So she likes the pace of life and the history of another country? SFW?

Ever been to Spain, subbs? She's right.
Also:
which is why the U.S. is the world's only remaining superpower! USA! USA! USA!

The author is a hopeless retard.

That caused butthurt? Man, you Yanks have tiny, soft balls!

Yeah, give us hell, Gwen!

FTA: "It is so different from the United States. It seemed to have a history, and the buildings are years and years and years old. Here in the United States an old building is about 17 (years old), and over there it's from 500 B.C., it's incredible," she tells the Associated Press.

ok.
a) I don't think she understands history at all. American, Spanish, or world for that matter.
b) Hollywood, the place/industry which she is a part of, is a large cause for America's attitude that "new is always better"

Oh, for crying out loud, what she said about buildings in the US versus Europe is demonstrably true, and one of the things I actually enjoy about traveling there. The second part was mainly about New York City, and I happen to agree with her on that, too.

Nabb1: Oh, for crying out loud, what she said about buildings in the US versus Europe is demonstrably true, and one of the things I actually enjoy about traveling there. The second part was mainly about New York City, and I happen to agree with her on that, too.

you traitor!

Well, I've never been to Spain, but I kinda like the music.

U.S. to Paltrow: Yes, we know.

That f*cking harpy b*tch. She can say what she wants about New York City, but I will be damned if she will condemn my Blackberry.

kronicfeld: I will be damned if she will condemn my Blackberry.

Are you being sarcastic? RIM is Canadian.

She thinks buildings in the US are only 17? I guess she doesn't get out of LA much.

Who?

Sid_6.7: kronicfeld: I will be damned if she will condemn my Blackberry.

Are you being sarcastic? RIM is Canadian.

Spread your lies somewhere else. RIM is as American as Phil Hartman.

Yea, America doesn't have any history to appreciate at all. Nope. None of that shiat here!

Sid_6.7: Are you being sarcastic? RIM is Canadian.

It's true. When I was in Waterloo everyone was looking for a RIM job.

Oekss: Yea, America doesn't have any history to appreciate at all. Nope. None of that shiat here!

Here's my favourite bit of US history.

The Hollyweird liberal left wing leftist liberals are at it again.

My outrage cannot be contained by the internet.

Mr. Fantastic just read that article and even he thinks that's a pretty incredible reach.

BobtheFascist: She thinks buildings in the US are only 17? I guess she doesn't get out of LA much.

Or, ya know, it's hyperbole.

she's a decent actress in the right role and very pretty. but she's got that hollywood-child-of-privilege sheltered view. she lives in a soft, expensive bubble. just shut up and entertain us, blondie

oldfarthenry: Here's my favourite bit of US history.



This is mine.

oldfarthenry: Oekss: Yea, America doesn't have any history to appreciate at all. Nope. None of that shiat here!

Here's my favourite bit of US history.

Canada: Where our only claim to fame is actors who go to the US to make it big and the fact that we cheat at scrabble.

I Said: Canada: Where our only claim to fame is actors who go to the US to make it big and the fact that we cheat at scrabble.

It's only one extra point. You guys are such babies.

Playerslight: I Said: Canada: Where our only claim to fame is actors who go to the US to make it big and the fact that we cheat at scrabble.

It's only one extra point. You guys are such babies.

THISISN'TNAMTHEREARERULES!

/MARK IT ZERO!

She really looks like she cares what you think.

Nabb1: Oh, for crying out loud, what she said about buildings in the US versus Europe is demonstrably true, and one of the things I actually enjoy about traveling there. The second part was mainly about New York City, and I happen to agree with her on that, too.

maybe she should visit places in the states other then new york and L.A.

maybe go visit places with buildings that date back from the colonial days

I suggest sge go wander the streets of New Orleans, alone and after dark

I Said: /MARK IT ZERO!

Bullshait. Mark it 8. Dude.

loonatic112358: maybe go visit places with buildings that date back from the colonial days

Rome still has Jamestown beat by a couple millennia.

loonatic112358: I suggest sge go wander the streets of New Orleans, alone and after dark

Oh, pish posh, I do it all the time.

And by "all the time" I mean "rarely."

I also have a concealed carry permit.

Nabb1: I also have a concealed carry permit.

Unless you're concealing a few green berets, it's probably not enough.

Spain is awesome. You have to go there to believe it. Incredible food. Incredible architecture. Moroccan hashish the size of a loaf of rye bread. The restaurants put a bottle of grappa on the table after a meal, gratis. Real grappa. The Serrano ham is to die for. The beaches are loaded with drop dead gorgeous women walking around topless or completely naked.

I recommend starting just north of Barcelona and then work your way south.

Off with her head!

Headline: Paltrow says US sucks!
Article: Paltrow: "I like living in Spain, its much more relaxed."

that's some fine strawman building there Lou.

Marcus Aurelius: Spain is awesome. You have to go there to believe it. Incredible food. Incredible architecture. Moroccan hashish the size of a loaf of rye bread. The restaurants put a bottle of grappa on the table after a meal, gratis. Real grappa. The Serrano ham is to die for. The beaches are loaded with drop dead gorgeous women walking around topless or completely naked.

I recommend starting just north of Barcelona and then work your way south.

This. Andalucia in particular has everything I want in a place to live.

Still, she needs to STFU. I doubt Spain needs her p.r.

FireBreathingLiberal: She really looks like she cares what you think.

She doesn't look that good anymore. Saw her last night on the Late Show. And yes I would, I would hit it so hard the neighbors would need a cig.

/still hot enough to light a cigar off of.

Marcus Aurelius: Spain is awesome. You have to go there to believe it. Incredible food. Incredible architecture. Moroccan hashish the size of a loaf of rye bread. The restaurants put a bottle of grappa on the table after a meal, gratis. Real grappa. The Serrano ham is to die for. The beaches are loaded with drop dead gorgeous women walking around topless or completely naked.

I recommend starting just north of Barcelona and then work your way south.

You sir, just sold me on Spain.

I traveled around Europe. Here's my take:
Pro's:
- Better educated, healthier, attractive populace
- More thoughtful civic design
- More developed sense of community
- More thoughtful resource management
- Significantly better (fantastic) public transit systems
- Less emphasis on commercialism
- Less polarized politics

Con's:
- Won't allow me to emigrate legally unless I marry a local

There you have it.

/Me? Bitter about living in a WalMart cargo shorts whaargarbl paradise? No.

she lives in an environment composed entirely of her own farts

I see we're all in agreement here, subby is an idiot.

What subby says Gwenyth said: You suck, USA!

What Gwenyth said: Spain is so cool!

/Fark just loves to take Gwenyth way too seriously.
//Then again, Gwenyth loves to take Gwenyth too seriously.
///I've now typed Gwenyth so many times, it's lost all meaning...

Boy, that was terribly offensive. Frankly, I'm hurt.

I didn't want to freaking leave Palma de Mallorca. People brought you beer on the beach and time just seemed to go so slow. I can understand why she likes it - same with Italy - everywhere you look is like looking in a history book.

Article is freaking stupid. ZOMG FOREIGN COUNTRIES SUCK! USA!!

Who the fark is Gwenyth Paltrow?

Compared to Spain - the US does suck.

FTA: "It is so different from the United States. It seemed to have a history, and the buildings are years and years and years old. Here in the United States an old building is about 17 (years old), and over there it's from 500 B.C., it's incredible," she tells the Associated Press.

That's bullcrap, Gwenyth. Just recently in Miami they redecorated a building to how it looked over FIFTY YEARS AGO!

/No, surely not, no!
//No one was alive then!

kronicfeld: Nabb1: I also have a concealed carry permit.

Unless you're concealing a few green berets, it's probably not enough.

I thought it was all fixed there....


FireBreathingLiberal: She really looks like she cares what you think.

Well, should we care what she thinks?

For me, it's more of a "Whatever" thing. If I had her money, I might live somewhere besides the US, too. At least move out of California.

Here in the United States an old building is about 17 (years old), and over there it's from 500 B.C., it's incredible," she tells the Associated Press.


Um, my house was built in 1850. The building I am in right now was built the same year. I lived in another in East Greenwich that was from the late 1700's. No one is living in or has free access to any building over there that was built in 500 BC.

Finally, she looks terrible in those pictures. Like a old lady.

So the knock against us is we're only 200 years old? Stupid us, why couldn't we have been established a thousand years earlier?!

Oh, Gwenyth Paltrow said something? Who gives a fark?

FMLYHM: Oh, Gwenyth Paltrow said something? Who gives a fark?

WHO THE HELL IS GWENYTH PALTROW?!?!

MrSteve007: Compared to Spain - the US does suck.

Oh, you just like that giant solar tower thing they have... Sahara just did not do that thing justice.

CitizenTed

Me? Bitter about living in a WalMart cargo shorts whaargarbl paradise? No.

Dude, it's hard to beat a good pair of cheap cargo shorts.

I'd still donkey punch her... But the punch would be more to shut her the hell up.

I would like to see spanish buildings from 500 B.C.

Wow, she said she likes another country, must be one slow farkin news day.

Hey submitter, does your dog have the exact same outlook on life as you?

Oh, he doesn't?

THEN YOUR DOG JUST CRAPPED ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TOLD YOU THAT YOU SUCKED!!

Spanish chicks are hot.

CitizenTed: I traveled around Europe. Here's my take:
Pro's:
- Better educated, healthier, attractive populace
- More thoughtful civic design
- More developed sense of community
- More thoughtful resource management
- Significantly better (fantastic) public transit systems
- Less emphasis on commercialism
- Less polarized politics

Con's:
- Won't allow me to emigrate legally unless I marry a local

There you have it.

/Me? Bitter about living in a WalMart cargo shorts whaargarbl paradise? No.

Ok, I've got to take up a couple of points. After living in the Baltics and traveling every chance I got here is my take on your take.

CitizenTed: - Better educated, healthier, attractive populace

They are big on walking over there. That helps alot. Few own cars and cabs are costly.

CitizenTed: - More thoughtful civic design

BULL! Were you ever sober over there?!? Most major towns were built hundreds of years ago and their main focus was foot traffic and sometimes a cart. Many were built to make invading forces kill themselves rather then find the center of the city!

CitizenTed: - More developed sense of community

Does that mean they treat each other well and shiat on everyone else? For the most part service in Germany, Austria, Lithuania and Latvia sucks. You're lucky to get a refill on anything and if the waiter comes by your table more then 3 times the entire time you're lucky.

CitizenTed: - More thoughtful resource management

Sure

CitizenTed: - Significantly better (fantastic) public transit systems

OH HELL YEAH. In countries or between countries the rail system in Germany is the absolute best.

CitizenTed: - Less emphasis on commercialism

I dont know about that. The ladies like the Italian designers no matter where you go. I may have to say its a tie in that dept

CitizenTed: - Less polarized politics

Depends on where and when you are there. Around election times in certain countries he can get really heated. But during the bulk of the year it really does not matter to them. So I could see you believe that if you passed through quickly and at the right time.

WhileAmericaBurns: So the knock against us is we're only 200 years old? Stupid us, why couldn't we have been established a thousand years earlier?!

Well, there were several civilizations here 1000 years ago, but they were Jesus-less, and needed help.

I like a lot of places.

Wow...If the buildings weren't a lot older in Europe, and the lifestyle in many European countries wasn't much mellower than in the US, I'd be totally wicked offended.

She's right.

There are plenty of places in America where you can live a relaxed lifestyle. I hate it when people describe America as New York. She's probably too good to step outside the city and see what else there is. And when you name your kid after fruit I can't really take anything you say seriously.

I'm seriously giggling over here about how many people are carrying forward the "Gwenyth" typo. It's Gwyneth!

subby went full raterd.

"We will restore this building to how it looked over FIFTY years ago!"

"Impossible; no-one was alive thne!"

"then" even. Ah bollocks.

That may be the most worthless article I've ever clicked on from Fark. I don't have anyone on ignore but if subby outs himself in this thread I may consider it.

There was nothing wrong with what she had to say. I agree 100%. I mean we do have a whole lotta suck in the U.S., mostly from people who would write articles like this one.

If you've ever been at a gathering and chanted USA, USA, USA, yeah you're part of the farking problem.

What's in the box? WHAT'S IN THE BOX!

gopher321: So she likes the pace of life and the history of another country? SFW?

This.

Author, please pack up and go somewhere else.
You're embarrassing the US.

Your_Huckleberry: MrSteve007: Compared to Spain - the US does suck.

Oh, you just like that giant solar tower thing they have... Sahara just did not do that thing justice.

Yeah, their dedication to solar power is cool, but of the couple times I've been there, one of the foremost I recall was being able to order alcohol in a restaurant at age 15 and no one caring.

That, and the beautiful, nice people, pleasant weather, well laid out cities with all forms of activity all night, wonderful beaches and the afternoon siestas also contribute to my love of Spain.

/mmm, craving some sangria right now

Blowmonkey:
If you've ever been at a gathering and chanted USA, USA, USA, yeah you're part of the farking problem.

I'm sorry a chant lifting our great country bothers you.

People consider that "taking a dump" on the US? REALLY? talk about butthurt...

She made the same observations every single American who isn't a blithering nationalistic retard makes after spending an extended time in Spain, or really most anywhere in Europe.

How is it a shiat on the US to say that our buildings are newer (they are) and we have a less extensive history as a country(we do)? Anyone who I've ever met who spent time in Spain, and especially those who worked in Spain, will tell you they are less obsessive about work and productivity and more willing to just leave work and go have fun if they feel like it, and quite likely no one will care.

I spent a month living in Vernon, France. You know what "open late" means in France? 9 pm. Most places close around 5 or 6 because everyone wants to go home and have a long, nice dinner. Most places that are not chains (and plenty that are) are closed two, three, or more days a week. The culture's attitude toward work is totally different than America's. Sometimes it's annoying (I'm used to 24 hour restaurants and grocery stores), sometimes it's cool (because laid back people are always cooler to be around), but it is definitely different.

well, she's just being honest.

the single greatest theft of Middle Class America by the wealthiest 1 or 2% was just pulled off in the last year and i admire her for being upfront and speaking her mind in the "land of the Free" where so many are fearful of speaking their minds.

i'm old school and i remember how it used to be and how it is now.

kudos to Paltrow.


/dev/null/GOP

Here's a mental exercise: if Gwyneth actually were Spanish, would her comments make her a "blithering nationalistic retard"?

browntimmy: That may be the most worthless article I've ever clicked on from Fark. I don't have anyone on ignore but if subby outs himself in this thread I may consider it.

Subby's not the only one to blame, though. It takes a dumbfark submitter whoring for greenlights to submit an utterly moronic article with an equally moronic headline and a dumbfark admin to actually greenlight that crap.

dettigersnw22 to Gwenyth Paltrow: Tits or GTFO

loonatic112358: Nabb1: Oh, for crying out loud, what she said about buildings in the US versus Europe is demonstrably true, and one of the things I actually enjoy about traveling there. The second part was mainly about New York City, and I happen to agree with her on that, too.

maybe she should visit places in the states other then new york and L.A.

maybe go visit places with buildings that date back from the colonial days

I suggest sge go wander the streets of New Orleans, alone and after dark

Yeah, our 200 years of history (not counting the Native Americans, because all most no one learns about or appreciates their history anyway) are totally equal to the thousands of years of history in most European countries.

Our country and culture is relatively new, no need to have a complex about it.

WhileAmericaBurns: Here's a mental exercise: if Gwyneth actually were Spanish, would her comments make her a "blithering nationalistic retard"?

You mean, if the situation was different, would it be different?

And to actually answer your question, which I am reluctant to do because your name is "WhileAmericaBurns", no, not really, because it's farking true. It's not insulting to say the Spanish have a longer history and a more laid back attitude, on average, than us. Would it be a shiat on Spain if a Spaniard came here and said she admired our work ethic and our clean, modern looking buildings and our countries sense of youth and vigor?

I don't think so. All Paltrow is saying is A. Things are different in Spain and B. she likes it there. Those are not shiatting on America. Or is no one allowed to prefer living in another country, or enjoy it more than America?

RemyDuron: WhileAmericaBurns: Here's a mental exercise: if Gwyneth actually were Spanish, would her comments make her a "blithering nationalistic retard"?

You mean, if the situation was different, would it be different?

And to actually answer your question, which I am reluctant to do because your name is "WhileAmericaBurns", no, not really, because it's farking true. It's not insulting to say the Spanish have a longer history and a more laid back attitude, on average, than us. Would it be a shiat on Spain if a Spaniard came here and said she admired our work ethic and our clean, modern looking buildings and our countries sense of youth and vigor?

I don't think so. All Paltrow is saying is A. Things are different in Spain and B. she likes it there. Those are not shiatting on America. Or is no one allowed to prefer living in another country, or enjoy it more than America?

Is no one allowed to enjoy America more than other countries without being called a blithering nationalistic retard?

Blowmonkey

If you've ever been at a gathering and chanted USA, USA, USA, yeah you're part of the farking problem

Being patriotic and proud of one's country, in itself, is not a problem.

MrSteve007: Your_Huckleberry: MrSteve007: Compared to Spain - the US does suck.

Oh, you just like that giant solar tower thing they have... Sahara just did not do that thing justice.

Yeah, their dedication to solar power is cool, but of the couple times I've been there, one of the foremost I recall was being able to order alcohol in a restaurant at age 15 and no one caring.

That, and the beautiful, nice people, pleasant weather, well laid out cities with all forms of activity all night, wonderful beaches and the afternoon siestas also contribute to my love of Spain.

/mmm, craving some sangria right now

Never been to Spain myself, my one chance to visit (so far) was eliminated by the first Gulf War. But I have read/seen lots a good stuff on the country. I'd like to go someday, just like I'd like to return to Hong Kong.

WhileAmericaBurns: RemyDuron: WhileAmericaBurns: Here's a mental exercise: if Gwyneth actually were Spanish, would her comments make her a "blithering nationalistic retard"?

You mean, if the situation was different, would it be different?

And to actually answer your question, which I am reluctant to do because your name is "WhileAmericaBurns", no, not really, because it's farking true. It's not insulting to say the Spanish have a longer history and a more laid back attitude, on average, than us. Would it be a shiat on Spain if a Spaniard came here and said she admired our work ethic and our clean, modern looking buildings and our countries sense of youth and vigor?

I don't think so. All Paltrow is saying is A. Things are different in Spain and B. she likes it there. Those are not shiatting on America. Or is no one allowed to prefer living in another country, or enjoy it more than America?

Is no one allowed to enjoy America more than other countries without being called a blithering nationalistic retard?

No, you would have to be a blithering nationalistic retard to not see that Spain has more history and their culture is not laid back. Which is exactly what I implied in my original post.

RemyDuron: No, you would have to be a blithering nationalistic retard to not see that Spain has more history and their culture is not more laid back. Which is exactly what I implied in my original post.

FTFM

Gwen dear, TITS or GTFO!

RemyDuron: WhileAmericaBurns: RemyDuron: WhileAmericaBurns: Here's a mental exercise: if Gwyneth actually were Spanish, would her comments make her a "blithering nationalistic retard"?

You mean, if the situation was different, would it be different?

And to actually answer your question, which I am reluctant to do because your name is "WhileAmericaBurns", no, not really, because it's farking true. It's not insulting to say the Spanish have a longer history and a more laid back attitude, on average, than us. Would it be a shiat on Spain if a Spaniard came here and said she admired our work ethic and our clean, modern looking buildings and our countries sense of youth and vigor?

I don't think so. All Paltrow is saying is A. Things are different in Spain and B. she likes it there. Those are not shiatting on America. Or is no one allowed to prefer living in another country, or enjoy it more than America?

Is no one allowed to enjoy America more than other countries without being called a blithering nationalistic retard?

No, you would have to be a blithering nationalistic retard to not see that Spain has more history and their culture is not laid back. Which is exactly what I implied in my original post.

OK, what if that doesn't matter to someone? Just because their personal preferences don't match yours is no reason to call them a retard.

I doubt there's any building in Spain older than the 4th century A.D., putting Gwennyth Paltrow off by a measly 800 years or so. In fact I'd bet most of the architecture in Spain is on the order of 400-500 years old, tops, for the oldest buildings, given the wars, invasions and population movements of the last 2000 years on the Iberian peninsula.

chemical_angel: The author is a hopeless retard.

Retarded? No. Clueless? Yes. Nationalistic? Yes. Unable to accept honest criticism? Yes.

I am extremely offended by Gwenyth Paltrow's statements.

They conflict with my view that the United States is superior to every other country in the world in every possible way.

I can only assume that she must be some sort of communist, and is probably in league with Satan. Burn the witch!

What sort of a pussy gets into a hissy fit anytime they are insulted in even the most mild of manners?

America, fark Yeah!

WhileAmericaBurns: Is no one allowed to enjoy America more than other countries without being called a blithering nationalistic retard?

Yes they can. It isn't enjoying your own country more or being patriotic that makes you a blithering nationalistic retard it is a)how ignorant you make yourself look in the process and b)how you chose to express said pride and patriotism.

I find immigrants tend to be able to better express their pride in their new country then most citizens because they chose to live there and become citizens. Craig Furgeson expressing why he loves being an American for instance, my GF and her family on why they love being Canadian (they just became citizens yesterday), etc. Of course many native-born citizens do it well also.

2chris2: I am extremely offended by the people who are offended by Gwenyth Paltrow's statements.

They conflict with my view that the United States every other country in the world is superior to every other country in the world the United States in every possible way.

I can only assume that she they must be some sort of communist fascists, and is are probably in league with Satan Dick Cheney. Burn the witch patriots!

WhileAmericaBurns: 2chris2: I am extremely offended by the people who are offended by Gwenyth Paltrow's statements.

They conflict with my view that the United States every other country in the world is superior to every other country in the world the United States in every possible way.

I can only assume that she they must be some sort of communist fascists, and is are probably in league with Satan Dick Cheney. Burn the witch patriots!

lolwut?

Bite the hand that feeds you much, Bleachbrain?

First, I am disappointed in Subby and the Arthur of that article. I was expecting a tirade about how the U.S. isn't Socialistic enough or our lack of Universal Healthcare, not using the Metric System or some other bullshiat.

Secondly, when it comes to the building thing, we've been a country for less than 300 years and if she wants old ass buildings, in Colorado there are ruins of ancient pueblos that go back even further than 500 B.C. that are carved into the farking mountain side.

Don't throw your trash in my backyard, my backyard, my backyard.

Don't throw your trash in my backyard.

Pepper Pepper Pepper Potts.

Fat and Nasty 86: Don't throw your trash in my backyard, my backyard, my backyard.

Don't throw your trash in my backyard.

Pepper Pepper Pepper Potts.

You forgot the other ending to that refrain: "My backyard's full."

I decided that Gwennie was a douche when she ate only macrobiotic in Spain...how do you limit what you eat in a country that makes anthony bourdain weep with culinary joy... also when she called Billie Joel william... WTF?

Not really a slam that I read in that quote...but whatever.

I think she needs to pay more attention if she thinks an "old" building here is 17 years old though.

And, hey Gwyneth, we apologize that we didn't steal this country from the natives until only a few hundred years ago.

It's a wonder there are not more 1,000 year old buildings in a country that only began building less than half that duration of time ago.

skinnycatullus: BobtheFascist: She thinks buildings in the US are only 17? I guess she doesn't get out of LA much.

Or, ya know, it's hyperbole.

If that's hyperbole, it is even stupider than if she were being literal. It's like saying...Babies are so undeveloped...They don't even have teeth.

Spain, huh? Well, she did indeed pick a country with a storied history...of which I am guessing she knows almost none.

Reverend Otis: What's in the box? WHAT'S IN THE BOX!

essucht: Spain, huh? Well, she did indeed pick a country with a storied history...of which I am guessing she knows almost none.

Oy Vey! You ain't kidding



At least the synagogues in the US are older...

Blowmonkey: If you've ever been at a gathering and chanted USA, USA, USA, yeah you're part of the farking problem.

True, American sports fans and players don't tend to be as colorful as their European equivalents.

Subtard wrote that headline over a meal of Freedom Toast while watching Glenn Beck fellate Bill O'Reilly.

Give me like five minutes, Gwyneth. I'll be right over.

WhileAmericaBurns: Is no one allowed to enjoy America more than other countries without being called a blithering nationalistic retard?

There is nothing wrong with loving your country. What is irritating is the peculiar form of patriotism that is so common among American and French people.

It's the tendency to bang on about how much greater (or, for the French, more cultured and sophisticated) their own country is than anyone else's, and the insistence that the world owes them a favour for sharing their greatness with them.

It's grating and it makes you look pathetically insecure and deeply ignorant.

RemyDuron: How is it a shiat on the US to say that our buildings are newer (they are) and we have a less extensive history as a country(we do)?

I don't know, maybe the condescending tone most people take when they say things like that has something to do with getting peoples hackles up.

You can make an observation without sounding like a total dick to be sure, it's just too bad most people are unable to do so.

tartie_pants: I decided that Gwennie was a douche when she ate only macrobiotic in Spain...how do you limit what you eat in a country that makes anthony bourdain weep with culinary joy... also when she called Billie Joel william... WTF?

I remember some show,( probably one of those comedians ripping people things on VH1 or E) where they were really giving her crap over the way she was pronouncing Anthony Hopkins' name, "AnnTony" or such. Didn't she also get made fun of for some....interesting...blog posts or some advice website? I think the Farker who says she lives in her own little bubble probably has it pretty accurate.

Gordon Bennett: It's grating and it makes you look pathetically insecure and deeply ignorant.

When someone you don't like calls your kid ugly people tend to get pissed off.
And Gwenyth is one of the least likable people I know of.

Spain is great BTW.

Some people take things way too personally.

I wouldn't mind spending some extended time in Europe. Wait, my job only gives me 2 weeks vacation per year.

WhileAmericaBurns: RemyDuron: WhileAmericaBurns: RemyDuron: WhileAmericaBurns: Here's a mental exercise: if Gwyneth actually were Spanish, would her comments make her a "blithering nationalistic retard"?

You mean, if the situation was different, would it be different?

And to actually answer your question, which I am reluctant to do because your name is "WhileAmericaBurns", no, not really, because it's farking true. It's not insulting to say the Spanish have a longer history and a more laid back attitude, on average, than us. Would it be a shiat on Spain if a Spaniard came here and said she admired our work ethic and our clean, modern looking buildings and our countries sense of youth and vigor?

I don't think so. All Paltrow is saying is A. Things are different in Spain and B. she likes it there. Those are not shiatting on America. Or is no one allowed to prefer living in another country, or enjoy it more than America?

Is no one allowed to enjoy America more than other countries without being called a blithering nationalistic retard?

No, you would have to be a blithering nationalistic retard to not see that Spain has more history and their culture is not laid back. Which is exactly what I implied in my original post.

OK, what if that doesn't matter to someone? Just because their personal preferences don't match yours is no reason to call them a retard.

. . .

*head desk*

So, if someone personally prefers the history and culture of Spain to the US, that's shiatting on the US. But we wouldn't want to judge people for their personal preferences.

I still like her even though she thinks New York is an accurate representation of the US. She's a beer from the can kinda girl and that's hot.

marsgwar: There are plenty of places in America where you can live a relaxed lifestyle. I hate it when people describe America as New York. She's probably too good to step outside the city and see what else there is. And when you name your kid after fruit I can't really take anything you say seriously.

Uh, you think non urban places have a more relaxed lifestyle?

I grew up in and have lived in what is nominally "the South" for my whole life. Trust me, while it may be more relaxed than New York it is NOT more relaxed than Spain or even France.

Have you ever been to France or Spain?

rka: RemyDuron: How is it a shiat on the US to say that our buildings are newer (they are) and we have a less extensive history as a country(we do)?

I don't know, maybe the condescending tone most people take when they say things like that has something to do with getting peoples hackles up.

You can make an observation without sounding like a total dick to be sure, it's just too bad most people are unable to do so.

I don't think she sounded condescending. I think people take offense anytime anyone suggest America isn't the greatest place in the world.

I bet subby misspelled her name just so that he could chuckle at all the copycats in this thread.

She has a point about the Crackberries.
I can't stand the jackholes that complain about their connectivity.

She has incredible legs.

No pictures? Very disappointing.

I read in Newsweek that she drinks human blood.

It sounds like the author got shut down by her.

/bitter?

Sid_6.7: kronicfeld: I will be damned if she will condemn my Blackberry.

Are you being sarcastic? RIM is Canadian.

You couldn't tell if he was being sarcastic? You might want to move along to another site.

Nabb1: Oh, for crying out loud, what she said about buildings in the US versus Europe is demonstrably true, and one of the things I actually enjoy about traveling there. The second part was mainly about New York City, and I happen to agree with her on that, too.

Agreed. That's what I found so strange when I went to England for the first time. The building I ate lunch in was over 320 years old, and that wasn't the oldest.

But she married Chris Martin, which speaks loads.

why does anybody pay attention to what she said?

blond, female, actress

the stupid trifecta.

nicksteel: why does anybody pay attention to what she said?

blond, female, actress

the stupid trifecta.

Because she rejected the author's clumsy attempts to mate with her?

What she said is sorta true but also shows a lack of exposure to the U.S. Major cities where there is a large amount of money to be made have a lot of middle class folks working long hours and walking around with blackberries. Cities with less of a prize tend to have fewer of those people. This isn't just an American phenomenon, and it's not everywhere in the U.S.

The "older culture" bit is common, but ridiculous. The United States is a product of most European cultures and more recently, non-European cultures, with a heavy emphasis toward the Germanic Protestant cultures, and is every bit as old as any of them. Immigration patterns change decade by decade, and American culture changes as parts of those immigrants' cultures are absorbed and some lost. The same thing happens in Europe. Cultures ebb and flow and mix and claim their own heritage. The Gauls that inhabited what is now France have more in common with the Irish of today than the French. The Greeks of Greece have hardly anything to do with the Hellenic cultures of the Classical era or even the Byzantines of the medieval era.

The idea that a culture starts new or is immature is ridiculous. What the person claiming a civilization is old is usually trying to imply is that the "older" culture is more mature... has figured things out. Ignorant nonsense.

I used to live in an apartment in a house in NJ that was built in 1750.

That's older than 17 years.

That is all.

So you know what's stupid, she tells the truth and people consider it "Taking a shiat on the US"

It's like "Yeah the Middle East has a rich heritage and it has architecture from thousands of years ago"

"ZOMG YOU HATE THE STATES!

She sounds like she's never been anywhere in the US but NYC. Maybe if she left Manhattan or Hollywood, she might see that all of the US isn't quite the same as in those two fast-paced places that (evidently) don't care about family.

oldfarthenry: Oekss: Yea, America doesn't have any history to appreciate at all. Nope. None of that shiat here!

Here's my favourite bit of US history.

Oh, no you di'nt. Learn to zpell Mouran!

I do not care in the least what she has to say. I would however, absolutely love to fark the living shiat out of her, repeatedly and with enthusiasm. That is all.

Dear Gwenalamadingdong,
http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

oh and Claire Danes is much much better and hotter then you.
good luck in spain.

Sid_6.7: RIM is Canadian.

Oh, but the money market for them is all American. Canadians come up with great ideas, but it takes Americans to be assholes with them.

/BES admin.
//LOVES the Blackberry.

elvisaintdead: Well, I've never been to Spain, but I kinda like the music.

You should go to Oklahoma.

FMLYHM: Oh, Gwenyth Paltrow said something? Who gives a fark?

Seems like you answered that question just by being here.

i'm building a retaining wall out back.

i, formally, invite ms. paltrow to visit casa del derek in 2026 so that i might bend her over the wall and fark the ever loving shiat of america into her!

/love it or leave it!
//oh, she did. sorry.
///spain does rock.
////would've posted earlier. 'cept i had to break out a calculator to figure out the date on the invite above.

It's true to an extent, I've been in the military for the past 12 years and have no desire whatsoever to go back to the states. Sure I recognize it as a modern superpower with great standards of living... but places like Japan, Germany, Spain, etc.. are just nice.

-Quiet hours from 10pm-6am like no noise ever, no reason for Police people just respect it
-Public transportation that doesn't suck
-Lower crime
-Everyone drinks but not all kinds of problems with binge drinking in youths
-More common courtesies (it's considered rude to bring a check to your table in a restaurant before you ask for it)
-It's harder to get a license so while everyone drives faster people actually know how to control their vehicles, so it's actually less chaotic.

It's just hundreds of little things that slowly add up to make a difference.

In the past 12 years for about a year I was stateside and my 8 year-old daughter came home from her first day of school in tears because of how mean everyone was compared to the kids in Japan.

As a whole USA accomplishes great things, on the individual level, People aren't that polite or courteous. I remember someone introducing themselves to me once in the states and I was shocked when they said their first and last name and that they didn't immediately start with "Where's my X/Y/Z? I put in the order yesterday", most Americans are all about "Me, Me, Me, Now, Now, Now".

Where in the article did she take a dump on the US? I musta missed that.

Also, would hit.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Ok, I've got to take up a couple of points. After living in the Baltics and traveling every chance I got here is my take on your take.

Since I know you're a right-wing nutbag and were so nice in your responses, I'll follow up with nice reponses and not say mean things like "right-wing nutbag".

CitizenTed: - Better educated, healthier, attractive populace

They are big on walking over there. That helps alot. Few own cars and cabs are costly.

It's not just the walking. European folks age better. Especially central Europeans and Scandinavians. Part of it is more exercise and a better diet, and I think part of it is simply making an effort to carry oneself with dignity. We Americans have become slobbish, fat nonces. We weren't always this way; it's a recent thing.

CitizenTed: - More thoughtful civic design

BULL! Were you ever sober over there?!? Most major towns were built hundreds of years ago and their main focus was foot traffic and sometimes a cart. Many were built to make invading forces kill themselves rather then find the center of the city!

That's exactly my point. Erecting strip malls and endless single family tract home developments where the car is the focal point of all community interaction denudes civic life. This is also a recent development (post-war) in the US. Main Street is long gone, replaced by the mall. Walkable neighborhoods? You're lucky to have a fraking sidewalk nowadays. The car rules. Well I don't want to interact with cars anymore. I prefer people. Europe had the vision to maintain walkable, regional towns and cities. America is a lumpy hodge-podge of developer greed, nothing more.

CitizenTed: - More developed sense of community

Does that mean they treat each other well and shiat on everyone else? For the most part service in Germany, Austria, Lithuania and Latvia sucks. You're lucky to get a refill on anything and if the waiter comes by your table more then 3 times the entire time you're lucky.

It means that they have a central core in every village, town and city where you can shop, eat, do business and people-watch all at once. This leads inevitably to "knowing your neighbors". In the US, who gives a fark who the neighbors are? What are they, busybodies? I bet they want to rape my kids. Ignore them and turn up the TV. I agree that Hungarians, Slavs and Russians are tough nuts to crack when it comes to overt friendliness. But once you get to know them, they will gladly kill your enemies for you. That's Eastern European love, man.

CitizenTed: - More thoughtful resource management

Sure

Then why does every effort to emulate or accept any European conservation method get stymied by whaargarbl? For instance, I think the use of compact, on-demand water heaters is brilliant. When I mention this to anyone, the immediate response is "Will it have any impact on me enjoying instant-on 500 gallons a minute showers? Then I don't want it!" But I guess since we are so fat, we do need lots of hot water to hose down our enormous girth...

CitizenTed: - Significantly better (fantastic) public transit systems

OH HELL YEAH. In countries or between countries the rail system in Germany is the absolute best.

Our beloved and well-regarded transit systems were raided and destroyed by GM and its conspirators in the 30's and 40's. They weren't the sole cause of the demise of electric transit, but their campaign was largely successful. (The book "Internal Combustion" was a real eye-opener.) What are we left with? Cars and more cars. To quote that lunatic Kunstler: "America has a rail transit system the Bulgarians would be ashamed of".

CitizenTed: - Less emphasis on commercialism

I dont know about that. The ladies like the Italian designers no matter where you go. I may have to say its a tie in that dept

I disagree. When you go to a commercial district in Europe, businesses hang small signs. That's it. Their TV and radio isn't 35% commercials. Erecting a massive neon display is considered tacky. I'd place the commercialism-tackiness scale with Japan and Hong Kong at the top, the US in the middle and Europe at the bottom.

CitizenTed: - Less polarized politics

Depends on where and when you are there. Around election times in certain countries he can get really heated. But during the bulk of the year it really does not matter to them. So I could see you believe that if you passed through quickly and at the right time.

I was in Austria during national elections when everyone was freaking out over Joerg Haider. It was difficult to tell locals that Haider was essentially a mainstream Republican; in America he would be a nondescript senator from Mississippi. In Austria (outside Styria), he was considered the living embodiment of Hitler. Hell, they would likely view a centrist Democrat like Mark Udall as a right-wing fascist nutbag. Most European political battles are between mildly center-left and mildly center-right. Because Europe has learned all to well what happens when narrow right-wing ideologies get too much power, they certainly bend left. Yet they still don't have too much love for the loony left and the commies, whom they tolerate but refuse to embolden. Overall, European politics tends to be mushy. They are far more interested in specific policy than silly name-calling games.

It's not that I hate America. But every time I come back home from Canada or Europe, I look at my country like I look at a stupid, slobbish little brother. Why can't you get your shiat together? Why can't we have nice things?

CitizenTed: stuff

you forgot nascar vs. f1/football vs. football

/you hate jesus too, don't'cha?

Gwenyth Paltrow to the US: You suck

What, again?

To punish her for this insolence I'm gonna make her do ass2mouth when I spank off to her on Sunday night.

CitizenTed: It's not that I hate America. But every time I come back home from Canada or Europe, I look at my country like I look at a stupid, slobbish little brother. Why can't you get your shiat together? Why can't we have nice things?

I love traveling Europe too, but let's not pretend they don't have their own blemishes as well. If we're specifically talking about Spain, we'll .. let's just say I've seen racism over there that would make a American Southern Klansman blush. We're talking about a country that is known for throwing bananas on the field and making gorilla sounds at the African football (ie soccer) players.

The biggest difference between the USA and other countries is that the USA is a country with no dirty secrets because our dirty laundry is aired out in syndicated television for everyone to see (yes, it's mortifying to travel the world and see that Jerry Springer, Maury and Fear Factor are shown all over the world). Other countries get to sweep their ugliness under the rug.

I too have a deep affection for Spain and a few other nations as well, all great places to live/visit. None of them compare to home.

I pity this woman for having lost that sentiment.

I was all prepared to throw her in the Kate Hudson trash bin, then I read the article.....

Ms. Paltrow may be shocked to learn this, but I really don't care about her opinion on anything.

So... she said some nice things about Spain. Oh noes, that traitorous devil-women, how dare she. I mean, who does she think she is, musing on innocuous stuff like differences in pace and perceptions of antiquity? Burn the witch!

Please tell me that blog post was some silly attempt at satire of jingoism.

/New Yorker, if it matters a damn.

The headline, and the article are almost incomprehensibly stupid. I fail to see how appreciating a different culture and historical architecture is "taking a shiat on the US".

The author is also a mouthbreating farktard.

She can live anywhere she wants.She has the cash and type of career that allows her her to pick up and move when she's bored but saying an old building in the U.S. is 17 years old and she lives in NYC makes her a farking idiot.

Hmm - maybe she meant 17th century? Then again, she _is_ a blonde.

Perhaps she should spend a little more time "nourishing her inner aspect" and a little less time being condescending to the country of her birth.

World to Gwenyth Paltrow: Get over yourself.

bwesb: I too have a deep affection for Spain and a few other nations as well, all great places to live/visit. None of them compare to home.

I pity this woman for having lost that sentiment.

Well put. I've been all over Asia and Europe...had a fantastic time just about everywhere, but I love coming back.

I Said: FTA: "It is so different from the United States. It seemed to have a history, and the buildings are years and years and years old. Here in the United States an old building is about 17 (years old), and over there it's from 500 B.C., it's incredible," she tells the Associated Press.

ok.
a) I don't think she understands history at all. American, Spanish, or world for that matter.
b) Hollywood, the place/industry which she is a part of, is a large cause for America's attitude that "new is always better"

It SEEMED to have a history?! It SEEMED to have a history?

Yeah she needs to stop talking and do something useful with that mouth of hers.

From TFA
"Also, the way people live over there. They seem to enjoy life a little bit more," she continued. "They aren't running around as much as in New York. They enjoy time with the family. They don't always have their Blackberries on."

OMG how could that biach say something so... um ... true? How... dare she?

Different places are different! Like, Spain DOES have a different pace of life on average. People DO have more time for their family (for example, paid maternity leave (new window), average number of days of paid vacation (new window)). That statement isn't even a slam on New York or the US. Stuff is different and I have a preference for A over B is just a statement.

What's next? ZOMG she prefers Vanilla over Chocolate, how dare she insult chocolate lovers everywhere! What a beyoch!

8 inches: Perhaps she should spend a little more time "nourishing her inner aspect" and a little less time being condescending to the country of her birth.

Maybe you should lighten up, Francis. She didn't say anything that bad at all. So she likes Spain, nothing to get a sandy vagina over.

Obviously Francis, you don't remember when she said THIS too:

"I love the English lifestyle, it's not as capitalistic as America. People don't talk about work and money, they talk about interesting things at dinner," she told "NS," the weekend magazine supplement of daily Portuguese newspaper Diario de Noticias on Saturday.

"I like living here because I don't fit into the bad side of American psychology. The British are much more intelligent and civilized than the Americans," the 34-year-old added.

Let's just hope next time Shatner's Bassoon remembers to speak when spoken to.

she's pretty repugnant
showed up on letterman awhile back covered in vaseline or something
during the break they made her wipe it off

she was still gross, just a lot less glisteny