GaryPDX: Headso: I hear GaryPDX is usually right about this stuff...

I just calls'em as I sees'em.

K fine, on what front?

I'll believe in a net profit for the bank/insurance company bailouts when Santa Claus delivers it.

What, we got screwed again? Say it isn't so.

The Homer Tax: Headso: I hear GaryPDX is usually right about this stuff...

He is. I just finished signing the Loyalty Oath that he swore everyone was going to be forced to sign after Obama got elected.

Gary was right again!

hahahah..have you done your census yet?

We should get these government people to run health care.

If Mr. Frank wants funding for his pet projects maybe he should run a gay brothel out of his condo.

rohar: GaryPDX: Headso: I hear GaryPDX is usually right about this stuff...

I just calls'em as I sees'em.

K fine, on what front?

Almost too many to count at this point.

GaryPDX: Headso: I hear GaryPDX is usually right about this stuff...

I just calls'em as I sees'em.

How is your vision? Have you been to the eye doctor lately?

For once I agree with the Fark Independents and I intend to steal the phrase "separation of corporation and state."

Unfortunately for all of us, neither churches nor corporations will accept being divorced from government. Churches have long since accepted their own sort of social contract where they have sharp limits on political power but most of their tenets are enshrined in law. But the corporations just keep buying bits of the government and farking with the little guy--as an investor I see them following their duty to make money for me, but as a little guy I them ripping me off. I think it's time to rethink the relationship between business and government, to a point.

Rev. Creflo Baller: separation of corporation and state

The state has to ordain the creation of a corporation. They're inextricably linked.

Shaggy_C: Rev. Creflo Baller: separation of corporation and state

The state has to ordain the creation of a corporation. They're inextricably linked.

Funny, I thought it was just a registration. Churches have to do the same so their tax exempt.

GaryPDX: Headso: I hear GaryPDX is usually right about this stuff...

I just calls'em as I sees'em.

That's an interesting thing for a blind man to say.

GaryPDX: hahahah..have you done your census yet?

The thing that the Constitution says must be administered every decade? Not yet. Is there a loyalty oath section in there that I'm unaware of?

paygun: What, we got screwed again? Say it isn't so.

It isn't so. Nothing has happened.

'These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. 'The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.'

NY Times Article

I don't care how much he enjoys other men's hairy asses - whatever.

I do care that he is a complete partisan hack and the poster child for why our system of government has failed.

The Homer Tax: GaryPDX: hahahah..have you done your census yet?

The thing that the Constitution says must be administered every decade? Not yet. Is there a loyalty oath section in there that I'm unaware of?

I don't know. I haven't seen it yet. But there are rumors..lol.

GaryPDX: This administration has done far more damage in 6 months than the Republicans did in 8 years.

Have you lost your farking mind?

and tomorrow, monkeys will fly out of my asss.

SDRR: 'These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. 'The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.'

NY Times Article

I don't care how much he enjoys other men's hairy asses - whatever.

I do care that he is a complete partisan hack and the poster child for why our system of government has failed.

Yeah. We're in real dire straits, what with our currency's value on the rise, our stock market on the rebound, and our government being accountable to the people again.

Gigantic failure of government right here.

GaryPDX: rohar: GaryPDX: Headso: I hear GaryPDX is usually right about this stuff...

I just calls'em as I sees'em.

K fine, on what front?

Almost too many to count at this point.

Let's see here, massive expansion of government powers and a disdain for personal liberties? I think ole junior pretty much perfected this one.

Massive spending? Yup, 6 years of war funding on top of tarp vs. the stimulus package. Yeah, I'm thinking junior takes this one too.

I'm not sure what you're seeing, and I'm not exactly thrilled about this administration either, but the contrast is striking. Just backwards from what you're saying.

How about no, Mr. Frank? Does no work for you? Because I can throw in a fark no if that's what you'd prefer.

GhostFish: GaryPDX: This administration has done far more damage in 6 months than the Republicans did in 8 years.

Have you lost your farking mind?

I guess. If you guys think what's happening is somehow wonderful, then I guess so.

rohar: Massive spending? Yup, 6 years of war funding on top of tarp vs. the stimulus package. Yeah, I'm thinking junior takes this one too.

This is the one that gets me. Most of my right wing friends / acquaintances fail to recognize that war spending was not included in the overall budget when Bush was in office and that it is included with Obama's budget.

No more War Spending Tricks (new window)

GaryPDX: GhostFish: GaryPDX: This administration has done far more damage in 6 months than the Republicans did in 8 years.

Have you lost your farking mind?

I guess. If you guys think what's happening is somehow wonderful, then I guess so.

What's got your nickers in a knot about this administration? Why was the last one better? Could you be specific?

occrider: I work for one of the banks that repaid tarp so I'm getting a kick and so and so ...

No seriously, the tarp money essentially sat in a holding account and did absolutely nothing because everyone was scared shiatless of having to account for how it was spent (god forbid some portion of it were used for standard BAU operations and the public would focus on some insignificant amount used on perceived waste resulting in a PR nightmare). Meanwhile, the government made out like a bandit on ridiculous dividend payments and warrants.

So does this mean banks now think it is a bad idea to try to destroy the world economy for their own short term gain then?

Maybe some good has come out of this...

rohar: What's got your nickers in a knot about this administration? Why was the last one better? Could you be specific?

I don't like parties (factions). We're being played, intentionally kept divided. It's way too much We, the Party and not enough We, the People. But I really don't like liberal hive ideology. In 2 days it's "Independence Day". Do you even remember what that means? I do.

/20k foot level

I thought we had all agreed not to quote GaryPDX. It's rude to make those of us who have him blocked read him being wrong again and again.

Thrakkerzog: rohar: Massive spending? Yup, 6 years of war funding on top of tarp vs. the stimulus package. Yeah, I'm thinking junior takes this one too.

This is the one that gets me. Most of my right wing friends / acquaintances fail to recognize that war spending was not included in the overall budget when Bush was in office and that it is included with Obama's budget.

It's funny. You tell them this obvious fact and they completely disregard it. They're really good at doing that too.

GaryPDX: rohar: What's got your nickers in a knot about this administration? Why was the last one better? Could you be specific?

I don't like parties (factions). We're being played, intentionally kept divided. It's way too much We, the Party and not enough We, the People. But I really don't like liberal hive ideology. In 2 days it's "Independence Day". Do you even remember what that means? I do.

/20k foot level

It means a bunch of people who were sick of the way things always were Stood up for the freedom to think like they want to and rule themselves.

Of course Republicans only remember the "war" part and not the "freedom" and "change" part.

/1776 republican = Loyalist

hey gay franky why don't we use it to pay off the debt you moron

GaryPDX: GhostFish: GaryPDX: This administration has done far more damage in 6 months than the Republicans did in 8 years.

Have you lost your farking mind?

I guess. If you guys think what's happening is somehow wonderful, then I guess so.

Point taken. You've lost your mind. Granted I wouldn't use 'wonderful.' I would just say 'incredibly significant upgrade.'

Also, how'd you get off my ignore list?

what_now: Oh...I get it. Because he's gay!! oh! Ha! He's Gay!!

No...it's because he just really likes antiques.

JokerMattly: It means a bunch of people who were sick of the way things always were Stood up for the freedom to think like they want to and rule themselves.

Of course Republicans only remember the "war" part and not the "freedom" and "change" part.

If you think being welfare wards of the state is somehow freedom, then you're nuts. And I'm not a republican.

GaryPDX: I guess. If you guys think what's happening is somehow wonderful, then I guess so.

Get back to us when Obama starts a couple of wars and tries to keep the costs off the books. Then MAYBE we can start talking about starting to talk.

justtray: Also, how'd you get off my ignore list?

lol..I dunno.

SDRR: 'These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. 'The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.'

NY Times Article FROM 2003.

Show me politicians in 2003 saying FF had looming financial issues.

I don't care how much he enjoys other men's hairy asses - whatever.

Right. He's gay. We get it.

I do care that he is a complete partisan hack and the poster child for why our system of government has failed.

And gay, you know that, right? Carry on dipshiat!

GaryPDX: I don't like parties (factions). We're being played, intentionally kept divided.

You Independent you.

\never remembered you bashing the right this much

IXI Jim IXI: GaryPDX: I guess. If you guys think what's happening is somehow wonderful, then I guess so.

Get back to us when Obama starts a couple of wars and tries to keep the costs off the books. Then MAYBE we can start talking about starting to talk.

I think we're already down the rabbit hole. These two parties have both screwed the pooch. The colossal train wreck is underway.

GaryPDX: These two parties have both screwed the pooch. The colossal train wreck is underway.

The colossal train wreck has been underway for years. But now suddenly you decide you want to complain about it...

B-B-B-B-But I thought all that TARP money was money all lost and none would ever be repaid.

That's what all the right wing farkers posted in their BS charts of "Obama spending the most money in the history of the government" AGAIN AND AGAIN.

What they were wrong?

Naww.

GaryPDX: If you think being welfare wards of the state is somehow freedom, then you're nuts. And I'm not a republican.

I would be thrilled to get the money back directly that I pay in taxes. At least it's not food stamps, you can buy guns with your welfare money and be a Rugged Independent^TM and shun society just like you would otherwise.

elchip: GaryPDX: I don't like parties (factions). We're being played, intentionally kept divided.

You Independent you.

\never remembered you bashing the right this much

Well, it has been a while. The Republicans were short timers by 06, pretty much irrelevant. We went from one extreme to the other real fast.

Corvus: B-B-B-B-But I thought all that TARP money was money all lost and none would ever be repaid.

That's what all the right wing farkers posted in their BS charts of "Obama spending the most money in the history of the government" AGAIN AND AGAIN.

What they were wrong?

Naww.

Bush passed TARP

GaryPDX: The colossal train wreck is underway.

Cap and Trade, and ObamaCare.

The "stimulus" package is doing great too. At least that was precise, streamlined, and wasn't filled with social programs.

GaryPDX:
Well, it has been a while. The Republicans were short timers by 06, pretty much irrelevant. We went from one extreme to the other real fast.

...if you're using geological time frames.

3_Butt_Cheeks: GaryPDX: The colossal train wreck is underway.

Cap and Trade, and ObamaCare.

The "stimulus" package is doing great too. At least that was precise, streamlined, and wasn't filled with social programs.

Cap and Trade has proven to work great for environmental issues. Again, recorded history disagrees with the right wing stance.

Corvus: That's what all the right wing farkers posted in their BS charts of "Obama spending the most money in the history of the government" AGAIN AND AGAIN.

Which would really be silly of them to argue in the context of TARP, since Obama wasn't in office when TARP was created.

Corvus: B-B-B-B-But I thought all that TARP money was money all lost and none would ever be repaid.

That's what all the right wing farkers posted in their BS charts of "Obama spending the most money in the history of the government" AGAIN AND AGAIN.

What they were wrong?

Naww.

I think you should go look up TARP.

IXI Jim IXI: GaryPDX: These two parties have both screwed the pooch. The colossal train wreck is underway.

The colossal train wreck has been underway for years. But now suddenly you decide you want to complain about it...

huh? I've known the train wreck was underway since they started selling mortgages like used car loans. That was the Clinton Administration. It was building long before that too. Do you really believe there's some real difference between these two parties? They've been gaming us since the civil war.