seems like there's a lot of whiny MLB players

They also have the worst pizza in the known universe. So, they have that going for them, which is nice.

NewportBarGuy: They also have the worst pizza in the known universe. So, they have that going for them, which is nice.

Chicago actually has two styles of pizza unique to the area.

One is the one many people rag on (especially on Fark), the deep dish, and it's cousin, the stuffed pizza. That is just a matter of if you are in the mood for a deep dish or a thinner pizza at the time.

The second is "Chicago style thin crust":


Which is my fav type of pizza, much more than "NYC Steamroller ran over it" pizza.

Sucks...blows...blah blah blah windy city.

dletter: NewportBarGuy: They also have the worst pizza in the known universe. So, they have that going for them, which is nice.

Chicago actually has two styles of pizza unique to the area.

One is the one many people rag on (especially on Fark), the deep dish, and it's cousin, the stuffed pizza. That is just a matter of if you are in the mood for a deep dish or a thinner pizza at the time.

The second is "Chicago style thin crust":


Which is my fav type of pizza, much more than "NYC Steamroller ran over it" pizza.

If you're going to make an argument in favor of Chicago pizza, perhaps you should have picked a photo of a pizza that looks about as appetizing as a $5 Little Caesar's pizza.

mjoven1975: dletter: NewportBarGuy: They also have the worst pizza in the known universe. So, they have that going for them, which is nice.

Chicago actually has two styles of pizza unique to the area.

One is the one many people rag on (especially on Fark), the deep dish, and it's cousin, the stuffed pizza. That is just a matter of if you are in the mood for a deep dish or a thinner pizza at the time.

The second is "Chicago style thin crust":


Which is my fav type of pizza, much more than "NYC Steamroller ran over it" pizza.

If you're going to make an argument in favor of Chicago pizza, perhaps you shouldn't have picked a photo of a pizza that looks about as appetizing as a $5 Little Caesar's pizza.

FTFM

mjoven1975: mjoven1975: dletter: NewportBarGuy: They also have the worst pizza in the known universe. So, they have that going for them, which is nice.

Chicago actually has two styles of pizza unique to the area.

One is the one many people rag on (especially on Fark), the deep dish, and it's cousin, the stuffed pizza. That is just a matter of if you are in the mood for a deep dish or a thinner pizza at the time.

The second is "Chicago style thin crust":


Which is my fav type of pizza, much more than "NYC Steamroller ran over it" pizza.

If you're going to make an argument in favor of Chicago pizza, perhaps you shouldn't have picked a photo of a pizza that looks about as appetizing as a $5 Little Caesar's pizza.

FTFM



There we go.

/Bob damn I'm hungry now.
//Haven't had any in six months :-(
///Pizza, you pervs!

So Joe Torre was voted 4th in the "least favorite manager to play for" poll but also 2nd in the "survey for which manager a player would most like to play for" poll? WTF?!

CNN fails on so many levels

/Go Dodgers!

By the way, FTFA:

Four of these managers have won World Series titles.

Says all you need to know about this poll. I'll take a winner over a Homecoming King any day.

mjoven1975: If you're going to make an argument in favor of Chicago pizza, perhaps you shouldn't have picked a photo of a pizza that looks about as appetizing as a $5 Little Caesar's pizza.

I liked Little Caesar's when I lived in the desert and there was no good pizza whatsoever. But I've since moved away, and I believe Albuquerque has since found a couple of good pizza recipes.

Nunzios was really good pizza in the early 90s but alas they managed the business all wrong...Pretty sad for a family business.

According to what I say earlier, Tony LaRussa finished behind both Chicago managers.

jaylectricity: mjoven1975: If you're going to make an argument in favor of Chicago pizza, perhaps you shouldn't have picked a photo of a pizza that looks about as appetizing as a $5 Little Caesar's pizza.

I liked Little Caesar's when I lived in the desert and there was no good pizza whatsoever. But I've since moved away, and I believe Albuquerque has since found a couple of good pizza recipes.

Nunzios was really good pizza in the early 90s but alas they managed the business all wrong...Pretty sad for a family business.

Little Caesar's is okay when you're drunk/and or broke. Living in CA it's hard to find a decent pizza, but Little Caesar's is pretty much bottom of the barrel. I do like their Crazy bread though.

aquigley: seems like there's a lot of whiny MLB players

Bing, done, collect your prize.

mjoven1975: Little Caesar's is okay when you're drunk/and or broke. Living in CA it's hard to find a decent pizza, but Little Caesar's is pretty much bottom of the barrel. I do like their Crazy bread though.

I've got a disgusting little fondness for their cheese bread. It'll make your car reek of garlic on the drive home and you should probably stay in for the night after eating it, but it's so good.

NewportBarGuy: They also have the worst pizza in the known universe. So, they have that going for them, which is nice.

A mushy bread casserole ain't a pizza.

The Great EZE: Says all you need to know about this poll. I'll take a winner over a Homecoming King any day.

I'm not sure "once a winner always a winner" is really true in sports...

USA USA...I mean CHICAGO CHICAGO CHICAGO

I can see why certain people wouldn't want to play for Ozzie, but c'mon, the man just wins. He only talks shiat about you when you actually suck. I like that as a fan

dletter: Which is my fav type of pizza, much more than "NYC Steamroller ran over it" pizza.

huh? Isn't Chicago thin crust THINNER, thus more steamrollered, than NYC style?

The pizza fights on fark are always amusing because Chicago fans can't get their disses straight. From what I've learned on fark, NYC style pizza is too greasy but doesn't have any cheese, is steamrolled but too thick and unwieldy, has doughy uncooked crust that is too crisp and cardboardy, has too much sauce but not enough , etc.

FTA: "Looks like players picked old-school guys," Guillen said when told of the results. "Maybe they don't like old school, don't like to be told what to do."

Yeah, that's what it is, Ozzie. It has nothing to do with you being a complete ass.

2005?

dskot1: So Joe Torre was voted 4th in the "least favorite manager to play for" poll but also 2nd in the "survey for which manager a player would most like to play for" poll? WTF?!

CNN fails on so many levels

/Go Dodgers!

It's a SI poll, based on MLB player response, so how is that CNN fail? It's misidentified in the link description but it does go to SI.com.

deadsanta: It's a SI poll, based on MLB player response, so how is that CNN fail? It's misidentified in the link description but it does go to SI.com.

Yeah, Fark automatically makes Si.com a CNN link for some reason (I mean, parent company but....)

I'm guessing players would pick Joe Maddon as a the manager they'd want to play for the most.

Considering he seems like the kind of guy that would respond with a random passage from Macbeth when asked about whether or not to put on a hit-and-run in a crucial moment late in a game, I would too, just for the hilarity.

Bill Frist: huh? Isn't Chicago thin crust THINNER, thus more steamrollered, than NYC style?

The pizza fights on fark are always amusing because Chicago fans can't get their disses straight. From what I've learned on fark, NYC style pizza is too greasy but doesn't have any cheese, is steamrolled but too thick and unwieldy, has doughy uncooked crust that is too crisp and cardboardy, has too much sauce but not enough , etc.

I always come across those threads when they're already in the hundreds (you guys are almost as bad as beer flamethrowers), but I just want something not so...dang...gummy. Give me thin and crispy every time. And I could also do without those eight square foot slices. And don't be afraid of toppings. They're there to help you. That's it.

I'm not a fan of Lou, but at least he shows a little emotion when a pitcher refuses to throw a strike to the 8 and 9 hitter and loads the bases for the top of the line up.

Players are used to hearing "Aw, tough outing kid, you'll get em next time" when they need to hear "Throw a farking strike, you pussy"

The Great EZE: I always come across those threads when they're already in the hundreds (you guys are almost as bad as beer flamethrowers), but I just want something not so...dang...gummy. Give me thin and crispy every time. And I could also do without those eight square foot slices. And don't be afraid of toppings. They're there to help you. That's it.

I honestly have no idea what you are attacking here. Gummy sounds like chicago deep dish, eight square foot sounds like NYC slice kinda, but being afraid of toppings sounds like chicago thin crust.

wha?

Bill Frist: The pizza fights on fark are always amusing because Chicago fans can't get their disses straight. From what I've learned on fark, NYC style pizza is too greasy but doesn't have any cheese, is steamrolled but too thick and unwieldy, has doughy uncooked crust that is too crisp and cardboardy, has too much sauce but not enough , etc.

I think Chicago likes to pick fights with you for the sake of it. Chicagoans would argue they spread cream cheese on a bagel better if you let them.

Bill Frist: I honestly have no idea what you are attacking here. Gummy sounds like chicago deep dish, eight square foot sounds like NYC slice kinda, but being afraid of toppings sounds like chicago thin crust.

Well I'm strictly a thin cruster. Chicago is crunchy while NYC is soft, which I guess is supposed to facilitate folding but...yeesh. Oh yeah, and what's with the toppings (such as they are) on top of the cheese? Minor nitpick but come on, cheese on top. These are fixable things! :-)

To me, a former Chicagoan, Chicago-style thin crust is cooked almost but not burnt so it's crispy like a cracker, with the toppings under the cheese (which I guess makes them not really toppings). And it is delicious.

My experiences with New York style pizza have been soggy, spongy messes that you can fold in half and eat. Eww.

Its pretty easy to find crispy crust in NYC. I mean, they are supposed to be pretty crips kinda like "cardboard."

Y'all fools gotta stop eating at sbarro's and thinking you just had an authentic NYC meal

I'd play for Ozzie just to listen to what he happens to say on any given day...Montreal pizza. You don't know what you're missing, besides all the extra cheese and grease. Yum !

mjoven1975: If you're going to make an argument in favor of Chicago pizza, perhaps you should have picked a photo of a pizza that looks about as appetizing as a $5 Little Caesar's pizza.

Just try it. Trust me.

Bill Frist: The pizza fights on fark are always amusing because Chicago fans can't get their disses straight. From what I've learned on fark, NYC style pizza is too greasy but doesn't have any cheese, is steamrolled but too thick and unwieldy, has doughy uncooked crust that is too crisp and cardboardy, has too much sauce but not enough , etc.

It's fun to pick on NYC. We like watching their egos explode.

dskot1: So Joe Torre was voted 4th in the "least favorite manager to play for" poll but also 2nd in the "survey for which manager a player would most like to play for" poll? WTF?!

CNN fails on so many levels

/Go Dodgers!

I think that reflects on Torre's approach at managing players. If the player performs on his own, Torre will let him do whatever he wants. If there's someone slacking out there though, he's going to have some uncomfortable closed-door meetings.

Could also be that Torre's one of the ugliest-looking men alive.

/Surprised that Jim Leyland isn't on the list of favorite managers to play for.

dskot1: So Joe Torre was voted 4th in the "least favorite manager to play for" poll but also 2nd in the "survey for which manager a player would most like to play for" poll? WTF?!

CNN fails on so many levels

/Go Dodgers!

The poll is incredibly stupid because -- as happened -- the most well-known managers were picked on both sides. That is always the case with a poll like this.

Bill Frist: Its pretty easy to find crispy crust in NYC. I mean, they are supposed to be pretty crips kinda like "cardboard."

Y'all fools gotta stop eating at sbarro's and thinking you just had an authentic NYC meal

This. Getting off the train a penn station and wandering into a "the real" famous rays doesn't qualify.

dskot1: So Joe Torre was voted 4th in the "least favorite manager to play for" poll but also 2nd in the "survey for which manager a player would most like to play for" poll? WTF?!

CNN fails on so many levels

/Go Dodgers!

I just realized that if it had been the manager of the Indians in this position, you would call that a Wedge issue among baseball players.

I think this poll is a farce. The only reason why the top 4 are on there that high is because of how much media attention they draw. I didn't click the remaining 25 but I am sure the last one will be a manager from a 2nd rate team that doesn't have a big market.

lefdeee: FTA: "Looks like players picked old-school guys," Guillen said when told of the results. "Maybe they don't like old school, don't like to be told what to do."

Yeah, that's what it is, Ozzie. It has nothing to do with you being a complete ass completely batshiat crazy.

FTFY

/the crazy is strong in Sweet Lou too

Bee Roo Ga Ho Shee
When asked "with whom would you most like to share a cold beer on a warm Christmas, reminiscing about baseball days long gone, when you could put your players with the lowest OBP at the top of the lineup, start your favorite players regardless of statistics, ruin young pitchers by letting them throw 850 innings a season, all while eating 5-cent gingerbread cookies in the dugout?", the players unanimously voted for Dusty Baker.

You win, thread over!!!

All we ask for are some playoff wins, Lou.

/simple as that

Bee Roo Ga Ho Shee: When asked "with whom would you most like to share a cold beer on a warm Christmas, reminiscing about baseball days long gone, when you could put your players with the lowest OBP at the top of the lineup, start your favorite players regardless of statistics, ruin young pitchers by letting them throw 850 innings a season, all while eating 5-cent gingerbread cookies in the dugout?", the players unanimously voted for Dusty Baker.

LOL. In Chicago Dusty would always prop up whatever motivational book he was supposedly reading so that it would appear on camera behind him as he stood at the end of the dugout chewing on his signature toothpick. The man loves branding.

The Great EZE: Bill Frist: I honestly have no idea what you are attacking here. Gummy sounds like chicago deep dish, eight square foot sounds like NYC slice kinda, but being afraid of toppings sounds like chicago thin crust.

Well I'm strictly a thin cruster. Chicago is crunchy while NYC is soft, which I guess is supposed to facilitate folding but...yeesh. Oh yeah, and what's with the toppings (such as they are) on top of the cheese? Minor nitpick but come on, cheese on top. These are fixable things! :-)

Toppings under cheese may as well not even be there. Why do you think they're called TOPPINGS. If they were supposed to be under the cheese, they'd be "middlings" or "insidings." There was a local place that started putting the pepperoni under the cheese a few years back. You had to explicitly order it on top and they regularly screwed that up. The only way the put them on top was to order double-pepperoni, which would be fine except for the fact that you had to pay more for them to make a pizza the right way.

I love how all baseball threads on Fark are Cub-related.

RonwellQuincyDobbs: I love how all baseball threads on Fark are Cub-related.

Nuh-uh. There were 2 threads yesterday making fun of the Mets.

Had thin-crust Chicago pizza on Sunday. Straight cheese. It was delicious.

PopeSchmope:
It's fun to pick on NYC. We like watching their egos explode.

Are you being intentionally ironic? Every NY hating thread just ends with Chicagoans, Bostonites, Philladelphians or whatever new group has sand in their ugly bits over how much more boring their city is having a fit while the NYers just laugh.

RonwellQuincyDobbs: Toppings under cheese may as well not even be there. Why do you think they're called TOPPINGS. If they were supposed to be under the cheese, they'd be "middlings" or "insidings."

Toppings under the cheese can work sometimes, but they cook differently and for most toppings it farks it up I think.

I hope the Mets players weren't the ones not wanting to play for Ozzie, since we've seen plenty of Jerry Manuel around these parts, and Ozzie is a better manager. Also, far more entertaining.

And how this turned into a pizza thread is beyond me, but I'll say this -- I had Pizano's thin crust the other night and it kicked the crap out of anything I've ever had in NYC.

I realize deep dish is a matter of taste. New Yorkers obviously don't have it.

its a pizza thread because pizza is like 800x more interesting than baseball.


the all-time best cubs manager moment [nsfw language on the audio]
Lee Elia's classic rant (new window)

GQueue: I realize deep dish is a matter of taste. New Yorkers obviously don't have it.

I dunno, I loves me some deep dish. Different, but good.

For me though, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, will ever top the Sicilian at L&B in Brooklyn.

FreakinB: GQueue: I realize deep dish is a matter of taste. New Yorkers obviously don't have it.

I dunno, I loves me some deep dish. Different, but good.

For me though, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, will ever top the Sicilian at L&B in Brooklyn.

Eh L+B's sicilian is overrated, not enough cheese, and what's with the sauce on top? I mean the sauce is fantastic, but the balance is just off for my taste. Now the spumoni there, that may just be the best on Earth.

Best sicilian = Davinci's on 18th and 65th in bensonhurst.

Bill Frist: RonwellQuincyDobbs: Toppings under cheese may as well not even be there. Why do you think they're called TOPPINGS. If they were supposed to be under the cheese, they'd be "middlings" or "insidings."

Toppings under the cheese can work sometimes, but they cook differently and for most toppings it farks it up I think.

This. A properly loaded pizza will have some toppings on top, where toppings belong, and others under the cheese because they cook properly there. Onions are a good example of an under-the-cheese topping. Onions on top burn easy so you have to pay very close attention to your oven temp and cook time. Uner the cheese you can cook it just like you would a cheese only and have it come out just fine.

/just an amateur

Ball of Confusion: its a pizza thread because pizza is like 800x more interesting than baseball.

This.

/Chicago-style for me, please

GQueue: I realize deep dish is a matter of taste. New Yorkers obviously don't have it.

Haha, yeah New Yorkers just don't have the sophisticated palate it takes to handle a shiatty bread bowl loaded filled with five pounds of greasy cheese, sauce and butter.

Perhaps you meant "a matter of obesity"?

Bill Frist: Haha, yeah New Yorkers just don't have the sophisticated palate it takes to handle a shiatty bread bowl loaded filled

Well, apparently it's not sophisticated enough if you think that floppy junk you call "pizza" is so much better than anything anywhere else. The only thing New York pizza has on anywhere else is its being dirt-ass cheap and sold by the slice.

Bill Frist: Haha, yeah New Yorkers just don't have the sophisticated palate it takes to handle a shiatty bread bowl loaded filled with five pounds of greasy cheese, sauce and butter.

Perhaps you meant "a matter of obesity"?

And by the way, I was really just joking above, since you guys are such doucherockets about it I figured one of you would jump on it. News flash: everything in New York City is not the greatest thing ever. I'll give you this, you have the "best" hipsters, in that they're way, way more annoying and obnoxious than the goofs who live in my neighborhood.

I like NY AND Chicago pizza.

/Do I have to leave Fark?

GQueue: News flash: everything in New York City is not the greatest thing ever.

This is true.

however, everything in New York is greater than in Chicago. Theater, pizza, beer, restaurants etc. The perpetually second place city.

GQueue: I'll give you this, you have the "best" hipsters, in that they're way, way more annoying and obnoxious than the goofs who live in my neighborhood.

I actually think San Fran has taken this title from NYC recently.

The hipsters in NYC are indeed horrible... luckily they are confined to a few neighborhoods you can easily avoid though.

I'm sorry, but nothing New York has will ever top this.

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I'm sorry, but nothing New York has will ever top this.

That's my favorite, too. Do they have a booth at the Taste? I'm going after work today.

Brooklyn Irish Mets Fan: Eh L+B's sicilian is overrated, not enough cheese, and what's with the sauce on top? I mean the sauce is fantastic, but the balance is just off for my taste. Now the spumoni there, that may just be the best on Earth.

Best sicilian = Davinci's on 18th and 65th in bensonhurst.

For me, L&B is pizza + sentimental attachment. And by "sentimental attachment" I mean "I grew up with a family member living in the house directly behind L&B." The guys come out back and pass it over the fence. I'm kind of spoiled in that regard.

So I have some extra factors, but enough people agree that I feel like I haven't been misled.

tacchimonster: I'm sorry, but nothing New York has will ever top this.

That looks like Giordano's. Papa Passero's and Lou Malnotti's also make a wonderful pie.

Bill Frist: however, everything in New York is greater than in Chicago. Theater, pizza, beer, restaurants etc. The perpetually second place city.

I can't dispute the theater (even if it's something I could give a rat's ass about, it's only something that my wife drags me to maybe once a year, preferably less), but you're absolutely delusional if you think the beer is better in NYC.

What brewery in Chicago is as good as Brooklyn (with the caveat that brooklyn lager is pretty pedestrian)?

Bill Frist: What brewery in Chicago is as good as Brooklyn (with the caveat that brooklyn lager is pretty pedestrian)?

I'll look for it!

cheers to beer

RonwellQuincyDobbs: I love how all baseball threads on Fark are Cub-related.

Because that's the way I want it.

Bill Frist: What brewery in Chicago is as good as Brooklyn (with the caveat that brooklyn lager is pretty pedestrian)?

Goose Island should distribute in NY, or at least I'd think they would -- they have ins with the Bud distribution network and while they don't show up nationwide I do know that they are sold in England. If you can find the Bourbon County Stout or the Imperial IPA, that'd probably be the ideal ones. Matilda is good too. Unfortunately, some of their best stuff really only shows up in the brewpub, and only at the original Clybourn location at that (the one by Wrigley usually doesn't have as many on tap).

I like Brooklyn beers and especially appreciate what Garrett has done to try to educate people on food and beer, but I think we have it better on beers brewed here as well as what we have access to from distribution (even with our retarded distribution laws which have kept breweries like Stone from distributing here even though you can buy them in Michigan and Indiana). I suspect it's just too expensive to brew in New York City -- certainly that's the case in Manhattan. Given we're about 1/5 the size of NYC (all boroughs) but have as many or more breweries, there has to be a reason.

The near suburbs (which probably really isn't much different in drive time from areas of Manhattan to the breweries in Brooklyn) include breweries like Three Floyds, which may not distribute up there but brews a bunch of really good stuff.

Bill Frist: cheers to beer

I'll drink to that.

I must admit that, while I do think there are some good breweries around NYC like Brooklyn, I have no idea why I listed beer there. NYC is famous for a ton of things (music, restaurants, theater, comedy, pizza, literature, etc. etc.) but beer isn't one of them.

Guess I'm just thirsty....

Bill Frist: I must admit that, while I do think there are some good breweries around NYC like Brooklyn, I have no idea why I listed beer there. NYC is famous for a ton of things (music, restaurants, theater, comedy, pizza, literature, etc. etc.) but beer isn't one of them.

Guess I'm just thirsty....

Well, it's quittin time on a de facto Friday, that'll make anyone think of beer.

Two Brothers out in the west burbs of Chicago has some really nice beers as well.