doing financially... well umm, maybe you should get out of the marriage before stuff like this happens perhaps?

HI.

I think maybe we should look at the other side of the coin, again.

a) Sometimes people that are the same person have multiple personality disorders and aren't responsible for what their other selves do, so even if they are the same person legally, they won't each go to jail. Also, the other side of the coin would say that they are not the same person legally or they would both, like, go to jail together, right? sometimes its important to look at it from another persons perspective.

b) If we think about this from a perspective not our own, im sure not all married couples tell everything. everything is a lot of things, and im sure he didnt tell her when he pooped, what it looked like, how sushi tasted to him, how often he masturbated, who he was ripping off, or how purples looks to him as opposed to her. maybe i might be wrong, but i like to look at both sides of every issue.

c) from the opposite perspective point of view, i assume that she thought she knew what he was doing, making boat loads of money, buying cristal, paying for bikini waxes and having penis surgery to give him a wang as big as his schnoze, i think its important to realize the power corrupts and absolute power corrupts awesomely, and the other point of view in this situation would claim that sometimes people are good at lying, even to their innocent, beautiful, big-breasted wifes.

I know its easy to turn her into joan of arc, but we should instead realize that the other side of the coin sometimes makes light on an otherwise dark situation.

thank you.

"Well, when you steal $600, you can just disappear. When you steal 600 million, they will find you, unless they think you're already dead..."

Not that she should live high on the hog from ill-gotten gain, but it's entirely plausible she lived for decades with no direct knowledge of the family business. Hell, everyone thought it was on the up and up for quite a long time. I don't know that she didn't know, but it's certainly possible, which would make her yet another person to have been farked by Bernie Maddof

JohnBigBootay: which would make her yet another person to have been farked by Bernie Maddof

I think that's a forgone conclusion.

ha shshe had enoug to drinkk?

YES (NSFW)

Hiro's Protagonist: Am I the only one more pissed off at the SEC than at Madoff?

The converse to that question: "Am I more pissed off at Madoff than the SEC?" would be asked by someone to the right of your particular political leaning.

The centrist would ask: "What is a good reason guns carry more than one bullet?"

Since, in this case, the fox was watching the hen house, but the hens were raping the neighbors and letting the fox watch, it's only reasonable to be angry at the fox AND the hens. The neighbors are only going to get some sympathetic baby wipes for the ripped anus.

/this analogy brought to you by Coors Light.

demerdin: she probably deserves her 2.5 million, and many many more millions on top of that.

Actually, she deserves shiat. If he'd made his money selling drugs they would go ahead and take everything and there wouldn't be any nitpicking over "money unrelated to the fraud". It would just all be property of the federal government.

She's getting a pass. If she was a woman married to a drug dealer the Feds would be taking her wedding ring.

shanrick: Madoff's wife is now "available?" Yes, no?

She's poor (or soon to be) and 67 years old. If that turns you on - have at it.

thevexationman: I smile knowing that it just eats you up inside that she will walk free with more assets ($2.5M) than you or anybody else in this thread will ever have.

Civil suits haven't started yet, genius. $2.5 million won't even cover her legal fees.

From_The_Year_2000: YoungSwedishBlonde: So apparently free market capitalism is punishable by 150 years in jail these days...

/in Obama America

You know, I know you aren't usually a troll, and I know you were just trying to be funny, but that's the worst attempt at a troll I've seen in my life, and that's an auto-block

I almost want to autoblock you for being a tool, but I hate using the ignore list.

/you're trolling too, right? I hope so.

Hermione_Granger: I hope they at least let her get her toothbrush. Maybe some pj's. Enough for human dignity. They could have supervised what she took and made sure it was just basics.

Don't like it when anyone gets treated like this.

I don't hate the woman, because I haven't read anything that stated she was aware that her husband was stealing from all his investors.

HOWEVER, she lived a life of luxury with money stolen from people's retirement accounts. While all those investors were scraping pennies together so live with a little "human dignity" after they retire, she was eating in the finest foods, wearing the finest clothes, and just generally living the good life with stolen money. So if they can sell her used tooth brush and pj's on eBay for mere 5 cents and use it to reimburse an investor even a micro portion of their investment, than it needs to be done.

elchip: The problem is, if you run out of new investors -- like Madoff eventually did -- the whole thing comes crashing down and people -- especially the newest investors who haven't seen any "returns" yet -- lose their money.

In this case, Palpatine had at least $171 billion. Let's see what that could get you.

NASA gets $17.8 billion in 2009.
The Department of Veterans Affairs gets $50.4 billion in 2009.
The Department of Energy gets $33.9 billion in 2009.
The entire 2009-2011 budget for Washington state is about $66.1 billion.

You get all that, and you still have change (about a billion and a half) left over.

She's biatching because she couldn't take a fur coat?

FormlessOne: In this case, Palpatine had at least $171 billion. Let's see what that could get you.

No, Madoff didn't have $171 billion. That'd make him the world's richest man several times over. He was personally worth about 1/1000 of that. He had collected somewhere around that much money for his scheme over time, most of which was paid off as "returns" to earlier "investors."

Lifeless: Saul Good: thevexationman: ...-edit-...
Nice try puss bucket troll, that guilty dollar whore deserves to be raped by gorillas.

Gorillas have much smaller penes than humans.

So, yeah, that changes everything.

elchip: He had collected somewhere around that much money for his scheme over time

You gotta understand, those high numbers you see when talking about Madoff include his future "yields". Mainly because, for asset valuation purposes, that's what his victims valued them at. Which is important, because you can use your assets as backing for loans and other investments.

If you exclusively look at total cash given to Madoff and ignore everything else, he took in about 3 Billion.

"Proceeds from a sale of the property and its contents could be used to help reimburse those who lost billions of dollars investing with Madoff before he confessed to running a Ponzi scheme."

Yeah right. Government thieves and lawyers will keep all that.

olddinosaur: Bernie steals billions/gov't steals trillions, but look who's in jail?

Of course, government doesn't like competition.

Hyperbolic Hyperbole: ha shshe had enoug to drinkk?

YES (NSFW)

I have NO idea what you're talking about, but I gotta say I love the way you're saying it.

If she didnt know she is just like a woman. If she knew, she is just like a woman.

/love women.

geedavey: But Guccione already owns a Penthouse. Why'd he want another?


/hot n' sticky

So a bunch of people engage in a private financial transaction with somebody who claims a higher reward thatn T-bills for the apparent higher risk they are willing to take. They lose their shirts. Remind me again why we the taxpayers via the SIPC are paying them even a penny when these people's investment was consciously made in unregulated places? If you invested your life savings in :CueCats, where would your government check be, other than at the welfare store?

I can'e believe the unmittigated gall of the madoff investors to complain about the SEC when they knew damn well that their investment was outside of the SEC's jurisdiction. Those investors can go to hell and don't deserve a moment of sympathy.

FTFA:

Federal marshals seized disgraced financier Bernard Madoff's $7 million Manhattan penthouse on Thursday and forced his wife to move out and leave her possessions behind, including a fur coat she had asked to take with her, an official told The Associated Press.

Good.

Reduce the biatch to penury.

On that last word, go look it up, kids.

She was a farking principal in the scam. In short, so no gaadam sympathy. She damn well knew what was going on, yet is geting off light, as are her kids. For now.

Oh, and for the record, yeah, my pension plan lost a chunk of money in this financial rape. However, it is not enough to personally affect me, so I have no axe to grind on this other than my personal outrage at these farktards.

olddinosaur: She's lucky they didn't bash down the door with a battering ram and shoot her in the back, that's the way the Feds usually do it.

No... those are POOR people.

Rich people who steal from rich people they just hold the door and say "GTFO".

elchip: Senator Palpatine calls up Anakin Skywalker and Padme Amidala to tell them of an awesome investment retirement scheme. They each give him $100.

Palpatine's "fund" now has $200.

Palpatine then calls up Saesee Tiin, Kit Fisto, Mace Windu and Agen Kolar to tell them of his awesome scheme. They each give him $100.

It's a good thing Palpatine never approached Boba Fett. That would have turned out real ugly in the end.

Bernie's crimes are peanuts compared to what the Paulson-Bernanke Gang made off with.

America needs a death sentence for large financial crimes (amounts over $1 million).
Under that I would have a variety of unpleasant punishments for lesser amounts.

Life imprisonment for stealing $500,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets.

25 years in jail for stealing $250,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money and the later auction of seized assets.

12 years in jail for stealing $125,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money and the later auction of seized assets.

10 years in jail for stealing $62,500 + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money.

With lesser financial crimes being handled by the standard incompetent Justice system in the currently inadequate way.

While I'm all for financial sleazebags getting their just desserts...

The people who were in on this deserved to get fked just as much as Madoff. There isn't an infinite supply of money to keep paying you out. Greedy assholes.

Gridlock: America needs a death sentence for large financial crimes (amounts over $1 million).
Under that I would have a variety of unpleasant punishments for lesser amounts.

Life imprisonment for stealing $500,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets.

25 years in jail for stealing $250,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money and the later auction of seized assets.

12 years in jail for stealing $125,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money and the later auction of seized assets.

10 years in jail for stealing $62,500 + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money.

With lesser financial crimes being handled by the standard incompetent Justice system in the currently inadequate way.

Are you on crack?

A human life is worth $1,000,000 to you?

Jesus christ, seek help.

NYZooMan: olddinosaur: They ought to let Bernie out of jail, put him in charge of Social Security and pay him a royalty.

Bernie steals billions/gov't steals trillions, but look who's in jail?

Give it time. We're working our way up.

I have a big vat of tar heating up. Give a holler when you get to the politicians.

Now where did I put my feather pillows?

OgreMagi: NYZooMan: olddinosaur: They ought to let Bernie out of jail, put him in charge of Social Security and pay him a royalty.

Bernie steals billions/gov't steals trillions, but look who's in jail?

Give it time. We're working our way up.

I have a big vat of tar heating up. Give a holler when you get to the politicians.

Now where did I put my feather pillows?

One normally only feathers someone if the tar isn't boiling their skin apart.

You, though? You're cruel.

Gridlock: America needs a death sentence for large financial crimes (amounts over $1 million).
Under that I would have a variety of unpleasant punishments for lesser amounts.

Life imprisonment for stealing $500,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets.

25 years in jail for stealing $250,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money and the later auction of seized assets.

12 years in jail for stealing $125,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money and the later auction of seized assets.

10 years in jail for stealing $62,500 + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money.

With lesser financial crimes being handled by the standard incompetent Justice system in the currently inadequate way.

I would almost agree with you, however you have no inflation index, and your sentence guidlines are high by a factor of 10

however since everyone today seems to like "hate crimes" we can add lots of time if you take money from poor people or minorities./

oh, then please can we add the same punishment for preachers if they are found to be hypocrits,

and people in politics who are found to be dirty,I would like this very much, God knows that with no one left in DC I could be President

Therion: Bernie's crimes are peanuts compared to what the Paulson-Bernanke Gang made off with.

Uh, Greenspan?

Do you think his peeps are starving?

Goodbye & get out Mrs Madoff. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Bomb Head "I can'e believe the unmittigated gall of the madoff investors to complain about the SEC when they knew damn well that their investment was outside of the SEC's jurisdiction."

I don't have much sympathy for many of the investors, BUT, if Madoff was outside SEC jurisdiction...why'd the SEC investigate him? why'd that knowledgable whistleblower hand over info to the SEC?

Cubansaltyballs: F*CK HER.

If I ever saw her walking down the street, I'd throw an egg at her... then steal her cart full of cans.

If you're going to throw an egg at her, at least make certain it's a rotten egg. After all, she deserves the very best.

belowner: Hiro's Protagonist: Am I the only one more pissed off at the SEC than at Madoff?

The converse to that question: "Am I more pissed off at Madoff than the SEC?" would be asked by someone to the right of your particular political leaning.

The centrist would ask: "What is a good reason guns carry more than one bullet?"

Since, in this case, the fox was watching the hen house, but the hens were raping the neighbors and letting the fox watch, it's only reasonable to be angry at the fox AND the hens. The neighbors are only going to get some sympathetic baby wipes for the ripped anus.

/this analogy brought to you by Coors Light.

demerdin: she probably deserves her 2.5 million, and many many more millions on top of that.

Actually, she deserves shiat. If he'd made his money selling drugs they would go ahead and take everything and there wouldn't be any nitpicking over "money unrelated to the fraud". It would just all be property of the federal government.

She's getting a pass. If she was a woman married to a drug dealer the Feds would be taking her wedding ring.

shanrick: Madoff's wife is now "available?" Yes, no?

She's poor (or soon to be) and 67 years old. If that turns you on - have at it.

thevexationman: I smile knowing that it just eats you up inside that she will walk free with more assets ($2.5M) than you or anybody else in this thread will ever have.

Civil suits haven't started yet, genius. $2.5 million won't even cover her legal fees.

I'm guessing the 2.5 million is going to be used mostly to cover her new Florida "homestead".

Bathia_Mapes: Cubansaltyballs: F*CK HER.

If I ever saw her walking down the street, I'd throw an egg at her... then steal her cart full of cans.

If you're going to throw an egg at her, at least make certain it's a rotten egg. After all, she deserves the very best.

Could always just slap her upside the head with a tube sock filled with dog shiat.

DanQuayle: and people in politics who are found to be dirty,I would like this very much, God knows that with no one left in DC I could be President

That was kind of my take on it... the congressional pension is insane to me... I've lived off much, much less than that my whole life, if I knew I was sure to have it for the rest of my life, I'd be incorruptible... I don't need the extra hassle when i'm already set for life

centralciudad: About dang time.

Woke up one morning to see 7 squad cars lined up in front of the house at 6am. The feds and police were there to arrest my neighbor who was operating a mortgage fraud scheme. (ie: buy a dump, fix it up, put a buyer into it w/ falsified mtg application, out-of-state lender holds the title, owner defaults, whole thing comes unraveled)

The feds seized everything. (seized the leather pants off his partner at another location) His fiancee was out on her butt with a blanket over her shoulders and her dog in her arms.
By the end of the day, the house was completely empty.

Madoff deserves no better.

Re your neighbor's fiancee... you might change your thoughts when you wake up with the federales taking all your shiat (that was yours via your own hardwork) with a quite possibly over reaching warrant not even leaving you with your farking clothes. Unless they've got good proof, why would they take her shiat too? Good luck on her getting any of it back unharmed. It'll cost thousands (and hope you have all recipts or bought via credit) and months or years depending on their investigation and trial time.

I have no love for Madoff types etc. but you have to watch the cops/Feds/gov like a hawk as they love the property seizure laws that favor them rather unfairly.

centralciudad: Woke up one morning to see 7 squad cars lined up in front of the house at 6am. The feds and police were there to arrest my neighbor who was operating a mortgage fraud scheme. (ie: buy a dump, fix it up, put a buyer into it w/ falsified mtg application, out-of-state lender holds the title, owner defaults, whole thing comes unraveled)

This happened at a place across from one of my offices. The guy was trading minerals....and got busted for it. As they looked into it more the guys who he worked with had a mortgage scam going on. When he was making his money everything was ok, he was a bit of a dick but he wasn't too nuts. When they started sniffing around he started walking around with a pistol. Last time I saw the guy he was in the parking lot of our office screaming into a phone and waving a pistol. Funny thing. Cops showed up, he shook hands with them, put his pistol away then went on his business.

When they hit his house up he was already gone, in jail. His wife and kids, no idea. One day the houe looked lived in (outside of an unmowed lawn), the next, empty. I'm talking nothing left but the ring around the tub. Wrought iron fence? Gone. Security cameras? Gone. Picked clean.

One of my coworkers lost money to Madoff. Apparently someone at her synagogue was making great returns, got her involved. She lost around 400k....she's really pissed. Oddly she's pissed at Bush for it. :P

She should take the subway to low income area.

She worked for him. She must have had suspicions over time.

She tried to help hide assets when it started crumbling. She has lived off the profits of a scam for decades.

She should be stripped of everything, all of their houses, all of her money, and be given food stamps and government provided retirement shelter.

LavenderWolf: Are you on crack?

A human life is worth $1,000,000 to you?

Jesus christ, seek help.

Actually I would price it at a billion flat normally.
The price would be what it would cost the other party if they were found guilty of killing you.
An index should be made which values and devalues life according to behavior. Earned or inherited money does not affect the "Life Value" index unless they are doing something worthwhile with it for other people.

Get 1 year of practical employable-job-skills education and your life value goes up by $1 million.

Be a public asshole for a week and your life goes down $1 million.

Invent something worthwhile and usable by the community and your life value goes up $1 million per year that the invention is still being used.

Steal a car, your life value goes down by the cost of the car times 10.

And so on. Do something worthwhile to better yourself or the community and your life value goes up. Do something destructive or foolish and you may find that people have zero problem or cost in killing you.

At the end of it all, some wealthy folks might have a "Penalty for killing" life value of $1. Some homeless people without a penny to their name might have a "Penalty for killing" value of $3 billion. The cost will be spread out if more than one person is doing the killing. I figure once a person's "Life Value" is known, society will take care of the rest of the balancing of books.

LavenderWolf: Gridlock: America needs a death sentence for large financial crimes (amounts over $1 million).
Under that I would have a variety of unpleasant punishments for lesser amounts.

Life imprisonment for stealing $500,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets.

25 years in jail for stealing $250,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money and the later auction of seized assets.

12 years in jail for stealing $125,000 and immediate forfeiture of all assets + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money and the later auction of seized assets.

10 years in jail for stealing $62,500 + once released the crook is reduced to Public Welfare income for housing &food while being required to get a job to pay back any remaining monies owed to the victims not paid back with the seized money.

With lesser financial crimes being handled by the standard incompetent Justice system in the currently inadequate way.

Are you on crack?

A human life is worth $1,000,000 to you?

Jesus christ, seek help.

Yeah, in the military life insurance is only 100k plus salary. Human life is worth around $130,000 to our government. Stop grossly overrating it.

If you're talking about chopping a human up and selling his organs on the black market, its probably around a million. www.humanforsale.com/ (new window)

farbles: Hermione_Granger: I hope they at least let her get her toothbrush. Maybe some pj's. Enough for human dignity.

Don't like it when anyone gets treated like this.


/no sympathy. i can just imagine the sort of opinions this harpie was spewing about us regular folks a few short months ago.

Don't flatter yourself- I doubt she had even the slightest inclination to make any effort to think about anyone outside of her world.

Gridlock: LavenderWolf: Are you on crack?

A human life is worth $1,000,000 to you?

Jesus christ, seek help.

Actually I would price it at a billion flat normally.
The price would be what it would cost the other party if they were found guilty of killing you.
An index should be made which values and devalues life according to behavior. Earned or inherited money does not affect the "Life Value" index unless they are doing something worthwhile with it for other people.

Get 1 year of practical employable-job-skills education and your life value goes up by $1 million.

Be a public asshole for a week and your life goes down $1 million.

Invent something worthwhile and usable by the community and your life value goes up $1 million per year that the invention is still being used.

Steal a car, your life value goes down by the cost of the car times 10.

And so on. Do something worthwhile to better yourself or the community and your life value goes up. Do something destructive or foolish and you may find that people have zero problem or cost in killing you.

At the end of it all, some wealthy folks might have a "Penalty for killing" life value of $1. Some homeless people without a penny to their name might have a "Penalty for killing" value of $3 billion. The cost will be spread out if more than one person is doing the killing. I figure once a person's "Life Value" is known, society will take care of the rest of the balancing of books.

Problem. Corporations have way more money than individuals. Would anyone blow the whistle on fraud or illegal activities knowing they could be legally killed?

She should be in jail with him.

Pocket Ninja: Sometimes I catch myself feeling a little bad for this woman. Then I stop.


For whatever reason I hold her in less reguard the Bernie. Probably becasue they remind me of the Marcos'. I was living in Manilla be before and during their fall. Imelida was the force behind the presidency then. Her greed and self-absorption was what was behind their downfall.

elchip: Ruth Madoff's future:

Wow. Please tell me that is a movie still and not real life.

That's otay
She'll find another shark to attach herself to
Remora

Riche: As I understand it, Ruth Madoff was not involved in the scam. Maybe she suspected something dishonest was up, but with that much money coming in just about any human would end up in denial.

I have a bridge to sell you. Ruth Madoff is an accountant by training.

Riche: The investment income on $2.5M would be around $75K a year, I guess. Not too shabby (I wish I was pulling in that kind of money) but an amount that clearly leaves her in the middle class.

Only if you don't think she should hit that capital (i.e., that the scumbag sons deserve any of it). She's 70. If she's aiming to be broke at 100, she could spend $140k a year, with a 3% inflation adjustment every future year, even just invested in T-bills.

She could do fine in New York on $140k a year (even if I'd prefer Oklahoma).

Now go after the rest of the execs and his kids. They knew.

The diamonds were sewn into the lining of her fur coat...

farbles: ... She should be happy that there is no true justice or her pampered white ass would be rendered into dog soap...

This has been on my mind all morning and I have to know: What is dog soap?

The court should have ordered both husband and wife locked up together.

Bernie would spend the rest of his wretched life listen to the old battleaxe biatch and moan to him about how he ruined her.

On second thought, that might be considered cruel and unusual punishment.

boobsrgood: elchip: Ruth Madoff's future:

Wow. Please tell me that is a movie still and not real life.



Hey! A customer!

LavenderWolf:
... A human life is worth $1,000,000 to you?...

Please be more specific. Yours, mine, Giselle Bundchen's? It's a sliding scale.

nosajghoul: I dont get it, why / what did he do? All I understand is he ran a scheme of some sort and some people lost money. A summation in either interpretative dance or via star wars analogy would be much appreciated.

it sort of went like this (new window)

Vtimlin: Now go after the rest of the execs and his kids. They knew.

and an outside investigation of members of the SEC, too

toonz: Vtimlin: Now go after the rest of the execs and his kids. They knew.

and an outside investigation of members of the SEC, too

Hell ya, A fund takes in 50B, owns SFA, pays 10% returns and they don't think it's a ponzi scheme?

AnEvilGuest: toonz: Vtimlin: Now go after the rest of the execs and his kids. They knew.

and an outside investigation of members of the SEC, too

Hell ya, A fund takes in 50B, owns SFA, pays 10% returns and they don't think it's a ponzi scheme?

just follow the money, and see where it leads us.

We should all deeply respect Bernie. He realized that many, many people simply weren't doing their part to help stimulate and drive the economy, so he took their money and spent it, as they should have.

Without him, we may have run into this recession many years ago, and still be wallowing in it.

I say we release him from prison immediately and let him resume his efforts to salvage our financial system.

Hell, let him have access to all the social security money in exchange for taking over the inflows and payouts. Seems he's better at running a ponzi scheme than the government is.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

That's what she gets for hiding money for that degenerate.

F*ck 'em all with a rusty fence post.

She's 68 years old and has everything she was able to hide from the Feds plus $2.5 million in her pocket, which is a hell of a lot better than the scores of 68 year olds who trusted her husband with their money. She can live just about anywhere she wants to. How many of us are going to have it like that when we are 68?
/fark her in her flabby wrinkled clam

elchip:

(strange model biatch.gif)

WTF is wrong with that woman? Srsly?

If she wasn't smart enough to squirrel away money all these years, she deserves to live on the streets.

/pocket all the change in the couch almost every day.

They should have searched everything. Let her live on the streets, who cares.