zabadu: budsterr: How many millions of babies have been murdered since 1972 because liberals think it is their right to do so?

/wow I just pwned millions of liberals
//I think I have earned myself a sandwich

Zero. They aren't babies until they are born.

not to get into THAT discussion but I think most rational people have to admit that the moment of birth is not the beginning of humanity.

austerity101: zabadu: Please explain why some people say G-d instead of God.

Short answer: they're Jewish.

I understand the Jewish part. I don't understand the "eliminating the O" part.

budsterr: How many millions of babies have been murdered since 1972 because liberals think it is their right to do so?

/wow I just pwned millions of liberals
//I think I have earned myself a sandwich

If only there were a way to just murder the gay ones.

Galileo's Daughter: ricewater_stool: Adults are free to practice whatever religion they like and to refuse medical treatment of any kind if they like.

Children are not capable of making these decisions for themselves. If their parents are unwilling to get proper medical treatment for their child and the child dies, the parents should be convicted of child abuse and/or negligent homicide.

Depends on the child's age. The term mature minors (not sure if this is the correct legal term) or adolescents who are capable of explaining their beliefs to judges and laqwyers as well as to doctors.

Sorry, no. Unless emancipated, which takes oodles of time, maturity is usually 18 years of age (sometimes 21).

skinny-lil-b: zabadu: Oh great, now this has become an abortion thread.

Can there ever be a God questioning thread without abortion coming in and taking over? Because we all know, you can't mention God without condemning abortion.

NO. The radical pro-birth agenda machine will turn ANY discussion into an abortion debate. That's God's most important lesson, you know. He meant the first commmandment to read THOU SHALT BIRTH.

He meant "Thou Shalt Birth" but came up with "I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me." instead?
Old Yahweh must've been hitting the Jesus Juice pretty hard that day.

Arnold T Pants: Allowing someone to die of natural causes is the same as killing them? LOL. Wut? I'm not pro-life, but you're an idiot.

Well think about it this way. Let's say someone is having a heart attack right in front of you. The typical person would call 911 and try to help them. If you stand there and watch him die right in front of you, doing absolutely nothing to save him, just standing there, wouldn't you think you had a part to play in his death?

You can't just straight-compare the number of children who died because their parents forwent medical procedures to those who died of complications of medicine. There are certain factors that you have to take into consideration.

For example, you have to keep the ratio of people who practice each to the number of people who unintentionally died. While the number of children who died is relatively low, the number of people who would refuse their child insulin because God tells them to is very, very low.

274 children since 1974? OMG!

I guess that means we don't have to worry about 4,000+ children wo die EACH YEAR from medical errors.

budsterr: /wow I just pwned millions of liberals

and if by Pwned you mean talked like a retarded monkey, yes you did, keep up the good work!


logruszed: zabadu: EsteeFlwrPot: zabadu: Oh great, now this has become an abortion thread.

Can there ever be a God questioning thread without abortion coming in and taking over? Because we all know, you can't mention God without condemning abortion.

I really don't think this is about G-d, it's about stupid uneducated parents making bad decisions because they don't understand that medical treatment is necessary.

Please explain why some people say G-d instead of God.

Some people think they are conservative or orthodox jews.

Even if they are not actually conservative or orthodox jews.

Well they saw Tatsuma do it... so.....
Really though I have also seen posters do it out of respect for folks....Or so they claim.

SpeshilEdjukashin: See, there's this little thing called freedom of religion... It's a shame that activist judges don't believe in it anymore, because it is one of the main ideals that our country was founded on, and supposedly one of our "rights."

(0.02/10.00)

Even skinnyhead does better.

EsteeFlwrPot: Well think about it this way. Let's say someone is having a heart attack right in front of you. The typical person would call 911 and try to help them. If you stand there and watch him die right in front of you, doing absolutely nothing to save him, just standing there, wouldn't you think you had a part to play in his death?

Now, what if you started waving...

The Great Whangdoodle, the Infinite Whatever, is dead. Long live the Thing!

Religion doesn't kill people. At least not exclusively. Ideology kills people. Religion is just a subset of that. Christianity, Islam, Marxism, Capitalism, Science and Atheism all have blood on their hands.

/Usually the fault of the dumbest or most power-hungry adherents.

195,000 (^)

zabadu: austerity101: zabadu: Please explain why some people say G-d instead of God.

Short answer: they're Jewish.

I understand the Jewish part. I don't understand the "eliminating the O" part.

And the xtian thing makes sense to you?

In this case there is a AW who decided to pretend to be a holy roller. So, just ignore it and move on.

CapitolG: Well they saw Tatsuma do it... so.....

logruszed: Some people think they are conservative or orthodox jews.

Even if they are not actually conservative or orthodox jews.

I'm not biting so you can stop here. Thanks.

You mean 'God bless the idiots in the world' don't you Subby?

Add that total to the Thousands of Children of Jehovah's Witness parents who have died for not allowing Blood Transfusions, and you begin to realize what a bad problem this really is.

I am so thankful to be out of the CULT known as Jehovah's Witnesses. They have taken away the lives of so many innocent children.

IXI Jim IXI: EsteeFlwrPot: Well think about it this way. Let's say someone is having a heart attack right in front of you. The typical person would call 911 and try to help them. If you stand there and watch him die right in front of you, doing absolutely nothing to save him, just standing there, wouldn't you think you had a part to play in his death?

Now, what if you started waving...

what about the usual DIAF, or "kill yourself now" or whatever pleasantry that the more intelligent Farkers throw around at each other on a daily basis. What if that last "kill yourself now" was enough to push the recipient over the edge? Does the poster have a part in his death?

skinny-lil-b: NO. The radical pro-birth agenda machine will turn ANY discussion into an abortion debate. That's God's most important lesson, you know. He meant the first commmandment to read THOU SHALT BIRTH.

So what you're saying is God says it's ok to rape because that can lead to birth?

SpeshilEdjukashin: See, there's this little thing called freedom of religion... It's a shame that activist judges don't believe in it anymore

My bloodline is descended from cannibals.

Would you care to participate in one of our religious rites? You would be the guest of honor.

/human sacrifice

CapitolG: budsterr: /wow I just pwned millions of liberals

and if by Pwned you mean talked like a retarded monkey, yes you did, keep up the good work!


logruszed: zabadu: EsteeFlwrPot: zabadu: Oh great, now this has become an abortion thread.

Can there ever be a God questioning thread without abortion coming in and taking over? Because we all know, you can't mention God without condemning abortion.

I really don't think this is about G-d, it's about stupid uneducated parents making bad decisions because they don't understand that medical treatment is necessary.

Please explain why some people say G-d instead of God.

Some people think they are conservative or orthodox jews.

Even if they are not actually conservative or orthodox jews.

Well they saw Tatsuma do it... so.....
Really though I have also seen posters do it out of respect for folks....Or so they claim.

Yeah or they have a fetish and are practicing exotification of the other.

Normally I don't mind being a fetish object, but this is just farking stupid. "God" isn't even one of the sacred names, nor is it even a Hebrew word.

Religion is the root of 99% of anything evil.

/sheep
//rapture will be tomorrow
///free beer, tomorrow only

274 less fundies is OK by me.

They either live and get forever screwed up by the whackadoodle parents or they die because of the whackadoodle parents.

They are their kids. Who cares.

zabadu: austerity101: zabadu: Please explain why some people say G-d instead of God.

Short answer: they're Jewish.

I understand the Jewish part. I don't understand the "eliminating the O" part.

If you understood the Jewish part, then you'd understand the "eliminating the O" part, too.

This is a short answer that might help.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_Jewish_people_use_the_word_G-d_instead_of_God

I_Should_Be_Working_Right_Now: Religion is the root of 99% of anything evil.


1/10. Lacks originality.

Let me see if I understand. These religious folks are saying that they're Pro-Choice when it comes to killing the already-born, but abortion is murder?

kronicfeld: SpeshilEdjukashin: See, there's this little thing called freedom of religion... It's a shame that activist judges don't believe in it anymore, because it is one of the main ideals that our country was founded on, and supposedly one of our "rights."

What if your religion believes that it's okay to f*ck eight year olds?

Then you are Catholic.

skullkrusher: what about the usual DIAF, or "kill yourself now" or whatever pleasantry that the more intelligent Farkers throw around at each other on a daily basis. What if that last "kill yourself now" was enough to push the recipient over the edge? Does the poster have a part in his death?

I think I'd prefer "hey hey hey hey...hey hey hey hey...hey hey hey...goodbye..."

Let me correct my previous post;

Organized religion is the root of 99% of evil

There is a lot of cash to be made in religion and this is America, does the rest really need an explanation?

/mega churches
//cash cows

skullkrusher: what about the usual DIAF, or "kill yourself now" or whatever pleasantry that the more intelligent Farkers throw around at each other on a daily basis. What if that last "kill yourself now" was enough to push the recipient over the edge? Does the poster have a part in his death?

No because whoever actually killed themselves took it upon themselves to end their life. If you see someone in need of medical care and you find yourself in the position to give it to them or help them get that help or they die and you do nothing, their death would partially be your fault, in my opinion.

zabadu: Galileo's Daughter: ricewater_stool: Adults are free to practice whatever religion they like and to refuse medical treatment of any kind if they like.

Children are not capable of making these decisions for themselves. If their parents are unwilling to get proper medical treatment for their child and the child dies, the parents should be convicted of child abuse and/or negligent homicide.

Depends on the child's age. The term mature minors (not sure if this is the correct legal term) or adolescents who are capable of explaining their beliefs to judges and laqwyers as well as to doctors.

Sorry, no. Unless emancipated, which takes oodles of time, maturity is usually 18 years of age (sometimes 21).

Here it is. The legal term is mature minor.

http://www.cqcapd.state.ny.us/newsletter/74cclong.htm

sharpie_69: zabadu: austerity101: zabadu: Please explain why some people say G-d instead of God.

Short answer: they're Jewish.

I understand the Jewish part. I don't understand the "eliminating the O" part.

And the xtian thing makes sense to you?

In this case there is a AW who decided to pretend to be a holy roller. So, just ignore it and move on.

XTian does make sense. Even way back in the day they used the letter X to represent Christ. Well, more accurately the Greek letter Chi since that is the first letter in the Greek word for Christ, "Christos".

I think the G-d thing has something to do with not speaking the name of God aloud that carried over from the OT but that I am not sure of

Cambo_: I_Should_Be_Working_Right_Now: Religion is the root of 99% of anything evil.


1/10. Lacks originality.

1/10 eh?

Doesn't make it false :P

EsteeFlwrPot: CapitolG: Well they saw Tatsuma do it... so.....

logruszed: Some people think they are conservative or orthodox jews.

Even if they are not actually conservative or orthodox jews.

I'm not biting so you can stop here. Thanks.

Can't you see that your obsessions can sometimes be taken as offensive? How do you feel about people who are only into Asian women? You get that is treating the individual or the group as fetish objects, right?

We're just people for Hashem's sake.

I_Should_Be_Working_Right_Now: Let me correct my previous post;

Organized religion is the root of 99% of evil

There is a lot of cash to be made in religion and this is America, does the rest really need an explanation?


Fail. There is plenty of cash to be made in reason, science and atheism as well.

And 12 have died in snake attacks, but that's a dangerous crisis. If you include all the dead Iraqis - victims of a war started because of religious belief - I think its safe to say, the snake threat is relatively mild by comparison.

I_Should_Be_Working_Right_Now: Cambo_: I_Should_Be_Working_Right_Now: Religion is the root of 99% of anything evil.


1/10. Lacks originality.

1/10 eh?

Doesn't make it false :P

Doesn't make it true either...

Arnold T Pants 2009-07-02 04:19:46 PM
BergZ: I just wanted to point out that I expect everyone who calls abortion "murder" to call 'letting-your-child-die-because-you-decided-to-pray-INSTEAD-of-giving-them-medi c ine' "murder", and I mean it.

If you truly believe that allowing people to terminate unborn fetuses counts as murder then you can not deny that intentionally letting a child/toddler/preteen die is anything but murder and I expect it to receive the same censure from the pro-life crowd that abortion receives.

"Allowing someone to die of natural causes is the same as killing them? LOL. Wut? I'm not pro-life, but you're an idiot."

I agree with you that 'watching someone die and do nothing' is not the same as 'murder'; on the other hand 'performing a legal medical procedure' is not the same as 'murder' either.

The reason for my post was to point out the many hypocrisies of the oxymoronically named 'Pro-Life' movement. They spend an awful lot of time calling doctors "baby killers" who run "death camps" but they don't spend a single breath condemning people who just watch their born, named, and documented children die before their eyes.

/They're like PETA, in a way, they only care about the "cute ones".

I am all for spirituality, but when money is being made in the millions/hundreds of millions, that's when the line begins to blur.

Oh, please, like stupidity is limited to religion. Tell me, how many children will become ill and even die because their parents do not believe in vaccines or would rather treat their children with "alternative" medicine because to them "nature made" will always be better than "science made"?

An idiot is an idiot is an idiot. Putting in God or taking It out doesn't make a difference.

amanogowa: kronicfeld: SpeshilEdjukashin: See, there's this little thing called freedom of religion... It's a shame that activist judges don't believe in it anymore, because it is one of the main ideals that our country was founded on, and supposedly one of our "rights."

What if your religion believes that it's okay to f*ck eight year olds?

Then you are Catholic.

ahh, the quick wit of amanogowa. Too bad I know 100s of us and not a one thinks that's a good thing. But don't let that get in the way of a cute little quip, right? Get some new material.

logruszed: Can't you see that your obsessions can sometimes be taken as offensive? How do you feel about people who are only into Asian women? You get that is treating the individual or the group as fetish objects, right?

What the heck are you talking about?

Farkazoid: Add that total to the Thousands of Children of Jehovah's Witness parents who have died for not allowing Blood Transfusions, and you begin to realize what a bad problem this really is.

I am so thankful to be out of the CULT known as Jehovah's Witnesses. They have taken away the lives of so many innocent children.

You troll!!! you lie!!!! you have shiat on your face for just hitting google alert " my old religion".

Cambo_: Fail. There is plenty of cash to be made in reason, science and atheism as well.

1) how is that a fail if it's true?

2) Are you actually saying that there is a larger market for selling shiat to atheists than there is to sell to religious people? If there's one thing fundies love more than Jesus it's schlocky things about Jesus.

seamus james: And 12 have died in snake attacks, but that's a dangerous crisis. If you include all the dead Iraqis - victims of a war started because of religious belief - I think its safe to say, the snake threat is relatively mild by comparison.

which war was that SJ?

mekki: An idiot is an idiot is an idiot. Putting in God or taking It out doesn't make a difference.

Amen brother...

Daffydil: mekki: An idiot is an idiot is an idiot. Putting in God or taking It out doesn't make a difference.

Amen brother...

2nd'd

SpeshilEdjukashin: ricewater_stool: Adults are free to practice whatever religion they like and to refuse medical treatment of any kind if they like.

Children are not capable of making these decisions for themselves.

This is exactly where the (scary, IMHO) shift is actually taking place. It used to be that short of beating your kid in to hamburger or sticking your dick in them, parents "owned" their children until they were 18 and could raise them as they saw fit. Now, the government is wanting to get involved at every turn. On one hand, if your 5 year old boy decides to "pants" a girl in kindergarten, he's a registered sex offender for life and your entire family has to go live under a bridge - on the other hand, if you find out he did it first, and spank him to teach him a lesson, he'll be kidnapped by state CPS officers and given to a child molester posing as a foster parent, and you'll go to jail. There is no such thing as common sense anymore.

The problem is that we elect morons to make these decisions. If we had some, I don't know, REQUIREMENTS for elected officials, like ANY OTHER JOB, these situations could be avoided.

skullkrusher: Daffydil: mekki: An idiot is an idiot is an idiot. Putting in God or taking It out doesn't make a difference.

Amen brother...

2nd'd

That's what i've been saying this entire thread and people shiat on me. I don't get it.

/stupid people are stupid