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(American Thinker) Obvious Obama has repeatedly snubbed democratic allies Britain, France and Germany, failed to really stand for Iranian democracy, and now backs the Honduran communist who illegally tried to stay in power. Sounds about right, actually   (americanthinker.com) divider line 288
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IHaveaDoubt 2009-07-02 08:33:17 AM  
Came for the early morning whaaargrrrbl.

\\was not disappointed

 
Phil Herup 2009-07-02 08:36:28 AM  
ragekage: Phil Herup: darkhorse23: Freepers are like the ugly girl who didn't get invited to the prom, so they sit around and talk about how ugly and fat the prom queen is,



Nice spin. I thought the Dems had a monopoly on ugly, and most likely did not produce that many prom queens.

Ahh, Phil, that's right- you're too much of a troll to actually have an opinion, you just threadshiat. How could I forget?


Right I'm threadshiatting. darkhorse23 makes a completely ridiculous statement about fat ugly freepers... a bunch of you "geniuses" are are" Oh yeah... they ugly... they take it in the ass.... that is a very good analogy..."

I just post one pic and I'm threadshiatting. Oh, that is rich. So typical

 
detfrost1 [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 08:38:26 AM  
American Thinker should change it's name to "American's pulling this shiat out of our ass".

 
Murkanen 2009-07-02 08:38:48 AM  
Doublek111: mind addressing the facts of the article?

They managed to fit facts into an American Thinker article? Their whargarglers must be slipping.

 
liam76 2009-07-02 08:40:12 AM  
Robert1966: But if you then remove him from power in a coup instead of impeaching him according to the Honduran constitution, which one is the greater violation of the rule of law?

I have yet to see anyone link or post anything relevant to the Honduran constitution that says they violated their "impeachment" or even if they require one. In their system maybe the Supreme Court or the legislature can directly remove someone without the two step process we have. Barring any evidence they violated their process I have to go witht he opinion of their supreme court and the unanimous voice of their congress that what they did was allowable.

 
Phil Herup 2009-07-02 08:40:47 AM  
eraser8: Right wing satirical images are never funny. Never. They are never insightful. They are never well done.



Translation: "Na na na na na na ... I can't hear you."


tbn3.google.com

 
obzerver 2009-07-02 08:41:16 AM  
Bucky Katt: This is so true! The UN and OAS support this guy and everyone knows they're full of communists. Maybe BHO should threaten to make Honduras a glass parking lot. And give the German chancellor a neck rub. I heard she loves that.

Glass parking lot? Hey genius. The size of Honduras is about 68,000 miles. Who the h@ll is paying for all the Windex? Huh? HUH?

/didn't think I would find the hole in your cunning little plan did you?

 
Cozret 2009-07-02 08:41:26 AM  
I'm starting to think it's time to give the right wing a reason for their persecution complex. Honestly, I think they would be happier if they didn't have to fake being oppressed.

 
DirkValentine 2009-07-02 08:42:54 AM  
Sleeping Monkey: www.joeydevilla.com

that's excellent!

 
eraser8 2009-07-02 08:42:57 AM  
Phil Herup: darkhorse23 makes a completely ridiculous statement about fat ugly freepers...

Actually, he made a very apt analogy between bitter, shunned fat girls and bitter, shunned freepers.

And just like fat girls who self-destructively engorge themselves with junk food to make themselves feel better, freepers self-destructively engorge themselves on the same wharrgarbly nonsense that got their guys kicked out of office in the first place.

 
NeverDrunk23 2009-07-02 08:43:07 AM  
GAT_00: Actually, I'm more trying to kill his alt by following him around and making him not come back to the thread.

Not a good idea. The mods will then claim that you are trolling one of their cashcows.

GAT_00: ragekage: Dude, he don't give a damn.

He hasn't come back either, has he?


That account hasn't come back, but the actual user behind that account will come back in some form to this thread.

 
HotWingConspiracy [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 08:44:24 AM  
liam76: Robert1966: But if you then remove him from power in a coup instead of impeaching him according to the Honduran constitution, which one is the greater violation of the rule of law?

I have yet to see anyone link or post anything relevant to the Honduran constitution that says they violated their "impeachment" or even if they require one. In their system maybe the Supreme Court or the legislature can directly remove someone without the two step process we have. Barring any evidence they violated their process I have to go witht he opinion of their supreme court and the unanimous voice of their congress that what they did was allowable.


It really looks like they did everything by the (their) book. The true test will be in November when their elections are due.

I can understand our desire for stability and the avoidance of a military coup, but we should probably stay the hell out of it for now.

 
jso2897 2009-07-02 08:44:35 AM  
Yeah, whatever. More bullshiat. Nobody cares anymore.

 
DarnoKonrad 2009-07-02 08:44:44 AM  
liam76: Robert1966: But if you then remove him from power in a coup instead of impeaching him according to the Honduran constitution, which one is the greater violation of the rule of law?

I have yet to see anyone link or post anything relevant to the Honduran constitution that says they violated their "impeachment" or even if they require one. In their system maybe the Supreme Court or the legislature can directly remove someone without the two step process we have. Barring any evidence they violated their process I have to go witht he opinion of their supreme court and the unanimous voice of their congress that what they did was allowable.


The Honduran attorney general's office launched an investigation into why President Manuel Zelaya was flown out of the country Sunday and not taken before a judge, a top law enforcement official said Wednesday.

Deputy Attorney General Roy David Urtecho said his office filed charges against Zelaya last week for abuse of power and treason, and issued an arrest warrant. It's unclear, he said, why the president was taken to Costa Rica instead of court.
(new window)


Even the farking Attorney General said the way it's done was irregular.

 
whconner4 2009-07-02 08:45:38 AM  
So he's supporting the rule of law?

COMMIE!

 
eraser8 2009-07-02 08:47:09 AM  
Phil Herup: Translation: "Na na na na na na ... I can't hear you."

That's more your response to my post than it is a translation of what I wrote.

I know how bad right wing satire actually is precisely because I actually open my eyes and give it a chance. But it's just never funny. It just comes across as bitter, like you're all a bunch of sore losers who are too dumb to get your act together so you throw rocks at the other guy.

Don't you ever get embarrassed by posting such crappy work?

 
liam76 2009-07-02 08:47:19 AM  
I wish an article that dealt witht he facts in Honduras and Obama's reaction woudl get green lighted instead of one half filled with soft on Iran rants.

For the record I think he did the right thing with Iran. Honduras, however, his head has been up his ass.

 
DirkValentine 2009-07-02 08:48:15 AM  
Sleeping Monkey: www.joeydevilla.com

oh, a friend just pointed out there is a space ship in there, too.

 
Skleenar 2009-07-02 08:48:20 AM  
This line of attack is cute, especially since it comes from the people who coined the term "Bush Derangement Syndrome".

 
crab66 2009-07-02 08:49:37 AM  
Phil Herup: eraser8: Right wing satirical images are never funny. Never. They are never insightful. They are never well done.



Translation: "Na na na na na na ... I can't hear you."


img10.imageshack.us

 
Murkanen 2009-07-02 08:50:01 AM  
Cozret: Honestly, I think they would be happier if they didn't have to fake being oppressed.

They have a comic featuring Hannity as some sort of cyborg radio pirate with Coulter and Co. as his conspirators as they desperately try to fight against what was essentially the polar opposite of the government system portrayed in V for Vendetta.

That was very bizarre.

 
Skleenar 2009-07-02 08:50:53 AM  
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Clarence Potter 2009-07-02 08:51:28 AM  
liam76: Honduras, however, his head has been up his ass.

Specifically, why?

 
DarnoKonrad 2009-07-02 08:52:03 AM  
Skleenar: Should Obama rape Grandma? Yes | No

Before or after he pushes her down the steps?

 
eraser8 2009-07-02 08:52:47 AM  
Skleenar: Other important questions:

Should Obama kick this puppy? Yes | No
Should Obama outlaw Christianity? Yes | No
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I don't know about the others...but he should definitely rape Grandma.

 
t3knomanser 2009-07-02 08:55:25 AM  
Politics threads make me long for the utter destruction of the US government, if only to make the noise stop. I'm perpetually stunned by the way two people can look at the same event, and, thanks to the distortional lens of their political alignment, reach such wildly divergent conclusions about the event that I'm no longer sure that they're examining the same event.

Watching liberals and conservatives go at it- it's like watching a character with Chaotic Evil bickering with a Lawful Evil character. They're both evil, they just have different ways of doing it.

 
Phil Herup 2009-07-02 08:55:27 AM  
eraser8: Phil Herup: Translation: "Na na na na na na ... I can't hear you."


That's more your response to my post than it is a translation of what I wrote.




Perfect example of the classic " No U!" response.


tbn0.google.com

 
Basij 2009-07-02 08:55:31 AM  
Robert1966: But if you then remove him from power in a coup instead of impeaching him according to the Honduran constitution, which one is the greater violation of the rule of law?

I'm not saying the answer is obvious, but it's not a shock that a leader in the United States would consider the forced exile of a head of state a bit less legitimate than an illegitimate referendum.


It must be remember that he did not seek merely to hold this referendum. He defied orders from the Supreme Court of Honduras and the Honduran national assembly in doing so. When the commander of the Honduran military would not cooperate with said violation of the wishes of the legislature and judiciary (to say nothing of the constitution) he was sacked. He then defied the Supreme Court's orders to reinstate said commander. When the military still refused to participate he himself led a mob of his supporters to an Air Force base and seized the ballots so he could distribute them without the military's assistance, again in violation of Honduran law.

Holding a referendum is one thing. Assaulting military bases with mobs of your supporters, defying the wishes of the legislature and the orders of the supreme court is something more severe, regardless your opinion on whether or not the military was proper in deposing him.

 
Basij 2009-07-02 08:56:39 AM  
...remembered, even. Arrg, too early to troll. Too early.

 
zephyy 2009-07-02 08:57:39 AM  
list of incredibly ironic right wing magazines/website names:
reason
american thinker

 
eraser8 2009-07-02 08:59:44 AM  
Phil Herup: Perfect example of the classic " No U!" response.

Project much?

Anyhoo, you never answered the question: Don't you ever get embarrassed by posting such crappy work?

I know it's tough, but have at least a little pride, man. Your whiny and bitter schtick comes off as, well, whiny and bitter.

 
dittybopper [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-02 08:59:52 AM  
DarnoKonrad: Skleenar: Should Obama rape Grandma? Yes | No

Before or after he pushes her down the steps?


I'm thinking after: With a broken hip, she'll be more flexible.

 
adamgreeney 2009-07-02 09:01:29 AM  
Phil Herup: eraser8: Phil Herup: Translation: "Na na na na na na ... I can't hear you."


That's more your response to my post than it is a translation of what I wrote.



Perfect example of the classic " No U!" response.


I like how you try to defend yourself from the thredshiatting accusations by posting irrelevant pictures and not engaging in any kind of discourse. Classic.

 
Maddogjew [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 09:02:46 AM  
Phil, you always threadshiat. It is your defining characteristic. Anyway, don't you have any patients today in your highly successful dental clinic? I would think that you would be too busy to post during office hours. But hey, what do I know? You may be the dentist's equivalent of the Maytag man. Well, either that, or you are full of shiat... again.

 
dittybopper [recently expired TotalFark] 2009-07-02 09:04:50 AM  
Basij:
Holding a referendum is one thing. Assaulting military bases with mobs of your supporters, defying the wishes of the legislature and the orders of the supreme court is something more severe, regardless your opinion on whether or not the military was proper in deposing him.


This is why I'm a bit ambivalent about this situation. Obviously, the preferred way to deal with this is via civil procedures, but I can understand the actions of the military given that it's not entirely clear that Honduras has an impeachment process robust enough to deal with situations like this.

Sometimes you have to chose between two equally crappy alternatives, and hope you picked the right one.

 
liam76 2009-07-02 09:05:04 AM  
DarnoKonrad: The Honduran attorney general's office launched an investigation into why President Manuel Zelaya was flown out of the country Sunday and not taken before a judge, a top law enforcement official said Wednesday.

Deputy Attorney General Roy David Urtecho said his office filed charges against Zelaya last week for abuse of power and treason, and issued an arrest warrant. It's unclear, he said, why the president was taken to Costa Rica instead of court. (new window)


Even the farking Attorney General said the way it's done was irregular.


The attorney general said sending him out of the country was irregular, not the arrest or removal from power.

Big difference.

It is a coup if you illegally remove someone from power, not if you legally remove them from power then give them the boot.

Maybe this is old news to you, but I am guessing fromt he date on the article it is pretty recent. Until now I haven't seen a single govt official complain of any irregularities.


Clarence Potter: Specifically, why?

Calling it a coup.

You and I may think it is odd or wrong to have the military involved, but it isn't our country. The military according to the supreme court and the congress was th appropriate body to remove and arrest him. A coup doesn't have the backing of the Supreme Court, and the unanimous support of the Congress. The only irregularity that has been pointed out (see above) was by the attorney general for sending the pres out of the country, and for the record the attorney general has said he backs the arrest.

So the facts we have from the country now, at worst, say they crossed the line by kicking him out, not by arresting him, and not by removing him from power.

 
Murkanen 2009-07-02 09:05:23 AM  
t3knomanser: Watching liberals and conservatives go at it- it's like watching a character with Chaotic Evil bickering with a Lawful Evil character. They're both evil, they just have different ways of doing it.

raoworld.files.wordpress.com

 
BertDog 2009-07-02 09:05:42 AM  
So should we party like its 1955 and meddle in every affair in Iran and Central America?

At some point people have to choose to be free. We can't give it to them by pointing our guns at their oppressors. If we do we marginalize the demonstrators as tools of the American Empire. Similarly, we give those in power a common, external enemy to rally the country around. Shoot your neighbor is a much tougher sell than shoot the American interloper.

 
Blathering Idjut 2009-07-02 09:05:48 AM  
Wait, cons are now pissed that Obama's snubbing FRANCE? Wtf?

 
Lord_Baull 2009-07-02 09:06:06 AM  
The conservative author must have balls the size of Idaho to ignore the fact that Bush alienated our allies in Europe and failed democracy in Iraq.

This isn't a "b.b..b..but, Bush" because I'm not attacking Bush, I'm attacking this moran that was apparently under a rock for the past 6 years.

 
Jacobin 2009-07-02 09:08:00 AM  
Yes. Because we all know how much the right wing loves to love France.

 
equilibrium 2009-07-02 09:09:43 AM  
Maddogjew: Phil, you always threadshiat. It is your defining characteristic. Anyway, don't you have any patients today in your highly successful dental clinic? I would think that you would be too busy to post during office hours. But hey, what do I know? You may be the dentist's equivalent of the Maytag man. Well, either that, or you are full of shiat... again.

The only person I see sitting at a computer at my dentist office for any length of time is the receptionist. Just a little food for thought on Phil's high paying career.

 
L82DPRT 2009-07-02 09:10:15 AM  
So long as everything is running smooth at United Fruit. Hate for the banana supply to be disrupted.

 
Lord_Baull 2009-07-02 09:10:37 AM  
furiousxgeorge 2009-07-02 12:26:06 AM
American "Thinker" is very concerned that we aren't being nice enough to the French.


Conservatives are still upset that liberals made them change the name to Freedom Fries. They didn't want to snub their European allies.

 
DarnoKonrad 2009-07-02 09:11:19 AM  
liam76: The attorney general said sending him out of the country was irregular, not the arrest or removal from power.

Big difference.

It is a coup if you illegally remove someone from power, not if you legally remove them from power then give them the boot.

Maybe this is old news to you, but I am guessing fromt he date on the article it is pretty recent. Until now I haven't seen a single govt official complain of any irregularities.


This is not rocket science liam.

"a Honduran authority suggested that forcing Zelaya into exile might have been illegal."


Rule of law demands due process. Shuttling his ass to the border is not due process. You have to make him face the charges against him. What happened was a coup. Which why every nation in the western hemisphere is calling it a coup.

 
Phil Herup 2009-07-02 09:11:25 AM  
Maddogjew: You may be the dentist's equivalent of the Maytag man. Well, either that, or you are full of shiat... again.



Do you even have all of your teeth?

How many have you lost so far?

 
sn0r 2009-07-02 09:16:41 AM  
Ah.. another republitard topic on fark.

The mods should really start showing who has submitted the headline and who greenlit it so we could have a laugh at their expense.

 
Maddogjew [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 09:18:56 AM  
Phil Herup: Do you even have all of your teeth?

How many have you lost so far?


Just a couple of wisdom teeth. Why, you want pics? If I send them to you, it will probably be the only dental related thing you see all day. Just think everyone, I could have a fake dentist inspect a picture of my teeth! Joy!

 
Tanishh 2009-07-02 09:21:28 AM  
Phil Herup: darkhorse23: Freepers are like the ugly girl who didn't get invited to the prom, so they sit around and talk about how ugly and fat the prom queen is,



Nice spin. I thought the Dems had a monopoly on ugly, and most likely did not produce that many prom queens.


That's odd, because I could've sworn that the GOP's resident queen biatch (Coulter) is always moaning about how much women love the Dems and how the Dems wouldn't have won any elections in the last fifty years without women.

Most women of all races tend to vote with the Dems, therefore the Dems have a monopoly on all women, including those who are hot and those who are not.

 
Lord_Baull 2009-07-02 09:22:51 AM  
Phil Herup is a modern day FlashLV.
He comes in, threadshiats, then spends the rest of the thread moving the goalposts and obfuscating.

 
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