This is where the vegetarians stick up for their shiatty diet, right?

Molavian: This is where the vegetarians stick up for their shiatty loose bowels diet, right?

They prefer you use the right terms.

Suck it brittle bones

Which begs the question, why would I waste time getting a vegan girlfriend?

I expect this thread to be a rational and intelligent discussion of different dietary choices.

//Look, to be honest, I can't trust a person that won't eat bacon.
//I don't care why you won't. It's just inhuman.

You mean that omnivores who choose to not be omnivores aren't as healthy as their omnivore counterparts? Color me shocked.

/omnivores
//omnivores
///omnivores

Yup. Wasn't there a nice study about the unreliability of studies a while back?

Weaker bones versus colon cancer. Hmmm...

You are what you eat. Eat bones.

Also in the news today: Vegetarians 12 percent less likely to develop cancer than meat-eaters. (new window)

I'm a happy meat eater, so suck it, not-cancer.

Once again, more than .

Alleyoop: Suck it brittle bones

Which begs the question, why would I waste time getting a vegan girlfriend?

Because crazy biatches will do threesomes.

My first thought (Electric Company goodness)

Retort: You are what you eat. Eat bones.


I eat pure awesome.

I guess the Apostle Paul was right when he said that the "weak person eats only vegtables."

FTA:"There was "practically no difference" between the bones of meat-eaters and ovolactovegetarians, who excluded meat and seafood but ate eggs and dairy products, he said."

Suck it, other types of vegetarians.

Now if they could stop looking like AIDS patients. I'll club them and eat their bones!

t3knomanser: I expect this thread to be a rational and intelligent discussion of different dietary choices.

//Look, to be honest, I can't trust a person that won't eat worship bacon.
//I don't care why you won't. It's just inhuman.

Fixed

splatterbabble: Weaker bones versus colon cancer. Hmmm...

You realize, there's a happy medium. The colon cancer risks arise mostly because people are eating too much meat. The cancer risk is not caused by meat, but by an unhealthy diet.

A healthy diet can include meat, but meat should never be the main part of a dish.

Brittle vegetarian Bones?


/poor girl, eat a samwich please

To sum up the study:
People who take calcium out of their diet have weaker bones.

FTFA: But the magnitude of the association is clinically insignificant

Brittle bones? Hardly.

t3knomanser: You realize, there's a happy medium. The colon cancer risks arise mostly because people are eating too much meat. The cancer risk is not caused by meat, but by an unhealthy diet.

Your brand of "facts" and "common sense" have no place here, you heretic!

Alleyoop: Suck it brittle bones

Which begs the question, why would I waste time getting a vegan girlfriend?

Cause you like hearing the hips crack without being a pedo??

club sandwiches, not seals.

Farkwaddle: Cause you like hearing the hips crack without being a pedo??

Aw, you went there.

t3knomanser: splatterbabble: Weaker bones versus colon cancer. Hmmm...

You realize, there's a happy medium. The colon cancer risks arise mostly because people are eating too much meat. The cancer risk is not caused by meat, but by an unhealthy diet.

A healthy diet can include meat, but meat should never be the main part of a dish.

I grew up in Kentucky where meat covered meat in meat sauce was an entree and the sides were usually beans or rice cooked in meat and lard. A happy medium in Kentucky is eating vegetables where no one can see you do it.

Poppyale: club sandwiches, not seals.

But my sandwich doesn't have a skull to pop.

choice and consequence: Brittle vegetarian Bones?


/poor girl, eat a samwich please

Is that a zombie?!? I actually jumped a little when I saw that pic.

/runs for ammo stash, just in case

I know why meaties bristle at the thought of vegetarians. It's because you're afraid that somehow, because of our choice to abstain from meat, we think we're better than you.

Well guess what?

We are better than you.

We don't fark up the environment by keeping cattle farms in business. We don't fark over the hungry by monopolizing land for an inefficient food production method, and we don't fark over helpless animals just because they taste good.

myfAuLT: Well guess what?

At least you're obvious.

Suck it, PETA members!

/surprised someone didn't say that already

It seems that females get into the whole vegetarian thing (in my family at least) for two main reasons: "Awww, think of the poor little animals" and to lose weight.

My counter to them is that human beings, like it or not, have EVOLVED as OMNIVORES and need to eat a BALANCE of plant and animal products.

My doc told me you don't need a whole lot. An adult needs only about 6 oz of animal products (a standard hamburger patty, a large egg or chicken quarter) a day is way plenty. He thinks vegetarians (and vegans, in particular) are a deluded bunch.

GoldSpider: Farkwaddle: Cause you like hearing the hips crack without being a pedo??

Aw, you went there.

The door was open...couldn't help myself.

myfAuLT: I know why meaties bristle at the thought of vegetarians. It's because you're afraid that somehow, because of our choice to abstain from meat, we think we're better than you.

Well guess what?

We are better than you.

We don't fark up the environment by keeping cattle farms in business. We don't fark over the hungry by monopolizing land for an inefficient food production method, and we don't fark over helpless animals just because they taste good.

Well at least you're humble and tolerant of those that disagree with your philosophy.

/Mmm, steak.

I was a vegetarian for about 8 years, and then discovered I really missed bacon. I was rather anemic at the time, though, because I struggled to get enough iron in my diet.

I wonder if the decrease in bone health might have to do more with not making sure you are getting all the nutrients you need in the quantity you need, having to eat more than you would of them in vegetable matter than in animal products.

That said, there's no questioning we are meant to be omnivores and our bodies function best with animal protein. It doesn't mean, of course, it has to be as fatty protein as our ancestors used to eat, but in times when the earth wasn't producing fruit and veggies it would have been our only choice.

As for cancer? Maybe, we are all living a bit too long now.

Alleyoop: Suck it brittle bones

Which begs the question, why would I waste time getting a vegan girlfriend?

Oh, SNAP! (literally!)

Moderation and balance, who knows that just might be the correct way for people to go. T3knomanser its fine for meat to be the main part of a dish but you should probably be having a 4 oz steak or chicken breast with 6 oz of a vegtable medley, a salad, and a starch and vegetable dish. The 20 oz steaks or porkchops or mystery meat patties in every meal are whats bad.

"There was "practically no difference" between the bones of meat-eaters and ovolactovegetarians, who excluded meat and seafood but ate eggs and dairy products, he said."

I love how they sneaked that in there. So, basically eating lots of meat had little to do with the bone density. What mattered was eating food with high sources of calcium like dairy products.

Hot as a slow smoked pork shoulder.

I just decided to eat a nice juicy steak today

Day_Old_Dutchie: It seems that females get into the whole vegetarian thing (in my family at least) for two main reasons: "Awww, think of the poor little animals" and to lose weight.

My counter to them is that human beings, like it or not, have EVOLVED as OMNIVORES and need to eat a BALANCE of plant and animal products.

My doc told me you don't need a whole lot. An adult needs only about 6 oz of animal products (a standard hamburger patty, a large egg or chicken quarter) a day is way plenty. He thinks vegetarians (and vegans, in particular) are a deluded bunch.


Haha, it's precious how you treat the opinion of your Doc as the gospel. Can your Dad still beat up every one else's Dad too?

Timdesuyo: Yup. Wasn't there a nice study about the unreliability of studies a while back?

Yes but the results were dubious and are currently under peer review.

There is already another study to study the previous dubious results of the study of the former unreliable study under way now.

t3knomanser: splatterbabble: Weaker bones versus colon cancer. Hmmm...

You realize, there's a happy medium. The colon cancer risks arise mostly because people are eating too much meat. The cancer risk is not caused by meat, but by an unhealthy diet.

A healthy diet can include meat, but meat should never be the main part of a dish.

Actually, that's not necessarily true, either: The traditional Inuit diet has always been very heavily meat oriented, but when they went to a more "western" diet their rates of stomach and colon cancers increased significantly, by about 12%.

I suspect it has more to do with how we raise cattle, and what we add to the meat, than the fact that we eat meat itself.

t3knomanser: splatterbabble: Weaker bones versus colon cancer. Hmmm...

You realize, there's a happy medium. The colon cancer risks arise mostly because people are eating too much meat. The cancer risk is not caused by meat, but by an unhealthy diet.

A healthy diet can include meat, but meat should never be the main part of a dish.

This but I avoid meat altogether. Mostly b/c I don't want to support an industry that is needlessly cruel, environmentally destructive (and really I don't care for the taste). I think eating meat a handful of times a month would probably be healthier (provided it was free of mercury, growth hormones, pesticides).

If I ever feel the desire to eat meat again, It'll be something I killed myself.

/tis a funny thing, the self-righteous vegan/vegetarian seems nonexistant. Its like all the douche-bags decided they could be more self-righteous by taking offense at someone not eating meat.

myfAuLT: We don't fark up the environment by keeping cattle farms in business. We don't fark over the hungry by monopolizing land for an inefficient food production method, and we don't fark over helpless animals just because they taste good.

I'm better than you because I understand that planting crops and using pesticides and fertilizers also farks over helpless animals. Instead of doing some token gesture like being a vegetarian, I dedicated my life to helping preserve and protect habitat, having it made it my career. Let me tell you, your crop lands aren't any better. You fark up the environment in different ways.

But .... veggie farts are soooo much fun!

The kind of vegetarian that will eat things like ice cream and french fries now and then don't bother me, though the idea of going through life without ever devouring flame-seared animal flesh again makes the hindpart of my brain cringe and howl like some primordial beast gazing on a sudden and total eclipse of the sun. It's the crazies that will only eat raw weeds or all fruits or just plain cut out all non-flora that will be the downfall of society.

You're mutants. You're forcing yourself to evolve in a way that is inefficient and aberrant to Nature. If God were up there, looking down, he'd go WTF and throw some Rank IV bolts around to bust that up. In about ten generations Vegans are going to be some kind of translucent-skinned, hairless hunchbacks cruising around on anti-grav discs, distended spines crackling with latent psychic force as they drift along lazily over the heads of us grunting, physically normal but artificially-induced mentally stunted omnivores - yes, your evil Vegan overlords have implanted neural manipulators in the brains of your offspring to control their development - poking, prodding with pronged poles crackling with lambent psychic energies.

Stop them. Stop them now. Save us, while there's still time.