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NHL Free Agent Frenzy discussion thread. The Sedins are staying put, but what hockey city will Heatley crash into? (tsn.ca) |  |
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| Whamdangler | 2009-07-01 11:43:23 AM |
I don't know, but the Avs are finally aware that they need a world-class goalie, and there are several free agents out there.
The Shoveller
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2009-07-01 11:50:36 AM |
Whamdangler: I don't know, but the Avs are finally aware that they need a world-class goalie, and there are several free agents out there.
World class? After the last few years I think they'd be happy just to find a peewee goalie who's willing to get hit by the puck every now and then.
World class? After the last few years I think they'd be happy just to find a peewee goalie who's willing to get hit by the puck every now and then.
| The Shoveller
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2009-07-01 11:52:06 AM |
For what it's worth, the Sedin headlines below this were much more deserving of a greenlight. Alas, the world is sometimes unfair.
| PowerSlacker | 2009-07-01 11:53:03 AM |
Heatley and Toronto belong together.
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 11:54:31 AM |
Whamdangler: I don't know, but the Avs are finally aware that they need a world-class goalie, and there are several free agents out there.
The Wild are shoppin' Harding around hard. Today is a big day for the Wild with a new GM, new HC, Gabby gone, and cap room to get busy.
The Wild are shoppin' Harding around hard. Today is a big day for the Wild with a new GM, new HC, Gabby gone, and cap room to get busy.
| jordawesome | 2009-07-01 11:55:18 AM |
I see what you did there, subby.
| Stompn_Tom
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2009-07-01 11:55:23 AM |
Whamdangler: I don't know, but the Avs are finally aware that they need a world-class goalie, and there are several free agents out there.
Habby to the AVs?
Habby to the AVs?
| syndre | 2009-07-01 11:56:28 AM |
| jordawesome | 2009-07-01 11:59:08 AM |
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 12:02:29 PM |
a4dzac: The Wild are shoppin' Harding around hard. Today is a big day for the Wild with a new GM, new HC, Gabby gone, and cap room to get busy.
I'm hoping the Blues make a run for Harding.
I'm hoping the Blues make a run for Harding.
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 12:03:51 PM |
Whamdangler: I don't know, but the Avs are finally aware that they need a world-class goalie, and there are several free agents out there.
They resigned Budaj. Link (new window)
They resigned Budaj. Link (new window)
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 12:05:24 PM |
So does Conklin end up with Philly today? Or Boston?
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 12:05:45 PM |
HaveBlue: I'm hoping the Blues make a run for Harding.
Sans the Rascal Flatts mask (at one point), he does have too solid of numbers to be a backup. Here, I'm hoping for a Koivu brothers season...although that might just be an IR replacement for Gaborik.
Sans the Rascal Flatts mask (at one point), he does have too solid of numbers to be a backup. Here, I'm hoping for a Koivu brothers season...although that might just be an IR replacement for Gaborik.
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 12:08:08 PM |
/shamelessly stolen
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 12:08:29 PM |
Outside of Heatley possibly being dealt, I don't expect anything big from the Sens this year... especially not today - July 1 is where the GMs make the most mistakes chasing UFAs.
(See Gomez, Drury, Briere, Redden, etc - all these guys who are available were all big money July 1 signings in previous years)
(See Gomez, Drury, Briere, Redden, etc - all these guys who are available were all big money July 1 signings in previous years)
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 12:10:33 PM |
a4dzac: Sans the Rascal Flatts mask (at one point), he does have too solid of numbers to be a backup.
Yeah. Ideally, I would imagine he and Mason being 1a/1b guys next season, then Harding taking over next year. Realistically, I don't think either goalie would be happy with that. But of the goalies available, he's my pick.
Yeah. Ideally, I would imagine he and Mason being 1a/1b guys next season, then Harding taking over next year. Realistically, I don't think either goalie would be happy with that. But of the goalies available, he's my pick.
| sn0 | 2009-07-01 12:11:45 PM |
The Devils should make a move or two if they know what's good for them. I was suprised they let Madden test the market.
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 12:13:01 PM |
Sounds like Havlat and Fedotenko are in the Wild's crosshairs...
| FreakinB | 2009-07-01 12:13:57 PM |
Can I interest anyone in playing alongside some talented, up-and-coming young players in a borderline-decrepit arena on that fabulous bastion of suburbia known as Long Island?
Please?
Pretty please?
Please?
Pretty please?
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 12:17:46 PM |
Ohlund->Tampa sounds close.
| supamaki
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2009-07-01 12:20:23 PM |
| Enrico Pallazzo | 2009-07-01 12:22:23 PM |
Free agent tracker, just in case anyone wants it
| ahwahoo2006
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2009-07-01 12:23:33 PM |
Ohlund to TB confirmed.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 12:33:53 PM |
Ohlund, 7 years at 3.5M per...
Wonder if he got an NTC or NMC thrown in there... not that its really worth anything when it comes to Tampa
Wonder if he got an NTC or NMC thrown in there... not that its really worth anything when it comes to Tampa
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 12:39:05 PM |
I think it will be interesting to see what Hossa does. I don't know of many teams that will be contenders in the next couple years who will offer him what he wants.
I think his best be it to try to pick the best team that is on the right track to be a contender like 5 years down the road.
If he is willing to take a discount to be on a contender, he should call Ken Holland back and ask "Any chance we can talk about that offer again?"
I think his best be it to try to pick the best team that is on the right track to be a contender like 5 years down the road.
If he is willing to take a discount to be on a contender, he should call Ken Holland back and ask "Any chance we can talk about that offer again?"
| ahwahoo2006
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2009-07-01 12:41:42 PM |
Rumor: Scuderi to the Wild
| DeanMoriarty | 2009-07-01 12:43:50 PM |
This is like watching soccer.
| ahwahoo2006
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2009-07-01 12:44:10 PM |
TSN Reporting Hossa to Chicago
| Boris S. Wort
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2009-07-01 12:44:47 PM |
Okay, fill me in... what's the difference between a No Trade Contract and a No Movement Contract? Or is there one?
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 12:45:40 PM |
TSN: Hossa close to signing in Chi...
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 12:46:54 PM |
a4dzac: TSN: Hossa close to signing in Chi...
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
| ahwahoo2006
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2009-07-01 12:47:06 PM |
Boris S. Wort: Okay, fill me in... what's the difference between a No Trade Contract and a No Movement Contract? Or is there one?
NTC: cant be traded to another team
NMC: cant be traded OR sent to the minors or reassigned.
NTC: cant be traded to another team
NMC: cant be traded OR sent to the minors or reassigned.
| Quadraton
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2009-07-01 12:47:31 PM |
Boris S. Wort: Okay, fill me in... what's the difference between a No Trade Contract and a No Movement Contract? Or is there one?
To Trade means you can't trade the player to another team without his permission. No Movement means you can't send the player down to the minors in an attempt to waive him and get his salary off the books.
To Trade means you can't trade the player to another team without his permission. No Movement means you can't send the player down to the minors in an attempt to waive him and get his salary off the books.
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 12:47:39 PM |
nikknaack1: a4dzac: TSN: Hossa close to signing in Chi...
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
What is he asking?
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
What is he asking?
| Flogster | 2009-07-01 12:47:47 PM |
As a Flames fan I was hoping the Sedins were leaving Vancouver, and Gillis almost snatched defeat from the claws of victory but actually pulled it off in the end.
Congrats Vancouver . . . 2009 / 2010 should have some fantastic Flames - Canucks games.
Congrats Vancouver . . . 2009 / 2010 should have some fantastic Flames - Canucks games.
| ahwahoo2006
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2009-07-01 12:49:27 PM |
TSN: Florida re-signs Radek Dvorak. 2 years, $3.4 mill total
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 12:51:06 PM |
HaveBlue: nikknaack1: a4dzac: TSN: Hossa close to signing in Chi...
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
What is he asking?
From what I've heard like 7 to 7.5 a season, might settle around 6. Wings were offering 4 because it's all they could offer.
Granted these are all just through the grape vine, so who knows the veracity of the numbers.
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
What is he asking?
From what I've heard like 7 to 7.5 a season, might settle around 6. Wings were offering 4 because it's all they could offer.
Granted these are all just through the grape vine, so who knows the veracity of the numbers.
| UhrturmGraz | 2009-07-01 12:51:39 PM |
nikknaack1: a4dzac: TSN: Hossa close to signing in Chi...
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
And a double whammy to the Wings.
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
And a double whammy to the Wings.
| Doc Daneeka | 2009-07-01 12:51:59 PM |
Sabres aren't going to do shiat, yet again. Sigh.
No, I take that back. They're going to let Jaro Spacek (the best defenseman on the team last season) walk away as a UFA for nothing in return.
Damn you Darcy. I hate you.
No, I take that back. They're going to let Jaro Spacek (the best defenseman on the team last season) walk away as a UFA for nothing in return.
Damn you Darcy. I hate you.
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 12:52:28 PM |
Where is the Cammalleri talk...I think he'd be a good fit here as well.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 12:52:32 PM |
Goddamn Gillis, good work!
Too bad Ohlund went for peanuts to Tampa bay. 3.2M a year? Really long contract for a guy starting to wear down, though.
Alright, we need a first line winger, third-line winger and a good D. Make it happen
Too bad Ohlund went for peanuts to Tampa bay. 3.2M a year? Really long contract for a guy starting to wear down, though.
Alright, we need a first line winger, third-line winger and a good D. Make it happen
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 12:52:38 PM |
Kovalev re-signs with the Habs. 2 years. 8.8.
| Whamdangler | 2009-07-01 12:54:20 PM |
whereisian: They resigned Budaj. Link (new window)
Yes, I read about it, but in the article I read, they mentioned they were also going after a better, free-agent goalie. Budaj was a pathetic 20-29 or something last year. The "backup" wasn't any better.
Yes, I read about it, but in the article I read, they mentioned they were also going after a better, free-agent goalie. Budaj was a pathetic 20-29 or something last year. The "backup" wasn't any better.
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 12:54:27 PM |
UhrturmGraz: nikknaack1: a4dzac: TSN: Hossa close to signing in Chi...
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
And a double whammy to the Wings.
Well I wouldn't call it a double whammy, as they will be fine without him and will be able to bring up some developing players because of it. However, it certainly is not their first choice and will make Chicago a whole lot better to give Detroit some significant division competition.
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
And a double whammy to the Wings.
Well I wouldn't call it a double whammy, as they will be fine without him and will be able to bring up some developing players because of it. However, it certainly is not their first choice and will make Chicago a whole lot better to give Detroit some significant division competition.
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 12:54:36 PM |
jekostas: Goddamn Gillis, good work!
Too bad Ohlund went for peanuts to Tampa bay. 3.2M a year? Really long contract for a guy starting to wear down, though.
The length of the contract is just to get his cap hit down. He won't be playing there for 7 years. Excellent mentor for Hedman. Good signing.
Too bad Ohlund went for peanuts to Tampa bay. 3.2M a year? Really long contract for a guy starting to wear down, though.
The length of the contract is just to get his cap hit down. He won't be playing there for 7 years. Excellent mentor for Hedman. Good signing.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 12:54:47 PM |
nikknaack1: HaveBlue: nikknaack1: a4dzac: TSN: Hossa close to signing in Chi...
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
What is he asking?
From what I've heard like 7 to 7.5 a season, might settle around 6. Wings were offering 4 because it's all they could offer.
Granted these are all just through the grape vine, so who knows the veracity of the numbers.
It better be a real short contract, then. Havlat was asking for less on a long term deal but Chicago couldn't bit because of Kane and Toews coming out of entry-level contracts after next year.
Damn, thats a good move for Hossa if he gets what he is asking...
What is he asking?
From what I've heard like 7 to 7.5 a season, might settle around 6. Wings were offering 4 because it's all they could offer.
Granted these are all just through the grape vine, so who knows the veracity of the numbers.
It better be a real short contract, then. Havlat was asking for less on a long term deal but Chicago couldn't bit because of Kane and Toews coming out of entry-level contracts after next year.
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 12:56:38 PM |
jekostas: It better be a real short contract, then. Havlat was asking for less on a long term deal but Chicago couldn't bit because of Kane and Toews coming out of entry-level contracts after next year.
Yeah...
Strib's Russo: "TSN's Darren Dreger is reporting Marian Hossa is close to signing in Chicago. If true, Hawks may need to hire some mathematicians from MIT to get Kane and Toews done next summer. Unless he's signing another one-year deal."
Yeah...
Strib's Russo: "TSN's Darren Dreger is reporting Marian Hossa is close to signing in Chicago. If true, Hawks may need to hire some mathematicians from MIT to get Kane and Toews done next summer. Unless he's signing another one-year deal."
| rynthetyn | 2009-07-01 12:59:30 PM |
jekostas: Too bad Ohlund went for peanuts to Tampa bay. 3.2M a year? Really long contract for a guy starting to wear down, though.
The Lightning have a really bad habit of signing guys to contracts that are way too long. With the Lightning ownership though, unless there's a no movement clause, the length is pretty much meaningless.
The Lightning have a really bad habit of signing guys to contracts that are way too long. With the Lightning ownership though, unless there's a no movement clause, the length is pretty much meaningless.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 01:04:10 PM |
a4dzac: jekostas: It better be a real short contract, then. Havlat was asking for less on a long term deal but Chicago couldn't bit because of Kane and Toews coming out of entry-level contracts after next year.
Yeah...
Strib's Russo: "TSN's Darren Dreger is reporting Marian Hossa is close to signing in Chicago. If true, Hawks may need to hire some mathematicians from MIT to get Kane and Toews done next summer. Unless he's signing another one-year deal."
Kind of creates an interesting dynamic, no? Chicago going after Hossa, Philadelphia getting Pronger, Bruins going after Kaberle... all these teams with good young players trying to gear up for a Cup run "right now" while they can still keep all those good young players and not lose them as RFAs.
Yeah...
Strib's Russo: "TSN's Darren Dreger is reporting Marian Hossa is close to signing in Chicago. If true, Hawks may need to hire some mathematicians from MIT to get Kane and Toews done next summer. Unless he's signing another one-year deal."
Kind of creates an interesting dynamic, no? Chicago going after Hossa, Philadelphia getting Pronger, Bruins going after Kaberle... all these teams with good young players trying to gear up for a Cup run "right now" while they can still keep all those good young players and not lose them as RFAs.
| palexc | 2009-07-01 01:04:45 PM |
I said it last night in the Kessel thread:
If Slats gives up any combination of Girardi, Callahan or Dubinsky to get Heatley, I'll swim across the river and kick his balls to the roof of his smart mouth.
If Slats gives up any combination of Girardi, Callahan or Dubinsky to get Heatley, I'll swim across the river and kick his balls to the roof of his smart mouth.
| Gordie_Howe_Hat_Trick | 2009-07-01 01:07:33 PM |
Caeldan: Outside of Heatley possibly being dealt, I don't expect anything big from the Sens this year... especially not today - July 1 is where the GMs make the most mistakes chasing UFAs.
(See Gomez, Drury, Briere, Redden, etc - all these guys who are available were all big money July 1 signings in previous years)
The fact that three of those mistakes were all made by the same incompetent GM isn't a coincidence. As long as your GM is Sather-stupid when it comes to FA signings, July 1 isn't a scary day.
Look at Boston: signing Chara & Savard on July 1 was a huge step towards relevancy for the team. And I don't think either guy is overpaid by much (Chara's a little pricy but he damn near earns it - and Savard is under one of the best contracts in the league, IMHO.)
(See Gomez, Drury, Briere, Redden, etc - all these guys who are available were all big money July 1 signings in previous years)
The fact that three of those mistakes were all made by the same incompetent GM isn't a coincidence. As long as your GM is Sather-stupid when it comes to FA signings, July 1 isn't a scary day.
Look at Boston: signing Chara & Savard on July 1 was a huge step towards relevancy for the team. And I don't think either guy is overpaid by much (Chara's a little pricy but he damn near earns it - and Savard is under one of the best contracts in the league, IMHO.)
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:10:17 PM |
jekostas: a4dzac: jekostas: It better be a real short contract, then. Havlat was asking for less on a long term deal but Chicago couldn't bit because of Kane and Toews coming out of entry-level contracts after next year.
Yeah...
Strib's Russo: "TSN's Darren Dreger is reporting Marian Hossa is close to signing in Chicago. If true, Hawks may need to hire some mathematicians from MIT to get Kane and Toews done next summer. Unless he's signing another one-year deal."
Kind of creates an interesting dynamic, no? Chicago going after Hossa, Philadelphia getting Pronger, Bruins going after Kaberle... all these teams with good young players trying to gear up for a Cup run "right now" while they can still keep all those good young players and not lose them as RFAs.
If Chicago grabs Hossa on a one year deal like the Wings did, I think it's a brilliant move. It puts them in a real good position to make another run, then gives them a chance to evaluate exactly what they want to do next year with a lot of options and a lot of flexability.
Yeah...
Strib's Russo: "TSN's Darren Dreger is reporting Marian Hossa is close to signing in Chicago. If true, Hawks may need to hire some mathematicians from MIT to get Kane and Toews done next summer. Unless he's signing another one-year deal."
Kind of creates an interesting dynamic, no? Chicago going after Hossa, Philadelphia getting Pronger, Bruins going after Kaberle... all these teams with good young players trying to gear up for a Cup run "right now" while they can still keep all those good young players and not lose them as RFAs.
If Chicago grabs Hossa on a one year deal like the Wings did, I think it's a brilliant move. It puts them in a real good position to make another run, then gives them a chance to evaluate exactly what they want to do next year with a lot of options and a lot of flexability.
| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-07-01 01:10:29 PM |
How is Calgary going to dress a full lineup after signing Bouwmeester at $6.68 million per year? Are they going to put down players who get injured like they do with horses
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-07-01 01:13:27 PM |
I've got my fingers crossed hoping that Ben Eager doesn't get signed again in the NHL
He's a problem that can't wait 2 years for Bettman to be done, so that Colin Campbell can be fired as disciplinarian
He's a problem that can't wait 2 years for Bettman to be done, so that Colin Campbell can be fired as disciplinarian
| palexc | 2009-07-01 01:14:39 PM |
The Sedins creep me out.
| ahwahoo2006
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2009-07-01 01:16:14 PM |
Kovalev gets 2-year, $8.8M deal... Habs also extend offers to Hossa, Gaborik and Havlat.
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:16:45 PM |
Hiro's Protagonist: How is Calgary going to dress a full lineup after signing Bouwmeester at $6.68 million per year? Are they going to put down players who get injured like they do with horses
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
I just got off the phone with Calgary's GM, he told me they are doing it just to spite you. :)
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
I just got off the phone with Calgary's GM, he told me they are doing it just to spite you. :)
| speedk0re | 2009-07-01 01:17:07 PM |
while not technically hockey related, while on tsn.ca to check for updates I noticed this picture about the Canadian Football League?
So the football players in Canada get a stanley cup too? That's rad.
So the football players in Canada get a stanley cup too? That's rad.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 01:17:35 PM |
| Flogster | 2009-07-01 01:17:58 PM |
Hiro's Protagonist: How is Calgary going to dress a full lineup after signing Bouwmeester at $6.68 million per year? Are they going to put down players who get injured like they do with horses
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
Two things . . .
1) Calgary's has plenty of room for Bo with Camm, Bert and Aucoin gone. (Not to mention Jokinen next year)
2) If Luongo signs his rumoured extension with the Sedin's new contract the Canucks aren't going to be swimming in cash either.
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
Two things . . .
1) Calgary's has plenty of room for Bo with Camm, Bert and Aucoin gone. (Not to mention Jokinen next year)
2) If Luongo signs his rumoured extension with the Sedin's new contract the Canucks aren't going to be swimming in cash either.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 01:18:00 PM |
nikknaack1: I just got off the phone with Calgary's GM, he told me they are doing it just to spite you. :)
Or as it's called these days "pulling a Heatly".
Or as it's called these days "pulling a Heatly".
| abmoraz | 2009-07-01 01:19:38 PM |
Colton Orr to the Leafs for 1Mil/yr over 4 years.
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:20:24 PM |
Oshawa: nikknaack1: I just got off the phone with Calgary's GM, he told me they are doing it just to spite you. :)
Or as it's called these days "pulling a Heatly".
So true, so true
Caeldan: palexc: The Sedins creep me out.
You know they tagteam twin puckbunnies back in the hotel.
Dude fark you, first I got the vision of a some hot puck bunny twins in my head, and all was good.... then came the Sedins tag-teaming.... NOT COOL
Or as it's called these days "pulling a Heatly".
So true, so true
Caeldan: palexc: The Sedins creep me out.
You know they tagteam twin puckbunnies back in the hotel.
Dude fark you, first I got the vision of a some hot puck bunny twins in my head, and all was good.... then came the Sedins tag-teaming.... NOT COOL
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 01:20:29 PM |
lol.
Orr to the leafs for 1 mill a year/ 4 year term.
Orr to the leafs for 1 mill a year/ 4 year term.
| jordawesome | 2009-07-01 01:21:38 PM |
Oshawa: nikknaack1: I just got off the phone with Calgary's GM, he told me they are doing it just to spite you. :)
Or as it's called these days "pulling a Heatly".
That also applies to wrecking a Ferrari.
Or as it's called these days "pulling a Heatly".
That also applies to wrecking a Ferrari.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 01:22:11 PM |
Hiro's Protagonist: How is Calgary going to dress a full lineup after signing Bouwmeester at $6.68 million per year? Are they going to put down players who get injured like they do with horses
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
After they signed Bouwmeester, Calgary had cap space of 4.4M left, so I don't know how they're signing Cammalleri without moving someone else.
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
After they signed Bouwmeester, Calgary had cap space of 4.4M left, so I don't know how they're signing Cammalleri without moving someone else.
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:22:52 PM |
jordawesome: Oshawa: nikknaack1: I just got off the phone with Calgary's GM, he told me they are doing it just to spite you. :)
Or as it's called these days "pulling a Heatly".
That also applies to wrecking a Ferrari.
Now that's a hit below the belt, a warning and no point.
/I lol'd
Or as it's called these days "pulling a Heatly".
That also applies to wrecking a Ferrari.
Now that's a hit below the belt, a warning and no point.
/I lol'd
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 01:23:20 PM |
nikknaack1: I think it will be interesting to see what Hossa does. I don't know of many teams that will be contenders in the next couple years who will offer him what he wants.
I think his best be it to try to pick the best team that is on the right track to be a contender like 5 years down the road.
If he is willing to take a discount to be on a contender, he should call Ken Holland back and ask "Any chance we can talk about that offer again?"
Which is why he's looking to sign with the Black Hawks because of all the young talent.
/Just dreading watching Huet falling on his ass 6 times a game in the 09-10 season.
I think his best be it to try to pick the best team that is on the right track to be a contender like 5 years down the road.
If he is willing to take a discount to be on a contender, he should call Ken Holland back and ask "Any chance we can talk about that offer again?"
Which is why he's looking to sign with the Black Hawks because of all the young talent.
/Just dreading watching Huet falling on his ass 6 times a game in the 09-10 season.
| I_Love_Cheesecake | 2009-07-01 01:24:17 PM |
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:24:59 PM |
thefireandpassion: nikknaack1: I think it will be interesting to see what Hossa does. I don't know of many teams that will be contenders in the next couple years who will offer him what he wants.
I think his best be it to try to pick the best team that is on the right track to be a contender like 5 years down the road.
If he is willing to take a discount to be on a contender, he should call Ken Holland back and ask "Any chance we can talk about that offer again?"
Which is why he's looking to sign with the Black Hawks because of all the young talent.
/Just dreading watching Huet falling on his ass 6 times a game in the 09-10 season.
I posted that before I even considered the Hawks. I was expecting Hossa to go looking for a long term deal. This has to be a short term deal or that young talent won't be around for long if they don't take a significant discount.
I think his best be it to try to pick the best team that is on the right track to be a contender like 5 years down the road.
If he is willing to take a discount to be on a contender, he should call Ken Holland back and ask "Any chance we can talk about that offer again?"
Which is why he's looking to sign with the Black Hawks because of all the young talent.
/Just dreading watching Huet falling on his ass 6 times a game in the 09-10 season.
I posted that before I even considered the Hawks. I was expecting Hossa to go looking for a long term deal. This has to be a short term deal or that young talent won't be around for long if they don't take a significant discount.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 01:25:08 PM |
jekostas: Hiro's Protagonist: How is Calgary going to dress a full lineup after signing Bouwmeester at $6.68 million per year? Are they going to put down players who get injured like they do with horses
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
After they signed Bouwmeester, Calgary had cap space of 4.4M left, so I don't know how they're signing Cammalleri without moving someone else.
It could be worse. You could be paying for Scott Gomez.
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
After they signed Bouwmeester, Calgary had cap space of 4.4M left, so I don't know how they're signing Cammalleri without moving someone else.
It could be worse. You could be paying for Scott Gomez.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 01:27:15 PM |
Flogster: Hiro's Protagonist: How is Calgary going to dress a full lineup after signing Bouwmeester at $6.68 million per year? Are they going to put down players who get injured like they do with horses
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
Two things . . .
1) Calgary's has plenty of room for Bo with Camm, Bert and Aucoin gone. (Not to mention Jokinen next year)
2) If Luongo signs his rumoured extension with the Sedin's new contract the Canucks aren't going to be swimming in cash either.
1) Calgary still has to sign a first-line winger and a second-line winger with Cammalleri and Bertuzzi gone.
2) If Luongo signs the extension, with the Sedins re-signed and Hodgson playing up next year, the Canucks will have 9M in cap space. The only glaring needs are a good defenseman and a reasonable second-line winger.
I thought they couldn't even sign Cammalleri if they wanted to, but nhlnumbers.com is under too much load to check right now
Two things . . .
1) Calgary's has plenty of room for Bo with Camm, Bert and Aucoin gone. (Not to mention Jokinen next year)
2) If Luongo signs his rumoured extension with the Sedin's new contract the Canucks aren't going to be swimming in cash either.
1) Calgary still has to sign a first-line winger and a second-line winger with Cammalleri and Bertuzzi gone.
2) If Luongo signs the extension, with the Sedins re-signed and Hodgson playing up next year, the Canucks will have 9M in cap space. The only glaring needs are a good defenseman and a reasonable second-line winger.
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2009-07-01 01:29:30 PM |
nikknaack1: I posted that before I even considered the Hawks. I was expecting Hossa to go looking for a long term deal. This has to be a short term deal or that young talent won't be around for long if they don't take a significant discount.
It has to be a short term deal...otherwise I don't get it.
I wonder how Hossa really likes being a "hired assassin".
It has to be a short term deal...otherwise I don't get it.
I wonder how Hossa really likes being a "hired assassin".
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 01:29:55 PM |
jekostas: It better be a real short contract, then. Havlat was asking for less on a long term deal but Chicago couldn't bit because of Kane and Toews coming out of entry-level contracts after next year.
Another one year deal?
If that ends up true, then Hossa had better be ready to lose again next year. Chicago was good, but after seeing the WCF I think they're still not ready to win the Cup.
Another one year deal?
If that ends up true, then Hossa had better be ready to lose again next year. Chicago was good, but after seeing the WCF I think they're still not ready to win the Cup.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 01:30:31 PM |
Killer Cars: nikknaack1: I posted that before I even considered the Hawks. I was expecting Hossa to go looking for a long term deal. This has to be a short term deal or that young talent won't be around for long if they don't take a significant discount.
It has to be a short term deal...otherwise I don't get it.
I wonder how Hossa really likes being a "hired assassin".
Yeah, how's that going to work? Unless they re-do the divisions the Wings can't beat the Hawks in the SCF
It has to be a short term deal...otherwise I don't get it.
I wonder how Hossa really likes being a "hired assassin".
Yeah, how's that going to work? Unless they re-do the divisions the Wings can't beat the Hawks in the SCF
| speedk0re | 2009-07-01 01:30:43 PM |
Oshawa: Orr to the leafs for 1 mill a year/ 4 year term.
GOD farkING DAMNIT!!!!!
why do all of the best fighting Rangers die in Toronto :(
you will be missed #28... with Mara gone, who the hell is going to stick up for Avery now? Voros?
/sigh
GOD farkING DAMNIT!!!!!
why do all of the best fighting Rangers die in Toronto :(
you will be missed #28... with Mara gone, who the hell is going to stick up for Avery now? Voros?
/sigh
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:31:52 PM |
Killer Cars: nikknaack1: I posted that before I even considered the Hawks. I was expecting Hossa to go looking for a long term deal. This has to be a short term deal or that young talent won't be around for long if they don't take a significant discount.
It has to be a short term deal...otherwise I don't get it.
I wonder how Hossa really likes being a "hired assassin".
Hossa really needs a long term deal and an ability to settle in some place, otherwise, I don't see his problems with playoff production going anywhere. Eventually, teams on the cusp will stop paying for his services because they don't need him to get to the playoffs, they need him to get the over the hump in the playoffs.
It has to be a short term deal...otherwise I don't get it.
I wonder how Hossa really likes being a "hired assassin".
Hossa really needs a long term deal and an ability to settle in some place, otherwise, I don't see his problems with playoff production going anywhere. Eventually, teams on the cusp will stop paying for his services because they don't need him to get to the playoffs, they need him to get the over the hump in the playoffs.
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 01:32:35 PM |
nikknaack1: thefireandpassion: nikknaack1: I think it will be interesting to see what Hossa does. I don't know of many teams that will be contenders in the next couple years who will offer him what he wants.
I think his best be it to try to pick the best team that is on the right track to be a contender like 5 years down the road.
If he is willing to take a discount to be on a contender, he should call Ken Holland back and ask "Any chance we can talk about that offer again?"
Which is why he's looking to sign with the Black Hawks because of all the young talent.
/Just dreading watching Huet falling on his ass 6 times a game in the 09-10 season.
I posted that before I even considered the Hawks. I was expecting Hossa to go looking for a long term deal. This has to be a short term deal or that young talent won't be around for long if they don't take a significant discount.
Hawks wont resign Havlat or Khabibulin, maybe even Pahlsson included on the list, to keep Toews, Kane, and Versteeg when their rookie contracts expire. Which notably is why I dread watching Huet falling over 6 times a game. The Hawks need to find someone to pair with Huet as Huet shouldn't start every game.
I think his best be it to try to pick the best team that is on the right track to be a contender like 5 years down the road.
If he is willing to take a discount to be on a contender, he should call Ken Holland back and ask "Any chance we can talk about that offer again?"
Which is why he's looking to sign with the Black Hawks because of all the young talent.
/Just dreading watching Huet falling on his ass 6 times a game in the 09-10 season.
I posted that before I even considered the Hawks. I was expecting Hossa to go looking for a long term deal. This has to be a short term deal or that young talent won't be around for long if they don't take a significant discount.
Hawks wont resign Havlat or Khabibulin, maybe even Pahlsson included on the list, to keep Toews, Kane, and Versteeg when their rookie contracts expire. Which notably is why I dread watching Huet falling over 6 times a game. The Hawks need to find someone to pair with Huet as Huet shouldn't start every game.
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:33:53 PM |
jekostas: Killer Cars: nikknaack1: I posted that before I even considered the Hawks. I was expecting Hossa to go looking for a long term deal. This has to be a short term deal or that young talent won't be around for long if they don't take a significant discount.
It has to be a short term deal...otherwise I don't get it.
I wonder how Hossa really likes being a "hired assassin".
Yeah, how's that going to work? Unless they re-do the divisions the Wings can't beat the Hawks in the SCF
Isn't Bettman's term coming up here? This could be a possibility!
/Not really serious
It has to be a short term deal...otherwise I don't get it.
I wonder how Hossa really likes being a "hired assassin".
Yeah, how's that going to work? Unless they re-do the divisions the Wings can't beat the Hawks in the SCF
Isn't Bettman's term coming up here? This could be a possibility!
/Not really serious
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 01:36:28 PM |
Whamdangler: I don't know, but the Avs are finally aware that they need a world-class goalie, and there are several free agents out there.
Conklin would be good for them.
Conklin would be good for them.
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 01:36:46 PM |
jekostas: Yeah, how's that going to work? Unless they re-do the divisions the Wings can't beat the Hawks in the SCF
WCF re-match?
thefireandpassion: Hawks wont resign Havlat or Khabibulin, maybe even Pahlsson included on the list, to keep Toews, Kane, and Versteeg when their rookie contracts expire. Which notably is why I dread watching Huet falling over 6 times a game. The Hawks need to find someone to pair with Huet as Huet shouldn't start every game.
That still doesn't mean that Hossa's going to be a long-term deal. As good as Hossa is, I don't think I'd take him over Kane, Toews, and Versteeg...and as the Wings just proved, keeping your young talent AND the high-priced superstar isn't easy in the cap era.
WCF re-match?
thefireandpassion: Hawks wont resign Havlat or Khabibulin, maybe even Pahlsson included on the list, to keep Toews, Kane, and Versteeg when their rookie contracts expire. Which notably is why I dread watching Huet falling over 6 times a game. The Hawks need to find someone to pair with Huet as Huet shouldn't start every game.
That still doesn't mean that Hossa's going to be a long-term deal. As good as Hossa is, I don't think I'd take him over Kane, Toews, and Versteeg...and as the Wings just proved, keeping your young talent AND the high-priced superstar isn't easy in the cap era.
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 01:37:21 PM |
epyonyx: Whamdangler: I don't know, but the Avs are finally aware that they need a world-class goalie, and there are several free agents out there.
Conklin would be good for them.
He would be...but then he wouldn't be in the Winter Classic. We can't have that.
Conklin would be good for them.
He would be...but then he wouldn't be in the Winter Classic. We can't have that.
| Killer Cars
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2009-07-01 01:38:20 PM |
jekostas: Yeah, how's that going to work? Unless they re-do the divisions the Wings can't beat the Hawks in the SCF
Maybe he just really wants to try and stick it to the team he used to play for, no matter the "prize".
I can see it four one-year contracts from now..."YES! My 2013-14 Phoenix Coyotes finished 11th in the WC, just ahead of the LA Kings who paid me a crapload last season to fade down the stretch. VICTORY! SUCK IT KINGS! HAHAHAHA! I can retire a happy man now!"
Maybe he just really wants to try and stick it to the team he used to play for, no matter the "prize".
I can see it four one-year contracts from now..."YES! My 2013-14 Phoenix Coyotes finished 11th in the WC, just ahead of the LA Kings who paid me a crapload last season to fade down the stretch. VICTORY! SUCK IT KINGS! HAHAHAHA! I can retire a happy man now!"
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2009-07-01 01:40:17 PM |
IMDWalrus: epyonyx: Whamdangler: I don't know, but the Avs are finally aware that they need a world-class goalie, and there are several free agents out there.
Conklin would be good for them.
He would be...but then he wouldn't be in the Winter Classic. We can't have that.
Nor would he be able to loose in another SCF!
Conklin would be good for them.
He would be...but then he wouldn't be in the Winter Classic. We can't have that.
Nor would he be able to loose in another SCF!
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 01:40:39 PM |
Christ, TSN just did a short piece on July 1 over the last few years... a BILLION dollars worth of contracts given out for the last three years.
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 01:42:00 PM |
I forgot to mention that I do NOT want the Wings to sign Hossa. They have enough talent to get to the playoffs. They just need to find some obscure player who is ok in regular season and a beast in the post-season. Re-sign Mathieu Dandenault. He is a safe pick to replace Hossa, and he is familiar with the Wings style of play. Keep Samuelsson. Let McCarty go. He isn't as effective as he used to be (I will still consider him a Wing wherever he went).
| NittLion78 | 2009-07-01 01:42:23 PM |
I just can't believe the Pens traded away Ocho Cinco.
| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-07-01 01:43:44 PM |
jekostas: 2) If Luongo signs the extension, with the Sedins re-signed and Hodgson playing up next year, the Canucks will have 9M in cap space. The only glaring needs are a good defenseman and a reasonable second-line winger.
Scott Niedermayer, Rob Niedermayer (?, take over the 3rd line), and Kyle Wellwood (RFA)
Scott knows Yzerman wishes he had the chance to play in Vancouver
Scott Niedermayer, Rob Niedermayer (?, take over the 3rd line), and Kyle Wellwood (RFA)
Scott knows Yzerman wishes he had the chance to play in Vancouver
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 01:44:26 PM |
IMDWalrus: jekostas: Yeah, how's that going to work? Unless they re-do the divisions the Wings can't beat the Hawks in the SCF
WCF re-match?
thefireandpassion: Hawks wont resign Havlat or Khabibulin, maybe even Pahlsson included on the list, to keep Toews, Kane, and Versteeg when their rookie contracts expire. Which notably is why I dread watching Huet falling over 6 times a game. The Hawks need to find someone to pair with Huet as Huet shouldn't start every game.
That still doesn't mean that Hossa's going to be a long-term deal. As good as Hossa is, I don't think I'd take him over Kane, Toews, and Versteeg...and as the Wings just proved, keeping your young talent AND the high-priced superstar isn't easy in the cap era.
More than likely it will be a 1 year contract. I don't think the Hawks will win their division next season. Losing Havlat and Khabibulin is a huge blow. I think the Hawks will make the playoffs, but might be a 6 to 8 seed depending on what they do about losing two key pieces to the puzzle.
/Still happy about being able to watch home games on tv though.
WCF re-match?
thefireandpassion: Hawks wont resign Havlat or Khabibulin, maybe even Pahlsson included on the list, to keep Toews, Kane, and Versteeg when their rookie contracts expire. Which notably is why I dread watching Huet falling over 6 times a game. The Hawks need to find someone to pair with Huet as Huet shouldn't start every game.
That still doesn't mean that Hossa's going to be a long-term deal. As good as Hossa is, I don't think I'd take him over Kane, Toews, and Versteeg...and as the Wings just proved, keeping your young talent AND the high-priced superstar isn't easy in the cap era.
More than likely it will be a 1 year contract. I don't think the Hawks will win their division next season. Losing Havlat and Khabibulin is a huge blow. I think the Hawks will make the playoffs, but might be a 6 to 8 seed depending on what they do about losing two key pieces to the puzzle.
/Still happy about being able to watch home games on tv though.
| Killer Cars
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2009-07-01 01:44:56 PM |
Hiro's Protagonist: Scott knows Yzerman wishes he had the chance to play in Vancouver
Why, does Stevie Y really like sushi?
Why, does Stevie Y really like sushi?
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 01:45:33 PM |
Hiro's Protagonist: jekostas: 2) If Luongo signs the extension, with the Sedins re-signed and Hodgson playing up next year, the Canucks will have 9M in cap space. The only glaring needs are a good defenseman and a reasonable second-line winger.
Scott Niedermayer, Rob Niedermayer (?, take over the 3rd line), and Kyle Wellwood (RFA)
Scott knows Yzerman wishes he had the chance to play in Vancouver
I first heard that Niedermayer resigning with the Ducks isn't a certainty last night. That would be a pure cripple for them after ditching Pronger (even though they got the kitchen sink for him).
Scott Niedermayer, Rob Niedermayer (?, take over the 3rd line), and Kyle Wellwood (RFA)
Scott knows Yzerman wishes he had the chance to play in Vancouver
I first heard that Niedermayer resigning with the Ducks isn't a certainty last night. That would be a pure cripple for them after ditching Pronger (even though they got the kitchen sink for him).
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 01:45:43 PM |
IMDWalrus: epyonyx: Whamdangler: I don't know, but the Avs are finally aware that they need a world-class goalie, and there are several free agents out there.
Conklin would be good for them.
He would be...but then he wouldn't be in the Winter Classic. We can't have that.
Well played. Marty Biron maybe or Mikael Tellqvist? Not seeing any better prospects out there who aren't too old. not sure what the Avs cap is though either.
Conklin would be good for them.
He would be...but then he wouldn't be in the Winter Classic. We can't have that.
Well played. Marty Biron maybe or Mikael Tellqvist? Not seeing any better prospects out there who aren't too old. not sure what the Avs cap is though either.
| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-07-01 01:47:24 PM |
thefireandpassion: I don't think the Hawks will win their division next season. Losing Havlat and Khabibulin is a huge blow.
Hawks could keep Khabibulin if they can ditch Brian Campbell's $7.14mn salary and be able to sign Kane and Toews next year
Hawks could keep Khabibulin if they can ditch Brian Campbell's $7.14mn salary and be able to sign Kane and Toews next year
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 01:47:31 PM |
Oshawa: Hiro's Protagonist: jekostas: 2) If Luongo signs the extension, with the Sedins re-signed and Hodgson playing up next year, the Canucks will have 9M in cap space. The only glaring needs are a good defenseman and a reasonable second-line winger.
Scott Niedermayer, Rob Niedermayer (?, take over the 3rd line), and Kyle Wellwood (RFA)
Scott knows Yzerman wishes he had the chance to play in Vancouver
I first heard that Niedermayer resigning with the Ducks isn't a certainty last night. That would be a pure cripple for them after ditching Pronger (even though they got the kitchen sink for him).
Both Niedermayers have expressed an interest in playing in Vancouver (for a discount, no less) through their agents because of family issues.
Anaheim will make a hard pitch to keep them (Scott more than Rob, I would assume), of course.
Scott Niedermayer, Rob Niedermayer (?, take over the 3rd line), and Kyle Wellwood (RFA)
Scott knows Yzerman wishes he had the chance to play in Vancouver
I first heard that Niedermayer resigning with the Ducks isn't a certainty last night. That would be a pure cripple for them after ditching Pronger (even though they got the kitchen sink for him).
Both Niedermayers have expressed an interest in playing in Vancouver (for a discount, no less) through their agents because of family issues.
Anaheim will make a hard pitch to keep them (Scott more than Rob, I would assume), of course.
| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-07-01 01:48:04 PM |
Killer Cars: Hiro's Protagonist: Scott knows Yzerman wishes he had the chance to play in Vancouver
Why, does Stevie Y really like sushi?
Steve Yzerman - Place of Birth: Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada
Why, does Stevie Y really like sushi?
Steve Yzerman - Place of Birth: Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 01:48:46 PM |
Hmm. Maybe AK47 didn't re-sign with the Habs.
/he'd look great on Geno's wing
/he'd look great on Geno's wing
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 01:50:22 PM |
| Killer Cars
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2009-07-01 01:50:22 PM |
Hiro's Protagonist: Steve Yzerman - Place of Birth: Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada
I figured he was from BC, I was just being stupid.
Cranbrook is a long ass way from Vancouver though.
/I'd like to play in Vancouver just because it's a cool city.
I figured he was from BC, I was just being stupid.
Cranbrook is a long ass way from Vancouver though.
/I'd like to play in Vancouver just because it's a cool city.
| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-07-01 01:51:59 PM |
regardings Luongo's extension, it seems like he and management are very close/happy. Luongo had a great time announcing Vancouver's first round pick in Montreal. I would speculate that Gillis has the go ahead to sign a superstar, and if he pulls it off then Luongo is prepared to be flexible in his own contract to make room
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:52:26 PM |
epyonyx: I forgot to mention that I do NOT want the Wings to sign Hossa. They have enough talent to get to the playoffs. They just need to find some obscure player who is ok in regular season and a beast in the post-season. Re-sign Mathieu Dandenault. He is a safe pick to replace Hossa, and he is familiar with the Wings style of play. Keep Samuelsson. Let McCarty go. He isn't as effective as he used to be (I will still consider him a Wing wherever he went).
Hate to break it to you, but I think Sammy is gone. He seems to want to take his chances on the market and will probably command more than the Wings can afford for him right now
Hate to break it to you, but I think Sammy is gone. He seems to want to take his chances on the market and will probably command more than the Wings can afford for him right now
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 01:52:56 PM |
Hiro's Protagonist: thefireandpassion: I don't think the Hawks will win their division next season. Losing Havlat and Khabibulin is a huge blow.
Hawks could keep Khabibulin if they can ditch Brian Campbell's $7.14mn salary and be able to sign Kane and Toews next year
Eh sure Campbell had a down season, but they'd have to trade Campbell away. He's not even a RFA. Also as good as Khabibulin was down the stretch and into the playoffs for the Hawks Khabi is getting old. They should let him go and find a young talent for the net that's not Huet.
Hawks could keep Khabibulin if they can ditch Brian Campbell's $7.14mn salary and be able to sign Kane and Toews next year
Eh sure Campbell had a down season, but they'd have to trade Campbell away. He's not even a RFA. Also as good as Khabibulin was down the stretch and into the playoffs for the Hawks Khabi is getting old. They should let him go and find a young talent for the net that's not Huet.
| Phillip Ondiz | 2009-07-01 01:54:02 PM |
Whamdangler: whereisian: They resigned Budaj. Link (new window)
Yes, I read about it, but in the article I read, they mentioned they were also going after a better, free-agent goalie. Budaj was a pathetic 20-29 or something last year. The "backup" wasn't any better.
I think they have their eyes on a few #1 goalers with Boods as backup. Worst case scenario is they can't manage the cap with Super Joe coming back and have to call up one of their better performing goaler prospects....which is not a bad option given their apparant youth and development movement.
Yes, I read about it, but in the article I read, they mentioned they were also going after a better, free-agent goalie. Budaj was a pathetic 20-29 or something last year. The "backup" wasn't any better.
I think they have their eyes on a few #1 goalers with Boods as backup. Worst case scenario is they can't manage the cap with Super Joe coming back and have to call up one of their better performing goaler prospects....which is not a bad option given their apparant youth and development movement.
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 01:56:01 PM |
I wouldn't mind seeing Hossa come back, but I don't think it'll happen. He seems to want to balance winning and getting a huge contract...which, at least this year, probably means the "winning" part won't happen.
epyonyx: Re-sign Mathieu Dandenault. He is a safe pick to replace Hossa, and he is familiar with the Wings style of play.
That's an interesting idea. Any idea what kind of contract he'd pull?
Oshawa: I first heard that Niedermayer resigning with the Ducks isn't a certainty last night. That would be a pure cripple for them after ditching Pronger (even though they got the kitchen sink for him).
Is anything that cripples the Ducks really a bad thing?
jekostas: Both Niedermayers have expressed an interest in playing in Vancouver (for a discount, no less) through their agents because of family issues.
Anaheim will make a hard pitch to keep them (Scott more than Rob, I would assume), of course.
Vancouver is looking to save money on jerseys, by having a roster full of players with the same last name.
epyonyx: Re-sign Mathieu Dandenault. He is a safe pick to replace Hossa, and he is familiar with the Wings style of play.
That's an interesting idea. Any idea what kind of contract he'd pull?
Oshawa: I first heard that Niedermayer resigning with the Ducks isn't a certainty last night. That would be a pure cripple for them after ditching Pronger (even though they got the kitchen sink for him).
Is anything that cripples the Ducks really a bad thing?
jekostas: Both Niedermayers have expressed an interest in playing in Vancouver (for a discount, no less) through their agents because of family issues.
Anaheim will make a hard pitch to keep them (Scott more than Rob, I would assume), of course.
Vancouver is looking to save money on jerseys, by having a roster full of players with the same last name.
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 01:56:07 PM |
Colorado signs Craig Anderson?
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:56:39 PM |
TSN: Darren Dreger is reporting the Chicago Blackhawks have apparently signed former Detroit Red Wings winger Marian Hossa. Details to follow...
| Phillip Ondiz | 2009-07-01 01:57:34 PM |
| Flogster | 2009-07-01 01:57:50 PM |
Hiro's Protagonist: Killer Cars: Hiro's Protagonist: Scott knows Yzerman wishes he had the chance to play in Vancouver
Why, does Stevie Y really like sushi?
Steve Yzerman - Place of Birth: Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada
Steve Yzerman - But grew up in Nepean Ont. His work ethic was legend in the local rink there. By that logic he would also want to play in Ottawa.
Why, does Stevie Y really like sushi?
Steve Yzerman - Place of Birth: Cranbrook, British Columbia, Canada
Steve Yzerman - But grew up in Nepean Ont. His work ethic was legend in the local rink there. By that logic he would also want to play in Ottawa.
| FreakinB | 2009-07-01 01:58:09 PM |
IMDWalrus: Vancouver is looking to save money on jerseys, by having a roster full of players with the same last name.
I dunno, Niedermayer is a long last name.
I dunno, Niedermayer is a long last name.
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 01:59:17 PM |
nikknaack1: TSN: Darren Dreger is reporting the Chicago Blackhawks have apparently signed former Detroit Red Wings winger Marian Hossa. Details to follow...
They are going to be in cap hell next year if the Hossa deal is for more than one season.
Suckers.
They are going to be in cap hell next year if the Hossa deal is for more than one season.
Suckers.
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 01:59:19 PM |
Phillip Ondiz: That would be great news-
http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11850
Haven't seen/heard it anywhere else, though.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11850
Haven't seen/heard it anywhere else, though.
| SheepPr0n | 2009-07-01 01:59:36 PM |
Augh. Thank you, Doug Risebrough. May you burn in hell with the likes of Norm Green.
/Yes, I am still bitter.
/Yes, I am still bitter.
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 01:59:51 PM |
nikknaack1: TSN: Darren Dreger is reporting the Chicago Blackhawks have apparently signed former Detroit Red Wings winger Marian Hossa. Details to follow...
If this is true, the Central just got REALLY interesting.
/Yes, I did just quote myself...
If this is true, the Central just got REALLY interesting.
/Yes, I did just quote myself...
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 02:00:04 PM |
nikknaack1: TSN: Darren Dreger is reporting the Chicago Blackhawks have apparently signed former Detroit Red Wings winger Marian Hossa. Details to follow...
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
| Phillip Ondiz | 2009-07-01 02:00:49 PM |
HaveBlue: Phillip Ondiz: That would be great news-
http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11850
Haven't seen/heard it anywhere else, though.
They are reputable enough for hockey news that I would trust the report with no secondary source.
http://tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=11850
Haven't seen/heard it anywhere else, though.
They are reputable enough for hockey news that I would trust the report with no secondary source.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 02:01:23 PM |
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 02:01:50 PM |
HaveBlue: Colorado signs Craig Anderson?
Yep. (new window)
Is getting a goalie from the Pathers really an upgrade, though?
Yep. (new window)
Is getting a goalie from the Pathers really an upgrade, though?
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 02:03:18 PM |
IMDWalrus: nikknaack1: TSN: Darren Dreger is reporting the Chicago Blackhawks have apparently signed former Detroit Red Wings winger Marian Hossa. Details to follow...
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
Except Chelios is old and bad. Waste of roster and cap space. He needs to retire.
Also when hasn't the Detroit/Chicago rivalry ever not been cemented?
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
Except Chelios is old and bad. Waste of roster and cap space. He needs to retire.
Also when hasn't the Detroit/Chicago rivalry ever not been cemented?
| Killer Cars
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2009-07-01 02:03:19 PM |
IMDWalrus: I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
Anyone with a half a brain thought the Red Wings would have a better shot to win the Stanley coming in to last season. Plus, it wasn't like Hossa grew up in the Pens organization...he was a hired (or traded) gun for them as well.
I get the "HAHA" part to his face, that's natural. The "traitor" part? Hell no. What the hell did he owe to the Penguins?
/not a Wings or Pens fan
Anyone with a half a brain thought the Red Wings would have a better shot to win the Stanley coming in to last season. Plus, it wasn't like Hossa grew up in the Pens organization...he was a hired (or traded) gun for them as well.
I get the "HAHA" part to his face, that's natural. The "traitor" part? Hell no. What the hell did he owe to the Penguins?
/not a Wings or Pens fan
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 02:04:16 PM |
Hossa to Hawks!
/good riddance
/good riddance
| SheepPr0n | 2009-07-01 02:05:05 PM |
Unholy hell. Hossa to Chi for 5 Mil a year for 12 years.
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 02:05:24 PM |
TSN-Moderator: Darren Dreger says the Hossa deal in done with Chicago. Details are not finalized, but Bob McKenzie says it will be a cap hit of slightly more than $5 million per year. Could be up to a 12-year deal. Will have precise details soon.
Fuuuuuu---- up to a 12 year deal? 5 mil sal cap hit? Really? Fuuuuu----
Fuuuuuu---- up to a 12 year deal? 5 mil sal cap hit? Really? Fuuuuu----
| flecktarts | 2009-07-01 02:05:25 PM |
Looks like Hossa's moving to Chi-town...
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 02:06:18 PM |
12 year contracts just seem like a bad idea...
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 02:06:28 PM |
IMDWalrus: nikknaack1: TSN: Darren Dreger is reporting the Chicago Blackhawks have apparently signed former Detroit Red Wings winger Marian Hossa. Details to follow...
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
I certianly don't blame Hossa, but I do not understand the move. This seems like it has to be a short term deal or the Hawks could be in trouble. If it is short term, I don't think Hossa is doing himself any favors. I think he needs to find a place to settle down and establish himself.
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
I certianly don't blame Hossa, but I do not understand the move. This seems like it has to be a short term deal or the Hawks could be in trouble. If it is short term, I don't think Hossa is doing himself any favors. I think he needs to find a place to settle down and establish himself.
| Killer Cars
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2009-07-01 02:06:33 PM |
| The Shoveller
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2009-07-01 02:06:49 PM |
Someone should tell the Avs management team that they need a goalie, not a backup. Spend the g*ddam money and get someone GOOD because there is going to be a LOT of rubber flying at the Avs net this year.
| mase_face | 2009-07-01 02:07:12 PM |
Hossa to Chicago! Looks like they got what it takes now to make it to the finals.
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 02:07:49 PM |
IMDWalrus: epyonyx: Re-sign Mathieu Dandenault. He is a safe pick to replace Hossa, and he is familiar with the Wings style of play.
That's an interesting idea. Any idea what kind of contract he'd pull?
I'd give him a 2-3 year contract for no more than $1.5 mil/season.
Did I say good riddance to Hossa yet? I think he is a better fit into the Hawks system and could provide them with some needed leadership after this post-season. Will make the Hawks a better contender next year which will be cool.
If Samuelsson leaves, Wings are going to be hurting on the right side.
That's an interesting idea. Any idea what kind of contract he'd pull?
I'd give him a 2-3 year contract for no more than $1.5 mil/season.
Did I say good riddance to Hossa yet? I think he is a better fit into the Hawks system and could provide them with some needed leadership after this post-season. Will make the Hawks a better contender next year which will be cool.
If Samuelsson leaves, Wings are going to be hurting on the right side.
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 02:07:51 PM |
These long term contracts are getting ridiculous. They really have to be looked at in the next CBA.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 02:08:06 PM |
HaveBlue: 12 year contracts just seem like a bad idea...
It can't be 12 years. He's got like 7 left in him MAX. Even to avoid a larger cap hit this is a terrible idea. Unless you are betting that the cap will be disolved in the next 6 years or so.
It can't be 12 years. He's got like 7 left in him MAX. Even to avoid a larger cap hit this is a terrible idea. Unless you are betting that the cap will be disolved in the next 6 years or so.
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 02:08:17 PM |
thefireandpassion: TSN-Moderator: Darren Dreger says the Hossa deal in done with Chicago. Details are not finalized, but Bob McKenzie says it will be a cap hit of slightly more than $5 million per year. Could be up to a 12-year deal. Will have precise details soon.
Fuuuuuu---- up to a 12 year deal? 5 mil sal cap hit? Really? Fuuuuu----
WTF?!? So he took 1 mil a year more than the Wings were offering... and now Chicago is gonna have an interesting time with that whole cap thing...
Fuuuuuu---- up to a 12 year deal? 5 mil sal cap hit? Really? Fuuuuu----
WTF?!? So he took 1 mil a year more than the Wings were offering... and now Chicago is gonna have an interesting time with that whole cap thing...
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 02:08:32 PM |
thefireandpassion: Also when hasn't the Detroit/Chicago rivalry ever not been cemented?
That may have been a bad word choice. The rivalry's always there regardless of the sport, but thanks to Dollar Bill it's been dormant for a while, since the Blackhawks weren't putting up much of a fight.
Last year was good. After Hossa and the WCF, this year is going to be even better.
Killer Cars: I get the "HAHA" part to his face, that's natural. The "traitor" part? Hell no. What the hell did he owe to the Penguins?
If you believe the posters in the playoff threads, he "screwed" Pittsburgh over in the offseason last year. Of course, if Hossa had stayed, they wouldn't have Guerin (or a few of the other movs they made), and probably wouldn't have won the Cup.
I didn't say it was logical, or smart.
That may have been a bad word choice. The rivalry's always there regardless of the sport, but thanks to Dollar Bill it's been dormant for a while, since the Blackhawks weren't putting up much of a fight.
Last year was good. After Hossa and the WCF, this year is going to be even better.
Killer Cars: I get the "HAHA" part to his face, that's natural. The "traitor" part? Hell no. What the hell did he owe to the Penguins?
If you believe the posters in the playoff threads, he "screwed" Pittsburgh over in the offseason last year. Of course, if Hossa had stayed, they wouldn't have Guerin (or a few of the other movs they made), and probably wouldn't have won the Cup.
I didn't say it was logical, or smart.
| Enrico Pallazzo | 2009-07-01 02:08:44 PM |
Killer Cars: SheepPr0n: Unholy hell. Hossa to Chi for 5 Mil a year for 12 years.
Jesus H. Really?
ESPN confirmed it
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4300131
Jesus H. Really?
ESPN confirmed it
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4300131
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 02:09:19 PM |
HaveBlue: 12 year contracts just seem like a bad idea...
I remember the White Sox signing Jaime Navarro to a 7 or 8 year contract back in like 97. Lesson: Don't sign contracts longer than 5 years.
I can't help but get a bad feeling from this.
/White Sox have gone by this rule since then when it comes to players, especially pitchers.
I remember the White Sox signing Jaime Navarro to a 7 or 8 year contract back in like 97. Lesson: Don't sign contracts longer than 5 years.
I can't help but get a bad feeling from this.
/White Sox have gone by this rule since then when it comes to players, especially pitchers.
| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-07-01 02:09:23 PM |
Flogster: Steve Yzerman - But grew up in Nepean Ont. His work ethic was legend in the local rink there. By that logic he would also want to play in Ottawa.
I don't know, maybe he has more family connections or it is something else. For all I know, he also wanted a chance to play in Ottawa before retiring. However his family put down roots in Detroit, he was a franchise player, and had a textbook classy career right into management
I don't know, maybe he has more family connections or it is something else. For all I know, he also wanted a chance to play in Ottawa before retiring. However his family put down roots in Detroit, he was a franchise player, and had a textbook classy career right into management
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 02:09:42 PM |
Oshawa: HaveBlue: 12 year contracts just seem like a bad idea...
It can't be 12 years. He's got like 7 left in him MAX. Even to avoid a larger cap hit this is a terrible idea. Unless you are betting that the cap will be disolved in the next 6 years or so.
It's confirmed to be 12 years. I haven't seen the break down, but there is no doubt that it is heavily front-loaded.
It can't be 12 years. He's got like 7 left in him MAX. Even to avoid a larger cap hit this is a terrible idea. Unless you are betting that the cap will be disolved in the next 6 years or so.
It's confirmed to be 12 years. I haven't seen the break down, but there is no doubt that it is heavily front-loaded.
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 02:09:48 PM |
thefireandpassion: TSN-Moderator: Darren Dreger says the Hossa deal in done with Chicago. Details are not finalized, but Bob McKenzie says it will be a cap hit of slightly more than $5 million per year. Could be up to a 12-year deal. Will have precise details soon.
Fuuuuuu---- up to a 12 year deal? 5 mil sal cap hit? Really? Fuuuuu----
Holy shiat. Ho. Lee. Shiat.
This is going to make things real interesting once they've got to start dishing out for their younger players.
Fuuuuuu---- up to a 12 year deal? 5 mil sal cap hit? Really? Fuuuuu----
Holy shiat. Ho. Lee. Shiat.
This is going to make things real interesting once they've got to start dishing out for their younger players.
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 02:09:52 PM |
HaveBlue: 12 year contracts just seem like a bad idea...
I think this is going to be one of the next issues that comes up at the next CBA. Contracts should not be longer than 7 years MAX. It is too much of a gamble for the teams and owners.
I think this is going to be one of the next issues that comes up at the next CBA. Contracts should not be longer than 7 years MAX. It is too much of a gamble for the teams and owners.
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 02:09:56 PM |
And the Blues sign Conklin.
| The Shoveller
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2009-07-01 02:10:18 PM |
SheepPr0n: Unholy hell. Hossa to Chi for 5 Mil a year for 12 years.
That'll be a buyout in 5 years. Why do they keep giving these retarded contracts to guys about to hit their 30s? I understand stretching the contract to minimize the cap hit, but you're still going to end up wasting cash for a LONG time while you finish buying the contract. Look at the Islanders and the Yashin deal!
That'll be a buyout in 5 years. Why do they keep giving these retarded contracts to guys about to hit their 30s? I understand stretching the contract to minimize the cap hit, but you're still going to end up wasting cash for a LONG time while you finish buying the contract. Look at the Islanders and the Yashin deal!
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 02:11:15 PM |
TSN reports Chirping Crickets to the Wild...4-yrs @ $5 Mil per.
| Killer Cars
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2009-07-01 02:12:02 PM |
Enrico Pallazzo: ESPN confirmed it
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4300131
Wow. So if they can even somehow keep two of the Toews, Kane and Versteeg trio, they're going to be surrounded by schlups picked up from adult leagues in Ontario.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4300131
Wow. So if they can even somehow keep two of the Toews, Kane and Versteeg trio, they're going to be surrounded by schlups picked up from adult leagues in Ontario.
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 02:13:21 PM |
Matt Walker, from Chicago to Tampa Bsy
| The Shoveller
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2009-07-01 02:13:26 PM |
Killer Cars: Enrico Pallazzo: ESPN confirmed it
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4300131
Wow. So if they can even somehow keep two of the Toews, Kane and Versteeg trio, they're going to be surrounded by schlups picked up from adult leagues in Ontario.
Maybe somebody's nibbling at Campbell.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4300131
Wow. So if they can even somehow keep two of the Toews, Kane and Versteeg trio, they're going to be surrounded by schlups picked up from adult leagues in Ontario.
Maybe somebody's nibbling at Campbell.
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 02:14:30 PM |
| pecochran | 2009-07-01 02:14:52 PM |
IMDWalrus:
If you believe the posters in the playoff threads, he "screwed" Pittsburgh over in the offseason last year. Of course, if Hossa had stayed, they wouldn't have Guerin (or a few of the other movs they made), and probably wouldn't have won the Cup.
I didn't say it was logical, or smart.
I think he did kind of "screw" the Penguins in that he waited awhile to decide which cost them some time working on other targets. But it worked out nicely for them, and the traitor aspect and booing was nonsense.
If you believe the posters in the playoff threads, he "screwed" Pittsburgh over in the offseason last year. Of course, if Hossa had stayed, they wouldn't have Guerin (or a few of the other movs they made), and probably wouldn't have won the Cup.
I didn't say it was logical, or smart.
I think he did kind of "screw" the Penguins in that he waited awhile to decide which cost them some time working on other targets. But it worked out nicely for them, and the traitor aspect and booing was nonsense.
| The Shoveller
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2009-07-01 02:16:05 PM |
a4dzac: The Shoveller: Maybe somebody's nibbling at Campbell.
Highly doubt it with that salary.
I didn't say it was likely, but the move would make much more sense if that were the case.
Highly doubt it with that salary.
I didn't say it was likely, but the move would make much more sense if that were the case.
| Killer Cars
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2009-07-01 02:16:14 PM |
The Shoveller: Maybe somebody's nibbling at Campbell.
With his salary and "meh" performance? Lemme guess...Toronto...
With his salary and "meh" performance? Lemme guess...Toronto...
| SheepPr0n | 2009-07-01 02:16:49 PM |
a4dzac: TSN reports Chirping Crickets to the Wild...4-yrs @ $5 Mil per.
Which player is this, or am I missing some sarcasm?
Which player is this, or am I missing some sarcasm?
| The Shoveller
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2009-07-01 02:17:13 PM |
Killer Cars: The Shoveller: Maybe somebody's nibbling at Campbell.
With his salary and "meh" performance? Lemme guess...Toronto...
Burke's and *sshole, but he's not retarded.
Maybe Calgary needs another d-man....
With his salary and "meh" performance? Lemme guess...Toronto...
Burke's and *sshole, but he's not retarded.
Maybe Calgary needs another d-man....
| BilldaCat10 | 2009-07-01 02:17:32 PM |
If you believe the posters in the playoff threads, he "screwed" Pittsburgh over in the offseason last year. Of course, if Hossa had stayed, they wouldn't have Guerin (or a few of the other movs they made), and probably wouldn't have won the Cup.
I didn't say it was logical, or smart.
Hossa indicated he was likely to come back to Pittsburgh, tying Shero's hands while other FA's were picked up in the initial 2 days of the FA period. Then he bolts for Detroit, and we're left to pick up scrap off the FA wire in the form of Fedotenko and Satan.
Fedotenko didn't have a great regular season, but turned it on in the playoffs. Satan was borderline worthless.
In the end, yeah, Pitt won the Cup. If Hossa left immediately, this "traitor" talk wouldn't be going on. It's only because he screwed the Pens from picking up other FAs thinking they were waiting on him to come back.
I didn't say it was logical, or smart.
Hossa indicated he was likely to come back to Pittsburgh, tying Shero's hands while other FA's were picked up in the initial 2 days of the FA period. Then he bolts for Detroit, and we're left to pick up scrap off the FA wire in the form of Fedotenko and Satan.
Fedotenko didn't have a great regular season, but turned it on in the playoffs. Satan was borderline worthless.
In the end, yeah, Pitt won the Cup. If Hossa left immediately, this "traitor" talk wouldn't be going on. It's only because he screwed the Pens from picking up other FAs thinking they were waiting on him to come back.
| Pump Action Jackson | 2009-07-01 02:18:23 PM |
5.2 Mil a year for 12 years. Holy shiat.
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 02:18:35 PM |
Killer Cars: Enrico Pallazzo: ESPN confirmed it
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4300131
Wow. So if they can even somehow keep two of the Toews, Kane and Versteeg trio, they're going to be surrounded by schlups picked up from adult leagues in Ontario.
This really worries me what they're planning to do. I know Versteeg is older than Toews and Kane with Toews and Kane having a higher upside than Versteeg yet resigning Marty Havlat would have been cheaper that Hossa. I'm sure Havlat would have taken a pay reduction knowing that the Hawks would want to keep their young guys.
What the Hawks thinking? Maybe they want a Cup now with someone who has SCF experience? It doesn't make sense to sign such a long contract.
Oh shiat: Twitter DarrenDreger: Hossa's deal heavily front loaded. 53 mil for the first 7 years of the 12 yr deal. TSN
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4300131
Wow. So if they can even somehow keep two of the Toews, Kane and Versteeg trio, they're going to be surrounded by schlups picked up from adult leagues in Ontario.
This really worries me what they're planning to do. I know Versteeg is older than Toews and Kane with Toews and Kane having a higher upside than Versteeg yet resigning Marty Havlat would have been cheaper that Hossa. I'm sure Havlat would have taken a pay reduction knowing that the Hawks would want to keep their young guys.
What the Hawks thinking? Maybe they want a Cup now with someone who has SCF experience? It doesn't make sense to sign such a long contract.
Oh shiat: Twitter DarrenDreger: Hossa's deal heavily front loaded. 53 mil for the first 7 years of the 12 yr deal. TSN
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 02:18:58 PM |
C'mon Murray, I want to see Pahlsson as a Senator.
Also, apparently Ottawa is going after Calamari
Yum
Also, apparently Ottawa is going after Calamari
Yum
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 02:19:37 PM |
SheepPr0n: Which player is this, or am I missing some sarcasm?
Smart-arse comment, as it feels like a standard Doug Day.
Smart-arse comment, as it feels like a standard Doug Day.
| Mztlplx | 2009-07-01 02:19:50 PM |
IMDWalrus: HaveBlue: Colorado signs Craig Anderson?
Yep. (new window)
Is getting a goalie from the Pathers really an upgrade, though?
Talk to Vancouver about that. I think they're happy.
Yep. (new window)
Is getting a goalie from the Pathers really an upgrade, though?
Talk to Vancouver about that. I think they're happy.
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 02:20:50 PM |
| SheepPr0n | 2009-07-01 02:21:36 PM |
a4dzac: SheepPr0n: Which player is this, or am I missing some sarcasm?
Smart-arse comment, as it feels like a standard Doug Day.
That's what I thought, but I figure I'd at least check.
Would someone please sign Mary-Ann Gaborik so our long nightmare can be over?
Smart-arse comment, as it feels like a standard Doug Day.
That's what I thought, but I figure I'd at least check.
Would someone please sign Mary-Ann Gaborik so our long nightmare can be over?
| Agent Nick Fury
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2009-07-01 02:22:21 PM |
Could someone be a trooper and recap any important signings to save me the trouble of reading through this thread?
Thanks.
Thanks.
| Phillip Ondiz | 2009-07-01 02:23:02 PM |
Agent Nick Fury: Could someone be a trooper and recap any important signings to save me the trouble of reading through this thread?
Thanks.
They are all important!
Thanks.
They are all important!
| Mztlplx | 2009-07-01 02:23:16 PM |
Walker, Ohlund...two D's to Tampa? Have they finally got their heads out of their tuchas there?
/one can only hope
/one can only hope
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 02:23:39 PM |
TSN-Moderator: Chicago has also signed Tomas Kopecky to a two-year deal.
Really? Signing Red Wing players aren't going to land you a Stanley Cup.
Really? Signing Red Wing players aren't going to land you a Stanley Cup.
| SheepPr0n | 2009-07-01 02:23:51 PM |
whereisian: Oshawa: Orr
As a Sens fan, this sucks.
You at least have a scorer. Granted, he doesn't want to be there, but jeese, the Wild 99% chance will not be able to re-sign their only major superstar that has over 25 goals in one year.
The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
As a Sens fan, this sucks.
You at least have a scorer. Granted, he doesn't want to be there, but jeese, the Wild 99% chance will not be able to re-sign their only major superstar that has over 25 goals in one year.
The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 02:24:22 PM |
thefireandpassion: TSN-Moderator: Chicago has also signed Tomas Kopecky to a two-year deal.
Really? Signing Red Wing players aren't going to land you a Stanley Cup.
Especially not Tomas "Broken Face" Kopecky.
Really? Signing Red Wing players aren't going to land you a Stanley Cup.
Especially not Tomas "Broken Face" Kopecky.
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 02:25:24 PM |
Agent Nick Fury: Could someone be a trooper and recap any important signings to save me the trouble of reading through this thread?
Thanks.
Free agents have signed contracts.
Thanks.
Free agents have signed contracts.
| VelvetEvolver | 2009-07-01 02:25:41 PM |
Roloson to the Islanders, per TSN
| The Shoveller
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2009-07-01 02:26:10 PM |
Agent Nick Fury: Could someone be a trooper and recap any important signings to save me the trouble of reading through this thread?
Thanks.
Signing tracker (new window)
Thanks.
Signing tracker (new window)
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 02:26:34 PM |
SheepPr0n: whereisian: Oshawa: Orr
As a Sens fan, this sucks.
You at least have a scorer. Granted, he doesn't want to be there, but jeese, the Wild 99% chance will not be able to re-sign their only major superstar that has over 25 goals in one year.
The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
Heatley for Mikko, straight up.
As a Sens fan, this sucks.
You at least have a scorer. Granted, he doesn't want to be there, but jeese, the Wild 99% chance will not be able to re-sign their only major superstar that has over 25 goals in one year.
The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
Heatley for Mikko, straight up.
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 02:27:00 PM |
Agent Nick Fury: Could someone be a trooper and recap any important signings to save me the trouble of reading through this thread?
Thanks.
Hossa, 12 years in Chicago, 60 million, but front-loaded at 53 million over the first seven. Sedin twins stay in Vancouver for 5 years at 6.1/year on average. Those are the biggest splashes so far.
Thanks.
Hossa, 12 years in Chicago, 60 million, but front-loaded at 53 million over the first seven. Sedin twins stay in Vancouver for 5 years at 6.1/year on average. Those are the biggest splashes so far.
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 02:27:05 PM |
| Agent Nick Fury
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2009-07-01 02:27:18 PM |
The Shoveller: Agent Nick Fury: Could someone be a trooper and recap any important signings to save me the trouble of reading through this thread?
Thanks.
Signing tracker (new window)
Thank you, fine sir
Thanks.
Signing tracker (new window)
Thank you, fine sir
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 02:29:55 PM |
whereisian: SheepPr0n: whereisian: Oshawa: Orr
As a Sens fan, this sucks.
You at least have a scorer. Granted, he doesn't want to be there, but jeese, the Wild 99% chance will not be able to re-sign their only major superstar that has over 25 goals in one year.
The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
Heatley for Mikko, straight up.
What the... that's not so good.
As a Sens fan, this sucks.
You at least have a scorer. Granted, he doesn't want to be there, but jeese, the Wild 99% chance will not be able to re-sign their only major superstar that has over 25 goals in one year.
The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
Heatley for Mikko, straight up.
What the... that's not so good.
| nikknaack1
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2009-07-01 02:30:33 PM |
Chicago better be hoping the cap goes up in the next few years... A lot!
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 02:30:55 PM |
IMDWalrus: thefireandpassion: TSN-Moderator: Chicago has also signed Tomas Kopecky to a two-year deal.
Really? Signing Red Wing players aren't going to land you a Stanley Cup.
Especially not Tomas "Broken Face" Kopecky.
Agreed. I really hope someone is biting at Campbell after this.
Really? Signing Red Wing players aren't going to land you a Stanley Cup.
Especially not Tomas "Broken Face" Kopecky.
Agreed. I really hope someone is biting at Campbell after this.
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 02:31:13 PM |
SheepPr0n: The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
Gaborik couldn't stay healthy though...I think we'll sign Cammilleri. Talks with Saku, Havlat, and Fedotenko were also going on apparently.
Gaborik couldn't stay healthy though...I think we'll sign Cammilleri. Talks with Saku, Havlat, and Fedotenko were also going on apparently.
| 4NSpy | 2009-07-01 02:31:26 PM |
Aw, I was just getting used to the idea of a Sedin-less Canucks. 5 years is so much better than a 12 year deal, good work Gillis.
| Sirjohnfalstaff | 2009-07-01 02:32:09 PM |
Kubina is going to Atlanta according to the Toronto Star. No word on who's going to Toronto.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 02:32:42 PM |
a4dzac: SheepPr0n: The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
Gaborik couldn't stay healthy though...I think we'll sign Cammilleri. Talks with Saku, Havlat, and Fedotenko were also going on apparently.
There is a set bonus on Koivus. Just so you know.
Gaborik couldn't stay healthy though...I think we'll sign Cammilleri. Talks with Saku, Havlat, and Fedotenko were also going on apparently.
There is a set bonus on Koivus. Just so you know.
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 02:34:09 PM |
Oshawa: whereisian: SheepPr0n: whereisian: Oshawa: Orr
As a Sens fan, this sucks.
You at least have a scorer. Granted, he doesn't want to be there, but jeese, the Wild 99% chance will not be able to re-sign their only major superstar that has over 25 goals in one year.
The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
Heatley for Mikko, straight up.
What the... that's not so good.
I can dream, can't I?
As a Sens fan, this sucks.
You at least have a scorer. Granted, he doesn't want to be there, but jeese, the Wild 99% chance will not be able to re-sign their only major superstar that has over 25 goals in one year.
The Wild are losing a large portion of their goal scoring, and their only 'true' goal scorer on the team. Granted, Mikko may be there in a year or two, but he still isn't as good as Gaborik.
Heatley for Mikko, straight up.
What the... that's not so good.
I can dream, can't I?
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 02:35:46 PM |
Sun Media says Heatley is reconsidering the Edmonton deal. Is reality setting in yet Dany?
| FreakinB | 2009-07-01 02:38:25 PM |
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 02:41:11 PM |
So far, the Wings are down four players, with nobody new signed.
I know we've got a lot of young guys in the farm system, but I'd like to see us sign somebody soon.
I know we've got a lot of young guys in the farm system, but I'd like to see us sign somebody soon.
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 02:43:20 PM |
DarrenDreger: Hossa will make $59.3 mil in the first 8 years and $3.5 over final four. www.tsn.ca
So he's going to be guaranteed to play for 8 years I hope.
So he's going to be guaranteed to play for 8 years I hope.
| TKovacs2 | 2009-07-01 02:43:55 PM |
Killer Cars: IMDWalrus: I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
Anyone with a half a brain thought the Red Wings would have a better shot to win the Stanley coming in to last season. Plus, it wasn't like Hossa grew up in the Pens organization...he was a hired (or traded) gun for them as well.
I get the "HAHA" part to his face, that's natural. The "traitor" part? Hell no. What the hell did he owe to the Penguins?
/not a Wings or Pens fan
Keep in mind that when he was in Pittsburgh, the fan base worshiped him. I'm a huge Pens fan, and I was one of the worshipers.
Last year I was at Game 2 in Detroit. After the game (another shutout), along with a bunch of borderline suicidal Pens fans, I proceeded to get tanked in a bar at the hotel we were staying in. We spent a vast majority of the evening chanting "HOSSA!" according to the bartender. Nothing about Fleury, Crosby, Malkin, etc. Just Marian farking Hossa.
What other rental player can you think of that got that kind of love that quickly, and really from an entire fanbase? I think that might explain some of the hurt you constantly hear about.
Well, that and he strung Shero along post July 1 until he headed for Detroit. Saying that they were a better bet to win the Cup (which they were at the time) also tends to offend a fanbase to the extreme.
\Wished for his untimely demise this season
\\Hope he eventually wins one in Chicago
\\\Seems like a classy guy to me
Anyone with a half a brain thought the Red Wings would have a better shot to win the Stanley coming in to last season. Plus, it wasn't like Hossa grew up in the Pens organization...he was a hired (or traded) gun for them as well.
I get the "HAHA" part to his face, that's natural. The "traitor" part? Hell no. What the hell did he owe to the Penguins?
/not a Wings or Pens fan
Keep in mind that when he was in Pittsburgh, the fan base worshiped him. I'm a huge Pens fan, and I was one of the worshipers.
Last year I was at Game 2 in Detroit. After the game (another shutout), along with a bunch of borderline suicidal Pens fans, I proceeded to get tanked in a bar at the hotel we were staying in. We spent a vast majority of the evening chanting "HOSSA!" according to the bartender. Nothing about Fleury, Crosby, Malkin, etc. Just Marian farking Hossa.
What other rental player can you think of that got that kind of love that quickly, and really from an entire fanbase? I think that might explain some of the hurt you constantly hear about.
Well, that and he strung Shero along post July 1 until he headed for Detroit. Saying that they were a better bet to win the Cup (which they were at the time) also tends to offend a fanbase to the extreme.
\Wished for his untimely demise this season
\\Hope he eventually wins one in Chicago
\\\Seems like a classy guy to me
| Whamdangler | 2009-07-01 02:44:05 PM |
Phillip Ondiz: Anderson
Yep, they did.
http://www.9news.com/sports/article.aspx?storyid=118708&catid=345
Not who I was hoping for...but at least it's not Peter "Sieve" Budaj.
Yep, they did.
http://www.9news.com/sports/article.aspx?storyid=118708&catid=345
Not who I was hoping for...but at least it's not Peter "Sieve" Budaj.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 02:45:09 PM |
Brashear to the Rangers apparently.
| cptjeff | 2009-07-01 02:47:30 PM |
Whamdangler: Phillip Ondiz: Anderson
Yep, they did.
http://www.9news.com/sports/article.aspx?storyid=118708&catid=345
Not who I was hoping for...but at least it's not Peter "Sieve" Budaj.
He was actually pretty damn good in Florida when he got the chance to play. Probably going to be pretty good as a starter.
Yep, they did.
http://www.9news.com/sports/article.aspx?storyid=118708&catid=345
Not who I was hoping for...but at least it's not Peter "Sieve" Budaj.
He was actually pretty damn good in Florida when he got the chance to play. Probably going to be pretty good as a starter.
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 02:48:05 PM |
Montador to the Sabres. Wow. Way to make a splash, losers.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 02:48:41 PM |
Caeldan: Brashear to the Rangers apparently.
How to poison a locker room:
Step 1: Sean Avery and Donald Brashear (with his history vs. the ranger)
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit
How to poison a locker room:
Step 1: Sean Avery and Donald Brashear (with his history vs. the ranger)
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 02:49:44 PM |
Don't know who this guy's source is, but...
"Heatley camp claims he will not move until he is the only elite scorer left. This is being treated like a FA situation, and ...'we believe Heatley will command the offers both he and OTT want.'..."
Link (new window)
So Heatley is still sniffing the glue.
"Heatley camp claims he will not move until he is the only elite scorer left. This is being treated like a FA situation, and ...'we believe Heatley will command the offers both he and OTT want.'..."
Link (new window)
So Heatley is still sniffing the glue.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 02:50:39 PM |
whereisian: Don't know who this guy's source is, but...
"Heatley camp claims he will not move until he is the only elite scorer left. This is being treated like a FA situation, and ...'we believe Heatley will command the offers both he and OTT want.'..."
Link (new window)
So Heatley is still sniffing the glue.
He dipped into Redden and Ray's stash apparently.
"Heatley camp claims he will not move until he is the only elite scorer left. This is being treated like a FA situation, and ...'we believe Heatley will command the offers both he and OTT want.'..."
Link (new window)
So Heatley is still sniffing the glue.
He dipped into Redden and Ray's stash apparently.
| Killer Cars
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2009-07-01 02:50:47 PM |
TKovacs2: What other rental player can you think of that got that kind of love that quickly, and really from an entire fanbase? I think that might explain some of the hurt you constantly hear about.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 02:53:38 PM |
Knuble to the Caps for two seasons at 2.8 per year.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 02:53:46 PM |
Oshawa: Caeldan: Brashear to the Rangers apparently.
How to poison a locker room:
Step 1: Sean Avery and Donald Brashear (with his history vs. the ranger)
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit
2 years, 1.4M per year.
Per Daren Millar from Sportsnet
How to poison a locker room:
Step 1: Sean Avery and Donald Brashear (with his history vs. the ranger)
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit
2 years, 1.4M per year.
Per Daren Millar from Sportsnet
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 02:54:02 PM |
Killer Cars: TKovacs2: What other rental player can you think of that got that kind of love that quickly, and really from an entire fanbase? I think that might explain some of the hurt you constantly hear about.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
If he can't handle the chants how will he handle boos if/when he starts sucking here in Chicago? We're not really nice when it comes to bad players. I think that's mostly Cub fans though because we all know no Cub fan truly understands sports, or that the most beloved thing the Cubs had was a life long Cards fan, and got insanely drunk in the White Sox booth.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
If he can't handle the chants how will he handle boos if/when he starts sucking here in Chicago? We're not really nice when it comes to bad players. I think that's mostly Cub fans though because we all know no Cub fan truly understands sports, or that the most beloved thing the Cubs had was a life long Cards fan, and got insanely drunk in the White Sox booth.
| speedk0re | 2009-07-01 02:54:14 PM |
I call bullshiat on Brashear to the Rags... I know Torts is a little off his rocker, but signing the guy that basically ended your previous season with a cheapshot on your main PKing forward?
| ahwahoo2006
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2009-07-01 02:54:19 PM |
thefourthperiod: Hearing Knuble has signed with Capitals... 2-years
| Misch
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2009-07-01 02:55:27 PM |
| whereisian | 2009-07-01 02:55:38 PM |
speedk0re: I call bullshiat on Brashear to the Rags... I know Torts is a little off his rocker, but signing the guy that basically ended your previous season with a cheapshot on your main PKing forward?
What does the coach have to do with the signing?
What does the coach have to do with the signing?
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 02:56:16 PM |
speedk0re: I call bullshiat on Brashear to the Rags... I know Torts is a little off his rocker, but signing the guy that basically ended your previous season with a cheapshot on your main PKing forward?
Don't forget the good ole' chop to the face a few years ago.
Don't forget the good ole' chop to the face a few years ago.
| speedk0re | 2009-07-01 02:56:53 PM |
whereisian: What does the coach have to do with the signing?
Maybe i have a lack of understanding about the way the game is played, but i would think the coach has some input as to what players get signed and what players dont...
Maybe i have a lack of understanding about the way the game is played, but i would think the coach has some input as to what players get signed and what players dont...
| Killer Cars
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2009-07-01 02:56:56 PM |
speedk0re: I call bullshiat on Brashear to the Rags... I know Torts is a little off his rocker, but signing the guy that basically ended your previous season with a cheapshot on your main PKing forward?
And at his age, I can't believe he's willing to stick up for Avery's BS.
"Damn it, Avery's acting like an ass again and pissed off the hornet's nest. Brash, get in there!"
Brashear: *groan* "I'm getting too old for this sh*t".
And at his age, I can't believe he's willing to stick up for Avery's BS.
"Damn it, Avery's acting like an ass again and pissed off the hornet's nest. Brash, get in there!"
Brashear: *groan* "I'm getting too old for this sh*t".
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 02:57:07 PM |
whereisian: speedk0re: I call bullshiat on Brashear to the Rags... I know Torts is a little off his rocker, but signing the guy that basically ended your previous season with a cheapshot on your main PKing forward?
What does the coach have to do with the signing?
Yep. To paraphrase Daryl Sutter from last year: The coach's job is to coach the guys he's given
What does the coach have to do with the signing?
Yep. To paraphrase Daryl Sutter from last year: The coach's job is to coach the guys he's given
| Misch
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2009-07-01 02:57:15 PM |
Misch: I call it a belly flop
On the other hand, "Montador" is the new "Afinigenov", just easier to spell.
On the other hand, "Montador" is the new "Afinigenov", just easier to spell.
| DaScribbler | 2009-07-01 02:57:24 PM |
thefireandpassion: Killer Cars: TKovacs2: What other rental player can you think of that got that kind of love that quickly, and really from an entire fanbase? I think that might explain some of the hurt you constantly hear about.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
If he can't handle the chants how will he handle boos if/when he starts sucking here in Chicago? We're not really nice when it comes to bad players. I think that's mostly Cub fans though because we all know no Cub fan truly understands sports, or that the most beloved thing the Cubs had was a life long Cards fan, and got insanely drunk in the White Sox booth.
Who said he couldn't handle it?
Hossa's a good pickup. Just hope we can get some help at goalie.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
If he can't handle the chants how will he handle boos if/when he starts sucking here in Chicago? We're not really nice when it comes to bad players. I think that's mostly Cub fans though because we all know no Cub fan truly understands sports, or that the most beloved thing the Cubs had was a life long Cards fan, and got insanely drunk in the White Sox booth.
Who said he couldn't handle it?
Hossa's a good pickup. Just hope we can get some help at goalie.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 02:59:09 PM |
Caeldan: Oshawa: Caeldan: Brashear to the Rangers apparently.
How to poison a locker room:
Step 1: Sean Avery and Donald Brashear (with his history vs. the ranger)
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit
2 years, 1.4M per year.
Per Daren Millar from Sportsnet
It's on TSN's board now. I guess that means confirmed.
Sather is just drunk with joy after moving Gomez.
How to poison a locker room:
Step 1: Sean Avery and Donald Brashear (with his history vs. the ranger)
Step 2: ?
Step 3: Profit
2 years, 1.4M per year.
Per Daren Millar from Sportsnet
It's on TSN's board now. I guess that means confirmed.
Sather is just drunk with joy after moving Gomez.
| ahwahoo2006
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2009-07-01 02:59:10 PM |
Brashear to NYR is done. 2 years, $2.8 mil
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 02:59:18 PM |
speedk0re: I call bullshiat on Brashear to the Rags... I know Torts is a little off his rocker, but signing the guy that basically ended your previous season with a cheapshot on your main PKing forward?
TSN's put it on their tracker now as well.
TSN's put it on their tracker now as well.
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 03:01:26 PM |
DaScribbler: thefireandpassion: Killer Cars: TKovacs2: What other rental player can you think of that got that kind of love that quickly, and really from an entire fanbase? I think that might explain some of the hurt you constantly hear about.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
If he can't handle the chants how will he handle boos if/when he starts sucking here in Chicago? We're not really nice when it comes to bad players. I think that's mostly Cub fans though because we all know no Cub fan truly understands sports, or that the most beloved thing the Cubs had was a life long Cards fan, and got insanely drunk in the White Sox booth.
Who said he couldn't handle it?
Hossa's a good pickup. Just hope we can get some help at goalie.
It's not a good pick up when you get rid of the same style player in Marty Havlat who would have taken LESS money meaning theres MORE cap space for Toews, Kane, Keith, and Versteeg later.
We're also losing Sammy Pahlsson so we'll be down one center, but Pahlsson didn't do what he was was suppose to so good riddance.
I agree that the Hawks need goalie help. Huet isn't meant to start every game and he's going to need a good back up once he's being booed off the team for falling over too much.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
If he can't handle the chants how will he handle boos if/when he starts sucking here in Chicago? We're not really nice when it comes to bad players. I think that's mostly Cub fans though because we all know no Cub fan truly understands sports, or that the most beloved thing the Cubs had was a life long Cards fan, and got insanely drunk in the White Sox booth.
Who said he couldn't handle it?
Hossa's a good pickup. Just hope we can get some help at goalie.
It's not a good pick up when you get rid of the same style player in Marty Havlat who would have taken LESS money meaning theres MORE cap space for Toews, Kane, Keith, and Versteeg later.
We're also losing Sammy Pahlsson so we'll be down one center, but Pahlsson didn't do what he was was suppose to so good riddance.
I agree that the Hawks need goalie help. Huet isn't meant to start every game and he's going to need a good back up once he's being booed off the team for falling over too much.
| flecktarts | 2009-07-01 03:01:38 PM |
TKovacs2: What other rental player can you think of that got that kind of love that quickly, and really from an entire fanbase? I think that might explain some of the hurt you constantly hear about.
Killer Cars: Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
As a lifelong Pens fan, I can agree with you entirely. The level of passion for hockey in this city is unprecedented (esp. compared to the previous Cups in the 90's - the turnout for the Cup parade was on par with the Steelers' 2005 champs parade) and certain segments of the population took out their frustration in interesting ways. Like this. For further vitriol, see here.
Thought the dude was the shot in the arm we needed last season, but the secondary scoring/experience level wasn't where it needed to be. Gary Roberts (bless the ol' lug) can only get you so far when the rest of your team is "soff".
Killer Cars: Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
As a lifelong Pens fan, I can agree with you entirely. The level of passion for hockey in this city is unprecedented (esp. compared to the previous Cups in the 90's - the turnout for the Cup parade was on par with the Steelers' 2005 champs parade) and certain segments of the population took out their frustration in interesting ways. Like this. For further vitriol, see here.
Thought the dude was the shot in the arm we needed last season, but the secondary scoring/experience level wasn't where it needed to be. Gary Roberts (bless the ol' lug) can only get you so far when the rest of your team is "soff".
| Phillip Ondiz | 2009-07-01 03:01:56 PM |
cptjeff: Whamdangler: Phillip Ondiz: Anderson
Yep, they did.
http://www.9news.com/sports/article.aspx?storyid=118708&catid=345
Not who I was hoping for...but at least it's not Peter "Sieve" Budaj.
He was actually pretty damn good in Florida when he got the chance to play. Probably going to be pretty good as a starter.
Personally I think it is a great move. Low cap hit for a young goalie who put up very impressive stats while playing behind an argueably awful team. See my previous statement RE: youth movement for the Avs. Gustavvson wouldve been a great signing too, but he is unproven in the NHL and it would have cost more cap space (with bonuses).
Heres to hoping he further develops into a great goaler alongside a very young team.
Yep, they did.
http://www.9news.com/sports/article.aspx?storyid=118708&catid=345
Not who I was hoping for...but at least it's not Peter "Sieve" Budaj.
He was actually pretty damn good in Florida when he got the chance to play. Probably going to be pretty good as a starter.
Personally I think it is a great move. Low cap hit for a young goalie who put up very impressive stats while playing behind an argueably awful team. See my previous statement RE: youth movement for the Avs. Gustavvson wouldve been a great signing too, but he is unproven in the NHL and it would have cost more cap space (with bonuses).
Heres to hoping he further develops into a great goaler alongside a very young team.
| TKovacs2 | 2009-07-01 03:02:44 PM |
Killer Cars: TKovacs2: What other rental player can you think of that got that kind of love that quickly, and really from an entire fanbase? I think that might explain some of the hurt you constantly hear about.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
Was it really any more despicable than the "Crosby sucks" chants heard around most NHL arenas? I didn't really think that Pens fans were particularly hostile towards him during the SCF while in Pittsburgh. Some booing, but that's to be expected. And yes, like any other fan base, we have our mouth breathers and window lickers.
We can't ALL be civilized....
\Except for Flyers fans. You're all garbage.
Pittsburgh has good fans. I'm not too surprised about that.
What he did sucks, I won't deny that, but the vitriol with the "traitor" chants was a little much IMO from some of the 'Burgh faithful.
Was it really any more despicable than the "Crosby sucks" chants heard around most NHL arenas? I didn't really think that Pens fans were particularly hostile towards him during the SCF while in Pittsburgh. Some booing, but that's to be expected. And yes, like any other fan base, we have our mouth breathers and window lickers.
We can't ALL be civilized....
\Except for Flyers fans. You're all garbage.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 03:07:52 PM |
Awww, Scotty decided to stick it out with the ducks.
| NotEric | 2009-07-01 03:14:28 PM |
The Hossa signing is the new way to get around the cap. 12 years for a 30 year old player? And as the reports say, the first 7 years are the ones that matter. After that he can go to the KHL and receive a couple more big paychecks, and since he's gone from the NHL he'll be off the books as far as the Blackhawks are concerned.
I don't know what the contract limit is (assuming there is one) so I'm afraid of seeing more Euro players (who have the best way out of the league where they can keep playing) signing unrealistically long deals. (20 year deals a possibility? DiPietro already got his 15 years, Ovechkin his 13, although that's more realistic)
Only way to prevent this (other than limiting years) would be to change the cap hit to whatever the player is making that year, and not average the hit.
I don't know what the contract limit is (assuming there is one) so I'm afraid of seeing more Euro players (who have the best way out of the league where they can keep playing) signing unrealistically long deals. (20 year deals a possibility? DiPietro already got his 15 years, Ovechkin his 13, although that's more realistic)
Only way to prevent this (other than limiting years) would be to change the cap hit to whatever the player is making that year, and not average the hit.
| swahnhennessy | 2009-07-01 03:17:25 PM |
Catching up after being out with my girls late this afternoon.
Glad to see Colorado snagged Anderson. He's a good stop-gap that could be something more, and they've got two years to see, during which time they'll be rebuilding, so they can afford to take some chances in net.
That Hossa contract is crazy. And I'm the guy who will defend long-ass contracts. But I just don't see how Chicago hopes to retain their youth with Hossa eating up the dough for 12 years. Still, that could pay off immediately. They're almost guaranteed to lose in the SCF next season!
The Islanders made a solid step with Roloson, giving them some insurance with DiPietro.
And look at Tampa Bay. They went from no defense to adding Hedman and Ohlund (for $3.5M!). That is gonna be nice. If they can get halfway consistent goaltending they'll be able to turn it around fast (again).
Glad to see Colorado snagged Anderson. He's a good stop-gap that could be something more, and they've got two years to see, during which time they'll be rebuilding, so they can afford to take some chances in net.
That Hossa contract is crazy. And I'm the guy who will defend long-ass contracts. But I just don't see how Chicago hopes to retain their youth with Hossa eating up the dough for 12 years. Still, that could pay off immediately. They're almost guaranteed to lose in the SCF next season!
The Islanders made a solid step with Roloson, giving them some insurance with DiPietro.
And look at Tampa Bay. They went from no defense to adding Hedman and Ohlund (for $3.5M!). That is gonna be nice. If they can get halfway consistent goaltending they'll be able to turn it around fast (again).
| mansonozz | 2009-07-01 03:18:51 PM |
IMDWalrus: nikknaack1: TSN: Darren Dreger is reporting the Chicago Blackhawks have apparently signed former Detroit Red Wings winger Marian Hossa. Details to follow...
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
Well, to be fair, Hossa didn't jerk the Wings' chain before leaving and allowing us to lose other players. That's why Penguins fans dislike him. Overall I don't know why we still care since everything that happened worked out in favor either way, but it was the principle.
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
Well, to be fair, Hossa didn't jerk the Wings' chain before leaving and allowing us to lose other players. That's why Penguins fans dislike him. Overall I don't know why we still care since everything that happened worked out in favor either way, but it was the principle.
| flecktarts | 2009-07-01 03:19:05 PM |
ducks are solid. they've got the talent to make another serious run at the cup this year, perhaps next...anyone know whether or not they signed beauchemin?
| palexc | 2009-07-01 03:20:14 PM |
I_Love_Cheesecake: palexc: The Sedins creep me out.
Who the fark is this "palexc" calling us creepy?
I LOL'd. :)
But their heads are shaped funny, they look inbred.
Who the fark is this "palexc" calling us creepy?
I LOL'd. :)
But their heads are shaped funny, they look inbred.
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 03:20:17 PM |
NotEric: The Hossa signing is the new way to get around the cap. 12 years for a 30 year old player? And as the reports say, the first 7 years are the ones that matter. After that he can go to the KHL and receive a couple more big paychecks, and since he's gone from the NHL he'll be off the books as far as the Blackhawks are concerned.
I don't know what the contract limit is (assuming there is one) so I'm afraid of seeing more Euro players (who have the best way out of the league where they can keep playing) signing unrealistically long deals. (20 year deals a possibility? DiPietro already got his 15 years, Ovechkin his 13, although that's more realistic)
Only way to prevent this (other than limiting years) would be to change the cap hit to whatever the player is making that year, and not average the hit.
there isn't a limit in hockey like there is in football which is why there are these 12 year contract signings.
I don't know what the contract limit is (assuming there is one) so I'm afraid of seeing more Euro players (who have the best way out of the league where they can keep playing) signing unrealistically long deals. (20 year deals a possibility? DiPietro already got his 15 years, Ovechkin his 13, although that's more realistic)
Only way to prevent this (other than limiting years) would be to change the cap hit to whatever the player is making that year, and not average the hit.
there isn't a limit in hockey like there is in football which is why there are these 12 year contract signings.
| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-07-01 03:20:32 PM |
I am so sad that Niedermayer just signed a 1 year $6mn + bonus contract in Anaheim
| Mztlplx | 2009-07-01 03:20:39 PM |
flecktarts: anyone know whether or not they signed beauchemin?
Here's hoping Tampa adds him to their growing list of D-men.
Here's hoping Tampa adds him to their growing list of D-men.
| mansonozz | 2009-07-01 03:22:04 PM |
mansonozz: IMDWalrus: nikknaack1: TSN: Darren Dreger is reporting the Chicago Blackhawks have apparently signed former Detroit Red Wings winger Marian Hossa. Details to follow...
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
Well, to be fair, Hossa didn't jerk the Wings' chain before leaving and allowing us to lose other players. That's why Penguins fans dislike him. Overall I don't know why we still care since everything that happened worked out in favor either way, but it was the principle.
Eh, I see that's been touched upon. Oh well.
Believe what you want and save the chatter, unless that's all you have to make yourself feel good. I'm sure not going to hang around to argue about it.
Damn. I didn't want the Wings to keep Hossa - not at the amount of money he wanted, at least - but this is still a letdown, especially with him moving to another team in our division.
I promise not to pull an Idiot Penguins Fan and call him a traitor, though. Hossa seemed like a nice guy, and he definitely helped in the regular season.
I think this cements a Detroit/Chicago rivalry, for at least one season. The Hawks should sign Chelios, too, just to throw more fuel on that fire.
Well, to be fair, Hossa didn't jerk the Wings' chain before leaving and allowing us to lose other players. That's why Penguins fans dislike him. Overall I don't know why we still care since everything that happened worked out in favor either way, but it was the principle.
Eh, I see that's been touched upon. Oh well.
Believe what you want and save the chatter, unless that's all you have to make yourself feel good. I'm sure not going to hang around to argue about it.
| Hiro's Protagonist | 2009-07-01 03:22:38 PM |
Hossa contract = Franzen loophole
It will be closed, just a matter of time. In the mean time, next year's salary cap might be in the mid 40s which will put most of the league in a serious bind
It will be closed, just a matter of time. In the mean time, next year's salary cap might be in the mid 40s which will put most of the league in a serious bind
| palexc | 2009-07-01 03:23:39 PM |
Killer Cars: speedk0re: I call bullshiat on Brashear to the Rags... I know Torts is a little off his rocker, but signing the guy that basically ended your previous season with a cheapshot on your main PKing forward?
And at his age, I can't believe he's willing to stick up for Avery's BS.
"Damn it, Avery's acting like an ass again and pissed off the hornet's nest. Brash, get in there!"
Brashear: *groan* "I'm getting too old for this sh*t".
I'll take Avery over Brash any day.
And at his age, I can't believe he's willing to stick up for Avery's BS.
"Damn it, Avery's acting like an ass again and pissed off the hornet's nest. Brash, get in there!"
Brashear: *groan* "I'm getting too old for this sh*t".
I'll take Avery over Brash any day.
| pecochran | 2009-07-01 03:23:59 PM |
NotEric: The Hossa signing is the new way to get around the cap. 12 years for a 30 year old player? And as the reports say, the first 7 years are the ones that matter. After that he can go to the KHL and receive a couple more big paychecks, and since he's gone from the NHL he'll be off the books as far as the Blackhawks are concerned.
If he's over 35, how will he be off the books? I'm confused by this rule, but I thought that prevented that.
If he's over 35, how will he be off the books? I'm confused by this rule, but I thought that prevented that.
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 03:25:08 PM |
Hiro's Protagonist: Hossa contract = Franzen loophole
It will be closed, just a matter of time. In the mean time, next year's salary cap might be in the mid 40s which will put most of the league in a serious bind
Cap should be increasing not decreasing by salary trends from FA and resigns. If it does decrease then teams will be resigning players sooner rather than later to keep the current years cap.
It will be closed, just a matter of time. In the mean time, next year's salary cap might be in the mid 40s which will put most of the league in a serious bind
Cap should be increasing not decreasing by salary trends from FA and resigns. If it does decrease then teams will be resigning players sooner rather than later to keep the current years cap.
| NotEric | 2009-07-01 03:25:59 PM |
I was under the assumption that his "retirement" and/or refusal to show up for camp would mean his contract would no longer count against the cap.
| speedk0re | 2009-07-01 03:26:14 PM |
damn it is true; i can't believe the Rags let go of Orr, and signed his cheapshoting arch-nemesis for an extra 400,000/year. I haven't been this upset over a goon signing since Chris Simon wore a blue shirt :(
| pecochran | 2009-07-01 03:32:37 PM |
NotEric: I was under the assumption that his "retirement" and/or refusal to show up for camp would mean his contract would no longer count against the cap.
Yeah, I think you're right. I guess it only applies if the guy is 35 at the time he signs the contract.
I could still be wrong though.
Yeah, I think you're right. I guess it only applies if the guy is 35 at the time he signs the contract.
I could still be wrong though.
| NotEric | 2009-07-01 03:34:00 PM |
This goes over the age 35 question a bit.
"Over 35 Signings: If a player who, as of June 30 of the upcoming season, is over the age of 35 signs a multi-year deal, the signing team will take a cap hit for each year on the contract, regardless of if the player retires. "
Example: "However, since Markus Naslund's 35th birthday was after June 30, he was 34 as of June 30, thus his retirement removes his cap hit."
So since Hossa signed the deal before he turned 35, the cap hit can and will be removed if and when he chooses to "retire".
So yes, loophole the size of Texas here.
"Over 35 Signings: If a player who, as of June 30 of the upcoming season, is over the age of 35 signs a multi-year deal, the signing team will take a cap hit for each year on the contract, regardless of if the player retires. "
Example: "However, since Markus Naslund's 35th birthday was after June 30, he was 34 as of June 30, thus his retirement removes his cap hit."
So since Hossa signed the deal before he turned 35, the cap hit can and will be removed if and when he chooses to "retire".
So yes, loophole the size of Texas here.
| Mztlplx | 2009-07-01 03:34:41 PM |
Tampa keeps Krajicek. More D!
/keep McKenna, let Ramo go
//dare I say it? Khabi?
/keep McKenna, let Ramo go
//dare I say it? Khabi?
| ulwais
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2009-07-01 03:35:34 PM |
speedk0re: You mean this isn't what you thought Sather was talking about when he said suckering the Habs into taking Gomez would let him make other moves?
| pecochran | 2009-07-01 03:36:13 PM |
I see now. Thank you.
| palexc | 2009-07-01 03:47:14 PM |
speedk0re: damn it is true; i can't believe the Rags let go of Orr, and signed his cheapshoting arch-nemesis for an extra 400,000/year. I haven't been this upset over a goon signing since Chris Simon wore a blue shirt :(
Orr was so-so as an enforcer. Servicable, but young and frankly, he lost a lot of fights. The fans liked him, but won't be too broken up over this.
Brashear, is another matter though. He better let Betts take a free swing at him in training camp.
Orr was so-so as an enforcer. Servicable, but young and frankly, he lost a lot of fights. The fans liked him, but won't be too broken up over this.
Brashear, is another matter though. He better let Betts take a free swing at him in training camp.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 03:51:53 PM |
Sportnet Reports: Kaberle/Kessel talks are back on.
| HaveBlue
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2009-07-01 03:55:36 PM |
Spacek to Montreal.
I haven't paid much attention to them, but have the Sabres done anything besides lose players in the last few years? I feel like every year a few decent-to-good players end up walking away for nothing.
I haven't paid much attention to them, but have the Sabres done anything besides lose players in the last few years? I feel like every year a few decent-to-good players end up walking away for nothing.
| speedk0re | 2009-07-01 03:55:59 PM |
palexc: Orr was so-so as an enforcer. Servicable, but young and frankly, he lost a lot of fights. The fans liked him, but won't be too broken up over this.
I would say Orr is far better than so-so. Last year alone he had 12 Wins 4 Losses 2 Draws (according to hockeyfights.com) with wins over heavyweights such as riley cote, eric boulton, eric godard, mitch tritz, michael rupp to name a few. That stupid smirk he always carried, win or lose, to the penalty box will definitely be missed. The only guy who could consistently beat Orr was, well, Brashear
I would say Orr is far better than so-so. Last year alone he had 12 Wins 4 Losses 2 Draws (according to hockeyfights.com) with wins over heavyweights such as riley cote, eric boulton, eric godard, mitch tritz, michael rupp to name a few. That stupid smirk he always carried, win or lose, to the penalty box will definitely be missed. The only guy who could consistently beat Orr was, well, Brashear
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 03:58:53 PM |
HaveBlue: Spacek to Montreal.
I haven't paid much attention to them, but have the Sabres done anything besides lose players in the last few years? I feel like every year a few decent-to-good players end up walking away for nothing.
LOL Doc is going to loose his mind.
I haven't paid much attention to them, but have the Sabres done anything besides lose players in the last few years? I feel like every year a few decent-to-good players end up walking away for nothing.
LOL Doc is going to loose his mind.
| jordawesome | 2009-07-01 04:03:46 PM |
K'bulin has tentative deal with the Oilers according to TSN...
| thefireandpassion | 2009-07-01 04:07:25 PM |
TSN-Moderator: Bob McKenzie reports that the contract for Khabibulin is four years for $15 million in total.
| jordawesome | 2009-07-01 04:07:37 PM |
jordawesome: K'bulin has tentative deal with the Oilers according to TSN...
4yr, $15M, TSN is reporting.
4yr, $15M, TSN is reporting.
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 04:09:34 PM |
So is Huet the starting goaltender now for the Hawks?
LOL.
Good thing they got Hossa. They will need to score 5 or 6 goals a game to win.
LOL.
Good thing they got Hossa. They will need to score 5 or 6 goals a game to win.
| palexc | 2009-07-01 04:11:14 PM |
speedk0re: palexc: Orr was so-so as an enforcer. Servicable, but young and frankly, he lost a lot of fights. The fans liked him, but won't be too broken up over this.
I would say Orr is far better than so-so. Last year alone he had 12 Wins 4 Losses 2 Draws (according to hockeyfights.com) with wins over heavyweights such as riley cote, eric boulton, eric godard, mitch tritz, michael rupp to name a few. That stupid smirk he always carried, win or lose, to the penalty box will definitely be missed. The only guy who could consistently beat Orr was, well, Brashear
True, I liked the way Orr carried himself a lot. I guess I don't remember his wins as much as his struggling years.
Random comment on some blog about the Brashear signing: "I'm just thankful we have Brashear on our side now to protect us from Ray Emery."
I would say Orr is far better than so-so. Last year alone he had 12 Wins 4 Losses 2 Draws (according to hockeyfights.com) with wins over heavyweights such as riley cote, eric boulton, eric godard, mitch tritz, michael rupp to name a few. That stupid smirk he always carried, win or lose, to the penalty box will definitely be missed. The only guy who could consistently beat Orr was, well, Brashear
True, I liked the way Orr carried himself a lot. I guess I don't remember his wins as much as his struggling years.
Random comment on some blog about the Brashear signing: "I'm just thankful we have Brashear on our side now to protect us from Ray Emery."
| SheepPr0n | 2009-07-01 04:12:52 PM |
Wow, the Wild are so screwed. I thought CF was like, oh, I dunno. Maybe, perhaps, MIGHT DO SOMETHING?
Harding and Bouchard to CHI for Toews? Is that too much to ask?
Harding and Bouchard to CHI for Toews? Is that too much to ask?
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 04:13:34 PM |
palexc:
Random comment on some blog about the Brashear signing: "I'm just thankful we have Brashear on our side now to protect us from Ray Emery."
LOL, I'd take the Emery side of that fight any day of the week.
Pretty funny comment though.
Random comment on some blog about the Brashear signing: "I'm just thankful we have Brashear on our side now to protect us from Ray Emery."
LOL, I'd take the Emery side of that fight any day of the week.
Pretty funny comment though.
| Oshawa | 2009-07-01 04:14:14 PM |
SheepPr0n: Wow, the Wild are so screwed. I thought CF was like, oh, I dunno. Maybe, perhaps, MIGHT DO SOMETHING?
Harding and Bouchard to CHI for Toews? Is that too much to ask?
Way too much to ask.
Harding and Bouchard to CHI for Toews? Is that too much to ask?
Way too much to ask.
| Misch
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2009-07-01 04:15:27 PM |
Spacek to Montreal.shiat.
| Five Tails of Fury | 2009-07-01 04:17:28 PM |
Canucks fan here, happy to see the Sedins are tied up again; losing Ohlund will sting, but I see we scooped a low-cost D-man, Aaron Rome, already that may help a little. (Anyone know anything about him?)
I'm hoping for another fast, scoring forward and/or a two-way defenseman - Luongo's a genius at stopping lots of shots, but honestly I'd rather see him facing less than 30 shots a game more often. Might keep him from the groin strains a little more.
I'm hoping for another fast, scoring forward and/or a two-way defenseman - Luongo's a genius at stopping lots of shots, but honestly I'd rather see him facing less than 30 shots a game more often. Might keep him from the groin strains a little more.
| DaScribbler | 2009-07-01 04:18:55 PM |
Hearing Havlat to the Habs ...
| Doc Daneeka | 2009-07-01 04:24:03 PM |
Oshawa: HaveBlue: Spacek to Montreal.
LOL Doc is going to loose his mind.
Apparently picked up Steve Montador to replace him.
I'm withholding judgment on this one. Obviously he's not going to replace Spacek's goal-scoring, but maybe he can bring some much-needed physicality on the blue-line. The Sabres forum over at HFBoards seems to like the deal, so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and wait and see.
Oshawa: HaveBlue: I haven't paid much attention to them, but have the Sabres done anything besides lose players in the last few years? I feel like every year a few decent-to-good players end up walking away for nothing.
If you paid attention to the Sabres last off-season, you would have seen them locking a lot of guys down into multi-year deals. Even some that they probably shouldn't have (i.e. Connolly). Clearly they were rattled and reacting to what had happened the previous summer.
LOL Doc is going to loose his mind.
Apparently picked up Steve Montador to replace him.
I'm withholding judgment on this one. Obviously he's not going to replace Spacek's goal-scoring, but maybe he can bring some much-needed physicality on the blue-line. The Sabres forum over at HFBoards seems to like the deal, so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and wait and see.
Oshawa: HaveBlue: I haven't paid much attention to them, but have the Sabres done anything besides lose players in the last few years? I feel like every year a few decent-to-good players end up walking away for nothing.
If you paid attention to the Sabres last off-season, you would have seen them locking a lot of guys down into multi-year deals. Even some that they probably shouldn't have (i.e. Connolly). Clearly they were rattled and reacting to what had happened the previous summer.
| Drakin020 | 2009-07-01 04:26:02 PM |
Wow, they traded Habbybullen to Chicago (Yeah I know it's not spelled right, I dont care)
| Doc Daneeka | 2009-07-01 04:29:38 PM |
The other thing to keep in mind about the Sabres blueline is that it is very likely that the Chara-esque d-man Tyler Myers will earn a permanent spot out of camp, given his breakout season in Canadian juniors.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 04:33:46 PM |
Clemmer's a panther now apparently, and erik cole re-signs with the Canes for a 2 year deal at 2.9 cap hit.
| DalaiLamaDingDong | 2009-07-01 04:34:39 PM |
Drakin020: Wow, they traded Habbybullen to Chicago (Yeah I know it's not spelled right, I dont care)
And you didn't notice that Khabibulin was already playing for Chicago, and was just traded to Edmonton.
And you didn't notice that Khabibulin was already playing for Chicago, and was just traded to Edmonton.
| GQueue | 2009-07-01 04:36:07 PM |
SheepPr0n: Harding and Bouchard to CHI for Toews? Is that too much to ask?
Toews and Kane are not going anywhere.
Toews and Kane are not going anywhere.
| flecktarts | 2009-07-01 04:37:10 PM |
Drakin020: Wow, they traded Habbybullen to Chicago (Yeah I know it's not spelled right, I dont care)
errr...yeah.
errr...yeah.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 04:38:59 PM |
DalaiLamaDingDong: And you didn't notice that Khabibulin was already playing for Chicago, and was just traded to Edmonton.
Not traded, Bulin signed as a free agent to Edmonton.
Terrible signing by Edmonton though.
Not traded, Bulin signed as a free agent to Edmonton.
Terrible signing by Edmonton though.
| DalaiLamaDingDong | 2009-07-01 04:39:35 PM |
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 04:41:19 PM |
GQueue: SheepPr0n: Harding and Bouchard to CHI for Toews? Is that too much to ask?
Toews and Kane are not going anywhere.
No? Then a whole bunch of other Hawks are going to have to walk in order to get those two under the cap next year.
Toews and Kane are not going anywhere.
No? Then a whole bunch of other Hawks are going to have to walk in order to get those two under the cap next year.
| jordawesome | 2009-07-01 04:42:50 PM |
Caeldan: DalaiLamaDingDong: And you didn't notice that Khabibulin was already playing for Chicago, and was just traded to Edmonton.
Not traded, Bulin signed as a free agent to Edmonton.
Terrible signing by Edmonton though.
I don't think it's that terrible -- It's not like we snagged Spacek or anything. Again.
Not traded, Bulin signed as a free agent to Edmonton.
Terrible signing by Edmonton though.
I don't think it's that terrible -- It's not like we snagged Spacek or anything. Again.
| manwithdaplan | 2009-07-01 04:43:24 PM |
Caeldan
Not traded, Bulin signed as a free agent to Edmonton.
Terrible signing by Edmonton though.
Care to explain? Money is not much more than Roloson, you get a better keeper, younger, and Stanley Cup winner....
Not traded, Bulin signed as a free agent to Edmonton.
Terrible signing by Edmonton though.
Care to explain? Money is not much more than Roloson, you get a better keeper, younger, and Stanley Cup winner....
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 04:44:55 PM |
Caeldan: Terrible signing by Edmonton though.
Why? I'd take Khabibulin over Roloson, and apparently so would they.
Why? I'd take Khabibulin over Roloson, and apparently so would they.
| swahnhennessy | 2009-07-01 04:45:08 PM |
Philly got even tougher by signing Lappy.
| GQueue | 2009-07-01 04:45:37 PM |
Katalyst: No? Then a whole bunch of other Hawks are going to have to walk in order to get those two under the cap next year.
That's far more likely than them sending Toews or Kane anywhere unless someone gives them a truly ridiculous offer to trade one of them.
That's far more likely than them sending Toews or Kane anywhere unless someone gives them a truly ridiculous offer to trade one of them.
| DalaiLamaDingDong | 2009-07-01 04:45:42 PM |
manwithdaplan: Care to explain? Money is not much more than Roloson, you get a better keeper, younger, and Stanley Cup winner....
THIS.
Does anybody have anymore details of the Heatly deal?
THIS.
Does anybody have anymore details of the Heatly deal?
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 04:49:00 PM |
manwithdaplan: Care to explain? Money is not much more than Roloson, you get a better keeper, younger, and Stanley Cup winner....
IMDWalrus: Why? I'd take Khabibulin over Roloson, and apparently so would they.
Roloson can play a full season.
Khabibulin only started in 40 last year, playing 42 total - and missed about 16 games with injury (and 2 in the playoffs).
Khabibulin's on a multi-year deal as an over35 contract - meaning that they can't bury him in the AHL or hope he retires to clear the cap space if it's not working out. So best that Edmonton can hope for is that he goes out indefinitely with another groin or back injury - and stays out so they can get an LTI exception.
He's also regularly been a contract player - see this past season, and his Cup season with Tampa Bay. Every other year he's played he's been pretty darn mediocre.
IMDWalrus: Why? I'd take Khabibulin over Roloson, and apparently so would they.
Roloson can play a full season.
Khabibulin only started in 40 last year, playing 42 total - and missed about 16 games with injury (and 2 in the playoffs).
Khabibulin's on a multi-year deal as an over35 contract - meaning that they can't bury him in the AHL or hope he retires to clear the cap space if it's not working out. So best that Edmonton can hope for is that he goes out indefinitely with another groin or back injury - and stays out so they can get an LTI exception.
He's also regularly been a contract player - see this past season, and his Cup season with Tampa Bay. Every other year he's played he's been pretty darn mediocre.
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 04:49:24 PM |
IMDWalrus: So far, the Wings are down four players, with nobody new signed.
I know we've got a lot of young guys in the farm system, but I'd like to see us sign somebody soon.
Amen.
I know we've got a lot of young guys in the farm system, but I'd like to see us sign somebody soon.
Amen.
| manwithdaplan | 2009-07-01 04:51:08 PM |
DalaiLamaDingDong
Does anybody have anymore details of the Heatly deal?
I think Murray is dipping the end of Sather's cigar in liquid LSD to try and extract some better Ranger players - ie, dubinsky/callahan/stall, instead of the crap Zherdev on offer. heatley will go to the Rangers in a heartbeat.
heater might still come to Edmonton, at this point I still want him, but the mofo better bring his 'A' game
Does anybody have anymore details of the Heatly deal?
I think Murray is dipping the end of Sather's cigar in liquid LSD to try and extract some better Ranger players - ie, dubinsky/callahan/stall, instead of the crap Zherdev on offer. heatley will go to the Rangers in a heartbeat.
heater might still come to Edmonton, at this point I still want him, but the mofo better bring his 'A' game
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 04:51:11 PM |
Also, his final season with Phoenix.
| legion_of_doo | 2009-07-01 04:51:40 PM |
whereisian: Don't know who this guy's source is, but...
"Heatley camp claims he will not move until he is the only elite scorer left. This is being treated like a FA situation, and ...'we believe Heatley will command the offers both he and OTT want.'..."
Link (new window)
So Heatley is still sniffing the glue.
He could always offer to carpool with some of the guys on the Sens' top lines...
"Heatley camp claims he will not move until he is the only elite scorer left. This is being treated like a FA situation, and ...'we believe Heatley will command the offers both he and OTT want.'..."
Link (new window)
So Heatley is still sniffing the glue.
He could always offer to carpool with some of the guys on the Sens' top lines...
| Quadraton
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2009-07-01 04:51:45 PM |
Rumours have Hal Gill going to Montreal and Lapierre going to the Flyers. What the f*ck is Gainey trying to do to this team?
| ulwais
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2009-07-01 04:52:55 PM |
I'm a little surprised at the Clemmensen deal, would've expected him to get a bit more from a team like Chicago. Huet's contract makes trading him impossible so they need a decent, reasonably priced backup
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 04:53:02 PM |
Wings aren't looking to win the Cup next year it seems. I wonder if they are looking to rebuild (what? not sure), re-organize the players (more likely), or they just have been uber-capped (and I am not seeing it). Their RW position is really going to weaken unless they sign someone. Not sure what Holland is thinking or has up his sleeve, but I wish I knew. Kind of disappointing me right now.
| Katalyst | 2009-07-01 04:53:07 PM |
Gill to the Habs. 2 years. 4.5.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 04:55:23 PM |
epyonyx: Wings aren't looking to win the Cup next year it seems. I wonder if they are looking to rebuild (what? not sure), re-organize the players (more likely), or they just have been uber-capped (and I am not seeing it). Their RW position is really going to weaken unless they sign someone. Not sure what Holland is thinking or has up his sleeve, but I wish I knew. Kind of disappointing me right now.
Don't the Wings have a few kids ready to break into the lineup this year? I mean they've got guys like Helm who have played more playoff than regular season games over 2 years...
Don't the Wings have a few kids ready to break into the lineup this year? I mean they've got guys like Helm who have played more playoff than regular season games over 2 years...
| manwithdaplan | 2009-07-01 04:56:26 PM |
Caeldan
Roloson can play a full season.
Khabibulin only started in 40 last year, playing 42 total - and missed about 16 games with injury (and 2 in the playoffs).
Roli wore out big time last year - he is fine if he plays 60 games, but that long stretch at the end of last year exposed him.
Khabibulin's on a multi-year deal as an over35 contract - meaning that they can't bury him in the AHL or hope he retires to clear the cap space if it's not working out. So best that Edmonton can hope for is that he goes out indefinitely with another groin or back injury - and stays out so they can get an LTI exception.
This is true, but he is only 35, 4 years younger than Roli. Goalies can play alot longer than the out positions, so while a gamble, it is a good one.
He's also regularly been a contract player - see this past season, and his Cup season with Tampa Bay. Every other year he's played he's been pretty darn mediocre.
this is pure crap. 11 out of his 13 seasons save pct over 900, great GAA. He needs to show JDD in Edmonton how to play, so if he makes it 60 games, that is perfect.
Roloson can play a full season.
Khabibulin only started in 40 last year, playing 42 total - and missed about 16 games with injury (and 2 in the playoffs).
Roli wore out big time last year - he is fine if he plays 60 games, but that long stretch at the end of last year exposed him.
Khabibulin's on a multi-year deal as an over35 contract - meaning that they can't bury him in the AHL or hope he retires to clear the cap space if it's not working out. So best that Edmonton can hope for is that he goes out indefinitely with another groin or back injury - and stays out so they can get an LTI exception.
This is true, but he is only 35, 4 years younger than Roli. Goalies can play alot longer than the out positions, so while a gamble, it is a good one.
He's also regularly been a contract player - see this past season, and his Cup season with Tampa Bay. Every other year he's played he's been pretty darn mediocre.
this is pure crap. 11 out of his 13 seasons save pct over 900, great GAA. He needs to show JDD in Edmonton how to play, so if he makes it 60 games, that is perfect.
| Winterstar | 2009-07-01 04:57:38 PM |
epyonyx: Wings aren't looking to win the Cup next year it seems. I wonder if they are looking to rebuild (what? not sure), re-organize the players (more likely), or they just have been uber-capped (and I am not seeing it). Their RW position is really going to weaken unless they sign someone. Not sure what Holland is thinking or has up his sleeve, but I wish I knew. Kind of disappointing me right now.
The Wings weren't looking to make any big signings this year - Holland said as much. The Wings big signings were Zetterberg and Franzen.
The Wings haven't lost much - Hossa was a 1 year signing, Kopecky was dumb enough to take himself out of the lineup by instigating a stupid fight, and Conklin was a short-term backup after Hasek left. They'll easily contend next year, especially if Helm gets a full season in the bigs...and I'm interested in seeing if Leino can produce in a full season.
The Wings weren't looking to make any big signings this year - Holland said as much. The Wings big signings were Zetterberg and Franzen.
The Wings haven't lost much - Hossa was a 1 year signing, Kopecky was dumb enough to take himself out of the lineup by instigating a stupid fight, and Conklin was a short-term backup after Hasek left. They'll easily contend next year, especially if Helm gets a full season in the bigs...and I'm interested in seeing if Leino can produce in a full season.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 04:59:41 PM |
manwithdaplan: this is pure crap. 11 out of his 13 seasons save pct over 900, great GAA. He needs to show JDD in Edmonton how to play, so if he makes it 60 games, that is perfect.
He hasn't started 60 games since 2002-2003... and only managed that 4 times in his career.
And it's not pure crap that's he a contract player - look at his final year in Phoenix compared to the rest of those. Look at his final year in Chicago, compared to the rest of those. His final year in TB is similar as well - (2001-2002 is the only time he had a comparable year to a contract year with a team)
He hasn't started 60 games since 2002-2003... and only managed that 4 times in his career.
And it's not pure crap that's he a contract player - look at his final year in Phoenix compared to the rest of those. Look at his final year in Chicago, compared to the rest of those. His final year in TB is similar as well - (2001-2002 is the only time he had a comparable year to a contract year with a team)
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 05:01:13 PM |
Caeldan: epyonyx: Wings aren't looking to win the Cup next year it seems. I wonder if they are looking to rebuild (what? not sure), re-organize the players (more likely), or they just have been uber-capped (and I am not seeing it). Their RW position is really going to weaken unless they sign someone. Not sure what Holland is thinking or has up his sleeve, but I wish I knew. Kind of disappointing me right now.
Don't the Wings have a few kids ready to break into the lineup this year? I mean they've got guys like Helm who have played more playoff than regular season games over 2 years...
I would still like them to sign at least one or two to reinforce the position.
On a side note Khabi is going to the Oilers. Are they going to make the playoffs?
Don't the Wings have a few kids ready to break into the lineup this year? I mean they've got guys like Helm who have played more playoff than regular season games over 2 years...
I would still like them to sign at least one or two to reinforce the position.
On a side note Khabi is going to the Oilers. Are they going to make the playoffs?
| Winterstar | 2009-07-01 05:02:50 PM |
epyonyx: Caeldan: epyonyx: Wings aren't looking to win the Cup next year it seems. I wonder if they are looking to rebuild (what? not sure), re-organize the players (more likely), or they just have been uber-capped (and I am not seeing it). Their RW position is really going to weaken unless they sign someone. Not sure what Holland is thinking or has up his sleeve, but I wish I knew. Kind of disappointing me right now.
Don't the Wings have a few kids ready to break into the lineup this year? I mean they've got guys like Helm who have played more playoff than regular season games over 2 years...
I would still like them to sign at least one or two to reinforce the position.
On a side note Khabi is going to the Oilers. Are they going to make the playoffs?
Give me Helm, Leino, and Abdelkader over an overpriced free agent any day.
Don't the Wings have a few kids ready to break into the lineup this year? I mean they've got guys like Helm who have played more playoff than regular season games over 2 years...
I would still like them to sign at least one or two to reinforce the position.
On a side note Khabi is going to the Oilers. Are they going to make the playoffs?
Give me Helm, Leino, and Abdelkader over an overpriced free agent any day.
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 05:04:32 PM |
Winterstar: epyonyx: Caeldan: epyonyx: Wings aren't looking to win the Cup next year it seems. I wonder if they are looking to rebuild (what? not sure), re-organize the players (more likely), or they just have been uber-capped (and I am not seeing it). Their RW position is really going to weaken unless they sign someone. Not sure what Holland is thinking or has up his sleeve, but I wish I knew. Kind of disappointing me right now.
Don't the Wings have a few kids ready to break into the lineup this year? I mean they've got guys like Helm who have played more playoff than regular season games over 2 years...
I would still like them to sign at least one or two to reinforce the position.
On a side note Khabi is going to the Oilers. Are they going to make the playoffs?
Give me Helm, Leino, and Abdelkader over an overpriced free agent any day.
They don't necessarily need a big name player, but just a solid back up RW. I am interested in Abdelkader (why did they not leave him in the Finals?). Leino seems solid. Anyone got a link to his stats for this past year?
Don't the Wings have a few kids ready to break into the lineup this year? I mean they've got guys like Helm who have played more playoff than regular season games over 2 years...
I would still like them to sign at least one or two to reinforce the position.
On a side note Khabi is going to the Oilers. Are they going to make the playoffs?
Give me Helm, Leino, and Abdelkader over an overpriced free agent any day.
They don't necessarily need a big name player, but just a solid back up RW. I am interested in Abdelkader (why did they not leave him in the Finals?). Leino seems solid. Anyone got a link to his stats for this past year?
| DalaiLamaDingDong | 2009-07-01 05:05:27 PM |
epyonyx: On a side note Khabi is going to the Oilers. Are they going to make the playoffs?
For all that is good and holy, I goddamn farking hope so.
For all that is good and holy, I goddamn farking hope so.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 05:05:48 PM |
epyonyx: They don't necessarily need a big name player, but just a solid back up RW. I am interested in Abdelkader (why did they not leave him in the Finals?). Leino seems solid. Anyone got a link to his stats for this past year?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=3945
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=3945
| Drakin020 | 2009-07-01 05:06:40 PM |
Sorry, lisdexyx.
They traded Habbybullen (Spelling I know....) to the oilers.
They traded Habbybullen (Spelling I know....) to the oilers.
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 05:06:51 PM |
Caeldan: epyonyx: They don't necessarily need a big name player, but just a solid back up RW. I am interested in Abdelkader (why did they not leave him in the Finals?). Leino seems solid. Anyone got a link to his stats for this past year?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=3945
Thanks!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=3945
Thanks!
| DalaiLamaDingDong | 2009-07-01 05:08:21 PM |
Drakin020: They traded Habbybullen (Spelling I know....) to the oilers.
They didn't trade.
DOUBLE FAIL
/made the same mistake
They didn't trade.
DOUBLE FAIL
/made the same mistake
| speedk0re | 2009-07-01 05:08:43 PM |
Rupp traded to Pittsburgh; at least the Devils fans now share in my pain of losing their best enforcer
| speedk0re | 2009-07-01 05:09:32 PM |
well, not traded... you know what i mean...
| Edgewood Dirk | 2009-07-01 05:13:15 PM |
DalaiLamaDingDong: epyonyx: On a side note Khabi is going to the Oilers. Are they going to make the playoffs?
For all that is good and holy, I goddamn farking hope so.
Oilers vs Flames in the playoffs? Farking fantastic, and I don't care who wins, as long as it isn't the Oilers
For all that is good and holy, I goddamn farking hope so.
Oilers vs Flames in the playoffs? Farking fantastic, and I don't care who wins, as long as it isn't the Oilers
| Winterstar | 2009-07-01 05:13:51 PM |
epyonyx: They don't necessarily need a big name player, but just a solid back up RW. I am interested in Abdelkader (why did they not leave him in the Finals?). Leino seems solid. Anyone got a link to his stats for this past year?
I wouldn't mind seeing a 3rd or 4th line RW - Maxim Afinogenov? Scotty Upshall?
I wouldn't mind seeing a 3rd or 4th line RW - Maxim Afinogenov? Scotty Upshall?
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 05:16:01 PM |
Winterstar: epyonyx: They don't necessarily need a big name player, but just a solid back up RW. I am interested in Abdelkader (why did they not leave him in the Finals?). Leino seems solid. Anyone got a link to his stats for this past year?
I wouldn't mind seeing a 3rd or 4th line RW - Maxim Afinogenov? Scotty Upshall?
I think we're on the same page. We don't need a star player, just an overall solid player who can hold his own.
I wouldn't mind seeing a 3rd or 4th line RW - Maxim Afinogenov? Scotty Upshall?
I think we're on the same page. We don't need a star player, just an overall solid player who can hold his own.
| DalaiLamaDingDong | 2009-07-01 05:19:20 PM |
Edgewood Dirk: DalaiLamaDingDong: epyonyx: On a side note Khabi is going to the Oilers. Are they going to make the playoffs?
For all that is good and holy, I goddamn farking hope so.
Oilers vs Flames in the playoffs? Farking fantastic, and I don't care who wins, as long as it isn't the Oilers
Now I don't feel bad cheering for the Blackhawks this past playoffs.
Go OIL!
For all that is good and holy, I goddamn farking hope so.
Oilers vs Flames in the playoffs? Farking fantastic, and I don't care who wins, as long as it isn't the Oilers
Now I don't feel bad cheering for the Blackhawks this past playoffs.
Go OIL!
| Winterstar | 2009-07-01 05:20:05 PM |
epyonyx: I think we're on the same page. We don't need a star player, just an overall solid player who can hold his own.
Give me a guy who can check and who plays at a +5 or so, and I'll be happy.
Hell, I'm already happy because we're keeping Hank and The Franz.
Give me a guy who can check and who plays at a +5 or so, and I'll be happy.
Hell, I'm already happy because we're keeping Hank and The Franz.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 05:25:41 PM |
Sounding like Sportsnet is reporting a big signing to Montreal (Havlat or Cammy though?)
from Daren Millard's twitter:
we are breaking it.. hockeycentral 5 year deal.. money is at sportsnet.ca!!!!!! montreal gets a big fish...
from Daren Millard's twitter:
we are breaking it.. hockeycentral 5 year deal.. money is at sportsnet.ca!!!!!! montreal gets a big fish...
| Winterstar | 2009-07-01 05:26:53 PM |
Twitter will be the downfall of Western society...
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 05:26:56 PM |
Confirmed to be Camalleri to Montreal, 5 years ~6M per
| Winterstar | 2009-07-01 05:27:35 PM |
It'd be fun to see the Wings get Havlat...but I know that's not going to happen.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 05:28:20 PM |
Caeldan: Confirmed to be Camalleri to Montreal, 5 years ~6M per
Holy shiat the Canadiens are spending money like a drunken sailor on shore leave.
Holy shiat the Canadiens are spending money like a drunken sailor on shore leave.
| Winterstar | 2009-07-01 05:32:13 PM |
jekostas: Caeldan: Confirmed to be Camalleri to Montreal, 5 years ~6M per
Holy shiat the Canadiens are spending money like a drunken sailor on shore leave.
They were purchased by Molson...
Holy shiat the Canadiens are spending money like a drunken sailor on shore leave.
They were purchased by Molson...
| legion_of_doo | 2009-07-01 05:35:46 PM |
Winterstar: It'd be fun to see the Wings get Havlat...but I know that's not going to happen.
Not interested in the Wings getting Havlat.
He seems like a good player when he's able to play & motivated.
I'd rather the younger players get a chance because they earned their shot... not because Marty is injured again.
Not interested in the Wings getting Havlat.
He seems like a good player when he's able to play & motivated.
I'd rather the younger players get a chance because they earned their shot... not because Marty is injured again.
| Quadraton
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2009-07-01 05:38:54 PM |
They're reporting Kubina (TOR) for Exelby (ATL) plus some extras.
That doesn't make sense. Trade a player that got 40 points for a player that got 7 points last season. There's got to be more to this deal than just that.
That doesn't make sense. Trade a player that got 40 points for a player that got 7 points last season. There's got to be more to this deal than just that.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 05:39:14 PM |
Kubina to Atlanta, Exelby? to Toronto?
Gotta be more than that.
Gotta be more than that.
| Foaming
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2009-07-01 05:40:39 PM |
Habs sign Squid
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 05:44:26 PM |
epyonyx: They don't necessarily need a big name player, but just a solid back up RW. I am interested in Abdelkader (why did they not leave him in the Finals?). Leino seems solid. Anyone got a link to his stats for this past year?
Leino isn't signed, but from what I've read he wants to stay in Detroit.
Abdelkader had the flu in the finals and then fell victim to Babcock's refusal to change the lineup. I've heard in a few places he might go back down to the minors...which seems like a huge waste of talent.
Leino isn't signed, but from what I've read he wants to stay in Detroit.
Abdelkader had the flu in the finals and then fell victim to Babcock's refusal to change the lineup. I've heard in a few places he might go back down to the minors...which seems like a huge waste of talent.
| Winterstar | 2009-07-01 05:45:20 PM |
IMDWalrus: Leino isn't signed, but from what I've read he wants to stay in Detroit.
Leino's an RFA and the Wings have made a qualifying offer
Leino's an RFA and the Wings have made a qualifying offer
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 05:47:29 PM |
IMDWalrus: epyonyx: They don't necessarily need a big name player, but just a solid back up RW. I am interested in Abdelkader (why did they not leave him in the Finals?). Leino seems solid. Anyone got a link to his stats for this past year?
Leino isn't signed, but from what I've read he wants to stay in Detroit.
Abdelkader had the flu in the finals and then fell victim to Babcock's refusal to change the lineup. I've heard in a few places he might go back down to the minors...which seems like a huge waste of talent.
I hope Leino signs soon. Didn't know about Abdelkader. I hope he doesn't go back to the minors. Hopefully Babcock sees his potential. At least let him play like 20-30 games this season.
Leino isn't signed, but from what I've read he wants to stay in Detroit.
Abdelkader had the flu in the finals and then fell victim to Babcock's refusal to change the lineup. I've heard in a few places he might go back down to the minors...which seems like a huge waste of talent.
I hope Leino signs soon. Didn't know about Abdelkader. I hope he doesn't go back to the minors. Hopefully Babcock sees his potential. At least let him play like 20-30 games this season.
| KeeperX | 2009-07-01 05:48:45 PM |
I want Frenchy Beauchemin and Wisniewski to both re-sign in Anaheim.
| illuminaeti | 2009-07-01 05:57:01 PM |
Komisarek goes to Toronto
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 05:57:11 PM |
Beauchemin's apparently getting offers >4M currently from some teams... so be interested to see where he goes.
Komisarek to Toronto it seems
Komisarek to Toronto it seems
| Patterson | 2009-07-01 05:58:39 PM |
Judas Komisarek to the Leafs.
Expect booing. Lots of booing.
Expect booing. Lots of booing.
| Brokenseas | 2009-07-01 06:00:48 PM |
Bad news for the Flames that the Bulin Wall signed for the Oilers. For whatever reason, they just can't beat that guy. If that continues into next season, it's going to be a dogfight in the west for the playoffs.
Good news for the Flames that they signed Boumeester though. Their defense on paper is scary-good, especially with Sutter coming in as coach. Phaneuf is going to have a monster career playing with his structured defense.
Chicago fans: don't worry so much about the salary cap. I'm sure their number crunchers have everything planned out so they don't have to get rid of Kane or Toews. (If I'm wrong, they are dumber than dumb though).
Good news for the Flames that they signed Boumeester though. Their defense on paper is scary-good, especially with Sutter coming in as coach. Phaneuf is going to have a monster career playing with his structured defense.
Chicago fans: don't worry so much about the salary cap. I'm sure their number crunchers have everything planned out so they don't have to get rid of Kane or Toews. (If I'm wrong, they are dumber than dumb though).
| illuminaeti | 2009-07-01 06:07:10 PM |
Bégin goes to Boston
| swahnhennessy | 2009-07-01 06:10:53 PM |
Montreal fans are busy shoving Komi under a bus and Leafs fans suddenly have nothing but good things to say about the guy. It's like Bizarro Land. Gotta love homers in situations like these.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 06:28:32 PM |
Sullivan stays in Nashville for a bit longer, 2 years at 3.75M per...
Pahlsson (3yr, 2.65M per) to Columbus to replace Malhotra who is currently out testing the waters.
Pahlsson (3yr, 2.65M per) to Columbus to replace Malhotra who is currently out testing the waters.
| NotEric | 2009-07-01 06:31:59 PM |
Cammalleri in Montreal. Must be because they already have booster seats installed in the team plane.
Kings have done...nothing so far. Again.
Sigh.
Kings have done...nothing so far. Again.
Sigh.
| Foaming
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2009-07-01 06:38:36 PM |
NotEric: Kings have done...nothing so far. Again.
Sigh.
Yep. All that cap space to play with and they just haven't gotten anything done.
Sigh.
Yep. All that cap space to play with and they just haven't gotten anything done.
| flecktarts | 2009-07-01 06:38:43 PM |
getting late and still no word on the heatley-to-the-oil debacle.
hoping bobby scuds decides to keep his prodigious goaltending skills in the 412...
hoping bobby scuds decides to keep his prodigious goaltending skills in the 412...
| NotEric | 2009-07-01 06:44:36 PM |
I hold out hope that Gaborik still hasn't signed. Michael Handzus better be on the phone with him right now telling him about the weather down here.
All the cap space in the world doesn't help you if no one wants to come.
All the cap space in the world doesn't help you if no one wants to come.
| Caeldan | 2009-07-01 06:47:28 PM |
flecktarts: getting late and still no word on the heatley-to-the-oil debacle.
hoping bobby scuds decides to keep his prodigious goaltending skills in the 412...
Last update from TSN was that Heatley had the gall to say that he wasn't going to be pressured by Ottawa into a decision and that he felt like he had a gun to his head to make it, and so he was just going to take his time and make it in his own time.
hoping bobby scuds decides to keep his prodigious goaltending skills in the 412...
Last update from TSN was that Heatley had the gall to say that he wasn't going to be pressured by Ottawa into a decision and that he felt like he had a gun to his head to make it, and so he was just going to take his time and make it in his own time.
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 06:47:45 PM |
The Wild snagged Greg Zanon...well, our depth chart is set.
| IMDWalrus
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2009-07-01 07:33:30 PM |
Jul 1, 7:26PM Garon, Mathieu From Pittsburgh To Columbus $2.4M 2 years
Which raises the question...why?
Which raises the question...why?
| legion_of_doo | 2009-07-01 07:40:41 PM |
Whatever Komi would have got to stay with the Habs, it would be too much for a player of his heritage & skill level.
/Whatever Komi signed for to play for Toronto, it would not be enough to be playing for Toronto.
/Whatever Komi signed for to play for Toronto, it would not be enough to be playing for Toronto.
| Winterstar | 2009-07-01 07:41:00 PM |
IMDWalrus: Jul 1, 7:26PM Garon, Mathieu From Pittsburgh To Columbus $2.4M 2 years
Which raises the question...why?
To give Mason a break now and then?
Which raises the question...why?
To give Mason a break now and then?
| speedk0re | 2009-07-01 08:21:24 PM |
Gaborik to the Rangers!!!!! Brashear signing almost forgiven now
| NotEric | 2009-07-01 08:29:19 PM |
On the plus side, the Kings potentially have up to 6 chances to blow out LaBarbera in Phoenix...
Here's to hoping for Taylor Hall next draft!
Here's to hoping for Taylor Hall next draft!
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 08:32:52 PM |
Gaborik to the Ranger, 5 years, 7.5M per year. I guess they're out of the running for Heatley
| DalaiLamaDingDong | 2009-07-01 08:39:54 PM |
jekostas: Gaborik to the Ranger, 5 years, 7.5M per year. I guess they're out of the running for Heatley
So...does that mean Edmonton still has a chance?
So...does that mean Edmonton still has a chance?
| Flappyhead | 2009-07-01 08:42:28 PM |
Why is it every time Slats looks like he's finally getting his head screwed on straight he goes and farks the Rangers up even more?
| nerrard | 2009-07-01 08:46:54 PM |
Chris Neil re-ups in Ottawa.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 08:47:22 PM |
DalaiLamaDingDong: jekostas: Gaborik to the Ranger, 5 years, 7.5M per year. I guess they're out of the running for Heatley
So...does that mean Edmonton still has a chance?
Oh, well, that's reaching a wee bit.
Flappyhead: Why is it every time Slats looks like he's finally getting his head screwed on straight he goes and farks the Rangers up even more?
At least he didn't trade Dubinsky/Callahan/Staal for Heatley
So...does that mean Edmonton still has a chance?
Oh, well, that's reaching a wee bit.
Flappyhead: Why is it every time Slats looks like he's finally getting his head screwed on straight he goes and farks the Rangers up even more?
At least he didn't trade Dubinsky/Callahan/Staal for Heatley
| NotEric | 2009-07-01 08:49:22 PM |
If Gionta sits on Cammalleri's shoulders they might be tall enough to ride Splash Mountain next time they're in Anaheim.
| nerrard | 2009-07-01 08:51:35 PM |
Did Gionta play on a line with Gomez in NJ? I can't remember, but it would make sense that's why Gainey went after them both...
| swahnhennessy | 2009-07-01 08:51:45 PM |
OMG! The Rangers signed a high-priced player that has the potential to disappoint? Get out of here!
You'd think Sather would have learned by now. A few years ago I thought he had. Not that Gaborik is guaranteed to bust - the guy has more talent and skill than most of the league. But can he ever stay healthy long enough to put it all together? That contract assumes so.
You'd think Sather would have learned by now. A few years ago I thought he had. Not that Gaborik is guaranteed to bust - the guy has more talent and skill than most of the league. But can he ever stay healthy long enough to put it all together? That contract assumes so.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 08:54:58 PM |
Where in the hell are the Canadiens getting all this money? Also, how drunk is Gainey?
5m/year for Gionta?
5m/year for Gionta?
| Quadraton
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2009-07-01 08:55:39 PM |
$20 says Gaborik tears his groin by mid-December, and sits out for the remainder of the season.
On the bright side, it will be nice watching Gaborik play in the Eastern Conference. I barely get a chance to see him play.
On the bright side, it will be nice watching Gaborik play in the Eastern Conference. I barely get a chance to see him play.
| NotEric | 2009-07-01 09:01:32 PM |
"He'll play 80 games and score 35 goals... total over the life of the contract"
Best quote I've seen about Gaborik so far.
I thought he had a chance to recover with the surgery he got, but the Rangers signing him means he's doomed.
Best quote I've seen about Gaborik so far.
I thought he had a chance to recover with the surgery he got, but the Rangers signing him means he's doomed.
| FreakinB | 2009-07-01 09:07:02 PM |
On the one hand, I'm pissed because the Rangers got one of the two guys on the "Guys the Isles should have picked in the 2000 Draft instead of trading Luongo and taking The Rick" list, and they didn't even have to trade Staal, Dubinsky, etc. to do it.
On the other hand, dude's a risk.
On the other hand, dude's a risk.
| Flappyhead | 2009-07-01 09:09:16 PM |
| godofusa.com | 2009-07-01 09:14:05 PM |
nerrard: Did Gionta play on a line with Gomez in NJ? I can't remember, but it would make sense that's why Gainey went after them both...
Gomez is the reason Gionta scored 48 that year...
Gomez is the reason Gionta scored 48 that year...
| swahnhennessy | 2009-07-01 09:15:14 PM |
Chicago replaces Påhlsson with Madden. Didn't skip a beat, and Madden may be better for them than the Swede was, who disappointed.
| spqr_ca
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2009-07-01 09:18:51 PM |
Patterson: Judas Komisarek to the Leafs.
Expect booing. Lots of booing.
Montreal fans can be comforted by the Hal Gill signing...
Expect booing. Lots of booing.
Montreal fans can be comforted by the Hal Gill signing...
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 09:21:04 PM |
swahnhennessy: Chicago replaces Påhlsson with Madden. Didn't skip a beat, and Madden may be better for them than the Swede was, who disappointed.
Madden's getting up there in age. I agree he's still one of the best checking centres in the league but for how much longer?
Madden's getting up there in age. I agree he's still one of the best checking centres in the league but for how much longer?
| spqr_ca
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2009-07-01 09:22:46 PM |
Chicago is busy, they just grabbed Madden.
| spqr_ca
|
2009-07-01 09:24:29 PM |
nerrard: Chris Neil re-ups in Ottawa.
I was hoping Toronto would get him, but I'm not surprised he re-signed in Ottawa if they came close to the other offers.
I was hoping Toronto would get him, but I'm not surprised he re-signed in Ottawa if they came close to the other offers.
| palexc | 2009-07-01 09:25:07 PM |
$7.5 per for 5 years for an injury prone Gaborik? Goddamnit. Goddamnit so much. Though, this is an improvement for Slats. At least we didn't trade away Duby or Callahan. Still...goddamnit.
So who's rooting for the Montreal Devils next year?
So who's rooting for the Montreal Devils next year?
| epyonyx | 2009-07-01 09:33:18 PM |
I think Montreal and Chicago are looking to make a solid run for the Cup this next season. I could live with a Hawks-Habs Final.
/Go Wings!
/Go Wings!
| palexc | 2009-07-01 09:47:14 PM |
So Gainey has Gionta/Gomez for about the same price as the Sedins. Not bad sir, not bad at all.
| desertgeek | 2009-07-01 09:51:25 PM |
NotEric: On the plus side, the Kings potentially have up to 6 chances to blow out LaBarbera in Phoenix...
Here's to hoping for Taylor Hall next draft!
Uhhh...maybe if Bryzgalov gets hurt. I think LaBarbera falls to #3 in the Coyotes goalie depth chart behind Al Montoya.
As expected, Phoenix isn't doing much but I think they just need to resign Upshall and a couple others and it will be fine.
Here's to hoping for Taylor Hall next draft!
Uhhh...maybe if Bryzgalov gets hurt. I think LaBarbera falls to #3 in the Coyotes goalie depth chart behind Al Montoya.
As expected, Phoenix isn't doing much but I think they just need to resign Upshall and a couple others and it will be fine.
| palexc | 2009-07-01 09:54:56 PM |
desertgeek: Uhhh...maybe if Bryzgalov gets hurt. I think LaBarbera falls to #3 in the Coyotes goalie depth chart behind Al Montoya.
Both former Rangers goaltenders.
Montoya is too good to be playing in Phoenix. He will be a badass goaltender someday. The reason he didn't get moved up to the NHL sooner was because of Lundqvist.
Both former Rangers goaltenders.
Montoya is too good to be playing in Phoenix. He will be a badass goaltender someday. The reason he didn't get moved up to the NHL sooner was because of Lundqvist.
| NotEric | 2009-07-01 09:57:21 PM |
By potentially I mean if Phoenix decides to send their backup goalies at LA since the Kings are truly pathetic on the offensive end.
| jekostas | 2009-07-01 10:04:19 PM |
palexc: So Gainey has Gionta/Gomez for about the same price as the Sedins. Not bad sir, not bad at all.
What are you smoking that you think Gionta/Gomez are as good as the Sedins?
Since lockout
Scott Gomez - Avg. 68 points/year, missed 16 games
Brian Gionta - Avg. 61.75 points/year, missed 21 games
Daniel Sedin - Avg. 77.75 points/year, missed 1 game
Henrik Sedin - Avg. 76 points/year, missed 0 games
What are you smoking that you think Gionta/Gomez are as good as the Sedins?
Since lockout
Scott Gomez - Avg. 68 points/year, missed 16 games
Brian Gionta - Avg. 61.75 points/year, missed 21 games
Daniel Sedin - Avg. 77.75 points/year, missed 1 game
Henrik Sedin - Avg. 76 points/year, missed 0 games
| a4dzac
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2009-07-01 10:04:31 PM |
Star Tribune Sources: Wild close to signing Havlat
According to multiple NHL sources, the Wild is close to signing dynamic free-agent winger Martin Havlat.
Havlat, 28, scored a career-high 77 points last season with Chicago in 81 games. It's unclear as to whether this gets done tonight or in the wee hours of the morning, but barring some sort of breakdown, I have been told by impeccable sources that Havlat has cut his list to one team - and that's Minnesota.
According to sources, the Wild also continues to be in negotiations with free-agent center Saku Koivu, although it's unclear how close that is. Because of the time in Finland, it could go into tomorrow.
The Wild and Havlat's agent have been working on this contract for hours.
According to multiple NHL sources, the Wild is close to signing dynamic free-agent winger Martin Havlat.
Havlat, 28, scored a career-high 77 points last season with Chicago in 81 games. It's unclear as to whether this gets done tonight or in the wee hours of the morning, but barring some sort of breakdown, I have been told by impeccable sources that Havlat has cut his list to one team - and that's Minnesota.
According to sources, the Wild also continues to be in negotiations with free-agent center Saku Koivu, although it's unclear how close that is. Because of the time in Finland, it could go into tomorrow.
The Wild and Havlat's agent have been working on this contract for hours.
| jekostas | 2009-07-02 12:29:56 AM |
Heatley didn't waive his no-movement. Refused to go to the Oilers.
This'll make him popular, yes?
This'll make him popular, yes?
| vegaswench
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2009-07-02 01:27:14 AM |
jekostas: Heatley didn't waive his no-movement. Refused to go to the Oilers.
This'll make him popular, yes?
His loss. Bastard.
So sorry to see Roli go. He is a class act and I love the guy.
This'll make him popular, yes?
His loss. Bastard.
So sorry to see Roli go. He is a class act and I love the guy.
| danwinkler | 2009-07-02 01:32:02 AM |
I read somewhere that the Wings lost Samuelsson, but TSN isnt showing him as signing with anyone. Has anyone heard about that? I know a lot of Wings fans didn't care for Sammy, but I thought he was a helluva 3rd line winger.
| jekostas | 2009-07-02 01:53:02 AM |
vegaswench: jekostas: Heatley didn't waive his no-movement. Refused to go to the Oilers.
This'll make him popular, yes?
His loss. Bastard.
So sorry to see Roli go. He is a class act and I love the guy.
Eh, the Oilers got a younger guy with a ring for relatively cheap.
This'll make him popular, yes?
His loss. Bastard.
So sorry to see Roli go. He is a class act and I love the guy.
Eh, the Oilers got a younger guy with a ring for relatively cheap.
| vegaswench
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2009-07-02 02:23:49 AM |
jekostas: Eh, the Oilers got a younger guy with a ring for relatively cheap.
Not younger by much, though.
Not younger by much, though.
| desertgeek | 2009-07-02 02:46:32 AM |
palexc:
Montoya is too good to be playing in Phoenix. He will be a badass goaltender someday. The reason he didn't get moved up to the NHL sooner was because of Lundqvist.
Well, he is here, but I agree that he is very good. I was at his 2nd career NHL game and he made some killer stops against the Kings that night.
Bryz will be the #1 goalie come October, but he won't have to play 70 games this season with such a capable backup. If I'm the Coyotes GM, I'm trying to lock Montoya up to a long term deal as our future #1 as soon as the new ownership is made official.
Montoya is too good to be playing in Phoenix. He will be a badass goaltender someday. The reason he didn't get moved up to the NHL sooner was because of Lundqvist.
Well, he is here, but I agree that he is very good. I was at his 2nd career NHL game and he made some killer stops against the Kings that night.
Bryz will be the #1 goalie come October, but he won't have to play 70 games this season with such a capable backup. If I'm the Coyotes GM, I'm trying to lock Montoya up to a long term deal as our future #1 as soon as the new ownership is made official.
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