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(Wired) Amusing Five albums that should be tossed into a black hole. "We may never see the likes of Chinese Democracy again. And that is a very, very good thing."   (wired.com) divider line 183
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Glitchwerks 2009-07-01 10:35:10 PM  
jake_lex:

Something inside me died watching that.


The scary part is that they have an album. I believe it is self-produced and not on any label at the moment. I hope to God it never finds an audience, but there's a 4-5 page thread on a reputable P2P site about it. Most people loathe it, but quite a few seem to like it. Go figure.

 
FeedTheCollapse 2009-07-01 10:35:45 PM  
Japancakes: So then it's possible (I'll grant you unlikely, but within the realm of possibility) that you might take a liking to what you heard if in fact you allowed yourself the time to listen to it? (Or at least knock it out of the running as the ABSOLUTE WORST music you've ever willingly subjected yourself to).

I'll grant you the possibility, but I don't feel the need to test out your hypothesis.

 
Japancakes [TotalFark] 2009-07-01 10:37:00 PM  
Like for instance I would throw the contents of the Creed and Nickleback discographies in but that's because I've actually listened (in an objective manner) everything those two groups produced and realize that those records contain nothing of any musical worth whatsoever.

 
Japancakes [TotalFark] 2009-07-01 10:41:11 PM  
Oh, and I feel the same way about the musical output of Nickelback.

 
Trainspotr 2009-07-01 10:43:27 PM  
Glitchwerks: Boris S. Wort: I will submit this as probably the worst album ever made...

Actually, if you guys want to know what some people think is the worst music out there right now...

It's right here.

Before forewarned...it's awful.


Wow. I made it a whole minute. And I have Bobby Sherman on my ipod.

 
simpsonfan 2009-07-01 10:50:21 PM  
'As Time Goes By', Lorne Greene. Yes, THAT Lorne Greene.
Anything by Paris Hilton. And toss her down there too.

 
Illidan 2009-07-01 10:54:50 PM  
Nurglitch: But I got Death Magnetic, threw it on the turn-table to listen, and turned it off about half-way through and listened to some klezmer. Maybe my tastes have changed.

No, it's just not as good. They're trying to match Kill Em All / Ride the Lightning but they don't have the same talent for artistic composition as before (and Hetfield can't pull off the effect).

 
FeedTheCollapse 2009-07-01 10:56:40 PM  
Glitchwerks: Boris S. Wort: I will submit this as probably the worst album ever made...

Actually, if you guys want to know what some people think is the worst music out there right now...

It's right here.

Before forewarned...it's awful.




same act, worse crap

 
tequilasundae 2009-07-01 10:58:18 PM  
i214.photobucket.com another let down followup
a5.vox.comsucked and wouldnt fit in any cd filing system

 
theorellior 2009-07-01 11:00:34 PM  
Illidan: They're trying to match Kill Em All / Ride the Lightning but they don't have the same talent for artistic composition as before (and Hetfield can't pull off the effect).

What's the missing ingredient, do you think? It might start with a "C" and end with "liff Burton".

At least, if you're trying to match KEA and RTL. Justice was a good album, and that had Newstead. But going back to the early, early days, you need Burton.

 
Delawheredad 2009-07-01 11:02:39 PM  
I picked up a Nickelback CD at the Good Will Store. I wanted to see if they were as bad as the Fark cliche. Man were they ever! I don't think I've ever listened to something that offered less rewards musically then that CD. I've heard better elevator music.

 
Mellonius 2009-07-01 11:06:48 PM  
Sherjo311:

Wow, I'm amazed anyone else even remembers Gravity Kills. Their first two albums were good, but Superstarved was absolutely not.

 
SPna15 2009-07-01 11:10:42 PM  
theorellior: Illidan: They're trying to match Kill Em All / Ride the Lightning but they don't have the same talent for artistic composition as before (and Hetfield can't pull off the effect).

What's the missing ingredient, do you think? It might start with a "C" and end with "liff Burton".


Nope. It actually starts with a "D" and ends with "ave Mustaine".

 
evildeathllama 2009-07-01 11:11:01 PM  
Glitchwerks: Boris S. Wort: I will submit this as probably the worst album ever made...

Actually, if you guys want to know what some people think is the worst music out there right now...

It's right here.

Before forewarned...it's awful.


I hesitate to post this, as it's not so much music as ear rape, but this is the worst track I've ever heard, even worse than that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzKbjoLUYok (new window)

 
MorganFreeman 2009-07-01 11:36:24 PM  
evildeathllama: Glitchwerks: Boris S. Wort: I will submit this as probably the worst album ever made...

Actually, if you guys want to know what some people think is the worst music out there right now...

It's right here.

Before forewarned...it's awful.

I hesitate to post this, as it's not so much music as ear rape, but this is the worst track I've ever heard, even worse than that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzKbjoLUYok (new window)


I love the disclaimer asking people to quit commenting on how much the song sucks.

 
ghare 2009-07-01 11:43:01 PM  
Oh you guys know NOTHING, if you can find THE SHEIK AL BELI MOVEMENT anywhere...oh man

/Yeah, I know Al.

 
RevMercutio [TotalFark] 2009-07-01 11:44:53 PM  
theorellior: Illidan: They're trying to match Kill Em All / Ride the Lightning but they don't have the same talent for artistic composition as before (and Hetfield can't pull off the effect).

What's the missing ingredient, do you think? It might start with a "C" and end with "liff Burton".

At least, if you're trying to match KEA and RTL. Justice was a good album, and that had Newstead.


That BARELY had Newstead. His bass was turned almost all the way down.

 
theorellior 2009-07-01 11:47:48 PM  
RevMercutio: That BARELY had Newstead. His bass was turned almost all the way down.

Alas, one of the drawbacks of Justice was that it was horribly, horribly mixed. The mids on the rhythm guitar would waffle on just about any system if turned up past "kinda loud". And I think Newstead had a presence, just not much of a sonic presence. ; )

 
boonfarker 2009-07-01 11:49:46 PM  
wpmulligan: Earth, Wind & Fire's Got to Get You Into My Life is the only cover of a Beatles song that is better than the original.

I do like that one better than the original, but for my money I prefer this over its original version as well.

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2009-07-01 11:53:29 PM  
fritopendejo: Radiohead- Kid A should be nuked from orbit as well.

funny, I was just listening to that on vinyl not even half an hour ago... [yup, i have it on cd *and* vinyl]

 
Fuggin Bizzy 2009-07-01 11:54:28 PM  
The Ninj': the songs didn't live up to the expectations of what you would expect from an album 14 years in the making.

And really, how could they? The most brilliant records ever made were turned out in less time.

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2009-07-01 11:55:19 PM  
tequilasundae: remember this??

man oh man did that album ever suck. the only somewhat good song was "hackett to bits", or whatever that instrumental was called.

glad i bought it on vinyl for only one dollar at Value Village...
yeeeeesh.

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2009-07-01 11:58:11 PM  
tequilasundae

whoa... "Vitalogy" ???
that's probably my very favourite pearl jam album!
sure, it had a few "experimental" or "filler" tracks, but it wouldn't've been the same album without them!

[then again, i suppose i COULD do without "stupid mop"....]

 
Third_Uncle_Eno 2009-07-02 12:01:33 AM  
what about "having fun with elvis on stage" ?

 
GrizzlyAdamsRox 2009-07-02 12:03:28 AM  
Third_Uncle_Eno: tequilasundae

whoa... "Vitalogy" ???
that's probably my very favourite pearl jam album!
sure, it had a few "experimental" or "filler" tracks, but it wouldn't've been the same album without them!

[then again, i suppose i COULD do without "stupid mop"....]


Yeah, as far as I'm concerned Immortality is the last song on that record.

 
seabass242 2009-07-02 12:05:23 AM  
Catcher in the Rye and Street of Dreams are really really good songs. Chinese Democracy as a whole is just a good album, and not great.

There is certainly nothing bad about it.

 
theorellior 2009-07-02 12:13:04 AM  
fritopendejo: Radiohead- Kid A should be nuked from orbit as well.

I wouldn't say it's a bad album, per se, it was just on permanent rotation in the various art-school studios I frequented about that time. As a result, I think Thom Yorke should be strung up by his dissonant moaning vocal chords, but that's just me.

 
dancdancedanceinunderpants 2009-07-02 12:26:22 AM  
www.bizarrerecords.com

 
brushwad 2009-07-02 12:56:13 AM  
Third_Uncle_Eno: what about "having fun with elvis on stage" ?

bellhops ... chambermaids ... FREAKS ... sayin' Im ... STRUNG OUT

/gold, Jerry!

 
Fano 2009-07-02 01:04:58 AM  
FeedTheCollapse: Standard Used Bin Fodder:

which is odd as that implies someone bothered to buy the album. Or maybe they stole it and then sold it back. Either way, sucks to be the guy caught stealing that album...


The Used Bin Fodder back in my day was mostly composed of stuff people got from Columbia House or the like. Let's see, 12 CDs for a penny? Well, from the list, here's 5 I like... and, uh, let me see, I dunno this sounds like it might be ok...

 
Tanasychuk 2009-07-02 01:59:45 AM  
Third_Uncle_Eno: tequilasundae

whoa... "Vitalogy" ???
that's probably my very favourite pearl jam album!
sure, it had a few "experimental" or "filler" tracks, but it wouldn't've been the same album without them!

[then again, i suppose i COULD do without "stupid mop"....]


Count me in for thinking Vitalogy is awesome...there are some real shiat songs, but still....a favoured classic, as far as I'm concerned.

 
Diogenes Teufelsdrockh 2009-07-02 02:06:06 AM  
Glitchwerks: oldweevil: Hmm... shiatty albums...shiatty album cover...

Save it for another "worst album covers" thread that just rips off Farker Bizarre Records once again.

That dude deserves royalties.


Yet, he hasn't added Funny van Dannen - Neues Von Gott. (new window) How can a site like his be without that album cover?

 
spammuncher 2009-07-02 02:52:16 AM  
Glitchwerks: Sorry, but "Metal Machine Music" is considered a classic among experimental music fans, and is pretty much a starting point for the extreme noise genre. Not saying I feel that way, but many noise heads do.

DarKrow: Gunny Highway: METAL MACHINE MUSIC?fark you, that album's a goddamn masterpiece. It created a genre!

/Not a troll. I'm serious.
//Transformer's better, though.


Gunny Highway: DarKrow: //Transformer's better, though.

Transformer is a masterpiece. I will throw MMM on the turn table now and give it another chance. I dont anticipate my opinion changing but I will keep an open mind.


Don't waste your time. As a piece of conceptual art - it's brilliant; let RCA put out your own personal fark You to RCA. As music, it's just a goof that helped Lou get out of his contract with RCA. I've had the album for nearly 35 years and have only listened to it once. I worked a record store when it came out and we had to warn potential customers that it wasn't a follow up to Rock n Roll Animal. I can't believe some people didn't get the joke.

 
PickinWhiskers 2009-07-02 02:59:37 AM  
HereComesTheScience: Replace Chinese Democracy with this.

I wouldn't say replace. More like ADD this to the list.
(Both suck hard)

 
FDR Jones 2009-07-02 03:03:29 AM  
i actually own that Leonard Nimoy album, signed by Nimoy himself. wonder if that's worth anything...

my personal addition to this list is:
image.allmusic.com

 
The Chewbacca Defense 2009-07-02 03:12:32 AM  
Japancakes: wpmulligan: Montag19: Not so bad. Redeems Sgt. Peppers.

Earth, Wind & Fire's Got to Get You Into My Life is the only cover of a Beatles song that is better than the original.

I'm genetically incapable of believing a cover song can be superior to an original (just as in my view a remake cannot surpass the original film). I will say however that (IMHO) Isaac Hayes' extended (lasting twelve glorious minutes) string-and-horn drenched "Something" comes the closest to surpassing the original recording. With E,W & F's "GTGYIML" being second runner up.


Then what would you say about Hendrix's cover of "All Along the Watchtower?"

As for movies, the remake of Ocean's Eleven was a hell of a lot better than the original in my opinion. It was a total popcorn flick but still much better.

/Just two examples that immediately popped up in my head

 
Fano 2009-07-02 03:32:12 AM  
The Chewbacca Defense: Japancakes: wpmulligan: Montag19: Not so bad. Redeems Sgt. Peppers.

Earth, Wind & Fire's Got to Get You Into My Life is the only cover of a Beatles song that is better than the original.

I'm genetically incapable of believing a cover song can be superior to an original (just as in my view a remake cannot surpass the original film). I will say however that (IMHO) Isaac Hayes' extended (lasting twelve glorious minutes) string-and-horn drenched "Something" comes the closest to surpassing the original recording. With E,W & F's "GTGYIML" being second runner up.

Then what would you say about Hendrix's cover of "All Along the Watchtower?"

As for movies, the remake of Ocean's Eleven was a hell of a lot better than the original in my opinion. It was a total popcorn flick but still much better.

/Just two examples that immediately popped up in my head


How about everyone that made a song out of Bob Dylan's work?

There is nothing wrong with covers.

/has heard cover bands that would embarrass the originals many a time

 
nocturn 2009-07-02 04:32:06 AM  
Fano: The Chewbacca Defense: Japancakes: wpmulligan: Montag19: Not so bad. Redeems Sgt. Peppers.

Earth, Wind & Fire's Got to Get You Into My Life is the only cover of a Beatles song that is better than the original.

I'm genetically incapable of believing a cover song can be superior to an original (just as in my view a remake cannot surpass the original film). I will say however that (IMHO) Isaac Hayes' extended (lasting twelve glorious minutes) string-and-horn drenched "Something" comes the closest to surpassing the original recording. With E,W & F's "GTGYIML" being second runner up.

Then what would you say about Hendrix's cover of "All Along the Watchtower?"

As for movies, the remake of Ocean's Eleven was a hell of a lot better than the original in my opinion. It was a total popcorn flick but still much better.

/Just two examples that immediately popped up in my head

How about everyone that made a song out of Bob Dylan's work?

There is nothing wrong with covers.

/has heard cover bands that would embarrass the originals many a time


Heck, if it weren't for covers, nobody would have liked Joy Division.

 
DalaiLamaDingDong 2009-07-02 05:26:22 AM  
Fano: How about everyone that made a song out of Bob Dylan's work?

THIS. I'm a HUGE Leonard Cohen fan, but some of his songs are just better by other people.

 
Fuggin Bizzy 2009-07-02 07:56:37 AM  
FDR Jones: my personal addition to this list is:

Why you hatin' on Odetta, fool?

 
Fuggin Bizzy 2009-07-02 07:57:25 AM  
DalaiLamaDingDong: Fano: How about everyone that made a song out of Bob Dylan's work?

THIS. I'm a HUGE Leonard Cohen fan, but some of his songs are just better by other people.


Townes van Zandt too.

 
GibbyTheMole 2009-07-02 08:23:07 AM  
tequilasundae:

I thought "Exit The Dragon" was a great album. "The Break" is a terrific song. Probably my favorite UO song. That album, and "Saturation" are my two fave Urge Overkill albums.

evildeathllama:

That Visions "Abnormality" youtube link... Yep. Godawful ear rape. You hit that one on the head, alright. Wow.

 
Dissociater 2009-07-02 09:07:03 AM  
If we're starting to count Youtube bands, I submit to you:

Chuggo - Come on farkin' guy (new window)

 
Glitchwerks 2009-07-02 09:17:44 AM  
spammuncher: Don't waste your time. As a piece of conceptual art - it's brilliant; let RCA put out your own personal fark You to RCA. As music, it's just a goof that helped Lou get out of his contract with RCA. I've had the album for nearly 35 years and have only listened to it once. I worked a record store when it came out and we had to warn potential customers that it wasn't a follow up to Rock n Roll Animal. I can't believe some people didn't get the joke.

It may have been a joke, but it's no secret that it inspired everyone from Controlled Bleeding to Merzbow. Even pranksters like Zoviet France owe a lot to Lou's sense of humor. From industrial to avant garde and experimental, it did a lot more than just piss off some rock fans and label execs.

 
Trainspotr 2009-07-02 09:44:57 AM  
nocturn:
Heck, if it weren't for covers, nobody would have liked Joy Division.


You should hear their version of "Louie Louie".

Also, I have no idea what your statement means.

 
kanesays 2009-07-02 09:56:24 AM  
SPna15: theorellior: Illidan: They're trying to match Kill Em All / Ride the Lightning but they don't have the same talent for artistic composition as before (and Hetfield can't pull off the effect).

What's the missing ingredient, do you think? It might start with a "C" and end with "liff Burton".


Nope. It actually starts with a "D" and ends with "ave Mustaine".


I don't believe you know of which you speak. Cliff was the creative force in that band. Metallica never took off until they moved to the Bay Area and left the LA scene behind, because Cliff wanted no part of it. Only then, after the entire band relocated to suit Cliff, so Cliff could leave Trauma, did Metallica find their sound.

As to Cliff, where did his inspiration come from? He was playing a riff for Kirk one day, and Kirk replied 'that was awesome, where'd you get that'?

'Thin Lizzy'.

'That's a Thin Lizzy riff'?

Cliff laughed.

'They're all Thin Lizzy riffs'.

//Saw 'em in 85 & 86.

 
Jim R 2009-07-02 10:06:00 AM  
Anything by Mariah Carey.

 
Orgasmatron138 2009-07-02 10:07:20 AM  
HereComesTheScience: Replace Chinese Democracy with this.

People biatched about selling out when the black album hit - I thought it rocked. However, when they hit their newer, modern era stuff I tuned out. If that's what they want to play, if that is what is in their hearts right now, more power to them. But I don't have to listen, like, or defend it.

 
Grandemadaca 2009-07-02 10:24:18 AM  
www.eggcityradio.com
/actually, I kind of like this one.
//I seem to be alone in this.

 
Japancakes [TotalFark] 2009-07-02 10:32:20 AM  
I would never say that others have to share my personal idiosyncrasy. Just because I don't feel covers ever top originals (although I recognize that many are equal in quality to them) doesn't mean that you have to (or do) feel that way.

Although this whole concept of people throwing things they don't personally like into black holes is just too eerily (and unnervingly) reminiscent of people throwing things they don't like into fires. And who throughout history has ever done that?

 
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