Here's the video of his end-zone celebration. (new window)

Typical Canadian football team:

In before "canadian football is so much better than the NFL".

It could've easily been a tribute to Jeff Goldblum.

How can anyone construe that as a Michael Jackson reference?

CFL receiver in trouble after celebrating touchdown


A compact fluorescent light receiver scored a touchdown?


I really don't understand football.

I don't get it.

In case any of you didn't hear...

FTA: "The 50-year-old iconic entertainer died last week."

In before I like the "I like the light skinned Michael Jackson more than the darker skinned Michael Jackson"

Car_Ramrod: It could've easily been a tribute to Jeff Goldblum.

I heard he died the other day.

I did the exact same celebration the last time I won a game of chess.

Who am I kidding, I've never won a game of chess.

I thought he was doing an immitation of T.O.'s career.

zabadu: How can anyone construe that as a Michael Jackson reference?

well maybe he told them.....


Either way, this is not the kind of super showboating that goes on in the US.

40below: Here's the video of his end-zone celebration. (new window)

What the hell? Did he get up and scream "Hey! I was being dead Michael Jackson! Yeah, that's my MJ impression right there!!"

Would anyone know what the hell he was doing there if he just kept his mouth shut? Or did everyone guess?

The 50-year-old iconic entertainer died last week.

Kind of old for a football player, even in the Canadian league. And I don't think a CFL player qualifies as an "iconic entertainer."

The "celebration" was lame. He could've at least moonwalked before he died.

He jerked off a little boy?

zabadu: How can anyone construe that as a Michael Jackson reference?

Arland Bruce (the player who did it) was asked about it on the sidelines after and said it was a Michael Jackson tribute.

zabadu: How can anyone construe that as a Michael Jackson reference?

Not much of a reference if you explain it and still no one gets it.
Still love those Argo uniforms though.

Butterfinger: I thought he was doing an immitation of T.O.'s career.

T.O. died many seasons ago.

Maybe I should start watching CFL football. Sounds like they aren't as pretentious when it comes to "cracking down" on player's celebrations.

bruce4bruce: In before I like the "I like the light skinned Michael Jackson more than the darker skinned Michael Jackson"

I liked the dark skinned Michael Jackson during the "Rock with you" era, and I liked the light skinned Michael Jackson during the "Earth Song" and "Black or White" era.

I take it MJ isn't getting buried with his shoulder pads?

At least his tribute didn't involve inviting one of the boys from the stands as part of "his endzone" tribute

When did Michael Jackson die?

NorCalLos: He could've at least moonwalked before he died.

That could have helped folks figure out what he was intending.

The last time I was in Montreal I was sitting in a pub drinking my beer when I saw they had the CFL on TV. Before this I didn't know there was a difference in rules. I asked the bartender why there were more yards on the field. I was treated to a 20 minute diatribe about all the different rules and why each were superior.

Remembering I didn't give a shiat about US or Canadian football, I learned my lesson and will from now on no longer engage locals in a Canadian bar.

Fark Michael Jackson, you don't take off your pads and lie on the ground after a touchdown...period.

Crazy Canuck.

Car_Ramrod: It could've easily been a tribute to Jeff Goldblum.

The new Abe Vigoda?

He didn't look like a Lego to me.

gorgor: He jerked off a little boy?

He climbed a tree?

He should have moonwalked, grabbed his heart, then fell over.

They have football in Canada?

CapitolG: zabadu: How can anyone construe that as a Michael Jackson reference?

well maybe he told them.....


Either way, this is not the kind of super showboating that goes on in the US.

I'm a CFL fan and I felt he should have been ejected (you can get ejected for excessive objectionable conduct) for that display.

Last year, the same guy pulled off his helmet and put on a Spider-man mask.

I've been seeing too much of this coordinated stuff for years in the CFL and it should be stopped. It makes the players doing it look like idiots. We've had guys pretending to be bobsledders, using another player and pretending to be on an exercise bike, players having a game of Duck-Duck-Goose and so forth. Ridiculous.

Minimize the celebration if you have one, do it by yourself and then get the hell off the field.

EsteeFlwrPot: I don't get it.

Christ, you're still around??? I was hoping you were welcoming MJ through the gates of hell.

Think what the NFL would do to this clown for stripping off his gear in an end-zone 'celebration'.

Super Chronic: Car_Ramrod: It could've easily been a tribute to Jeff Goldblum.

The new Abe Vigoda?

I've never seen them in the same room together.

epyonyx: When did Michael Jackson die?

He didn't... it was just a prank on The Colbert Report.

henryhill: He should have moonwalked, grabbed his heart, then fell over.

And then get up and do the Thriller dance.

News: There is a Canadian Football League
Fark: They play American football

Man, Canadians are REALLY good at Charades...

Did you guys hear Megan Fox is bisexual?

/was MJ bisexual?

dennysgod: Fark Michael Jackson, you don't take off your pads and lie on the ground after a touchdown...period.

Crazy Canuck.

Actually, the player who did it is an American.

Arland Bruce (new window)

Most of the Canadian players show a little more respect and just hand the ball to the referee after scoring.

There's black people in Canada?

Fibber McLiarson: EsteeFlwrPot: I don't get it.

Christ, you're still around??? I was hoping you were welcoming MJ through the gates of hell.

lmao I thought I was the only one that felt that way.

epyonyx: When did Michael Jackson die?

I think he's still alive but retired from the Ravens.

nosferatublue: gorgor: He jerked off a little boy?

He climbed a tree?

He gave wine to little boys?

Norad: What the hell? Did he get up and scream "Hey! I was being dead Michael Jackson! Yeah, that's my MJ impression right there!!"

My feeling is that until the CFL gets tough and starts assessing immediate rouges on teams whose players behave like this, the league is going to Come-By-Chance on a Chesterfield, as we say aroond here.

Vern the Worm: Butterfinger: I thought he was doing an immitation of T.O.'s career.

T.O. died many seasons ago.



What was that? I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of 3 consecutive 1000 yard, 10+ TD seasons.

Fibber McLiarson: EsteeFlwrPot: I don't get it.

Christ, you're still around??? I was hoping you were welcoming MJ through the gates of hell.

If by gates of hell you mean your moms vagina then yes.

/Does anyone know how MJ's kids are doing?

asleep71: nosferatublue: gorgor: He jerked off a little boy?

He climbed a tree?

He gave wine to little boys?

He gave a shiat about football?

NorCalLos: The "celebration" was lame. He could've at least moonwalked before he died.

I was thinking the same thing.

*moonwalks*... *collapses*

*audience applause and laughter*

nimblehuman: News: There is a Canadian Football League
Fark: They play American football

Uh, no. American Football is actually based on a Canadian version of rugby.

In the 1860s, McGill University played two games of rugby against Harvard; one with American rules, one with Harvard rules. Harvard liked the game so much they adopted the Canadian ruleset. The rules in each country diverged over time (at one time, a Canadian football field of play was 100 yards long, not 110 yards).

There is a very odd and creepy connection between black athletes and Michael Jackson

PfizerX: MICHAEL JACKSON DIED?!

Who's Michael Jackson? Is he that pitchman?

roughridersfan: I've been seeing too much of this coordinated stuff for years in the CFL and it should be stopped. It makes the players doing it look like idiots. We've had guys pretending to be bobsledders, using another player and pretending to be on an exercise bike, players having a game of Duck-Duck-Goose and so forth. Ridiculous.

For me, the most embarrassing part is imagining them all coming up with ideas, and rehearsing them to see what "works" for them: "How about duck-duck-goose? You three sit down and I'll run over..."

CFL or NFL, it doesn't matter. You look retarded.

EsteeFlwrPot: /Does anyone know how MJ's kids are doing?

Better, now that they don't have to suck Daddy off to sleep every night.

*ducks*

My roommate asked me why so many people from the black community like Michael Jackson since he pretty much rejected his race, dyed his skin white, had tons of surgery to change his nose and lips. I told her it was because he made Thriller.

/Don't know the real answer, but Thriller was awesome.

The Southern Dandy: PfizerX: MICHAEL JACKSON DIED?!

Who's Michael Jackson? Is he that pitchman?

I think you mean pitcher, but that's golf. Dumbass.

MightyPez: The last time I was in Montreal I was sitting in a pub drinking my beer when I saw they had the CFL on TV. Before this I didn't know there was a difference in rules. I asked the bartender why there were more yards on the field. I was treated to a 20 minute diatribe about all the different rules and why each were superior.

Remembering I didn't give a shiat about US or Canadian football, I learned my lesson and will from now on no longer engage locals in a Canadian ANY bar about anything local they might be actively engaged in watching at the time.

FTFY

That's just standard for locals at a bar isn't it?

roughridersfan: Either way, this is not the kind of super showboating that goes on in the US.

I'm a CFL fan and I felt he should have been ejected (you can get ejected for excessive objectionable conduct) for that display.

Last year, the same guy pulled off his helmet and put on a Spider-man mask.

Zing, Guess I was wrong.

roughridersfan: Actually, the player who did it is an American.

Arland Bruce (new window)

Most of the Canadian players show a little more respect and just hand the ball to the referee after scoring.

OK that explains it, he is in training for the NFL.

My Baloney Has No First Name: henryhill: He should have moonwalked, grabbed his heart, then fell over.

And then get up and do the Thriller dance.

That. Would. Be. AWESOME.

EZ Writer: EsteeFlwrPot: /Does anyone know how MJ's kids are doing?

Better, now that they don't have to suck Daddy off to sleep every night.

*ducks*

Yea, he's stiff on his own, now.

EZ Writer: EsteeFlwrPot: /Does anyone know how MJ's kids are doing?

Better, now that they don't have to suck Daddy off to sleep every night.

*ducks*

I thought they might secretly be relieved because they don't have to wear those masks in public anymore but he was their father so probably not.

"by pretending to be a dead Michael Jackson"

Is there any other kind?

wsommerv: MightyPez: The last time I was in Montreal I was sitting in a pub drinking my beer when I saw they had the CFL on TV. Before this I didn't know there was a difference in rules. I asked the bartender why there were more yards on the field. I was treated to a 20 minute diatribe about all the different rules and why each were superior.

Remembering I didn't give a shiat about US or Canadian football, I learned my lesson and will from now on no longer engage locals in a Canadian ANY bar about anything local they might be actively engaged in watching at the time.

FTFY

That's just standard for locals at a bar isn't it?

Thus far it's only been Canada. Inferiority complex of something.

dabbletech: "by pretending to be a dead Michael Jackson"

Is there any other kind?

zombie Michael Jackson

EsteeFlwrPot: I told her it was because he made Thriller

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.

What would the league done if he had done a different Jackson tribute and jumped into the stands and molested a small boy?

He should have done a smooth criminal lean before toppling over.

nosferatublue: gorgor: He jerked off a little boy?

He climbed a tree?

They said it was pecker wood.

EsteeFlwrPot: I don't get it.

Neither do I? Maybe he was doing it as a tribute to Farrah Fawcett, Karl Malden, or Ed McMahon.

CFL receiver in trouble after celebrating touchdown by pretending to be a dead Michael Jackson.

So he just laid flat on the ground or what?

Why does the NFL always have to go after black football players? Unreasonable displays of pride in meaningless accomplishments is part of their culture, and the NFL is racist for fining them.

Razorwolf: CFL receiver in trouble after celebrating touchdown by pretending to be a dead Michael Jackson.

So he just laid flat on the ground or what?

Actually, yes

I am at a loss for words as to how FARKING STUPID this is. Carry on.

The CFL too. Also racist.

"But he's straight with it now, and I think next time around he will celebrate in an appropriate manner."


So he'll imitate a dead Bea Arthur?

He jerked off a little boy?

He climbed a tree?

He gave wine to little boys?

He gave a shiat about football?

He had a ?

PsyLord: EsteeFlwrPot: I don't get it.

Neither do I? Maybe he was doing it as a tribute to Farrah Fawcett, Karl Malden, or Ed McMahon.

Or David Carradine, Billy Mays, the economy...

roughridersfan: CapitolG: zabadu: How can anyone construe that as a Michael Jackson reference?

well maybe he told them.....


Either way, this is not the kind of super showboating that goes on in the US.

I'm a CFL fan and I felt he should have been ejected (you can get ejected for excessive objectionable conduct) for that display.

Last year, the same guy pulled off his helmet and put on a Spider-man mask.

I've been seeing too much of this coordinated stuff for years in the CFL and it should be stopped. It makes the players doing it look like idiots. We've had guys pretending to be bobsledders, using another player and pretending to be on an exercise bike, players having a game of Duck-Duck-Goose and so forth. Ridiculous.

Minimize the celebration if you have one, do it by yourself and then get the hell off the field.


lol. i dont like football but now i want to watch.

tedbundee: The Southern Dandy: PfizerX: MICHAEL JACKSON DIED?!

Who's Michael Jackson? Is he that pitchman?

I think you mean pitcher, but that's golf. Dumbass.

I think he meant Billy Mays. Dumbass²

Canadian's play handegg as well? Weird.

Razorwolf: CFL receiver in trouble after celebrating touchdown by pretending to be a dead Michael Jackson.

So he just laid flat on the ground or what?

He removed his helmet while on the field (penalty), then took off his jersey and shoulder pads (they came off together), laid on the ground and crossed his arms like a dead man.

Shortly after on the sidelines, he said it was his tribute to Michael Jackson.

In the CFL's favour, the cheerleaders are very much worth watching:

Boberto: tedbundee: The Southern Dandy: PfizerX: MICHAEL JACKSON DIED?!

Who's Michael Jackson? Is he that pitchman?

I think you mean pitcher, but that's golf. Dumbass.

I think he meant Billy Mays. Dumbass2

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH


/you mean to tell me that guy would know who Billy Mays is, but not Michael Jackson? And that golf has pitchers? Jeez man, way to ruin the fun!

NorCalLos: The 50-year-old iconic entertainer died last week.

Kind of old for a football player, even in the Canadian league. And I don't think a CFL player qualifies as an "iconic entertainer."

The "celebration" was lame. He could've at least moonwalked before he died.

If he could moonwalk in cleats, he'd be the greatest dancer ever.

i'll let you in on a little secret, America. football players run up and down a field to carry a ball into the endzone for millions a year. and alot of young (and old) people think they are supermen and Heroes.

they aren't rocket scientists. just give them the ball and a juicy contract and they'll run with it.

MightyPez: wsommerv: MightyPez: The last time I was in Montreal I was sitting in a pub drinking my beer when I saw they had the CFL on TV. Before this I didn't know there was a difference in rules. I asked the bartender why there were more yards on the field. I was treated to a 20 minute diatribe about all the different rules and why each were superior.

Remembering I didn't give a shiat about US or Canadian football, I learned my lesson and will from now on no longer engage locals in a Canadian ANY bar about anything local they might be actively engaged in watching at the time.

FTFY

That's just standard for locals at a bar isn't it?

Thus far it's only been Canada. Inferiority complex of something.

Nah, that's not a Canadian thing in general, more of a CFL thing specifically.

40below: In the CFL's favour, the cheerleaders are very much worth watching:

So I see their cheerleaders are also NFL rejects...

I'm a Canadian who knows the CFL sucks. Most of us do, really. We just don't need to proselytize everybody.

EZ Writer: 40below: In the CFL's favour, the cheerleaders are very much worth watching:

So I see their cheerleaders are also NFL rejects rejects from the movie "The Replacements"...

FTFY

40below: In the CFL's favour, the cheerleaders are very much worth watching:

camel toe

Nakor BlueRider: Nah, that's not a Canadian thing in general, more of a CFL thing specifically.

That makes sense. Maybe I just instinctively stopped asking about US football for the same reason. See the Wisconsin DUI thread for proof.

do you remember the guy in class who was big and strong, well liked, and passed his classes without ever seeming to do any work???

well, he plays pro football now.


and he's your hero because the Boob Toob said so.

What are Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett getting for Christmas?

Patrick Swayze.

/CFL sucks
//Go Steelers

I'm still trying to understand why he would perform that type of action in a celebratory manner. I mean, what convinces anyone who just did something great to rip off their clothing and lie dead on the ground in tribute of a celebrity who has no relation to me whatsoever? Was there anything to indicate to the crowd of people he was performing this in front of that it was in fact a tribute to Michael Jackson? Knowing they would have no clue what he was doing, why would he do it? At the risk of facing punishment and fines? Even if this was a "tribute" to Michael, how exactly is it a tribute to his memory to lay down and look dead like a corpse? "Man, I love you Michael. Instead of saying a prayer for you and pointing the sky, or a dance move that would inform the crowd I enjoyed your music, I'm going to inexplicably rip off my shoulder pads and lie dead on the ground like your body currently looks. I know that's what you would have wanted." It just doesn't add up. It's farking stupid.

tedbundee: Boberto: tedbundee: The Southern Dandy: PfizerX: MICHAEL JACKSON DIED?!

Who's Michael Jackson? Is he that pitchman?

I think you mean pitcher, but that's golf. Dumbass.

I think he meant Billy Mays. Dumbass2

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH


/you mean to tell me that guy would know who Billy Mays is, but not Michael Jackson? And that golf has pitchers? Jeez man, way to ruin the fun!

I posted, went to do some work... mind clicked and I figured I'd check back in for an apology - wanted to make sure that you were aware you had indirectly pwned my brain.

PS. Good golf should have several pitchers, some before you get on the course, following the front 9, and plenty when you finish.

Linux_Yes: do you remember the guy in class who was big and strong, well liked, and passed his classes without ever seeming to do any work???

well, he plays pro football now.


and he's your hero because the Boob Toob said so.

Not putting in a lot of effort today, eh? Getting ready for the big weekend?

goneja: I'm still trying to understand why he would perform that type of action in a celebratory manner. I mean, what convinces anyone who just did something great to rip off their clothing and lie dead on the ground in tribute of a celebrity who has no relation to me whatsoever? Was there anything to indicate to the crowd of people he was performing this in front of that it was in fact a tribute to Michael Jackson? Knowing they would have no clue what he was doing, why would he do it? At the risk of facing punishment and fines? Even if this was a "tribute" to Michael, how exactly is it a tribute to his memory to lay down and look dead like a corpse? "Man, I love you Michael. Instead of saying a prayer for you and pointing the sky, or a dance move that would inform the crowd I enjoyed your music, I'm going to inexplicably rip off my shoulder pads and lie dead on the ground like your body currently looks. I know that's what you would have wanted." It just doesn't add up. It's farking stupid.

You need a hobby.

/approves

goneja: I'm still trying to understand why he would perform that type of action in a celebratory manner. I mean, what convinces anyone who just did something great to rip off their clothing and lie dead on the ground in tribute of a celebrity who has no relation to me whatsoever? Was there anything to indicate to the crowd of people he was performing this in front of that it was in fact a tribute to Michael Jackson? Knowing they would have no clue what he was doing, why would he do it? At the risk of facing punishment and fines? Even if this was a "tribute" to Michael, how exactly is it a tribute to his memory to lay down and look dead like a corpse? "Man, I love you Michael. Instead of saying a prayer for you and pointing the sky, or a dance move that would inform the crowd I enjoyed your music, I'm going to inexplicably rip off my shoulder pads and lie dead on the ground like your body currently looks. I know that's what you would have wanted." It just doesn't add up. It's farking stupid.

He's a football player, not a rocket scientist.

goneja: I'm still trying to understand why he would perform that type of action in a celebratory manner. I mean, what convinces anyone who just did something great to rip off their clothing and lie dead on the ground in tribute of a celebrity who has no relation to me whatsoever? Was there anything to indicate to the crowd of people he was performing this in front of that it was in fact a tribute to Michael Jackson? Knowing they would have no clue what he was doing, why would he do it? At the risk of facing punishment and fines? Even if this was a "tribute" to Michael, how exactly is it a tribute to his memory to lay down and look dead like a corpse? "Man, I love you Michael. Instead of saying a prayer for you and pointing the sky, or a dance move that would inform the crowd I enjoyed your music, I'm going to inexplicably rip off my shoulder pads and lie dead on the ground like your body currently looks. I know that's what you would have wanted." It just doesn't add up. It's farking stupid.

Well, that's Arland Bruce.

More talent than brains. As I mentioned previously, last year he put on a Spider-man mask after he scored a TD. He's an attention ho.

One of my favourites was some DB who copied what an NFL player did after scoring a TD. This guy intercepted a ball for a TD, pulled out a Sharpie and autographed it...except there was a penalty on the play, so the TD didn't count. It was pretty funny.

Another player actually hid a magazine in the goalpost pads. When he scored a TD, he pulled it out and started reading it.

Idiots. I don't mind a single player doing a brief celebration, but the moment you get players gathering around and everybody's doing something, or use props, it's beyond stupid.

EsteeFlwrPot, Jackson was boysexual.

emocomputerjock: NorCalLos: The 50-year-old iconic entertainer died last week.

Kind of old for a football player, even in the Canadian league. And I don't think a CFL player qualifies as an "iconic entertainer."

The "celebration" was lame. He could've at least moonwalked before he died.

If he could moonwalk in cleats, he'd be the greatest dancer ever.

What about the leg kick/point to Tito/crotch grab?

This Canadian can scrub me down any time.

About the only one I liked was 2 years ago when Matt Dominguez of the Saskatchewan Roughriders scored a TD and was interviewed in the endzone by one of his team mates. What made it great was that the network had a microphone on him so the audience could hear the interview.

It was quick, clever, and amusing. Three words I wouldn't associate with Arland Bruce.

Katalyst: What are Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett getting for Christmas?

Patrick Swayze.

/CFL sucks
//Go Steelers

Genius! And you didn't need a 12th man or forward motion before the snap to do it!

/Oh, and a bigger field, but we all know Canuckistani chicks are fatter
//If they weren't, they'd freeze

Fibber McLiarson: EsteeFlwrPot: I don't get it.

Christ, you're still around??? I was hoping you were welcoming MJ through the gates of hell.

LMAO, I cant stand that chick.

/Thanks Drew for the ignore list.

CapitolG: EsteeFlwrPot: I told her it was because he made Thriller

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.

Actually, John Landis made Thriller. Q simply produced the music/LP.

CFL thread?



Go Riders!

so... he got down there, scored... then touched little boys and remained to be famous?

FTA--"But he's straight with it now, and I think next time around he will celebrate in an appropriate manner."

Asking someone if they want fries with that? Good.

I think we'll see a lot of moonwalking in NFL endzones this year.

he imitated a dead white woman? How did he do that?

/can't believe nobody else said it yet

Merlin Macuser: CapitolG: EsteeFlwrPot: I told her it was because he made Thriller

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.

Actually, John Landis made Thriller. Q simply produced the music/LP.

A producer has a lot to do with drawing out the artist's "voice." I don't know who got the songwriting credits for Thriller, but the songwriting is not what made it sell a brazilian copies. It was the MJ's performance/persona.

Also, I prefer Off The Wall, but I like disco.

If my coach had told me that then my end zone celebration would be me grabbing a cheer leader and heading for the locker room

well since the green light gods still don't smile upon me, I present for your viewing pleasure Kung-Fu fists of plastic .. smooth criminal.

click-pops. (new window)

foo monkey: I think we'll see a lot of moonwalking in NFL endzones this year.

I doubt even MJ could moonwalk on grass in 7-stud cleats.

PfizerX: MICHAEL JACKSON DIED?!

I bet they'll try to trll us Ronald Reagan is dead too.

NorCalLos: A producer has a lot to do with drawing out the artist's "voice."

And thats why I say that Thriller and off the wall are QJ albums.. Because I feel that they were like they were because of QJ.... the thriller video was just a video(ground breaking but still just a video)

NorCalLos: I prefer Off The Wall, but I like disco
Guilty.... well on the disco part

can we all get back to the topic at hand? MOOOAAAARRR boobies!!

Michael Jackson Here to show you my new Charlie's Angels tv show!! It has everything, even Kung Fu! We're even having a multi-million dollar contest for viewers- in fact, you may already be a winner!


Did I miss anyone?

Wait, wait, wait....

They play football in Canada? And people watch it?

Does anyone actually remember the first time they heard Thriller? I remember we had the video recorded on VHS when I was a kid and I used to watch it atleast once a week. I remember being amazed by it as a kid, it was like "A Nightmare On Elm Street" set to music that was wicked awesome.

NorCalLos: Merlin Macuser: CapitolG: EsteeFlwrPot: I told her it was because he made Thriller

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.

Actually, John Landis made Thriller. Q simply produced the music/LP.

A producer has a lot to do with drawing out the artist's "voice." I don't know who got the songwriting credits for Thriller, but the songwriting is not what made it sell a brazilian copies. It was the MJ's performance/persona.

Also, I prefer Off The Wall, but I like disco.

Quincy Jones also produced Bad and Of The Wall and never really produced anything else of merit. He also has zero songwriting credits on any of those albums. Michael Jackson and Rod Temperton were the primary songwriters for the majority of these 3 albums. I know producers have a lot to do with shaping the sound of the music, but to say that Quincy made MJ is kind of ridiculous. If he was such an awesome producer why weren't people lined up waiting to throw bags of cash at him to produce their albums??

I was watching that game. I thought at the time that it was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen a pro athlete do.

/luv the CFL
//Hamilton needs a QB

PfizerX Quote 2009-07-02 02:36:50 PM
MICHAEL JACKSON DIED?!

The point guard from the 1984 Georgetown national champion basketball team?

I watched the UVa Pep Band re-enact the Death of Elvis when the Hoos played the Tennessee Inbreds in the Sugar Bowl. Complete with Elvis being chased across the field by a guy with a shotgun.

/they didn't get in trouble for that
//one of the very few things they didn't get in trouble for
///this was BC (Before Castration, i.e. pre-2003)

The CFL should be capitalizing on this PR, not punishing it.

My suggestion? The next time Montreal QB Anthony Calvillo scores a TD, he should tear off his jersey, then pull a bottle of Mighty Mendit™ out of his sock and repair it.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

devilskware: NorCalLos: Merlin Macuser: CapitolG: EsteeFlwrPot: I told her it was because he made Thriller

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.

Actually, John Landis made Thriller. Q simply produced the music/LP.

A producer has a lot to do with drawing out the artist's "voice." I don't know who got the songwriting credits for Thriller, but the songwriting is not what made it sell a brazilian copies. It was the MJ's performance/persona.

Also, I prefer Off The Wall, but I like disco.

Quincy Jones also produced Bad and Of The Wall and never really produced anything else of merit. He also has zero songwriting credits on any of those albums. Michael Jackson and Rod Temperton were the primary songwriters for the majority of these 3 albums. I know producers have a lot to do with shaping the sound of the music, but to say that Quincy made MJ is kind of ridiculous. If he was such an awesome producer why weren't people lined up waiting to throw bags of cash at him to produce their albums??

Are you f-ing serious?? How old are you??

The all-time most nominated Grammy artist, with a total of 76 nominations and 26 awards, Quincy Jones has also received an Emmy Award, seven Oscar nominations, and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award. His life and career were chronicled in 1990 in the critically acclaimed Warner Bros. film Listen Up: The Lives of Quincy Jones. In 2001, he published Q: The Autobiography of Quincy Jones.

OH, SNAP!

My old voice coach was signed to Q Records, auditioned for Q personally. This is the single from the album. It was a hit on modern rock radio locally, not sure how it did outside Sacramento:

Link (new window)

Treygreen13: In before "canadian football is so much better than the NFL".

Has that ever been said by anyone?

GanjSmokr: Treygreen13: In before "canadian football is so much better than the NFL".

Has that ever been said by anyone?

This guy...

Pretending to be dead qualifies as pretending to be "a dead Michael Jackson"? Does that attention whore have the farking market on death now?

zabadu: devilskware: NorCalLos: Merlin Macuser: CapitolG: EsteeFlwrPot: I told her it was because he made Thriller

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.

Actually, John Landis made Thriller. Q simply produced the music/LP.

A producer has a lot to do with drawing out the artist's "voice." I don't know who got the songwriting credits for Thriller, but the songwriting is not what made it sell a brazilian copies. It was the MJ's performance/persona.

Also, I prefer Off The Wall, but I like disco.

Quincy Jones also produced Bad and Of The Wall and never really produced anything else of merit. He also has zero songwriting credits on any of those albums. Michael Jackson and Rod Temperton were the primary songwriters for the majority of these 3 albums. I know producers have a lot to do with shaping the sound of the music, but to say that Quincy made MJ is kind of ridiculous. If he was such an awesome producer why weren't people lined up waiting to throw bags of cash at him to produce their albums??

Are you f-ing serious?? How old are you??

The all-time most nominated Grammy artist, with a total of 76 nominations and 26 awards, Quincy Jones has also received an Emmy Award, seven Oscar nominations, and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award. His life and career were chronicled in 1990 in the critically acclaimed Warner Bros. film Listen Up: The Lives of Quincy Jones. In 2001, he published Q: The Autobiography of Quincy Jones.


I'm 31 .... I know what Q.Jones has accomplished. I'm talking about his production credits. He did produce some great jazz and swing and whatnot back in the day, but really, how tough could production be for a 60's jazz crooner album? Name another artist that Q.Jones produced and tell me if you think that person's success is because of Q. Jones' production skills. Also, he loses major points for producing "We Are The World", as does MJ and anyone else involved in that crap.

GanjSmokr: Treygreen13: In before "canadian football is so much better than the NFL".

Has that ever been said by anyone?

They said it in my town when we had a CFL team. Something about Doug Flutie and the field being wider or longer which allowed for more passing.

I'm just sayin ... CapitolG said Q. Jones made Thriller and I disagree. He was part of it, sure, but he didn't singlehandedly concoct it, nor did he write any songs.

The CFL is more exciting to watch than the NFL. I only get interested in the NFL because I'm in three or four pools.

They should install high-pressure water cannons at both ends of the field. When the players start showboating like that, fans get to feed a buck into the gun and take a shot at the moron.

/might actually start watching if they did that.
//landmines on the field would be better.

devilskware: zabadu: devilskware: NorCalLos: Merlin Macuser: CapitolG: EsteeFlwrPot: I told her it was because he made Thriller

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.

Actually, John Landis made Thriller. Q simply produced the music/LP.

A producer has a lot to do with drawing out the artist's "voice." I don't know who got the songwriting credits for Thriller, but the songwriting is not what made it sell a brazilian copies. It was the MJ's performance/persona.

Also, I prefer Off The Wall, but I like disco.

Quincy Jones also produced Bad and Of The Wall and never really produced anything else of merit. He also has zero songwriting credits on any of those albums. Michael Jackson and Rod Temperton were the primary songwriters for the majority of these 3 albums. I know producers have a lot to do with shaping the sound of the music, but to say that Quincy made MJ is kind of ridiculous. If he was such an awesome producer why weren't people lined up waiting to throw bags of cash at him to produce their albums??

Are you f-ing serious?? How old are you??

The all-time most nominated Grammy artist, with a total of 76 nominations and 26 awards, Quincy Jones has also received an Emmy Award, seven Oscar nominations, and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award. His life and career were chronicled in 1990 in the critically acclaimed Warner Bros. film Listen Up: The Lives of Quincy Jones. In 2001, he published Q: The Autobiography of Quincy Jones.


I'm 31 .... I know what Q.Jones has accomplished. I'm talking about his production credits. He did produce some great jazz and swing and whatnot back in the day, but really, how tough could production be for a 60's jazz crooner album? Name another artist that Q.Jones produced and tell me if you think that person's success is because of Q. Jones' production skills. Also, he loses major points for producing "We Are The World", as does MJ and anyone else involved in that crap.

Wow - you are seriously stupid and know zip about music.

Jones has produced Dinah Washington, Sarah Vaughan, Andy Williams, Ray Charles, Peggy Lee, Ella Fitzgerald, Count Basie, Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr., Chaka Khan, Lena Horne, George Benson, and Donna Summer, all produced from 1956 to 1987.

He won Grammy's for his "jazz crooner" albums in 1963, 1980, 1981, 1989, 1991, and 1995. He won for POP or R&B in 1963, 1971. 1973, 1978, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1989, and 2001.

If he hasn't produced a current album, it's because he's scoring movies right now. He also builds homes for Mandela's foundation, launched the WAF project for poor children among other things.

If you think Michael did any of his stuff without substantially experienced help, you are woefully mistaken.

GREAT! Now I can imitate Elvis AND Michael Jackson --at the same time!!!

/lays on floor, eyes closed, hands folded on chest.

You ought to see me imitate Karl Malden, Billy Mays, and Ed McMahon!

/holds up handbasket --when we leavin'?

devilskware: I'm just sayin ... CapitolG said Q. Jones made Thriller and I disagree. He was part of it, sure, but he didn't singlehandedly concoct it, nor did he write any songs.

According to the credits, MJ had LOADS of help with the Thriller album:

Credits
Howard Hewett (Vocals (Background)), James Ingram (Arranger), James Ingram (Keyboards), James Ingram (Vocals (Background)), James Ingram (Handclapping), James Ingram (Portasound), Janet Jackson (Vocals), Janet Jackson (Vocals (Background)), Michael Jackson (Guitar), Michael Jackson (Arranger), Michael Jackson (Drums), Michael Jackson (Sound Effects), Michael Jackson (Vocals), Michael Jackson (Vocals (Background)), Michael Jackson (Handclapping), Michael Jackson (Producer), Michael Jackson (Main Performer), Michael Jackson (Vocal Arrangement), Michael Jackson (Horn Arrangements), Michael Jackson (Rhythm Arrangements), Michael Jackson (Synthesizer Arrangements), Michael Jackson (Stomp Board), Paul McCartney (Vocals), Paul McCartney (Performer), Paul McCartney (Guest Appearance), Quincy Jones (Arranger), Quincy Jones (Producer), Quincy Jones (Vocal Arrangement), Quincy Jones (Rhythm Arrangements), Jeremy Lubbock (Conductor), Bill Reichenbach Jr. (Trombone), Bill Wolfer (Synthesizer), Bill Wolfer (Keyboards), Bill Wolfer (Programming), David Foster (Synthesizer), David Foster (Synthesizer Arrangements), LaToya Jackson (Vocals), LaToya Jackson (Vocals (Background)), Vincent Price (Vocals), Vincent Price (Rap), Vincent Price (Guest Appearance), Bunny Hull (Vocals), Bunny Hull (Vocals (Background)), Tom Bahler (Keyboards), Tom Bahler (Synclavier), Brian Banks (Synthesizer), Brian Banks (Programming), Brian Banks (Producer), Brian Banks (Synthesizer Programming), Steve Bates (Assistant Engineer), Michael Boddicker (Synthesizer), Michael Boddicker (Keyboards), Michael Boddicker (Emulator), Michael Boddicker (Vocoder), Leon "Ndugu" Chancler (Drums), Paulinho Da Costa (Percussion), Mark Ettel (Assistant Engineer), Matt Forger (Engineer), Matt Forger (Technical Engineer), Humberto Gatica (Engineer), Gary Grant (Trumpet), Gary Grant (Flugelhorn), Bernie Grundman (Mastering), Nelson Hayes (Sound Effects), Nelson Hayes (Stomp Board), Jerry Hey (Trumpet), Jerry Hey (Arranger), Jerry Hey (Conductor), Jerry Hey (Flugelhorn), Jerry Hey (Horn Arrangements), Jerry Hey (String Arrangements), Paul Jackson, Jr. (Guitar), Louis Johnson (Bass), Louis Johnson (Bass (Electric)), Louis Johnson (Guitar (Bass)), Louis Johnson (Handclapping), Donn Landee (Engineer), Becky Lopez (Vocals), Becky Lopez (Vocals (Background)), Steve Lukather (Guitar), Steve Lukather (Arranger), Steve Lukather (Bass (Electric)), Anthony Marinelli (Programming), Anthony Marinelli (Synthesizer Programming), David Paich (Synthesizer), David Paich (Piano), David Paich (Arranger), David Paich (Keyboards), David Paich (Rhythm Arrangements), David Paich (Synthesizer Arrangements), Jeff Porcaro (Drums), Dean Parks (Guitar), Greg Phillinganes (Synthesizer), Greg Phillinganes (Keyboards), Greg Phillinganes (Programming), Greg Phillinganes (Handclapping), Greg Phillinganes (Fender Rhodes), Steve Porcaro (Synthesizer), Steve Porcaro (Arranger), Steve Porcaro (Programming), Steve Porcaro (Synthesizer Programming), Steven Ray (Sound Effects), Steven Ray (Handclapping), Julia Tillman Waters (Vocals), Greg "Frosty" Smith (?), Greg Smith (Synthesizer), Greg Smith (Keyboards), Bruce Swedien (Sound Effects), Bruce Swedien (Engineer), Bruce Swedien (Mixing), Bruce Swedien (Effects), Rod Temperton (Synthesizer), Rod Temperton (Arranger), Rod Temperton (Vocal Arrangement), Rod Temperton (Rhythm Arrangements), Rod Temperton (Synthesizer Arrangements), Eddie Van Halen (Guitar), Eddie Van Halen (Soloist), Gerald Vinci (Concert Master), Maxine Willard Waters (Vocals), Maxine Willard Waters (Vocals (Background)), Oren Waters (Vocals), Oren Waters (Vocals (Background)), Howard Wewett (Vocals), Larry William (Flute), Larry William (Saxophone), David Williams (Guitar), Larry Williams (Flute), Larry Williams (Saxophone), Larry Williams (Wind), Dick Zimmerman (Photography), Waters, Julia (Vocals (Background)), Larry Williams (Flute), Larry Williams (Saxophone), David Williams (Guitar), Mac James (Lettering), Gregg Jampol (Assistant Engineer), Bruce Cannon (Sound Effects), Bruce Cannon (Effects), David E. Williams (Guitar), Stephen Saper (Engineer), Valadé (Stylist)

40below: Here's the video of his end-zone celebration. (new window)

well did he make the damn kick or not?

As much as I am a "act like you've been there" type I give him props for being topical.

Well no shiat a-hole!! I know Michael didn't do the lettering, engineering, styling, sound effects, handclapping, or flute. I know that he isn't Paul McCartney, who's listed in those credits as "guest appearance". I know he didn't do female background vocals. I'm not sayin Quincy Jones sucks. I was responding to someone saying Quincy Jones made Michael Jackson and Thriller what it is, which I don't think gives enough credit to Michael Jackson. Also are you telling me Michael didn't play the guitar solo on "Beat It" under the alias Eddie Van Halen??

zabadu: devilskware: I'm just sayin ... CapitolG said Q. Jones made Thriller and I disagree. He was part of it, sure, but he didn't singlehandedly concoct it, nor did he write any songs.

According to the credits, MJ had LOADS of help with the Thriller album:

Credits
Howard Hewett (Vocals (Background)), James Ingram (Arranger), James Ingram (Keyboards), James Ingram (Vocals (Background)), James Ingram (Handclapping), James Ingram (Portasound), Janet Jackson (Vocals), Janet Jackson (Vocals (Background)), Michael Jackson (Guitar), Michael Jackson (Arranger), Michael Jackson (Drums), Michael Jackson (Sound Effects), Michael Jackson (Vocals), Michael Jackson (Vocals (Background)), Michael Jackson (Handclapping), Michael Jackson (Producer), Michael Jackson (Main Performer), Michael Jackson (Vocal Arrangement), Michael Jackson (Horn Arrangements), Michael Jackson (Rhythm Arrangements), Michael Jackson (Synthesizer Arrangements), Michael Jackson (Stomp Board), Paul McCartney (Vocals), Paul McCartney (Performer), Paul McCartney (Guest Appearance), Quincy Jones (Arranger), Quincy Jones (Producer), Quincy Jones (Vocal Arrangement), Quincy Jones (Rhythm Arrangements), Jeremy Lubbock (Conductor), Bill Reichenbach Jr. (Trombone), Bill Wolfer (Synthesizer), Bill Wolfer (Keyboards), Bill Wolfer (Programming), David Foster (Synthesizer), David Foster (Synthesizer Arrangements), LaToya Jackson (Vocals), LaToya Jackson (Vocals (Background)), Vincent Price (Vocals), Vincent Price (Rap), Vincent Price (Guest Appearance), Bunny Hull (Vocals), Bunny Hull (Vocals (Background)), Tom Bahler (Keyboards), Tom Bahler (Synclavier), Brian Banks (Synthesizer), Brian Banks (Programming), Brian Banks (Producer), Brian Banks (Synthesizer Programming), Steve Bates (Assistant Engineer), Michael Boddicker (Synthesizer), Michael Boddicker (Keyboards), Michael Boddicker (Emulator), Michael Boddicker (Vocoder), Leon "Ndugu" Chancler (Drums), Paulinho Da Costa (Percussion), Mark Ettel (Assistant Engineer), Matt Forger (Engineer), Matt Forger (Technical Engineer), Humberto Gatica (Engineer), Gary Grant (Trumpet), Gary Grant (Flugelhorn), Bernie Grundman (Mastering), Nelson Hayes (Sound Effects), Nelson Hayes (Stomp Board), Jerry Hey (Trumpet), Jerry Hey (Arranger), Jerry Hey (Conductor), Jerry Hey (Flugelhorn), Jerry Hey (Horn Arrangements), Jerry Hey (String Arrangements), Paul Jackson, Jr. (Guitar), Louis Johnson (Bass), Louis Johnson (Bass (Electric)), Louis Johnson (Guitar (Bass)), Louis Johnson (Handclapping), Donn Landee (Engineer), Becky Lopez (Vocals), Becky Lopez (Vocals (Background)), Steve Lukather (Guitar), Steve Lukather (Arranger), Steve Lukather (Bass (Electric)), Anthony Marinelli (Programming), Anthony Marinelli (Synthesizer Programming), David Paich (Synthesizer), David Paich (Piano), David Paich (Arranger), David Paich (Keyboards), David Paich (Rhythm Arrangements), David Paich (Synthesizer Arrangements), Jeff Porcaro (Drums), Dean Parks (Guitar), Greg Phillinganes (Synthesizer), Greg Phillinganes (Keyboards), Greg Phillinganes (Programming), Greg Phillinganes (Handclapping), Greg Phillinganes (Fender Rhodes), Steve Porcaro (Synthesizer), Steve Porcaro (Arranger), Steve Porcaro (Programming), Steve Porcaro (Synthesizer Programming), Steven Ray (Sound Effects), Steven Ray (Handclapping), Julia Tillman Waters (Vocals), Greg "Frosty" Smith (?), Greg Smith (Synthesizer), Greg Smith (Keyboards), Bruce Swedien (Sound Effects), Bruce Swedien (Engineer), Bruce Swedien (Mixing), Bruce Swedien (Effects), Rod Temperton (Synthesizer), Rod Temperton (Arranger), Rod Temperton (Vocal Arrangement), Rod Temperton (Rhythm Arrangements), Rod Temperton (Synthesizer Arrangements), Eddie Van Halen (Guitar), Eddie Van Halen (Soloist), Gerald Vinci (Concert Master), Maxine Willard Waters (Vocals), Maxine Willard Waters (Vocals (Background)), Oren Waters (Vocals), Oren Waters (Vocals (Background)), Howard Wewett (Vocals), Larry William (Flute), Larry William (Saxophone), David Williams (Guitar), Larry Williams (Flute), Larry Williams (Saxophone), Larry Williams (Wind), Dick ...


Can we just say they both had an important part in the album and maybe you can stop being a dick and telling me I know nothing about music??

And hey, whaddya know!! Michael was a handclapper!!

devilskware: zabadu: devilskware: I'm just sayin ... CapitolG said Q. Jones made Thriller and I disagree. He was part of it, sure, but he didn't singlehandedly concoct it, nor did he write any songs.

According to the credits, MJ had LOADS of help with the Thriller album:

Credits
Howard Hewett (Vocals (Background)), James Ingram (Arranger), James Ingram (Keyboards), James Ingram (Vocals (Background)), James Ingram (Handclapping), James Ingram (Portasound), Janet Jackson (Vocals), Janet Jackson (Vocals (Background)), Michael Jackson (Guitar), Michael Jackson (Arranger), Michael Jackson (Drums), Michael Jackson (Sound Effects), Michael Jackson (Vocals), Michael Jackson (Vocals (Background)), Michael Jackson (Handclapping), Michael Jackson (Producer), Michael Jackson (Main Performer), Michael Jackson (Vocal Arrangement), Michael Jackson (Horn Arrangements), Michael Jackson (Rhythm Arrangements), Michael Jackson (Synthesizer Arrangements), Michael Jackson (Stomp Board), Paul McCartney (Vocals), Paul McCartney (Performer), Paul McCartney (Guest Appearance), Quincy Jones (Arranger), Quincy Jones (Producer), Quincy Jones (Vocal Arrangement), Quincy Jones (Rhythm Arrangements), Jeremy Lubbock (Conductor), Bill Reichenbach Jr. (Trombone), Bill Wolfer (Synthesizer), Bill Wolfer (Keyboards), Bill Wolfer (Programming), David Foster (Synthesizer), David Foster (Synthesizer Arrangements), LaToya Jackson (Vocals), LaToya Jackson (Vocals (Background)), Vincent Price (Vocals), Vincent Price (Rap), Vincent Price (Guest Appearance), Bunny Hull (Vocals), Bunny Hull (Vocals (Background)), Tom Bahler (Keyboards), Tom Bahler (Synclavier), Brian Banks (Synthesizer), Brian Banks (Programming), Brian Banks (Producer), Brian Banks (Synthesizer Programming), Steve Bates (Assistant Engineer), Michael Boddicker (Synthesizer), Michael Boddicker (Keyboards), Michael Boddicker (Emulator), Michael Boddicker (Vocoder), Leon "Ndugu" Chancler (Drums), Paulinho Da Costa (Percussion), Mark Ettel (Assistant Engineer), Matt Forger (Engineer), Matt Forger (Technical Engineer), Humberto Gatica (Engineer), Gary Grant (Trumpet), Gary Grant (Flugelhorn), Bernie Grundman (Mastering), Nelson Hayes (Sound Effects), Nelson Hayes (Stomp Board), Jerry Hey (Trumpet), Jerry Hey (Arranger), Jerry Hey (Conductor), Jerry Hey (Flugelhorn), Jerry Hey (Horn Arrangements), Jerry Hey (String Arrangements), Paul Jackson, Jr. (Guitar), Louis Johnson (Bass), Louis Johnson (Bass (Electric)), Louis Johnson (Guitar (Bass)), Louis Johnson (Handclapping), Donn Landee (Engineer), Becky Lopez (Vocals), Becky Lopez (Vocals (Background)), Steve Lukather (Guitar), Steve Lukather (Arranger), Steve Lukather (Bass (Electric)), Anthony Marinelli (Programming), Anthony Marinelli (Synthesizer Programming), David Paich (Synthesizer), David Paich (Piano), David Paich (Arranger), David Paich (Keyboards), David Paich (Rhythm Arrangements), David Paich (Synthesizer Arrangements), Jeff Porcaro (Drums), Dean Parks (Guitar), Greg Phillinganes (Synthesizer), Greg Phillinganes (Keyboards), Greg Phillinganes (Programming), Greg Phillinganes (Handclapping), Greg Phillinganes (Fender Rhodes), Steve Porcaro (Synthesizer), Steve Porcaro (Arranger), Steve Porcaro (Programming), Steve Porcaro (Synthesizer Programming), Steven Ray (Sound Effects), Steven Ray (Handclapping), Julia Tillman Waters (Vocals), Greg "Frosty" Smith (?), Greg Smith (Synthesizer), Greg Smith (Keyboards), Bruce Swedien (Sound Effects), Bruce Swedien (Engineer), Bruce Swedien (Mixing), Bruce Swedien (Effects), Rod Temperton (Synthesizer), Rod Temperton (Arranger), Rod Temperton (Vocal Arrangement), Rod Temperton (Rhythm Arrangements), Rod Temperton (Synthesizer Arrangements), Eddie Van Halen (Guitar), Eddie Van Halen (Soloist), Gerald Vinci (Concert Master), Maxine Willard Waters (Vocals), Maxine Willard Waters (Vocals (Background)), Oren Waters (Vocals), Oren Waters (Vocals (Background)), Howard Wewett (Vocals), Larry William (Flute), Larry William (Saxophone), David Williams (Guitar), Larry Williams (Flute), Larry Williams (Saxophone), Larry Williams (Win ...

YOU were the one saying Quincy Jones had just a minor role in producing this album and had done nothing since.

Sorry you took offense to being shown FACTS.

Only in, uh, Canada?

GanjSmokr: Treygreen13: In before "canadian football is so much better than the NFL".

Has that ever been said by anyone?

http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4481659
Enjoy the thread.

Michael Jackson (Handclapping),

I always thought that slapping sound was MJs scrot slapping Webster's scrot.

meh. why does anyone care about Michael Jackson? He and Madonna (here's hoping) are the two most overrated "artists" of all time. All he made was a disco album and some shiatty pop/r&b teenie bopper crap.

Frankly, I find Billy Mays' passing to be sadder.

/Farrah who?

zabadu: Sorry you took offense to being shown FACTS

Ha, I leave for a hour and this is what I come back to......

Thanks for sticking up for QJ a farking unsung hero of pop music.

devilskware, you are allowed to think whatever you want, sad you could not do it in a less inflamatory way.

ZABADU I never said Jones had a minor role in this album anywhere in my posts. I was initially responding, again, to CapitolG, who claimed Jones was the main reason for the success of Thriller.

Here's his original quote:

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.


Sorry, Zabadu, if I diminished Quincy JOnes' involvement in Jackson's albums. And, CapitolG, I have no idea why Thriller sold over 100 million, but Off The Wall and Bad (produced by Quincy Jones) each sold 20 - 30 million and Dangerous has sold 30 million as well. Then of course Michael turned into a weirdo and got accused of child molestation. At that point 100 Quincy Jones' wouldn't have helped him revive his carer.

CapitolG: zabadu: Sorry you took offense to being shown FACTS

Ha, I leave for a hour and this is what I come back to......

Thanks for sticking up for QJ a farking unsung hero of pop music.

devilskware, you are allowed to think whatever you want, sad you could not do it in a less inflamatory way.

It didn't start out inflammatory, or didn't mean to at least. I think we can all agree Jackson and Jones made two great albums and one pretty good album together.

mloree: meh. why does anyone care about Michael Jackson? He and Madonna (here's hoping) are the two most overrated "artists" of all time. All he made was a disco album and some shiatty pop/r&b teenie bopper crap.

Frankly, I find Billy Mays' passing to be sadder.

/Farrah who?

Well at least when you buy Michael Jackson's albums you know they will actually PLAY. Mighty Putty my ASS.

devilskware: ZABADU I never said Jones had a minor role in this album anywhere in my posts. I was initially responding, again, to CapitolG, who claimed Jones was the main reason for the success of Thriller.

Here's his original quote:

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.


Sorry, Zabadu, if I diminished Quincy JOnes' involvement in Jackson's albums. And, CapitolG, I have no idea why Thriller sold over 100 million, but Off The Wall and Bad (produced by Quincy Jones) each sold 20 - 30 million and Dangerous has sold 30 million as well. Then of course Michael turned into a weirdo and got accused of child molestation. At that point 100 Quincy Jones' wouldn't have helped him revive his carer.

Here's your original quote:


Quincy Jones also produced Bad and Of The Wall and never really produced anything else of merit. He also has zero songwriting credits on any of those albums. Michael Jackson and Rod Temperton were the primary songwriters for the majority of these 3 albums. I know producers have a lot to do with shaping the sound of the music, but to say that Quincy made MJ is kind of ridiculous. If he was such an awesome producer why weren't people lined up waiting to throw bags of cash at him to produce their albums??

Not inflammatory?

Butterfinger: I thought he was doing an immitation of T.O.'s career.

i like you.

Norad: Think what the NFL would do to this clown for stripping off his gear in an end-zone 'celebration'.

NFL almost suspended randy moss for faking a "moon"

zabadu: devilskware: ZABADU I never said Jones had a minor role in this album anywhere in my posts. I was initially responding, again, to CapitolG, who claimed Jones was the main reason for the success of Thriller.

Here's his original quote:

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.


Sorry, Zabadu, if I diminished Quincy JOnes' involvement in Jackson's albums. And, CapitolG, I have no idea why Thriller sold over 100 million, but Off The Wall and Bad (produced by Quincy Jones) each sold 20 - 30 million and Dangerous has sold 30 million as well. Then of course Michael turned into a weirdo and got accused of child molestation. At that point 100 Quincy Jones' wouldn't have helped him revive his carer.

Here's your original quote:


Quincy Jones also produced Bad and Of The Wall and never really produced anything else of merit. He also has zero songwriting credits on any of those albums. Michael Jackson and Rod Temperton were the primary songwriters for the majority of these 3 albums. I know producers have a lot to do with shaping the sound of the music, but to say that Quincy made MJ is kind of ridiculous. If he was such an awesome producer why weren't people lined up waiting to throw bags of cash at him to produce their albums??

Not inflammatory?

Dude, you're gettin things all retarded. CapitolG said I was inflammatory. You said that I said Jones had a minor role in Thriller, which I did not. Anyways, I acknowledge that Jones has produced some Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. albums that are probably great if you like that stuff.. I don't think he's regarded as a legendary producer, not counting Thriller. Again QJ fan club, he's a great and accomplished guy. I particularly enjoyed him in that Dr.Pepper commercial with that black boy band B2K.

devilskware: Mighty Putty my ASS.

Even Optimus Prime can not pull this shat appat!

Pure funny

devilskware: zabadu: devilskware: ZABADU I never said Jones had a minor role in this album anywhere in my posts. I was initially responding, again, to CapitolG, who claimed Jones was the main reason for the success of Thriller.

Here's his original quote:

I dug on some old MJ, but in all reality, Quincy Jones made Thriller.. I know lots of folks will disagree with me, but then explain why the albums that QJ produced did so well, and the others did good but not QJ good.


Sorry, Zabadu, if I diminished Quincy JOnes' involvement in Jackson's albums. And, CapitolG, I have no idea why Thriller sold over 100 million, but Off The Wall and Bad (produced by Quincy Jones) each sold 20 - 30 million and Dangerous has sold 30 million as well. Then of course Michael turned into a weirdo and got accused of child molestation. At that point 100 Quincy Jones' wouldn't have helped him revive his carer.

Here's your original quote:


Quincy Jones also produced Bad and Of The Wall and never really produced anything else of merit. He also has zero songwriting credits on any of those albums. Michael Jackson and Rod Temperton were the primary songwriters for the majority of these 3 albums. I know producers have a lot to do with shaping the sound of the music, but to say that Quincy made MJ is kind of ridiculous. If he was such an awesome producer why weren't people lined up waiting to throw bags of cash at him to produce their albums??

Not inflammatory?

Dude, you're gettin things all retarded. CapitolG said I was inflammatory. You said that I said Jones had a minor role in Thriller, which I did not. Anyways, I acknowledge that Jones has produced some Sinatra and Sammy Davis Jr. albums that are probably great if you like that stuff.. I don't think he's regarded as a legendary producer, not counting Thriller. Again QJ fan club, he's a great and accomplished guy. I particularly enjoyed him in that Dr.Pepper commercial with that black boy band B2K.

Jesus, you just dig yourself further and further. Seriously, shut up already.

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Yea, and here's a line from the first paragraph from his Wiki page ...

He is best known as the producer of the album Thriller, by pop icon Michael Jackson

I don't think many people could tell you off the top of their heads what else he produced. "Oh Quincy JOnes?? He did the E.T. soundtrack, DUH!!" Again, he's legendary in the music biz for a variety of deserved reasons. I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums. Doesn't mean he's not a good producer. Maybe he doesn't like producing. It's kind of a pain in the butt.

Why are there these idiots in Canada that feel they have to deride the CFL in order to proclaim their love of the NFL.

The NFL obviously gets the better talent and puts out one hell of a product, but the CFL is still great football.

Here I'll try to be one of you folks " I hate Canadian beer, I only drink Bud it has awesome commercials with hot ladies and shiny lights."

To be fair, the CFL zealots are just as bad.

devilskware: Yea, and here's a line from the first paragraph from his Wiki page ...

He is best known as the producer of the album Thriller, by pop icon Michael Jackson

I don't think many people could tell you off the top of their heads what else he produced. "Oh Quincy JOnes?? He did the E.T. soundtrack, DUH!!" Again, he's legendary in the music biz for a variety of deserved reasons. I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums. Doesn't mean he's not a good producer. Maybe he doesn't like producing. It's kind of a pain in the butt.

Again, you're just an idiot. Now you're getting into semantics - "gee, I just meant production!!" Again, refer to the list of albums he produced before and after Michael Jackson. Just because you feel there are no artists other than Jackson doesn't mean that others feel the same way.

You don't get to be the all-time most nominated Grammy artist, with a total of 76 nominations and 26 awards, an Emmy Award, seven Oscar nominations, and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award by not being a good producer.

Just stop now. You're really making yourself look stupid.

Zach's cell phone: Here I'll try to be one of you folks " I hate Canadian beer, I only drink Bud it has awesome commercials with hot ladies and shiny lights."



/hlinked

devilskware: I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums.

Are you trolling or just that vapid?

devilskware: Yea, and here's a line from the first paragraph from his Wiki page ...

He is best known as the producer of the album Thriller, by pop icon Michael Jackson

I don't think many people could tell you off the top of their heads what else he produced. "Oh Quincy JOnes?? He did the E.T. soundtrack, DUH!!" Again, he's legendary in the music biz for a variety of deserved reasons. I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums. Doesn't mean he's not a good producer. Maybe he doesn't like producing. It's kind of a pain in the butt.

Also, how many producers can you actually name yourself off the top of your head? Huh?

If people don't know that he produced Dinah Washington, Sarah Vaughan, Andy Williams, Ray Charles, Peggy Lee, Ella Fitzgerald, Count Basie, Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr., Chaka Khan, Lena Horne, George Benson, and Donna Summer, well then, they are seriously misinformed.

solyhhit: devilskware: I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums.

Are you trolling or just that vapid?

I think he's trolling now. No one is that stupid.

Jesus Christ, just say that you were wrong and suck eachother off already!

solyhhit: Zach's cell phone: Here I'll try to be one of you folks " I hate Canadian beer, I only drink Bud it has awesome commercials with hot ladies and shiny lights."



/hlinked

Ummmm because I like bud.

zabadu: devilskware: Yea, and here's a line from the first paragraph from his Wiki page ...

He is best known as the producer of the album Thriller, by pop icon Michael Jackson

I don't think many people could tell you off the top of their heads what else he produced. "Oh Quincy JOnes?? He did the E.T. soundtrack, DUH!!" Again, he's legendary in the music biz for a variety of deserved reasons. I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums. Doesn't mean he's not a good producer. Maybe he doesn't like producing. It's kind of a pain in the butt.

Also, how many producers can you actually name yourself off the top of your head? Huh?

If people don't know that he produced Dinah Washington, Sarah Vaughan, Andy Williams, Ray Charles, Peggy Lee, Ella Fitzgerald, Count Basie, Frank Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr., Chaka Khan, Lena Horne, George Benson, and Donna Summer, well then, they are seriously misinformed.

Yes, he produced great artists who also stand on their own merits with our without Jones. He produced one of Dinah Washington's 21 albums, two of Sarah Vaughn's 40-something albums, one Andy Williams album, one Count Basie, 3 Sinatras, one each of Benson, Sammy, Horne CHaka Khan, Benson, and Donna Summer. He was not RENOWNED as a producer. It wasn't his primary skill in the music business. He was good at it, but his production skills did not transform stars or up-and-comers into superstars. He worked mostly with already well established artists. The majority of his Grammy nominations and awards were not for production. Note that I am not counting Executive Producer as an actual producer, because everyone knows they don't really do a whole lot of anything. AGain, I love the guy, I'm not trying to diminish his accomplishments. I am stating, once again, that CapitolG claimed that the success of Thriller had more to do with Quincy Jones than Michael Jackson. My initial argument was a little off base, but I tried to clarify it and tried find a neutral ground in the discussion but yall kept coming at me. I don't even think you read my subsequent posts.

As far as producers. I don't know. I can think of some. Colin Richardson and Andy Wallace are good. Rick Rubin has helped a lot of bands' careers. Mutt Lange did some classic albums. Frank Farian single handedly created Boney M and Milli Vanilli!! Personally, I admire Rudy Van Gelder, although technically not a producer.

ALso, I think it was pretty clear that I was strictly speaking of production through this entire thread. Especially since the topic, aside from Canadian football or whatever, is Quincy Jones and his impact on the production of the Thriller album. GO back and read again and you will see.

solyhhit: devilskware: I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums.

Are you trolling or just that vapid?


Again, he produced some one-off albums for some HUGE stars back before most of us were born, and back when these artists were releasing 2 albums a year, Sorry I'm not that impressed by his resume as a producer. I don't like that crap anyways. If we're talking 50's and 60's music, I'm more into the BlueNote stuff and the hard bop jazz. Fark Peggy Lee and Sammy Davis Jr.

I didn't know there were black people in Canada.

devilskware: solyhhit: devilskware: I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums.

Are you trolling or just that vapid?


Again, he produced some one-off albums for some HUGE stars back before most of us were born, and back when these artists were releasing 2 albums a year, Sorry I'm not that impressed by his resume as a producer. I don't like that crap anyways. If we're talking 50's and 60's music, I'm more into the BlueNote stuff and the hard bop jazz. Fark Peggy Lee and Sammy Davis Jr.

Well then, if you don't like "that crap", that's all that matters, right? Because there is no music except what YOU like, right?

People pick out producers to produce great records, not to make them stars. Most famous singers hand pick their producers because they know they will make them sound better. Hence, you pick one like Quincy Jones.

Just because you can't appreciate any music except what you like doesn't make you an expert on producing. Really, picking a producer because they invented Milli Vanili? You can't even compare the two. Frank Farian? They guy responsible for such legendary names as Boney M., Far Corporation, Meat Loaf, Milli Vanilli, Eruption, No Mercy, La Bouche, Le Click? Wow, great pick.

You must be gay too.

agoratrader: I didn't know there were black people in Canada.

They Import them to fill quotas.

Using the Lesbian Dentist Cartel of course.

Jackson, 50, known as the King of Pop, died last week.

WHAT??? Why did no one say anything about this???

The guy should have moonwalked, clutched his heart and fallen over.

zabadu: devilskware: solyhhit: devilskware: I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums.

Are you trolling or just that vapid?


Again, he produced some one-off albums for some HUGE stars back before most of us were born, and back when these artists were releasing 2 albums a year, Sorry I'm not that impressed by his resume as a producer. I don't like that crap anyways. If we're talking 50's and 60's music, I'm more into the BlueNote stuff and the hard bop jazz. Fark Peggy Lee and Sammy Davis Jr.

Well then, if you don't like "that crap", that's all that matters, right? Because there is no music except what YOU like, right?

People pick out producers to produce great records, not to make them stars. Most famous singers hand pick their producers because they know they will make them sound better. Hence, you pick one like Quincy Jones.

Just because you can't appreciate any music except what you like doesn't make you an expert on producing. Really, picking a producer because they invented Milli Vanili? You can't even compare the two. Frank Farian? They guy responsible for such legendary names as Boney M., Far Corporation, Meat Loaf, Milli Vanilli, Eruption, No Mercy, La Bouche, Le Click? Wow, great pick.

You must be gay too.

First of all, you took the term "that crap" out of context. Let's substitute "that type of music" instead. And yes, I understand what a great producers job is. My point is that Quincy Jones, for whatever reason, does not have a lengthy resume as a producer. The majority of his production credits were in the sixties, and they were sporadic. He's hardly produced anything in the past 30 years. Why, in 50 years, does he only have 25 or so production credits? Either he wasn't willing to produce or people weren't picking him. Maybe he was already rich and famous as a record exec and performer and he didn't feel like producing. Or maybe he wasn't regarded as a world class producer until he produced Thriller. Nevertheless, his main job and legacy is not as a producer, although according to Wiki he's "best known as the producer of Thriller". His other accomplishments far outweigh the production aspect of his resume. ANd again, the main reason this conversation started was because someone said he was, for the most part, largely responsible for the success of Thriller. What do you think??

Also, Frank Farian was a joke. Although I do give him credit for being a sleazeball and duping the public into making him millions.

And no, I'm straight, but I don't see how you concluded I was gay. ??

Let me also add that this is hilarious. This is the lengthiest discussion I've ever been involved in on Fark ... and it's about Quincy Jones ... in a Canadian Football thread!! WTF?!?!

devilskware: zabadu: devilskware: solyhhit: devilskware: I just don't think he's that well known or renowned for PRODUCTION outside of Jackson's albums.

Are you trolling or just that vapid?


Again, he produced some one-off albums for some HUGE stars back before most of us were born, and back when these artists were releasing 2 albums a year, Sorry I'm not that impressed by his resume as a producer. I don't like that crap anyways. If we're talking 50's and 60's music, I'm more into the BlueNote stuff and the hard bop jazz. Fark Peggy Lee and Sammy Davis Jr.

Well then, if you don't like "that crap", that's all that matters, right? Because there is no music except what YOU like, right?

People pick out producers to produce great records, not to make them stars. Most famous singers hand pick their producers because they know they will make them sound better. Hence, you pick one like Quincy Jones.

Just because you can't appreciate any music except what you like doesn't make you an expert on producing. Really, picking a producer because they invented Milli Vanili? You can't even compare the two. Frank Farian? They guy responsible for such legendary names as Boney M., Far Corporation, Meat Loaf, Milli Vanilli, Eruption, No Mercy, La Bouche, Le Click? Wow, great pick.

You must be gay too.

First of all, you took the term "that crap" out of context. Let's substitute "that type of music" instead. And yes, I understand what a great producers job is. My point is that Quincy Jones, for whatever reason, does not have a lengthy resume as a producer. The majority of his production credits were in the sixties, and they were sporadic. He's hardly produced anything in the past 30 years. Why, in 50 years, does he only have 25 or so production credits? Either he wasn't willing to produce or people weren't picking him. Maybe he was already rich and famous as a record exec and performer and he didn't feel like producing. Or maybe he wasn't regarded as a world class producer until he produced Thriller. Nevertheless, his main job and legacy is not as a producer, although according to Wiki he's "best known as the producer of Thriller". His other accomplishments far outweigh the production aspect of his resume. ANd again, the main reason this conversation started was because someone said he was, for the most part, largely responsible for the success of Thriller. What do you think??

Also, Frank Farian was a joke. Although I do give him credit for being a sleazeball and duping the public into making him millions.

And no, I'm straight, but I don't see how you concluded I was gay. ??

Jones was a producer from 1959 to 1991. 30 plus years don't count to you?

Jones moved on to MOVIES, which I stated before. And charities. He has more money than God, so why not?

And again, even if you sub'd "that crap" with "that music", you are still stating that because you don't like it, it isn't valid music.

The reason that Wiki, although not the best source for valid information, might say that Jones is "best known as the producer for Thriller" is because it is nice to be associated with the number one selling album of all time. So yeah, he's best known for that. Had it been a Frank Sinatra record, he would have been known for that. It just happened to be Thriller. How hard is that to understand?

It isn't the NUMBER of things you produce, it's the QUALITY of what you produce.

ANd again, the main reason this conversation started was because someone said he was, for the most part, largely responsible for the success of Thriller. What do you think??

richarizard: Wait, wait, wait....

They play football in Canada? And people watch it?

Football:Canada::

a) Golf:Scotland
b) Cricket:Pakistan
c) Hockey:United States
d) Soccer:Brazil

devilskware: ANd again, the main reason this conversation started was because someone said he was, for the most part, largely responsible for the success of Thriller. What do you think??

Considering the album released before QJ got involved charted at 101 on the Billboard charts, I'd say yeah, not only was Jones responsible for the success of Thriller, but also for the comeback of Michael Jackson.

Oh, and I still think you're an ill-informed idiot.

CapitolG: zabadu: How can anyone construe that as a Michael Jackson reference?

well maybe he told them.....


Either way, this is not the kind of super showboating that goes on in the US.

I know, in the US the showboating is so much better

devilskware: First of all, you took the term "that crap" out of context. Let's substitute "that type of music" instead. And yes, I understand what a great producers job is. My point is that Quincy Jones, for whatever reason, does not have a lengthy resume as a producer. The majority of his production credits were in the sixties, and they were sporadic. He's hardly produced anything in the past 30 years. Why, in 50 years, does he only have 25 or so production credits? Either he wasn't willing to produce or people weren't picking him. Maybe he was already rich and famous as a record exec and performer and he didn't feel like producing. Or maybe he wasn't regarded as a world class producer until he produced Thriller. Nevertheless, his main job and legacy is not as a producer, although according to Wiki he's "best known as the producer of Thriller". His other accomplishments far outweigh the production aspect of his resume. ANd again, the main reason this conversation started was because someone said he was, for the most part, largely responsible for the success of Thriller. What do you think??

Also, Frank Farian was a joke. Although I do give him credit for being a sleazeball and duping the public into making him millions.

And no, I'm straight, but I don't see how you concluded I was gay. ??

Felony stupid

agoratrader: I didn't know there were black people in Canada.

No there aren't any. The Underground Railroad tunnelled under Canada and went into the Soviet Union.

And that's where the term Black Russian came from.

Katalyst: What are Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett getting for Christmas?

Patrick Swayze.

um... I don't get it. is it a jab at the fact that Patrick Swayze is probably dying or something?

/ignorant.
//that's ignorant. I know.

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