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Impasse 2009-07-02 02:22:26 PM  
You should use Ruby, not Python, due to Ruby's POLS (Principle of Least Strangulation)

 
ShamanGator 2009-07-02 02:22:52 PM  
sendnoodz: OK am I the only one calling potential shenagins on this story?

Growing up I used to work in exotic pet stores and zoo's and have way more then a basic understanding of herpetology. I have worked with many Burmese pythons over the years and a lot about this story does not make sense to me. The first thing that strikes me funny about this incident is why the python would be in the babys crib, this was most likely a captive bred animal and has been raised as a "pet" for many years, its diet is mostly like either live or frozen feeder rats, and from the look of the snake in the picture it was in good health and did not appear to be underfed, so if the snake did out it would not be actively searching for food and if in fact the snake did somehow decide to climb up into a crib with a baby rather then find someplace dark to hide in the baby would be way too large for the snake to eat and the snake would know this you can see from the size of the snake that there is now way a Burmese python that size could eat a two year old child, a Burmese python is not going to try to constrict something it cant eat, if it feels threaten it will bite then try to get away. Now if for some reason the snake did in fact try to eat this baby which is the only way it would constrict it and kill, it would strike first (bite) then wrap its body around the baby, this bite would be very painful and the baby would immediately wake up and start crying and screaming and the constriction process takes a bit of time, as the snakes victim breaths out the snake wraps tighter and tighter until its prey can no longer breath this can take many minutes so someone would have had to have heard this happening, yet they say they found the baby dead in the morning and that it had been crushed by the snake.

I don't think its too far fetched to believe some hilly billy parents might have intentionally or unintentionally killed there kid and then blamed it on the pet snake.

I really hate to say it but I thought the same thing.


I also wondered what caused it to strike a sleeping anything. When I feed my ball python I need to make the rat look alive & have it move. Snakes have bad eye site & strike at the movement of the prey.

Many strange questions to be answered here.

 
spacechicken170am 2009-07-02 02:23:32 PM  
Fibber McLiarson: spacechicken170am: Over the 37-year period from 1965-2001, pit bulls have been blamed for an average of 2.48 human fatalities per year.

- You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

- 25 times more children a killed by faulty cribs the total number of children and adults killed by pit bulls.

- You are more than 60 times more likely to be killed by a palm tree than a pit bull.

- You are 151 times more likely to be killed by your bathtub than you are by a pit bull.

- A child is more than 800 times more likely to be killed by their adult caretaker than by a pit bull.

- Medication errors cause 7000 Deaths per year.. so you're 3000 times more likely to be killed by your medication than an APBT

- An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors... 87000 times higher than fatalities by APBTs

- National Weather Service reports that over the last 30 years the U.S. has averaged 62 reported lightning fatalities per year.. 30 times more than those by APBTs

OK, but what about the fact that they're UGLIER THAN HOMEMADE FARKING SIN?


Well that depends. Some people dock their ears and tails and put them on exercise routines so they look like an east german swimmer from the good ol days. The natural look for an ABPT isn't bad at all. They are a big terrier. They are smart and can be trained pretty easily. Granted most pitbulls are owned by idiots with small weeners there are a lot of people who want a big dog that's not as dumb as a bag of rocks. I'd prefer if pitbulls were not banned but regulated. I think all large male dogs not kept by breeders should be required to be neutered. They are rrespnsible for over 80% of dog bite fatalities.

caninecoalition.com

//what a pitbull should look like

 
holmer 2009-07-02 02:23:52 PM  
tasthesose2: notmtwain: I heard some python guys used to nail their pets to their perch. That might have helped in this case.

Ya but that is strictly for the Norwegian Blues. Beautiful plumage on them but if you dont nail them down they will muscle open the bars and fly right out of the cage

/cheese shop is my 2nd favorite


Cheese shop is the best followed by the undertaker IMNSHO.

 
Point02GPA [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 02:24:48 PM  
Can you feed python snakes cats and pit bulls?

 
origami_girl [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 02:25:00 PM  
Typhoid: Then once it became so big I knew I wouldn't be able to defeat it, it went bye-bye.

What did you do with it? Are there rescue organizations for snakes that got too big? I am just curious.

 
maxximillian 2009-07-02 02:25:02 PM  
A quote from the great father:
"our stupid snake got out in the middle of the night and strangled the baby!"

Shouldn't it be more like: our THE stupid snake got out in the middle of the night and strangled the OUR baby!"

Maybe I pay attention too much to the smallest details of a persons words but that just seems to be a bad way to word things. Like your priorities are all wrong. Course in this case I think the priorities were all wrong.

 
nopokerface [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 02:25:35 PM  
I agree. Fat f*ck dad, and/or fat f*ck mom rolled over on the kid while she was sleeping in their bed. Both too drunk to be roused by her squirms and cries. When they come to, she's dead. Put the body in the crib, stab the snake and call 911.

 
PeterPipersPickledPecker 2009-07-02 02:25:41 PM  
Emrick: spacechicken170am: - You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

So? What point do you think you are making?


Lock your pit bull in the medicine closet or it will drug and rape you...

 
spacechicken170am 2009-07-02 02:26:04 PM  
radinator: spacechicken170am:
- You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.
- 25 times more children a killed by faulty cribs the total number of children and adults killed by pit bulls.
- You are more than 60 times more likely to be killed by a palm tree than a pit bull.
- You are 151 times more likely to be killed by your bathtub than you are by a pit bull.
- A child is more than 800 times more likely to be killed by their adult caretaker than by a pit bull.
- Medication errors cause 7000 Deaths per year.. so you're 3000 times more likely to be killed by your medication than an APBT
- An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors... 87000 times higher than fatalities by APBTs
- National Weather Service reports that over the last 30 years the U.S. has averaged 62 reported lightning fatalities per year.. 30 times more than those by APBTs

Sure, deaths aren't that common.

But how many times has an aspirin mauled someone?
Faulty cribs?
Palm trees?
Bathtubs?
...

//Haven't yet seen a pit-bull owner who doesn't seem to be trying to compensate for a small penis and trying to look street tough.


apbt.files.wordpress.com

/yeah, she's hung like a tic tac

 
voodoohotdog 2009-07-02 02:26:51 PM  
sigdiamond2000 [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 10:45:08 AM
I've never met anyone who owned a large snake that didn't have some sort of major personality disorder.

Agreed.

One of my room mates in university had snakes. And cars with long hoods. And long guns. (no pistols thank you) And motorcycles.

Dude was so over compensating it was ridiculous.

One thing I did learn from looking after them while he was a away. Pythons will kill if it gets in its way. May not even eat it.

 
Devil's Playground [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 02:26:57 PM  
i674.photobucket.com

Miss Jones Approves

 
nopokerface [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 02:27:36 PM  
spacechicken170am: she's hung like a tic tac

Dude, that's her brain.

 
peachgirl 2009-07-02 02:27:37 PM  
spacechicken170am:

Over the 37-year period from 1965-2001, pit bulls have been blamed for an average of 2.48 human fatalities per year.

- You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

- 25 times more children a killed by faulty cribs the total number of children and adults killed by pit bulls.

- You are more than 60 times more likely to be killed by a palm tree than a pit bull.

- You are 151 times more likely to be killed by your bathtub than you are by a pit bull.

- A child is more than 800 times more likely to be killed by their adult caretaker than by a pit bull.

- Medication errors cause 7000 Deaths per year.. so you're 3000 times more likely to be killed by your medication than an APBT

- An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors... 87000 times higher than fatalities by APBTs

- National Weather Service reports that over the last 30 years the U.S. has averaged 62 reported lightning fatalities per year.. 30 times more than those by APBTs


How many people have pit bulls? I can think of two in the thousands of people I know.
How many people use medicine, go outside, put their baby in a crib, take baths, have adults watching children, etc.?
I'm not saying pitbulls are bad. All of the ones I've met have been nice. Just saying your proofs of things more likely to kill people are things that more people do, more often, than own a pitbull.

 
spacechicken170am 2009-07-02 02:28:51 PM  
Emrick: spacechicken170am: - You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

So? What point do you think you are making?


How about the point that pitbull attacks are very rare and there's a bunch of other things you need to watch out for before you have to worry about pitbulls?

 
zabadu 2009-07-02 02:29:16 PM  
spacechicken170am: theoriginalslash: Who could have foreseen that having a large predator in the same house as a small, vulnerable child could lead to tragedy?

Pit bulls, pythons... it's too bad more states don't allow people to keep big cats and bears in their homes, we'd be treated to stories about parents playing tug-of-war with their carnivorous pets using their children's lifeless bodies.

I think your kid almost getting eaten by a pet is nature's way of saying "Don't breed," but that's just me.

Pomeranian Kills 6-Week-Old Girl
September 21, 2001

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A small Pomeranian dog killed a 6-week-old baby while the infant's caretaker briefly left the child unattended to warm a bottle of milk, authorities said.

The relative, who was caring for the infant girl, found her head buried in the dog's mouth Saturday night, sheriff's Deputy Cruz Solis said. The girl died of head trauma at an area hospital, he said.

The baby's name was withheld because her parents were out of the country and had not been notified, Solis said.

The relative has not been charged. Animal control officers took the dog.

Pomeranians are a breed of miniature canines that have a foxlike face, pointy ears and long, fluffy hair. The deputy said Pomeranian attacks are rare.

``Obviously it doesn't take much to kill a 6-week old baby but it's not something that happens with that breed,' Solis said.


6 wk olds have soft, squishable heads.

 
Pmoon 2009-07-02 02:30:03 PM  
spacechicken170am: Emrick: spacechicken170am: - You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

So? What point do you think you are making?

How about the point that pitbull attacks are very rare and there's a bunch of other things you need to watch out for before you have to worry about pitbulls?


Investors?

 
Infernal Wedgie 2009-07-02 02:30:42 PM  
spacechicken170am: R.A.Danny: How is this for freedom- Everyone can have all the snakes, baboons, and pit bulls they want, but they need to cut off the little pricks they are compensating for so they can't procreate.

Over the 37-year period from 1965-2001, pit bulls have been blamed for an average of 2.48 human fatalities per year.

- You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

- 25 times more children a killed by faulty cribs the total number of children and adults killed by pit bulls.

- You are more than 60 times more likely to be killed by a palm tree than a pit bull.

- You are 151 times more likely to be killed by your bathtub than you are by a pit bull.

- A child is more than 800 times more likely to be killed by their adult caretaker than by a pit bull.

- Medication errors cause 7000 Deaths per year.. so you're 3000 times more likely to be killed by your medication than an APBT

- An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors... 87000 times higher than fatalities by APBTs

- National Weather Service reports that over the last 30 years the U.S. has averaged 62 reported lightning fatalities per year.. 30 times more than those by APBTs


Bnd should you be attacked by a dog, what is the relative risk that dog would happen to be a pit bull???

I'm a caniphobic statistician, and I disapprove of your statistical shenanigans.
/willing to bet RR>1

 
trueaustinite 2009-07-02 02:30:43 PM  
I dated this girl back in grad school. She had a couple of cats. She thought it was really cute how they would bat little objects around and simulate capturing and killing things.

She told me they loved her. I told her they didn't and explained that she would dead as farkin' fried chicken if she were to suddenly become two inches tall.

This caused her to have thoughts that she was uncomfortable with. So, like a typically narrow-minded person (she was but she was really hot) she ignored me altogether on this issue.

 
lukelightning 2009-07-02 02:33:18 PM  
Point02GPA: Can you feed python snakes cats and pit bulls?

First you feed the cat to the pit bull, then feed the pit bull to the snake. Then deep fry the whole thing. It's a Southern delicacy called pitsnakat.

 
John Buck 41 2009-07-02 02:33:32 PM  
RandomExcess: A snake ate my baby! (NZ accent)

Well...maybe. (Elaine Benes accent)

 
StopArrestingMe [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-02 02:34:35 PM  
As a father, this python would be lucky to slither away after doing something to MY daughter. I would take a bat to his face and then freakin shoot him HARD. If you harm a child you need to DIE plane and simple. Be forwarned, call me an ITG if you want but people who molest children are disgusting and have no morals and need to be tortured raped and killed by ME. These people are NOT even people there literally gnats. I am an AMERICAN MAN, a WASP, and a DAMN GOOD FATHER. I have many guns including a rocket launcher and I will use them all on you if you molest my duaghter Kitie after first castrating you with a butterfly knife and taking my sweet time. And do NOT talk to me from up there on your pedastal about how Im WRONG you can SHUT HELL UP pu@@y. Jet from this thread if it bothers you that much. Friggin birdbrain. Society has rules and if you doNt follow then you must be delt with. As Ghandi said "an eye for an eye".

 
syntaxic 2009-07-02 02:34:45 PM  
spacechicken170am:
//what a pitbull should look like


Agree 100%. They look so much better if people don't fark with the ears and tails.

In regards to speculation that maybe the python wasn't responsible for the death, I'm sure if that's the case an autopsy will show that. After all, I'm sure there's a great difference in trauma between being crushed by a snake and whatever else people think may have happened.

 
vandelay 2009-07-02 02:35:02 PM  
origami_girl: Typhoid: Then once it became so big I knew I wouldn't be able to defeat it, it went bye-bye.

What did you do with it? Are there rescue organizations for snakes that got too big? I am just curious.


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gulogulo 2009-07-02 02:35:55 PM  
sendnoodz: OK am I the only one calling potential shenagins on this story?

Growing up I used to work in exotic pet stores and zoo's and have way more then a basic understanding of herpetology. I have worked with many Burmese pythons over the years and a lot about this story does not make sense to me. The first thing that strikes me funny about this incident is why the python would be in the babys crib, this was most likely a captive bred animal and has been raised as a "pet" for many years, its diet is mostly like either live or frozen feeder rats, and from the look of the snake in the picture it was in good health and did not appear to be underfed, so if the snake did out it would not be actively searching for food and if in fact the snake did somehow decide to climb up into a crib with a baby rather then find someplace dark to hide in the baby would be way too large for the snake to eat and the snake would know this you can see from the size of the snake that there is now way a Burmese python that size could eat a two year old child, a Burmese python is not going to try to constrict something it cant eat, if it feels threaten it will bite then try to get away. Now if for some reason the snake did in fact try to eat this baby which is the only way it would constrict it and kill, it would strike first (bite) then wrap its body around the baby, this bite would be very painful and the baby would immediately wake up and start crying and screaming and the constriction process takes a bit of time, as the snakes victim breaths out the snake wraps tighter and tighter until its prey can no longer breath this can take many minutes so someone would have had to have heard this happening, yet they say they found the baby dead in the morning and that it had been crushed by the snake.

I don't think its too far fetched to believe some hilly billy parents might have intentionally or unintentionally killed there kid and then blamed it on the pet snake.


Potential shennanigans, sure..anything is possible. Snakes do take on very large prey, and the size of that snake isn't completely out of the realm of taking a small toddler. It's impossible to tell its condition merely by its picture, or when its last meal was. They are opportunistic animals, not specialists, so that it always fed on mice and rats does not mean it is all it will feed on. Might of it bitten off more than it could chew? Sure, that happens too in the animal world. Also, the constriction process initially is /very/ fast, if you've seen it done. The snake needs to quickly immobilize it's prey to keep it from thrashing and hurting it in its death throws. The dying may be slow but the constriction is fast, and could in theory have kept the girl from drawing in enough breath to scream. Maybe she did make noise. maybe her parents were too drunk to hear.

There's a lot of maybes, and death-by-snake is by no means completely ruled out here. The autopsy, of course, will tell the tale.

 
davynelson 2009-07-02 02:37:44 PM  
wow

any parent that even has a cat or dog around babies/toddlers
is upping the risk factor by ten

any parent that has a burmese python around babies/toddlers
should be put to sleep for being too stupid to spawn

 
nopokerface [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 02:37:53 PM  
syntaxic: I'm sure there's a great difference in trauma between being crushed by a snake and whatever else people think may have happened.

Crushed between 2 giant fat ass pieces of white trash? I bet Quincy would be hard pressed to tell the difference.

 
fatcurlytoes 2009-07-02 02:38:26 PM  
R.A.Danny: How is this for freedom- Everyone can have all the snakes, baboons, and pit bulls they want, but they need to cut off the little pricks they are compensating for so they can't procreate.

Your newsletter, please.

 
upright_apes_r_us 2009-07-02 02:38:26 PM  
My right to do, to use, to obtain, or possess anything does not supersedes my responsibility to insure a child's best interests are not diminished by such acts.

 
spacechicken170am 2009-07-02 02:38:56 PM  
Infernal Wedgie: spacechicken170am: R.A.Danny: How is this for freedom- Everyone can have all the snakes, baboons, and pit bulls they want, but they need to cut off the little pricks they are compensating for so they can't procreate.

Over the 37-year period from 1965-2001, pit bulls have been blamed for an average of 2.48 human fatalities per year.

- You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

- 25 times more children a killed by faulty cribs the total number of children and adults killed by pit bulls.

- You are more than 60 times more likely to be killed by a palm tree than a pit bull.

- You are 151 times more likely to be killed by your bathtub than you are by a pit bull.

- A child is more than 800 times more likely to be killed by their adult caretaker than by a pit bull.

- Medication errors cause 7000 Deaths per year.. so you're 3000 times more likely to be killed by your medication than an APBT

- An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors... 87000 times higher than fatalities by APBTs

- National Weather Service reports that over the last 30 years the U.S. has averaged 62 reported lightning fatalities per year.. 30 times more than those by APBTs

Bnd should you be attacked by a dog, what is the relative risk that dog would happen to be a pit bull???

I'm a caniphobic statistician, and I disapprove of your statistical shenanigans.
/willing to bet RR>1


That depends are you actually going to define a pitbull as a pitbull or are you going to call anything with broad shoulders a pitbull type dog. The term pitbull type actually encompases over 40 different breeds of dog. See the trick is to lump all 42 of those breeds together into 1 breed. Then you list them along side other breeds consisting of 1 and only 1 breed. This greatly inflates the numbers. I disapprove of pitbull bite statistic shenanigans.

 
Penguin Death Squads 2009-07-02 02:40:46 PM  
Aww man, i submitted this with a FL tag AND

 
vandelay 2009-07-02 02:40:52 PM  
maxximillian: A quote from the great father:
"our stupid snake got out in the middle of the night and strangled the baby!"

Shouldn't it be more like: our THE stupid snake got out in the middle of the night and strangled the OUR baby!"

Maybe I pay attention too much to the smallest details of a persons words but that just seems to be a bad way to word things. Like your priorities are all wrong. Course in this case I think the priorities were all wrong.


I think he wants to give the impression that is was "our" snake, not "my" snake, in order to avoid full liability. I'm sure he spent some time after the kid died convincing the babby-mama that "we both thought the snake was cool to keep in the house, you know that."

 
John Buck 41 2009-07-02 02:41:01 PM  
Jackpot777: budsterr: That's some fine liberal parenting there, idiot. I hope he goes to prison and gets to meet someone's black mamba.

Gainesville? In Alachua County? These people may look like a lot of things, but University of Florida alumni isn't one of them.

He doesn't sound like college material, either (new window, 911 call in the video).


Ok, snarkiness aside, I do feel sorry for that family.

I wouldn't mind having a snake, but Mrs. Buck says 'negative'. Hate to use cliches, but as they say, "when Mrs. Buck is happy, everyone's happy."

 
Penguin Death Squads 2009-07-02 02:41:34 PM  
Penguin Death Squads: Aww man, i submitted this with a FL tag AND

a funnier headline.
/stupid me and enter key.

 
vandelay 2009-07-02 02:42:26 PM  
upright_apes_r_us: My right to do, to use, to obtain, or possess anything does not supersedes my responsibility to insure a child's best interests are not diminished by such acts.

Give the guy a break, it wasn't even his kid. Mom should've protected her child.

 
gulogulo 2009-07-02 02:42:46 PM  
StopArrestingMe: As a father, this python would be lucky to slither away after doing something to MY daughter. I would take a bat to his face and then freakin shoot him HARD. If you harm a child you need to DIE plane and simple. Be forwarned, call me an ITG if you want but people who molest children are disgusting and have no morals and need to be tortured raped and killed by ME. These people are NOT even people there literally gnats. I am an AMERICAN MAN, a WASP, and a DAMN GOOD FATHER. I have many guns including a rocket launcher and I will use them all on you if you molest my duaghter Kitie after first castrating you with a butterfly knife and taking my sweet time. And do NOT talk to me from up there on your pedastal about how Im WRONG you can SHUT HELL UP pu@@y. Jet from this thread if it bothers you that much. Friggin birdbrain. Society has rules and if you doNt follow then you must be delt with. As Ghandi said "an eye for an eye".

Things that fly?

 
asmodeusazarak 2009-07-02 02:43:31 PM  
DogS laughter: S

I don't think any cold blooded animal can really be called a pet. I've had tropical fish that would take food from my fingers, but I never thought of them as pets.


I had an iguana years ago that was a lot smarter and had a lot more personality than you might imagine. He was a great pet in every sense until he hit sexual maturity and then he got a little aggressive. Never real bad, but I no longer trusted him sitting on my shoulder and running around all the time. At least with iguanas there are definitely a lot of "pet" aspects, but in my experience cold blooded creatures have less ability to learn to over-ride instincts than most higher mammal pets do, but it also might just be the many hundreds of generations of domestication most typical mammalian "pet" species have been through.

 
santadog [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 02:43:32 PM  
spacechicken170am: Emrick: spacechicken170am: - You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

So? What point do you think you are making?

How about the point that pitbull attacks are very rare and there's a bunch of other things you need to watch out for before you have to worry about pitbulls?


Tell that to my blue heeler who was killed by one while we were on a vacation.
Tell that to my buddy's blue heeler that was killed by a pit bull that grew up with the heeler, then suddenly turned.
Tell that to my friend's Silky who had the skin shook off it when a Pitbull attacked it at a dog park.
Tell that to my friend who has a daughter that played with the pitbull all the time since it was a pup, until one day it turned on the little girl and mauled her arm.
Tell that to ME after a pitbull chased me down on a scooter.

That was all with in the span of 3 years.
Rare my ass.

 
Donor 2009-07-02 02:44:52 PM  
radinator: spacechicken170am:
- You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.
- 25 times more children a killed by faulty cribs the total number of children and adults killed by pit bulls.
- You are more than 60 times more likely to be killed by a palm tree than a pit bull.
- You are 151 times more likely to be killed by your bathtub than you are by a pit bull.
- A child is more than 800 times more likely to be killed by their adult caretaker than by a pit bull.
- Medication errors cause 7000 Deaths per year.. so you're 3000 times more likely to be killed by your medication than an APBT
- An average of 195,000 people in the USA died due to potentially preventable, in-hospital medical errors... 87000 times higher than fatalities by APBTs
- National Weather Service reports that over the last 30 years the U.S. has averaged 62 reported lightning fatalities per year.. 30 times more than those by APBTs

Sure, deaths aren't that common.

But how many times has an aspirin mauled someone?
Faulty cribs?
Palm trees?
Bathtubs?
...

//Haven't yet seen a pit-bull owner who doesn't seem to be trying to compensate for a small penis and trying to look street tough.


My GF, while on the way to work one day, saw a red-nose pit running through traffic. She got out of her car, got the dog out of traffic, and into the back seat of her car. She dumped it off at my apartment then went to work. I gave it a bath and found a friend that was willing to take her in and she has been living happily ever since. She doesn't need to be on a chain, she has trained very well since my friend took after looking after her.

Then again maybe these killer pit bulls have a soft spot for blonde white women, or slightly PO'd BFs that have to give them a bath at 8 in the morning so they don't stink up the house, or random Joe whoever that decides to take them in and take care of them.

 
plastroncafe 2009-07-02 02:45:33 PM  
As a reptile owner, I can assure you I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

 
Resin33 2009-07-02 02:45:34 PM  
They were talking about this case on the local radio today and the guy's brother in law called in.

Apparently it is the wife's snake, not his. He was just the one that found it wrapped around the kid. Also, it was kept in a large aquarium with a piece of wood up top with stuff stacked on top of it.

This apparently is very heartbreaking for the guy cause he lost a child a few years ago to spinal meningitis or something. The 911 call is very sad, too.

 
chetbango 2009-07-02 02:45:53 PM  
sendnoodz: OK am I the only one calling potential shenagins on this story?

Growing up I used to work in exotic pet stores and zoo's and have way more then a basic understanding of herpetology. I have worked with many Burmese pythons over the years and a lot about this story does not make sense to me. The first thing that strikes me funny about this incident is why the python would be in the babys crib, this was most likely a captive bred animal and has been raised as a "pet" for many years, its diet is mostly like either live or frozen feeder rats, and from the look of the snake in the picture it was in good health and did not appear to be underfed, so if the snake did out it would not be actively searching for food and if in fact the snake did somehow decide to climb up into a crib with a baby rather then find someplace dark to hide in the baby would be way too large for the snake to eat and the snake would know this you can see from the size of the snake that there is now way a Burmese python that size could eat a two year old child, a Burmese python is not going to try to constrict something it cant eat, if it feels threaten it will bite then try to get away. Now if for some reason the snake did in fact try to eat this baby which is the only way it would constrict it and kill, it would strike first (bite) then wrap its body around the baby, this bite would be very painful and the baby would immediately wake up and start crying and screaming and the constriction process takes a bit of time, as the snakes victim breaths out the snake wraps tighter and tighter until its prey can no longer breath this can take many minutes so someone would have had to have heard this happening, yet they say they found the baby dead in the morning and that it had been crushed by the snake.

I don't think its too far fetched to believe some hilly billy parents might have intentionally or unintentionally killed there kid and then blamed it on the pet snake.


I thought something similar, although I don't know much about snakes, just that an 8foot snake would have a hard time eating a toddler.

 
Bob16 2009-07-02 02:46:09 PM  
I found it amusing that he called the snake stupid.

 
Emrick 2009-07-02 02:47:38 PM  
spacechicken170am: Emrick: spacechicken170am: - You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

So? What point do you think you are making?

How about the point that pitbull attacks are very rare and there's a bunch of other things you need to watch out for before you have to worry about pitbulls?


The number of pitbulls in the country is tiny compared to the number of aspirin doses taken every year. You may want to recalculate your risk equation.

 
ocelot 2009-07-02 02:48:17 PM  
Pit bulls are great! (for target practice)

 
Pmoon 2009-07-02 02:48:31 PM  
Resin33: They were talking about this case on the local radio today and the guy's brother in law called in.

Apparently it is the wife's snake, not his. He was just the one that found it wrapped around the kid. Also, it was kept in a large aquarium with a piece of wood up top with stuff stacked on top of it.

This apparently is very heartbreaking for the guy cause he lost a child a few years ago to spinal meningitis or something. The 911 call is very sad, too.


I heard the 911 call and it did sound very real and very sad. But I still wondered about the circumstances based on my experience with snakes and the comments of others here who are knowledgable.

 
Massa Damnata 2009-07-02 02:48:56 PM  
Incidently, once a large constritor starts to lay itself out lengthwise in your presence, you know that it is measuring itself to see if it is long enough to eat you.

/or so i have heard

 
Donor 2009-07-02 02:49:47 PM  
santadog: spacechicken170am: Emrick: spacechicken170am: - You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

So? What point do you think you are making?

How about the point that pitbull attacks are very rare and there's a bunch of other things you need to watch out for before you have to worry about pitbulls?

Tell that to my blue heeler who was killed by one while we were on a vacation.
Tell that to my buddy's blue heeler that was killed by a pit bull that grew up with the heeler, then suddenly turned.
Tell that to my friend's Silky who had the skin shook off it when a Pitbull attacked it at a dog park.
Tell that to my friend who has a daughter that played with the pitbull all the time since it was a pup, until one day it turned on the little girl and mauled her arm.
Tell that to ME after a pitbull chased me down on a scooter.

That was all with in the span of 3 years.
Rare my ass.


You should be mad at the owners for not training the animal, not the animal for being an animal. Most owners get pitbulls as a "guard-dog", but most lack the ability to effectively train them.

 
Iforgot 2009-07-02 02:49:59 PM  
StopArrestingMe: As a father, this python would be lucky to slither away after doing something to MY daughter. I would take a bat to his face and then freakin shoot him HARD. If you harm a child you need to DIE plane and simple. Be forwarned, call me an ITG if you want but people who molest children are disgusting and have no morals and need to be tortured raped and killed by ME. These people are NOT even people there literally gnats. I am an AMERICAN MAN, a WASP, and a DAMN GOOD FATHER. I have many guns including a rocket launcher and I will use them all on you if you molest my duaghter Kitie after first castrating you with a butterfly knife and taking my sweet time. And do NOT talk to me from up there on your pedastal about how Im WRONG you can SHUT HELL UP pu@@y. Jet from this thread if it bothers you that much. Friggin birdbrain. Society has rules and if you doNt follow then you must be delt with. As Ghandi said "an eye for an eye".


Capitalized Words?

 
spacechicken170am 2009-07-02 02:51:07 PM  
Emrick: spacechicken170am: Emrick: spacechicken170am: - You are than 200 times more likely to die from taking aspirin than from a pit bull attack.

So? What point do you think you are making?

How about the point that pitbull attacks are very rare and there's a bunch of other things you need to watch out for before you have to worry about pitbulls?

The number of pitbulls in the country is tiny compared to the number of aspirin doses taken every year. You may want to recalculate your risk equation.


Do you want to recalculate the distance of which the point flew over your head?

 
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