zabadu: ///tired of the birthers who are really KKK in disguise.

Sadly, I don't think that's the case.

The Birthers are simply too insane to have a reason to hate Obama like the color of his skin.

More likely, they think he's one of the Greys.

/Or possibly one of the Blues. There are blue aliens, right?
//I mean, people think that, right? It's one of the standard races?

apistat: Meh, this is boring. The real fun comes from that crazy blogger who made an enormous post "proving" that Obama's real father was Malcolm X.

There was another one "proving" it was Frank someone..hang on..."Frank Marshall Davis".

This is obviously false.

His real father was G!t-opnarth, the reptilian consul from Beta Aurigae.

boobsrgood: I have actually printed up these stickers and now go around to burger joints putting them on all the straw dispensers. I was well worth the $50.

Wow, seriously? I made that.

boomerzz

Helen Thomas has become a sad joke.

KarmicDisaster: Especially a male doctor, you would think that he would remember giving birth.

I imagine that's worse than kidney stones. Of course, reptilian hybrids are sort of snake shaped when they emerge, so maybe it wasn't so bad.

erewhon: Chuck Wagon: Because his mother was a citizen, no matter where Obama was born he would be a natural born citizen.

He could have renounced his citizenship, or his mother could have renounced hers prior to delivery, and that would obviate this. Another one of the tortuous arguments from that birther site. I suspect it's at least technically true. In that case, you'd have to get proof from the State Department, or if he popped up with citizenship in a country that requires renunciation it would be "proof" that he had renounced. Sort of.

Wouldn't his mother have to first gain citizenship from another country? I could renounce citizenship right now, but since I still live in the U.S. and can't claim any other citizenship, it doesn't mean anything.

I love BIRTHER threads.

I love it that one of the leaders of the birthers is named ORLY Taitz. It's much like the fact that one of the biggest Shakespeare authorship cranks was named John Thomas LOONEY. The universe occasionally has a good sense of humor.

/O RLY?
//YA RLY!

Baby Diego: Helen Thomas has become a sad joke.

Integrity is a dangerous thing.

It's why Bukharin had to resist Stalin, even though he had no power to do so... and was killed for his trouble.

It's why Helen Thomas had to question the whole rigamarole... she was brave and courageous when she nettled the Bush Administration, but now she's a "sad joke".

SkinnyHead: Rather than ridicule the 400,000 citizens who have asked to see the original Certificate of Live Birth, why doesn't Obama just authorize release of that document? His stubborn refusal to do so is perpetuating the issue.

Why have you not released proof of your G.E.D. in Law? Your stubborn refusal is just perpetuating the issue.

emilyek_1: He's the son of a foreign national.

The inquiry is completely valid.

Also, it's precisely the kind of thing that Leftists would feel it was OK to lie about or obfuscate, since having to be born in the United States to be President is just too restrictive and Far Right a notion.

I'll just leave this here.

Jmast7: I'm actually kind of amazed Gibbs took a question from WND. Sure, you can laugh at him, but it's a complete waste of time.

I would take that question every day.

It's just shows America the right wings main voices are crazy loons.

SkinnyHead: Rather than ridicule the 400,000 citizens who have asked to see the original Certificate of Live Birth, why doesn't Obama just authorize release of that document? His stubborn refusal to do so is perpetuating the issue.

I know I shouldn't be responding to you, and it's pointless to bother, but I think it needs to be reinforced here.

He has responded. What was at first a quasi-legitimate concern, and a semi-fair question (even if it was just a veiled way of saying "no n*ggers in the white house") was answered succinctly, and honestly, and proved their theories had no basis in reality.

Every time it is addressed, the conspiracy gets deeper and deeper in the birfer's minds. The St. Pete Times does a better job of summing up the ridiculousness of the conspiracy in saying that the state DOH would have to place ads in two separate Hawaii newspapers announcing a native birth (placing the baby under jus soli citizenship, whether or not his parents were citizens) on the off chance that this one baby in hundreds of millions might eventually want to run for and become President of the United States.

In case you're wondering at the depth of the ridiculousness of that, in the year of Barack Obama's birth, 1961, the US population was 183,691,481 and growing. The Hawaii DOH would have to conspire to make one baby in a population of 183,691,481, plus the population growth of 35 years, the minimum age to be president, be eligible. Assuming no population growth over the period of eligibility, that's still only 0.000000544391059702981% chance he will ever attain that, predicted a minimum of 35 years in advance, hoping he attains qualifications, avoids an early death, etc.

That's one hell of a retarded conspiracy.

So why ridicule them? Because it is ridiculous. That's why. When you do something that is ridiculous, and I can't believe I have to point this out to you, it is inherently worthy of ridicule. Do you ask why we laud people who do laudable things, too?

AspectRatio: Wow, seriously? I made that.

And you, sir, kick major ass. Yes, and thank you. I'm going back to the printer for a second batch in a few days.

You are THAT creative.

KarmicDisaster: Especially a male doctor, you would think that he would remember giving birth.

The doctor is a seahorse, obviously.

Baby Diego: boomerzz

Helen Thomas has become a sad joke.

Where have you been for the last 10 years?

My father is a rabid, froth-jawed birther and it shames me to think I'm related, let alone descended, from anyone so ignorant and hateful, especially after the flap 8 1/2 years ago about "Sore/Loserman" and all that. I and most folks I know on the wrong side of that election stopped biatching about it once W was sworn in, got behind him, crossed our fingers and said "meh, how bad could he possibly be?"

\the horror
\\the horror

Please right wing, keep of the good worker of spending money on promoting yourselves as looking like tin foil hate crazies!!

You guys do better work help the Demos out than the DNC could ever do!!


Keep up the good work!!


And while I'm at it: remember Don't answer the census! It's being run by ACORN and is going to be used by Obama to round you up!!

To be a birther, not only do you have to convince yourself Obama is not American, you also must convince yourself that the most powerful people in the world have somehow made a mistake and allowed him to take over, and that you, a trailer trash loser has the true answer.

Random question about the supposed video of his grandma saying she saw him born in Kenya, are there any actual copies of this video for people to view, or like the "whitey" video has this only been seen by everyone's mother's cousin's coworker?

I like that the nutjobs are sticking with their campaign about Obama's birth certificate. It's a total waste of time and money on their part and it keeps them from doing something that might have an impact in reality. I wish Obama would 'accidentially' make a verbal slip-up about his time as a youth in Kenya or something similar to keep them going.

Vangor: Not too restrictive, but, in such an age where people in Washington state know what is happening in Washington D.C. a second after it occurs, what subterfuge could a foreign national actually perform which is more harmful than embroiling us in a five year military conflict?

Hey, buddy, get back to me in three years when you hear that ol' muezzin a'singin' from where Antioch Baptist used to be.

It's even harder to sing Adhan in Reptilian-1 than it is in Arabic.

Befuddled: I like that the nutjobs are sticking with their campaign about Obama's birth certificate. It's a total waste of time and money on their part and it keeps them from doing something that might have an impact in reality. I wish Obama would 'accidentially' make a verbal slip-up about his time as a youth in Kenya or something similar to keep them going.

I wish this were true. The Vince Foster murder thing kept the fringe boiling over for years.

Ahh the loony right wing. How could we forget some of these:


Remember when Bill Clinton was going to declare martial law?

Remember the "get whitey" video that is going to be released tomorrow? Honest? really?

How many times do you need to be lied to until you start thinking its bullshiat?

Chuck Wagon: Wouldn't his mother have to first gain citizenship from another country? I could renounce citizenship right now, but since I still live in the U.S. and can't claim any other citizenship, it doesn't mean anything.

Isn't that one of the birther theories? That she renounced for Indonesian citizenship?

I think you CAN just renounce, it's one of the things the no-tax nutters used to do; maybe they still do. It leaves you in a really oddball legal state though.

French Rage: Random question about the supposed video of his grandma saying she saw him born in Kenya, are there any actual copies of this video for people to view, or like the "whitey" video has this only been seen by everyone's mother's cousin's coworker?

There are a few copies uploaded to the Internet, but Obama's ACORN thugs constantly replace the video with footage of Rick Astley singing "Never Gonna Give You Up." Orly and I are still trying to figure out who's behind this dastardly conspiracy and what Astley's connection to it is!

Dr. Mojo PhD: That's one hell of a retarded conspiracy.

B-b-b-but skull and bones...

Corvus: Remember the "get whitey" video that is going to be released tomorrow? Honest? really?

Oh yeah... I had forgotten about that one.

apistat: Meh, this is boring. The real fun comes from that crazy blogger who made an enormous post "proving" that Obama's real father was Malcolm X.

The best part of that theory is that she claimed that Obama was born in Seattle. Malcolm X was a US citizen. Dunham was a US citizen. Seattle--someone help me out here, what country is Seattle in?

So a man is born in the US to two US citizen parents.

OMG! He's not a US citizen! It's so obvious!

erewhon: Chuck Wagon: Wouldn't his mother have to first gain citizenship from another country? I could renounce citizenship right now, but since I still live in the U.S. and can't claim any other citizenship, it doesn't mean anything.

Isn't that one of the birther theories? That she renounced for Indonesian citizenship?

I think you CAN just renounce, it's one of the things the no-tax nutters used to do; maybe they still do. It leaves you in a really oddball legal state though.

The people who do it think it puts them in a weird legal state, but no one else does. The courts just ignore their crap and treat them like everyone else. It's just like the people who copyright their names and then sue everyone who prints their names. The cases get tossed almost as soon as their filed.

erewhon: Isn't that one of the birther theories? That she renounced for Indonesian citizenship?

Doesn't matter who renounced what. Jus soli guaranteed then, as it does now, that any child born on US soil was a US citizen.

From the XIV Amendment:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Both his mother and father could have announced they were Moon Men from the Planet X, and she pops him out of her vagoo in the Aloha State, the boy's a red-blooded American.

The_Gallant_Gallstone

It's why Helen Thomas had to question the whole rigamarole... she was brave and courageous when she nettled the Bush Administration, but now she's a "sad joke".

Yeah, she should keep fighting to bring back the glory days of a gallery of press people shouting over each other just to be ignored by the Administration regardless. Good times.

The Administration is controlling the press? Give me a farking break.

Corvus: Jmast7: I'm actually kind of amazed Gibbs took a question from WND. Sure, you can laugh at him, but it's a complete waste of time.

I would take that question every day.

It's just shows America the right wings main voices are crazy loons.

This. The 9/11 truthers weren't backed by The Huffinton Post or even Moveon. They were freelance loons. The Republicans have taken to mainstreaming their lunatics. And now the lunatics have taken control. I keep waiting for a somewhat reasonable fiscal conservative to challenge for control of the party, but all the contenders seem content to kiss Rush's ring. It's going to be interesting to see what happens in 15 or 20 years when the Republican party wakes up to find itself completely irrelevant.

Dr. Mojo PhD also hit it out of the park.

Renart: I love it that one of the leaders of the birthers is named ORLY Taitz. It's much like the fact that one of the biggest Shakespeare authorship cranks was named John Thomas LOONEY. The universe occasionally has a good sense of humor.

/O RLY?
//YA RLY!

Another of the birthers is a real Kreep

Corvus:

Remember when Bill Clinton was going to declare martial law?

He did.

When did you first start noticing all the cops in paramilitary drag, eh? When did they stop being Officer Friendly? When Billy boy signed that martial law declaration, that's when!

Well, buddy, little did you know it, but the cops are slowly being replaced by military. Brain-washed, child-killing, military. The entire Iraq thing was just to get them enough trigger time so that they'd be totally heartless, and well practiced.

Soon, very soon, you'll be rounded up and put in FEMA death camps. The Rothschilds and Bilderbergers are tired of people like you taking up room in their big US National Park that's coming. The reptilians like a nice tidy preserve.

/tacamars, man, tacamars
//follow them to the local FEMA camp, you'll see

These retards are just as bad as the morons that complianed that Bush never showed up for gaurd duty.

Why can't they see that?

I feel embarassed for them, becuase while the rest of the country is busy moving forward they will be gathering, scheming and distracting their idological brethren from actual important stuff.

emilyek_1: He's the son of a foreign national.

The inquiry is completely valid.

Also, it's precisely the kind of thing that Leftists would feel it was OK to lie about or obfuscate, since having to be born in the United States to be President is just too restrictive and Far Right a notion.

Isn't it members of the Right who want Ahnold to be President? And he definitely not born in this country, amIright? So this is not a Leftist position, as you seem to think. It is the position of whatever minority party has an immigrant they want in office.

Dr. Mojo PhD: Jus soli guaranteed then, as it does now, that any child born on US soil was a US citizen.

Pfft. What makes you think he was born in Hawaii? There are none so blind as those who cannot see, sheeple-boy.

/What does it say about the citizenship of reptilian hybrids?

erewhon: Hey, buddy, get back to me in three years when you hear that ol' muezzin a'singin' from where Antioch Baptist used to be.

It's even harder to sing Adhan in Reptilian-1 than it is in Arabic.

What? I believe you're being sarcastic, but I don't know what about...

andrewagill: Renart: I love it that one of the leaders of the birthers is named ORLY Taitz. It's much like the fact that one of the biggest Shakespeare authorship cranks was named John Thomas LOONEY. The universe occasionally has a good sense of humor.

/O RLY?
//YA RLY!

Another of the birthers is a real Kreep

Haha, perfect!

House of Tards: c) You've got so many strawmen that you attack, it looks like you're being gangbanged in a cornfield.

I lol'd

My aunt and uncle are one of those people who question his birth. They sent me all the WND articles about it after I told them this was a stupid conspiracy.

/I also found out they don't believe in EVOLUTION :(

//Why, yes they are republicans.

Baby Diego: Yeah, she should keep fighting to bring back the glory days of a gallery of press people shouting over each other just to be ignored by the Administration regardless. Good times.

If you want to choose your questions beforehand, that's fine... just don't have the audacity to call that event a "town hall meeting".

Those "town hall meetings" were a crock when McCain ran them as a candidate... they're a crock now that Obama is running them as our President.

Doctor Funkenstein: More than a year later, the debate continues to rage on the Internet among the "Birthers" movement

I don't think stupid qualifies as a movement.

*shrugs* I don't know? It got Obama elected in the first place.

SkinnyHead: Rather than ridicule the 400,000 citizens who have asked to see the original Certificate of Live Birth, why doesn't Obama just authorize release of that document? His stubborn refusal to do so is perpetuating the issue.

It was released, here is a link to it: HERE (new window)


Now are you going to admit you're misinformed?



Or are you just a farking troll or a moron?

Chuck Wagon: The courts just ignore their crap and treat them like everyone else. It's just like the people who copyright their names and then sue everyone who prints their names. The cases get tossed almost as soon as their filed.

Just don't step into the "boat" at the admiralty court and they can't touch you. You obviously also need to renounce your corporate UCC identity, you know the one that's in all caps?

litmus tests for stupid do tend to have their conversational advantages.

So, even if this crap was true, what's the endgame?

We'd have President Biden. Does anyone want that? Really?

erewhon: Pfft. What makes you think he was born in Hawaii? There are none so blind as those who cannot see, sheeple-boy.

/What does it say about the citizenship of reptilian hybrids?

Well, I guess if they're hybrids they're part people, so they're still covered by Amendment XIV. I'm pretty sure the hybrids are ok. The actual full-on Reptilians might be in legal limbo though. I'm sure the Free Masons and the Illuminati, acting on behalf of the Majestic-12 liaison group for intergovernmental memorandums between Earth-based governments and the Empire of the Draco Constellation will be the eyes and ears until the Constitutional Amendments can be eroded; there's a reason the people who put the all-seeing eye on everything in America didn't write that gibberish into the Constitution, after all. Had to be added later, by subversive pro-human rebels who saw the TRUTH!

Doctor Funkenstein:

"I don't think stupid qualifies as a movement."

of course it does. it got obama elected, didn't it?

/but birthers are indeed a whole new level of retard