Subby, if they wanted Sonia Sotomayor on the Supreme Court- or, more accurately, if they aren't calling her a racist, socialist, communist, etc, and working feverishly to scream that as loudly as they can to passerby, they're not "Real Americans™".

Get with it, man.

Frankly, who cares what the public thinks about this kind of stuff? They don't really have any legal expertise. I'm much more interested in the types of things the people think the court should do, and then have the Representatives carry out the details.

Don't have any empathy? I know how you feel.

12349876: Don't have any empathy? I know how you feel.

Don't have any legs? Don't come crawling to me.

/sorry, for some reason your post reminded me of that

what Americans want is irrelevant. what the 1% who Own America wants is all that matters.

Who cares. What Rush Limbaugh says is all that matters.

FTA: But most Americans do not think her life experiences influence the way she decides cases: Fifty-nine percent said the fact that she is a women does not factor in, and 52 percent said the same about her racial and ethnic background.

OK, this is probably the height of statistical bullshiat. How the f*ck does anyone know what's going on in Sotomayor's head?

12. Do you think the fact that Sotomayor is a woman plays a role in the way she decides cases as a judge, or not? (IF YES) Do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing?

Gee, let me dust off my time-traveling brain-scanning machine and I'll get back to you ...

I hate shiat like this.

Call 1,001 people who had nothing better to do than answer stupid questions, then publish the results claiming that it's a good representation of 350 million American opinions.

What do American opinions count for anyway? This is up to the 19 members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, not public vote -- this isn't a democracy you morans.

Hey she's a Mexican with a vajayjay - the don't come any more qualified than that. Just ask her!

so a joint poll done by 2 of the most liberal obama supporting media sources in the country come up with results that support their beliefs? color me shocked

SynthLord: Call 1,001 people who had nothing better to do than answer stupid questions, then publish the results claiming that it's a good representation of 350 million American opinions.

And yet, whenever there is a chance to verify such polls (in an election, for example) they turn out to be remarkably accurate. It's almost as if the people conducting them actually know what they are doing...

SynthLord: What do American opinions count for anyway? This is up to the 19 members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, not public vote -- this isn't a democracy you morans.

Well, it's actually ultimately up to the whole senate. And this is a representative democracy, which is, in fact, a form of democracy.

Based on her case history I personally suspect that Sotomayor is going to be less liberal than most people on either side expect. She may well turn out to be sort of a liberal O'Connor, leaning on the moderate fence from the left side instead of the right.

The ironic thing is, she may well be to the right of Souter and thus will move the court to the right. However, the conservative base is so blinded by their Obama Derangement Syndrome that they will oppose anything Obama does.

did you not rtfa, subby? in it it clearly states that only 30% of real americans approve of her.

cchris_39: Hey she's a Mexican with a vajayjay - the don't come any more qualified than that. Just ask her!

How do you know when someone's a racist little fark?

When they confuse any Puerto Rican with a halfway Hispanic name with a Mexican.

captainktainer: cchris_39: Hey she's a Mexican with a vajayjay - the don't come any more qualified than that. Just ask her!

How do you know when someone's a racist little fark?

When they confuse any Puerto Rican with a halfway Hispanic name with a Mexican.

I think racist is too nice. That assumes intent. I think it's more ignorance.

/forgot she had Puerto Rican descent too. The more you know!

ShutterGeek: And yet, whenever there is a chance to verify such polls (in an election, for example) they turn out to be remarkably accurate. It's almost as if the people conducting them actually know what they are doing...

It's not the math: it's the stupid questions.

I'm not a mind-reader, so how the f*ck should I know if Sotomayor thinks to herself "ABC would seem the correct answer, but I'm a woman, so I'm saying XYZ."

ShutterGeek: Well, it's actually ultimately up to the whole senate. And this is a representative democracy, which is, in fact, a form of democracy.

American democracy is limited to the election of representatives and the occasional local referendum. You and I only get to decide a cosmically tiny percentage of what happens in government.

I'm fine with that, by the way -- it's not that we're a Constitutional Republic that bugs me, it's that everyone has forgotten the "Constitutional" part.

And what's more, how does anyone answer the question -- "Do you think the fact that Sotomayor is a woman plays a role in the way she decides cases as a judge" -- without being sexist?

"Do you think you should beat old women senseless with wooden objects, or are metal ones okay as well?"

SynthLord: it's that everyone has forgotten the "Constitutional" part

Please, go on.

Strike that, suffering from semantic dissonance

//needs moar coffee

Just where does the money come from for her group, "La Raza"?

Look down past the article where it says;

"The following is a list of taxpayer expenditures paid Hispanic front organizations for the one world order open borders elite, on top of money provided by globalist corporations intent on destroying nation states and replacing them with one world order:" (pops)

StokeyBob: Just where does the money come from for her group, "La Raza"?

Please harp on this for awhile. It will convince people to vote for the GOP, and in no way will alienate moderates and Hispanics.

Go for it.

I too would like to more about her associations with foreign-sounding groups and individuals. Please tell us about her terrorist ties, GOP.

"62% of Real Americans™ want Sonia Sotomayor..."

"Majority rules" only counts for conservatives. See Fox News for details.

I don't think I need to harp any further.

The facts speak for themselves.

StokeyBob: I don't think I need to harp any further.

The facts speak for themselves.

I'm stupid. Please explain them to me slowly.

StokeyBob: Just where does the money come from for her group, "La Raza"?

Look down past the article where it says;

"The following is a list of taxpayer expenditures paid Hispanic front organizations for the one world order open borders elite, on top of money provided by globalist corporations intent on destroying nation states and replacing them with one world order:" (pops)

"Article" title: Don't use my tax money to buy America's hangin' rope. U.S. bloody Civil War is nearer today.

You know how I know you're a loon?

SynthLord: I'm not a mind-reader, so how the f*ck should I know if Sotomayor thinks to herself "ABC would seem the correct answer, but I'm a woman, so I'm saying XYZ."

So your complaint is that the poll doesn't do something that it doesn't claim to do?!?

The poll isn't about how Sotomayor thinks, it's about what Americans believe about her. Complaining that it doesn't get inside her head completely misses the point. It's supposed to get inside *our* collective head with respect to our attitudes about her nomination.

Mostly what the poll indicates is that the conservative FUD about her isn't working with the majority of Americans. I think that is accurate. I live in conservative Mississippi and it isn't even working all that well here.

Partisan: I'm stupid. Please explain them to me slowly.

W h a t - d o e s - t h e - y e l l o w - l i g h t - m e a n.

S l o w - D o w n !

One of her clubs is "La Raza". Click the link above if you want to see that it is a front group of our own government.

There slogan translated is said to be, "All for the race, nothing for the rest."

Partisan: StokeyBob: I don't think I need to harp any further.

The facts speak for themselves.

I'm stupid. Please explain them to me slowly.

I'd like to second the request for you to painstakingly renumerate the harping process and tell us allllllllllllll about it.

Fact, She is qualified.
Fact, People are tired of Politicizing the Judiciary
Fact, She has made some controversial comments.
Fact, Most americans only care about the Presidential Beauty Contest.

I don't hear any pop so I suppose I haven't pulled anyones head out of anywhere.

StokeyBob: I don't hear any pop so I suppose I haven't pulled anyones head out of anywhere.

I think you should tell us more about the nefarious racist organization called "La Raza", which smacks of sinister-ness and also Mexicans.

StokeyBob: There slogan translated is said to be, "All for the race, nothing for the rest."

Your Spanish is worse than your English.

StokeyBob: One of her clubs is "La Raza".

How many clubs does she own? And I don't see what she has to do with "La Raza" by Kid Frost. Does she have a writing credit or something?

StokeyBob: I don't hear any pop so I suppose I haven't pulled anyones head out of anywhere.

I think you're going to have a hard time hearing anything, with your head stuck so far up there....

StokeyBob: W h a t - d o e s - t h e - y e l l o w - l i g h t - m e a n.

S l o w - D o w n !

One of her clubs is "La Raza". Click the link above if you want to see that it is a front group of our own government.

There slogan translated is said to be, "All for the race, nothing for the rest."

Yeah, that's entirely made up, but whatever. It's not like the Raza Council is MeCHA, and it's not like MeCHA ever had a slogan about all for the race, but keep the lie alive, bro.

Seabon: The ironic thing is, she may well be to the right of Souter and thus will move the court to the right. However, the conservative base is so blinded by their Obama Derangement Syndrome that they will oppose anything Obama does.

Because she's probably to the right of the person she's replacing, her bigotry should not be questioned?

captainktainer: How do you know when someone's a racist little fark?

When they confuse any Puerto Rican with a halfway Hispanic name with a Mexican.

Or, he could have just called her a dirty spic and covered all his bases.

678583: captainktainer: How do you know when someone's a racist little fark?

When they confuse any Puerto Rican with a halfway Hispanic name with a Mexican.

Or, he could have just called her a dirty spic and covered all his bases.

We also would have accepted 'wetback'.

Dr. Mojo PhD: StokeyBob: W h a t - d o e s - t h e - y e l l o w - l i g h t - m e a n.

S l o w - D o w n !

One of her clubs is "La Raza". Click the link above if you want to see that it is a front group of our own government.

There slogan translated is said to be, "All for the race, nothing for the rest."

Yeah, that's entirely made up, but whatever. It's not like the Raza Council is MeCHA, and it's not like MeCHA ever had a slogan about all for the race, but keep the lie alive, bro.

I lost the thread when the conversation moved to giant robots.

Dr. Mojo PhD: Yeah, that's entirely made up, but whatever. It's not like the Raza Council is MeCHA, and it's not like MeCHA ever had a slogan about all for the race, but keep the lie alive, bro.

It took some work. Did you notice the, "is said" part?

Desterion: so a joint poll done by 2 of the most liberal obama supporting media sources in the country come up with results that support their beliefs? color me shocked

You know how farking stupid that complaint is? Do you know anything about their methodology? Do you know who ran the poll? Do you think people are regularly in the habit of simply lying, and that polling companies are all on the take?

This is how people manage to keep their heads in the sand. Buddy, you're only hurting yourself by living in a walled garden instead of an open one.

I'm starting to take the attitude that this crap is inevitable, and I really don't care anymore. I live in the middle of nowhere. There are few resources here of interest, save some crappy timber.


Go and create your unsustainable demographics based-utopia. Throw the Constitution out the window in favor of "ought to be a law" policies. I'll be here, off the radar, eating venison and burning wood to stay warm.

You know how farking stupid that complaint is? Do you know anything about their methodology? Do you know who ran the poll? Do you think people are regularly in the habit of simply lying, and that polling companies are all on the take?

This is how people manage to keep their heads in the sand. Buddy, you're only hurting yourself by living in a walled garden instead of an open one.

I didn't see him putting up any walls as to where others are allowed to wander.

MrGumboPants: You know how farking stupid that complaint is? Do you know anything about their methodology? Do you know who ran the poll? Do you think people are regularly in the habit of simply lying, and that polling companies are all on the take?

This is how people manage to keep their heads in the sand. Buddy, you're only hurting yourself by living in a walled garden instead of an open one.

Not to play devil's advocate here or anything, but there's a big difference in polling California or NYC, and the rest of the country. Also, a lot of people will simply state that they have no problem with a "Wise Latina woman" making statements that could possibly be construed as racist. Simply out of fear of being labeled a racist themselves. This is the unfortunate truth.

I was hoping you would get it that I was referring to, or making a point of, the walls you were putting up in your post.

But whatever.

Personally, I wouldn't pick any Supreme Court Justice from anywhere in the justice department.

I've been watching them for decades and would prefer someone honest.

Sotomayor belongs to the National Council of La Raza.

Stokey Bob is referring to a totally different group, with a totally different agenda.

This non-story was debunked months ago, when Tom Tancredo called her a member of the hispanic KKK.

StokeyBob: It took some work. Did you notice the, "is said" part?

Yes. The "is said" part, you might notice, is the part I referred to as "the lie". Because when something "is said" that is not true, it is a lie.

StokeyBob: Personally, I wouldn't pick any Supreme Court Justice from anywhere in the justice department.

Has Sotomayor worked in the Justice Department? I thought she was a (county) prosecutor, private lawyer and then judge.