And you know he's nonjuiced how?

he's not on the juice anymore, subtardo.

You hope.

I would be shocked to discover that he is not on some sort of performance enhancing drug.

Not many low draft picks that have minimal hype suddenly turn into monster smashers out of nowhere.....Except maybe Mike Piazza, Sammy Sosa.....Errrrrr

bobgilbert: I would be shocked to discover that he is not on some sort of performance enhancing drug.

Not many low draft picks that have minimal hype suddenly turn into monster smashers out of nowhere.....Except maybe Mike Piazza, Sammy Sosa.....Errrrrr

i love this argument. his minor league performance was great, and every year of his major league performance is outstanding. they test all the time. the guy won't even drink a beer. it's highly unlikely he's done anything considering his consistency and the fact that he's not all that big.

take from those what you will

McGwire, Sosa and the other steroid kids have screwed up baseball forever. No player, no matter how talented, will ever be able to set a record without it being assumed he was using performance enhancing drugs.

WaltzingMathilda: i love this argument. his minor league performance was great, and every year of his major league performance is outstanding. they test all the time. the guy won't even drink a beer. it's highly unlikely he's done anything considering his consistency and the fact that he's not all that big.

Sounds a lot like what people used to say about Alex Rodriguez.

As for me, I'm just going to assume that basically anyone with half decent numbers is on the juice, Including Pujols.

How can people be this stupid?

ALBERT PUJOLS IS SO JUICED, BILLY MAYS COULD HAVE SOLD HIM ON TV AS A JUICER.

playblu: How can people be this stupid?

ALBERT PUJOLS IS SO JUICED, BILLY MAYS COULD HAVE SOLD HIM ON TV AS A JUICER.

You're such a dumbshiat. Billy Mays doesn't sell juicers, that's clearly Jack Lalanne territory. And one thing you don't want to do is fark with Jack Lalanne.

HulkHands: take from those what you will

He's still pretty huge in the rookie photo. He's always been thick, unlike Bonds or McGwire.

Anyway, read the article about him in SI entitled "Albert Pujols has a message: You can believe in me." It's pretty convincing.

Pitchers are juiced, hitters are juiced, cripes, the fu*king Umps are probably juiced.

*yawn*

Good on Pujols, he's fun to watch and a great player regardless.

A good point was made this morning: Pujols has played most of his career under the new drug testing policies, and he hasn't shown signs of slowing down. The only aberration in his stats is this season, where he is on pace to hit 60+ home runs, when he his previous high was 49 in 2006.

I'm not saying he hasn't used/isn't using, but certainly looks like he's relatively clean.

CruiserTwelve: McGwire, Sosa and the other steroid kids have screwed up baseball forever. No player, no matter how talented, will ever be able to set a record without it being assumed he was using performance enhancing drugs.

True. It's sort of how when you see a woman with great tits walking down the street, you now assume that she probably has implants. It's sad, and it really sucks for those who have natural attributes.

Having said that, I happened to watch that game last night (and as a Giants fan, I cringed every time Pujols stepped up to the plate), and Pujols is an amazing player, both offensively and defensively. I don't know if he's on the juice, but like Barry Bonds, he would have some pretty amazing skills with or without the juice. Like Bonds, he has a very quick bat, amazing hand/eye coordination, and a sweet swing, and you don't get that from the 'roids. The 'roids will certainly inflate the power (as they did with Bonds), but to put up the kind of numbers he (and Bonds) has put up there has to be a tremendous amount of raw talent to work with in the first place.

Who knows how many homers Pujols will wind up with this season, though. When I was a little kid, Reggie Jackson, playing for the A's (yes, I'm old), put up numbers like Pujols' in the first half, and then tailed off and hit something like only 10 or 15 HRs after the All-Star break and never got close to the Maris number. Could happen here. Or more likely, pitchers may starting walking Pujols (either intentionally or semi-intentionally) damn near every time he steps into the box in a non-blowout game--as they did with Bonds his last few years--and he won't see a whole lot of pitches to hit.

Pujols may be clean now, but he was taking something a few years ago.

Now:




Then:

bmr68: Pujols may be clean now, but he was taking something a few years ago.
Now:
Then:

Well, I'm sure he's flexing/posing in the first pic (for a muscle mag) and not in the second, so who knows how much of a difference there really is.

But if he's not on the juice now, who cares if he was in the past. It's now that he's putting up even bigger numbers than he was in previous seasons.

Juiced or not, the guy's farking amazing. I'd sure love to have him on my team.

bmr68: Pujols may be clean now, but he was taking something a few years ago.

Now:

Then:

dude, for Muscle & Fitness cover photos I guar-an-tee he works out a bit right before the shoot, gets oiled up, and then flexes as they take the picture.

Although, it seems the opposite strategy was used for the SI shot.

Cyberluddite: I'd sure love to have him on my team.

Dude, he's married...to a woman.

aquigley: dude, for Muscle & Fitness cover photos I guar-an-tee he works out a bit right before the shoot, gets oiled up, and then flexes as they take the picture.

Agreed. Anybody that works out knows this.

for the SI shot.. he probably got up out of bed, and took the pics.

Hasn't anyone seen the ESPN commercial? He'd not on drugs, he's a farking machine!

Probably a T1 under that phony flesh.

Oh, I wanted to add.. if you want to see a HUGE baseball player..
say hello to Gabe Kapler..for you girls and homotrons (NTTAWWT) that might be in this thread.

Link

I don't believe for a second that he's clean.

They still lost...

haemaker: They still lost...



That is all.

Maybe he just has hyperactive testicles.

As much as I like "The Machine"; he is juiced and I don't care.

Albert Pujols is the new A-Rod? The guy who hasn't been outed yet that people defend by using some sort of line of reasoning that eventually dies when it comes out he did test positive at some point?

I'm pretty sure muscle & fitness magazine has a graphic designer or two who knows how to make muscles seem more defined.

If you believe a magazine cover is an accurate depiction of a person in this day and age you're pretty stupid.

Dr.Knockboots: Oh, I wanted to add.. if you want to see a HUGE baseball player..
say hello to Gabe Kapler..for you girls and homotrons (NTTAWWT) that might be in this thread.

I actually met him when he played in Boston. Super nice guy, pretty funny too.

But mother of God is he jacked. I think he's slimmed down a little (for some reason he looks a little smaller now on the Rays), but it wouldn't surprise if that's on purpose since he's a little older now and wanted to make up for a loss of quickness.

Until he produces negative tests from the last 5 years, you pretty much have to assume he's on the juice.

I guess you're innocent until proven guilty unless you're good at baseball.

Thesaurus Rex: I guess you're innocent until proven guilty unless you're good at baseball.

that's how farkers like to do it.

I have always assumed he has been juiced.

Thesaurus Rex: I guess you're innocent until proven guilty unless you're good at baseball.

There are a 104 proven cheaters out there in hiding. Odds are good he's one of them.

Of course he's juiced. Bonds never failed a test either.

Thesaurus Rex: I guess you're innocent until proven guilty unless you're good at baseball.

When every other good power hitter from the last 15 years has been discovered to be a juicer, it becomes guilt by association.


If Pujols is clean, he should sue the shiat out of the juicers and the MLBPA.

People who worry more about steroids in baseball than watching any games or appreciating feats other than home runs are worse for the game than the clowns actually shooting up.

Discuss.

He's not juiced, morans. Also, anyone who posts a picture of a guy at 21 alongside a bulked up pic of the guy in his 30s is tarded and most likely 16 years old

It Smee: Of course he's juiced. Bonds never failed a test either.

What flawless logic.

Lost Thought 00: Thesaurus Rex: I guess you're innocent until proven guilty unless you're good at baseball.

There are a 104 proven cheaters out there in hiding. Odds are good he's one of them.

Too big of a name. Someone would have outed him like A-Rod. I'll bet most of that list is journeymen and bench players.

But he did sort of come out of nowhere.

The worst HR/AB rate of his entire professional career was his one season in the minors.

Q: how many times was Roger Maris intentionally walked in 1961?
/i know!

OH MY GOD!!! I just saw a picture of Pujols when he was 12 and he is easily TWICE as big now. How do you explain that, apologists!!!11

He had to be juiced. No one hit Brad Lidge that year.

/remembers it like the jfk assassination

The guy is a juice machine!

mjoven1975: haemaker: They still lost...

*enpty trophy case*

That is all.

Can we dispense with the facts and get back to sarcasm, please? The truth is too painful.

Juice or no juice this guy is a omnster right now. He has so many multiple hr games its crazy. He seems to really like getting them in pairs. I hope hes not juicing, but once again I wouldnt be suprised. would anyone be anymore? The league leaders in all stats should be tested weekly. This way we cna be sure they are clean. I know it would never happen, but something drastic needs to happen to fix this sport. Weve become so cynical about it now its kind of ridiculous.

Lost Thought 00: There are a 104 proven cheaters out there in hiding. Odds are good he's one of them.

There are 30 teams, each with 25 men on the roster. That's 750 players in the majors. 104/750 is 13.9%. Seems like the odds are better that he's not one of them.

Since you're just basing it on numbers, of course.

srhp29: Albert Pujols is the new A-Rod? The guy who hasn't been outed yet that people defend by using some sort of line of reasoning that eventually dies when it comes out he did test positive at some point?

Another day, another whining comment from the cry baby whiner.

My favorite player would never cheat!!!!

All you know about him is what MLB and his publicists sell you. You know nothing.

Bottom line: they get paid for performance, the difference between 20 HRs and 35 is worth about $10 milliion a year...money talks

elvisbloom: Another day, another whining comment from the cry baby whiner.

i've been told that this is a common trait among juicers. i'm not saying, i'm just saying.