I'm watching Survivorman, and I'm getting a kick strange feeling out of these replies.

Elvis_Pelt: /49
//double bonus: coeds!
///what? you can't afford another D?

I believe you.

You do sound like that slimy TA with the comeover that would adjust grades for the hot braindead undergrads that are willing to spend 10 minutes with you.

olddinosaur: I freely concede they learned a lot of that crap from us, but they should have known the people who told them that were full of it.

It'll be fun.

logruszed: aiiee: Boomers may have been the last generation to enjoy post-war prosperity before Dick Nixon and the other chinese dick fellaters gave all our wealth away. that doesn't mean the boomers did it tardos.

If you're granted privilege, even through inheritance, and you refuse to give up that privilege then you're still responsible for it.

"I didn't buy these slaves, my daddy left them to me." - Still a slave owner.

"I didn't invent the idea that a 4ton vehicle with an inefficient engine was badass. The culture I grew up in told me it was badass." - Still responsible for it.

"I didn't invent the idea that paying taxes was un-American!" - Yes, you did; at least you ignored how farking stupid that idea was.

The boomers are the first generation that thought it made sense to have material success while paying nothing for it. They were the people who thought having a war without a tax increase made sense, the people who knew they were buying manufactured goods from overseas and destroying the industrial base here in the U.S. But they were "entitled" to own a lot of shiat, three cars and a big ass T.V., etc.

I feel bad for the few people here who were shafted by their own avarice (machinists in particular), but at least they got to live it up a little bit in the 70's and some of the 80's before that completely fell to shiat under administrations that soft-sold them the idea that you can have it all. Big military and cheap imported goods and low taxes.

I mean WTF is the logic? Are they going to now say they couldn't do the farking math on that one?

Are all boomers assholes and morons? No, obvious. But enough of them are/were to fark it up for their kids in the long run.

The parents of the boomers were the last generation to actually make sacrifices as a rule. My generation (kid of boomers) wants to have huge cars, do coke, and own a ton of shiat we don't need but you farkasses blew it all, now we pretty much have to be a bunch of dirty hippies or learn Chinese and compete with 2,000,000,000 people for the chance to solder plasma T.V.s for the rest of our lives until we die of lead poisoning, or go on welfare.

♠

yeah. Keep on believing that and you'll be ripe when the next scam wave drowns you. It's just like Gully Foyle blaming the space ship "Vorga!" for leaving him to die in space. It's STUPID son, you're gonna get raped.

aiiee: It's STUPID son, you're gonna get raped.

The "son" was a nice touch dawg... made me all nostalgic for that late 90s rap scene G.

I'm here to blame everything on my parents. Is this the right thread?

I'm 40 years old so I was born late enough that I'll never be responsible for anything, and the whole purpose of my existence is whining like a little biatch about how life isn't fair.

here's my theory:

Greatest generation lived through the tough years, figured out who was a leader, sucked it up.

Boomers were taught a "work ethic" by their parents, but resent it, and really just want everyone to love them. Managed to delude themselves into the cheap credit fiasco and "equality for all" because they never lived through the tough years and think life can be fuzzy and warm for everybody with no consequences.

Echo Boom (my generation) has had our society warped by a lonely Boomer generation who knows how to work hard, but oddly doesn't have any appreciation for it, or respect for it. We are now dealing with the fact that those of us who actually do work our asses off don't get credit for it, because the 'tard boomers who are our bosses don't really give a rats ass about hard work, just who makes them feel good about themselves.

I looking forward to a LONG depression, where those of us who work like hell get to see the rest of our peers suffer when no one is there to hold their hands any more.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: You do sound like that slimy TA with the comeover that would adjust grades for the hot braindead undergrads that are willing to spend 10 minutes with you.

Bald, baby, bald. And, as far as I know, no "braindead" students have been admitted to my fair institution of higher learning.

/schwing

logruszed: aiiee: Boomers may have been the last generation to enjoy post-war prosperity before Dick Nixon and the other chinese dick fellaters gave all our wealth away. that doesn't mean the boomers did it tardos.

If you're granted privilege, even through inheritance, and you refuse to give up that privilege then you're still responsible for it.

"I didn't buy these slaves, my daddy left them to me." - Still a slave owner.

"I didn't invent the idea that a 4ton vehicle with an inefficient engine was badass. The culture I grew up in told me it was badass." - Still responsible for it.

"I didn't invent the idea that paying taxes was un-American!" - Yes, you did; at least you ignored how farking stupid that idea was.



Hitler would love you btw, as would Coleman Young, Kwame Kilpatrick and every other desport that pandered to the ignorance, hate, and self-pitty of their constituencies. sucka.

I'd say the smart thing at this point is to get a government job that you can stay in forever, with a guaranteed pension and awesome benefits. Those are the people I see sitting fat and happy right now.

Looking at most other people? Unless you have a number of millions of dollars or are VERY smart, lucky or own a successful business, it's not looking too good. Not at all. I worry that we could really start seeing another slide in the economy. People are *really* hurting, even the ones making six figures.

I don't know what to say about the boomers. Nixon sold us down the river and his policies have frakked over pretty much everything else since then. The American people never did anything to fix it.

Maybe this will prove to be a big enough economic shock that people will wake up and start making more sustainable economic choices.

desport?

Quantum Apostrophe
They're also the ones that created everything around you, like the web and computers and stuff.

Sorry, but no. Dr. Douglas C. Engelbart (born January 30, 1925) set much of the groundwork for the modern PC. Joseph Carl Robnett Licklider (March 11, 1915 - June 26, 1990) was quite important as well. Yes, the shaping of the modern stuff is more Boomer territory, but you can't start a journey without the first step.

Ankah: I looking forward to a LONG depression, where those of us who work like hell get to see the rest of our peers suffer when no one is there to hold their hands any more.

I predict that in the coming years, those that are willing to work like hell will be successful.

Our time has finally come.

omris: The_Gallant_Gallstone: omris: Being inexperienced and having competition keeps people my age from being good employees how exactly?

Being inexperienced doesn't keep you from being a good employee... it just keeps you from getting hired in the first place.

Fair enough. But I will tell you that doing even a bad job well will help you out in the meantime. If you have to take a job at McDonalds while you look for something entry level in your field, it is in your best interests not to get fired from McDonalds. The percentage of people who couldn't get ANY job is pretty damn small. I worked multiple menial jobs to pay for grad school applications, and the contacts and references are useful. A lot of people shoot themselves in the foot by screwing up even the simplest of jobs.

You got that right.

I had a typical bipolar's patchwork resume for the first 17 years of my life (I quit jobs when I'm manic; I can't get jobs when I'm depressed); but because I always kept working, now that I'm finally on the level, I'm doing OK because I don't have a lot of terminations on my back, AND because I don't have a lot of pissed-off former bosses behind me. Sure, they were low-paying, low-level jobs, but I did them well.

And guess what, kiddies? Even Los Angeles is a small town when you're talking career-hunting. One bad reference can kill you.

suck it youngsters.


and stay off my lawn!

Dripdry: Nixon sold us down the river and his policies have frakked over pretty much everything else since then.

Damn... you hold a grudge on this whole Nixon thing... did he break into your hotel room at the Watergate by mistake or something.

dead_dangler: I predict that in the coming years, those that are willing to work like hell will be successful.

What, just like it's always been?

The_Gallant_Gallstone: PfizerX: That's what young people do these days, right? They tell the elderly to suck it and play air guitar on their graves... Right?

No air guitar... too early 90s.

Instead light a Parliament and drain that PBR over their LEEDS-Green-Certified tomb. Show your disdain by listening to Interpol on your iPod during the viewing service.

And don't forget to ask if the eggs are organic and the funereal luncheon.

Jesus Christ... Is it too late to eat the young?

/La Resistance!

costermonger: This whole attitude that young people are worthless employees makes it very, very easy for those of us with some motivation to rise through merit. So thanks, worthless slacker peers and prejudiced boomers, you're doing some of us a solid.

/24

This

But I might add that the sense of entitlement does exist among our forebears, especially when it comes to ye olde office job. Even if we're motivated enough, it's tough to get one up on that fat-arse blob in the office who sucks up to the boss and continually reminds cohorts of how integral her - or his - work is to the company.

/28
//Venting, enjoyed it.

olddinosaur: I am a baby boomer, and I am not having the time of my life.

In fact, I am damn scared for the future.

Young people these days figure they have a "right" to the basic necessities of life, a "right" to a job, a "right" to health care, and a "right" to be happy, et cetera ad mauseam.

I freely concede they learned a lot of that crap from us, but they should have known the people who told them that were full of it.

I not-so-fondly remember less than two years ago, people were flaming the hell out of me on FARK threads, saying crap like: "---screw you, dino! I just bought a 3,600 square-foot house for no money down at only[sic] $750,000 at 2.9% for 30 years, what could possibly go wrong?"

My short answer is: Freak near everything.

Your $750 K House might be worth $300K on paper, but yoyu would be lucky to get $200 K in a distress sale, but you still owe $730 K against it, your $900 mortgage payments have ballooned to $2600 because you didn't read the fine print, the City and County are still taxing it like it was worth $900 K because they need the money, and you voted for Obama thinking he would make life better for the common people, but so far all he has done is give $50 billion of your tax money to the bank which holds your mortgage---but not one red cent to you.

Wish you a lot of luck getting out of that mess.

Now after eight years of hating Bush (whom I concede was not that good) Obama gets elected promising everything to everybody, with no strings attached; "---everything will be fine, all that I need is just a little more power!"

Been there.

Got done by that.

No thank you.

Oh okay. It's our fault that you farked up. OUR BAD.

aiiee: logruszed: aiiee: Boomers may have been the last generation to enjoy post-war prosperity before Dick Nixon and the other chinese dick fellaters gave all our wealth away. that doesn't mean the boomers did it tardos.

If you're granted privilege, even through inheritance, and you refuse to give up that privilege then you're still responsible for it.

"I didn't buy these slaves, my daddy left them to me." - Still a slave owner.

"I didn't invent the idea that a 4ton vehicle with an inefficient engine was badass. The culture I grew up in told me it was badass." - Still responsible for it.

"I didn't invent the idea that paying taxes was un-American!" - Yes, you did; at least you ignored how farking stupid that idea was.



Hitler would love you btw, as would Coleman Young, Kwame Kilpatrick and every other desport that pandered to the ignorance, hate, and self-pitty of their constituencies. sucka.

you left out Ike, who knew that things like war were expensive and raised taxes accordingly. And associationg Young with a fascist and a thug either makes you a moron or a farking coont.

wee: I've seen a few exceptions, but pretty much this. That or they just stop showing up for work. I think personal responsibility went out the window about 15-20 years ago.

"Personal responsibility" didn't "go out the window", it was pushed. The day that 20- and 30-somethings started to see their boomer parents, people who slaved away for them and their families at corporations for 20, 30 years or more get shiatcanned after some 25 year old MBA yuppie shiatstain decided that the best way for the corporation's stock price to go up was to get rid of all the people who might retire soon... that's the day it went.

They know there is no more company loyalty for any one ever again, and plan their lives accordingly. Why should they give a rolling rat's ass about you or your business, slaving away to make you money, giving you any more of that precious of commodities than necessary - time - when they know that they'll never be appreciated for it? This is the world in which they were spawned... all for me and fark all o' y'all.

I really don't blame them for not wanting to fall into that trap.

dead_dangler: Ankah: I looking forward to a LONG depression, where those of us who work like hell get to see the rest of our peers suffer when no one is there to hold their hands any more.

I predict that in the coming years, those that are willing to work like hell will be successful.

Our time has finally come.

Hells yeah. Bring on the sh*tty economy. Lets find out who actually learned something in school, and who just went for the beer on daddy's dollar.

dameron: El Chode

I cannot wait until they all die off.

I've got an idea...



but you'd probably run.

i.c. what you did there.
damn good idea.

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Damn... you hold a grudge on this whole Nixon thing... did he break into your hotel room at the Watergate by mistake or something.

Nixon is the boogie men for people who don't actually know anything about the NIxon presidency.

paygun: dead_dangler: I predict that in the coming years, those that are willing to work like hell will be successful.

What, just like it's always been?



Disagrees.

logruszed: And associationg Young with a fascist and a thug either makes you a moron or a farking coont.

ow, cut down! I was there. Coleman was a master at working the voters into 'hate whitey at any cost' frenzy, yes just like Hitler did with the down and out ignorant self-pitying voters. sound familiar?

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Dripdry: Nixon sold us down the river and his policies have frakked over pretty much everything else since then.

Damn... you hold a grudge on this whole Nixon thing... did he break into your hotel room at the Watergate by mistake or something.

nah, but if you look back his administration's "helpers' they're same ones running much of the show now, and they trained the likes of Rove to ensure that their policies would remain strong. They're really done everything they can to make huge piles of cash for themselves at the expense of pretty much everybody.

I'm also a big Hunter Thompson fan, which does it as well, but why let people forget who started so much of this? Tricky Dickie himself.

Yep, life if sweet for me and mine. Just got back from two weeks on the Amalfi coast in Italy (flew first class British Air). Leased a private villa overlooking beautiful Positano with side trips to Capri, Pompeii, Florence and wonderful Montalcino (great Brunello wine there).

The secret?!? It was all GIVEN to me! No foolin'! A guy from the super secret Society for the Preservation of Boomer Opulent Lifestyle dropped a cool 10 large in my hand a year ago and told me to, "go on -- spend it on something nice". Nah, didn't earn it at all -- no 50 hour weeks in crap dead end jobs in my early 20s selling beauty supplies to barbers and hair dressers, no working 7 days a week at a car lot in my late 20s to feed my family and pay for an advanced degree from a local college. No Carter Administration with 17% mortgage interest rates to worry about, it was SO EASY even a dope like me could get lucky simply because of my Boomerality.

/still work 50 hour work weeks
//very thankful for frequent flier miles in great abundance (didn't have to earn those, either)
///live well now but not so much 20 or 30 years ago
////all y'all can get there too, but it takes a bit of luck and a lot of hard work
//an elderly 51 3/4

Baby Boomers are the selfish assholes that ruined everything for everybody.

There, I said it.

Assholes.

Ankah: Disagrees.

Well, you have a point there. One heiress to a fortune negates everyone else on the planet.

Let me guess, because she's rich and had everything handed to her, that's evidence that you can never get ahead so you might as well lay on your ass because the whole system is rigged.

this thread's real topic of argument ....

Great Metal Jesus: Blaming an entire generation of people for anything is farking retarded. They're not some monolithic hive-mind or a secret society. All boomers aren't evil, greedy f*cks who masturbate to the idea of bleeding the planet dry and all youngsters aren't shiftless slobs who've never worked a day in their lives.

As a middle-ged Gen-Xer, I'm getting a kick out of the fireworks. Fark all of you Boomers and Me-llennials.

/We don't need no water, let the motherfarker burn

novent939: this thread's real topic of argument ....

You forgot a "rich old people owe me a living" picture, but I don't know how to depict that other than the Paris Hilton picture posted above.

paygun: Ankah: Disagrees.

Well, you have a point there. One heiress to a fortune negates everyone else on the planet.

Sadly yes. :(

Dripdry:

Nixon sold us down the river and his policies have frakked over pretty much everything else since then. The American people never did anything to fix it.




Yes! so much this. Why is it nobody remembers Dicky going to "Open up China" yeah, opened up something all right, he opened up his wallet, and once it was obvious he got away with it, every slime ball politician since then has gotten their asses into the trough as quickly and thoroughly as possible. Yeah Boomers did that. VOTERS did that, ignorant, easily led dumbass voters.

Ankah: Sadly yes. :(

Why aren't you embarrassed to say things like that? That's pathetic.

aiiee: logruszed: And associationg Young with a fascist and a thug either makes you a moron or a farking coont.

ow, cut down! I was there. Coleman was a master at working the voters into 'hate whitey at any cost' frenzy, yes just like Hitler did with the down and out ignorant self-pitying voters. sound familiar?

Just how many LaRouche stickers do you have on your car? Every time a black man is popular with the lower/working class some fark stick comes along and compares him to Hitler.

Hey, how about comparing Reagan to Hitler for being popular, what about Shrub Jr? Giuliani?

Where exactly is your "gentleman's outdoor club" located in the upper-peninsula, anyway? And how long have you been friends with the Nichols family?

LordZorch: Look, I didn't make them get a degree in art history, OK? Just mow my farking lawn and fetch me a bag of cheeseburgers...

Scarily enough, it doesn't matter what degree you graduate with right now. I know quite a few reputable civil and industrial engineering graduates who still haven't found full-time jobs since last spring.

Even worse, those graduates that do find jobs are replacing experienced, middle-aged engineers so that firms don't have to pay for pensions.

/fark this shiat, I'm hiking to the wilderness and never coming back

paygun: dead_dangler: I predict that in the coming years, those that are willing to work like hell will be successful.

What, just like it's always been?

Yes, except with none of the distractions caused by people pretending they're rich and buying everything on credit. I'd write more, but it's time to get my nose back to the grindstone.

omris: Mrstupid7:
Being fresh out of college with no real experience, and competing with people who have 10-20 years of experience for relatively low-level jobs, dumbass.

Being inexperienced and having competition keeps people my age from being good employees how exactly? It doesn't take experience on the job to realize that being chronically late is bad for your employment, but I had a roommate get fired for repeated tardiness. The whole group of them were let go for various reasons including excessive absence, poor performance, and a really bad attitude. They also quit various jobs for reasons such as "I don't like it enough." I'm not making this crap up. And most of the issues really did stem from excessive drugs, alcohol, and video games. I like WoW. But when it comes to playing video games and partying or doing my job well, many people my age make what I would consider to be a poor choice. And then they wonder why they can't get or keep a decent job.

Man, that must be why I cannot find a job. I didn't know that I was secretly lazy.

Articles like this make me feel so lucky to have a decent job. It's stressful and difficult but that's why they call it work, right? It's allowed me to buy a new home this past week so I can get my hands on some of those Obama bucks. Any of you broke gen y ers need a room I got one for rent, 400 all bills paid. It's in SE Austin or what I call suburban Mexico.

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Please don't give up on the gen Y just yet. There are a select few that have decent parents that raised them with respect and knowledge that money doesn't grow on trees.

and please realize that we get sick and tired of being lumped in with the assholes who are lazy and disrespectful.

/on the literal ass-end of gen x, but gets lumped in with the Y's. being born in 1980 sucks sometimes!

Ankah: here's my theory:

Greatest generation lived through the tough years, figured out who was a leader, sucked it up.

Boomers were taught a "work ethic" by their parents, but resent it, and really just want everyone to love them. Managed to delude themselves into the cheap credit fiasco and "equality for all" because they never lived through the tough years and think life can be fuzzy and warm for everybody with no consequences.

Echo Boom (my generation) has had our society warped by a lonely Boomer generation who knows how to work hard, but oddly doesn't have any appreciation for it, or respect for it. We are now dealing with the fact that those of us who actually do work our asses off don't get credit for it, because the 'tard boomers who are our bosses don't really give a rats ass about hard work, just who makes them feel good about themselves.

I looking forward to a LONG depression, where those of us who work like hell get to see the rest of our peers suffer when no one is there to hold their hands any more.

I looking forward to a long depression, too. And the end of easy credit which causes inflation. It's about time.

I just wish parents and schools taught more about self-reliance.

/Get off my land old folks and stop paving over springs and water sources in SoCal.

Mrstupid7: GreyArt: dead_dangler Quote 2009-07-02 11:17:30 PM


Are you seriously complaining when you've got two houses??? You poor dea

Did you miss the part where they are worth a lot less than we paid for them. You want one? Come and get it. Just take over payments and you can have one of them. Or both actually.

Mrstupid7


So you bought a freaking house? Were there no places for rent or something


We had one house. Then my husbands job sent us overseas and our daughter and her family moved in. We got back from overseas and didn't want to live with them and couldn't throw them out so we bought another one. We thought it would be a good investment.

Well that's a little different than what your original post lead on.

Disregard this comment. I somehow missed the second to last sentence.

spaten: I just wish parents and schools taught more about self-reliance.

The irony... is delicious!

HEY GUYS IM SO LUCKY I HAVE A JOB AND WORK

My boss makes sure I am at my desk 8:00 every morning. They check in on me. If I am not sitting down in time, I get a demerit.

I call up my boss and tell him I am going on vacation and that I am sick. They like to know where I am and what I am doing.

Every day (if I'm lucky and not busy)I get to leave my chair for lunch. I drive in my car and eat cheeseburgers or tacos.

I sit my big belly behind my desk 8+ hours a day and type type type and think.

But I'm very successful because I go on a cruise once a year.

Being a sedentary rock is difficult.

toraque:
You know, someday, I'd like to own one house.

That day will come, as soon as all the dickbags that bought second houses as an "investment" lose them to foreclosure. Artificial demand did wonders for housing appreciation. Until it didn't. Now they're trying to sell at somewhere near the insane price they paid, or becoming amateur landlords and watching their property trashed by deadbeat renters, or sitting empty because they are holding out for enough rent to make the mortgage.

It'll be a few years until they're all busted, but I can wait. Meanwhile, watching the smug turn to horror and desperation is amusing.

Fear not younglings, your day is coming. Don't let them bullshiat you into signing your life away.

spaten: We'll make an exception for the WWII Generation, but Boomers:

Super! Great use of a boomer-directed movie to make a pointless!

AmazingRuss:
Fear not younglings, your day is coming. Don't let them bullshiat you into signing your life away.

I'm 27 and currently unemployed.

Guess what? I don't own a home. But I did pay off my car and student loans.

Living debt free is awesome. Just have to pay the damn rent and iPhone bill.

Your home is a weight that keeps you working a job you hate.

I find it funny...the steel mill I work at had a big hiring spree 3 years ago...the average age of the new hires ended up being 50. You little boys and girls are too good to get dirty for an 80k a year job with insane benefits, a real pension(not a 401k that you all think you'll be retiring on), tons of holidays, etc. So keep on whining, and wait for your big office job



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//get off my big-ass farkin' lawn