zarberg: toonz: what were the chances before surgery?
(glad you made it, cheers!)

There was a part of my intestine that was 100% blocked, so I think my parents were told I would die for sure without the surgery.

And thank you, glad to be alive and trolling fark.com like the jerk I am.

well, good for your parents, you jerk! ;P

SpeshilEdjukashin: See, there's this little thing called freedom of religion... It's a shame that activist judges don't believe in it anymore, because it is one of the main ideals that our country was founded on, and supposedly one of our "rights."

Freedom of religion does not empower you to practice your beliefs to the detriment of other individuals welfare, particularly not those under the legal age of autonomy. Just like freedom of speech does not allow you to endanger others (old-saw: yelling fire in a theater).

Now tell me, did I just take the troll-bait or are you really that stupid?

Millions have died from abortion because people have no respect for Gods creations and life. People act like animals in heat and let lust rule their lives. They call puncturing a childs head and sucking it's brains out "choice". People defend the mass murder of children while feigning outrage over Christians.

Most of you are the epitome of hypocrisy and evil.

deadapostle: I'm pretty sure that more children have died in the US of sneezing since 1974, so I'm not really thinking that this is much of a social issue. The parents should be jailed, preferably before the child dies, but otherwise, this isn't newsworthy.

If you come to FARK for "newsworthy" you're doing it about 99% wrong.

People who force religious mindgarbage on kids are as bad as molestors as far as I am concerned. And sometimes even worse.

If anything we should encourage religious people to keep the faith when their children get sick, that way there will be less of them in the future.

Mija: Millions have died from abortion because people have no respect for Gods creations and life. People act like animals in heat and let lust rule their lives. They call puncturing a childs head and sucking it's brains out "choice". People defend the mass murder of children while feigning outrage over Christians.

Most of you are the epitome of hypocrisy and evil.

Meh, 5/10

dognose4: How many has God healed in that time period?

Zero

and if you tell me otherwise I'd like proof.

dognose4: How many has God healed in that time period?

Some illnesses do respond to no treatment. God has nothing to do with them.

Agent Nick Fury: How many have died from doctor errors?
Or wrong medication?
Or getting hit by lightning?

This. I think the Jesus lovers are nutty, but honestly, more children die a month from mal-treatment by doctors than have died in the last 40 years by being treated with prayer.

Sorry it it's been posted already:


What's the Harm? (new window)

Mija: Millions have died from abortion because people have no respect for Gods creations and life. People act like animals in heat and let lust rule their lives. They call puncturing a childs head and sucking it's brains out "choice". People defend the mass murder of children while feigning outrage over Christians.

Most of you are the epitome of hypocrisy and evil.

It's not feigning if i'm actually outraged. Try being one of the few kids in school that didn't know enough to pretend like they went to church so they wouldn't be persecuted mercilessly.

BobtheFascist: manimal2878: It's a shame if you belive in superstitious nonsense that you can get away with child abuse and neglect depending on what nonsense you believe in still.

It's a shame you can have kids when you're poor too, but no one seems to care about that.

Specious. I care about that, and most people I know also care about that.

you clearly care too, are you a "nobody"? Is this like that "war on Christians" I keep hearing about when I flip past certain channels?

Mija: Millions have died from abortion because people have no respect for Gods creations and life. People act like animals in heat and let lust rule their lives. They call puncturing a childs head and sucking it's brains out "choice". People defend the mass murder of children while feigning outrage over Christians.

Most of you are the epitome of hypocrisy and evil.

Hey if we're going to turn this into a discussion of body counts I don't think us heathens are going to come close to organized religion.

/I'm just saying

Why Won't God Heal Amputees? (new window)

my religious beliefs say I should kill 6 babies every single week BUT THE FASCIST US GOVERNMENT WON'T LET ME!!!!!11ELEVEN

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

QUINTUPLE WHARRGARBL

dognose4: How many has God healed in that time period?


ZERO

I thought the number would be a lot higher considering the number of idiots who believe in this.

Mija: Millions have died from abortion because people have no respect for Gods creations and life. People act like animals in heat and let lust rule their lives. They call puncturing a childs head and sucking it's brains out "choice". People defend the mass murder of children while feigning outrage over Christians.

Most of you are the epitome of hypocrisy and evil.

Why thank you ;)

We haven't even tapped our true potential yet.

AverageJoe77: Mija: Millions have died from abortion because people have no respect for Gods creations and life. People act like animals in heat and let lust rule their lives. They call puncturing a childs head and sucking it's brains out "choice". People defend the mass murder of children while feigning outrage over Christians.

Most of you are the epitome of hypocrisy and evil.

Hey if we're going to turn this into a discussion of body counts I don't think us heathens are going to come close to organized religion.

/I'm just saying

Unless you count the Romans. =)

And to think, many of the particularly rabid type of "god botherer" are PRO LIFE and think that terminating a blob of cells with no developed nervous system is tantamount to murder.

Yet that would let their OWN CHILD die a painful and lingering death?

All to gain some "brownie points" with their particular imaginary sky-fairy so he'll let them into his heaven?

This is really the ultimate act of selfishness. Freedom of religion be damned, lock these superstitious sheep up for LIFE! (or at least an institute for the criminally insane)

Oh, and do the same to the Preacher who convinced them to do this, too!

R.A.Danny: This never ever happens anywhere but in the good old United States.

Not necessarily.
In January 2007, sextuplets were born 15 weeks to Jehovah's Witness parents at BC Children's Hospital in Vancouver. The majority of preemy babies need blood transfusions, but the JW religion forbids it. Two of the babies died before the province ordered any required transfusions for the surviving quadruplets.

One Source

NorCalLos: I guess it's time for all the bad parents to call religous people crazy, so they can feel better about their daughters doing Oxy-contin and giving beej's on the school bus.

In my experience, those are the kids of the religious people.

/went to private Christian school
//two girls were pregnant at graduation
///only 10 girls in my senior class

A whole 274 children? Because their parents put faith before medicine? Okay; how many have died because their parents put medicine before faith. Or, even better because their "parents"
put pleasure, then medicine before faith.

Fair is fair.

Great Metal Jesus: Why can't it be both? If the religious sect specifically says that you should do X, where X is praying for your child instead of getting medical help or refusing life-saving blood transfusions, why isn't that specific religious sect also at fault?

If any religious sect/person/whatever is telling you to refuse medical treatment in a life threatening situation then it isn't a religion people should be following. That said, people should be smart enough to know that.

"Since 1975, 274 children have died in this country because their parents thought prayer, not medicine, would cure them. God bless America"

I just wanted to point out that I expect everyone who calls abortion "murder" to call 'letting-your-child-die-because-you-decided-to-pray-INSTEAD-of-giving-them-medi c ine' "murder", and I mean it.

If you truly believe that allowing people to terminate unborn fetuses counts as murder then you can not deny that intentionally letting a child/toddler/preteen die is anything but murder and I expect it to receive the same censure from the pro-life crowd that abortion receives.

An authoritarian government that controlled our lives would certainly prevent this from happening and make life much better. Freedom is so 19th century.

Let natural selection do it's job.

thats pretty bad, no doubt, but how many children have died because their parents thought abortion was ok?

stevenr868: thats pretty bad, no doubt, but how many children have died because their parents thought abortion was ok?

Children? Absolutely none.

stevenr868: thats pretty bad, no doubt, but how many children have died because their parents thought abortion was ok?

None because an unborn fetus is not a child. It is a fetus. When it is born it is a baby. A few years later it becomes a toddler/child/whippersnapper

The Bruce Dickinson: Religion is IRRATIONAL by definition.

Faith is nothing more than the lack of reason.

Allowing your child to die because you lack reason is criminal!

I thought that faith was trusting in something without ample empirical evidence. That's what I was taught, anyway.

But I agree that these people need to be stopped.

Conservationist: God bless natural selection in all of its forms, or we'd all still have 85 IQ points like our ancestors in Africa!

Isn't that a little above the average IQ of both Baptists and Mormons? Seriously, I believe it is.

stevenr868: thats pretty bad, no doubt, but how many children have died because their parents thought abortion was ok?

What's your definition of a child?

stevenr868: thats pretty bad, no doubt, but how many children have died because their parents thought abortion was ok?

Marvelous troll! 8/10

Oh, and they're just tissue - not kids. How many tumors have died because their hosts thought chemo was OK?

Oh great, now this has become an abortion thread.

Can there ever be a God questioning thread without abortion coming in and taking over? Because we all know, you can't mention God without condemning abortion.

EsteeFlwrPot: Is this the thread where people shiat on religion because some people don't fully understand the concept of faith so that must mean all religious people are insane backwards cavemen that believe in fairy tales and religion should be outlawed?

You've come to the right place. Shall I take your coat?

zabadu: Oh great, now this has become an abortion thread.

Can there ever be a God questioning thread without abortion coming in and taking over? Because we all know, you can't mention God without condemning abortion.

I really don't think this is about G-d, it's about stupid uneducated parents making bad decisions because they don't understand that medical treatment is necessary.

BergZ: I just wanted to point out that I expect everyone who calls abortion "murder" to call 'letting-your-child-die-because-you-decided-to-pray-INSTEAD-of-giving-them-medi c ine' "murder", and I mean it.

If you truly believe that allowing people to terminate unborn fetuses counts as murder then you can not deny that intentionally letting a child/toddler/preteen die is anything but murder and I expect it to receive the same censure from the pro-life crowd that abortion receives.

Allowing someone to die of natural causes is the same as killing them? LOL. Wut? I'm not pro-life, but you're an idiot.

love-m'-beer: Why Won't God Heal Amputees? (new window)

God doesn't heal amputees because our bodies aren't designed to regenerate limbs from scratch. Although that might make penis enlargement more amusing..

That's using your intelligently-designed brain!

How many millions of babies have been murdered since 1972 because liberals think it is their right to do so?

/wow I just pwned millions of liberals
//I think I have earned myself a sandwich

EsteeFlwrPot: zabadu: Oh great, now this has become an abortion thread.

Can there ever be a God questioning thread without abortion coming in and taking over? Because we all know, you can't mention God without condemning abortion.

I really don't think this is about G-d, it's about stupid uneducated parents making bad decisions because they don't understand that medical treatment is necessary.

Please explain why some people say G-d instead of God.

EsteeFlwrPot: G-d

WTF? Is your O broken?

budsterr: How many millions of babies have been murdered since 1972 because liberals think it is their right to do so?

/wow I just pwned millions of liberals
//I think I have earned myself a sandwich

Zero. They aren't babies until they are born.

You really need to stop focusing on the 274 that have died and celebrate the 10s of millions that are being kept alive by daily prayer. Think of the mess we'd have if people stopped praying to keep them safe. Those 274 were obviously evil or were rightously unhealed because of the sins of their fathers.


/Have heard this reasoning
//These people are worse than savages
///because savages didn't have our medical technology.

zabadu: EsteeFlwrPot: zabadu: Oh great, now this has become an abortion thread.

Can there ever be a God questioning thread without abortion coming in and taking over? Because we all know, you can't mention God without condemning abortion.

I really don't think this is about G-d, it's about stupid uneducated parents making bad decisions because they don't understand that medical treatment is necessary.

Please explain why some people say G-d instead of God.

Some people think they are conservative or orthodox jews.

Even if they are not actually conservative or orthodox jews.

zabadu: Please explain why some people say G-d instead of God.

Short answer: they're Jewish.

zabadu: Oh great, now this has become an abortion thread.

Can there ever be a God questioning thread without abortion coming in and taking over? Because we all know, you can't mention God without condemning abortion.

NO. The radical pro-birth agenda machine will turn ANY discussion into an abortion debate. That's God's most important lesson, you know. He meant the first commmandment to read THOU SHALT BIRTH.

ricewater_stool: Adults are free to practice whatever religion they like and to refuse medical treatment of any kind if they like.

Children are not capable of making these decisions for themselves. If their parents are unwilling to get proper medical treatment for their child and the child dies, the parents should be convicted of child abuse and/or negligent homicide.

Depends on the child's age. The term mature minors (not sure if this is the correct legal term) or adolescents who are capable of explaining their beliefs to judges and laqwyers as well as to doctors.