rastjr: Egalitarian,

Exactly right. Obama is just slightly left of the nazi bush. But compared to the rest of the world he is a fascist lite. We need a real Liveral Liverpool party to stand up for gays, women, and the working man.



/pet peeve

rastjr: Sorry. That should be Liberal party.

I liked your first spelling much better. Makes me think that drinking is not only permitted at party gatherings, but that it is to some degree required.

rastjr: Sorry. That should be Liberal party.

Liverpool party's not THAT bad.

Mighty Horse: >eraser8: I don't know about the others...but he should definitely rape Grandma.

Are you watching and learning conservatives? This is how it is done. There is nothing that says quality satire, caricature, comment and irony quite like a good grandma rape joke.


That is actually not funny. It just isn't.


Lemme guess... you are a huge "Friends" fan, since you think unfunny things are funny.

patrick767: GAT_00
Hey, since I found you spouting your bullshiat again, mind looking back over this thread and proving the bullshiat you said in there?

You're kidding, right? Linking idiotic articles full of unsubstantiated bullshiat while spouting the same bullshiat himself is his entire shtick on Fark.

The ignore button is great. Go ahead, use it on known retard/trolls. Fark becomes a civilized place with intelligent discussions and humor.

ghare: Fark becomes a civilized place with intelligent discussions and humor when everybody agrees with my opinions.

ftfy

What Is Wrong With America?

Marijuana is illegal.

Hey Polydor- That's the Beatles label. Cool.

when everybody agrees with my opinions.

No kidding. Anything they don't agree with or understand is a "troll".

I figure anyone who is so afraid of accidentally reading something they use the "Ignore" button is the same type of person who bans books and buys things off late night television but not Girls Gone Wild. Juicers, mainly.

Clarence Potter: Actually, no I cannot, and this is the sheer stupidity of their argument and I suppose (by extension) yours: They're safe-guarding the democratic institutuions of Honduras by blanking power, muffling the media, and doing all of this in secret? Do you honestly believe that? If their actions had the full sanction of the HSC, the Congress, the Attorney General, the Human Rights Ombudsman, and grandma; why not arrange for this in the light of day where you have, say, the AG announcing this LEGAL procedure over the airwaves while the Military detains the man (detains, not exiles), while the Congress appoints a new leader for the country? Which has the greater weight of legitimacy both in the eyes of the average Honduran and the world at large?

Did you follow th enews leading up to this?

Mobs of people were breaking into military bases. The President was dismissing people he had no authority to. If you can't see how publicly saying the military was going to arrest him before hand might have caused more bloodshed I am going to have to ask the person typing for you to try and draw some pictures to explain because I don't have the patience. Just because it wasn't public before hand doesn't make it illegal.

As far as what would have looked more legit, I agree, but maybe saving lives was more important than making it look good.

At this point with news coming out I am not discounting th epossibility of it being a coup. I just think it is a little irresponsible to level that charge at this point.

How amusing is it that a right-wing nutjob website has "thinker" in the title?

Phil Herup: That is actually not funny. It just isn't.


Lemme guess... you are a huge "Friends" fan, since you think unfunny things are funny.

On another break Phil? Your previous comments lead me to believe that you should never judge what is and what isn't funny.

ghare: The ignore button is great. Go ahead, use it on known retard/trolls. Fark becomes a civilized place with intelligent discussions and humor.

.... and we can have huge libby circle jerks without interruption from those hate-filled right wing troglodytes while we sip our Starbucks lattes.


FTFY

Maddogjew: Your previous comments lead me to believe that you should never judge what is and what isn't funny.



I have judged!

I know I do not have the wealth of experience of say, a wise old Latino woman, but I do know when something is funny.

People that use the ignore button are missing out on the whole experience of Fark.

Ask Phil Herup. We don't agree on anything but we have learned to respect each other. He might be the coolest dude on here.

Phil Herup: hate-filled right wing troglodytes

Well, it is difficult finding a right-winger in a political thread who's not hate-filled.

* albo
* HOV
* six fingered man
* canisnoir
* does Weaver95 count?

...that's about it

.... and we can have huge libby circle jerks without interruption from those hate-filled right wing troglodytes while we sip our Starbucks lattes.

If I were the most ignored Farker on fark.com I'd be damn proud. I might even buy one of those gay t-shirts.

First of all, whoever wrote the article is slightly retarded/needs an editor.

Second of all, I appreciate the way Obama carefully handled Iran,not crushing the protest movement, but this is just goddamn stupid.The military, the supreme court, his own party, and a majority of Hondurans supported this. The people trying to get involved with this need to stay the fark out of another country's business.

Bocanegra: Don't forget this charming tidbit:



Oh yeah, the unemployment rate just went up. So expect an even steeper upward turn on this graph within a few days.



"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future."

Phil Herup: I know I do not have the wealth of experience of say, a wise old Latino woman a hydrocephalic Jerry's kid , but I do know when something is funny.

FTFY

Slow day in the office Phil?

Davey Croquette: when everybody agrees with my opinions.

No kidding. Anything they don't agree with or understand is a "troll".

I figure anyone who is so afraid of accidentally reading something they use the "Ignore" button is the same type of person who bans books and buys things off late night television but not Girls Gone Wild. Juicers, mainly.

Nope. Known retard/trolls are not worth paying any attention to, at all. Unfortunately, most all the right wing has is crazies and trolls. It would be nice to have intelligent right wingers posting, but like in real life, only 22% of Farkers are rightwing, and most of them are people who have nothing of value at all to say. LIBSLIBSLIBSLIBS! is boring and pointless.

liam76: Did you follow th enews leading up to this?

Mobs of people were breaking into military bases. The President was dismissing people he had no authority to. If you can't see how publicly saying the military was going to arrest him before hand might have caused more bloodshed I am going to have to ask the person typing for you to try and draw some pictures to explain because I don't have the patience. Just because it wasn't public before hand doesn't make it illegal.

Yea I did and the history of the region, of the players, the factions, etc etc etc. About which you seem not to care, forgetful, or ignorant. And you will note I did not say announcing his detention beforehand; I mentioned coordinating this action in conjunction with the other branches of government. Why not take a reporter or a pool of reporters from La Prensa into the know? Why do things that give the apprearance of making it all seem they are thieves in the night? I mean, after all... if what the Honduran Military did was 100% legitimate, tCare to comment on the provenance of the man's resignation letter? I suspect the military planners had that and the HSC order all ready to go; the HSC played ball but the the traveling man did not.

liam76: As far as what would have looked more legit, I agree, but maybe saving lives was more important than making it look good.

Which is, after all, the oldest excuse in the LatAm Military book when justifying a coup: We did so to safeguard the lives of the public, to guarantee domestic order, and to ensure the stability of the situation. So really no it is not, and congrats on becoming an apologist for the Honduran military. And, given recent events, think they were being penny-wise and pound-foolish? If only they had bothered to do things legally...

m2313: The people trying to get involved with this need to stay the fark out of another country's business.

Honduras is a US client state. We're already involved in this.

liam76: Mobs of people were breaking into military bases.

When?

The President was dismissing people he had no authority to. If you can't see how publicly saying the military was going to arrest him before hand might have caused more bloodshed

More bloodshed than what? Also, do you support demonstrations in Iran? If so, why is that different from Honduras?

Just because it wasn't public before hand doesn't make it illegal.

Please show me the section of the Honduras constitution and the corresponding legal code authorizing the arrest and deportation of a sitting president, including the procedures to be followed.

changeit: Democracy is a joke. The tyranny of the majority almost always ruins it. It's just our lame-ass justification for meddling in the affairs of other countries (and wasting TONs of money in the process).

John Stuart Mill:

Like other tyrannies, the tyranny of the majority was at first, and is still vulgarly, ...

I like other JSM quotes"Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives."

Davey Croquette: when everybody agrees with my opinions.

No kidding. Anything they don't agree with or understand is a "troll".

I figure anyone who is so afraid of accidentally reading something they use the "Ignore" button is the same type of person who bans books and buys things off late night television but not Girls Gone Wild. Juicers, mainly.

There's a big difference between disagreeing and having a conversation/debate with someone that doesn't agree with you compared to some of the idiot trolls who post shiat that is meant to do nothing but inflame and usually has no basis in reality.

But go one pretending it's different so you can pretend you are someone 'better'.

Pandering to the PITA again. Anyone who thought Iran was a democracy is an idiot. In a democracy, everyone votes on every issue. How many democracies are there worldwide? We'd have to search small South Pacific islands to find one.

compared to some of the idiot trolls who post shiat that is meant to do nothing but inflame and usually has no basis in reality.

WTF do you care what they post. That's like saying you don't like what's on a billboard. Don't read it. And if you accidentally read it, forget about it. It's words on a page. They won't hurt you.

I wonder if Phil has all these tiny images in one photobucket, ready to go, or if he acquires them as the need arises.

DarnoKonrad: canyoneer: DarnoKonrad: "Until then, Hondouras is making itself a pariah and violating its own laws."

How do you know that?

I have google news and I can read?

Elitist.

elchip: Phil Herup: hate-filled right wing troglodytes

Well, it is difficult finding a right-winger in a political thread who's not hate-filled.

* albo
* HOV
* six fingered man
* canisnoir
* does Weaver95 count?

...that's about it

Yup, you're right, I'm not hate filled enuf to jump into this particular vipers nest ;) I think Obama played Iran right at first but faltered on it at the end, as for Honduras, well, we meddle there but not in Iran?

Oh well, it's not some ground breaking thing that would turn me from an Obama Skeptic into an Obama hater so meh.

I leave you with this...Not a Rick Roll because that would be below me ;) (new window)

You left out: "bullying Israel".

I have heard that exact phrase used along with the headline no less than ten times this week.

CanisNoir: as for Honduras, well, we meddle there but not in Iran?

Honduras has been a US client state for decades. Supporting another coup in Latin America makes us look bad.

Wow, so it sounds like the freedom-loving coup leaders have passed an Emergency Freedom Act.

The same Congress that, after the military had kidnapped, beaten and dumped President Manuel Zelaya in Costa Rica had declared one of its own, Roberto Micheletti as the coup "president" today passed an emergency law stripping Hondurans of the following rights from the country's constitution:

1. The right to protest.

2. Freedom in one's home from unwarranted search, seizure and arrest.

3. Freedom of association.

4. Guarantees of rights of due process while under arrest.

5. Freedom of transit in the country.

Fart_Machine: Honduras has been a US client state for decades. Supporting another coup in Latin America makes us look bad.

Well this wasn't exactly your typical Latin American Coup though, still you've got a point. Like I said, I have a hard time looking at this stuff negatively. I was dissapointed by his later Iran stance but I understood where he was coming from with it so I don't hold it against him; at least I'm not outraged by it or think he's anti-freedom.

Aexia: Wow, so it sounds like the freedom-loving coup leaders have passed an Emergency Freedom Act.

The same Congress that, after the military had kidnapped, beaten and dumped President Manuel Zelaya in Costa Rica had declared one of its own, Roberto Micheletti as the coup "president" today passed an emergency law stripping Hondurans of the following rights from the country's constitution:

1. The right to protest.

2. Freedom in one's home from unwarranted search, seizure and arrest.

3. Freedom of association.

4. Guarantees of rights of due process while under arrest.

5. Freedom of transit in the country.

But they're not Iran so it's OK.

Phil Herup: darkhorse23: Freepers are like the ugly girl who didn't get invited to the prom, so they sit around and talk about how ugly and fat the prom queen is,



Nice spin. I thought the Dems had a monopoly on ugly, and most likely did not produce that many prom queens.

So Phil, what you are saying is that old or black women are ugly?

Phil Herup: ragekage: Phil Herup: darkhorse23: Freepers are like the ugly girl who didn't get invited to the prom, so they sit around and talk about how ugly and fat the prom queen is,



Nice spin. I thought the Dems had a monopoly on ugly, and most likely did not produce that many prom queens.

Ahh, Phil, that's right- you're too much of a troll to actually have an opinion, you just threadshiat. How could I forget?

Right I'm threadshiatting. darkhorse23 makes a completely ridiculous statement about fat ugly freepers... a bunch of you "geniuses" are are" Oh yeah... they ugly... they take it in the ass.... that is a very good analogy..."

I just post one pic and I'm threadshiatting. Oh, that is rich. So typical

OMG you don't know what an anology is.

I never thought you were that stupid.

Jackpot777 2009-07-02 09:27:45 AM
"Conservative Internet Tough Guys: hope for a Liberal judge because in their hearts they know where truth and fairness really reside."

I bet you anything that, if they had the chance, the members of the Unitarian Universalist church would not have requested that Jim Adkisson get the death penalty. Instead he plead guilty and got a life sentence without possibility of parole.

canyoneer: You didn't read your own link very carefully, did you?

Yes I did. And you're embarrassing yourself.

liam76: A coup is an illegal removal from power. A coup isn't an exile that might be illegal (your source).

You're being willfully obtuse. Beating up on bag of doorknobs is only fun for so long.

So Republicans would have been ok with a military coup when George Bush's approval rating hit 30%? Sounds pretty un-American to me.

I suggest we round up all Republicans that support the Honduran military coup and execute them for treason.

All2morrowsparTs: So Phil, what you are saying is that old or black women are ugly?



Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly is to the bone.

No race or age is excluded, but nice try at a racist spin. Not surprising you tried to go there.

DarnoKonrad: "Yes I did."

OK. Where in that story does it say that the attorney general of Honduras is claiming that Zelaya's removal from power was illegal? Nowhere, because he doesn't. In fact, he wanted Zelaya turned over not to restore him to power, but to prosecute him for treason.

It's funny that you would make condescending statements when you can't prove your point. I still would like to see any evidence that removing Zelaya from the presidency was illegal under Honduran law. If you can provide any evidence, I'll be happy to read it.

rastjr: People that use the ignore button are missing out on the whole experience of Fark.

Ask Phil Herup. We don't agree on anything but we have learned to respect each other. He might be the coolest dude on here.

Your dumb.

Tor_Eckman: "Your dumb."

Haha

canyoneer: DarnoKonrad: "Yes I did."

OK. Where in that story does it say that the attorney general of Honduras is claiming that Zelaya's removal from power was illegal? Nowhere, because he doesn't. In fact, he wanted Zelaya turned over not to restore him to power, but to prosecute him for treason.

It's funny that you would make condescending statements when you can't prove your point. I still would like to see any evidence that removing Zelaya from the presidency was illegal under Honduran law. If you can provide any evidence, I'll be happy to read it.

What the President tried to do in Honduras was wrong and he should be prosecuted by the laws, not by the military, it's a basic concept.

canyoneer: Tor_Eckman: "Your dumb."

Haha


That would have been a good time for a "Your a idiot" bomb.

Russky: "What the President tried to do in Honduras was wrong and he should be prosecuted by the laws, not by the military, it's a basic concept."

But what actually happened?

The supreme court and Congress, and Zelaya's own party and the main opposition party, ruled and voted for his removal from the presidency, the attorney general indicted him for treason, and then the supreme court ordered the military to remove him from the presidential palace. There is no evidence that any of this was illegal under Honduran law or unconstitutional under the Honduran constitution.

If you have any evidence that this was illegal under Honduran law, I will be glad to read it.

Oh wait, we like France and Germany now? The remnants of the discredited neocon army move the goals faster than HotShot Arcade Basketball...

You don't want to put this thing on the 'neocon' setting...it would just be a blur

canyoneer: Tor_Eckman: "Your dumb."

Haha

I figured it would be appropriate to use ijit Phil's misspell troll under these circumstances.

I see it worked.

Tor_Eckman: rastjr: People that use the ignore button are missing out on the whole experience of Fark.

Ask Phil Herup. We don't agree on anything but we have learned to respect each other. He might be the coolest dude on here.

Your dumb.

Oh man, priceless. Tor_Eckman Total Fark. Tor, would you like to apologise or are you going to be a douche? I don't start 'em but I do finish 'em.