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(Wall Street Journal) Obvious From the GOP: It's official, Michele Bachmann has gone full retard   (blogs.wsj.com) divider line 386
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Mr. Coffee Nerves [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:00:35 AM  
MindStalker: Mr. Coffee Nerves: Of course, given Bachmann's proven delusions and sociopathy, this action by these other lawmakers will only drive her to higher levels of drooling insanity and "justify" her belief that ACORN has infiltrated the Census process at the highest levels.

Which, gotta admit, is going to be even more entertaining.

I've said it before, but Bachmann doesn't scare me. What DOES scare me that there are hundreds of thousands of Minnesotans who look deep into her Manson Lamps, listen to her make outrageous statements and say "We need to send that woman back to Washington, D.C. for another term! You betcha!"

She only represents the 6th district of Minnesota (St. Cloud, Andover, and surrounding areas and lake). The rest of Minnesota sent Democrats and they did finally send Franken.


I didn't mean to imply I was bashing every Minnesotan for Bachmann -- sorry if that's how it came across. I'm just referring to those of her roughly 600,000 constituents that think she's worth re-electing.

Figure of those 600k residents 300k are eligible and registered to vote, and of that 300k there are 125k who would vote D no matter what and 125k whowould vote R no matter what.

I'm talking about the 125,000 "R or DIE" voters plus those of the 50,000 swing votes that sent her back. THOSE are the ones who need to crush a little more tinfoil on their antennae, because there's some heavy interference.

 
The Onanist [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:01:36 AM  
what_now: Heh. Tempting.

The offer will stand. I'd even drive you up to her compound if need be.

 
namatad [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:02:47 AM  
Sygerrik: There's one, the Japanese internment thing that keeps coming up. One example. And they passed a law shortly thereafter to prevent that ever happening again.

yah
and that was 60+ years ago, one of the most shameful things done by our government, and, that is your only example??

I would rather point out the gerimandering which goes on.
creating districts which are racially or polically slanted makes we want to puke.

/and I have never voted for the GOP
/fricking both sides play this game, no wonder there will never be a 3rd party

 
Flab [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:03:26 AM  
t3knomanser: and they're only constrained by things like the 5th Amendment, meaning they can't accuse you of a crime based on your responses

Which is exactly what she gave as a reason for not answering. Her grasp of the Constitution is quite amazing.

 
Abstruse [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:03:30 AM  
what_now: naviguesser: . The census survey is 28 pages, and asks very detailed information that is none of the government's business, and has nothing to do with census requirements.

1). The Census that everyone has to fill out is 10 TIMES SHORTER THAN THE LAST ONE!!!!

2). The American Community Survey will be mailed out to a small percentage of the population.

There are three new questions:
1) Health Insurance Coverage
2) Marital History
3) VA Service-Connected Disability Rating.

Which of these THREE NEW QUESTIONS, upset you people so much?


The evil commie debil-worshiping muslim terrorist illegal homosexual America-hating questions!

/Duh.

 
ravenlore [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:04:47 AM  
The Onanist:

SNIP

(Wet bar in the basement).



Why are we not having the Fark Party at your house?!?

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:06:52 AM  
The Onanist: The offer will stand. I'd even drive you up to her compound if need be.

She has a compound?? Is it a scary crazy compound or a Kennedy like compound? Because I feel my resolve wavering if she has a ton of crazy well armed guards..

 
Davey Croquette [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:07:53 AM  
FTA: Bachmann has said she will answer only certain questions on the 2010 Census form because the Census Bureau has signed up Acorn, the liberal-leaning community group, to help publicize the census and recruit enumerators.

Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election fraud? Oh...Bama.

 
moralpanic 2009-07-02 11:09:26 AM  
Davey Croquette: FTA: Bachmann has said she will answer only certain questions on the 2010 Census form because the Census Bureau has signed up Acorn, the liberal-leaning community group, to help publicize the census and recruit enumerators.

Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election fraud? Oh...Bama.


You know, just because you heard it on Fox News doesn't mean it's true.

 
ToxicMunkee [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:09:41 AM  
aimtastic: naviguesser: Why would they need to know what time you leave and get home from work? That's one of the questions.

To determine if your local roads have more traffic at peak hours than they can readily handle, leading to construction projects that will alleviate traffic upon completion?


Exactly. The questions on the form weren't exactly pulled out of someone's butt.

 
syrynxx [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:10:26 AM  
The Onanist: Whoever ... willfully gives any answer that is false, shall be fined not more than $500.

What if I have someone use enhanced interrogation techniques to force me to give a false answer?

"Oh god- make it stop- ahhhhgh - I'm a transvestite! I worship the color yellow! I kidnapped the Lindbergh baby! I put the 'ram' in the 'ram-a-lam-a-ding-dong'!"

 
Dusk-You-n-Me [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:10:52 AM  
Davey Croquette: Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election registration fraud?

 
The Onanist [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:11:10 AM  
Mr. Coffee Nerves: I'm talking about the 125,000 "R or DIE" voters plus those of the 50,000 swing votes that sent her back. THOSE are the ones who need to crush a little more tinfoil on their antennae, because there's some heavy interference.

Well, to be fair, we rounded up most of the red-state nutters into her district. There are still a few just south of the Twin Cities as well (John Kline).

 
Sygerrik 2009-07-02 11:12:09 AM  
Davey Croquette: FTA: Bachmann has said she will answer only certain questions on the 2010 Census form because the Census Bureau has signed up Acorn, the liberal-leaning community group, to help publicize the census and recruit enumerators.

Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election fraud? Oh...Bama.


They wouldn't, and they didn't. Next question?

 
Zeppelininthesky [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:13:51 AM  
Davey Croquette: FTA: Bachmann has said she will answer only certain questions on the 2010 Census form because the Census Bureau has signed up Acorn, the liberal-leaning community group, to help publicize the census and recruit enumerators.

Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election fraud? Oh...Bama.


Oh noes!!Teh liberal devil worshiping muslin terrorists in ACORN is brainwashing our brave Republican real Americans with scary socialist questions!!

 
The Onanist [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:14:28 AM  
ravenlore: Why are we not having the Fark Party at your house?!?

Um, we CAN if you want...I'm only about a mile off the LRT by Nokomis. i have an HD LCD entertainment center and bubble hockey in my bar, too...and a grill.

 
Davey Croquette [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:15:04 AM  
Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election registration fraud?

Drivers' License Registration? No.

Car Registration? No.

Bridal Registration? No.

Voter Registration? YES.

You Obamapologists lack of skepticism is no better than the neo-freep giving GWB a free ride.

As you ponder what might be the "problem" with America realize it's you.

 
The Onanist [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:16:15 AM  
what_now: She has a compound?? Is it a scary crazy compound or a Kennedy like compound? Because I feel my resolve wavering if she has a ton of crazy well armed guards..

Not sure - I just assume she has one. I'll check into this.

And you should have a black Muslim guy accompany you...I think my Congressman, Keith Ellison, might want to go.

 
Zeppelininthesky [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:16:44 AM  
Davey Croquette: Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election registration fraud?

Drivers' License Registration? No.

Car Registration? No.

Bridal Registration? No.

Voter Registration? YES.

You Obamapologists lack of skepticism is no better than the neo-freep giving GWB a free ride.

As you ponder what might be the "problem" with America realize it's you.


So you admit you have no idea what ACORN even does...

They are scary and must be evil because they are Liberal.

 
gustakooka [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:17:58 AM  
Zeppelininthesky: Davey Croquette: FTA: Bachmann has said she will answer only certain questions on the 2010 Census form because the Census Bureau has signed up Acorn, the liberal-leaning community group, to help publicize the census and recruit enumerators.

Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election fraud? Oh...Bama.

Oh noes!!Teh liberal devil worshiping muslin terrorists in ACORN is brainwashing our brave Republican real Americans with scary socialist questions!!


Election fraud? Is that even a real term?

 
fernt 2009-07-02 11:17:58 AM  
CrazyCracka420: I guess I'm genuinely curious, does your name get attached to the census? I always sassumed it was "anonymous". If you're names not attached, then where's that irrational fear coming from?

The only way to even approach any type of anonymity, according to one government source, is to not list yourself as head of the household. But you still have to list yourself as living there.

And my fear isn't irrational - it comes from a sense of history, and how and why this country was founded in the first place.

But I realize you youngsters weren't taught much history, and probably no civics in public school...instead you were taught multiculturalism and various "study packets" provided by the United Nations. So you may be unaware that:

img365.imageshack.us

 
ravenlore [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:18:10 AM  
The Onanist: what_now: She has a compound?? Is it a scary crazy compound or a Kennedy like compound? Because I feel my resolve wavering if she has a ton of crazy well armed guards..

Not sure - I just assume she has one. I'll check into this.

And you should have a black Muslim guy accompany you...I think my Congressman, Keith Ellison, might want to go.


You're going to have to sell tickets...because i will PAY to see that.

/this thread has made my day brighter

 
Flab [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:21:01 AM  
Davey Croquette: Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election fraud?

Has ACORN been convicted of election fraud, or has some of its members been convicted of election fraud? There's a difference.

 
Davey Croquette [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:21:28 AM  

 
Zeppelininthesky [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:22:32 AM  
gustakooka: Zeppelininthesky: Davey Croquette: FTA: Bachmann has said she will answer only certain questions on the 2010 Census form because the Census Bureau has signed up Acorn, the liberal-leaning community group, to help publicize the census and recruit enumerators.

Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election fraud? Oh...Bama.

Oh noes!!Teh liberal devil worshiping muslin terrorists in ACORN is brainwashing our brave Republican real Americans with scary socialist questions!!

Election fraud? Is that even a real term?


Ask Iran...

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:22:54 AM  
The Onanist: And you should have a black Muslim guy accompany you...I think my Congressman, Keith Ellison, might want to go.

I think I love you.

 
Corvus 2009-07-02 11:23:35 AM  
subby: No, they aren't upset she is crazy, they are upset she is saying something that hurts the GOP.

 
bboy [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:24:48 AM  
Flab: Davey Croquette: Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election fraud?

Has ACORN been convicted of election fraud, or has some of its members been convicted of election fraud? There's a difference.


Well, neither, really. It was voter registration fraud, and mostly it was pinned on $8/hour hired help that was supposed to go door-to-door filling out voter registration forms decided to stay at home, drink beer, and fill out bogus forms.

It's not like you can walk into a polling place with no ID and a card that says that "Donald Duck" is registered to vote and actually get to cast a ballot.

 
Davey Croquette [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:24:59 AM  
Has ACORN been convicted of election fraud, or has some of its members been convicted of election fraud? There's a difference.

Agency Theory. Now go back to the grave you and your skepticism died in. You Obamapologists make me wretch in mock disgust as if I'd been forced to sniff a prisoner's jack rag.

Why would Obama make the unprecedented move to put the Census under the White House? Why would he let ACORN within ten miles of it? I don't need to stick my head up a cow's ass to know there's Filet Mignon in there.

 
Corvus 2009-07-02 11:26:12 AM  
Davey Croquette: Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election registration fraud?

Drivers' License Registration? No.

Car Registration? No.

Bridal Registration? No.

Voter Registration? YES.

You Obamapologists lack of skepticism is no better than the neo-freep giving GWB a free ride.

As you ponder what might be the "problem" with America realize it's you.


Well except for the fact that ACORN has NEVER been convicted of election fraud.

this has been shown time and time again in these threads.

 
rastjr [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:26:29 AM  
elchip: rastjr: Haven't come across that dude yet.

I'm pretty sure he's made an ... involuntary departure from this site.

Yeah, I'm Liberal. It's still a free country?

Sure. But often you seem to act like a caricature of one.


A caricture. Interesting. So when we disagree you name call. Nice.

 
moralpanic 2009-07-02 11:27:38 AM  
Davey Croquette: Has ACORN been convicted of election fraud, or has some of its members been convicted of election fraud? There's a difference.

Agency Theory. Now go back to the grave you and your skepticism died in. You Obamapologists make me wretch in mock disgust as if I'd been forced to sniff a prisoner's jack rag.

Why would Obama make the unprecedented move to put the Census under the White House? Why would he let ACORN within ten miles of it? I don't need to stick my head up a cow's ass to know there's Filet Mignon in there.


Are you really unaware of how insane you sound?

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:28:05 AM  
Davey Croquette: So Bachmann is lying?

(Judicial Watch)


More than likely, yes.

Oh btw "Judicial Watch" has 7 goals.

Here are three of them:


* Hillary Watch - Get more information about the Hillary Clinton's political, financial and ethical lapses.

* Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America - Get more information about the efforts to integrate the US, Canada and Mexico.

* Gardasil - Get more information about the Judicial Watch's efforts to expose the adverse effects of the Human Papillomavirus vaccine.


So...I'm not going to pay attention to anything they have to say.

 
cchris_39 2009-07-02 11:28:39 AM  
How are they going to keep from counting illegals?

There is only one box for "not a U.S. Citizen" but no further questions as to how and whether they are here legally.

 
Corvus 2009-07-02 11:29:02 AM  
Davey Croquette: Why would Obama make the unprecedented move to put the Census under the White House? Why would he let ACORN within ten miles of it? I don't need to stick my head up a cow's ass to know there's Filet Mignon in there.


Did you read the article:


In its official statement responding to the ACORN controversy, the Obama Commerce Department downplayed ACORN's participation in the Census, and labeled "baseless" the notion that ACORN would be involved in any Census count. However, the Census Bureau offered ACORN the opportunity to "recruit Census workers" who would participate in the count. Moreover, as an "executive level" partner, ACORN has the ability to "organize and/or serve as a member on a Complete Count Committee," which, according to Census documents, helps "develop and implement locally based outreach and recruitment campaigns."


ACORN will not count people.

You people are lying again.

 
Flatulent_Flea [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:29:04 AM  
bboy: It's not like you can walk into a polling place with no ID and a card that says that "Donald Duck" is registered to vote and actually get to cast a ballot.

And how many thousands of times would you have to do that to swing an election?

Davey Croquette: I don't need to stick my head up a cow's ass to know there's Filet Mignon in there.

It may be steak to you, but it's shiat to us.

 
Abstruse [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:29:40 AM  
Flab: Davey Croquette: Now why would the Census Bureau hire a company convicted of election fraud?

Has ACORN been convicted of election fraud, or has some of its members been convicted of election fraud? There's a difference.


A few of its "members" were found to have falsified registration. And by "members", I mean "college students and other 'geniuses' who got paid a couple of bucks per card filled in and decided to fill in cards for Mickey Mouse to make extra beer money".

Acorn did the legally required thing and filed ALL cards submitted, just in case some guy happened to actually be named Charlie Brown.

 
cchris_39 2009-07-02 11:30:01 AM  
moralpanic: Are you really unaware of how insane you sound?

He sounds perfectly sane. Do realize how invincibly ignorant and naive YOU sound?

 
Ms.Maus 2009-07-02 11:30:27 AM  
rastjr:
A caricture. Interesting. So when we disagree you name call. Nice.


"seem to act like" is not name calling, it is an observation.

 
Davey Croquette [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:30:31 AM  
Well, neither, really. It was voter registration fraud

If that makes you feel better about it you need your farking head examined.

and mostly it was pinned on $8/hour hired help that was supposed to go door-to-door filling out voter registration forms decided to stay at home, drink beer, and fill out bogus forms.

No it wasn't. If you don't know what happened don't join the Obamapology Brigade. Read my link to Judicial Watch if you want examples of fraud committed by your favorite organization ACORN.

I can't believe someone would actually support ACORN being involved in training Census takers. Unbelievable. You're awful Americans.

 
Corvus 2009-07-02 11:30:35 AM  
Davey Croquette: They wouldn't, and they didn't. Next question?

So Bachmann is lying?

First it was President Obama trying to break all precedent and run the 2010 census from within the White House. While the administration finally backed down from that politicization of the census, it clearly hasn't learned its lesson. Now it is having ACORN officially "partner" with the Census to help count the number of Americans in the country. It's like Santa trusting a child to tell him how many times he or she has been good in the past year.
(Judicial Watch)


Yes, she is lying:


In its official statement responding to the ACORN controversy, the Obama Commerce Department downplayed ACORN's participation in the Census, and labeled "baseless" the notion that ACORN would be involved in any Census count. However, the Census Bureau offered ACORN the opportunity to "recruit Census workers" who would participate in the count. Moreover, as an "executive level" partner, ACORN has the ability to "organize and/or serve as a member on a Complete Count Committee," which, according to Census documents, helps "develop and implement locally based outreach and recruitment campaigns."


Yes, maybe you should start trying to read the articles you link as proof.

Thought please don't fill out you census. It's all an evil ACORN plot.

 
chipspastic 2009-07-02 11:30:54 AM  
Corvus: ACORN will not count people.

Right! They'll only count Democrats!

/i keed

 
trueaustinite 2009-07-02 11:30:56 AM  
Davey Croquette: Agency Theory.

I like the way you think. Naturally, under Agency Theory, you would agree that the Republican Party molests children, right?

~Republican aide Alan David Berlin was arrested on charges that he wanted to engage in sex acts with a 15-year-old boy while dressed in a panda costume.

~Republican news producer Aaron Bruns was arrested on charges of possessing child pornography.

~Republican activist and former presidential campaign chairman Jeffrey Claude Bartleson was arrested on charges of sexually molesting a 5-year old boy.

~Republican activist and former chairman of the Christian County Republicans Royce Fessenden pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree child molestation and one count of second-degree statutory sodomy.

 
Abstruse [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:31:14 AM  
moralpanic: Are you really unaware of how insane you sound?

It's called a troll. Are you new around these parts?

 
The Onanist [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:31:53 AM  
what_now: I think I love you.

*blush*

Bachmann apparently lives in Stillwater, MN. Still digging.

 
Switchblades 2009-07-02 11:32:11 AM  
Bored Horde: sepuku2: oldfarthenry: Now, we have minority governments that require elections every ten months but at least there's an attempt at tackling some legislation.

That every ten month thing would get tiresome.

It's more like every 2-3 years, and you guys have elections that are orgies of advertising every 2 years.


Yes and no. It really depends on how contested the election is - if it's pretty much out of reach (ex., Lautenberg vs. Zimmer - we all knew Lautenberg had it), then it's not really that heavily advertised. (I saw some Lautenberg ads last fall. SOME.)

On the other hand, something like Hagan vs. Dole (where it was neck-and-neck BEFORE Liddy called Kay godless) IS hell.

It's also the markets. You won't get sacked as much with election ads (on TV) in the NY or Philadelphia markets because it's so expensive to buy ad time here, and - for representatives - you're reaching ~10m people you don't need to. Out in the boondocks, where time is cheaper and less people live, you do get more ads.

The problem, of course, is that a lot of our elections are staggered. Add in gubernatorial elections (four months to go till Election Day, and Christie and Corzine are ALREADY going at it), and it seems like a perpetual election.

 
Corvus 2009-07-02 11:32:21 AM  
Davey Croquette: No it wasn't. If you don't know what happened don't join the Obamapology Brigade. Read my link to Judicial Watch if you want examples of fraud committed by your favorite organization ACORN.

Ummm your link has nothing about that whatsoever.

 
vonster 2009-07-02 11:32:58 AM  
'Crats keep forgetting Cynthia McKinney.

 
Flab [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:33:02 AM  
bboy: It was voter registration fraud, and mostly it was pinned on $8/hour hired help that was supposed to go door-to-door filling out voter registration forms decided to stay at home, drink beer, and fill out bogus forms.

I know. I reused Davey's terminology without even thinking.

In my defense, I have a month-old baby at home messing up my sleeping schedule, so I'm not entirely firing on all cylinders.

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 11:33:09 AM  
Davey Croquette: Why would Obama make the unprecedented move to put the Census under the White House?

The Census is under the purview of the Department of Commerce, which is controlled by the White House.

Do you know which filthy socialist did this? Theodore Roosevelt.

 
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