Corvus: Call me when Obama calls on a planted gay prostitute as a "reporter" and then we'll talk ok?

Until then STFU with the "they are both the same" BS.

I never complained Bush selected the press members like people are now complaining for Obama, I DID complain when they were not real press and were plants and just there to ask bullshiat question.

So there is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

GEORGE BUSH'S BEHAVIOR DOES NOT EXCUSE OBAMA'S BEHAVIOR!!1!!

JESUS farkING CHRIST!!!111111111111111111111111111

678583: Car_Ramrod: Many Democrats/liberals/progressives/whatever disagree with the President on some things, but nothing as stupid as this.

That's a nice way to completely avoid my point. The amount of cognitive dissonance some of you guys display is incredibly, I'm amazed your heads don't explode. Did we not just get done berating Bush for being such a moronic tool, not keeping campaign promises, and generally being a non-transparent liar? Yet when Obama does the same thing, people refuse to acknowledge it and just start rambling about Bush and the evil Republicans and how "teh stupid is rampant blah blah". Whatever, it's no use.

Didn't Huffington post have on there website they were going to have the Iranian ask a question?

I thought it was public knowledge.

Is anyone suggesting the question was planted? I have never heard anyone suggest this.

printboy: Be scared....

Be very sacred....

I've had two Green Light Submissions in a row.

Mordant: Helen is just now falling out of her "Honeymoon" phase of her political bias with the current administration.

> I think she fell out of the Honeymoon phase in January when she expected this admin would completely pull out of the middle east, only to be sitting there with such a heart broken look while Gibbs told the WHPC that they were sending more troops to Afghanistan, and the only thing she could keep saying was "why?".

> I don't really think the guy is trying to control the media, as it's been gotten at already on this thread, with Fox, talk radio, and the internet it isn't like he's going to be able to hide/skate with much of anything. All the staging and everything goes back to the teleprompoter issue. The guy is charismatic as all get out, but only when he's reading/reciting something that was scripted. Whenever he tries to go off the cuff, he makes George jr.'s blunders look tame.

Are you guys retarded, the white house wanted a question from the Iranian people, they knew the huffington post was in contact with people in the Iranian population and asked them to field a question from them. This is just a case of the old media getting it's panties in a wad because some blog got to ask the second question.

Have you ever listened to the questions Jeff Ganon asked Bush, compared to the actually hard questions proposed by the Huffington post, you would freaking laugh at this crap.

Car_Ramrod: Should we get outraged at everything the opposition tells us to so we can avoid claims of bias?

I'm actually hiring someone to call me anytime Nemo submits an article and I'm not logged in to Fark. That way I can rush over and express appropriate outrage before being accused of being a coward or being so biased. It'll be expensive, but it's worth it.

amazing_live_seamonkeys: Corvus: Call me when Obama calls on a planted gay prostitute as a "reporter" and then we'll talk ok?

Until then STFU with the "they are both the same" BS.

I never complained Bush selected the press members like people are now complaining for Obama, I DID complain when they were not real press and were plants and just there to ask bullshiat question.

So there is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

GEORGE BUSH'S BEHAVIOR DOES NOT EXCUSE OBAMA'S BEHAVIOR!!1!!

JESUS farkING CHRIST!!!111111111111111111111111111

HEY RETARD, I WAS RESPONDING TO HIM SAYING THEY WERE THE SAME. MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ THE POINT BEFORE REACTING!


DUMBASS!


If your too stupid to read the context DO NOT REPLY!!!!

amazing_live_seamonkeys: Corvus: Call me when Obama calls on a planted gay prostitute as a "reporter" and then we'll talk ok?

Until then STFU with the "they are both the same" BS.

I never complained Bush selected the press members like people are now complaining for Obama, I DID complain when they were not real press and were plants and just there to ask bullshiat question.

So there is a BIG DIFFERENCE.


GEORGE BUSH'S BEHAVIOR DOES NOT EXCUSE OBAMA'S BEHAVIOR!!1!!

JESUS farkING CHRIST!!!111111111111111111111111111

First off, they make decaf coffee now. Seriously.

Second, what is wrong with Obama's behavior? Specifics, please.

Third, when people are decrying Obama, saying, "I thought he was promising CHANGE?!?!?!?!", how is it inappropriate to mention the behavior of his predecessor to demonstrate the change that has occured?

Corvus: eddiesocket: HOWEVER, Chip Reid also accused the administration of prescreeing questions. If this is true, then this is very very wrong.


Yes for the public forum!

Do you really want "President Obama your a socialist, and ACORN is trying to take over America!,,, (30 mins)"

Do you want that at the health forum?

Everyone would pre-screen a forums questions. You don't want 90% loon questions that have nothing to do with healthcare.

You do think that's a good idea?

I assumed he meant they were screening questions from reporters. The implication being that they wouldn't let you ask if they were too tough.

Corvus:
If your too stupid to read the context DO NOT REPLY!!!!

your stupid!

liquidred: All the staging and everything goes back to the teleprompoter issue. The guy is charismatic as all get out, but only when he's reading/reciting something that was scripted. Whenever he tries to go off the cuff, he makes George jr.'s blunders look tame.

*facepalm*

Mordant: Car_Ramrod: Should we get outraged at everything the opposition tells us to so we can avoid claims of bias?

I'm actually hiring someone to call me anytime Nemo submits an article and I'm not logged in to Fark. That way I can rush over and express appropriate outrage before being accused of being a coward or being so biased. It'll be expensive, but it's worth it.

I have a program installed that automatically posts "LOL, you thought you were getting change!" in any thread where "Obama" is mentioned in the headline.

amazing_live_seamonkeys: Corvus: Call me when Obama calls on a planted gay prostitute as a "reporter" and then we'll talk ok?

Until then STFU with the "they are both the same" BS.

I never complained Bush selected the press members like people are now complaining for Obama, I DID complain when they were not real press and were plants and just there to ask bullshiat question.

So there is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

GEORGE BUSH'S OBAMA'S BEHAVIOR DOES NOT EXCUSE EQUAL OBAMA'S BUSH'S SHIATTY BEHAVIOR!!1!!

JESUS farkING CHRIST!!!111111111111111111111111111

There ya go.

liquidred: > I think she fell out of the Honeymoon phase in January when she expected this admin would completely pull out of the middle east, only to be sitting there with such a heart broken look while Gibbs told the WHPC that they were sending more troops to Afghanistan, and the only thing she could keep saying was "why?".

I agree it's like Helen Thomas is heart broken Obama didn't do all this crap he never said he would do in the first place.

He said he was going to put more troops in Afghanistan before the election and she acted all shocked when he did.

Even with the overwhelming high amount of knobslobbering, fawning coverage Obama gets, his Obamabot supporters still can't deal with any negative story about him or his administration... it's amazing. Just the attacks on the subby for his headline are enough to prove my point.

The question Reid asked was completely legitimate, and fat-boy Gibbs did a horrible job of trying to dodge it.

Car_Ramrod: liquidred: All the staging and everything goes back to the teleprompoter issue. The guy is charismatic as all get out, but only when he's reading/reciting something that was scripted. Whenever he tries to go off the cuff, he makes George jr.'s blunders look tame.

Dumbest thing said so far, in this thread. Congrats.

eddiesocket: I assumed he meant they were screening questions from reporters. The implication being that they wouldn't let you ask if they were too tough.

I agree that could be a problem. But they did seem to also complain that the public forum screened questions which is just retarded not to.

Has anyone told them a question and then was not called upon?

It's one of those things where Obama admin wanted to help so they didn't have to say "I'll check with the president and get back to you" and basically now the press is attacking them for it.

The Obama should realize that any change made with the press they will look on with skepticism and complain about it, no matter if it is helpful.

amazing_live_seamonkeys: Corvus:
If your too stupid to read the context DO NOT REPLY!!!!

your stupid!

run along and let the grown ups talk.

Astralwand: Are you guys retarded, the white house wanted a question from the Iranian people, they knew the huffington post was in contact with people in the Iranian population and asked them to field a question from them. This is just a case of the old media getting it's panties in a wad because some blog got to ask the second question.

Have you ever listened to the questions Jeff Ganon asked Bush, compared to the actually hard questions proposed by the Huffington post, you would freaking laugh at this crap.

THIS

Jeff Gannon to Bush: "Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the U.S. economy. (Senate Minority Leader) Harry Reid was talking about soup lines. And (Senator) Hillary Clinton was talking about the economy being on the verge of collapse. Yet in the same breath they say that Social Security is rock solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work - you've said you are going to reach out to these people - how are you going to work with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?"

Nico Petney to Obama on behalf of some Iranians: "Under which conditions would you accept the election of Ahmadinejad, and if you do accept it without any significant changes in the conditions there isn't that a betrayal of what the demonstrators there are working for?"

Added for reference.

Also we don't know how many times Petney has visited the WH after hours for other services.

But Helen, Chip, you voted for 'Hope and Change'...what exactly did you think that meant? This IS change and you'd better darn sight get used to it!

It is also ironic that a reporter complains that all question could be pre-screened asking a non-prescreened question.

amazing_live_seamonkeys: GEORGE BUSH'S BEHAVIOR DOES NOT EXCUSE OBAMA'S BEHAVIOR!!1!!



Yes it does. Yes....It....Does!!!
OMFG....Obama!!! Harvard!!!!

Corvus: I never complained Bush selected the press members like people are now complaining for Obama, I DID complain when they were not real press and were plants and just there to ask bullshiat question.

So there is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

Bush never claimed that things would be different and that he'd raise the bar and provide "transparency," either. You were duped when you threw your faith behind the piece of shiat we have in office now. Admit it.

Phil Herup: amazing_live_seamonkeys: GEORGE BUSH'S BEHAVIOR DOES NOT EXCUSE OBAMA'S BEHAVIOR!!1!!



Yes it does. Yes....It....Does!!!
OMFG....Obama!!! Harvard!!!!

I never said It did either.

Keep fighting those windmills.

Corvus: I never said It did either.


I was not referring to you. Just the mindless.

Ball Sack Obama: Corvus: I never complained Bush selected the press members like people are now complaining for Obama, I DID complain when they were not real press and were plants and just there to ask bullshiat question.

So there is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

Bush never claimed that things would be different and that he'd raise the bar and provide "transparency," either. You were duped when you threw your faith behind the piece of shiat we have in office now. Admit it.

Candidate Bush:
"I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect."
"We will use these good times for great goals,"
"We will confront the hard issues."
"I'm uniter, not a divider"
"They had their chance. They have not led. We will."
"I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say, 'This is the way it's got to be."
"He (Gore) believes in nation building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders."
..etc,etc.

Phil Herup: Just the mindless.

This coming from you?

Wow.

Jairzinho: Candidate Bush:
"I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect."
"We will use these good times for great goals,"
"We will confront the hard issues."
"I'm uniter, not a divider"
"They had their chance. They have not led. We will."
"I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say, 'This is the way it's got to be."
"He (Gore) believes in nation building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders."
..etc,etc.

You forgot "I want to restore honor and integrity at the White House."

choice and consequence: I thought Reid was the real hero in that exchange, wouldn't accept the brush off and drove his point home.

This

mmm... pancake: Obama's attempt to circumvent and garner control of the media reeks of third-world despotism. You know it's bad when Helen Thomas is calling you out.

AND this.

I'm no big fan of Helen, but good for her.

I watched this yesterday without any preconceived notions. I hadn't any idea what the topic of the meet was - my boss said, hey, come here, watch this (YouTube, I think). My impressions were:

1) The WH press secretary, Gibbs, is a gladhanding sack of sh*t. He needs to wipe that arrogant smirk off his face. And if he insisted on them sending him crap by email one more time, if I were there, I would have smacked him from here to... well... Iran. He wants the press to turn against the administration? Keep being condescending and arrogant.

2) Reid was correct in holding the line. Gibbs was blowing him off, and I can't say I wouldn't have done the same as Reid if I were in his shoes.

3) Say what you will, but as was mentioned upthread, you piss off Helen Thomas at your own peril, no matter who you are, no matter your political leanings. Whether she's still a journalist or not, whatever your opinion, that woman has strings that many politicians envy.

4) If the point that Reid and Thomas were pressing - about controlling the press - is true, then things are at a pretty pass. And it's going to get worse. People are naive to think this hasn't been the case since Day One, though. Obama IS a well oiled PR machine, from the day he exploded on the scene to now and then into the future. I don't know why they're miffed now.

These press conferences should be interesting to watch in the months to come.

That said, the honeymoon is over.

//shoves popcorn into microwave
/no buttah!!

Jairzinho: Ball Sack Obama: Corvus: I never complained Bush selected the press members like people are now complaining for Obama, I DID complain when they were not real press and were plants and just there to ask bullshiat question.

So there is a BIG DIFFERENCE.

Bush never claimed that things would be different and that he'd raise the bar and provide "transparency," either. You were duped when you threw your faith behind the piece of shiat we have in office now. Admit it.

Candidate Bush:
"I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect."
"We will use these good times for great goals,"
"We will confront the hard issues."
"I'm uniter, not a divider"
"They had their chance. They have not led. We will."
"I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say, 'This is the way it's got to be."
"He (Gore) believes in nation building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders."
..etc,etc.

I missed the "transparency" and "raising the bar" part. Applying the "logic" given so far in this thread, he didn't get BJs from an intern and lie about it to the nation and to a grand jury so he actually improved upon what his predecessor did while he was in office.

You were duped.

Ball Sack Obama: Applying the "logic" given so far in this thread, he didn't get BJs from an intern and lie about it to the nation and to a grand jury so he actually improved upon what his predecessor did while he was in office.

Your priorities are puzzling.

the opposite of charity is justice
Every single one of us should be demanding all the White House reporters be as critical and probing as Thomas. I voted for Obama and I'm *ecstatic* to see her doing her job on the new administration. If you repubs had an ounce of integrity you would've valued her the last eight years but instead it was easier to make fun of an elderly lady who isn't a beauty pageant queen like you're used to seeing sound out the words on Faux News.

Well said.

Oh, and:

Ball Sack Obama:
Bush never claimed that things would be different

Jairzinho:
Candidate Bush:
"I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect."

So there's that. Which is fun.

AspectRatio: It's OK when Bush does it, though.

"Uh... well, heh heh, um... heh... shucks, Don, that question wudn't on th' list... hehe heh he...."

Eat shiat, republican coonts.

"Change" farktard.

Ontos: choice and consequence: I thought Reid was the real hero in that exchange, wouldn't accept the brush off and drove his point home.

This

mmm... pancake: Obama's attempt to circumvent and garner control of the media reeks of third-world despotism. You know it's bad when Helen Thomas is calling you out.

AND this.

I'm no big fan of Helen, but good for her.

Yea, she's a disgusting troll, but that exchange was priceless. I must say I'm surprised she of all people would finally be the one to call out this Administration's press manipulation.

Who knew!

Christ on a cracker, if you guys spent as much time doing something about the farkin' economy as you did yelling about which reporter is a dirty lib or a fox flunkie, you'd have..

um..


no, you probably wouldn't. Never mind.

AspectRatio: "Europe is a Country" Palin?

How many states does Obama think there are again? 57?

Hoopido: AspectRatio: "Europe is a Country" Palin?

How many states does Obama think there are again? 57?

I love this game.

3_Butt_Cheeks: Hoopido: AspectRatio: "Europe is a Country" Palin?

How many states does Obama think there are again? 57?

I love this game.

Here's the funny thing, with Obama pretty much everyone with the exception of the most virulent freeper knew that Obama misspoke. With regard to Palin, who actually said that Africa was a county, pretty much everyone, again with the exception of the freepers, knew that she actually thought that Africa was one big country.

Car_Ramrod: Oh, and:

Ball Sack Obama:
Bush never claimed that things would be different

Jairzinho:
Candidate Bush:
"I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect."

So there's that. Which is fun.

Oh, he said the word "change?" Omifarkingod

Astralwand: Are you guys retarded, the white house wanted a question from the Iranian people, they knew the huffington post was in contact with people in the Iranian population and asked them to field a question from them. This is just a case of the old media getting it's panties in a wad because some blog got to ask the second question.

Have you ever listened to the questions Jeff Ganon asked Bush, compared to the actually hard questions proposed by the Huffington post, you would freaking laugh at this crap.

This.

How many people from the press actually took the time to actually field a question straight from Iran? Obama felt that was rather important at the time. It was rather well known that Nico was doing a better job covering this story than our traditional press. He didn't know what Nico was going to ask, just that it was coming straight from Iran.

Personally, I don't mind that he did something like that in that situation. It was needed. I think the press just needs to get their panties out of a wad and do their damn jobs in situations like Iran. They did a horrible job covering it, so what makes you think they had great questions to ask?

/goes back to lurking

Ball Sack Obama: Car_Ramrod: Oh, and:

Ball Sack Obama:
Bush never claimed that things would be different

Jairzinho:
Candidate Bush:
"I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect."

So there's that. Which is fun.

My bad, I guess I was wrong. I'm glad someone pointed it out so I don't look stupid in future threads.

That's very gracious of you.

Ball Sack Obama: Bush never claimed that things would be different

Did you really say that???? That has gotta be the dumbest thing ever said here and that is going far. Every politician says that things will be different if you elect him. If he didn't say that people can justifiably ask why to vote for him. Even Bush 1 said he would changes thing after Saint Ronnie.

Klingon Penis: Russky: You can pretty much change Obama to Bush and you have the Fark threads from years ago.

The greatest part is watching one side condemn the other side for the same thing they were doing for 8 years. Of course the side that was complaining for 8 years is now doing the same thing they were complaining about as well. CLASSIC!

Clearly, the dopes who can't see obvious differences and go with the "both parties are duh same, hurrrr" are still around, too.

There are similarities, i didn't say they were exactly the same in every facet.

Of course it's easier to pigeonhole someone that way, instead of discussing it like an adult.

Your right Obama should have all his "Town Hall Meetings" on military bases. The word transparency lost its meaning a long time ago.

Ball Sack Obama: Car_Ramrod: Oh, and:

Ball Sack Obama:
Bush never claimed that things would be different

Jairzinho:
Candidate Bush:
"I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect."

So there's that. Which is fun.

Oh, he said the word "change?" Omifarkingod

So... you're not going to bother pretending or claiming to be independent or neutral then ? Good, since you obviously took the time to create a new persona just for this purpose anyway.

Enjoy yourself.

madcow66: Your right Obama should have all his "Town Hall Meetings" on military bases.

or have Loyalty Oaths required to attend.

/I hope no one steals MY idea

Anyways...I don't really care about canned QnA's...I just hate Robert Gibbs. He's a smarmy, peckerwood lookin guy. Always has a smirk or sneer on his face, I wanna kick him in da nertz...I'd kick Helen in her nertz, too...but the 40lb pair she carries around would break a toe.

gustakooka: Ball Sack Obama: Yay transparency!

not.

-10 internets for a "not" joke.


Your quotation marks should have been around joke, as not-jokes are not jokes.

mmm... pancake: Obama's attempt to circumvent and garner control of the media reeks of third-world despotism. You know it's bad when Helen Thomas is calling you out.

Why? Helen Thomas has been calling people out for as long as I can remember. She's never been easy on this administration.

See, i must be crazy.
My understanding was they were calling reporters before events, saying "We're going to call on you" giving them a topic, and having the person come up with a question to submit.

They're not saying "come up with something better" they're telling them this is the topic we want you to cover. Like having the HuffPo reporter give an Iran question, but not "this is the question you'll ask: does iran suck?"