Richard Pye: Absolutely. You should have elected McCain. This Iran issue would have been resolved a lot more quickly and for the better of everyone involved with McCain at the helm.

McCain sucks almost as badly as the Messiah.

perryjay: qatwa: When the executions come they will be very public, there will be forced confessions first to spread terror #iranelection #iranelection

They've already started with the forced confessions...

Ed Grubermann: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Iranians are killing each other. Is that really a problem?

Are you trying to be an asshole, or can you not help it?

There's a reason we supplied both sides with arms in the Iran-Iraq war.

Mztlplx: perryjay: qatwa: When the executions come they will be very public, there will be forced confessions first to spread terror #iranelection #iranelection

They've already started with the forced confessions...

Have you seen anything beyond the tweets from CFI? Just curious.

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Messiah.

You do realize using that word makes sound like any other agenda driven blowhard who will say up when Obama says down just for the sake of being contrary? Stop listening to O'Reilly, Rush and Levine.

Ok, this was amusing: link (new window), from Gawker (new window).

Secret Master of All Flatulence: Iranians are killing each other. Is that really a problem?

Yes, it is. What's not a problem is adding you to my ignore list. Farker.

From Iran's gov't news: Iran's Police Chief says the mysterious death of Neda Aqa-Soltan, who became a symbol of post-election street rallies in Iran, was a 'prearranged scenario'. [...]

Esmaeil Ahmadi-Moqadam, commander of the Iranian Police, said Wednesday that the unfortunate incident --which has been hyped and dramatized by Western media outlets--, was in fact a 'premeditated act of murder'.

The Iranian police chief said Arash Hejazi, a doctor who claims he tried to save Neda's life in her final moments, has fanned the flames of the western media hype.

Ahmadi-Moqadam said the Iranian Intelligence Ministry is making every effort to discover the whereabouts of Hejazi. "He has fled the country and is working against the Iranian government abroad."

(copypasta from today nico pitney
Link (new window)

Farker T: [loud noises cheering evil].

gulogulo: CaesarSneezy:
What was that really annoying guy in the first Iran threads? i>

Let us avoid calling farkers out...

wolvernova: Secret Master of All Flatulence: Iranians are killing each other. Is that really a problem?

Yes, it is. What's not a problem is adding you to my ignore list. Farker.


Hey, to each his own. Personally, I'm amused by the fact that the Iranian people are trying to demonstrate that the best way to deal with a dictator is to all get together and run head-first into a brick wall, secure in the knowledge that if enough of them do it, the wall might eventually fall down.

Can we start referring to the hanged people as "Iranian windchimes" now?

The Jerusalem Post said it so it must be true!

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw 6 demonstrators pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious. #IranSimone

KellyX: rastjr: gulogulo: rastjr: wyrlss: Tatsuma: rastjr: brainwashed by the conservative media.

seriously people, do you not realize he's a trolling alt?

Really? I don't see it. Sounds like a perfectly reasonable member of FARK to me.

Thanks for your support.

That wasn't actually a compliment. Seriously, if you aren't a troll (and that's a big IF), you have to provide actual data and sources to back your claims. Your answers, thus far, have been sanctimonious and vague proclamations of truth, none of which you have been able or willing to verify as true when asked.

Fark is a great place for conversations, even when they get snarky. Having the conversation is important, but at some point there has to be substance behind it.

/still thinks it matters where you are from before you tell people not in your situation what they can and cannot have to defend themselves.

If it wansn't a compliment than by that logic everyone on Fark is a troll.

HAHAHAHAHA

If it makes you feel good making fun of that little retarded kid, than I feel sorry for your soul.

You've added nothing to the discussion.

Tatsuma: Farker T: Reserve your words for your own mouth, Tatsuma.

I posted and article yesterday (pops) that showed very clearly where Bernard-Henri Levy's HEART is, and it isn't in France.

IMO, you both share the SAME agenda, and your "concern" for Iran is limited to how it can serve your mutual Zionist goals.

Have a nice day.

You said that he wasn't French due to where you think his loyalty lies.

I said that he's about as "French" as you are an "American". Thanks for confirming where YOUR loyalties lie - as if it were necessary.

I feel honored that you put me and BHL as having the same agenda, as the man is a world-class intellectual.

Sharing an pernicious Zionist agenda does not imply a similar level of intellect, Tatsuma.

I feel much better about sharing the same agenda as him, as I would with David Duke, were I in your shoes.

There you go again. Where have I ever mentioned David Duke???

You, on the other hand, are fond of quoting Bolshevist slogans in your promotion of "The Revolution".

Tell us Tatsi, do you celebrate the 60 million deaths caused by your Bolshevist heroes?

Zionist causes is Zionist causes, right?

Oh christonamutherfarking CRUTCH. The trolls are here in force.

Can we please keep to the freaking topic of the thread? Stop calling others out, and for the love of little green apples, ENOUGH with the threadjacking!

Farker T: I said that he's [Bernhard Levy] about as "French" as you are an "American".


THIS.

This reminds me of the story before the first Gulf War in which a Kuwati girl said she was volunteering at a hospital and saw Iraqi solders come in and take babies out of incubators and leave them on the floor to die. Of course the US Media latched on to this and spread the story without any evidence that this was the case. It turned out to be totally fabricated.

I'm not saying that this particular story is fabricated, but there definitely seems to be a lack of verifiable facts.

When the Media of a country start spreading stories about how inhuman and monstrous their enemies are, then the story is worth a second look and should be held in suspicion.

Farker T: Tatsuma: Farker T: Reserve your words for your own mouth, Tatsuma.

I posted and article yesterday (pops) that showed very clearly where Bernard-Henri Levy's HEART is, and it isn't in France.

IMO, you both share the SAME agenda, and your "concern" for Iran is limited to how it can serve your mutual Zionist goals.

Have a nice day.

You said that he wasn't French due to where you think his loyalty lies.

I said that he's about as "French" as you are an "American". Thanks for confirming where YOUR loyalties lie - as if it were necessary.

I feel honored that you put me and BHL as having the same agenda, as the man is a world-class intellectual.

Sharing an pernicious Zionist agenda does not imply a similar level of intellect, Tatsuma.

I feel much better about sharing the same agenda as him, as I would with David Duke, were I in your shoes.

There you go again. Where have I ever mentioned David Duke???

You, on the other hand, are fond of quoting Bolshevist slogans in your promotion of "The Revolution".

Tell us Tatsi, do you celebrate the 60 million deaths caused by your Bolshevist heroes?

Zionist causes is Zionist causes, right?

I think tats is canadian eh. :P

CountDeMoney

I've heard the rumors in these threads. Can't confirm, but there's been accusations in the media by human rights orgs...

Ian Human Rights (new window)

Human Rights Watch (new window)

there's more, but I won't go tl;dr.

Lagaidh: Take heed folks. rastajr is showing you all how it's done. He got some fairly intelligent folks to bite. Then when he had them in a lather, he purposefully tried to be a tad more obnoxious in what I think was a "here I am, a troll" style. People continued to bite.

Good stuff. One of the better I've seen.

I just wonder how many Fark logins he's gone through to reach this point. There's a familiar ring in the style even if it is now polished.

/clap

Just so everyone thinks that he is right. He isn't. I have had no other Fark login or alt or whatever you guys call it.

The familiar ring you hear is the truth ringing in my words.

Mztlplx: CountDeMoney

I've heard the rumors in these threads. Can't confirm, but there's been accusations in the media by human rights orgs...

Ian Human Rights (new window)

Human Rights Watch (new window)

there's more, but I won't go tl;dr.

THanks for the updates...

/so many little minds cheering on the evil that is the Iranian govt.
//with each rant, each dies a little bit more.
//fun to watch the willing bootlickers self-destruct.

Joe Blowme: I think tats is canadian eh. :P

Don't insult me!

Farker T: I said that he's about as "French" as you are an "American". Thanks for confirming where YOUR loyalties lie - as if it were necessary.

"Jews are dual loyalty citizens!" I wonder where I've heard that before

Farker T: Tell us Tatsi, do you celebrate the 60 million deaths caused by your Bolshevist heroes?

Zionist causes is Zionist causes, right?

Oh and now Zionism = Bolshevism. You really are rocking it like it's 1943 aren't you.

Joe Blowme: I think tats is canadian eh. :P


Canadians are American too. I learned that the hard way, from a smartass Canadian border agent, who asked my brother in law what country he was from as we were going back into Detroit from Windsor. "America", he replied. "I'm from America too, said the guard". The border dude asked again, same answer, about twenty times in a row. It was farking hilarious.

/would have been even funnier if I had been sitting on a bunch of Cuban cigars
//but that was somebody else
///I swear

Tatsuma: "Jews are dual loyalty citizens!" I wonder where I've heard that before


Jews != Zionist warmongers !!!



Not all "Christians" are Neo-Cons either. Sucks this has to be pointed out time and again as you try to conflate the two - a subtle way of trying to draw ALL Jews into complicit in your tangled schemes.

Do you honestly believe that saying such things makes you look less like the neo-Nazi you are?

Oh, I know, I'm sure you've only got something against Zionists, not Jews.

That's why you say that the Jews are like a woman raped 200 times and they should ask themselves what they do to deserve being pogromed over and over, or that the Talmud sanctions rape of gentiles and thieving from them.

Tatsuma: Sweetie, you've done an amazing job of keeping your update together, and mostly ignoring the baiting.

Please keep up the good work on both the updates and ignoring the baiting.

Witchydiva: Tatsuma: Sweetie, you've done an amazing job of keeping your update together, and mostly ignoring the baiting.

Please keep up the good work on both the updates and ignoring the baiting.

You're right.

I'm tired from moving my stuff in between flats all week(it's still 4 stories high with a broken elevator) and the racists were getting to me.

I'll work for a while then publish the timeline for today and keep on ignoring them

Tatsuma: Oh, I know, I'm sure you've only got something against Zionists, not Jews.

That's why you say that the Jews are like a woman raped 200 times and they should ask themselves what they do to deserve being pogromed over and over, or that the Talmud sanctions rape of gentiles and thieving from them.

And you are an obvious troll, taking any discussion to Godwin level Tats.

You had, for a while, fooled a lot of people into thinking you had changed your ways. And yes, I even removed you from my IG list. Welcome back, you are one hell of a manipulator. Hope your homies and alts will defend you, in fact im sure of it.

Lonestar: Tatsuma: Oh, I know, I'm sure you've only got something against Zionists, not Jews.

That's why you say that the Jews are like a woman raped 200 times and they should ask themselves what they do to deserve being pogromed over and over, or that the Talmud sanctions rape of gentiles and thieving from them.

And you are an obvious troll, taking any discussion to Godwin level Tats.

You had, for a while, fooled a lot of people into thinking you had changed your ways. And yes, I even removed you from my IG list. Welcome back, you are one hell of a manipulator. Hope your homies and alts will defend you, in fact im sure of it.

Ha, Tatsuma called me a troll just this morning. How's it feel Tatsuma? How's it feel?

Tatsuma: I'm tired from moving my stuff in between flats all week(it's still 4 stories high with a broken elevator) and the racists were getting to me.

I'll work for a while then publish the timeline for today and keep on ignoring them

Been there. Just take some time out every so often to be thankful that you are healthy enough to move from flat to flat, that you have the luxury of time to continue the updates, and that free speech is still mostly free. And that you can get a beer if you want one. And that it isn't freaking 107 degrees here in Austin anymore.

Lonestar: Tatsuma: Oh, I know, I'm sure you've only got something against Zionists, not Jews.

That's why you say that the Jews are like a woman raped 200 times and they should ask themselves what they do to deserve being pogromed over and over, or that the Talmud sanctions rape of gentiles and thieving from them.

And you are an obvious troll, taking any discussion to Godwin level Tats.

You had, for a while, fooled a lot of people into thinking you had changed your ways. And yes, I even removed you from my IG list. Welcome back, you are one hell of a manipulator. Hope your homies and alts will defend you, in fact im sure of it.

Nothing I've read has indicated to me that Tats is a troll. He's just responding to someone making some pretty blatant paranoid and racist remarks.

rastjr: KellyX: rastjr: There might be a small percentage that use guns for self defense but that relativelly small number is not worth the large numbers of urban youth dying in the streets because of guns.

1. Criminals would get access to guns regardless
2. If they couldn't use guns, they'd use knives or other weapons
3. Crime among "urban youths" is a result of the environment they're raised in, probably a direct result of the "war on drugs"

They wouldn't get access if it was illegal. Any weapons other than guns would be better. I agree drugs should be legal.

you're legally retarded.

If guns are illegal, do you really think no one is gonna be able to get em?

Sgygus: Killing your best and brightest is not good for the long-term prospects of a country.

/look at the French

For a more extreme and depressing example, take a look at Cambodia, courtesy of the Khmer Rouge :(

Considering this is from the Jerusalem Post, I'd take this with a handful of salt. The Israelis never say anything good about ANY Muslim country, but then whine like spoiled children when their own brutality is exposed.

More likely this is just part of an Israeli campaign to turn world opinion even further against Iran, preparatory to an illegal raid on their nuclear reactors.

Ender's: rastjr: KellyX: rastjr: There might be a small percentage that use guns for self defense but that relativelly small number is not worth the large numbers of urban youth dying in the streets because of guns.

1. Criminals would get access to guns regardless
2. If they couldn't use guns, they'd use knives or other weapons
3. Crime among "urban youths" is a result of the environment they're raised in, probably a direct result of the "war on drugs"

They wouldn't get access if it was illegal. Any weapons other than guns would be better. I agree drugs should be legal.

you're legally retarded.

If guns are illegal, do you really think no one is gonna be able to get em?

A small number of criminals could get them but the government would have many more and could easilty defend the populace. We discussed it in class when I was in college. The professor and most of the class seemed to agree with me.

Ahmadinnerjacket get pwned by fluffernutter. You Tube (new window)

/SA tweeted this

nimblehuman: then whine like spoiled children when their own brutality is exposed.

So do we. So does any country. This isn't a trait specific to Israel.

That said, any news source should be taken with a grain of salt.

warning: graphic Images (new window)

rastjr: We discussed it in class when I was in college. The professor and most of the class seemed to agree with me.

I started out rating you at 10/10, but you are starting to slip down into 7/10 (losing subtle touch).

Hint: make your "arguments" less about you, more about what you can prove. Nobody gives a shiat about your opinion other than your mother. Not even your blow-up-doll.

rastjr:
A small number of criminals could get them but the government would have many more and could easilty defend the populace. We discussed it in class when I was in college. The professor and most of the class seemed to agree with me.


You were schooled with idiots. The police have a duty to protect society. They have no duty to protect individuals. There is caselaw on this.

I0Error: Ahmadinnerjacket get pwned by fluffernutter. You Tube (new window)

/SA tweeted this

/snicker

America's choice
Mr Obama must now decide whether to let all this affect his efforts to engage Iran. His aim is to persuade the country to forgo its contentious nuclear plan-or at least to modify it and throw it open to scrutiny. Plainly, Israel's hawkish prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, senses a chance to help kibosh an American diplomatic initiative that discomfited him from the start.

Is the dream already over?
Jun 25th 2009 | TEHRAN
From The Economist print edition (new window)


No coincidence on the source of this story, or it's unquestioning believers (and propagators) in these forums. This doesn't mean it's not true, but it needs to be made very clear that there is a concerted campaign whose aim is to propagandize the American public and further demonize the Iranian regime in their eyes, setting the stage for a walkthrough in selling a bombing campaign or invasion to us, again.

I fully expect a front page NYT piece by Judith Miller any day now.

rastjr: Ender's: rastjr: KellyX: rastjr: There might be a small percentage that use guns for self defense but that relativelly small number is not worth the large numbers of urban youth dying in the streets because of guns.

1. Criminals would get access to guns regardless
2. If they couldn't use guns, they'd use knives or other weapons
3. Crime among "urban youths" is a result of the environment they're raised in, probably a direct result of the "war on drugs"

They wouldn't get access if it was illegal. Any weapons other than guns would be better. I agree drugs should be legal.

you're legally retarded.

If guns are illegal, do you really think no one is gonna be able to get em?

A small number of criminals could get them but the government would have many more and could easilty defend the populace. We discussed it in class when I was in college. The professor and most of the class seemed to agree with me.

Eh... I really don't like the idea of this sort of government protection. It would be far too easy, and far too tempting, for a government with this kind of arrangement to use that power to suppress political dissidence. I'd rather be armed myself.

Also, I'd imagine that the "small number of criminals" would still be the number who actually plan to use the guns in the first place. Sure, you'd take the guns out of the hands of the druggies and other such deadbeats, but what about organized crime and gangs? They'd still be able to get guns, no sweat. I'd imagine (though I don't have any sources at the moment) that most gun-related murders lie with them.

so what the hell can we do to stop it?

write our congressmen?

write the daily show?

hold a public rally in support of the protesters?

I'm tired of feeling helpless

havaniceday: so what the hell can we do to stop it?

I'm tired of feeling helpless

http://iran.whyweprotest.net/help-iran-online/ (

havaniceday: so what the hell can we do to stop it?

write our congressmen?

write the daily show?

hold a public rally in support of the protesters?

I'm tired of feeling helpless

Yes

Just an observation to post. I follow the official Twitter accounts of the North Korean News Agency, Kin Il Jong, and and anonymous citizen (read government agency putting out propaganda) and they day the all this stuff started in Iran they quit Twittering and lst Sat they started back up. Just thought that was interesting.

/End threadjack