Let me go ahead and get it out of the way. "Butthurt" "Wharbblle"

I don't think Republicans understand how low the bar is for Obama.

After two terms of Bush, he could bone my mom and I would still feel OK about the vote I cast for him. I find his performance disappointing in some regards, but I have yet to see anything that that makes me come remotely close to wishing I had voted for McCain (or RON PAUL).

I suppose that could change but, really, if he finishes out his term with an economy better than he inherited and he manages to avoid involving us in a third war, I'll be a content citizen.

This was one of the compromises the President offered the republicans to get them on board. They said their usual NO NO NO NO, and it will likely be stricken from the final bill and it will pass in spite of them.

The health insurance companies must die. This is an excellent way to start killing them.

/doesn't have company sponsored "health" plan

GoodCopBadCop: After two terms of Bush, he could bone my mom and I would still feel OK about the vote I cast for him.

This response is indicative of the normal Obama devotee. That's why your Mom is farking me, you worthless piece of shiat. By the way, you're rent has run out on the basement farkwad. Take you're degree in PoliSci and go get a dis washing job down at Denny's. Your Mom and I are taking a vacation to Cancun. No more free ride punk.

sepuku2 You sir are a credit to conservatives everywhere.
Have you considered running for office?

FireBreathingLiberal: This was one of the compromises the President offered the republicans to get them on board. They said their usual NO NO NO NO, and it will likely be stricken from the final bill and it will pass in spite of them.

Obama said the idea was "so radical, so out of touch with what you're facing, and so out of line with our basic values." Why does Obama hate America?

Huh. Just last night the news said he still opposed it.

FireBreathingLiberal: sepuku2 You sir are a credit to conservatives everywhere.
Have you considered running for office?

Hyperbole+Hyperbole=Bullshiat and sometimes a funny. ;)

sepuku2: GoodCopBadCop: After two terms of Bush, he could bone my mom and I would still feel OK about the vote I cast for him.

This response is indicative of the normal Obama devotee. That's why your Mom is farking me, you worthless piece of shiat. By the way, you're rent has run out on the basement farkwad. Take you're degree in PoliSci and go get a dis washing job down at Denny's. Your Mom and I are taking a vacation to Cancun. No more free ride punk.

Yesterday, I saw one posit - honestly - that the Justice Department is continuing to pursue the prior administration's course on prosecuting terror suspects and arguing the same positions because the only way to undue Bush's policies was to argue in favor of them in court.

Nabb1: Yesterday, I saw one posit - honestly - that the Justice Department is continuing to pursue the prior administration's course on prosecuting terror suspects and arguing the same positions because the only way to undue Bush's policies was to argue in favor of them in court.

I believe Nabbs. Everyone else is still smelling unicorn farts or something like old beef liver frying on a west Texas Highway somewhere between Van horn and El Paso!

I refuse to put stock in any article by a "news" source with this on every web page:


Standing Athwart Washington Liberals?

Was there a similar cartoon when Dubya was spending our treasure (monetary and human) like Imelda Marcos at a shoe store?

sepuku2: This response is indicative of the normal Obama devotee. That's why your Mom is farking me, you worthless piece of shiat. By the way, you're rent has run out on the basement farkwad. Take you're degree in PoliSci and go get a dis washing job down at Denny's. Your Mom and I are taking a vacation to Cancun. No more free ride punk.

I really hope that you're trolling.

"go get a dis washing job"

I agree, your insults really need some cleaning up.

BobtheFascist: Huh. Just last night the news said he still opposed it.

This week, White House budget director Peter Orszag said taxing employer benefits was among several ideas that "most firmly should remain on the table." White House economic adviser Jason Furman called for an end to the so-called "employer exclusion" before he joined the administration. Meanwhile, some congressional Democrats say the White House has signaled that Obama would accept a tax on employer benefits as long as he didn't have to propose it himself. (new window)

Sid_6.7: sepuku2: This response is indicative of the normal Obama devotee. That's why your Mom is farking me, you worthless piece of shiat. By the way, you're rent has run out on the basement farkwad. Take you're degree in PoliSci and go get a dis washing job down at Denny's. Your Mom and I are taking a vacation to Cancun. No more free ride punk.

I really hope that you're trolling.

"go get a dis washing job"

I agree, your insults really need some cleaning up.

Actually I hit the "H" key so hard that it bounced up and hit me between the eyes and that's when I had the catharsis. Now I'm looking for some Loctite mein Turdhopper.

sepuku2
GoodCopBadCop: After two terms of Bush, he could bone my mom and I would still feel OK about the vote I cast for him.

This response is indicative of the normal Obama devotee. That's why your Mom is farking me, you worthless piece of shiat. By the way, you're rent has run out on the basement farkwad. Take you're degree in PoliSci and go get a dis washing job down at Denny's. Your Mom and I are taking a vacation to Cancun. No more free ride punk.

You're funny. Not in the way you intend to be, but funny nonetheless.

Hang On Voltaire: BobtheFascist: Huh. Just last night the news said he still opposed it.

This week, White House budget director Peter Orszag said taxing employer benefits was among several ideas that "most firmly should remain on the table." White House economic adviser Jason Furman called for an end to the so-called "employer exclusion" before he joined the administration. Meanwhile, some congressional Democrats say the White House has signaled that Obama would accept a tax on employer benefits as long as he didn't have to propose it himself. (new window)

That sneaky bastard.

More of the same we call can't believe in anymore...

Sometimes politicians say things just to get elected.
Sometimes politicians say things they want to follow up on but find out their predecessor left things in such a state of shiat that they cannot.
Sometimes politicians don't like to be cast as the bad guy.
Sometimes politicians are whores.
Most times, politicians are whores, actually.

AdolfOliverPanties: Sometimes politicians say things just to get elected.
Sometimes politicians say things they want to follow up on but find out their predecessor left things in such a state of shiat that they cannot.
Sometimes politicians don't like to be cast as the bad guy.
Sometimes politicians are whores.
Most times, politicians are whores, actually.

Sometimes people just lie like a motherfarker. And then some shiat happens. Obama, Yo Mama. Keep believing. You're tears they nourish me like the Jarheads in the Helmand in Afghanistan. Obama's a lying sack of shiat. Your Messiah is a farking

sepuku2: Sometimes people just lie like a motherfarker. And then some shiat happens. Obama, Yo Mama. Keep believing. You're tears they nourish me like the Jarheads in the Helmand in Afghanistan. Obama's a lying sack of shiat. Your Messiah is a farking

Whoops. You got so apoplectic there you just had a heart attack. Oh well.

It is change. He said one thing, and changed his mind!
/ba-dum-tsch

However, we're only looking at the bill taxing a portion of health care benefits. From this article: (new window)
Last month, [Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max] Baucus [D-MT] said he did not support eliminating the exclusion but was eyeing a benefit cap. Experts have outlined two likely approaches: taxing health benefits for workers above a certain income level; or taxing benefits over a certain value, perhaps $14,000 a year.

In either case, it's going to tax employer-based health care (not government-given care), it's not going to tax everyone, and it's still not going to negatively impact those least able to afford care.

Well, that's because that was McCain's whole plan, which was moronic. Still, this is moronic- though I'm just pissed I have to pay taxes on the money I have to spend out of pocket to buy "private" health insurance. Costs me $5,000 of the $20,000 I make a year just for farking health insurance, and the Feddies say "Oop, not employer based, too farking bad, shiatface!"

cameroncrazy1984: sepuku2: Sometimes people just lie like a motherfarker. And then some shiat happens. Obama, Yo Mama. Keep believing. You're tears they nourish me like the Jarheads in the Helmand in Afghanistan. Obama's a lying sack of shiat. Your Messiah is a farking

Whoops. You got so apoplectic there you just had a heart attack. Oh well.

There are some "conservatives" around here that provide intelligent commentary- Nabb is usually pretty good about that, though sometimes he gets all excited and creams in his jeans, as you saw here, over something to jump on Obama over- but sepuku is straight up knee jerkery, no intelligent conversation ever, which actually makes me think he's a DU troll, because all he's doing is further marginalizing and demonstrating what the right wing stands for today.

ragekage: cameroncrazy1984: sepuku2: Sometimes people just lie like a motherfarker. And then some shiat happens. Obama, Yo Mama. Keep believing. You're tears they nourish me like the Jarheads in the Helmand in Afghanistan. Obama's a lying sack of shiat. Your Messiah is a farking

Whoops. You got so apoplectic there you just had a heart attack. Oh well.

There are some "conservatives" around here that provide intelligent commentary- Nabb is usually pretty good about that, though sometimes he gets all excited and creams in his jeans, as you saw here, over something to jump on Obama over- but sepuku is straight up knee jerkery, no intelligent conversation ever, which actually makes me think he's a DU troll, because all he's doing is further marginalizing and demonstrating what the right wing stands for today.

It's scary to think that libs could be that good. To create the perfect machine that never slips and never breaks character in it's quest to make the other side look bad. In nature we have sharks that are perfectly suited to one task in life, but I've never seen a man pull it off.

cameroncrazy1984: You got so apoplectic there you just had a heart attack.

One can always hope.

Mordant: It's scary to think that libs could be that good. To create the perfect machine that never slips and never breaks character in it's quest to make the other side look bad. In nature we have sharks that are perfectly suited to one task in life, but I've never seen a man pull it off.

Hell, with how I feel about the Republican party, if I wasn't truly afraid of unchallenged one-party rule and I really wanted to invest the time into it, I could do it easy. The right-wing and "conservatives" have turned themselves into such a parody it'd be pretty easy to do. What wouldn't be easy is trying to live with yourself afterwards- I would have a hard time stomaching becoming something I hate- which is what confuses me about people like printboy, Phil Herup, sepuku, etc, etc, and makes me think they're particularly bitter DU trolls with copious amounts of free time.

What the hell is "Wharbblle"?

sepuku2: This response is indicative of the normal Obama devotee. That's why your Mom is farking me, you worthless piece of shiat. By the way, you're rent has run out on the basement farkwad. Take you're degree in PoliSci and go get a dis washing job down at Denny's. Your Mom and I are taking a vacation to Cancun. No more free ride punk.

Before I go crazy checking this for hidden words, are you the guy that hides the drinking things in his posts or am I just wasting my time?

Bek: Before I go crazy checking this for hidden words, are you the guy that hides the drinking things in his posts or am I just wasting my time?

He's just batshiat insane. Nothing ever worth reading. The fun troll is StopArrestingMe I think, or something like that.

ragekage:
There are some "conservatives" around here that provide intelligent commentary- Nabb is usually pretty good about that, though sometimes he gets all excited and creams in his jeans, as you saw here, over something to jump on Obama over- but sepuku is straight up knee jerkery, no intelligent conversation ever, which actually makes me think he's a DU troll, because all he's doing is further marginalizing and demonstrating what the right wing stands for today.

There's a reason I have you farky'd as a "Coherent Conservative".

As a dyed in the wool libtard I hope like hell you (and others like you) can reclaim the Republican party.

Benefits aren't taxed down there? That's insane.

Well somethings got to balance the meter.

Mordant: It's scary to think that libs could be that good. To create the perfect machine that never slips and never breaks character in it's quest to make the other side look bad. In nature we have sharks that are perfectly suited to one task in life, but I've never seen a man pull it off.

So does that mean that Remove All Republicans is a conservative?

That get's the squinty eye Fry look from me

Hang On Voltaire: FireBreathingLiberal: This was one of the compromises the President offered the republicans to get them on board. They said their usual NO NO NO NO, and it will likely be stricken from the final bill and it will pass in spite of them.

Obama said the idea was "so radical, so out of touch with what you're facing, and so out of line with our basic values." Why does Obama hate America?

When did Obama say he was going to do it?

I'm not going to bother clicking the link, but I was wondering: does it actually go to NRO, or does it link to a M:TG database or something instead?

Marcus Aurelius: The health insurance companies must die. This is an excellent way to start killing them.

Careful there, you might actually reveal the truth of the Obama health care plan.

And really, looking at the current government run health care plans, along with all the great bridges, schools, roads, and other things that are the pinnacle of efficiency and care who wouldn't want the government to run everything.

By the way, the only reason Obama or anyone else wants to provide health care is to have control over you. That's the only reason.

Hang On Voltaire: Let me go ahead and get it out of the way. "Butthurt" "Wharbblle"

That seems to be the entire content of every leftist argument the last six months. No matter what is said, even if it is a justified criticism of Obama, the immediate response is "butthurt".

Learn a new trick.

orbitalfreak: It is change. He said one thing, and changed his mind!
/ba-dum-tsch

However, we're only looking at the bill taxing a portion of health care benefits. From this article: (new window)
Last month, [Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max] Baucus [D-MT] said he did not support eliminating the exclusion but was eyeing a benefit cap. Experts have outlined two likely approaches: taxing health benefits for workers above a certain income level; or taxing benefits over a certain value, perhaps $14,000 a year.

In either case, it's going to tax employer-based health care (not government-given care), it's not going to tax everyone, and it's still not going to negatively impact those least able to afford care.

I bet it won't tax the employer based benefits of the members of Congress.

Hang On Voltaire: Let me go ahead and get it out of the way. "Butthurt" "Wharbblle"

I see you're using shorthand now. Very considerate. But why did you feel the need to repeat yourself more verbosely later in the thread?

OgreMagi: Hang On Voltaire: Let me go ahead and get it out of the way. "Butthurt" "Wharbblle"

That seems to be the entire content of every leftist argument the last six months. No matter what is said, even if it is a justified criticism of Obama, the immediate response is "butthurt".

Learn a new trick.

You sound butthurt.

OgreMagi: Hang On Voltaire: Let me go ahead and get it out of the way. "Butthurt" "Wharbblle"

That seems to be the entire content of every leftist argument the last six months. No matter what is said, even if it is a justified criticism of Obama, the immediate response is "butthurt".

Learn a new trick.

You sound butthurt.

OgreMagi: Hang On Voltaire: Let me go ahead and get it out of the way. "Butthurt" "Wharbblle"

That seems to be the entire content of every leftist argument the last six months. No matter what is said, even if it is a justified criticism of Obama, the immediate response is "butthurt".

Learn a new trick.

We will when you do something besides whining and/or lying.

OgreMagi: Hang On Voltaire: Let me go ahead and get it out of the way. "Butthurt" "Wharbblle"

That seems to be the entire content of every leftist argument the last six months. No matter what is said, even if it is a justified criticism of Obama, the immediate response is "butthurt".

Learn a new trick.

You sound butthurt.

FireBreathingLiberal: This was one of the compromises the President offered the republicans to get them on board. They said their usual NO NO NO NO, and it will likely be stricken from the final bill and it will pass in spite of them.

And this is why Republican whining over Bibartisanship is retarded. Every time Obama has offered a compromise so far, they attack him for being a hypocrite, or vote en masse against it.

This always happens. Noone is ever able to promise everything they promise during campaign time. Personally I'm happy because I had it pegged that Democrats would of destroyed Bush the second time around, but they someone managed to screw that up.

At any rate if ya didn't see a Democratic president, or that Obama would backtrack on some of his campaign policies, coming: Then you're a moron.

Does fark just have a script auto posting/greenlighting every opinion piece the NRO writes or what?

Here's what it comes down to:

You either pay the government for health care, or pay the IRS.

Link (new window)

Be sure to read that sentence that says fines will be collected through the IRS. So, if you opt out, that tax refund you're used to will be lighter by $1,000 or (likely) much more.

Or you can continue to pay for your current health insurance that you've had for years. Only you'll be paying more now that the government has their hands in it.

Don't kid yourself if you think it won't go up.

Think the DMV, only federal.

Or you can be poor or illegal and get it for free (all tracked by the IRS).

I'm not exactly looking forward to this.

Who cares? We elected Obama because he was black and flashy and that's cooler than old white men and slutty milfs from alaska.

Everyone knew he never had a real job before or ran a business, he was a community organizer- like al sharpton.

Don't blame him, blame whoever is typing words into the teleprompter.

ggggbabybabybaby: This always happens. Noone is ever able to promise everything they promise during campaign time. Personally I'm happy because I had it pegged that Democrats would of destroyed Bush the second time around, but they someone managed to screw that up.

At any rate if ya didn't see a Democratic president, or that Obama would backtrack on some of his campaign policies, coming: Then you're a moron.

I agree with you to a certain extent but this is more than just a little backtrack when he says taxing health care benefits "the idea is so radical, so out of touch with what you're facing, and so out of line with our basic values."

I would assume "our basic values" refers to basic values of the democratic party.

Just remember "It's OK when our guy lies but when the other guy does it, it is the end of the world"

vomitsmuggler: Who cares? We elected Obama because he was black and flashy and that's cooler than old white men and slutty milfs from alaska.

Everyone knew he never had a real job before or ran a business, he was a community organizer- like al sharpton.

Don't blame him, blame whoever is typing words into the teleprompter.

Let me guess, you smuggle in the unused space behind your eyes.

gaspode: Does fark just have a script auto posting/greenlighting every opinion piece the NRO writes or what?

It probably has a lot to do witALL HAIL THE PITA

Is Obama's newest slogon..."Anything, I will tax it."?

So much for not taxing us.

vomitsmuggler: Who cares? We elected Obama because he was black and flashy and that's cooler than old white men and slutty milfs from alaska.

Everyone knew he never had a real job before or ran a business, he was a community organizer- like al sharpton.

Don't blame him, blame whoever is typing words into the teleprompter.

He can't help himself.

Welcome to adapt survive, as opposed to stay the course and destroy the country.

sepuku2: GoodCopBadCop: After two terms of Bush, he could bone my mom and I would still feel OK about the vote I cast for him.

This response is indicative of the normal Obama devotee. That's why your Mom is farking me, you worthless piece of shiat. By the way, you're rent has run out on the basement farkwad. Take you're degree in PoliSci and go get a dis washing job down at Denny's. Your Mom and I are taking a vacation to Cancun. No more free ride punk.


What is with all these moran conservatives with the your mom jokes?

Seriously, your mom? That wasn't funny back in the 80's.

It's 2009.

Teleprompter mustard socialism.


These are the important issues.

Oh yeah and nuking American cities.

sepuku2: GoodCopBadCop: After two terms of Bush, he could bone my mom and I would still feel OK about the vote I cast for him.

This response is indicative of the normal Obama devotee. That's why your Mom is farking me, you worthless piece of shiat. By the way, you're rent has run out on the basement farkwad. Take you're degree in PoliSci and go get a dis washing job down at Denny's. Your Mom and I are taking a vacation to Cancun. No more free ride punk.

This thread is a waste of bandwidth. It's isn't hypocrisy when Obama does it.

I remember the firestorm of criticism that McCain got when he said this. Plus McCain wanted to get people their own insurance that they could own and take with them from job to job. They would not be at the mercy of the employer.


McCain had a great idea.

Obama bullshiatted you... he promise everyone Congressional level coverage while bashing McCains' superior plan. McCain actually had a plan, Obama had rhetoric.


Now you are going to get your benefits taxed anyway.

Ha Ha idiots... ha farking ha.


Most of you do not even know how stupid you are. He also swore that no family under the $250K mark would see a tax increase of any kind... that is already out the window.

Hang On Voltaire: Let me go ahead and get it out of the way. "Butthurt" "Wharbblle"

You forgot the picture of the crying conservative baby.

Reality: McCain proposed taxing *all* employer based healthcare and then giving a $5K tax credit to offset that tax. Obama was against universally taxing health care. Today there are proposals to tax health care above a certain dollar threshold. As the value of an employer health plan increases at some point it stops being a benefit and starts to become a form of compensation. These cadillac plans are the ones that are being proposed for taxation as part of a comprehensive health care strategy.

Spin: ZOMG!!!eleventy11!! Sekrit Muslin's taxin ur dokters!

GoodCopBadCop: I don't think Republicans understand how low the bar is for Obama.

After two terms of Bush, he could bone my mom......



He's the President. He doesn't really have time to stand in that long a line.

So since he's doing something the other candidate was gonna do, the supporter of said other candidate are mad? That's a lil confusing

OgreMagi: Hang On Voltaire: Let me go ahead and get it out of the way. "Butthurt" "Wharbblle"

That seems to be the entire content of every leftist argument the last six months. No matter what is said, even if it is a justified criticism of Obama, the immediate response is "butthurt".

Learn a new trick.

Indeed. These libs appear to be, for the most part, young male basement-dwellers who can't get dates (with members of either gender) and seem to have a fixation on rough anal sex. One wonders what their mothers think about the chronic shortage / disappearance of hand lotion, hair conditioner, cucumbers and Polish sausage....

VwlssWndr: I'm not going to bother clicking the link, but I was wondering: does it actually go to NRO, or does it link to a M:TG database or something instead?

Are you black or something?

BobtheFascist: Huh. Just last night the news said he still opposed it.

Exactly. Obama still says he opposes it. (Whether he opposes it enough to veto it, we'll see.) It's Libs in Congress who don't.

Phil Herup: I remember the firestorm of criticism that McCain got when he said this. Plus McCain wanted to get people their own insurance that they could own and take with them from job to job. They would not be at the mercy of the employer.


McCain had a great idea.

Obama bullshiatted you... he promise everyone Congressional level coverage while bashing McCains' superior plan. McCain actually had a plan, Obama had rhetoric.


Now you are going to get your benefits taxed anyway.

Ha Ha idiots... ha farking ha.


Most of you do not even know how stupid you are. He also swore that no family under the $250K mark would see a tax increase of any kind... that is already out the window.

Didn't he also bash Hillary for suggesting insurance be mandated? Now they want to charge a thousand bucks for not having it...

orbitalfreak: It is change. He said one thing, and changed his mind!
/ba-dum-tsch

However, we're only looking at the bill taxing a portion of health care benefits. From this article: (new window)
Last month, [Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max] Baucus [D-MT] said he did not support eliminating the exclusion but was eyeing a benefit cap. Experts have outlined two likely approaches: taxing health benefits for workers above a certain income level; or taxing benefits over a certain value, perhaps $14,000 a year.

In either case, it's going to tax employer-based health care (not government-given care), it's not going to tax everyone, and it's still not going to negatively impact those least able to afford care.

0_o only $14000 a year? They better up the earned income tax credit when they pass this otherwise the IRS is going to be squeezing blood from the black hole that is my salery.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: This thread is a waste of bandwidth. It's isn't hypocrisy when Obama does it.

Point out where "Obama does it", then.

Eh, you can't blame 'em for being mad about a president who actually admits he was wrong and changes his mind when new information and situations arise. They're just not used to well-reasoned thought being put above hard-headed insistence that all you do is right.

Funny how the Obamatons stay strictly away from threads like this.
One post about Palin and they jump in like sharks... or lawyers.

eudemonist: Didn't he also bash Hillary for suggesting insurance be mandated?



Who?

JunkyJu: Funny how the Obamatons stay strictly away from threads like this.



Oh yeah.

The threads where the subject is liberal fail... they just don't bother.

Reality messes up their fantasy circle jerks.

Well, at least he's finally seen the light. Divorcing health insurance from employment is the first big step to fixing a lot of the health care financing problems. The only reason employers continue to provide it is because it's a way of passing compensation to employees tax free.

Tax it as compensation, add an above the line deduction for premiums as we already do for the self-employed, and let people buy their own damn policies.

Cataholic: Divorcing health insurance from employment is the first big step to fixing a lot of the health care financing problems.

Well actually divorcing health insurance from health care is the way to fix health care's financing problems.

Vacation benefits should be taxed.

Sick day/personal day benefits need to be taxed.

Healthcare benefits need to be taxed.

They ALL have significant value and need to be declared as income.

Time for equality for the self-employed.

NYZooMan: Time for equality for the self-employed.



THIS.

X 1 million

Erebus1954: vomitsmuggler: Who cares? We elected Obama because he was black and flashy and that's cooler than old white men and slutty milfs from alaska.

Everyone knew he never had a real job before or ran a business, he was a community organizer- like al sharpton.

Don't blame him, blame whoever is typing words into the teleprompter.

He can't help himself.

I see he pulled his brains out by accident!!!!
Now that we have the proof can we get him out of office??

NYZooMan: Vacation benefits should be taxed.

Sick day/personal day benefits need to be taxed.

Healthcare benefits need to be taxed.

They ALL have significant value and need to be declared as income.

Time for equality for the self-employed.

I'm paid a salary. Most weeks I work far more than 40 hours with no OT. I get 2 weeks of sick days per year of which I use 3 - 5 at most. Explain to me why I should pay additional taxes on something I'm already taxed for (my salary).