They're probably still smarting over all the shots Franken has leveled at them over the years, especially Hannity. He might be nuts (Okay, he is nuts), but Al Franken savaged him in his books, you really think Hannity is going to let that go? Come on.

And really, if someone like Bill O'Reilly ran for and won office(I know,scary), you think Olbermann would cover it straight?

Their agony sustains me. Give me more.

Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

"BECK: This is like having me in the Senate. You don't want me as a senator. This is -- what is that? I mean --"

Finally. Something I can agree with him about.

mediablitz: "BECK: This is like having me in the Senate. You don't want me as a senator. This is -- what is that? I mean --"

Finally. Something I can agree with him about.

yeah but i would disagree with the analogy on its premise.

brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

So...

Coleman won at first and the recount was "suspicious" (you know, in that state-mandated kind of way).

Norm Coleman magnanimously decided to step aside and not push for his rightful place for the good of the state (and the bullshiat of the last 8 months either didn't happen or were just and not petty).

And Al Franken is an angry comedian who isn't sane.

Nice.

Oh, and did anyone notice that Michael farking Steele just came out and said that he doesn't think Franken was legitimately elected? Are you shiatting me?

I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

Elzar: I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

my guess would be that it has something to do with america being the greatest country ever given to the world by god.

exick: Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Wilford Brimley????

BritneysSpeculum: Wilford Brimley????

i didn't know that diabeetus had an elected official.

Elzar: I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

He has his real heart in a lockbox?

BritneysSpeculum: exick: Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Wilford Brimley????

Wilford Brimley stumped for McCain a couple times during the GOP primaries... and talked about his diabeetus.

BritneysSpeculum: exick: Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Wilford Brimley????


You learn something new every day:

Link (pops to Brimley supporting cock fighting)

"Actor Wilford Brimley spoke against the proposed ban Tuesday, saying he moved to New Mexico because of the state's respect for individual rights."

BLUE DOGS! BLUE DOGS!

Here is Wilford's stump speech: "John McCain--the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."

Fido McCokefiend: BLUE DOGS! BLUE DOGS!

Bloody William: So...

Coleman won at first and the recount was "suspicious" (you know, in that state-mandated kind of way).

No. Any election that is this close goes into mandatory recount. Try to keep up.

2wolves: Bloody William: So...

Coleman won at first and the recount was "suspicious" (you know, in that state-mandated kind of way).

No. Any election that is this close goes into mandatory recount. Try to keep up.

as a general rule, you should read the parentheticals also.

2wolves: Bloody William: So...

Coleman won at first and the recount was "suspicious" (you know, in that state-mandated kind of way).

No. Any election that is this close goes into mandatory recount. Try to keep up.

Yes. That was sort of the point I was trying to make in a sarcastic manner.

Fox News doesn't know what to do when reality infringes on them.

I love this whole "Franken is angry, insane and stupid" meme they're trying to create.
Once again, the Rovian tactic of project your own faults onto your enemy.

How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

I think I'll write Senator Franken's office and ask that he look into this.

Republicans: "He's a failed comedian"
Sane People: "Uh, he's had 30 year career that includes 3 Emmy awards and 5 best selling books"

Republicans: "He's just a partisan pundit with no qualifications"
Sane People: "Uh, he graduated cum laude from Harvard with a pol-sci degree. He also served as a fellow at the Kennedy School of Government"

Republicans: "That Stewart Smalley guy sucks and is teh ghey"
Sane People: "Uh, that's just a character he plays"

Republicans: "Tax Cheat!11!"
Sane People: "Uh, he just hired a bad accountant and paid the taxes to the wrong state, a problem that he fixed"

Republicans: "LIBURL JEW BABY-EATER ARUGULA 9/11 AIR AMERICA!"
Sane People: Facepalm.

Also, apropos of nothing, here's Al Franken verbally slapping Ann Coulter.

Code_Archeologist: Wilford Brimley stumped for McCain a couple times during the GOP primaries

No, Hannity is clinically retarded. That's much different than simply being nuts.

Your_Huckleberry: especially Hannity. He might be nuts (Okay, he is nuts),

Also, the Orange County Chopper whackos stumped for McCain at least once, too.

Mmmmm...all this head assplosion is giving me a lady boner.

WTF is a lady boner???

Eddie Adams from Torrance:

Also, apropos of nothing, here's Al Franken verbally slapping Ann Coulter.


Sweet. Thanks!

brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Uh, no offense, but I think you're off there. This isn't about a Democrat entertaineer winning office, this is about Al Franken winning office. It's personal, especially to the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. He blasted them in his books, they are not going to get over that.

exick: Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Well,considering the ratio of Left Leaning showbiz types to Right Leaning showbiz types is probably something like nine or ten to one, why get in a huff over some talking point "Hollywood Elite" crack?

Your_Huckleberry: Uh, no offense, but I think you're off there. This isn't about a Democrat entertaineer winning office, this is about Al Franken winning office. It's personal, especially to the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. He blasted them in his books, they are not going to get over that.

And the way it sticks in their craw is delicious.

The history between Franken and Fox goes well beyond Franken calling out a few individuals by name. Here's a delightful little trip down memory lane:

Fox News Drops Franken Lawsuit

(AP) Fox News dropped its lawsuit against Al Franken on Monday, three days after a federal judge refused to block the liberal humorist from using the Fox slogan "Fair and Balanced" on the cover of his book.

The lawsuit had sought unspecified damages from Franken and Penguin Group, publisher of "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right."

"It's time to return Al Franken to the obscurity that he's normally accustomed to," Fox News spokeswoman Irena Steffen said.

. . .

[Judge Denny Chin] said Fox's case was "wholly without merit," and the trademark "Fair and Balanced," registered by Fox in 1998, was weak. He also said the network was "trying to undermine the First Amendment."

Yeah, they're gonna be butthurt for a while.

A lady boner is all the exciting feeling of a regular boner, but no boner.

/ill equipped

exick: Dwight Schultz

Dwight Schultz? Barclay, NO!

exick: brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Not to mention Clint Eastwood (mayor of Carmel, CA), Charlton Heston, Robert Duvall, Dennis Hopper, Chuck Norris, Mel Gibson, Wilford Brimley, Dwight Schultz, or Ben Stein. It's only Hollywood elitism when the other guys do it.

Fred Thompson (Asst. U.S. Attorney) and Ben Stein (speechwriter, Nixon Administration) started in government service, then went into entertainment, and in Thompson's case, back into politics. I frankly don't care whether a politician has a background in entertainment. I don't think an entertainer's opinion about anything is any more or less important than anyone else, though. Just the mere fact that they have more attention being paid to them doesn't validate their politics. But, if they actually run for office, at least they are actually putting themselves out there in a constructive manner.

lbi669: Mmmmm...all this head assplosion is giving me a lady boner.

skipsargent: WTF is a lady boner???

I am not sure... but my pants are getting tighter for some mysterious reason when I think about it.

Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

a) Because Fox News is a cable channel and the FCC has no control over it?
b) Because there are no laws that say that news have to be the truth.
c) is for cookies, and that's good enough for me.

Flab: Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

a) Because Fox News is a cable channel and the FCC has no control over it?
b) Because there are no laws that say that news have to be the truth.
c) is for cookies, and that's good enough for me.

All right, you got me on a). And b) is correct too; I just hate that they're allowed to continue calling it "news". But c), well, since you put it that way...

Your Faith is Creepy: I just hate that they're allowed to continue calling it "news"

So do I, but if there were laws governing truth in the news, where would the line be drawn? Would TV stations be fined if their weather report turned out wrong?

The tin-foil hat wearing crowd would probably say that there are no such provisions in the laws, specifically so that the Gubmint can easily catapult its propaganda.

Nabb1: Ben Stein (speechwriter, Nixon Administration)

Cracks me up that in those new commercials Ben Stein is doing where he's handcuffed to Shaq, he's identified as an economist!

Your Faith is Creepy: I just hate that they're allowed to continue calling it "news"


The Supreme Court upheld FOX's position that just because it was a news program didn't mean that they had to tell the truth. The case went all the way to SCOTUS after FOX fires a few people who made a stink about a segment FOX aired. They found out before the program went on that the info they had was a crock and wanted the piece pulled or at least updated. FOX liked the lie better and ran it. SCOTUS said that's fine, they have no obligation to report facts...

Your_Huckleberry: brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Uh, no offense, but I think you're off there. This isn't about a Democrat entertaineer winning office, this is about Al Franken winning office. It's personal, especially to the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. He blasted them in his books, they are not going to get over that.

Yes, his targets have every reason to start in on him, but it doesn't explain the average Republican. My family is going NUTS about this. A few of my die-hard Republican friends are groaning. When I got my taxes done, my accountant ranted about the guy when he saw that I'd contributed to Franken's campaign. And I've asked every single one of them what they know about Al Franken outside of his SNL days. They can't come up with a specific answer, only that he's a comedian who failed at liberal talk-radio.

I've read his books--he's an exceptionally smart man. He also employs scores of interns just to do fact-checking for him. I can't wait to see what he does in the Senate.

Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

FL Appellate Court Rules that FoxNews Can Legally Lie (new window)

It's a 1st Amendment issue. If any gov't agency interferes with any part of their broadcast just because it's untrue, then you get a state-run media.

brigid_fitch: Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

FL Appellate Court Rules that FoxNews Can Legally Lie (new window)

It's a 1st Amendment issue. If any gov't agency interferes with any part of their broadcast just because it's untrue, then you get a state-run media.

That's true, and I'm not sure I would even want the case to have gone the other way, considering the ramifications.

However, it's not so much that the court ruled that way than it's that FOX News basically went to court to defend their ability to lie.

brigid_fitch: Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

FL Appellate Court Rules that FoxNews Can Legally Lie (new window)

It's a 1st Amendment issue. If any gov't agency interferes with any part of their broadcast just because it's untrue, then you get a state-run media.

Stupid link: Fark won't attach it, so you'll have to copypasta:
http://ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_ t o_misinform_public.html

brigid_fitch: Your_Huckleberry: brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Uh, no offense, but I think you're off there. This isn't about a Democrat entertaineer winning office, this is about Al Franken winning office. It's personal, especially to the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. He blasted them in his books, they are not going to get over that.

Yes, his targets have every reason to start in on him, but it doesn't explain the average Republican. My family is going NUTS about this. A few of my die-hard Republican friends are groaning. When I got my taxes done, my accountant ranted about the guy when he saw that I'd contributed to Franken's campaign. And I've asked every single one of them what they know about Al Franken outside of his SNL days. They can't come up with a specific answer, only that he's a comedian who failed at liberal talk-radio.

I've read his books--he's an exceptionally smart man. He also employs scores of interns just to do fact-checking for him. I can't wait to see what he does in the Senate.

I wonder if he's going to end up being, well, boring. I think there's a chance Sen.Franken will be a disapointment to both Fox and MSNBC viewers. He's certainly smart enough to know he can't be the heavy hitter of his books and such, he's probably just going to try to do his job and stay out of the limelight. So he may not provide the lightning rod comments that piss off the Right that Fox can pounce on. On the same time, he can't keep unloading the attacks like he used to that MSNBC and their viewers love. I bet he becomes a hot ticket on the Sunday talk shows maybe even the one on Fox, but I don't know how big of a deal he'll be. And it's not like he rolls in with an overwelming margin of victory.

Elzar I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

He's really trying to say 'In my hardened heart'.

Bloody William: However, it's not so much that the court ruled that way than it's that FOX News basically went to court to defend their ability to lie.

What, they were just about to hand over a bunch of money in a lawsuit against them in which they had absolutely no legal liability whatsoever? What do you EXPECT them to do?

GLEN BECK: "It shows how crazy our country has gone. You don't want me as a senator you don't want Al Franken as a senator... It shows that we have lost our minds. It's like we've slipped through a worm hole. 'This looks like the country i grew up in but... no Al Franken would never be a senator'. "



Dr. Emmett Brown: Then tell me, "Future Boy", who's President in the United States in 1985?
Marty McFly: Ronald Reagan.
Dr. Emmett Brown: Ronald Reagan? The actor?
[chuckles in disbelief]
Dr. Emmett Brown: Then who's VICE-President? Jerry Lewis?
[rushing out and down a hill toward his laboratory]
Dr. Emmett Brown: I suppose Jane Wyman is the First Lady!
Marty McFly: [following Doc] Whoa! Wait! Doc!
Dr. Emmett Brown: And Jack Benny is Secretary of the Treasury.

Crush these tards into paste. They offer nothing of value.

Lady Boner would be an awesome name for a band.

thomps: Elzar: I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

It's supposed to mean you are speaking from the bottom of your soul but generally is accepted as meaning I'm gonna pull this one outta my arse throw it at the wall and see if it sticks. Same theory applies with, "in all honesty."

If you really need to preface an opinion with a statement validating your sincerity, you can bet it's completely fabricated hogwash.

"I'm in denial."

Truer words have rarely been spoken on Fox News...

pwhp_67: The Supreme Court upheld FOX's position that just because it was a news program didn't mean that they had to tell the truth. The case went all the way to SCOTUS after FOX fires a few people who made a stink about a segment FOX aired. They found out before the program went on that the info they had was a crock and wanted the piece pulled or at least updated. FOX liked the lie better and ran it. SCOTUS said that's fine, they have no obligation to report facts...

That was in the documentary The Corporation (new window). A Fox News affiliate in Florida was covering the effects of bovine growth hormone (rBGH) which was made by Monsanto. Monsanto threatened legal action and the pulling of their ads (which include products such as RoundUp and Splenda) from Fox, which caused the producers at the Fox News affiliate to cave. They told the reporters to rewrite the story, the reporters refused and were fired.

The reporters took the Fox News affiliate to court under the whistlerblower's protection act as they had proof from the Fox News affiliate's lawyer that they were fired in retaliation for not editing the story the way the producers wanted them to. They lost their whistlerblower claim as the court ruled that Fox News affiliate had no obligation to tell the truth when reporting the news.

Funny, I don't recall the outrage over these two?

skipsargent WTF is a lady boner???



A wide-on.

It is amazing to me that anyone takes FOX seriously.

How can you take seriously a 'news corporation' that employs Ann Coulter, Sean Hannnity, Bill O'Reilly and Michelle Malkin??

Not to mention Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade.

vernonFL: It is amazing to me that anyone takes FOX seriously.

How can you take seriously a 'news corporation' that employs Ann Coulter, Sean Hannnity, Bill O'Reilly and Michelle Malkin??

Not to mention Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade.

Don't forget Karl Rove.

mediablitz: Elzar: I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

He has his real heart in a lockbox?

Wait, he has a heart to begin with?

I watched a Fox news 'panel', and it was Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer and Mara Liason.

Who are they kidding? I mean, really?

GIS for "Lady Boner"

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Republicans: "He's a failed comedian"
Sane People: "Uh, he's had 30 year career that includes 3 Emmy awards and 5 best selling books"

Republicans: "He's just a partisan pundit with no qualifications"
Sane People: "Uh, he graduated cum laude from Harvard with a pol-sci degree. He also served as a fellow at the Kennedy School of Government"

Republicans: "That Stewart Smalley guy sucks and is teh ghey"
Sane People: "Uh, that's just a character he plays"

Republicans: "Tax Cheat!11!"
Sane People: "Uh, he just hired a bad accountant and paid the taxes to the wrong state, a problem that he fixed"

Republicans: "LIBURL JEW BABY-EATER ARUGULA 9/11 AIR AMERICA!"
Sane People: Facepalm.

Also, apropos of nothing, here's Al Franken verbally slapping Ann Coulter.

Ahhhh, the sweet sound of victory. How it makes living worthwhile. :)

The "first vote tally" is an estimate.

They basically count all the easy votes to see if someone obviously won.

The real count doesn't happen until the recount.

Your Faith is Creepy: Flab: Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

a) Because Fox News is a cable channel and the FCC has no control over it?
b) Because there are no laws that say that news have to be the truth.
c) is for cookies, and that's good enough for me.

All right, you got me on a). And b) is correct too; I just hate that they're allowed to continue calling it "news". But c), well, since you put it that way...

LOL.

I can't be the only person that wants to smack Beck every time he does that "look up" thing he does?

"BECK: This is like having me in the Senate. You don't want me as a senator. This is -- what is that? I mean --"

Finally. Something I can agree with him about.

I was discussing this with a conservative friend at work. First he said, he wouldn't vote for Al Franken, but he was elected.

Then I mentioned the Glen Beck quote. My friend said, "Let me corrent that, I wouldn't vote for Al Franken, unless he was running against Glen Beck."

holiday_inn_in_cambodia: GIS for "Lady Boner"

Oh great. Now that image will be in my mind whenever I hear, speak, or even think the words "Lady Boner".

Thanks. A LOT.

mediablitz: "BECK: This is like having me in the Senate. You don't want me as a senator. This is -- what is that? I mean --"

Finally. Something I can agree with him about.

I don't want that guy as Railroad Commissioner. I don't think he's mentally stable enough to work in the post office. God knows how he got on television

brigid_fitch: brigid_fitch: Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

FL Appellate Court Rules that FoxNews Can Legally Lie (new window)

It's a 1st Amendment issue. If any gov't agency interferes with any part of their broadcast just because it's untrue, then you get a state-run media.

Stupid link: Fark won't attach it, so you'll have to copypasta:
http://ceasespin.org/ceasespin_blog/ceasespin_blogger_files/fox_news_gets_okay_ t o_misinform_public.html

Yeah but we are not saying the government imposes censorship we are saying courts laws against fraud, it's different.


If I sell you a bar of gold and you find out later it's a brick of iron that is painted gold can I say "Well the court has no right to define what 'gold' is?" "They are taking my 1st amendment away of free speech"?


There is a difference from censorship and someone lying saying something is true when they know it is not.

Those are two different things.

Three years to get it rolling - grassroots campaign people, we can make it happen!

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Republicans: "He's a failed comedian"
Sane People: "Uh, he's had 30 year career that includes 3 Emmy awards and 5 best selling books"

Republicans: "He's just a partisan pundit with no qualifications"
Sane People: "Uh, he graduated cum laude from Harvard with a pol-sci degree. He also served as a fellow at the Kennedy School of Government"

Republicans: "That Stewart Smalley guy sucks and is teh ghey"
Sane People: "Uh, that's just a character he plays"

Finally, something we agree on. I say keep Gitmo open, if only for the whoever is responsible for that awful movie.

Here is Wilford's stump speech: "John McCain--the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."

Would like a word with Captain Diabeetus:

Your Faith is Creepy: holiday_inn_in_cambodia: GIS for "Lady Boner"

Oh great. Now that image will be in my mind whenever I hear, speak, or even think the words "Lady Boner".

Thanks. A LOT.

/hands you brain bleach. Trust me, it's worth it.

When are our Democratic Party overlords going to finish their woldwide gloat-a-thon and actually start working?

JQPublic: When are our Democratic Party overlords going to finish their woldwide gloat-a-thon and actually start working?

Awesome, so now the Dems have done nothing. So everything is still the Republicans' fault. Got it.

al franken is a self-righteous douche and all, but... he still won. no shenanigans or red flags like florida '00 or Iran 1388. you can cry about his policies and whatever, but it's legit. sorry. now stfu and gbtw.
/same people who think obama was born in kenya. no credibility whatsoever.

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Here is Wilford's stump speech: "John McCain--the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."

Would like a word with Captain Diabeetus:

wat?

RevMercutio: JQPublic: When are our Democratic Party overlords going to finish their woldwide gloat-a-thon and actually start working?

Awesome, so now the Dems have done nothing. So everything is still the Republicans' fault. Got it.

I'm confused. I thought that Darth Pelosi and Obama were ruining our country, and going to turn us into a Communist-Terrorist State with Socialized Medicine and forced abortions?

Which is it? They're not doing a damn thing, or they're ruining us with their excess? You can't have it both ways. Get your stories straight O Wing Nuts, and get back to us.

brainiac-dumdum: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Here is Wilford's stump speech: "John McCain--the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."

Would like a word with Captain Diabeetus:

wat?

Wilford plagarized from Bret. That was his motto.

/sports entertainment wrestling reference

From the Wall Street Journal. It's like randomjsa got a copy editor.

Gretchen Carlson responded to Kilmeade by again falsely claiming that Coleman "won in the original election."

Isn't this the same woman who compared Ahmadinejad's "win" to Obama's? What a twat.

Jeff73: Three years to get it rolling - grassroots campaign people, we can make it happen!

Oh Hells no. Ben Stein is a funny guy, but I think he did enough damage with his defense of Nixon, thank you very much. That, and this little blurb:

On August 18, 2007, on Fox News Channel's Cavuto on Business, Stein appeared with other financial experts dismissing worries of a coming credit crunch. The lone dissenter was Peter Schiff, who predicted that the mortgage sector would create a crisis leading to massive recession, a view that produced laughter from the other experts. Stein strongly recommended investing in then-troubled financial institutions.

Ben Stein: The credit crunch is way overblown. The [financial institutions] are being given away; they're so unbelievably cheap...The subprime problem is a problem, but it's a tiny problem in the context of this economy...It's a buying opportunity, especially for the financials, maybe like I've never seen before in my entire life.

Peter Schiff: This is just getting started. It's not just subprimes. This is a problem for the entire mortgage industry. It's not just people with bad credit that committed to mortgages they couldn't afford. It's not just people with bad credit who are going to see their home equity vanish... This is going to be an enormous credit crunch...

Neil Cavuto: You must be a laugh-riot at parties.
(LAUGHTER)


Ben Stein: ...subprime is tiny. Subprime is a tiny, tiny blip.

Peter Schiff: It's not tiny. And again, it's not just subprime. It's the entire mortgage market.
Ben Stein: You're simply wrong about that... Defaults for the whole mortgage market are tiny.

Ben Stein: I think stocks will be a heck of a lot higher a year from now than they are now.

hubiestubert:
Oh Hells no. Ben Stein is a funny guy, but I think he did enough damage with his defense of Nixon, thank you very much. That, and this little blurb:

Well, in all fairness, Stein worked as a speechwriter for Nixon long before he was known as a comedy figure. Not a surprise.

Your_Huckleberry: They're probably still smarting over all the shots Franken has leveled at them over the years, especially Hannity. He might be nuts (Okay, he is nuts), but Al Franken savaged him in his books, you really think Hannity is going to let that go? Come on.

And really, if someone like Bill O'Reilly ran for and won office(I know,scary), you think Olbermann would cover it straight?

No, but I also don't think O'Reilly would do that. It would mean he risked losing. The man can't even stand being interviewed on NPR without pitching a hissy fit, he can't stand the cold harsh light of an election. He's comfortable where he is, on his show, able to cut off anyone who comes close to beating him in an argument.

IIRC the only person to ever get him to admit he might be wrong was. . . Al Franken.

JQPublic: When are our Democratic Party overlords going to finish their woldwide gloat-a-thon and actually start working?

Yeah when are they going to pass a stimulus package, climate change bill, turn over Iraq to the Iraqis, or fix health care.


Oh wait!

Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

I think I'll write Senator Franken's office and ask that he look into this.

Because Fox News is not broadcast on public airwaves and the FCC has no authority to look into it?

Why is it that people don't get this? Besides the major networks, the FCC has no power. The other channels are censored because they choose to be censored because they don't want people biatching to their advertisers. It has nothing to do with the FCC.

Plus, there's very few things you can do to make someone look sympathetic than sick the FCC on them.

Franken was a comedian. He is now a senator.

Franken was an Emmy winner. He is now a senator.

Franken was cum laude from Harvard. He is now a senator.

Limbaugh was an idiot. He is still an idiot.

Bonanza Jellybean

This literally made me giggle. Not laugh. Giggle.

JQPublic: When are our Democratic Party overlords going to finish their woldwide gloat-a-thon and actually start working?

Ladies and gentlemen, today's Republican Party. Tie up the election results in court for months, then complain that Al Franken isn't working hard enough.

kronicfeld: Bloody William: However, it's not so much that the court ruled that way than it's that FOX News basically went to court to defend their ability to lie.

What, they were just about to hand over a bunch of money in a lawsuit against them in which they had absolutely no legal liability whatsoever? What do you EXPECT them to do?

Not air a segment they know to be false?

WFern: Isn't this the same woman who compared Ahmadinejad's "win" to Obama's? What a twat.

I can't say I really like that word... but if I had to apply it to someone, she'd be that person. She's so... insipid.

It's funny, but there is a serious side: A lot of the young children of Fox News Channel hosts and crew got molested Tuesday night. So yes, it's amusing to watch the far right take it in the shorts, but let's not forget who these people take it out on.

AntiNerd: Franken was a comedian. He is now a senator.

Franken was an Emmy winner. He is now a senator.

Franken was cum laude from Harvard. He is now a senator.

Limbaugh was an idiot. He is still an idiot.

You forgot fat. Limbaugh is still a big fat idiot. And that is the real crux of the matter for folks. Is that a sacred and Oxycotin munching cow was skewered years ago by Franken in such a way that it was really hard to combat the charges made against him--since he used Limbaugh's own words. And worse, Franken did so without being a member of anyone's campaign, so there was only a trail back to Franken himself, and unfortunately, Limbaugh never saw fit to have him on the show to refute any of his claims.

What's going to be fun, is that now you have Al Franken possibly sponsoring legislation, and Kumar working for the Obama Administration. And the grim spectre of Jon Stewart just floating out there and no one is going to be so bold as to put him on their shows right now.

Sadly, the Democrats really do have the better comedians. Dennis Miller sort of lost his edge when he started swinging for the fences for the crazier sections of the Right Wing. Worse, they seem to be putting these folks to work, as opposed to trying to draft action stars...

propasaurus: I love this whole "Franken is angry, insane and stupid" meme they're trying to create.
Once again, the Rovian tactic of project your own faults onto your enemy.

Have you noticed wing nuts call anyone they don't like "angry"?

Obama's "angry."
Michelle Obama's "angry." Actually, in this link she's "an angry black harridan."
Sotomayor is "angry."
Barney Frank is "angry."
Pelosi is "angry."
Jon Stewart is "angry."
Rahm Emanuel is "angry."

They haven't been calling Hillary Clinton angry lately though. Dunno why.

I don't know how Jon Stewart got in there. I think I was looking for a link for someone else. Looking for "angry" as applied to liberal-leaning people is like finding rainbows at a NASCAR race.

Lumi: I don't know how Jon Stewart got in there.

Probably due to the assrape he gave Jim Kramer.

I_Hate_Iowa: From the Wall Street Journal. It's like randomjsa got a copy editor.

FTFA:

"What Mr. Franken understood was that courts would later be loathe to overrule decisions made by the canvassing board, however arbitrary those decisions were."

The WSJ needs copy editors. Or maybe just people who can spell. Or know their homonyms.

FFS, Rupert, piss out a few grand to hire one.

lbi669: A lady boner is all the exciting feeling of a regular boner, but no boner.

/ill equipped

Tumescence?

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Here is Wilford's stump speech: "John McCain--the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."

Would like a word with Captain Diabeetus:

Brett Hull is so cool.

I wonder how many people joining a boycott of all products advertised on Fox News it would take to get advertisers to pull out enough to get Fox news' attention?

Lumi: They haven't been calling Hillary Clinton angry lately though. Dunno why.

I've wondered that as well. Part of it might be that she is busy over at State and below their radar. Another part is that they might think that her career is peaked and can't go any higher, so she is no longer a threat. Of course if you see her start running for president after Obama's 8 years are up then it will be a whole new game. I don't think she will, though.

Elzar: I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

It means he isn't thinking with his brain of brains.

I understand why he took it this far, and I understand why he stopped it today. He did it for the people of Minnesota.


Yeah, Coleman kept this charade up for 8 farking months for the people of Minnesota. Give me a break.

Christian Bale: I understand why he took it this far, and I understand why he stopped it today. He did it for the people of Minnesota.


Yeah, Coleman kept this charade up for 8 farking months for the people of Minnesota. Give me a break.

ITS called being professional! I thought you might know a thing or two about it

Lumi: propasaurus: I love this whole "Franken is angry, insane and stupid" meme they're trying to create.
Once again, the Rovian tactic of project your own faults onto your enemy.

Have you noticed wing nuts call anyone they don't like "angry"?

Obama's "angry."
Michelle Obama's "angry." Actually, in this link she's "an angry black harridan."
Sotomayor is "angry."
Barney Frank is "angry."
Pelosi is "angry."
Jon Stewart is "angry."
Rahm Emanuel is "angry."

They haven't been calling Hillary Clinton angry lately though. Dunno why.

I don't know how Jon Stewart got in there. I think I was looking for a link for someone else. Looking for "angry" as applied to liberal-leaning people is like finding rainbows at a NASCAR race.

I dont think Joe Scarb said angry enough

Sad faces at Fox "News" generally mean good news for humanity.

lbi669: no boner

Is that your clit? It's like a pinky:

NSFW: http://www.moneyshottheseries.com/tmsts004.html

Your_Huckleberry: They're probably still smarting over all the shots Franken has leveled at them over the years, especially Hannity. He might be nuts (Okay, he is nuts), but Al Franken savaged him in his books, you really think Hannity is going to let that go? Come on.

And really, if someone like Bill O'Reilly ran for and won office(I know,scary), you think Olbermann would cover it straight?

He was elected by the people of Minnesota. The Foxxies are denying it. They are full of shiat. Your equating these nuts to Olbermann is silly.

I live to shiat on republicans. More please.

If Fox gets angry enough, maybe they'll sue Franken again (like when they accused him of 'stealing' their "fair and balanced" "trademark" which he used on the cover of one of his books) and were literally laughed out of court in a summary proceeding by the judge.

A repeat of this kind of thing would be very entertaining.

Yea, will this is fair game. Bush stole two elections rigging diebold machines, so fair is fair.

I'm not sure how this could make me happier. Maybe if O'Reilly got chlamydia from a loofa, that would make it better. But that's all that comes to mind.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Yea, will this is fair game. Bush stole two elections rigging diebold machines, so fair is fair.

Oh, nice bait, 3 Butt Cheeks.

Fjornir: I wonder how many people joining a boycott of all products advertised on Fox News it would take to get advertisers to pull out enough to get Fox news' attention?

A lot. All it takes is a few hundred pissed off moral, Christian folk to get an advertiser interested, but there has to be a shiat ton of liberals pissed to make anyone care.

Probably because of the protest happy folks sticking around from the sixties. Eventually the religious right will cry wolf and complain about too much innocuous shiat and be ignored too, but that time has, unfortunately, not yet come.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Yea, will this is fair game. Bush stole two elections rigging diebold machines, so fair is fair.

You really need an alt to do that, man.

RemyDuron: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Yea, will this is fair game. Bush stole two elections rigging diebold machines, so fair is fair.

You really need an alt to do that, man.

Yeah, he is a bit too well known to pull that one off.

RemyDuron: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Yea, will this is fair game. Bush stole two elections rigging diebold machines, so fair is fair.

You really need an alt to do that, man.

Sarcasm meters should be able to figure it out by now....

Obama/Biden in 2012...!

brynaldo: Christian Bale: I understand why he took it this far, and I understand why he stopped it today. He did it for the people of Minnesota.


Yeah, Coleman kept this charade up for 8 farking months for the people of Minnesota. Give me a break.

ITS called being professional! I thought you might know a thing or two about it


Professional. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Sabyen91: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Yea, will this is fair game. Bush stole two elections rigging diebold machines, so fair is fair.

Oh, nice bait, 3 Butt Cheeks.

Don't feed the troll.

3_Butt_Cheeks: RemyDuron: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Yea, will this is fair game. Bush stole two elections rigging diebold machines, so fair is fair.

You really need an alt to do that, man.

Sarcasm meters should be able to figure it out by now....

Well, Franken won the state mandated recount. Bush won because the SCOTUS stopped a state mandated recount. There is a difference.

What upsets me most about all this is:
Coleman has deprived me of 6 months of Franken verbally biatch-slapping idiotic senators on C-Span.

I really was hoping for some entertainment, and the guy has been kept out of office for an eighth of his damn term.

ghare: Sabyen91: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Yea, will this is fair game. Bush stole two elections rigging diebold machines, so fair is fair.

Oh, nice bait, 3 Butt Cheeks.

Don't feed the troll.

I know, I know...

Elzar: heart of hearts

It is from Hamlet, means "my heart's core" (also used in the same place) and the second heart ain't plural. But some people don't read that much, and have it wrong.

Poppa brap, who is the grumpiest man alive had a good Al Franken-related quote (at least I thought so) last weekend.

"I paid into the whole Al Franken campaign thingamabob because I hate that Minnesota has even thought about being anything right of socialist. But those biatches keep calling me up for more!

And I'm like mother-farker, YOU'VE got the fricking purse-strings now. YOU're supposed to be throwing a brother some love, not begging him for another tip! You want me to hold your dick while you pee you're barking up the wrong tree."

I have some great emails that I received from Glenn Beck's best friend Pat Gray. He announced this week that he was leaving his Houston radio show and moving to Fox News. I hope that he makes a name for himself so I can post them on the internet. The dude is a full on whacko.

brap: Poppa brap, who is the grumpiest man alive had a good Al Franken-related quote (at least I thought so) last weekend.

"I paid into the whole Al Franken campaign thingamabob because I hate that Minnesota has even thought about being anything right of socialist. But those biatches keep calling me up for more!

And I'm like mother-farker, YOU'VE got the fricking purse-strings now. YOU're supposed to be throwing a brother some love, not begging him for another tip! You want me to hold your dick while you pee you're barking up the wrong tree."

Wow, you used mother-farker correctly.

skipsargent: WTF is a lady boner???

Came for the lady boner; leaving satis-

-wait what's a lady boner?

When a woman becomes aroused, the labia minora and clitoris become engorged and swollen, creating what is known, at least in my panties, as a "lady boner."

/And yes. The pathetic death-spasms of these "reporters" is giving me a lady boner
//Seriously... It's like a slip-n-slide down there.

Gordon Bennett: Elzar: I noticed Hannity kept saying "In my heart of hearts" - wtf does that even mean?

It means he isn't thinking with his brain of brains.

Oh BRAVO.

dammit I meant Obama/Franken 2012...

Your Faith is Creepy: holiday_inn_in_cambodia: GIS for "Lady Boner"

Oh great. Now that image will be in my mind whenever I hear, speak, or even think the words "Lady Boner". Thanks. A LOT.

Let me fix that for ya:



That should wash that other image away.

MiddleyMcCentrist: skipsargent: WTF is a lady boner???

Came for the lady boner; leaving satis-

-wait what's a lady boner?

You have never seen one? Lucky bastard.

I thought a lady-boner would be like the opposite of a desert in ones underpants. You know, more of a wetlands.

Regardless of your ideological position, it is difficult to criticize his intellectual "gravitas," grasp of policy, and his ability to communicate. Minnesotans will be well served, and frankly, it is their right to vote the man to office.

What I find horrifying is the meanness of the modern Republican movement.

Egalitarian: I thought a lady-boner would be like the opposite of a desert in ones underpants. You know, more of a wetlands.

I was thinking an abnormal clitoris. It is horrifying.

3_Butt_Cheeks: RemyDuron: 3_Butt_Cheeks: Yea, will this is fair game. Bush stole two elections rigging diebold machines, so fair is fair.

You really need an alt to do that, man.

Sarcasm meters should be able to figure it out by now....

Ah, I thought you were trying to pull some left wing trolling. Honestly, we need some. I feel bad for conservatives having almost all the crazy trolls on their side. All we liberals have is RAR. There are a few others, but they come and go.

Somewhat apropos, but I barely need any reason to post the image..

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Also, apropos of nothing, here's Al Franken verbally slapping Ann Coulter.

I'd like to interrupt this thread to say BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I knew there was more than three reasons I have you on my favorites list.

Your Faith is Creepy: The history between Franken and Fox goes well beyond Franken calling out a few individuals by name. Here's a delightful little trip down memory lane:

Fox News Drops Franken Lawsuit

[Judge Denny Chin] said Fox's case was "wholly without merit," and the trademark "Fair and Balanced," registered by Fox in 1998, was weak. He also said the network was "trying to undermine the First Amendment."

I didn't know that Judge Chin was presiding over that case. He just biatchslapped Madoff as well.

rahpower: Your Faith is Creepy: The history between Franken and Fox goes well beyond Franken calling out a few individuals by name. Here's a delightful little trip down memory lane:

Fox News Drops Franken Lawsuit

[Judge Denny Chin] said Fox's case was "wholly without merit," and the trademark "Fair and Balanced," registered by Fox in 1998, was weak. He also said the network was "trying to undermine the First Amendment."

I didn't know that Judge Chin was presiding over that case. He just biatchslapped Madoff as well.

Hmm, next SCOTUS?

Bloody William: Norm Coleman magnanimously decided to step aside and not push for his rightful place for the good of the state (and the bullshiat of the last 8 months either didn't happen or were just and not petty).

I liked hearing his foot-stomping tantrum described as a "valiant effort" myself.

/"we revise - you re-remember"

Sabyen91: Wow, you used mother-farker correctly.

I was quoting my father. So, if on the off chance you figured you were working the door at Club Burnage...

um yeah.

brap: Sabyen91: Wow, you used mother-farker correctly.

I was quoting my father. So, if on the off chance you figured you were working the door at Club Burnage...

um yeah.

Oh, I thought you were calling your father a motherfarker. That would generally be correct.

dynomutt: lbi669: A lady boner is all the exciting feeling of a regular boner, but no boner.

/ill equipped

Tumescence?

Man in the canoe, standing?

/ nothing, i has it

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Also, apropos of nothing, here's Al Franken verbally slapping Ann Coulter.

Franken took a chance in doing that as it is never a good idea to debate an unabashed professional liar like Coulter. You'll never win and a person who lies about everything will always have 'facts' to support their argument. You'll be limited in refuting everything a liar says since you'll care about the truth and not have instant access to facts and quotes.

Befuddled: Eddie Adams from Torrance: Also, apropos of nothing, here's Al Franken verbally slapping Ann Coulter.

Franken took a chance in doing that as it is never a good idea to debate an unabashed professional liar like Coulter. You'll never win and a person who lies about everything will always have 'facts' to support their argument. You'll be limited in refuting everything a liar says since you'll care about the truth and not have instant access to facts and quotes.

He also got O'Reilly to admit he "might be wrong" once. Franken's good at this. He also has a team of ivy league students who factcheck for him, although often it is as simple as searching LexisNexis.

But yeah, it's very hard to debate someone who has no problem just completely lying if you aren't willing to do the same. Because you don't have time to fact check them.

Befuddled: Franken took a chance in doing that as it is never a good idea to debate an unabashed professional liar like Coulter. You'll never win and a person who lies about everything will always have 'facts' to support their argument. You'll be limited in refuting everything a liar says since you'll care about the truth and not have instant access to facts and quotes.

I didn't think much of it at the time, but I'm come to appreciate the genius of George Carlin's Tonight Show visit with Ann. Going in, everyone expected fireworks, but aside from a safe joke at the beginning about "being to the right (physically) of Ann Coltour", he kept his mouth shut the whole time. You could see that she wasn't prepared for it because every time she said something inflammatory, she would look over at Carlin as if waiting for an attack and/or validation. By not refusing to be drawn into an argument, he left her hanging as she stumbled through her routine.

Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

I think I'll write Senator Franken's office and ask that he look into this.

This.

billygun7: Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

I think I'll write Senator Franken's office and ask that he look into this.

This.

Hmm, I am guessing you will be wasting your words.

Although it should be noted that Franken is no slouch at lying himself. He excellently dances around the truth in one bit of Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them. He takes Ann Coulter to task for making inaccurate statements which did not include relevant facts and instead putting them in end notes which almost no one reads. At an earlier point in the book he takes her to task for saying some journalist's father was a high up member of the American Communist party. So he calls the guy up, "Hey, Ann Coulter said your father was one of the heads of the American Communist party, is that true?" "Nope." "Okay, thanks."

The thing is, at the end of this paragraph is a little mark indicating an end note. And it is the only end note in the whole book (well, there are two, the other is from the bit on endnotes. It says "See how hard that was to find?"). It clarifies that while this guys father was not a head of the American Communist party, his grandfather was. So the book comes out, and Ann Coulter accuses him of lying because he left out the fact this guys grandfather was head of the head of the American Communist party, and she had not lied just made a simple mistake. Thus elegantly proving his point that no one reads the end notes.

unyon: Your Faith is Creepy: holiday_inn_in_cambodia: GIS for "Lady Boner"

Oh great. Now that image will be in my mind whenever I hear, speak, or even think the words "Lady Boner". Thanks. A LOT.

Let me fix that for ya:

[eeeeeaaaaaaagggghhhhh]

That should wash that other image away.

And now I have to explain to my SO why I'm cracking up at the computer. You're a cruel person, I hope you know that.

But you're right. It worked. Damn you.

Ahh, Media Matters, where you can take a few minutes of clips and portray them as something they are not all in aid of filling liberal heads full of mush with what they want to hear.

randomjsa: Ahh, Media Matters, where you can take a few minutes of clips and portray them as something they are not all in aid of filling liberal heads full of mush with what they want to hear.

Aww, poor thing. You HATE when they quote righties word for word.

randomjsa: Ahh, Media Matters, where you can take a few minutes of clips and portray them as something they are not all in aid of filling liberal heads full of mush with what they want to hear.

So what did they get wrong, exactly? Hm?

RemyDuron: [Ann Coulter] had not lied just made a simple mistake.

Coulter sure does make a lot of 'mistakes'. Funny how all her mistakes are so pro-rightwing-batshiat-crazy.

Befuddled: RemyDuron: [Ann Coulter] had not lied just made a simple mistake.

Coulter sure does make a lot of 'mistakes'. Funny how all her mistakes are so pro-rightwing-batshiat-crazy.

I think this one was a genuine mistake. I wonder if Franken intended to manipulate her into proving his point about endnotes, or he was just trying to make a clever point about using endnotes to lie and Coulter blundered into it. Either way, it's a thing of beauty.

RemyDuron:

But yeah, it's very hard to debate someone who has no problem just completely lying if you aren't willing to do the same. Because you don't have time to fact check them.



None of the right-wing bloviators are very creative or hard-working. In fact, they're down-right lazy and unimaginative: telling the same generic lies over-and-over.

So... the trick is to study them beforehand, and get an idea of what their favorite lies are... then simply memorize the facts surrounding their favorite lies.

brynaldo: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Here is Wilford's stump speech: "John McCain--the best there is, the best there was, the best there ever will be."

Would like a word with Captain Diabeetus:

Brett Hull is so cool.

in a gay knda way...not that there's anything wrong with that

Sabyen91: Your_Huckleberry: They're probably still smarting over all the shots Franken has leveled at them over the years, especially Hannity. He might be nuts (Okay, he is nuts), but Al Franken savaged him in his books, you really think Hannity is going to let that go? Come on.

And really, if someone like Bill O'Reilly ran for and won office(I know,scary), you think Olbermann would cover it straight?

He was elected by the people of Minnesota. The Foxxies are denying it. They are full of shiat. Your equating these nuts to Olbermann is silly.

No, I don't think it is silly, sorry.

And I'm not talking denying elections, I was equating the reaction the Fox commentators are giving to a reaction to Al Franken winning and surmising a reaction I believe MSNBC types would give if the sides were reversed. Franken landed some heavy blows on guys like Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh, it's not at all a stretch to say they hate him for it, so they are sure as hell going to be bitter about it. Unprofessional,yes, but they are not going to give him a fair shake because of how they feel about him. Well, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say Olbermann has a very,very strong dislike(at least) for O'Reilly, if O'Reilly ran for and won some sort of office, you really think Olbermann would give him a fair coverage? No. I sure don't.

kevinfra: "BECK: This is like having me in the Senate. You don't want me as a senator. This is -- what is that? I mean --"

Finally. Something I can agree with him about.

I was discussing this with a conservative friend at work. First he said, he wouldn't vote for Al Franken, but he was elected.

Then I mentioned the Glen Beck quote. My friend said, "Let me corrent that, I wouldn't vote for Al Franken, unless he was running against Glen Beck."

Ha! I think your friend is on to something there.

RemyDuron: Your_Huckleberry: They're probably still smarting over all the shots Franken has leveled at them over the years, especially Hannity. He might be nuts (Okay, he is nuts), but Al Franken savaged him in his books, you really think Hannity is going to let that go? Come on.

And really, if someone like Bill O'Reilly ran for and won office(I know,scary), you think Olbermann would cover it straight?

No, but I also don't think O'Reilly would do that. It would mean he risked losing. The man can't even stand being interviewed on NPR without pitching a hissy fit, he can't stand the cold harsh light of an election. He's comfortable where he is, on his show, able to cut off anyone who comes close to beating him in an argument.

IIRC the only person to ever get him to admit he might be wrong was. . . Al Franken.


I think you're right about that, probably another reason for O'Reilly to hate Franken. I've noticed that some of these bigger talking heads don't venture out more from thier comfort zones. I heard somebody once say they'd love to see Rush Limbaugh go on Bill Maher's show (back when he was on ABC) and take Maher apart. Limbaugh wouldn't dare! First of all, back then, the second after Limbaugh was booked, Maher would lock in Al Franken, Paul Begala and James Carville for the same show and they'd tear him up like hyennas. Same reason O'Reilly or Hannity wouldn't go on Maher's panel. (O'Reilly has done one on one interviews with Maher, I got the impression Maher didn't hate him) I also find it interesting Olbermann won't do shows like that, he may not have the stomack for such debate. Probably boils down to these types being control freaks.

Referring to the first part of the video, I farking hate it when Republicans try to play the "he's still my president" card in reference to Obama. Oh really? You make up insane conspiracy theories about him not being a citizen, you freak out when he orders spicy mustard on a burger, you blame the recession on him before he even takes office -but you still give him the respect and good-will appropriate to the office. Right.

Listen, you're not fooling anyone. Just admit that you're shiatting your pants over the fact that there's a librul in the White House, and you're throwing all the crap you can muster at the wall just to see what will stick. Doing so might just regain you a smidgen of the respect you once had.

The Name: Referring to the first part of the video, I farking hate it when Republicans try to play the "he's still my president" card in reference to Obama. Oh really? You make up insane conspiracy theories about him not being a citizen, you freak out when he orders spicy mustard on a burger, you blame the recession on him before he even takes office -but you still give him the respect and good-will appropriate to the office. Right.

Listen, you're not fooling anyone. Just admit that you're shiatting your pants over the fact that there's a librul in the White House, and you're throwing all the crap you can muster at the wall just to see what will stick. Doing so might just regain you a smidgen of the respect you once had.

So would you prefer the "Not My President" motto of the Bush years? More honest, I suppose.

GAT_00: Fox News doesn't know what to do when reality infringes on them.

They won their lawsuit stating they don't have to pay any attention to reality or actual facts...which doesn't mean that reality or facts are going to give them the same (er...hmmm...courtesy isn't the word I want here) treatment.

Sorta like the law of gravity.
Go ahead and ignore it. You're still gonna hit the pavement like a sack of bricks.

/ schadenfreude and FAUX tears...
// anybody want popcorn with theirs?

Your_Huckleberry: And I'm not talking denying elections, I was equating the reaction the Fox commentators are giving to a reaction to Al Franken winning and surmising a reaction I believe MSNBC types would give if the sides were reversed. Franken landed some heavy blows on guys like Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh, it's not at all a stretch to say they hate him for it, so they are sure as hell going to be bitter about it. Unprofessional,yes, but they are not going to give him a fair shake because of how they feel about him. Well, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say Olbermann has a very,very strong dislike(at least) for O'Reilly, if O'Reilly ran for and won some sort of office, you really think Olbermann would give him a fair coverage? No. I sure don't.

I'm sure Keith Olberman would have strong opinions on the subject, but I don't think he'd make false claims about him.

Alphax: Your_Huckleberry: And I'm not talking denying elections, I was equating the reaction the Fox commentators are giving to a reaction to Al Franken winning and surmising a reaction I believe MSNBC types would give if the sides were reversed. Franken landed some heavy blows on guys like Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh, it's not at all a stretch to say they hate him for it, so they are sure as hell going to be bitter about it. Unprofessional,yes, but they are not going to give him a fair shake because of how they feel about him. Well, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say Olbermann has a very,very strong dislike(at least) for O'Reilly, if O'Reilly ran for and won some sort of office, you really think Olbermann would give him a fair coverage? No. I sure don't.

I'm sure Keith Olberman would have strong opinions on the subject, but I don't think he'd make false claims about him.

Outright false claims? Maybe not. But "strong opinions" would be a big understatement.

Your_Huckleberry: Outright false claims? Maybe not. But "strong opinions" would be a big understatement.

Particularly after he vowed to stop using a silly voice to make fun of BOR, after the Tillman Murder. Light hearted mockery is too good for BOR.

Alphax: Your_Huckleberry: Outright false claims? Maybe not. But "strong opinions" would be a big understatement.

Particularly after he vowed to stop using a silly voice to make fun of BOR, after the Tillman Murder. Light hearted mockery is too good for BOR.

Yeah, I saw that.

You know (and I'm sure you won't agree with this first part), for the most part, I think claims that the Right Wing talkers are causing nutcases to go violent are overblown, but the Tillman case just.... gives me an uneasy feeling.

Your_Huckleberry: Alphax: Your_Huckleberry: Outright false claims? Maybe not. But "strong opinions" would be a big understatement.

Particularly after he vowed to stop using a silly voice to make fun of BOR, after the Tillman Murder. Light hearted mockery is too good for BOR.

Yeah, I saw that.

You know (and I'm sure you won't agree with this first part), for the most part, I think claims that the Right Wing talkers are causing nutcases to go violent are overblown, but the Tillman case just.... gives me an uneasy feeling.

Tillman wasn't even the first case. Remember the guy who shot up the church?

RevMercutio: Your_Huckleberry: Alphax: Your_Huckleberry: Outright false claims? Maybe not. But "strong opinions" would be a big understatement.

Particularly after he vowed to stop using a silly voice to make fun of BOR, after the Tillman Murder. Light hearted mockery is too good for BOR.

Yeah, I saw that.

You know (and I'm sure you won't agree with this first part), for the most part, I think claims that the Right Wing talkers are causing nutcases to go violent are overblown, but the Tillman case just.... gives me an uneasy feeling.

Tillman wasn't even the first case. Remember the guy who shot up the church?

Didn't somebody post a link to that earlier, or was that a different thread? Blend together sometimes. I'll go back and look, before I eventually try to get some sleep.

Bloody William: Oh, and did anyone notice that Michael farking Steele just came out and said that he doesn't think Franken was legitimately elected? Are you shiatting me?

But he has a point. Where is Franken's birth certificate?

Never trust a Democratic Senator.

Your Faith is Creepy: How come the FCC gets to levy huge fines over the broadcast of so-called "dirty" words, or the accidental exposure of a female breast, but says and does nothing about the deliberate daily dissemination of blatant falsehoods, misinformation and propaganda that is Faux News?

I think I'll write Senator Franken's office and ask that he look into this.

If the FCC did regulate what is true and false in the news, presumably the head of the FCC would be replaced each new president so they can control the media better. Better to leave it as not interfering in political stuff and assume the morons will eventually learn without the government needing to step in.

brigid_fitch: Your_Huckleberry: brigid_fitch: Why is it okay that Sonny Bono, Fred Grandy, Fred Thompson, Ronald Reagan, & Arnold Schwarzanegger enter politics, but not Franken?

Oh, wait--he's the only Democrat in that group.

Uh, no offense, but I think you're off there. This isn't about a Democrat entertaineer winning office, this is about Al Franken winning office. It's personal, especially to the likes of Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh. He blasted them in his books, they are not going to get over that.

Yes, his targets have every reason to start in on him, but it doesn't explain the average Republican. My family is going NUTS about this. A few of my die-hard Republican friends are groaning. When I got my taxes done, my accountant ranted about the guy when he saw that I'd contributed to Franken's campaign. And I've asked every single one of them what they know about Al Franken outside of his SNL days. They can't come up with a specific answer, only that he's a comedian who failed at liberal talk-radio.

I've read his books--he's an exceptionally smart man. He also employs scores of interns just to do fact-checking for him. I can't wait to see what he does in the Senate.

I hear the same thing from my blue-collar, right-wing inlaws. "He's just a comedian!"
"Reagan was just an actor!"
"Don't you dare attack Ronald Reagan!"

Franken, as you say, is a very smart guy. And he's really got a razor-blade tongue on him. It seems to be a rule that, no matter what a liberal Democrat might think and say in private about the idiocy on the other side, he becomes subdued and wishy-washy once he gets into office. (Most of them, most of the time.) "Collegiality," I suppose.

It would be very refreshing if Franken were to take the opportunity of his position to fillet the talking heads on the right, to point out, loudly, that the emperor has no clothes. He's got six years before he has to worry about re-election. He could be a first-rate attack dog who could get people not only thinking about the crap-spewing right, but laughing at them. And sufficient laughter could be deadly.

lbi669: A lady boner is all the exciting feeling of a regular boner, but no boner.

/ill equipped

I'm sure there's a little man in the boat somewhere :)

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hubiestubert:

Oh Hells no. Ben Stein is a funny guy, but I think he did enough damage with his defense of Nixon, thank you very much. That, and this little blurb:


So what? He'll be the veep, the political equivalent to appearing on Hollywood Squares. Avoid whacking the prez and who cares how retarded he is. I mean look at Biden. Would you really want that goofy gaffe machine running the nation? And even if Stein does gain the top seat we'll still be rewarded after death for serving the Eristic principle so let Franken-Stein in '12! be heard throughout the land!

I must say that the solid republican ass kicking that took place has been even better than i thought it would be.

You LOSERS gave us liberals exactly what we wanted.

Thanks

syzygy whizz: GAT_00: Fox News doesn't know what to do when reality infringes on them.

(snip)

Sorta like the law of gravity.
Go ahead and ignore it. You're still gonna hit the pavement like a sack of bricks.

Well, gravity is just a theory and Fox may choose to believe in an alternative explanation, one with a different perspective and point of view.

Your_Huckleberry: Alphax: Your_Huckleberry: And I'm not talking denying elections, I was equating the reaction the Fox commentators are giving to a reaction to Al Franken winning and surmising a reaction I believe MSNBC types would give if the sides were reversed. Franken landed some heavy blows on guys like Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh, it's not at all a stretch to say they hate him for it, so they are sure as hell going to be bitter about it. Unprofessional,yes, but they are not going to give him a fair shake because of how they feel about him. Well, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say Olbermann has a very,very strong dislike(at least) for O'Reilly, if O'Reilly ran for and won some sort of office, you really think Olbermann would give him a fair coverage? No. I sure don't.

I'm sure Keith Olberman would have strong opinions on the subject, but I don't think he'd make false claims about him.

Outright false claims? Maybe not. But "strong opinions" would be a big understatement.


Actually, Olbermann won't say anything about it. After the George Tiller incident, Olbermann has stopped responding to anything O'Reilly has said or done. He won't even put him on his Worlds Worst. Just because O'Reilly won't admit that he might have had something to do with it. I'm sure he didn't create the idea, but i'm sure he encouraged it.

Lets enjoy some of that delicious republican reality denial that got them fired from all branches of government.

From Suskinds book -

He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.
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"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ya see repubs didn't get their asses kicked in 2006 and 2008.

They just forgot to create a reality where they won.

bulsd: Your_Huckleberry: Alphax: Your_Huckleberry: And I'm not talking denying elections, I was equating the reaction the Fox commentators are giving to a reaction to Al Franken winning and surmising a reaction I believe MSNBC types would give if the sides were reversed. Franken landed some heavy blows on guys like Hannity, O'Reilly and Limbaugh, it's not at all a stretch to say they hate him for it, so they are sure as hell going to be bitter about it. Unprofessional,yes, but they are not going to give him a fair shake because of how they feel about him. Well, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say Olbermann has a very,very strong dislike(at least) for O'Reilly, if O'Reilly ran for and won some sort of office, you really think Olbermann would give him a fair coverage? No. I sure don't.

I'm sure Keith Olberman would have strong opinions on the subject, but I don't think he'd make false claims about him.

Outright false claims? Maybe not. But "strong opinions" would be a big understatement.


Actually, Olbermann won't say anything about it. After the George Tiller incident, Olbermann has stopped responding to anything O'Reilly has said or done. He won't even put him on his Worlds Worst. Just because O'Reilly won't admit that he might have had something to do with it. I'm sure he didn't create the idea, but i'm sure he encouraged it.

Yeah, so Alphax tells me. So he doesn't mention O'Reilly at all anymore? Really stuck to that?

Then, perhaps, the better comparison would be Hannity winning office, he seems to be even more disliked than O'Reilly.