Everything you need to know about vampires:

V-A-M-P-I-R-E-S. That is the only acceptable spelling.

They're evil.

If you encounter one, chances are you'll have to fight it 4 or 5 times before actually dispatching it (what with the coffin and all).

Bat form is for losers. Gaseous form all the way.

/D&D gets it right

Best. Vampire. EVAR.

cenobyte40k: really no love for the 'World of Darkness'? Honestly they had some of the smartest mythical creature systems around, but then they switched to some new system that just kind of sucks.

I have no love for the New World of Darkness system...

Radu has been decapitated, staked, shot with silver bullets & severely burned by sunlight. Thanks to the Bloodstone & the Subspecies (Radu's minions), he survived.

Aimeeeee-uh! Awaaaay-kuh! I command yooouu-uh...to....away-kuh! Show me how much you love me Aimeeeeeeuh. Kill themmmuh bothhh!

AWAKE!

Shyran: cenobyte40k: really no love for the 'World of Darkness'? Honestly they had some of the smartest mythical creature systems around, but then they switched to some new system that just kind of sucks.

I have no love for the New World of Darkness system...

Requiem might suck, but Changeling: the Lost is a vast improvement over the Dreaming and a great game.

wolfserpent: Shyran: cenobyte40k: really no love for the 'World of Darkness'? Honestly they had some of the smartest mythical creature systems around, but then they switched to some new system that just kind of sucks.

I have no love for the New World of Darkness system...

Requiem might suck, but Changeling: the Lost is a vast improvement over the Dreaming and a great game.

I've heard that from several players, I have not checked it out though, tempted to buy the book just to see...

hellolove: I'm a girl who loves her smut, but Twilight just doesn't do it for me. Anne Rice works, good vampire smut. Vampire Knight, also good vampire smut. Twilight? Not so much. That's just crap. Hellsing is good stuff, but I prefer Abel.

Sounds good. I would like to formally recruit you into a D&D group, if you are interested. I live in the Columbus area.

E-mail info's in my profile.

/FYI this isn't a come on; I'm engaged. Just having trouble finding good gamers in my area, and my fiancee isn't much of a paper-and-pencil gamer.

wolfserpent: Shyran: cenobyte40k: really no love for the 'World of Darkness'? Honestly they had some of the smartest mythical creature systems around, but then they switched to some new system that just kind of sucks.

I have no love for the New World of Darkness system...

Requiem might suck, but Changeling: the Lost is a vast improvement over the Dreaming and a great game.

THIS!

Changeling is probably on of the best games that came out of the new line with Hunter coming in second IMHO.

/*Thinks the new Vampire is alright*
//*More political groups make sense*
///*Deava are so much better than Toreador*

TheWizard: The best authors can bring that into their stories without even including any sex at all. Just the nuances of the story that make our subconscious think about it without our conscious mind even realizing it.

I don't necessarily think implying sex without actually mentioning it is the key.

Sexuality is used to spice up a storyline. Now whether you want to add a pinch of spice to enhance another flavor (erotic innuendo) or make a red-hot curry (hardcore pr0n) depends on the recipe (plot), and the raw quantity of "spice" used isn't any indicator of skill. Furthermore, nuance means proper blend. Even "a lot" doesn't necessarily mean just turning the red pepper can upside down with in-your-face bow-chika-bow-bow. While most people laugh at the thought, it's actually possible to add layers of depth and nuance within a very explicit scene. See "Lust, Caution".

In general terms (not necessarily vampirism as that's not my thing per se) I've read/seen what were supposed to be erotic scenes that were so self-censored due to either author insecurity or to get a PG-13 rating that it came off with all the enjoyment of a watered-down curry. On the other hand, oversexed T&A is almost a way of life in formulaic fiction, so it's not at all difficult to find cases of way too much.

If the occasion calls for a lot, use a lot. If less is more, go with less. The point is to not use too little or too much and blend any naunce with whatever else the heck you're doing, and that's easier said than done.

The major differences between the three? True Blood and the Whedonverse don't suck werewolf balls.

Gothnet: Underworld - who cares? It's got Kate Beckinsale in a catsuit


Don't forget the multitude of fully automatic weapons!

I could really go for some horror critters in a movie that's actually scary.
Or maybe just a movie of Kate B. doing jazzercise for 2 hours in a leather outfit

whatever comes first

dragonchild 2009-07-02 05:34:55 PM
TheWizard: The best authors can bring that into their stories without even including any sex at all. Just the nuances of the story that make our subconscious think about it without our conscious mind even realizing it.

I don't necessarily think implying sex without actually mentioning it is the key.

That's not what I said. A good author can do that. I didn't actually mean that a good author must do that.


Sexuality is used to spice up a storyline. Now whether you want to add a pinch of spice to enhance another flavor (erotic innuendo) or make a red-hot curry (hardcore pr0n) depends on the recipe (plot), and the raw quantity of "spice" used isn't any indicator of skill. Furthermore, nuance means proper blend. Even "a lot" doesn't necessarily mean just turning the red pepper can upside down with in-your-face bow-chika-bow-bow. While most people laugh at the thought, it's actually possible to add layers of depth and nuance within a very explicit scene. See "Lust, Caution".

In general terms (not necessarily vampirism as that's not my thing per se) I've read/seen what were supposed to be erotic scenes that were so self-censored due to either author insecurity or to get a PG-13 rating that it came off with all the enjoyment of a watered-down curry. On the other hand, oversexed T&A is almost a way of life in formulaic fiction, so it's not at all difficult to find cases of way too much.

If the occasion calls for a lot, use a lot. If less is more, go with less. The point is to not use too little or too much and blend any naunce with whatever else the heck you're doing, and that's easier said than done.

I don't disagree with you. But I think you missed my point.

Most authors of vampire fiction are crap. In my opinion they are too excited to be able to include what they view as the obligatory vampire sex scene(s) that they don't stop to think if it fits into the style of the storytelling, or the story that they are telling. Even if the story calls for 50 man vampire orgies every Tuesday, if the style of the story doesn't allow for graphic descriptions, then an author 'censoring' that section isn't necessarily a flaw.

My primary point was that many authors view sex as something that is either obligatory, or a tool to spice up an otherwise bland story. Sex in vampire stories isn't a requirement, and smut scenes aren't enough (let alone a requirement) to tell a good story.

My point is: if it fits in the style and the story, then do it. But I have no patience for authors that engage in smut and break the pace or the style of the story.

My other issue is this:

1. There are good stories that include vampires

2. There are bodice rippers that include vampires.


If you are seeking to write number 1, you don't have to make it number 2.