They're probably still smarting over all the shots Franken has leveled at them over the years, especially Hannity. He might be nuts (Okay, he is nuts), but Al Franken savaged him in his books, you really think Hannity is going to let that go? Come on.

And really, if someone like Bill O'Reilly ran for and won office(I know,scary), you think Olbermann would cover it straight?

Their agony sustains me. Give me more.

Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

"BECK: This is like having me in the Senate. You don't want me as a senator. This is -- what is that? I mean --"

Finally. Something I can agree with him about.

mediablitz: "BECK: This is like having me in the Senate. You don't want me as a senator. This is -- what is that? I mean --"

Finally. Something I can agree with him about.

yeah but i would disagree with the analogy on its premise.

brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

So...

Coleman won at first and the recount was "suspicious" (you know, in that state-mandated kind of way).

Norm Coleman magnanimously decided to step aside and not push for his rightful place for the good of the state (and the bullshiat of the last 8 months either didn't happen or were just and not petty).

And Al Franken is an angry comedian who isn't sane.

Nice.

Oh, and did anyone notice that Michael farking Steele just came out and said that he doesn't think Franken was legitimately elected? Are you shiatting me?

I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

Elzar: I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

my guess would be that it has something to do with america being the greatest country ever given to the world by god.

exick: Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Wilford Brimley????

BritneysSpeculum: Wilford Brimley????

i didn't know that diabeetus had an elected official.

Elzar: I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

He has his real heart in a lockbox?

BritneysSpeculum: exick: Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Wilford Brimley????

Wilford Brimley stumped for McCain a couple times during the GOP primaries... and talked about his diabeetus.

BritneysSpeculum: exick: Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Wilford Brimley????


You learn something new every day:

Link (pops to Brimley supporting cock fighting)

"Actor Wilford Brimley spoke against the proposed ban Tuesday, saying he moved to New Mexico because of the state's respect for individual rights."

BLUE DOGS! BLUE DOGS!

Here is Wilford's stump speech: "John McCain--the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."

Fido McCokefiend: BLUE DOGS! BLUE DOGS!

Bloody William: So...

Coleman won at first and the recount was "suspicious" (you know, in that state-mandated kind of way).

No. Any election that is this close goes into mandatory recount. Try to keep up.

2wolves: Bloody William: So...

Coleman won at first and the recount was "suspicious" (you know, in that state-mandated kind of way).

No. Any election that is this close goes into mandatory recount. Try to keep up.

as a general rule, you should read the parentheticals also.

2wolves: Bloody William: So...

Coleman won at first and the recount was "suspicious" (you know, in that state-mandated kind of way).

No. Any election that is this close goes into mandatory recount. Try to keep up.

Yes. That was sort of the point I was trying to make in a sarcastic manner.

Fox News doesn't know what to do when reality infringes on them.

I love this whole "Franken is angry, insane and stupid" meme they're trying to create.
Once again, the Rovian tactic of project your own faults onto your enemy.

How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

I think I'll write Senator Franken's office and ask that he look into this.

Republicans: "He's a failed comedian"
Sane People: "Uh, he's had 30 year career that includes 3 Emmy awards and 5 best selling books"

Republicans: "He's just a partisan pundit with no qualifications"
Sane People: "Uh, he graduated cum laude from Harvard with a pol-sci degree. He also served as a fellow at the Kennedy School of Government"

Republicans: "That Stewart Smalley guy sucks and is teh ghey"
Sane People: "Uh, that's just a character he plays"

Republicans: "Tax Cheat!11!"
Sane People: "Uh, he just hired a bad accountant and paid the taxes to the wrong state, a problem that he fixed"

Republicans: "LIBURL JEW BABY-EATER ARUGULA 9/11 AIR AMERICA!"
Sane People: Facepalm.

Also, apropos of nothing, here's Al Franken verbally slapping Ann Coulter.

Code_Archeologist: Wilford Brimley stumped for McCain a couple times during the GOP primaries

No, Hannity is clinically retarded. That's much different than simply being nuts.

Your_Huckleberry: especially Hannity. He might be nuts (Okay, he is nuts),

Also, the Orange County Chopper whackos stumped for McCain at least once, too.

Mmmmm...all this head assplosion is giving me a lady boner.

WTF is a lady boner???

Eddie Adams from Torrance:

Also, apropos of nothing, here's Al Franken verbally slapping Ann Coulter.


Sweet. Thanks!

brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Uh, no offense, but I think you're off there. This isn't about a Democrat entertaineer winning office, this is about Al Franken winning office. It's personal, especially to the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. He blasted them in his books, they are not going to get over that.

exick: Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Well,considering the ratio of Left Leaning showbiz types to Right Leaning showbiz types is probably something like nine or ten to one, why get in a huff over some talking point "Hollywood Elite" crack?

Your_Huckleberry: Uh, no offense, but I think you're off there. This isn't about a Democrat entertaineer winning office, this is about Al Franken winning office. It's personal, especially to the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. He blasted them in his books, they are not going to get over that.

And the way it sticks in their craw is delicious.

The history between Franken and Fox goes well beyond Franken calling out a few individuals by name. Here's a delightful little trip down memory lane:

Fox News Drops Franken Lawsuit

(AP) Fox News dropped its lawsuit against Al Franken on Monday, three days after a federal judge refused to block the liberal humorist from using the Fox slogan "Fair and Balanced" on the cover of his book.

The lawsuit had sought unspecified damages from Franken and Penguin Group, publisher of "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right."

"It's time to return Al Franken to the obscurity that he's normally accustomed to," Fox News spokeswoman Irena Steffen said.

. . .

[Judge Denny Chin] said Fox's case was "wholly without merit," and the trademark "Fair and Balanced," registered by Fox in 1998, was weak. He also said the network was "trying to undermine the First Amendment."

Yeah, they're gonna be butthurt for a while.

A lady boner is all the exciting feeling of a regular boner, but no boner.

/ill equipped

exick: Dwight Schultz

Dwight Schultz? Barclay, NO!

exick: brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Fred Thompson (Asst. U.S. Attorney) and Ben Stein (speechwriter, Nixon Administration) started in government service, then went into entertainment, and in Thompson's case, back into politics. I frankly don't care whether a politician has a background in entertainment. I don't think an entertainer's opinion about anything is any more or less important than anyone else, though. Just the mere fact that they have more attention being paid to them doesn't validate their politics. But, if they actually run for office, at least they are actually putting themselves out there in a constructive manner.

lbi669: Mmmmm...all this head assplosion is giving me a lady boner.

skipsargent: WTF is a lady boner???

I am not sure... but my pants are getting tighter for some mysterious reason when I think about it.

Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

a) Because Fox News is a cable channel and the FCC has no control over it?
b) Because there are no laws that say that news have to be the truth.
c) is for cookies, and that's good enough for me.

Flab: Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

a) Because Fox News is a cable channel and the FCC has no control over it?
b) Because there are no laws that say that news have to be the truth.
c) is for cookies, and that's good enough for me.

All right, you got me on a). And b) is correct too; I just hate that they're allowed to continue calling it "news". But c), well, since you put it that way...

Your Faith is Creepy: I just hate that they're allowed to continue calling it "news"

So do I, but if there were laws governing truth in the news, where would the line be drawn? Would TV stations be fined if their weather report turned out wrong?

The tin-foil hat wearing crowd would probably say that there are no such provisions in the laws, specifically so that the Gubmint can easily catapult its propaganda.

Nabb1: Ben Stein (speechwriter, Nixon Administration)

Cracks me up that in those new commercials Ben Stein is doing where he's handcuffed to Shaq, he's identified as an economist!

Your Faith is Creepy: I just hate that they're allowed to continue calling it "news"


The Supreme Court upheld FOX's position that just because it was a news program didn't mean that they had to tell the truth. The case went all the way to SCOTUS after FOX fires a few people who made a stink about a segment FOX aired. They found out before the program went on that the info they had was a crock and wanted the piece pulled or at least updated. FOX liked the lie better and ran it. SCOTUS said that's fine, they have no obligation to report facts...

Your_Huckleberry: brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Uh, no offense, but I think you're off there. This isn't about a Democrat entertaineer winning office, this is about Al Franken winning office. It's personal, especially to the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. He blasted them in his books, they are not going to get over that.

Yes, his targets have every reason to start in on him, but it doesn't explain the average Republican. My family is going NUTS about this. A few of my die-hard Republican friends are groaning. When I got my taxes done, my accountant ranted about the guy when he saw that I'd contributed to Franken's campaign. And I've asked every single one of them what they know about Al Franken outside of his SNL days. They can't come up with a specific answer, only that he's a comedian who failed at liberal talk-radio.

I've read his books--he's an exceptionally smart man. He also employs scores of interns just to do fact-checking for him. I can't wait to see what he does in the Senate.

Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

FL Appellate Court Rules that FoxNews Can Legally Lie (new window)

It's a 1st Amendment issue. If any gov't agency interferes with any part of their broadcast just because it's untrue, then you get a state-run media.

brigid_fitch: Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

FL Appellate Court Rules that FoxNews Can Legally Lie (new window)

It's a 1st Amendment issue. If any gov't agency interferes with any part of their broadcast just because it's untrue, then you get a state-run media.

That's true, and I'm not sure I would even want the case to have gone the other way, considering the ramifications.

However, it's not so much that the court ruled that way than it's that FOX News basically went to court to defend their ability to lie.

brigid_fitch: Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

FL Appellate Court Rules that FoxNews Can Legally Lie (new window)

It's a 1st Amendment issue. If any gov't agency interferes with any part of their broadcast just because it's untrue, then you get a state-run media.

Stupid link: Fark won't attach it, so you'll have to copypasta:
http://ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_ t o_misinform_public.html

brigid_fitch: Your_Huckleberry: brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Uh, no offense, but I think you're off there. This isn't about a Democrat entertaineer winning office, this is about Al Franken winning office. It's personal, especially to the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. He blasted them in his books, they are not going to get over that.

Yes, his targets have every reason to start in on him, but it doesn't explain the average Republican. My family is going NUTS about this. A few of my die-hard Republican friends are groaning. When I got my taxes done, my accountant ranted about the guy when he saw that I'd contributed to Franken's campaign. And I've asked every single one of them what they know about Al Franken outside of his SNL days. They can't come up with a specific answer, only that he's a comedian who failed at liberal talk-radio.

I've read his books--he's an exceptionally smart man. He also employs scores of interns just to do fact-checking for him. I can't wait to see what he does in the Senate.

I wonder if he's going to end up being, well, boring. I think there's a chance Sen.Franken will be a disapointment to both Fox and MSNBC viewers. He's certainly smart enough to know he can't be the heavy hitter of his books and such, he's probably just going to try to do his job and stay out of the limelight. So he may not provide the lightning rod comments that piss off the Right that Fox can pounce on. On the same time, he can't keep unloading the attacks like he used to that MSNBC and their viewers love. I bet he becomes a hot ticket on the Sunday talk shows maybe even the one on Fox, but I don't know how big of a deal he'll be. And it's not like he rolls in with an overwelming margin of victory.

Elzar I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

He's really trying to say 'In my hardened heart'.

Bloody William: However, it's not so much that the court ruled that way than it's that FOX News basically went to court to defend their ability to lie.

What, they were just about to hand over a bunch of money in a lawsuit against them in which they had absolutely no legal liability whatsoever? What do you EXPECT them to do?

GLEN BECK: "It shows how crazy our country has gone. You don't want me as a senator you don't want Al Franken as a senator... It shows that we have lost our minds. It's like we've slipped through a worm hole. 'This looks like the country i grew up in but... no Al Franken would never be a senator'. "



Dr. Emmett Brown: Then tell me, "Future Boy", who's President in the United States in 1985?
Marty McFly: Ronald Reagan.
Dr. Emmett Brown: Ronald Reagan? The actor?
[chuckles in disbelief]
Dr. Emmett Brown: Then who's VICE-President? Jerry Lewis?
[rushing out and down a hill toward his laboratory]
Dr. Emmett Brown: I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady!
Marty McFly: [following Doc] Whoa! Wait! Doc!
Dr. Emmett Brown: And Jack Benny is Secretary of the Treasury.

Crush these tards into paste. They offer nothing of value.