Was the "Obvious" tag on vacation?

Nope, she's right here

Actually, the problem here is that, while probably correct, this also comes from Murdoch's trash-rag, the Wall Street Journal, and I believe we know the liberal Murdoch-media's feelings on health care.

My head asplode....

Does Wal-Mart think it will lower its own costs, raise the costs of its competitors, or some combination?

A business using government to crush competition and improve their profitability? This has never happened before.

Max Danger Power: A business using government to crush competition and improve their profitability? This has never happened before.

So does this mean that universal health care is bad?

From the way some people like to criticize Wal-Mart over the horrible benefit it gives the workers, universal health care seems like a good upgrade then.

There will be a War on Wal-Mart before I die.

The only thing I can't pinpoint is who will start it: WalMart by trying to seize government power, or vice versa.

You heard it here first.

Snarfangel: Does Wal-Mart think it will lower its own costs, raise the costs of its competitors, or some combination?

Neither and both.

Neither - Wal-Mart just wants people to stop bothering them. Dealing with Unions, Liberals and Government take energy away from their core competency. Health Care will undermine one of the Union's selling points.

Lower Costs: Health Care Insurance premiums will only continue to go up, while they don't care about the easily replaceable retail employees. They still have to provide benefits for their management and back-office operations.

Crush it's competitors: Wal-Mart is following the old adage - they would rather be inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in. It will let them get ahead of their competition when the reform is enacted, they'll craft the reform for the most benefit to them, they'll craft the reform to punish their competition.

This really shows the stupidity of the GOP, Nixon got ahead of the Liberals by passing affirmative action and welfare - and did it in such a way to make it a great wedge issue for the GOP. The GOP could have done something in the years 6 years when they had total power.

Komplex: This really shows the stupidity of the GOP, Nixon got ahead of the Liberals by passing affirmative action and welfare - and did it in such a way to make it a great wedge issue for the GOP. The GOP could have done something in the years 6 years when they had total power.

A republican passing liberal laws before the democrats could didn't do anything to advance the conservative agenda. It just helped siphon votes away from democrats to republicans. Those aren't synonymous.

Komplex: Neither - Wal-Mart just wants people to stop bothering them. Dealing with Unions, Liberals and Government take energy away from their core competency. Health Care will undermine one of the Union's selling points.

Lower Costs: Health Care Insurance premiums will only continue to go up, while they don't care about the easily replaceable retail employees. They still have to provide benefits for their management and back-office operations.

Crush it's competitors: Wal-Mart is following the old adage - they would rather be inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in. It will let them get ahead of their competition when the reform is enacted, they'll craft the reform for the most benefit to them, they'll craft the reform to punish their competition.

Nice analysis -- I was wondering why the famously anti-union Wal-mart would benefit from universal health care.

Arkanaut: Komplex: Neither - Wal-Mart just wants people to stop bothering them. Dealing with Unions, Liberals and Government take energy away from their core competency. Health Care will undermine one of the Union's selling points.

Lower Costs: Health Care Insurance premiums will only continue to go up, while they don't care about the easily replaceable retail employees. They still have to provide benefits for their management and back-office operations.

Crush it's competitors: Wal-Mart is following the old adage - they would rather be inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in. It will let them get ahead of their competition when the reform is enacted, they'll craft the reform for the most benefit to them, they'll craft the reform to punish their competition.

Nice analysis -- I was wondering why the famously anti-union Wal-mart would benefit from universal health care.

Walmart , by virtue of size, will be able to negotiate better deals than anybody short of the federal government itself.

Their competitors will then be at a disadvantage when recruiting employees because while they will all pay the minimum X , Walmart will get more for X.

It is one more way for Walmart to use its size to get better deals from suppliers than their competition can.

Retail by its nature is local, if they were a manufacturing entity that competed internationally they would either want national health care or at least no employer payed health care.

I've been on WallMart insurance for years and it is about normal.

/Wife works there, I am independent contractor

Arkanaut: Komplex: Neither - Wal-Mart just wants people to stop bothering them. Dealing with Unions, Liberals and Government take energy away from their core competency. Health Care will undermine one of the Union's selling points.

Lower Costs: Health Care Insurance premiums will only continue to go up, while they don't care about the easily replaceable retail employees. They still have to provide benefits for their management and back-office operations.

Crush it's competitors: Wal-Mart is following the old adage - they would rather be inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in. It will let them get ahead of their competition when the reform is enacted, they'll craft the reform for the most benefit to them, they'll craft the reform to punish their competition.

Nice analysis -- I was wondering why the famously anti-union Wal-mart would benefit from universal health care.

The biggest cost that unions cause is the health&welfare, next to the pension obligations. The obnoxious work rules are merely annoying by comparison. The real reason why they close a store as soon as someone says the U word out loud is the pension/h&w costs.

Universal Health Care would give the unions one less thing to leverage.

Bad Dad Why: I've been on WallMart insurance for years and it is about normal.

/Wife works there, I am independent contractor

Walmart will do what makes walmart the most money. the hell with anything or anyone else, including the American people and what used to be their government.

I picture the CEO as the dark lord Sith, seriously this company is really evil. Not to mention the stores are dirty, foul smelling shiat holes that are utter chaos.

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Walmart will do what makes walmart the most money. the hell with anything or anyone else, including the American people and what used to be their government.

They better. I invest in their shares.

Wasn't there a story a while back about Wal-Mart actively helping its employees get on state assistance?

Bad Dad Why: I've been on WallMart insurance for years and it is about normal.

Back when I was on it, I found it to be pretty much useless around here.

FTFA: Wal-Mart, that liberal paragon of social irresponsibility. The discount giant's ex-critics probably ought to be more skeptical, given that this seems to be anticompetitive special pleading in progressive drag.

Wal-mart is a liberal company? Since when?

This is bad...for Obama.

I'm surprised more corporations aren't ganging up on the insurance industry in order to reduce the insane cost of providing employees healthcare. Companies like GM, Starbucks, etc. would be much better off with a government single-payer system than the current system, they would have one of their biggest costs lifted from them. They would finally be able to compete on a level playing field with Japanese, German, etc. competition who don't have to pay for the healthcare of their employees.

The way to get things done is to split the corporations, set them against each other rather than having them united against the people.

misery faded: Wal-mart is a liberal company? Since when?

Probably from the same people who now claim Dubya was a liberal.

Article and comments full of FAIL. Neither mention what Wal-Mart's support carries with it: two of the most conservative Democratic votes in the Senate: Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor.

I've thought that the seating of Al Franken doesn't make as much difference as advertised re: filibusters as Franken making a difference presupposes a bill that would have Pryor and Lincoln's votes without having Collins and Snowe on board.

The world is flat

/that is all

kennedy311: There will be a War on Wal-Mart before I die.

The only thing I can't pinpoint is who will start it: WalMart by trying to seize government power, or vice versa.

You heard it here first.

And last.

IXI Jim IXI: misery faded: Wal-mart is a liberal company? Since when?

Probably from the same people who now claim Dubya was a liberal.

Dubya is a liberal. I said it before he ran in 2000, though I was too young to vote then. I didn't vote for him in 2004 because he was too liberal. I know you well enough to know that you know neo-cons are just hawk-democrats. Dubya had a bit more Jesus thrown in the mix, but his views were/are very mainstream in this country as far as God goes. Now ask me if Cheney is a liberal, conservative, or so farking power hungry he will chew whatever philosophy he wants.

Um, all you Big Corporation Republicans...? Large companies generally are very much on board with a much more "liberal" health care policy change than anything suggested by Obama. Get a clue.