Damn him.. he was on fire before his injury..my FBB team was great.

There is no way the Cubs deserve to be merely 4.5 games out of first after this abortion of a month.

Unfortunately he'll miss the Brewers series, but at least he's bacj for the next Cardinals set.

only halfway through...only halfway through...only halfway through....

aquigley: There is no way the Cubs deserve to be merely 4.5 games out of first after this abortion of a month.

Unfortunately he'll miss the Brewers series, but at least he's bacj for the next Cardinals set.

only halfway through...only halfway through...only halfway through....

No need to jump off the ledge just yet. They are extremely lucky they are in a bad division. They are 2 games below .500 and still in the hunt.

Athos, Porthos and d'Artagnan ecstatic.

The schedule doesn't list Tuesday and Wednesday as off-days...

Hooo-farking-ray. His offensive contribution will definitely fuel a complete Cubs turnaround, assuming he can also pitch 3 innings of relief every night, teach all of his teammates how to hit lefties, babysit Big Z, pull Soto's head out of his ass and cure Milton Bradley with some intensive shock therapy.

That's not too much to ask of the guy, right?

aquigley: There is no way the Cubs deserve to be merely 4.5 games out of first after this abortion of a month.

Membership in the worst division in baseball does have its privileges.

GQueue: aquigley: There is no way the Cubs deserve to be merely 4.5 games out of first after this abortion of a month.

Membership in the worst division in baseball does have its privileges.

When did the Cubs move into the AL Central?

It will be nice to not see a line up with 3 2b in it though.

GQueue: aquigley: There is no way the Cubs deserve to be merely 4.5 games out of first after this abortion of a month.

Membership in the worst division in baseball does have its privileges.

I'd say the AL/NL Central and NL West are tied for worst division in baseball.

/White Sox 1 game over .500 and 4 games back of Detroit.
//Still not counting on a 2009 central title.
///Neither should the Cubs.

injured by Thursday

I don't get it. He's averaged 145 games per year since he started playing full-time in '01.

Dammit-Hi: His offensive contribution will definitely fuel a complete Cubs turnaround, assuming he can also pitch 3 innings of relief every night, teach all of his teammates how to hit lefties, babysit Big Z, pull Soto's head out of his ass and cure Milton Bradley with some intensive shock therapy.

This.

bacongood: When did the Cubs move into the AL Central?

Sorry bub, the NL Central took the title of worst division by putting up a losing record against the AL Central in the battle of crap divisions in interleague. The only team the NL Central seemed to be able to beat with any regularity was the putrid Indians, they of the one-man pitching staff. Even the crap-ass Royals managed to go 7-8 against the NL Central.

The NL East however has the 4th place Atlanta Braves 4 under .500 and 4 games out of 1st. That is the worst division in baseball.

\Not that I want to stick up for the NL Central

GQueue: bacongood: When did the Cubs move into the AL Central?

Sorry bub, the NL Central took the title of worst division by putting up a losing record against the AL Central in the battle of crap divisions in interleague. The only team the NL Central seemed to be able to beat with any regularity was the putrid Indians, they of the one-man pitching staff. Even the crap-ass Royals managed to go 7-8 against the NL Central.

By that logic, the NL Central's record against the NL East makes the East the worst. Especially when the East has a losing record against the West.

Interdivision records are meaningless.

Aramis Ramirez? Never heard of him.

Is he related to Alexei Ramirez?

Go Sox!

bacongood: By that logic, the NL Central's record against the NL East makes the East the worst. Especially when the East has a losing record against the West.

Interdivision records are meaningless.

The East has been pretty effing bad. Loads and loads of injured guys on the top teams, plus the presence of the by-far worst team in the game. At the moment with all those guys out they probably are worse than the NL Central.

I think this year there's only one actually good division and it's really really good (the AL East). The rest are thoroughly 'meh'.

Cakeboy: Aramis Ramirez? Never heard of him.

Is he related to Alexei Ramirez?

Go Sox!

Aramis is the one who hit that deep line drive into the stands at US Cellular field last year... From Wrigley!

Go Cubs!

But how will he injured?

What happens to Jake Fox once Ramirez returns? Oh, and Caketroll...ERRR...Cakeboy - get over yourself and your Sox fandom, and find a Sox thread to comment in.

Robert1966

But how will he injured?

DeRosa will be involved. I'm sure of it.

/go Cards

I'm going to see him play in the Peoria minor league game on Saturday, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

The English Major: DeRosa will be involved. I'm sure of it.

/go Cards

LOL IRONY

bacongood: GQueue: aquigley: There is no way the Cubs deserve to be merely 4.5 games out of first after this abortion of a month.

Membership in the worst division in baseball does have its privileges.

When did the Cubs move into the AL Central?

It will be nice to not see a line up with 3 2b Aaron Miles in it though.


The English Major: Robert1966

But how will he injured?

DeRosa will be involved. I'm sure of it.

/go Cards

hurt

aquigley

The English Major: DeRosa will be involved. I'm sure of it.

/go Cards

LOL IRONY

Thanks. I couldn't think of anything else to say in this thread, except that given all the animosity my Cub fan family and friends have been shelling, it was a good idea. And DeRosa's former teammates were pretty pissy about the trade too, so this "great showdown" won't happen. Unless he comes out to attack Ramirez with a bat.

For what it's worth, I was supposed to go the game on the 11th, but I can't go now because I have to be a good son/brother. If I couldn't get free tickets when I wanted, I'd be more pissed than I already am. Of course, the only time I want free tickets to a Cubs game is when they're playing the Cards.

bacongood: GQueue: bacongood: When did the Cubs move into the AL Central?

Sorry bub, the NL Central took the title of worst division by putting up a losing record against the AL Central in the battle of crap divisions in interleague. The only team the NL Central seemed to be able to beat with any regularity was the putrid Indians, they of the one-man pitching staff. Even the crap-ass Royals managed to go 7-8 against the NL Central.

By that logic, the NL Central's record against the NL East makes the East the worst. Especially when the East has a losing record against the West.

Interdivision records are meaningless.

Except Interdivision isn't a word unless you mean INTRAdivision then yes INTRAdivision play is relevant especially if you gain ground on the first place team, or the team ahead of you to gain more ground.

Inner-league is relevant because you wont meet the wild card team if they're from the same division until the NL/ALCS. So play against the East/West/Central winners is relevant.

What's not relevant is interleauge play. Sure it's cool to see some other teams, but it's gotten boring seeing the Cubs every year to have the OMG CROSS TOWN CLASSIC RAAAAAAWWWWWR IT'S IMPORTANT WHO WILL DOMINATE THE CITY RAAAAAWWWWWR! The 6 games aren't relevant. I'd rather see more Intradivision play for the 20 or 21 games that are played.

thefireandpassion: Except Interdivision isn't a word unless you mean INTRAdivision then yes INTRAdivision play is relevant especially if you gain ground on the first place team, or the team ahead of you to gain more ground.

Inner-league is relevant because you wont meet the wild card team if they're from the same division until the NL/ALCS. So play against the East/West/Central winners is relevant.

What's not relevant is interleauge play. Sure it's cool to see some other teams, but it's gotten boring seeing the Cubs every year to have the OMG CROSS TOWN CLASSIC RAAAAAAWWWWWR IT'S IMPORTANT WHO WILL DOMINATE THE CITY RAAAAAWWWWWR! The 6 games aren't relevant. I'd rather see more Intradivision play for the 20 or 21 games that are played.

...what? How is interdivision not a word, but "inner-league" is? What in the world are you talking about?

Al!: Cakeboy: Aramis Ramirez? Never heard of him.

Is he related to Alexei Ramirez?

Go Sox!

Aramis is the one who hit that deep line drive into the stands at US Cellular field last year... From Wrigley!

Go Cubs!

I don't think either side can talk shiat about the other team's ARam. Alexei killed us this year (3 go ahead homers, iirc) and Aramis came through last year against the Sox.

DeWayne Mann: thefireandpassion: Except Interdivision isn't a word unless you mean INTRAdivision then yes INTRAdivision play is relevant especially if you gain ground on the first place team, or the team ahead of you to gain more ground.

Inner-league is relevant because you wont meet the wild card team if they're from the same division until the NL/ALCS. So play against the East/West/Central winners is relevant.

What's not relevant is interleauge play. Sure it's cool to see some other teams, but it's gotten boring seeing the Cubs every year to have the OMG CROSS TOWN CLASSIC RAAAAAAWWWWWR IT'S IMPORTANT WHO WILL DOMINATE THE CITY RAAAAAWWWWWR! The 6 games aren't relevant. I'd rather see more Intradivision play for the 20 or 21 games that are played.

...what? How is interdivision not a word, but "inner-league" is? What in the world are you talking about?

WTF is "inner-league"? It's "Inter-league". You would just call a NL west/NL east game a "league" game. Not "interdivision". Intradivision is a word but Firefox spell check doesn't seem to think so.

GQueue: aquigley: There is no way the Cubs deserve to be merely 4.5 games out of first after this abortion of a month.

Membership in the worst division in baseball does have its privileges.

In professional sports, I'll take it every time. You still end up playing a bunch of good teams before the season is over. I'd rather have an easy division and get to the playoffs and see what happens there.

In the two big college sports, it's completely different since there are so many schools and conferences that you have to beat some good teams to get to the top or win every game (or almost every game) if you're in a lower conference. I get so sick of all the SEC football fans and their constant circlejerk about how great their conference is. Guess what? If your team is at the bottom of a great conference, no one gives a carp. Wouldn't you rather have them be at the top of an average conference?

thefireandpassion: bacongood: GQueue: bacongood: When did the Cubs move into the AL Central?

Sorry bub, the NL Central took the title of worst division by putting up a losing record against the AL Central in the battle of crap divisions in interleague. The only team the NL Central seemed to be able to beat with any regularity was the putrid Indians, they of the one-man pitching staff. Even the crap-ass Royals managed to go 7-8 against the NL Central.

By that logic, the NL Central's record against the NL East makes the East the worst. Especially when the East has a losing record against the West.

Interdivision records are meaningless.

Except Interdivision isn't a word unless you mean INTRAdivision then yes INTRAdivision play is relevant especially if you gain ground on the first place team, or the team ahead of you to gain more ground.

Inner-league is relevant because you wont meet the wild card team if they're from the same division until the NL/ALCS. So play against the East/West/Central winners is relevant.

What's not relevant is interleauge play. Sure it's cool to see some other teams, but it's gotten boring seeing the Cubs every year to have the OMG CROSS TOWN CLASSIC RAAAAAAWWWWWR IT'S IMPORTANT WHO WILL DOMINATE THE CITY RAAAAAWWWWWR! The 6 games aren't relevant. I'd rather see more Intradivision play for the 20 or 21 games that are played.

At no point did you come even close to the discussion that was being held.

Dammit-Hi: Hooo-farking-ray. His offensive contribution will definitely fuel a complete Cubs turnaround, assuming he can also pitch 3 innings of relief every night, teach all of his teammates how to hit lefties, babysit Big Z, pull weight off of Soto's head out of his ass and cure Milton Bradley with some intensive shock therapy.

That's not too much to ask of the guy, right?

I agree with the Bradley comment - I never liked his signing. The bullpen is what it is - Marmol has bad mechanics, so he better be hot in the postseason if they make it. Jeff Sjdmardizjdgza should help.

All around, the hitters will bat to their career averages, more or less - Lee has already started heating up, I'm sure Soriano will have his streak of greatness that always inflates his season stats. What they need:

1. Bullpen - has to perform.
2. If Bradley is still a bust, Fukudome MUST play well.
3. Ramirez has to be a threat and stay healthy. When he's hitting well, Lee sees nothing but fastballs.
4. Soto has to stop being fat.