badhatharry: He can display it on the front page of the New York Times if he wanted to.

Okay, show me where in the state law it says he can disseminate it to people without a direct, tangible interest in it.

captain_heroic44: badhatharry: FreakinB: SkinnyHead: I know this is a difficult concept for ignorant Obama toadies (no offense) to grasp, but the computer generated "Certification" of live birth is not the same as the original "Certificate" of live birth. Why won't he release the original?

As someone who's not an Obama "toadie" (though I did vote for him), it's been quite fully demonstrated to you that he has released everything he can under Hawaii law. I mean, even the text of the law itself has been posted in this thread. It's not Obama making excuses. It's state law - verified by some of the highest officials in that state's government - and as we all know, even the President is not above the law.

/Know I'm responding to a troll
//Need to somehow kill time until I head out later

You may not be an Obama "toadie", but you are retarded if you believe that the President can't get a copy of his original birth certificate.

He doesn't have to, and the request that he do so is unreasonable and racist.

I agree with that.

SkinnyHead: I know this is a difficult concept for ignorant Obama toadies (no offense) to grasp, but the computer generated "Certification" of live birth is not the same as the original "Certificate" of live birth. Why won't he release the original?

I imagine that if he still had his original "certificate of live birth," he would have released it. I'm guessing here, but more than likely, it was misplaced sometime during his 47+ years and various moves. So he asked for a new copy, and he posted what they gave him, (back to facts here) the only document they give out to anyone requesting a birth certificate. It is a legal, official copy of the record of his birth and is 100 percent legitimate as proof of citizenship. That you and a handful of other loons don't accept those facts is an unchangeable, yet comical, commentary on just how far people will delude themselves to believe theories with no basis in reality.

badhatharry: He can display it on the front page of the New York Times if he wanted to.

No. No, he cannot.

it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records

printboy: If I were a Liberal I'd have to immediately quit smoking, in public at least. I'd be required to agree that global warming is real and man is the cause. Even though the earth has cooled in the last decade, everyone knows its still getting warmer.

I'd also have to renounce Christianity in favor of Mother Earth and believe that the Constitution is a 'living instrument'.

I'd have to agree that victimhood trumps merit and that liberals know best. Always. And lastly, I'd have to support the notion that racism is still rampant, even if it is the silent 'institutional' type.

In return, I'll be accepted, popular, and invited to the best parties. I'll be eligible for the right to housing, health care, a living wage (even if I don't work) and happiness. And as long as I remain a liberal, no-one is allowed to insult me. How cool is that?

I'll finally get my columns published in my own hometown paper and will have a good chance of getting face time on MSNBC. Best of all, I'll be able to atone for my sins by merely paying Algore for a few carbon credits. Then, I will live happily ever after. Isn't that worth sacrificing such ethereal and frivolous notions like freedom, individualism and principles?

LesserEvil: I hate stepping into this argument, because both sides seem to be all sorts of retarded, but since when did they have LASER PRINTERS in 1961 to print certificates?

OK dumbasses one more time.

I had to get my passport two 1/2 years ago because I was planning a trip overseas.

I took my beat-up little printed piece of paper of 1971 vintage with the embossed seal, typewritten info, and all my immunizations written on it in pencil by my mom, plus a few cockatiel or budgie bites taken out of the edges, to the post office. They would not take it. THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT THIS AS MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

I had to send $50+ to a company owned by ChoicePoint to get a transcript of birth or some such, which looks remarkably like Obama's except the paper is reddish. It was clearly printed out on a laser printer on modern paper.

I took this to the post office and they accepted it as proof of my birth.

FOR fark'S SAKE, IF THIS IS PROOF THAT I CAN GET A LEGAL PASSPORT, THE HAWAIIAN DOCUMENT IS PROOF THAT OBAMA CAN BE PRESIDENT.

\that is all.
\\do I need to scan my birth transcript thingy and start posting it for the birthers?

cameroncrazy1984: badhatharry: He can display it on the front page of the New York Times if he wanted to.

Okay, show me where in the state law it says he can disseminate it to people without a direct, tangible interest in it.

The state of Hawaii can't disseminate it to anyone without a direct, tangible interest.

LesserEvil: Vangor: LesserEvil: It's just a certification that Hawaii has a record of live birth with that information stored in it's data systems

It says the city, county, and island of his birth. Unless one wants to say this is false, I don't see the contention to be made.

We don't honestly know whether it's true or false. As far as the State of Hawaii is concerned, for legal purposes, they are certifying that it is true - but that doesn't make it actually true. People are legally declared guilty of crimes they didn't commit, and innocent of crimes they did commit. "Legal" doesn't always equal reality.


LesserEvil: produce the actual, original birth certificate, not some "certified record of live birth" printed up last year.

I don't believe I have an original birth certificate, and I'm half Obama's age.

I do. I was born in 1966, and I have my original, as well as a certified copy (an actual copy of the original copy that is on file with the county). I also have my hospital birth certificate (different than the county birth certificate). I don't think that paper Hawaii printed last year would have qualified without some additional documentation.

I also have a document trail that includes my military records, for which I had to produce a certified copy of my ORIGINAL birth certificate, and follows on to the DD214 and my clearance papers for my current job on a government contract.

Somehow, I would think that the POTUS would need just as much documentation to get his job as I did to enlist in the Marine Corps.

I see. So in your opinion, then, the normal requirements were waived just for Obama? Who all was in on this? Was there some kind of a payoff involved? Or has this been in the works since the early 60s?

Oops I think the paper is actually more purply. I was just irritated when I said it was red. Where the fark is that thing anyway, do I need to pipe another $50 to ChoicePoint?

Hoopido: zabadu: SkinnyHead: logruszed: SkinnyHead: Rather than ridicule the 400,000 citizens who have asked to see the original Certificate of Live Birth, why doesn't Obama just authorize release of that document? His stubborn refusal to do so is perpetuating the issue.

It was released, here is a link to it: HERE (new window)

Now are you going to admit you're misinformed?
Or are you just a farking troll or a moron?

No, I'm afraid you're the one misinformed. People are asking Obama to release the original Certificate of Live Birth.

That computer generated document is called a "Certification of Live Birth" which is not the original Certificate of Live Birth.

The original source document is the best evidence of Obama's birth. Instead of going through all these gyrations and excuses, let's just have a look at that.

Are you completely stupid? Did you not see this?

Obama has no "right" to inspect the original, kept in a state vault, or to compel the Hawaii Department of Health to provide him with a photocopy of it.

In any case, this much is clear: the birth facts on the form released by Obama are consistent with the document on file in the records vault. That's simply the way these things work. If the abstract Obama released says he was born in Honolulu, the vault certificate says that he was born in Honolulu.

So his grandmother was lying when she said she was at the birth?

Which grandmother? Which Barack Obama? Give us the entire context of your bullshiat statement, why don't you? Also, show us your birth certificate.

badhatharry: The state of Hawaii can't disseminate it to anyone without a direct, tangible interest.

Wrong. Here, I'll bold the parts that are relevant:

"it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records"

No Such Agency: andrewagill:
apistat: Meh, this is boring. The real fun comes from that crazy blogger who made an enormous post "proving" that Obama's real father was Malcolm X.

The best part of that theory is that she claimed that Obama was born in Seattle. Malcolm X was a US citizen. Dunham was a US citizen. Seattle--someone help me out here, what country is Seattle in?

So a man is born in the US to two US citizen parents.

OMG! He's not a US citizen! It's so obvious!

Holy crap that blog is a bag of crazy. It's almost Time Cube crazy. Also, takes bloody forever to get to the point, by the time it springs the "revelation" no reader would give a crap if Obama's father was Shaka Zulu himself.

Well, now you've done it! Shaka Zulu can open, worms everywhere!

Bloody William: badhatharry: He can display it on the front page of the New York Times if he wanted to.

No. No, he cannot.

it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records

Bloody William: badhatharry: He can display it on the front page of the New York Times if he wanted to.

No. No, he cannot.

it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records

So nobody can inspect the vital records. Wow, they must be really top secret.

Egalitarian: Oops I think the paper is actually more purply. I was just irritated when I said it was red. Where the fark is that thing anyway, do I need to pipe another $50 to ChoicePoint?

Not necessarily. Especially if you have someone who lives in the county you were born in. Call the office in your birth county and find out specifically what they need. All Choicepoint does is pay 20-30 bucks to send a freelancer to that office to get it.

My Bad

Stay on topic....

So, Obama is on birth control?

badhatharry: So nobody can inspect the vital records. Wow, they must be really top secret.

Yeah, isn't that weird? It's almost as if they're important!

badhatharry: So nobody can inspect the vital records. Wow, they must be really top secret.fark it. Here's the law in question.

GomezAdams:

If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

Hmmmm?

If you are the primary stakeholder in a company, the way the government is, you don't need Constitutional authority to fire an employee. The simple case is, if they wanted money, Rick Waggoner wouldn't and shouldn't be able to piss it away. It's your own tax dollars isn't it.

Besides, looking at the stock price when he became CEO and the price when he left, you REALLY don't want to defend the idiot. I really think you should study GM's decisions in the last decade. That moron made those decisions.

I forget which news show I saw this on, but now some Birthers are putting up a "reward" for anyone who was in the delivery room to step forward and provide physical evidence that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

A. Obama is nearly 50, so odds are most if not all of the people in the delivery room are dead by now and B. just what "physical evidence" would anyone have after all this time? Hell, if someone took a snap shot, a Birther would just say it was Photoshopped or some such thing. Or do they expect someone to have kept the placenta for half a century? Eeewww.

SupremeLeader: Maybe Obama is the liberal equivalent of Serpentor, a genetic merger of all evil, freedom-hating liberals across the ages.

That's why nobody can find his real, real birth certificate, because he was grown in a Castro Street laboratory!

Somebody needs to make a comic or cartoon of this NOW.

Bloody William: Actually, as the registrant he is one of the people explicitly described in the statute as having a direct and tangible interest (there's a list).

However, that means he can inspect it. It in no way means he can disseminate it.

That's a ridiculous interpretation of §338-18. Once Obama obtains a certified copy of the original document, there is no law preventing him from publicizing it. The whole purpose of obtaining a certified copy of a document is to show the document to others.

SkinnyHead: That's a ridiculous interpretation of §338-18

That's the interpretation given by the director of the Hawaii department of health. You know, the department that is actually involved with upholding and adhering to that statute?

Are you saying you know more about this specific statute than the director of the department it regulates?

SkinnyHead: Bloody William: Actually, as the registrant he is one of the people explicitly described in the statute as having a direct and tangible interest (there's a list).

However, that means he can inspect it. It in no way means he can disseminate it.

That's a ridiculous interpretation of §338-18. Once Obama obtains a certified copy of the original document, there is no law preventing him from publicizing it. The whole purpose of obtaining a certified copy of a document is to show the document to others.

Exactly. What purpose would a birth certificate have if you couldn't show it to anyone? To prove to yourself where you were born.

SkinnyHead: Bloody William: Actually, as the registrant he is one of the people explicitly described in the statute as having a direct and tangible interest (there's a list).

However, that means he can inspect it. It in no way means he can disseminate it.

That's a ridiculous interpretation of §338-18. Once Obama obtains a certified copy of the original document, there is no law preventing him from publicizing it. The whole purpose of obtaining a certified copy of a document is to show the document to others.

There's also no reason for him to do so. Again, you're a racist, and who's actually met an intelligent racist? That's why this argument will continue forever, apparently.

Hoopido:
So his grandmother was lying when she said she was at the birth?

She said he was a "child of this village". She repeatedly says that he was born in Hawaii.

If someone comes to Colorado and buys a Subaru Outback, I might say "you're a true Coloradoan now". It doesn't magically change where that person was born.

/Seriously, how do you even function at a high enough level to turn a computer on? Do you just mash at buttons until it gets all *BEEP*y?

Bloody William: badhatharry: So nobody can inspect the vital records. Wow, they must be really top secret.fark it. Here's the law in question.

It is referring to personnel in the records office.

Bloody William: That's the interpretation given by the director of the Hawaii department of health. You know, the department that is actually involved with upholding and adhering to that statute?

When did the director of Hawaii DOH specifically state that Obama could not disseminate a copy of his own original birth certificate?

Egalitarian:
I took my beat-up little printed piece of paper of 1971 vintage with the embossed seal, typewritten info, and all my immunizations written on it in pencil by my mom, plus a few cockatiel or budgie bites taken out of the edges, to the post office. They would not take it. THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT THIS AS MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE.


Thanks - I'd been wondering about that. Since all I have is the same sort of thing, except it's handwritten. And the embossed seal has worn down so it's not really that notably embossed anymore.

I should probably talk to the woefully primitive holders of my vital records (County of Los Angeles, California) and get an updated copy one of these days.

printboy: I want to be a liberal because everyone knows they hold the moral high ground. They don't lie, cheat or steal. Oh, and they don't condone torture. The media says so, so it must be true.


Before I am able to join this community of man, however, there are a few ground rules:


I have to acknowledge that government is the best and only solution for any problems America has. Despite the fact that pretty much every government solution to date has been a disaster.


I must agree that America is bad and white Christian males are responsible for all that is wrong with the world. Further, I must agree that terrorists and third world dictators are either freedom fighters or misunderstood men of good will. Oh, and I must acknowledge that dialogue is better than war. Even though decades of dialogue haven't worked, things are different, now that Obama is president. I must have faith. After all, the times, they are a changin'.


I'd, of course, be expected to not only condone, but happily embrace gay marriage and the long list of newly minted sexual behaviors, and swear to never mention the adverse health risks or the proven harm they do to traditional families.


I'd also have to quit judging people (except for conservatives). After all, liberals will allow me to do whatever I want, free from moral censure, and its only fair I do the same for them.

You wanna be a liberal? Fine. Here, **POOF** you're a liberal.
See? Easy , peasy.

Oh, come on. Nobody before me? Really?



/Hot like good linguica sausage
//All that needs to be said in reply

LesserEvil: What is your point? I'm simply saying that this isn't an original birth certificate. It's simply a certification that there is a record, in Hawaii's database.

The stupid. It burns!

If I was a liberal, I would NOT have fought charlie in Vietnam, I wouldve dodged the draft like a liberal cowherd. I mightve gone to Nam later as a salesman.

If I was a liberal, I would try to oppress any kind of frank dialog and instead only take prescreened questions from the press. This would be the case not just for the president, but also for the governer and for the mare.

If I was a liberal, I would take money from the hard working denisens of America and give it to the wellfare queens who are addicted to crack, huff paint and jerk off behind dumpsters. I would rock and roll all night man. And party every day man. Let the other people pay my way!

If I was a liberal, I would spend all my time paying attention to TMZ, wondering about Lindsey Lohan and the kid from the "Im a Mac" commericals instead of recognizing that the president is an illegal emigrant who gave the queen an ipod and eats mustard. I would always let blacks play the race card while actually being racist towards whites because of white guilt, calling my own people a mick. Poiliticians would be my god instead of Jesus and I would literally worship Obama as the messiah. I would ignore stains that looked like the virgin Mary and instead Id pray to stains that looked like Keith Olberman.

If I was a liberal, I would look through my refrigerater for soda, OJ, purple stuff, sunny D, but then Id pick the starbucks latte because Id be a latte liberal who drinks elitist starbucks coffee. I would be underweight, restless and have brittle bones from being a stupid vagitarian. I would hate hamburger pattys and fart a mist that smelled like my own self importants called "smug". I would pretend to solve the oil crisis by driveing an electric car. Men would have sex with me at the gay club I frequented as a gay liberal, or maybe they would be trannys. (Pre op)

If I was a liberal I would stand up for what I believe in! *crickets* Oh wait liberals dont believe in anything. There only beliefs is they want an abortion.

If I was a liberal, I would NOT heed the words of my father who used to remind me always, "sonny, in Philadelphia theres a bell called the liberty bell and it stands for liberty." Those were wise words but the libs seem to have forgotten.

SkinnyHead: Bloody William: That's the interpretation given by the director of the Hawaii department of health. You know, the department that is actually involved with upholding and adhering to that statute?

When did the director of Hawaii DOH specifically state that Obama could not disseminate a copy of his own original birth certificate?

There's only one original. How does one "disseminate" a single document?

LesserEvil: We don't honestly know whether it's true or false

You seem to have missed where I said, "say". I possess no reason to doubt the validity of the claims of birth place by a person, a certificate attesting to this fact, nor the agency verifying the authenticity of the certificate. To need to say "We don't honestly know whether it's true or false," is absurd. The insinuation is made now that evidence must be provided to dismiss conspiratorial doubt.

LesserEvil: "Legal" doesn't always equal reality.

What you believe you experience doesn't always equal reality either. Still, this doesn't mean a solipsism is a reasonable perspective on the world.

LesserEvil: Somehow, I would think that the POTUS would need just as much documentation to get his job as I did to enlist in the Marine Corps.

I believe I had to present two valid forms of identification and a photo identification when I was attempting to apply into the Air Force. One was a birth certificate, and both others either required the same birth certificate or my SSN to receive. Perhaps more would have been required had I fully enlisted, I am unsure. However, all the same, if I ran for POTUS I don't know what information I could show beyond those if anyone questioned me.

I don't know about anyone else, I started out this thread not believing the claims of the birthers but now I'm convinced. There's no way I'm going to vote for Obama this November.

Dragonsbreath: The main issue is he will not show any of his records..

Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released -- Lawyers fees -- greater than $1,000,000 -- birth certificate -- $15.
Certification of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released

Obama/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)

Kindergarten records -- Records lost (this is a big one -- see here -- read two frames)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released

Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released (by independent investigators)
Punahou School records -- Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)

Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport -- Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama's terrorism and intelligence adviser.
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- "Soviet Nuclear Disarmament" -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None

Illinois Bar Records -- Not released.
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
Law practice client list -- Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None


Should make someone wonder whats being hidden....

Maybe he doesn't really exist. He sorta came onto the scene right around the time Dave Chappelle vanished.

/his voice reminds me of when Chappelle pretends to be a White guy

Bloody William: badhatharry: He can display it on the front page of the New York Times if he wanted to.

No. No, he cannot.

Yes. Yes, he can.

He might be impeached if he did, but why let that get in the way of a good conspiracy?

StopArrestingMe: If I was a liberal, I would NOT have fought charlie in Vietnam, I wouldve dodged the draft like a liberal cowherd. I mightve gone to Nam later as a salesman.

If I was a liberal, I would try to oppress any kind of frank dialog and instead only take prescreened questions from the press. This would be the case not just for the president, but also for the governer and for the mare.

If I was a liberal, I would take money from the hard working denisens of America and give it to the wellfare queens who are addicted to crack, huff paint and jerk off behind dumpsters. I would rock and roll all night man. And party every day man. Let the other people pay my way!

If I was a liberal, I would spend all my time paying attention to TMZ, wondering about Lindsey Lohan and the kid from the "Im a Mac" commericals instead of recognizing that the president is an illegal emigrant who gave the queen an ipod and eats mustard. I would always let blacks play the race card while actually being racist towards whites because of white guilt, calling my own people a mick. Poiliticians would be my god instead of Jesus and I would literally worship Obama as the messiah. I would ignore stains that looked like the virgin Mary and instead Id pray to stains that looked like Keith Olberman.

If I was a liberal, I would look through my refrigerater for soda, OJ, purple stuff, sunny D, but then Id pick the starbucks latte because Id be a latte liberal who drinks elitist starbucks coffee. I would be underweight, restless and have brittle bones from being a stupid vagitarian. I would hate hamburger pattys and fart a mist that smelled like my own self importants called "smug". I would pretend to solve the oil crisis by driveing an electric car. Men would have sex with me at the gay club I frequented as a gay liberal, or maybe they would be trannys. (Pre op)

If I was a liberal I would stand up for what I believe in! *crickets* Oh wait liberals dont believe in anything. There only beliefs is they want an abortion.

If I was a liberal, I would NOT heed the words of my father who used to remind me always, "sonny, in Philadelphia theres a bell called the liberty bell and it stands for liberty." Those were wise words but the libs seem to have forgotten.

SkinnyHead: Bloody William: That's the interpretation given by the director of the Hawaii department of health. You know, the department that is actually involved with upholding and adhering to that statute?

When did the director of Hawaii DOH specifically state that Obama could not disseminate a copy of his own original birth certificate?

"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama's official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record."

338:18 forbids the release of the document. It does not forbid the release only from the DoH.

StopArrestingMe: If I was a liberal, I would NOT have fought charlie in Vietnam, I wouldve dodged the draft like a liberal cowherd. I mightve gone to Nam later as a salesman......

Personal pronouns!
/not very good at this....

Hoopido: Bloody William: Obama couldn't legally disseminate that document if he wanted to.

You do realize he is the president right?

You do realise that, unlike Bush, he actually follows the laws of the land, as he should?

snOr: Read it again, dude. S.A.M.s posts are masterworks - you need to kind of read between the lines, and look for patterns.

From the Clinton "death list"


Gandy Baugh: Baugh was Lasater's attorney and committed suicide on January 8, 1994.

From the Obama "death list"

GANDY BAUGH - Attorney for Obama friend Antonin Rezko died by falling out an eightieth story window of the Hancock Tower, January, 2003. His client was a convicted Chinese spy.

PURE EVIL!!!!111!!!11!!

SharkInfested: You do realise that, unlike Bush, he actually follows the laws of the land, as he should?

What is the point of being monarch with that f*cking Magna Carta around?

StopArrestingMe: If I was a liberal, I would NOT have fought charlie in Vietnam, I wouldve dodged the draft like a liberal cowherd. I mightve gone to Nam later as a salesman.

If I was a liberal, I would try to oppress any kind of frank dialog and instead only take prescreened questions from the press. This would be the case not just for the president, but also for the governer and for the mare.

If I was a liberal, I would take money from the hard working denisens of America and give it to the wellfare queens who are addicted to crack, huff paint and jerk off behind dumpsters. I would rock and roll all night man. And party every day man. Let the other people pay my way!

If I was a liberal, I would spend all my time paying attention to TMZ, wondering about Lindsey Lohan and the kid from the "Im a Mac" commericals instead of recognizing that the president is an illegal emigrant who gave the queen an ipod and eats mustard. I would always let blacks play the race card while actually being racist towards whites because of white guilt, calling my own people a mick. Poiliticians would be my god instead of Jesus and I would literally worship Obama as the messiah. I would ignore stains that looked like the virgin Mary and instead Id pray to stains that looked like Keith Olberman.

If I was a liberal, I would look through my refrigerater for soda, OJ, purple stuff, sunny D, but then Id pick the starbucks latte because Id be a latte liberal who drinks elitist starbucks coffee. I would be underweight, restless and have brittle bones from being a stupid vagitarian. I would hate hamburger pattys and fart a mist that smelled like my own self importants called "smug". I would pretend to solve the oil crisis by driveing an electric car. Men would have sex with me at the gay club I frequented as a gay liberal, or maybe they would be trannys. (Pre op)

If I was a liberal I would stand up for what I believe in! *crickets* Oh wait liberals dont believe in anything. There only beliefs is they want an abortion.

If I was a liberal, I would NOT heed the words of my father who used to remind me always, "sonny, in Philadelphia theres a bell called the liberty bell and it stands for liberty." Those were wise words but the libs seem to have forgotten.

As a liberal combat veteran you can suck my cock.

StampedingElephant: Dragonsbreath: The main issue is he will not show any of his records..

Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released Illegal to release -- Lawyers fees -- greater than $1,000,000 -- birth certificate -- $15.
Certification of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit Authenticated (see original article)



FTFY you utter birther cock.

HighOnCraic: From the Clinton "death list"


Gandy Baugh: Baugh was Lasater's attorney and committed suicide on January 8, 1994.

From the Obama "death list"

GANDY BAUGH - Attorney for Obama friend Antonin Rezko died by falling out an eightieth story window of the Hancock Tower, January, 2003. His client was a convicted Chinese spy.

PURE EVIL!!!!111!!!11!!

So he raised a man from the dead just to kill him again? No wonder the Repubtards keep calling him the Messiah.

If George W. Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you have approved?

You need constitutional authority to do that? Its not prohibited. Unless perhaps you are thing about the powers reserved to the states. Perhaps a governor should do it instead? Is this what you are really implying?

Oh wait you mean a significant holder of company debt wants the moron that ran the ship aground out? Clearly that is ridiculous.

StopArrestingMe: If I was a liberal, I would NOT have fought charlie in Vietnam, I wouldve dodged the draft like a liberal cowherd. I mightve gone to Nam later as a salesman.

If I was a liberal, I would try to oppress any kind of frank dialog and instead only take prescreened questions from the press. This would be the case not just for the president, but also for the governer and for the mare.

If I was a liberal, I would take money from the hard working denisens of America and give it to the wellfare queens who are addicted to crack, huff paint and jerk off behind dumpsters. I would rock and roll all night man. And party every day man. Let the other people pay my way!

If I was a liberal, I would spend all my time paying attention to TMZ, wondering about Lindsey Lohan and the kid from the "Im a Mac" commericals instead of recognizing that the president is an illegal emigrant who gave the queen an ipod and eats mustard. I would always let blacks play the race card while actually being racist towards whites because of white guilt, calling my own people a mick. Poiliticians would be my god instead of Jesus and I would literally worship Obama as the messiah. I would ignore stains that looked like the virgin Mary and instead Id pray to stains that looked like Keith Olberman.

If I was a liberal, I would look through my refrigerater for soda, OJ, purple stuff, sunny D, but then Id pick the starbucks latte because Id be a latte liberal who drinks elitist starbucks coffee. I would be underweight, restless and have brittle bones from being a stupid vagitarian. I would hate hamburger pattys and fart a mist that smelled like my own self importants called "smug". I would pretend to solve the oil crisis by driveing an electric car. Men would have sex with me at the gay club I frequented as a gay liberal, or maybe they would be trannys. (Pre op)

If I was a liberal I would stand up for what I believe in! *crickets* Oh wait liberals dont believe in anything. There only beliefs is they want an abortion.

If I was a liberal, I would NOT heed the words of my father who used to remind me always, "sonny, in Philadelphia theres a bell called the liberty bell and it stands for liberty." Those were wise words but the libs seem to have forgotten.

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